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Message: 9750 Posted: Mon Jan 31 22:03:24 2000 By: msmith
Subject: Re: soboba concert

nanse, i'm not sure if your post(#9739) is in response to my post (#9732). i do remember seeing gerry receiving a bouquet of flowers after the concert, but i didn't see from whom. do you know the other people ..the "b's"... who sat by you in the front row? i thought that it was kind of a low class venue for america to be playing in, didn't you?

Message: 9749 Posted: Mon Jan 31 21:28:51 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: American song in commercials.

Robyn: Actually, early on in the process, I wanted to use Gerry Beckley's "Playing God." It would have been the perfect song for the commercial. I should say, if any song would have worked, that song would have been the perfect song. But we didn't even get to the stage of making preliminary phone calls about securing rights because, as much as I wanted it to, the commercial really didn't need a song in it.

I know a lot of people on this chat folder don't believe in using rock songs in commercials. And I only think it works if it's not gratuitous. Too often it covers up the fact that there's really no idea. But I will keep plugging away and try to find some way to fit an America song in somewhere along the way.

By the way, if you could send me the article from the LA paper about the Super Bowl commercials, I'd really appreciate it. E-mail me and I'll give you my address.



Message: 9748 Posted: Mon Jan 31 19:07:24 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: America

Kevin your commercial got good reviews out here. The local daily rag listed it in the plus column for the commercial that ran. ( Personally, If I see that stupid sock puppet from petsmart one more time.....)oh well, the job of advertising is to either by entertainment or annoyance, get you to remember the product. Good job Kevin BTW you couldn't have slipped an America tune in there, could you? (roflmho)

Message: 9747 Posted: Mon Jan 31 18:02:58 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: America

I guess I thought it seemed a little self-serving to say something beforehand. Besides, the commercial didn't run everywhere. Since it cost a rediculous two-million dollars on network TV, it didn't run nationally. It probably ran in about half the country, in pretty much every big city but New York (too expensive). And since it wasn't a national buy, it ran at different times in different cities. Just wondered if anybody out there saw it.


Message: 9746 Posted: Mon Jan 31 17:09:22 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Kevin, Your Commercial and "Flyin' Me Back To Memphis"

Kevin, wish you would have told us about your commercial beforehand as Robyn said. I would have looked for it. I didn't actively watch the game. Darn it!

Talking about "Till The Sun Comes Up Again" and "Now Sue" being, as Robyn said, about writing a different song. I thought I'd try my hand at writing a different song, too. All the lyrics are from America's songs. Here goes:

"Flyin' Me Back To Memphis"

Daisy I think we must sell the farm
You know I don't want to cause alarm

I got too many problems
They just don't understand
Get behind me Satan
Quit ravishin' my land

Now Daisy is gone
I guess I'll remain
But these tears that I have
I just can't contain

Eyes, holdin' back the tears
That they've held for years
Here, within the time we spent
Wonderin' what we meant
By livin' together all those years

I drove through the valley on my way to the sea
When I'm low, I feel you're near to me
I call you up, hear your voice on the phone
I wonder if you'll ever make it, make it back home

Flyin' me back to Memphis
Gotta find my Daisy Jane
We fell through a sand castle window
I can't avoid the pain

Flyin' me back to Memphis
Gotta find my Daisy Jane
We fell through a sand castle window
I can't avoid the pain

(I know...don't quit my day job!!!)

Message: 9745 Posted: Mon Jan 31 07:26:57 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Now Sue/ Kevins commercial

Well< till the sun comes up again, DOES start " think I'll write a different song"

Kevin, Why didn't you say something earlier? so bored with this year's crop of commercials I gave up at half time!!!!

Message: 9744 Posted: Sun Jan 30 23:54:27 2000 By: GerryK
Subject: concerts .... best

Gotta admit ... all 17 shows were great, but if I had to pick 2 that stand out ... Irvine Meadows '83 w/ Carl Wilson and Piedmont Park in Atlanta '90. Great to see the recent photos of Gerry's son on stage, I got to see an early performance as he joined the guys and played tamborine during the encore in Atlanta.

Message: 9743 Posted: Sun Jan 30 22:51:02 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Now Sue.

Alan, the weird thing is, the lyrics to Now Sue sort of make sense.


Anyone catch the Tabasco commercial I wrote on the Super Bowl?

Message: 9742 Posted: Sun Jan 30 18:34:43 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Now Sue / Till The Sun Comes Up Again

Supposedly, Gerry got the inspiration for Now Sue from listening to Till the Sun Comes Up Again backwards. I disagree. Now Sue is not INSPIRED by Till the Sun Comes Up Again played backwards - it IS Till the Sun Comes Up Again played backwards!

I just got the domestic release of VGG and after listening to the bonus track it seems that all Gerry did was smooth out the vocals. It's really freaky, but I can actually HEAR at least 90% of the lyrics to Now Sue in TTSCUA played backwards and the instrumentation is virtually identical. Gerry gets an "A" for originality. I would love to hear the whole story behind that. I'm sure he must have stumbled on it accidentally. After all, how many artists do you suppose sit around and say "Gee, I wonder what such and such a song would sound like played backwards", much less create a new song from it.

Message: 9741 Posted: Sun Jan 30 18:16:34 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Concerts

Up until 2 years ago, I had only seen America once back in 1978 right after Dan had left the band. They were great, but I wished I could have heard them play some of Dan's songs. In the last 2 years, I have seen them 4 times: Mohegan Sun Casino in CT, Barnstable County Fair (on the Cape in MA) and Topsfield Fair in MA (2 shows). Topsfield is where I finally got to meet them and get autographs. Great guys! My current project is trying to get them to come to Maine again (mostly so I won't have to drive 3 - 5 hours to see them).
I'm in the process of contacting all of the fairs in the state and encourage them to invite them.

Message: 9740 Posted: Sun Jan 30 13:36:54 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Triv Answer To: The America and L. Morgan Connection

Reading the number of times fans have attended an America concert is fasinating. I'm amazed!

No takers on my America and Lorrie Morgan connection, I see. Here is the answer:

Lorrie Morgan (country music singer) sang the lyrics, "There's a light shining beyond the Southern Cross" from HOPE on the Martell Foundation fundraiser.

I don't know if you all have discussed this before. Since I joined the chat folder in late 1998, this might have been talked about before I joined in. However, I do know that it hasn't been discussed since my joining. Anyway, Lorrie Morgan also sang one of the 13 songs on the 1998 benefit album (released around April 28, 1998) that featured an America song. Here is the list of songs and what a critic said about the project:

"MADD: Honor Them All" is a benefit album for "Mothers Against Drunk Driving". The record concentrates on new age, soft rock and adult contemporary artists. Most of the songs are previously released, although there are a handful of new cuts thrown into the mix. For some listeners, the music may be a bit too homogenous, but there are several good songs here, and there's no denying that the whole project is for a good cause". -- Stephen Thomas Erlewine, "All Music Guide"

1. Let The River Run (Carly Simon)
2. Nothing's So Far Away (As Yesterday) (America)
3. If You Came Back From Heaven (Lorrie Morgan)
4. Change The World (Gordon Kennedy)
5. Honor Them All (Janis Ian)
6. Dream (Tuck and Patti)
7. Picture This (Jim Brickman)
8. Black Diamond (Rippingtons)
9. Blue Modal Morning Alive (Carole King)
10. This Isn't Love (Brian Wilson)
11. Nothing's Too Good (For A Friend) (Doyle Dykes)
12. In The Morning Light (Yanni)
13. Remember Me This Way (Liz Story)

Message: 9739 Posted: Sun Jan 30 13:16:50 2000 By: Nanse
Subject: Re: soboba concert

Glad that you went to the concert last Saturday night. Gerry and Dewey seemed to have a great time there even though they left right after the concert. I was in the front row next to the couple that Gerry was talking about. They are big fans but Gerry was stretching it when he said they had seen them 6o something times. If you remember, I was the one that gave Gerry the bouquet of flowers after they played Sister Golden Hair. Welcome back to America!!!!

Message: 9738 Posted: Sun Jan 30 12:30:21 2000 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Concerts

I have seen America 4 times the first being in 77 or 78 in Rapid City South Dakota (I wish someone out there would help me find out which year since I didn't keep a ticket stub), the second time in 83 or 84 in Peoria Ill. touring for the View from the Ground Album (the same playlist as the King Biscuit album, Inspector Mills was a highlight,) the third time was in 91 in Peoria (got to experience Hells on Fire and my wife got a Gerry Beckley guitar pick, was in the first row also), and the last time was in 1999 in Davenport Ia.( really got into the Beatle cover Things We Said Today and Wheels are Turning).. The next time I see them it would be great to hear just a couple of obscure gems such as Amber Cascades Sargeant Darkness. Oh and I almost forgot about a huge highlight, I got my picture taken with Dewey at the show in 99 and the 8 by 10 is hanging in the den. Thanks for listening until next time. DANC.

Message: 9737 Posted: Sun Jan 30 01:16:24 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Palmdale Show

I believe some sort of Charity is involved Last year a donation of non perishable food items was requested. I will keep an eye out for info and post it here. The concert lsited on their web site is last years! oh well, not everyone has a Steve to keep things current!

Message: 9736 Posted: Sun Jan 30 01:02:15 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: robyn message 9690

I assume he does. Human Nature Studios is in Sherman Oaks, not far from where I live.

Message: 9735 Posted: Sun Jan 30 00:25:44 2000 By: msmith
Subject: robyn message 9690

i'm sure you already know, but gerry lives in the san fernando valley, doesn't he?

Message: 9734 Posted: Sun Jan 30 00:18:52 2000 By: msmith
Subject: Re: 07/22/00 concert

americasl, thank you kindly for your prompt response.

Message: 9733 Posted: Sun Jan 30 00:02:47 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: 07/22/00 concert

According to message #9685 the concert is free so you don't have to buy tickets. Here's what Robyn had to say about the concert. "It's a classic car rally during the day, followed by an 8 p.m. show. Best of all, it's FREE! I was advised to 'get there early' as the turnout is mammoth." I hope that helps. --Steve

Message: 9732 Posted: Sat Jan 29 23:36:05 2000 By: msmith
Subject: 07/22/00 concert

i have recently rediscovered my favorite group that i had "lost" since the late 70's. by pure coincidence i heard while listening to a local oldies station that america was in concert nearby. went to the concert on 01/22/00 near hemet, ca. although i loved this group in the seventies, and have their first six lp's, i had sort of forgotten about them. since i saw them in concert all i've been doing is looking for them on the web and listening to their music. i'm listening to human nature right now. i really like it--"moving train", "wednesday morning", and "pages" are my favorites. at the concert i saw there was someone in the front row that gerry said had seen them (america) in concert 67 times. their last name started with a "b". can anyone tell me who to contact to get tickets to the 07/22/00 concert in palmdale, ca? your help would be most appreciated. thx. msmith

Message: 9731 Posted: Sat Jan 29 23:10:33 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: More Crazy Horse Photos

I have posted a second group of photos from the Crazy Horse concert. Thanks so much to ShariL in San Diego for making them available.

Message: 9730 Posted: Sat Jan 29 22:58:14 2000 By: Margaret
Subject: Concerts

We have seen them 15 times since they first came to Australia in 1976. Here's hoping for more soon.

Message: 9729 Posted: Sat Jan 29 22:53:26 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: stuff for sale

Was searching for info on the Eagles, and several links pointed to a Legends Memorabilia page. So I went to see if OUR legends were there, and there are two posters ($250.00 and $125.00) and a reel to reel tape of the first album ($20.00) for sale there. At least they're getting the respect they deserve!
ShariL <><

Message: 9728 Posted: Sat Jan 29 22:31:03 2000 By: Nanse
Subject: Re: concerts

I guess because I grew up in LA and now live very close, I have had many opportunities to see them in concert. I actually was at the live concert in 1978 at the Greek Theatre. That was my favorite venue to hear them at. They were without Dan by then and I sometimes kid my son and tell him that you can hear me screaming in the background. Up until a few years ago, he believed me. Who knows.
It's fun to hear from others about their concert experiences. Keep it going!!!! Nanse

Message: 9727 Posted: Sat Jan 29 21:47:53 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: concerts

I haven't been to that many concerts but here they are listed. Up until 1994 all of my concerts were from a cassette tape.

1. June 10, 1994, Park Mountain (near Park City, Utah)
2. August 11, 1995, Kimball Junction (near Park City, Utah)
3. November 1995, Park City, Utah
4. May 9, 1997, Las Vegas, Nevada
5. May 10, 1997, St. George, Utah
6. April 24, 1998, Salt Lake City, Utah
7. June 6, 1998, Sparks (Reno), Nevada
8. July 24, 1999, Sparks, Nevada
9. September 4, 1999, Orem, Utah

Message: 9726 Posted: Sat Jan 29 21:07:22 2000 By: GerryK
Subject: concerts

My first show was at the Greek in 1981. Nicolette Larson opened .... great night. I've seen the guys 17 times since, the last being a 1997 show in Huntsville. I'm looking forward to a couple of shows next month in Robinsville.

Message: 9725 Posted: Sat Jan 29 18:05:24 2000 By: Erin
Subject: Re: OLOOLOLO

I agree, Jim. What a great song.

Erin :o)

Message: 9724 Posted: Sat Jan 29 17:36:35 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: This And That (Mainly That)

23 times in one place in 2-3 years, Erin? Man, I live in the wrong place. I've been a die-hard fan since the early 70s but didn't get a chance to see them until 85 when my wife and I were on our honeymoon down the Oregon coast. Have seen them a grand total of only 6 times now. Each one great, but the one where there played with the Vancouver Symphony was amazing.

Message: 9723 Posted: Sat Jan 29 17:26:16 2000 By: Erin
Subject: Re: This And That (Mainly That)

Since I became a fan in early 1997, I've seen them 23 times (I think...maybe only 22). All at the Nugget in Sparks, except for one concert at Lawlor Events Center in Reno.

Erin :o)

Message: 9722 Posted: Sat Jan 29 17:11:31 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: My Trivia Question

Here's my trivia question: What two connections are there between America and country music singer Lorrie Morgan? The answer will be given tomorrow.

Message: 9721 Posted: Sat Jan 29 16:59:23 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: A

I remember back in the 80s going to the record store and thumbing through their index and finding the LP, "Lonely Guy". I ordered it since the index had a reference to America. I thought I was ordering a new America LP. When it came in, I thought the index was totally wrong and that it didn't have anything to do with America. Seeing Steve Martin on the cover and not Dewey and Gerry was very, very disappointing as you can probably imagine. Had I examined the album, I would have bought it for America's one song. So Kevin, my non-purchase caused me to miss your trivia question. Good thing it wasn't for big money on "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire"!!!

Message: 9720 Posted: Sat Jan 29 15:33:41 2000 By: jimnak

a classic.

Message: 9719 Posted: Sat Jan 29 15:12:43 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: MOre on the GErman website.

This is pretty cool stuff. Steve's link takes you to "funcity", where you receive, in German fashion , a heartfelt welcome and a wish for much fun, in their virtual Internet City. The Radio Station link is under construction. They are "renovating for you ( they use the formal version, so they really think you are special here). They advise you to come back in the future for more news and information and actual themes ( whatever that means-- not sure on the translation her, my German is pretty rusty, I haven't actively spoken it in over 20 years)They wish you lots of fun in funcity.

I will go back in from time to time to see if they have updated it.

Message: 9718 Posted: Sat Jan 29 13:01:17 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Re: California Dreamin' Soundtrack

Karen, I've got the "California Dreaming" soundtrack if you have any other questions about it...


P.S. I just received my "Your Move" HDCD from Magic Records the other day. If you haven't yet listened to one of those CDs, you should!!

Message: 9717 Posted: Sat Jan 29 11:41:04 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: A.

No, Johnny, it's the Soundtrack album to the movie, The Lonely Guy. America's song is "Love Comes Without Warning" written by John Bettis and Jerry Goldsmith, produced by Matt McCauley. The title track, "The Lonely Guy," is formed by Max Carl, was written by Glenn Frey and Jack Tempchin and produced by Glen Frey and Allen Blazek. The album came out in 1980.


Message: 9716 Posted: Sat Jan 29 11:29:48 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Kevin's Trivia Question

Kevin, here is my guess to your trivia question. Are the album's initials "MHTA"?

Message: 9715 Posted: Sat Jan 29 11:13:08 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: This And That (Mainly That)

Kevin, your trivia question is a good one! It has me stumped. I look forward to hearing the answer. I have a trivia question also but I'll wait to hear your answer first.

Nanse, your friend, Edie, can always claim that Dewey literally caused her to almost faint (LOL). I almost did too but it was caused by my own weak knees.

I'm amazed at how many times some of us fans have seen The Guys in concert. Having been a fan since 1972, I have seen them only 3 times (boo-hoo). Can any other hard-core fan claim the title to having seen them less? How about letting us all know just how many times each of us have seen America in concert? I look forward to hearing from everyone.

Everytime I watch figure skating on tv, I'm eager to hear what song the skater has selected to skate to. I always think of America and that maybe one day, one of their songs will be featured. That would be a tremendous kick.

With the recent popularity of Latin-influenced music, it makes me wonder what song or songs Dewey and Gerry could write. I think I heard a Latin-influenced song by Cher on last night's figure skating show. It was a very uplifting and fast beat song.

Message: 9714 Posted: Sat Jan 29 01:04:05 2000 By: Margaret
Subject: videos

I'm glad that Johnny & Steve answered Howard's video question because I couldn't.
At the recent Star City show, there were large screens on either side of the stage and these were showing either the whole group or close-ups during the whole show.. Gerry was amused when he caught sight of his image while he was singing. When asked what I'd like for my imminent birthday, I suggested my husband contact Star City to see if he could buy a copy. He was told they just showed it but didn't record it . What a lost opportunity.
If other venues do similar filming, how difficult would it be to record and market videos?

Message: 9713 Posted: Fri Jan 28 21:50:12 2000 By: Nanse
Subject: most memorable

I have seen them in concert probably almost 40 times. There have been so many memorable times but I think one of the most memorable moments was when my friend Edie and I were going to see them at the Universal Ampitheatre in LA. We were going into the bathrooms in a Victoria Station restaurant, when the door swung open and hit Edie in the face almost knocking her out. When she was able to look up and see what hit her, the person coming through the door was none other than Dewey Bunnell. He was so apologetic but I was more concerned that Edie was OK. When I finally looked up and saw who it was, I began to freak out and run after him yelling, " it's Dewey......." He was so kind and when we finally caught up to him it was outside while he was getting into his limo. He blew us a kiss and he rode off. This was back in 1979. How fun!!! Lots more moments but this one was hilarious. More later...

Message: 9712 Posted: Fri Jan 28 19:09:16 2000 By: S. Mc
Subject: Re: Comments from Nanse

Finally! It is good to hear from you. I wonder how many times you have seen them in concert...let me guess...30? Please report to us your most memorable AMERICA experience. Last year at Pechanga I was able to have a group picture with Gerry and Dewey and they autographed two of my CDs. What a blast it was. Oh yes, and I do remember Gerry telling Nanse during the concert that he didn't need to worry about forgetting and words to any songs because all he had to do was look at her because she knows every word to every song!!!!!!!

Message: 9711 Posted: Fri Jan 28 19:05:40 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: RSH

I speak a little German, so i went to the site, clicked on RSH and it indicates taht the site is bing renovated. I will look at the whole site over the next few days- Wortbuch(dictionary) in hand and let you know, unless someone who really is conversant wants to do it!

Message: 9710 Posted: Fri Jan 28 18:41:04 2000 By: Nanse
Subject: Re: Comments from Nanse

I want to try and see if I can at least post this on the chat folder because my tries before haven't worked but hopefully this will. I have been a fan since 1975 and have seen the group in concert since 1976. I do miss the oldies but what I meant was that I wish they would play old accoustic sounds from the early 70's. Songs like Rainbow Song and Green Monkey in concert were incredible. Sometimes these songs would last up to 15 minutes because they were so into them. I do have a dream list of songs that I would love to hear them play. I will post these later. Maybe some of you have favorites that you would like to hear in concert, different than those that they are playing now. Thanks to all and thanks to Steve for helping me set up. Shari Mc.,talk to you soon! nanse

Message: 9709 Posted: Fri Jan 28 18:22:33 2000 By: Spurs
Subject: Oxygen.

Hello all,wonderful to hear from Karen.I've been an Oxygen supporter since day one quite simply they have made more effort than most especially when talking of Capitol,American Gramaphone and even Warners in later years, and yet I doubt that Oxygen would have the finacial clout of the two big labels.The problem being is just where do America fit into todays market after all to hear anything new on radio consistantly by many establihed seventies acts is a rarity.Possibly America may seem faceless to many,the group bereft of scandal,drug taking,and smashing up hotel rooms and the like,perhaps producing great music,superb live shows,and wonderful musicianship are just not enough.But with the advent of the computer age maybe a whole new musical world awaits ie downloads,and perhaps some of us may get a glimpse into America's vip lounge.

Message: 9708 Posted: Fri Jan 28 17:46:28 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: America/Eagles Connection trivia

Okay, here's a trivia question that should make even Johnny proud. Last week we were talking about America and the Eagles and how it was strange that America has worked with so many musicians, but never the Eagles.

Can you name the album that America is featured on which includes a song written and produced by Glenn Frey?

Hint: It was released in the 80s.

The first one to guess this correctly gets to play on stage with Dewey and Gerry for one show in 2000.*


*I have absolutely no legal authority whatsoever to make such an offer, so please ignore it.

Message: 9707 Posted: Fri Jan 28 17:37:30 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: California Dreaming soundtrack


I've sent you pretty much all the info you could use from the back of the record jacket and the label. I'm sending it from a computer I don't normally send e-mails out on, so if you didn't get it, please let me know on this chat folder, because I'm too stupid to figure out how to get my e-mail from this computer.

Hope it helps.


Message: 9706 Posted: Fri Jan 28 15:34:09 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Central Park Laser Disc/California Dreamin' Soundtrack

Karen, it's good to hear from you. Here are a couple of links that might help out. If they don't help, I have a copy of the original release at home and I can look up whatever you need when I get there tonight. I know it was digitally remastered and rereleased last year but I never got that version.

Live In Central Park track list, etc.
Live In Central Park photos (close up of front and back album cover)


Message: 9705 Posted: Fri Jan 28 15:23:10 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Central Park Laser Disc/California Dreamin' Soundtrack

The soundtrack and America's single of the title track was released in early 1979. America's single peaked at 56 on the Billboard pop charts soon thereafter, becoming America's first single to chart as a duo. It spent a total of 5 weeks on the charts. It was the only song America performed on the soundtrack. The soundtrack lp did not chart to my knowledge and it was never released on CD.

The Live in Central Park Laser Disc was released in 1981 by Pioneer, in think. It is a recording of a 1979 concert, when America was touring in support of the Silent Letter album. I don't have the actual disc, but I think several people who frequent this board do. Hope this helps.

Message: 9704 Posted: Fri Jan 28 14:59:24 2000 By: Karen D
Subject: Central Park Laser Disc/California Dreamin' Soundtrack

Does anyone have either of these items? I'm checking some credit information for an upcoming project and I need to look at these two things.

Actually, was that soundtrack released?

Thanks much.

Karen D.
Oxygen Records

And...hi Howard!

Message: 9703 Posted: Fri Jan 28 13:50:51 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Crazy Horse Photos

Thanks to Tom Sweet and Gordon we have our first set of 2000 concert photos. Tom got to play with the guys during the "Horse With No Name" encore and I'm guessing that Gordon took the photos. There is a link to the photos in the What's New section of the America Fans web site or you can click here to go directly there.

Message: 9702 Posted: Fri Jan 28 13:47:28 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Go Man Go Release

Shari, the full name is Heart Times Coffee Cup Studios and it makes sense to me that they could release Go Man Go since I know that some (or maybe all) of it is being remixed there. Gordon works there as the Technical Services Manager in charge of Studio Operations and he's the one that sent us the preview of the "Van Go Gan" remix.

Message: 9701 Posted: Fri Jan 28 13:41:27 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: RSH Award

At least the Germans know a talented band when they hear one! A very belated congratulations to Our Guys!!

Message: 9700 Posted: Fri Jan 28 13:40:41 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: RSH

I think Johnny is right. RSH stands for Radio Schleswig-Holstein and they play "Top Hits, Classic Hits". They even have a cool web site if any of you want to check it out. It's written in German so good luck reading it. Perhaps someone who reads German can see if it says anything about the RSH awards.

Message: 9699 Posted: Fri Jan 28 10:20:26 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Go Man Go Release

Kevin -
Gerry mentioned possibly the Coffee Cup label (I've forgotten the whole name, but isn't that where Houses in White was recorded?) but he said it's not for sure yet. Things are still being finalized. No mention was made of Oxygen releasing it.

Message: 9698 Posted: Fri Jan 28 10:00:46 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: RSH

Howard, I think RSH is a radio station in Germany. I believe they give out awards to musical performers.

Message: 9697 Posted: Fri Jan 28 09:49:17 2000 By: Howard Lieboff

PLACE IN THE EARLY 1990'S. On German TV????
Margaret from Australia...any idea....anybody???
Thanks, HL

Message: 9696 Posted: Thu Jan 27 15:27:17 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Go Man Go.

If Human Nature Records isn't going to release Go Man Go, who is? Oxygen, maybe?


Message: 9695 Posted: Thu Jan 27 14:29:30 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Great start to the millinium

It looks like the America could be off to a great start in 2000. With Gerry's Go Man Go, Rhino's Box Set, and the possible release of Dan Peek's recording sessions with Gerry & Dewey from the late 70's and early 80's could mean an America Hat Trick in 2000!

Message: 9694 Posted: Thu Jan 27 12:51:07 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: re: Imagining It All.

I remember reading this story in Rolling Stone back in the 80s. American Flyer was actually a pseudonym for America. It seems at the time Gerry, Dewey and Dan were afraid of getting pigeonholed creatively, and they wanted to expand beyond where they felt the America format was limiting them musically. But, of course, their record company wouldn't let them. So they invented this fictitious band and came up with a name that would throw everybody off their tracks, American Flyer.

Wait a minute. I think I got the story wrong. That wasn't America, it was the Beatles. And American Flyer wasn't their fictitous band, it was Klaatu.



Message: 9693 Posted: Thu Jan 27 12:09:11 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Am I Imagining It All?

As I mentioned several days ago, I think there's some very strong similarities between American Flyer's debut album and America's LP, "Hideaway". For instance, I think some of the lyrics of two songs by American Flyer "strangely" resemble those of America's. Remember, both albums were produced by Sir George during the same year, 1976. America's was recorded in February so I'm assuming it was before American Flyer's.

Here are the lyrics from two of America's songs followed by lyrics from American Flyer's. You be the judge. I've capitalized the similar words.

ALONE, sitting here ON MY OWN
There's no place I'd rather be
Or so it seems

Home, miles away from home
And there's no place I'd rather be

American Flyer's:
Woman, why must you LEAVE ME
I don't want to be LONELY no more
CAN'T YOU SEE you take a piece of me

AMBER cascades all over TODAY
Then we WALK on a crooked CATwalk
Only to be delayed

American Flyer's:
KITTY get out your yellow coat
Take a WALK with me
Autumn's AMBER memories are in the air TODAY

So, what do you all think? Are they similar or am I imagining things?

Message: 9692 Posted: Thu Jan 27 11:13:22 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: "Horse" In Pop Culture

There was also an episode on "Friends" last year where Horse was playing prominently in the background as the "friends" were driving through a desert.

Message: 9691 Posted: Thu Jan 27 09:13:55 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: "Horse" In Pop Culture

Also refered to by Kinky Friedman in his most recent mystery ( the name escapes me just now) Kinky tells Ratso " don't ask me, Ive been in the desert on a horse with no legs. " I suppose that copunts to John.

Message: 9690 Posted: Thu Jan 27 09:11:13 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Palmdale Show

No, Erin, it's just north of the beautiful San Fernando Valley, where I live :0D. Sorry.

Message: 9689 Posted: Thu Jan 27 01:20:18 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: "Horse" In Pop Culture

I had to post this. On Ian Samwell's website, Ray Baisden cites the following recent examples of "A Horse With No Name" in pop culture. Does anybody have any other America pop culture references to share?...

A Horse With No Name has become a cultural icon in addition to being a great song. Just to cite a few fairly recent examples, it has been a clue on Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune, the subject of comedy routines by Penn & Teller and Richard Jenni, and it was parodied in Mel Gibson's movie U.S.Air. The lyrics were recited as part of a hilarious sketch on the sitcom Suddenly Susan.

There also was a bit on The Tracy Ullman Show where she played a middle aged former has-been who claims that she hates America . . . not the country - the group . . . because she says she wrote the lyrics to A Horse With No Name . . . and never got paid!!!

And on Politically Incorrect Bill Mahr described the Oscar winning movie, The English Patient, by saying, "It's about a guy walking through the desert . . . on a horse with no name."

Ian's bio can be found at

Message: 9688 Posted: Thu Jan 27 01:08:17 2000 By: S. Mc
Subject: Comments from Nanse

Nanse has spent all evening trying to get a message out to us, but her internet server is not cooperating. I will relay the message she emailed me. She says, "I have been going to concerts since 1976 and it's not that I don't like the old stuff, it's just that I'd like to hear something different like GREEN MONKEY and RAINBOW SONG. My picks for a song list will be relayed to you as soon as I am able to post a message." Thanks Nanse, we'll be waiting. I probably left something out so we best hear directly from you.

Message: 9687 Posted: Thu Jan 27 01:07:07 2000 By: S. Mc
Subject: Comments from Nanse

Nanse has spent all evening trying to get a message out to us, but her internet server is not cooperating. I will relay the message she emailed me. She says, "I have been going to concerts since 1976 and it's not that I don't like the old stuff, it's just that I'd like to hear something different like GREEN MONKEY and RAINBOW SONG. My picks for a song list will be relayed to you as soon as I am able to post a message." Thanks Nanse, we'll be waiting. I probably left something out so we best hear directly from you.

Message: 9686 Posted: Wed Jan 26 23:18:05 2000 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Palmdale Show

Sounds like an awesome place to see a show...where's Palmdale? Northern California, by any chance??
Erin :o)

Message: 9685 Posted: Wed Jan 26 22:09:41 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Palmdale Show

I am enviuos of all of you who saw the shows this week, just couldn't make the trek. HOWWEVER, I called Paldale Rec 'n Parks to ask about the show in July. The woman was a bit surprized and said, we haven't told anyone about America being there yet, I said "well we know" and explained it was posted on the web. Here's the scoop---

it's a classic car rally during the day, followed by an 8 p.m. show. best of all, it's FREE! The woman advised me to "get there early" as the turnout is mamoth.

I am planning on going. Anyone else? Maybe we could all meet somewhere and get a big group. Let me know!

Message: 9684 Posted: Wed Jan 26 20:32:57 2000 By: S. Mc
Subject: Nanse, where are you?

We are all awaiting your comments on recent concerts. Since you have been a fan for 25 years, we'd like to hear your reactions.

Message: 9683 Posted: Wed Jan 26 17:37:22 2000 By: dennis
Subject: box set from rhino

I thought the box set is coming from rhino?Does anyone know the new songs to be released on the box set? Be Well,Dennis,Goldeneaglevideo

Message: 9682 Posted: Wed Jan 26 16:50:50 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: From Rhino To ?

Howard, from Rhino back to Oxygen, I hope!!

Message: 9681 Posted: Wed Jan 26 12:36:19 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: questions for me

No, Johnny, Gerry didn't mention what it would be called and I didn't think to ask. I suspect Steve will probably get that info as soon as it's available. If they're still writing liner notes, it may not be named yet.
I was going to ask Shari M. if she and Nancy are the ones I've met from Temecula, but I see she answered that question. Glad to have you two back on line! I was looking for you Monday night. I couldn't go Friday or Saturday, that's why I did two shows on Monday, to make up for it. (LOL) Friday night when they were in the San Diego area, I had the same meeting conflict in LA that I had when they were here at Humphrey's last August. Just my luck. So I was thrilled both times that they were also playing somewhere close on another day the I COULD attend.
I didn't ask Gerry directly if they read the chat folder, but he did make a comment about my screen name, so that sure indicated to me that he does.
Looking forward to seeing the touring schedule expanded and the chance to see them MANY more times this year. (Still can't get convince the powers that be to bring them to the performing arts venue where I work. Go figure.)
Johnny - also have to say I was thinking of you when they were singing "Wheels".
Let's hope Rhino will get a little more involved in marketing and promotion than we have recently seen. Anyone who knows that system know if there's anything we can do to show our support to Rhino? We need to do something that's helpful, not just be pests.
ShariL <><

Message: 9680 Posted: Wed Jan 26 12:22:36 2000 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Recent So. Calif. Concerts

Thanks for all the great reviews! Sounds like everyone had a great time! Hope to see lots of you in Reno/Sparks this year for the Nugget concerts! (hopefully....)
Erin :o)

Message: 9679 Posted: Wed Jan 26 12:08:32 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Box Set/Oxygen

Don't forget "American Gramaphone"

Message: 9678 Posted: Wed Jan 26 11:33:24 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Box Set/Oxygen

What a crazy world we live in, huh??
Warner Bros to capitol to rhino to Oxygen to Human nature studios
back to Rhino (for box set) to ????
Keep on truckin' America.

Message: 9677 Posted: Wed Jan 26 09:05:18 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: Box Set

Thanx ShariL for the great info, looks like the year 2000 will be a great year for America fans, w/Go Man Go, B/L/W Like a Brother, & the box set.
As for Oxygen leaving, well...... I remember America being "dropped" by Rhino, & here their coming out w/a box set!(w/NEW SONGS! YEAH!)
This is just my opinion, but when I turn on my 'puter & still see this great website still running, to me, it shows the continued support Oxygen has given America, I wouldn't count them out yet!
Can't wait for this stuff to start rolling in!!

Message: 9676 Posted: Wed Jan 26 08:37:28 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: HMMMM ? Box Set with new songs..?

Re: Box set with new songs from Human Nature sessions?.?.?.?
Is this a sure sign of bye bye Oxygen (sung to the tune of
bye bye love, by the everly brothers)every one join in.
Maybe we won't see a new album out by Oxygen. All is quiet........
Just a wild guess, could be wrong, but I'll stop here.

Message: 9675 Posted: Wed Jan 26 07:43:38 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: "Daisey" And A Few Other Things

Thanks ShariL for your review. It's always fun to read about each show. Regarding "Daisey", I think it's someone's way of combining Daisy and Jane together. I remember seeing in the answer section of "FAQ" on, "Hat Trick" spelled "Hatrick". Perhaps it's Dewey or Gerry's creative way of spelling. Cool about Dewey sporting a goatee. I think he looked very distinguished with his beard. I'm sure the goatee makes him appear that way, too.

It's great to hear that there will be some new songs on the upcoming box set. Shari, did Gerry mention what the set will be titled?

Message: 9674 Posted: Wed Jan 26 01:35:51 2000 By: S. Mc
Subject: Crazy Horse

OK...wake me took me a second or two to catch the HORSE connection. Any more Shari's there? From now on I shall be known as S. Mc so we don't overdose on the name. ShariL., we looked for you at the Spectrum and at Saboba. The fans from Temecula were there as always, thanks to Nanse. And yes, the big one is cute as a bug AND talented! Dewey's voice was in top form...and again, awesome work on WHEELS! Go AMERICA Go!

Message: 9673 Posted: Wed Jan 26 00:23:44 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: concerts

Hey, other Shari!
The big one's cute as a bug, too!
ShariL in San Diego <><

Message: 9672 Posted: Tue Jan 25 23:15:24 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Recent So. Calif. Concerts

Were there anymore Shari's at the Crazy Horsey AMERICA doubleheader ?
If so please post your emotions on the Supergroup AMERICA's year 2000 Southern California debut. I think this may be the 1st venue w/the part of an AMERICA song title in it's name. However I don't think that AMERICA's horse was crazy, it just had no name.

Message: 9671 Posted: Tue Jan 25 22:22:31 2000 By: Shari McConnell
Subject: Recent So. Calif. Concerts

One would think that enjoying two America concerts in two days would be ample, however, this fan was just getting warmed-up. The guys sounded great and it's always nice to see Gerry with his family and performing with his sons (the little one is as cute as a bug). Number One Fan, Nanse, and I sat front row/center both nights and tried not to be too obnoxious. Guess my favorite song was Wheels as I like to hear some new songs on the program...yes, I was hoping for Moment to Moment and Pages, too. Maybe next time. Come on Nanse, let's hear your wish list. Looking forward to ordering Go Man Go. Oh well, it was a fun weekend here in So. Calif.

Message: 9670 Posted: Tue Jan 25 17:46:37 2000 By: Virginia
Subject: Re: Jeff Larson News

I totally agree with JoeB..."Watercolor Sky" is wonderful. I finally ordered Jeff's first two CDs, "Beggars" and "Upper Story Landing" and am very glad I did. Both are available through Thoughtscape Sound. Last summer at the KSAN concert in San Jose, I was waiting for Dewey to sign my HN CD when Gerry yelled "Jeff!" and proceeded to have a conversation with the guy standing to the right of me. When I heard the word Annabelle, it dawned on me that I was standing next to Jeff Larson! I tried to keep an eye on him after he walked away so I could tell him how much I enjoy his music (I was still waiting for Dewey), but lost him in the crowd. I'm really looking forward to hearing his new work. Does anyone out there know if Jeff performs in the SF Bay area? As I recall, he lives in Fremont. It would be great to hear him live sometime.

Message: 9669 Posted: Tue Jan 25 15:41:13 2000 By: Joe B
Subject: Re: My Favorite of Gerry's Other Works

Hey You People,

Very busy lately...have been reading but not posting...GREAT NEWS on the box set...My fave 'outside of America' Gerry song would have to be "Take This Heart" which he co-wrote and duets with David Cassidy on the "Home Is Where The Heart Is" album. It's also on the Cassidy CD faeturing the best of his solo post-Partridge years. AMAZING TUNE!
Take care.

Joe B

P.S. Jeff Larson's "Watercolor Sky" completely rules! Can't wait for the next one.

Message: 9668 Posted: Tue Jan 25 13:31:44 2000 By: Maureen
Subject: To Shari....

Hi Shari,

Thanks for the great review of the shows. Sounds like you had a great time. Can't wait to see the photos. I'll get my turn next month in Conn. Anyone else plan on going ??

It is freezing here in New York. Snow/Sleet/Rain - Yuk !!
I hope you guys on the west coast are enjoying your weather !!!

Thanks again,

Message: 9667 Posted: Tue Jan 25 12:29:27 2000 By: JIM
Subject: More "Associations" - SHF Band

I forgot to mention. Both SHF-Band albums are available on CD from Thoughtscape Sounds: The price: 18.99 per CD. Some great songs: Bordertown, Fallin In Love, Heartbreaker, Trouble in Paradise, etc . Anyway, enough about SHF .... back to America!

Message: 9666 Posted: Tue Jan 25 11:42:47 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Trivia question

I think I may finally have a trivia question worthy of guru Johnny (or maybe not).
The playlist I have, and one I have from a previous concert, lists Daisy Jane as "Daisey". I'm wondering if there's something further behind that spelling, or did someone just make a mistake putting it in the computer and has never changed it? Anyone know anything?

Message: 9665 Posted: Tue Jan 25 11:40:49 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Song list - 1/24/00 concerts

Same play list for both 6:30 pm and 9:30 pm shows:

Ventura Highway
You Can Do Magic
Don't Cross the River
Daisy Jane
(Mirror to Mirror crossed off playlist here)
Another Try
(Moment to Moment crossed off playlist here)
Three Roses
I Need You
Wednesday Morning
(Pages crossed off playlist here)
Wheels Are Turning
Tin Man
Woman Tonight
Only In Your Heart
California Dreamin
Lonely People
Things We Said Today (noted on playlist as "Beatles")
(From A Moving Train crossed off playlist here)
Never Be Lonely
Sister Golden Hair
and of course for the encore:
Horse With No Name

Message: 9664 Posted: Tue Jan 25 11:31:01 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Gerry's comments on upcoming releases

Go Man Go: Probably will not be coming out on Gerry's Human Nature label. Release details still being worked out, that's why he estimated 8 weeks. This will be a remix of Van Go Gan, with other artists involved.
The Rhino 3 cd set, which they mentioned during the concert: Gerry said during the concert "it will be a 65 song set, which raises the legal limit of America songs someone can own." He told me afterward it WILL include new material, including some stuff they recorded at Oxygen that wasn't included on Human Nature, and other out takes, etc.

Gerry, thanks so much for being your usual gracious self and stopping to sign my cd's, take photos, and chat with me even tho you were trying to get out of there. As usual, first class all the way!
Shari <><

Message: 9663 Posted: Tue Jan 25 11:15:51 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: 3 part review

Hi, gang. Thanks for the intro, Jim. I'll do this 3 parts to break it up.
Two shows Monday night at the new Crazy Horse in Irvine, Calif.
The guys were in great form. Dewey's voice sounded better than I've heard it in quite a while. He has also grown a goatee, which looked great!! For the first show, my friend and I sat further back. Gerry's son Matt, Matt's two friends, Gerry's wife Kathy, Gerry's little son Joe, and Jeff Foskett (sorry about spelling, somebody correct it) were sitting at the table right in front of us. Matt carried a reluctant Joe (who is 6 or 7) backstage for the encore of Horse. When they did the encore, Joe had a little guitar and was supposed to go out with them and, I assume, do the ZZ top move. He sat on the side of the stage and wouldn't go out with them, despite much coaxing from both Gerry and Matt. At one point, Joe kind of crab walked forward, and stuck his head between Woodz legs and looked up at him. It was really funny. Someone named I believe Tom Sweet also came out for both encores. Somebody let me know who he is, I'm afraid I don't know.
I had fresh film and batteries in my camera, so got the picture with Gerry and Matt I missed in August. (Some of you will remember my story. If not, suffice it to say I had this photo op and had already used all my film.) So I'll take my roll in this morning to get developed, and send them to Steve as soon as I get them back.
WONDERFUL shows, 20 songs, same set both shows. Second show, our seats were in the very front row, right in front of Dewey. Most excellent.
I'll list song set and Gerry's comments about upcoming releases separately.
Thanks, Jim, for your help. As Jim mentioned, there is a new t shirt. I bought the last colored one (the remaining ones were white with just the black logo - no color). I will take pictures of that, too, for Steve to post.
Still amazes me how fresh they sound after doing these songs a gazillion times.
BTW, the venue seats 600, and was very close to full for both shows on a Monday night! Now if they all go buy Human Nature.....
ShsriL in San Diego <><

Message: 9662 Posted: Tue Jan 25 10:45:13 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Associations

I would have LOVED to see JD jammin' w/ America. I am green w/ envy!
Thanks for the tip on the Chris Hillman CD. Definitely sounds worth checking out. So much great music - so little $$$ :-(

Message: 9661 Posted: Tue Jan 25 10:11:57 2000 By: JIM
Subject: Re: Associations

Here's a bit of trivia for the Souther, Hillman, Furay Band fans out there. During America's tour in support of the "Homecoming" album release (1973) ... I saw John David Souther perform as the opening act for the band. He even jammed with the Dewey, Dan and Gerry during the encore! As a side note, Chris Hillman released a great CD last year called "Like a Hurricane" ... it sounds a lot like the old SHF Band. I recommend it.

Message: 9660 Posted: Tue Jan 25 08:56:06 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: ooo Shari

ooo Shari please do give us a review.....Please

Message: 9659 Posted: Tue Jan 25 02:06:07 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Southern Cal - Crazy Horse Review

Shari of San Diego drove up for 2 shows on Monday 1/24/00. A long drive to see the super group AMERICA. I think she may post her innermost feelings on the back-to-back sold out shows she witnessed. Won't you Shari ? pretty please ...
ps - AMERICA's new 2000 t-shirts are out w/the original classic logo.

Message: 9658 Posted: Mon Jan 24 22:42:53 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: I didn't know that song was on there

Was viewing the video I received from Steen/Denmark.
Had it transferred from PAL to NTSC.
America/Germany 1999: They love and respect the guys so much
overseas, that it's exciting...and that I'm jealous.
Included on the tape was the musik laden 1974 and one song
that didn't seem right...hmmm....looked on my Video CD/Music CD
and sure enough, this song was not included on this or the VH1 special. Dewey and Dan are sure jammin' away.....Sandman.
Did anybody know this? Missing song hmmm?

Message: 9657 Posted: Mon Jan 24 21:32:27 2000 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Triple Set , Oxygen,History.

Legacy from Poco is a great CD, hard to believe that it came out in 1989. Where does the time go? Also hard to believe that VGG came out in 1995 and Hourglass in 1994. Someone please tell Father time to slow down or should we just put more sand in the hourglass.

Message: 9656 Posted: Mon Jan 24 21:27:06 2000 By: gary
Subject: Re: 5th song from Human Nature


The fifth song that you are referring to played live from from HN is Moment to Moment. I have only heard it played live once. It was last September at the Aztar Casino located in Evansville, IN


Message: 9655 Posted: Mon Jan 24 21:15:59 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Associations & S/H/F Band

I got both their albums on CD from Music Blvd (now merged w/ CD Now). One was a foreign import that cost big $$$, but it was worth it. I don't know if CD Now still carries them, but it might be worth your while to check it out. I have to agree with you. The songs you mentioned are definitely among the best on the album. There is a version of Furay's "Believe Me" done by Poco on their 2 CD set The Forgotten Trail as well. I like the S/H/F version better, but it was interesting to learn he had originally recorded it w/ Poco but never released it.

Message: 9654 Posted: Mon Jan 24 21:06:56 2000 By: Alan
Subject: 5th song from Human Nature

I've got a question. On they mentioned that are currently doing 5 songs from Human Nature. When I saw them at Mohegan Sun Casino, they played Pages and From A Moving Train. When I saw them this summer at Barnstable County and Topsfield Fairs, they did Wheels Are Turning and Wednesday Morning. What is the 5th song from HN that they do? If I had my pick, it would be Moment To Moment. I love that song and think it would lend itself well to a live performance.

Message: 9653 Posted: Mon Jan 24 21:00:39 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Triple Set , Oxygen,History.

<<Intrestingly enough a few other acts seem to be rleasing new material in future Poco are one>>

I've been hoping for a new Poco album for a long time. The question is: which Poco? They had a number of personnel changes over the years they were together (Rusty Young was the only one who was with them start to finish). Their last reunion album (Legacy back in 89 - an excellent album) featured the original 5 members - Furay, Young, Messina, Grantham & Meisner. According to the Poco home page, they will be touring this year as well. Here's a concept - an America/Poco world tour!

Message: 9652 Posted: Mon Jan 24 20:59:02 2000 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: Re: Associations

That song you're talking about is "Falling In Love"...which was a top 25 song I believe. I LOVED that album!! "Falling In Love..."Heavenly Fire"...and Richie Furay's MASTERPIECE "Believe Me"...spectacular songs. The closest I've come to getting ANY of thtese songs on CD was a Time-Life compilation that had "Falling In Love" on it.

Jim...Erie, PA

Message: 9651 Posted: Mon Jan 24 16:52:16 2000 By: Janice
Subject: re: Jeff Larson news

Steve, thanks for the Jeff Larson news..if the new CD is as good as Watercolor Sky I can't wait for the release. Well folks, we actually got some SNOW here in Atlanta today..of course, if you blinked you would miss it..def not worth diggin' the skis out a fire in, making enchiladas..dinner is at 7 for whomever may be interested..have a great week!

Message: 9650 Posted: Mon Jan 24 16:25:15 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Thanks Howard

Thanks Howard for telling us about It's a fasinating site!

Message: 9649 Posted: Mon Jan 24 16:15:47 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: This And That And The Answer To My 2nd Quiz

That 1972 promo button of America's that recently sold on Ebay reminds me of something I've wondered about. There's a photo of Andrew Gold on the album sleeve of his LP, "All This And Heaven Too". He's wearing a solid red button similar to America's promo button but it's smaller and has absolutely no writing on it. On one of Fools Gold's LPs, band member Denny Henson is wearing a red button identical to the one Andrew Gold is wearing. Both of these albums came out around the mid-to-late 70s. It reminds me of today's celebrities who wear the red ribbons to promote AIDS awareness. Does anyone know if there was any significance to these red buttons?

It doesn't surprise me regarding what Jimnak said about American Flyer being heavily influenced by America. There are so many striking similarities that it couldn't have been just coincidence. AF's album being produced by Sir George the same year and the band's name alone says a whole lot. One of the band members could pass for Dewey's brother in my opinion. I'd like to point out to you all the similarities to American Flyer's 1976 album and America's perhaps later. I must say this though...hard as they may have tried to emulate America, they fell way short because there's no comparison to Dan, Dewey, and Gerry's vocal quality and wonderful songwriting. It was a compliment to America's music, nevertheless.

Here is the answer to my second quiz from yesterday (if anyone cares). This was the only way I could get a copy of this LP. The record store wasn't able to order it for me. I can't remember why, though. As a fan, I was determined not to be denied!

9255 Sunset Boulevard
Los Angeles, California 90069
June 12, 1979

Dear Johnny:

Thank you for your interest in DAN PEEK. You may purchase the album "ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE" through our office. Please send a check in the amount of $5.98 made payable to Spoone Music Corporation at the above address, and we will send out the album by return mail.

Thank you again for your interest.

Maureen Mata (Mrs)

Message: 9648 Posted: Mon Jan 24 10:44:31 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Unsuccessful vs Commercial

>I think the absolute BEST albums have been NONcommercial.<

I agree wholeheartedly! The vast majority of the music I listen to and enjoy the most has been (by industry standards) commercially unsuccessful. There are so many under-rated artists out there that deserve to be listened to and so many no-talent artists that get all-too-much attention. I think it has gotten a lot worse since MTV. In fact, when a band/artist I like starts getting too successful, I start to worry about them, because most of the time they've compromised something to get there.

Message: 9647 Posted: Mon Jan 24 10:10:18 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Jeff Larson News

Happy Monday everyone (is it possible to be happy on Monday?). I found out that Jeff Larson has been hard at work and will soon be coming out with a new CD. Here are a couple of links where you can go to read about what's on the horizon including information about Jeff Foskett who sings backup for Jeff Larson and produces many of his songs. Keep up the great work Jeff.

For those of you who are new to the Chat Folder or haven't heard of Jeff Larson before, he has performed as an opening act for America and he is one of their biggest fans. On his latest CD, Watercolor Sky, he performed a Gerry Beckley tune, "Annabelle". You can read about Jeff in the Bios section of the America Fans web site where there are links to all of his CD's including sound clips.

Message: 9646 Posted: Mon Jan 24 09:30:32 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Associations

<< While we're on the subject of associations and collaborations, anyone here remember the Souther/Hillman/Furay Band? They produced 2 albums (self-titled and Trouble In Paradise) of which I own both. I think they are pretty good albums despite the fact they were commercially unsuccessful. >>

I remeber them. Didn't they have a single that cracked the top 40 or at least charted back in the early 70s? I can't recall the name but I seem to remember that I liked it. It's just another one of those forgetten songs that oldies and classic rock stations would do well to add to their playlists instead of playing the same songs over and over and over and over and over ....

Message: 9645 Posted: Mon Jan 24 08:35:23 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Unsuccessful vs Commercial

You know what? I think the absolute BEST albums have been NONcommercial. I know the "forces that be" want something that is SOMEthing to EVERYone, but I would rather listen to a "balls to the wall" kind of creativity anyday! (I'm a little fiesty this morning, I apologize for the somewhat nasty euphamism) Kind of like the whole California thing in the '70's and the "Chilies" in the '80's and early grunge......something a bit bracing from the norm!


Message: 9644 Posted: Mon Jan 24 08:34:57 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Unsuccessful vs Commercial

You know what? I think the absolute BEST albums have been NONcommercial. I know the "forces that be" want something that is SOMEthing to EVERYone, but I would rather listen to a "balls to the wall" kind of creativity anyday! (I'm a little fiesty this morning, I apologize for the somewhat nasty euphamism) Kind of like the whole California thing in the '70's and the "Chilies" in the '80's and early grunge......something a bit bracing from the norm!

Message: 9643 Posted: Mon Jan 24 07:15:45 2000 By: Spurs
Subject: Triple Set , Oxygen,History.

Hello everyone,with the release of an America triple set this year on Rhino records excitement is in the air,this promises to be something special in particular demos from early recordings and a number of tunes that many of the fans knew of are finally going to see the light of day,so perhaps we could call the cd Hostage's.This year will also be the 25th anniversary of History America's greatest hits,lets hope Warners lift their game re release it with additional tracks and get it digitly remastered.This should be some year all we need now is for Oxygen to ask the lads back into the studio,and I refer to Steve's post 9167 when Karen has promised some new and exciting things in future.Intrestingly enough a few other acts seem to be rleasing new material in future Poco are one,they are in conclave on how the cd should be released internet or record stores,particularly when large conglomerates seem to be getting together Time Warner and EMI,also America online with someone else I forget who,should prove a nightmare when sorting royalties out.With all this talk of Sir George Martin who incidently produced Aussie rockers Little River Band for a couple of albums,but according to reports Sir George's hearing is a trifle on the dodgy side.

Message: 9642 Posted: Mon Jan 24 00:14:16 2000 By: Brad
Subject: Re: More This And That Plus Two Quizzes

Love was Just Another Word was on Dan's first album, Gerry did background on Dan's song Doer of the Word, also Chris Hillman was in the Desert Rose Band which had Herb Pederson and John Jorgenson on guitar,in the 1980's. John does a guitar trio called The Hellecasters now when he is'nt playing in Elton John's band. Check out there web site .

Message: 9641 Posted: Sun Jan 23 23:09:13 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Sir George In 1976 with AMERIC....

Yes indeed Johnny. American Flyer served as a bit of a compliment to AMERICA. American Flyers music evoked similiar emotions in me that AMERICA did. They only did 2 LP's. Very similiar harmonies, very down-to-earth lyrics. I know they were heavily influenced by the super group AMERICA. Of course there is only 1 AMERICA, close to 30 years later.

Message: 9640 Posted: Sun Jan 23 22:29:30 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: search

To help answer the question of what album Gerry Beckley
appeared on with CHris Christian. Go to
WWW.ALLMUSIC.COM and put chris christian's name
in it and search under his albums and look for
the name of the 2 songs. Sorry I don't know it
offhand. Put Gerry's name in it and you'll see
all the artists that we mentioned. That's my source,
no magic rabbits. Have a good week everyone. hl

Message: 9639 Posted: Sun Jan 23 18:07:30 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Sir George In 1976 with AMERIC....

Jim, you're absolutely right with your answer of the OTHER band produced by Sir George in 1976. I figured you or Howard would know the answer. AMERICAN FLYER consisted of Craig Fuller, Eric Kaz, Steve Katz, and Doug Yule. Their second LP was produced by someone other than Sir George.

I was hoping to give the following clues if no one guessed it at this point. I'll give the clues anyway and notice the similarities to America's 1976 LP, "Hideaway".

The Clues...

#1: On side 1, the first song begins with the letter "L" and contents the word, "love". "Light Of Your LOVE" vs. "LOVEly Night"

#2: The title to the fourth song has something to do with vision: "Lady Blue EYES" vs. "Can't You SEE"

#3: The fifth song on side one has the word, "down" in its title:
"Let Me DOWN Easy" vs. "Watership DOWN"

#4: The first song on side 2 is about a female:
"The WOMAN In Your Heart" vs. "SHE'S A Liar"

#5: The second song on side 2 begins with the letter "L":
"Love Has No Pride" vs. "Letter"

#6: The fourth song on side 1 of American Flyer's album has the word "blue" in its title while the fourth song on side 2 of America's album also has the word "blue" in its title:
"Lady BLUE Eyes" vs. "Jet Boy BLUE"

#7 The third song on side 2 has the word "Days" in its title":
"Queen Of All My DAYS" vs. "ToDAY'S The Day"

#8: The last song on the album is an instumental:
"End Of A Love Song" (written by Sir George and Eric Kaz) vs. Dewey's "Hideaway Part II"

#9: American Flyer and America's album were both recorded at studios with the word "Ranch" in its name:
Indigo Ranch vs. Caribou Ranch

Very strange coincidences, don't you think?

Message: 9638 Posted: Sun Jan 23 17:26:38 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Associations

While we're on the subject of associations and collaborations, anyone here remember the Souther/Hillman/Furay Band? They produced 2 albums (self-titled and Trouble In Paradise) of which I own both. I think they are pretty good albums despite the fact they were commercially unsuccessful.

Message: 9637 Posted: Sun Jan 23 14:52:12 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: More This And That Plus Two Quizzes

American Flyer. Spirit of a Woman (LP 2 & finale).

Message: 9636 Posted: Sun Jan 23 13:43:50 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: More This And That Plus Two Quizzes

Steve D, glad to have you step forward from your lurking perch.

Tabja, Howard told us once which album(s) that "A Day Like Today" and "Man Behind The Man" are from but I've forgotten. Howard, will you please remind us? Beechlady, you're right...who knows what's hidden out there regarding Dewey and Gerry's collaborations with other artists. If anyone can discover it, I'd put my money on Howard. He's done a great job at digging up such wonderful treasures for us. I think the biggest surprise to me was Gerry's involvement as the voice of Theodore the Chipmunk. We were told about that on "Where Are They Now", I believe it was.

Talking about producers and unknown works, I have a quiz for you all. In 1976, what band was Sir George Martin producing? The album was recorded at a studio that has two words in its name. The last word is "Ranch". The band's name starts with these six letters: a, m, e, r, i, c. Can you name that band and no, I haven't totally lost my mind with this quiz whose answer appears to be a slam dunk. Good luck!

Here's another quiz. Can you tell us the artist that is the subject of the following letter that I received one day in June? Also, can you name the album? Here's the letter:

9255 Sunset Boulevard
Los Angeles, California 90069
June 12, ___

Dear Johnny:

Thank you for your interest in ______. You may purchase the album ______ through our office. Please send a check in the amount of $5.98 made payable to Spoone Music Corporation at the above address, and we will send out the album by return mail.

Thank you again for your interest.

Maureen Mata (Mrs)

Message: 9635 Posted: Sun Jan 23 11:56:50 2000 By: SteveD
Subject: Good News / Bad News

Hello from a long-time Lurker.

Good News - Heard "Sister Golden Hair" on the Radio yesterday.

Bad News - It was on the Oldies station.


Message: 9634 Posted: Sun Jan 23 11:50:37 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Would-be collaborations

I know Bobby Colomby produced "Right Before Your Eyes", but I would have liked it if he had worked more with America during the early '80s than just a couple songs off View From The Ground.


Message: 9633 Posted: Sun Jan 23 00:11:19 2000 By: tabja
Subject: Gerry's other works

Hello : I would like to know what are the names of Chris Christian's Original Albums (not compilations) where the songs 'Day Like Today' and 'Man Behind The Man' appear. Thanks in advance.

Message: 9632 Posted: Sat Jan 22 20:52:52 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: re: Associations.

Speaking of the Eagles, I've always wished for an America album produced by ex-Eagles producer Bill Szymczyk. When he took over the production chores from Glynn Johns is when the Eagles really took off. He always seemed like a natural for America. His absence was really felt on the Eagles Hell Freezes Over. To me, more than any other producer, he really nailed that California Sound of the 70s.


Message: 9631 Posted: Sat Jan 22 17:17:32 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Associations

Even though Dewey and Gerry haven't worked much with other "California Sound" acts such as Frey, Henley, Buckingham, Nicks, Zevon, Browne, Ronstadt, or others, they share ties to hundreds of go-betweens. Two Eagles (and a Poco) are known to have recorded on America's albums, Joe Walsh (Hat Trick) and Timothy B. Schmit (almost everything). Of course, America has worked with Beach Boy Carl Wilson extensively. There are other well-known industry people who have links to just about everybody in California who the guys have worked with, including Waddy Wachtel, Richard Page, Jimmy Webb, Andrew Gold, Dean Parks, Jeff Porcaro, Steve Lukather, Nathan East, and about a zillion others. I AM surprised, though, that producers like Jay Graydon, Michael Omartian, or David Foster haven't collaborated with America yet. (Graydon and Omartian did, however, help out on Dan Peek's solo stuff.) Needless to say, I'm sure Dewey and Gerry are more likely to collaborate with their close friends in the music biz rather than reach out for big names.


Message: 9630 Posted: Sat Jan 22 17:02:34 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: This and That

>With Dewey and Gerry's association with Timothy B, JD Souther, >Andrew Gold, Tom Kelly, and Joe Walsh, it's a bit strange to me that >there's been no work (that I know of) with Henley, Frey, Felder, >Meisner, or Leadon and only one association with Fogelberg.

Ahhhhhh, nothing that we KNOW OF gotta figure with all that "incestual" goings on, something will surface......rofl!

Message: 9629 Posted: Sat Jan 22 16:10:48 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: This and That

Howard, I didn't know that Fools Gold was Fogelberg's backup band in the past. The things we learn. I knew, however, that the Eagles were Linda Ronstadt's band in the beginning.

I was looking through some of the credits on some of the albums I have and I saw a familiar name but I'm not sure if it's the same person. On one of BJ Thomas' albums, I saw the name, Bobby Woods, as a keyboardist. Does anyone know if it's the same Bobby Woods associated with Gerry and "Houses In White" and the Di Farrelly project?

I also saw credits for Timothy B's work all over the place. Man, he really gets around. On one of Richie Furay's albums, I saw Timothy B and David Cassidy's name together as background singers on two of Furay's songs. And of course, there was Dewey's name mentioned on Steve Perry's solo album, "Oh Sherrie". It read something to the effect of, "thanks to Dewey 'Stevie Baby' Bunnell". It didn't say what Dewey was credited for but it was good to see Dewey's name just the same. I also saw Brad's name as the bass player on one song of Andrew Gold's album, "All This And Heaven Too". I am aware that Brad was formerly a member of Gold's band.

With Dewey and Gerry's association with Timothy B, JD Souther, Andrew Gold, Tom Kelly, and Joe Walsh, it's a bit strange to me that there's been no work (that I know of) with Henley, Frey, Felder, Meisner, or Leadon and only one association with Fogelberg.

Message: 9628 Posted: Sat Jan 22 15:22:23 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Fogelberg and Others

ANOTHER ZEVON FAN! Believe it or not my local Library introduced me to Zevon. They had his debut album in their bin. I read the liner notes, saw who he had playing with him ( STEPHANIE Nicks???-- this was pre my Fleetwood Mac days, around 73-74?) and picked it up. Been a fan ever since. Loved that "California Sound" genre, good harmony good lyrics.

Message: 9627 Posted: Sat Jan 22 13:00:12 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Stuff...

Boy, I take a couple weeks off the chat folder, and EVERYTHING happens! See, someone must have been listening to all of our talk about having an America box set. If anyone is to do it, it might as well be Rhino, since they could make a more balanced set than any one of the record companies America has recorded for. Then there's Go Man Go... I hope Gerry's material does well in some way or another!! By the way, I couldn't agree more with Beechlady's comments... Warren Zevon is the man!! He has a new album coming out this week called "Life'll Kill Ya". The guy is a twisted genius -- now if only somebody would release his and America's performances at the Jesse Ventura inaugural ball from last year!!!!!!! (Are you listening, Rhino?)


Message: 9626 Posted: Sat Jan 22 10:25:59 2000 By: Janice
Subject: Alan..

The Rick Danko album is self-titled and is still available on E-Bay until tonight..there are currently 3 bids on it..There is also an America Hideaway CD import up for grabs..well..back to re-potting my plants..hope everyone has a wonderful weekend! :-)

Message: 9625 Posted: Sat Jan 22 09:01:09 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Fogelberg and Others

And J.D. Souther led me to Warren Zevon (one of my personal FAVORITE guys) which, of course, leads back to Ms. Ronstadt, which (of course)leads in SEVERAL
Incestual? Nice use of verbage Alan!!!! rofl!!!

Message: 9624 Posted: Sat Jan 22 08:58:31 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Legal-dis-ease

>>Mike Love and Al Jardine are suing each other over the Beach Boys >>name.

How RIDICULOUS!!!!!!! These guys need to GET ON with their lives....oh, I guess I'm being too naive (and a poor speller to boot)where there's MONEY TO BE MADE.....sigh.

Sorry for the sarcasm. I'm jealous of all that snow up north...sigh.


Message: 9623 Posted: Fri Jan 21 20:53:39 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Dewey - solo album?

Many years ago there was talk about a DEWEY BUNNELL solo, unfortunately things did not materialize. Haven't heard anything recently on the subject, but what a great thought.

"Wishing on a falling star, watching for the early train ...."

Message: 9622 Posted: Fri Jan 21 20:26:39 2000 By: Alan Wind
Subject: Ventura Highway-The Best Road Song

Joey Ledford of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution recently wrote an article about his favorite road songs and asked his fellow readers to send in their personal favorites.When I wrote that Ventura Highway was the best song Joey e-mailed me back that a fellow reporter agreed that Ventura Highway was the best road song ever written.

Message: 9621 Posted: Fri Jan 21 19:54:53 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Dewey - solo album?

Did I hear a rumor that Dewey's working on his own solo album?

Message: 9620 Posted: Fri Jan 21 19:42:36 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Fogelberg and Others

Yep. Quite an incestual bunch those 70's rockers were. The Eagles led me to SO many great bands and artists - Dan Fogelberg, Jackson Browne, J.D. Souther, Poco, Joe Walsh just to name a few.
On the subject of Gerry playing on Dan's Souvenirs album, I looked it up tonight when I got home from work to satisfy my curiosity. The song he played on was "A Place In The World For A Gambler". He plays accoustic guitar (doesn't say whether 6 or 12-string). That's one of the (many) Fogelberg songs I play on the guitar!
Also, a correction to my earlier post: Joe Walsh did NOT produce Captured Angel, only Souvenirs. He also played on virtually EVERY song on the album, not just a couple as I had earlier thought. I thought he had produced a couple of albums for ol' Dan, but Dan started producing his own starting with Captured Angel. His first LP was produced by Norbert Putnam so Joe only produced the one.

Message: 9619 Posted: Fri Jan 21 18:26:36 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Fool's Gold Johnny

As a matter of fact, Fool's Gold was Fogelberg's backup band
for sometime in the 70's. ....

Message: 9618 Posted: Fri Jan 21 16:13:29 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Fogelberg and Others

For what it's worth, Dan Fogelberg, Joe Walsh, Don Henley, and Glenn Frey all contributed to a 70s album by Fools Gold. As I've mentioned several times before, Fools Gold consisted of Tom Kelly and Denny Henson. Kelly contributed his vocal talent to America's "Alibi" and "View From The Ground" albums.

Saw Brian Wilson last night on one of the tv news magazine shows. It's a strange life that he's led. Sounds like he's on the comeback trail, though. I think he looks like an older version of Don Henley. The show also mentioned that Mike Love and Al Jardine are suing each other over the Beach Boys name. I wasn't too clear whether Brian Wilson was involved in the suit.

Message: 9617 Posted: Fri Jan 21 14:17:38 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Alan

You Are Correct Sir!!!

Message: 9616 Posted: Fri Jan 21 14:01:28 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Beckley's OTHER works

Being a BIG Fogelberg fan and having all his albums, I would have thought I would have picked up on that one. Now I'm going to have to get out my Souvenirs CD and check the credits, liner notes, etc. I do know that Joe Walsh produced that album and Captured Angel and played guitar on a couple of tracks, but I don't remember Beckley being listed. If memory serves me correctly, Joe Walsh also played guitar on the America song "Green Monkey" on the Hat Trick album.

Message: 9615 Posted: Fri Jan 21 11:58:27 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Gerry/Dewey Project

My favorite is when Gerry and Dewey helped with background vocals
to Dan Peek's "Love was just another word."
Probably last time all 3 sang together. But supposedly, Dewey
said in an interview, after the breakup, Gerry and Dewey
invited Dan up on stage to sing horse and that wasn't even
acknowledged by the press or anybody. Dewey was angry at that.
Gerry also sang on Jimmy Webb's lp "Angel Heart" 1982.
that's it for now, HL

Message: 9614 Posted: Fri Jan 21 11:00:42 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: My Favorite of Gerry's Other Works

My favorite song that Gerry is associated with outside of America is "A Day Like Today" with Chris Christian.

Message: 9613 Posted: Fri Jan 21 08:06:19 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Shayne

Thanks Shayne....

Message: 9612 Posted: Fri Jan 21 07:41:57 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: Alan...ALan

Howard, here is the info from the song in Middle Age Crazy (from the America Fans Home Page):

Now That I Know from Middle Age Crazy

This 1980 movie (also known as Heartfarm) starred Bruce Dern and Ann-Margret. Gerry Beckley and Lisa Del Bello sing "Now That I Know" which was written by Matthew McCauley.

Message: 9611 Posted: Thu Jan 20 22:25:18 2000 By: Tom T.
Subject: Better Late Than Ever....Happy B-Day Dewey!

Hello Guys & Gals, Friends & Pals Hope all is great !!! Here in Southern New England we are deep in the midst of the cold grip of Winter!!!! I haven't seen any "Purple Ghosts" yet-LOL! To Dewey-Best Wishes in everything you do!!! On the Big Oldies Station out of Hartford, Conn.-WDRC- Yesterday morning the DeeJay's Acknowledged all the Famous Celebrities who share this Special Day!!! And they saved Dewey's Birthday for last and played HWNN. Mike & Beth (The D.J's) then went on and on about how great America Is, they spoke about the wonderful show in Torrington and they said That Dewey is a "World Class Act"!!!! It made my morning to hear their acknowledgement of Dewey, Gerry And America. I would of posted this message yesterday but with the terrible weather I got stuck working a double shift and I just couldn't muster the strength to type. Anyway...Happy B-Day! See Ya Tom Tee

Message: 9610 Posted: Thu Jan 20 22:18:38 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Alan...ALan

Gerry has done massive projects with alot of people.
Either sang background vocals or played piano, guitar with
such artists:
Simpsons:yellow album
David Cassidy. 3 albums.
Dan Fogelberg: Souvenirs
Kyle Vincent: 1st album
California Project. beach boys soundalike group
David Blue: Gerry, Dewey and Dan sang background "Ooh Mama" song.
Michael Bruce: (He was from famed group Alice Cooper
Dave mason: mariposo De oro lp
Modern Folk Quartet: He sings Crying in my sleep
Movie: Middle Age Crazy. As movie ends, he sings a duet with a female
don't know name of song or female. Help anybody.

And plenty of others. bye for now, Howard L

Message: 9609 Posted: Thu Jan 20 21:08:49 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Re: and on the subject of E-Bay..

When did Gerry do a CD w/ Rick Danko? Do you recall the name of it? They seem to me to be an unlikely match. I like Rick Danko, especially his work w/ The Band. It's just that Gerry's (and America's) music is so polished and perfectly arranged, and I've always considered The Band's music to be a little rough around the edges. Definitely an interesting pairing. I'd like to get my hands on a copy of it.

Message: 9608 Posted: Thu Jan 20 20:46:12 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Re: America in concert

I first saw them in 1978 at age 19 at a larger venue (Dan had just left the band - a bit of a disappointment). I didn't see them again until 20 years later (Mohegan Sun Casino). Since then, I have seen them 3 other times (Barnstable County Fair and 2 shows at Topsfield Fair - both in Mass). Personally, I enjoy the smaller venues much more. I think you get a much more intimate and personal performance. I've also seen Dan Fogelberg and Gordon Lightfoot in the last couple of years - both smaller venues, both great shows. I do hope I can make the right connections to get America to Maine. That would be awesome!

Message: 9607 Posted: Thu Jan 20 17:50:27 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: 1972 Promo Button

Johnny, I haven't ever seen the button before. Thanks for sending it to me. I'll get it out on the web site as soon as I can.

Message: 9606 Posted: Thu Jan 20 17:35:43 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Promo Button.

Wish I'd have seen that. I would have bid on it. I have the same kind of button from Alibi. With the dead baby doll cover photo. Found it a Karma Records in Indianapolis a long time ago.


Message: 9605 Posted: Thu Jan 20 13:30:25 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: 1972 Promo Button

Did anyone besides me see the America promotional button (the kind you wear on your shirt, for example) on Ebay the other day? Here is what it said in the description:

"This is an original promotional button issued by the group's record label in 1972. It has an orange background with the band's logo in black letters repeated across the entire face of the button. It measures 3" in diameter and is in perfect condition. A rare piece of memorabilia from this hit-making group."

It went off the bid list the other day but I was able to print a copy of it before it did. I can scan it and send it via e-mail to Steve for everyone's viewing. It's quite simple looking. The font is the same as on the "Homecoming" album cover.

Steve, has this button been placed in the memorabilia section of the folder before?

Message: 9604 Posted: Thu Jan 20 12:09:01 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: America in concert

Good luck in your venture, Alan! I know what you're going thru, having spent my entire youth just trying to get to my FIRST concert (didn't do it until 1994, believe it or not)......but it was worth the wait, being in a good sized venue in the SECOND ROW!!!!!! (((C=

Wishing you well,

Message: 9603 Posted: Thu Jan 20 12:06:09 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: and on the subject of E-Bay..

The Nilsson CD is exceptionally cool.....(C=

Message: 9602 Posted: Thu Jan 20 11:04:22 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Re: America in concert

Steve, Thanks for the advice. I suspected I would probably have to petition the fairgrounds owners to invite them. It will take a little work just to find out the right people to talk to, but it will be worth it if it means bringing America a little closer to home.

Message: 9601 Posted: Thu Jan 20 08:49:28 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Re: America in concert

Steve, Thanks for the advice. I suspected I would probably have to petition the fairgrounds owners to invite them. It will take a little work just to find out the right people to talk to, but it will be worth it if it means bringing America a little closer to home.

Message: 9600 Posted: Thu Jan 20 04:59:33 2000 By: TerryT
Subject: For Dewey...last but not least

On behalf of us friends just east of the International Date Line, HAPPY ROCKIN' BIRTHDAY!!!
Hoping all this attention doesn't interfere with you working on your solo album. Obviously you are LOVED, as much as I have loved seeing your name in large quantity lately. Whatever you put together, I'll consume.

Please and Thanks, with Love...


Message: 9599 Posted: Wed Jan 19 20:32:38 2000 By: CJ
Subject: Happy Birthday Dewey!!!

Well, better late than never, huh??? Happy Birthday!! Hope your day has been filled with all the things you wanted and none of the realities of everyday life - THAT's what birthdays are for!! Thanks for the music - your gift to me!!! We miss you here in Cleveland and look forward to seeing you again!!

Happy Birthday!!

Chris (& Mark, too!!)

Message: 9598 Posted: Wed Jan 19 20:19:00 2000 By: Beth
Subject: Happy B-Day

Happy Birthday Dewey! Thanks for all the beautiful tunes. We love 'em, and so, we love you, too! You stood and talked with me briefly last year after a show in a Casino up in Wisconsin, Lac du Flambeau. I hope to see you and the rest of your wonderful band this summer in Minnesota! Have a Great Day!

Message: 9597 Posted: Wed Jan 19 19:20:38 2000 By: Janice
Subject: and on the subject of E-Bay..

last week there was a Van Go Gan CD with lots of bids..and tonight there are two CDs that feature with Rick Danko and the other is the Tribute to Harry Nilsson. Check it out fellow E-Bayers!

Message: 9596 Posted: Wed Jan 19 19:17:53 2000 By: Janice
Subject: Happy Birthday Dewey!

Thought I would take a break from E-Bay and check in..and lo and behold we have a birthday boy! Best wishes for a wonderful day!

Message: 9595 Posted: Wed Jan 19 19:10:45 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: America in concert

Alan, the answer is actually quite simple. America goes where they are invited. So, the best thing to do is petition the fairs or venues in your area and have them invite America. I can get the appropriate people in touch with America's booking agency if necessary. I hope that you can get something worked out in your area. Good luck!

Message: 9594 Posted: Wed Jan 19 18:27:40 2000 By: Alan
Subject: America in concert

I love to see America in concert, but I am starting to get tired of the 3-6 hour drives I have to take from Farmington, Maine to New Hampshire, Massachussetts or Connecticut to see them. Is there anything I could do to get them to come to Maine. We have fairs as big or bigger than Topsfield and Barnstable County, where I saw them last summer and fall. Who would I petition to bring America to one of these? Anyone have the "inside track" on what to do?

Message: 9593 Posted: Wed Jan 19 18:18:17 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Happy Birthday Dewey

Dewey, I want to join everyone else in wishing you the happiest of birthdays. Ed Collins sent me a birthday card especially for you. You can click here to see it.

Message: 9592 Posted: Wed Jan 19 18:13:51 2000 By: Rick Bolling
Subject: Re: Happy BIRTHDAY DEWEY!!

Happy birthday Dewey!! the Wheels are turning!


Message: 9591 Posted: Wed Jan 19 18:10:28 2000 By: dennis
Subject: Happy BIRTHDAY DEWEY!!

hope this birthday finds you well and healthy! The music is great and getting better and better,keep on rockin...have a Great Year! Love & Light, Dennis,Goldeneaglevideo

Message: 9590 Posted: Wed Jan 19 15:43:33 2000 By: Tres'
Subject: Happy Birthday Dewey

Dewey - hope you have a wonderful day! Thank you for all the music and smiles you've shared w/us...and the memories they hold. Enjoy your day to the fullest. I wish you all the best of everything you've ever wanted. Enjoy!

Message: 9589 Posted: Wed Jan 19 14:21:37 2000 By: Pete
Subject: America

Have a great day Dewey, Happy birthday. America moves on!

Message: 9588 Posted: Wed Jan 19 13:13:01 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Happy Birthday, Dewey

This is my first post to the chat folder. In fact, I just started "lurking" yesterday. Found out it was your birthday today and decided to register in time to wish you a happy one! I've enjoyed your music (and Gerry's) immensely for many years and hope to enjoy it for many more to come!

Message: 9587 Posted: Wed Jan 19 12:54:38 2000 By: Maureen
Subject: Happy Birthday, Dewey....

Dear Dewey,
I just wanted to wish you a very Happy Birthday and many,
many more !! Have a Great Day !!! See you next month in Conn.


Message: 9586 Posted: Wed Jan 19 11:43:29 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Happy

Birthday Dewey! Thanks for all the joy you have given us. May you have a perfect day! ( and many more!)

Message: 9585 Posted: Wed Jan 19 10:21:41 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: B-day

Happy, Happy B-day Dewey, & many more to come, THANX for the Great Music.

Message: 9584 Posted: Wed Jan 19 10:13:15 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Jan 19.


Message: 9583 Posted: Wed Jan 19 08:51:07 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Jan 19.

Merry Deweymas, everyone.


Message: 9582 Posted: Wed Jan 19 07:05:39 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Happy Birthday Dewey

Happy Birthday to you and many more.
Hope you have a great day and thank you for all
those years of wonderful music.
I'll have a great music clip to steve tonight everyone!
Enjoy, Howard L

Message: 9581 Posted: Wed Jan 19 05:44:20 2000 By: laura
Subject: and many more.....

Dewey :
and thank you, and thank you, and thank you and.....

...may all your wishes come true!

Message: 9580 Posted: Tue Jan 18 23:53:53 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: happy birthday!!!

Happy Birthday Dewey!!!!
"So follow the path through the knowing trees
And each time you laugh, it is love you release
That love will come back in the garden of peace"

The love has come back to you from all of us fans...have a great day!!

Message: 9579 Posted: Tue Jan 18 23:01:12 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: BIRTHDAY BOY !!!!

There is no possible way for us to thank you for all that you've given us, so at very least please accept our birthday wishes. Absolutely nobody deserves a better one than you do! I hope your upcoming year will be the best one yet!


Message: 9578 Posted: Tue Jan 18 22:20:52 2000 By: Erin
Subject: Dewey!!

Happy Birthday Dewey!!! I hope you have a GREAT day, and lots of luck in the year to come. You are the BEST!!
Erin :o)

Message: 9577 Posted: Tue Jan 18 22:01:36 2000 By: Lori York
Subject: Happy B* Day Dewey!

Cheers Dewey! Happy Birthday!!! Hope You Get Chances To Read Steves Chat Folder! Wish You Would Update!

Peace, luv and Hippy Beads!


Message: 9576 Posted: Tue Jan 18 13:31:01 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: To Dewey One Day Ahead

Since I'm not sure that I'll be online tomorrow, I want to wish a huge HAPPY BIRTHDAY one day ahead to Sir Dewey!!! Dewey, I hope you have a great day tomorrow because you deserve it! Here's to many, many more happy birthdays to come. I'm reversing roles with you by sending YOU my best!

Message: 9575 Posted: Mon Jan 17 23:04:32 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: The last word on Fred

Beth, Robyn, and Johnny,
I guess I get the last word on Fred...only there are no more words....Just strum three times using


Message: 9574 Posted: Mon Jan 17 18:42:56 2000 By: Beth
Subject: I'm in on the fred deal

Robyn, Andy,
...But I ain't sad now I done it....cuz a baby boy has got

Message: 9573 Posted: Mon Jan 17 16:58:56 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Too Late For Fred

LOL... I dunno why I done it...honest it ain't like me....


Message: 9572 Posted: Mon Jan 17 16:40:44 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Too Late For Fred

Why Andy are you gonna blow up the bridge?

Message: 9571 Posted: Mon Jan 17 12:24:54 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Too Late For Fred

Johnny (and the entire peanut gallery),
Very funny...poor Fred.....poor, poor Fred......Now if you smarty pants don't mind, kindly step away from my very own, personal railroad down on the ridge...


Message: 9570 Posted: Mon Jan 17 12:14:03 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: guess on Gerry's song/date-wise


Oh, that was WAY before I was born, guys......



Message: 9569 Posted: Mon Jan 17 12:08:43 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Box Set Design

That'd make THREE!! Anyone else? (C=

Message: 9568 Posted: Mon Jan 17 10:18:20 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Too Late For Fred

LOL Johnny. I am a little slow on the uptake this morning!

Message: 9567 Posted: Mon Jan 17 08:35:34 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Too Late For Fred

Thanks Jim for the info on "Here Comes My Baby". Andy, regarding English gun restrictions, too late for Fred. Remember, he was shot in the head. (LOL)

Message: 9566 Posted: Sun Jan 16 22:27:20 2000 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: Re: "Here Comes My Baby"

"Here Comes My Baby" was originally done by the Tremeloes...sometime around 1967. It was also written by Cat Stevens. The Tremeloes other big hit was "Silence is Golden".


Message: 9565 Posted: Sun Jan 16 19:13:55 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Lennon

Congratulations on your impending grandfatherhood. Any baby that starts off life wearing John Lennon's artwork is definitely off to a good start.
I grew up only three blocks from where John lived and was ultimately murdered. My friend lived even closer than me to the Dakota. He actually heard the shots...he thought it was illegal fireworks, until the streets around the Dakota became consumed with blazing police activity.
Not to put a damper on things, but I sense that you're giving un-warranted credit to English gun restrictions on preventing George Harrison from being killed. Remember that those gun restrictions did nothing to prevent the huge numbers of politically motivated killings that have plagued our friends on the other side of the pond. My point is that while law abiding citizens may not be able to have handguns too easily, any loony with bad intent can certainly obtain one if they are motivated to do so.
I also get the feeling that the world would be slightly better off had Olivia Harrison kept a small gun of her own. To be sure, we would never again have to worry about the beast that invaded George and Olivia's home. If this sounds melodramatic, consider that Mark David Chapman is going to be eligable for parole in the year 2000 (yes, this year!)
Anyhow, I'm starting to well everyone...


Message: 9564 Posted: Sun Jan 16 13:45:18 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: "Here Comes My Baby"

George Harrison's wife can swing a mean lamp or was it a vase?

Yesterday on TV, I saw a video by the country music group, The Mavericks. The song was "Here Comes My Baby". Do you remember the song? I can't recall who the original group was that performed it. It was a 60's song, wasn't it? Anyway, it made me think how fun it could be if Gerry and Dewey sang the song in concert.

Message: 9563 Posted: Sat Jan 15 21:27:06 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Lennon

yes and God bless Olivia Harrison!!!!

Message: 9562 Posted: Sat Jan 15 20:16:14 2000 By: Joe Knight
Subject: Lennon

I may not have mentioned this in past postings but I will be a grandfather for the first time near the end of march or first of april. Leakycanoe mentioned the John Lennon song writing contest. Did you guys know that a company has come out with a line of baby clothes with his artwork on them? Well I didn't but my daughter (unknown to me) is a big John Lennon fan amd is buying up all these baby clothes she can find. Isn't that something. The artwork is really nice.
Thank God that handguns are outlawed in Great Britain or we would have 2 dead Beatles now........ Joe K

Message: 9561 Posted: Sat Jan 15 15:48:10 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Howard???

Howard, are you kidding about "if it's okay with everyone here..."? You bet! Man oh man, Go Man Go!! I say to treat us like Sister Golden Hair and bring on the surprise!

Message: 9560 Posted: Sat Jan 15 11:00:00 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Surprise

If it's okay with everyone here and all you lurkers,
Once a week, I'd like to send Steve an audio file
for the board (America of course). Each week there's a guaranteed surprise in store!
Have a good weekend everyone. HL

Message: 9559 Posted: Sat Jan 15 10:17:03 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: "VGV" Sound Clip

I forgot to mention that the sound clip of Gerry's song, "VGV", remixed is very nice. Check it out on the front page. Thanks Gordon (and Steve) for sharing it.

Message: 9558 Posted: Sat Jan 15 10:10:36 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Songs I Hear Most Often On The Radio

Yes it is cool, Beth. I haven't heard "Lonely People" on the radio in years. "Horse", "SGH", "VH", and "YCDM" are the America songs I hear most often in this (red) neck of the woods.

Message: 9557 Posted: Sat Jan 15 09:22:50 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: on another subject(skip if you wish)

I apologize for always posting something that has nothing to do with the current subject..but I guess that I am a lurker who every once in a while throws something different into the mix..America is my favorite band...however I am a sucker for all good music so here is some info on another singer who I am a big fan of..(I have no financial or other interest in this artist I would just like to share a talented singer songwriter with you all)I have mentioned the singer song writter Mary Coppin before on this folder....if I may I would like to share some good news regarding Mary..she is the Grand Prize Winner in the Country Category of THE JOHN LENNON
SONGWRITING CONTEST!!!!! On a suggestion from a friend Mary entered her song "Would You Could You" in the country catagory (Mary is not a country artist)and she won. Info on the contest can be found on the JLSC website at
and please visit her web site and say hello

Message: 9556 Posted: Fri Jan 14 17:25:03 2000 By: Beth
Subject: America Air Time

I heard Lonely People on our local radio yesterday! Cool, aint it!

Message: 9555 Posted: Fri Jan 14 16:21:50 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Another Title For The Box Set

I can't stop myself from thinking of titles for the up-coming box set. As Kevin said, since it's Rhino, there will probably be no "H" title. It's fun to think of names though and who really knows? Just for fun, here's another one. It's a bit of a play-on-words. Since it's a 3 CD box set, I submit the title: "Heavyset"

"Sister Golden Hair" is currently playing on the radio here. That's twice this week.

Message: 9554 Posted: Fri Jan 14 07:19:34 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: and the answer is...

Livin' A Lie
Composers: Beckley and cassidy
Year: 1976
LP: Gettin' It In The Street
Beckly on lead vocals and Cassicy on Piano and vocals.

And as Edward Norton from the Honeymooners said once:
"And there's plenty more where that came from..."

Message: 9553 Posted: Thu Jan 13 18:15:32 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: guess on Gerry's song

Shari, you're right about the title of the song ("Living A Lie") but Howard will have to tell you who wrote it and whether or not Gerry is playing the piano. Good guessing. Anybody want to take a guess at the year and the album title?

Message: 9552 Posted: Thu Jan 13 17:50:51 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: guess on Gerry's song

Okay, Howie-the-smartie-pants-
What I want to know is, who wrote the song, and is Gerry playing the piano?
Clearly David Cassidy. I'll guess the title as Living a Lie. Couldn't give you the name of ANY David Cassidy albums (even tho I had posters of him on my wall as a teen).
ShariL <><

Message: 9551 Posted: Thu Jan 13 17:32:18 2000 By: Beth
Subject: Box Set Design

Beech - I'm up for it if we decide to do a contest. Anyone else?

Message: 9550 Posted: Thu Jan 13 17:24:19 2000 By: Beth
Subject: got it, Steve

Thanks Steve, I did get your answer the first time. My browzer did a funky deal when I went to "refresh" and reposted my message. Oooopies!

Message: 9549 Posted: Thu Jan 13 17:21:08 2000 By: Beth
Subject: cool quotes & stuff

Robyn, always appreciate a good quote! I do several "readings" a day, first thing in the morning. My favorite guy is Stephen Covey. "You can't talk your way out of problems you behave yourself into" Thanks for identifying the author.

Message: 9548 Posted: Thu Jan 13 16:52:56 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Name for Box Set

So here's a brainstorm for the title of the box set. Fiona Apple recently released her second CD. In her infinite creativity, she decided to give her new CD a 95+ word title !! (I'm serious !! It's actually a poem she wrote). So how about America doing the same? You know, a 96+ word title for the box set,with every other word starting with an "H"...Relax folks, I'm only kidding. Just wanted to see if anyone was paying attention.
Two possible names for the upcoming box set come to mind. If it will stick to the "H" letter, then how about (it)HAPPENED? Yeah, I know, it's lame....If the "H" letter is not to be used, how about "TREASURE"? (As in Tall...) Just some food for thought.


Message: 9547 Posted: Thu Jan 13 15:30:39 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: one more time

....or "Hidden Talent"....

Message: 9546 Posted: Thu Jan 13 15:28:29 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: .more box set

.....or "Hangover"....

Message: 9545 Posted: Thu Jan 13 15:21:17 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: new box set

maybe a name like "Highway" would fit the new box set or maybe just "Hot"..........great to hear the news of a box set in the works...

Message: 9544 Posted: Thu Jan 13 13:34:24 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Why Not Go Man Go?

It depends on just how different the remixes are. I enjoy listening to alternate versions, that give a song a different twist. I think perhaps (I'm not a mind reader so I really don't know) Gerry really believes in the VGG material. And maybe he is just not willing to give up on it, but wants to give it another shot at catching somebodies' attention. I personally think VGG is probably his finest work period (including his America stuff). If it had been released and promoted by a major label, I really think it would have been a hit. As it is, I say why not Go Man Go?

Message: 9543 Posted: Thu Jan 13 12:19:52 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Beth

I forgot to attribute the quote. It's from Mildred Witte Stouven, from a book called Meditations for Women Who Do Too Much. The book has a series of single page Meditations, designed to slow us down and make us think. That is my favorite of the quotes. I always forget who said it and had to wait to get to work to look it up! Hope things are better.

Message: 9542 Posted: Thu Jan 13 12:12:01 2000 By: Joe B
Subject: Beckley/Cassidy song

I know! I know! But I'm not telling.

Joe B

Message: 9541 Posted: Thu Jan 13 11:54:54 2000 By: Tres'
Subject: Re: Why Go Man Go?


Message: 9540 Posted: Thu Jan 13 10:24:24 2000 By: Marshall
Subject: Why Go Man Go?

How much different or better do you think a re-mixed Van Go Gan will be? If it is not that different then why get it? Except to have a limited edition CD you can sell on e-bay in 5-10 years?
I guess I don't understand the motive or reason to issue/re-issue these songs in a limited edition format? Through Thoughtscape sounds there won't be a very wide distribution.

Message: 9539 Posted: Thu Jan 13 10:04:40 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: What Happened (answer for Beth)

Beth, I guess you missed my answer on message 9530 so I'll post it again for you. "What Happened" is an instrumental song from Van Go Gan (the 10th track). If you don't have Van Go Gan you can listen to the sound clips by going to the Van Go Gan album page on the America Fans web site.

Message: 9538 Posted: Thu Jan 13 10:00:45 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Passing the time

Mark and Johnny, you're right that it's Gerry singing with David Cassidy but you still haven't guessed the title. So, does anyone out there know the song title, the album title, and the year that it was released (it was obviously in the 70's)?

FYI: Gerry did 3 albums with David Cassidy in the 70's but this is the only song where Gerry actually sings the lead. That's what makes it unique.

Message: 9537 Posted: Thu Jan 13 09:40:19 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Box Set Title.

Since Rhino didn't do the H thing on Encore, I have two titles:

1. "Magic" A nod to America's last big hit, and also an appropriate discription of the music Dewey, Dan and Gerry have produced over the years.

2. "The World Don't Owe Me No Living." The first great lyric from the first great song on the first great album. This is the one that started it all.

As far as kmar's suggestion of "Healing" goes, I like that a lot. But I'd take it a step further. Sure, have the three of them get together for a new song on the box set, but then after that, release a Healing 2, Healing 3, Healing 4, all the way to Healing 10. These would be a series of albums released over the next decade or so years featuring new songs from all three together again. You know, just a short-term, maybe ten to twelve year commitment thing to celebrate the release of the box set.


Message: 9536 Posted: Thu Jan 13 09:19:35 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: BOX SET TITLE

I'm still going to go with my old favorite title

Message: 9535 Posted: Thu Jan 13 09:16:16 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Steve's Design?/Contests

Yeah, if memory serves correctly I had one HECK of a time trying to decide what I should do on that contest.....YOU (Steve) deserved the nod, but Mark's idea was OUTSTANDING (but so much so I forget exactly WHAT it was...rofl) so I was torn....sigh.

Do you think we have enough interest to try another designer "contest"? I'd be happy to try if you're amenible (sp?)!!!!!!!!!! I think this time I'd DRAW my pix.....lolololololol (C=

Message: 9534 Posted: Thu Jan 13 07:58:56 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Mystery Song and Box Set Title

I agree with Mark that it's Gerry and David Cassidy. My guess is the song is called, "Walking A Tightrope". I think it's a great song, naturally. Thanks Howard for passing it on to Steve. Steve, thanks for passing it on to us.

I've amended my two titles for the box set. I'm changing it from "Hatbox" to "HOTBOX" (there is such a word, believe it or not) and "Heaven Sent" to "HEAVEN SCENT".

Message: 9533 Posted: Thu Jan 13 07:52:56 2000 By: Beth
Subject: Robyn, Andy, All Thanks

How Enlightening!! Thanks for the insight. Andy, thank you.
Where is What Happened? What CD? I've totally missed it.

Message: 9532 Posted: Thu Jan 13 07:32:20 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Passing the time

Sounds like David Cassidy singing, but I really couldn't tell anything more than that.

Message: 9531 Posted: Wed Jan 12 23:25:50 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Passing the time

OK, so we have a remixed version of Van Go Gan (Go Man Go) coming out in 8 weeks or so and a 3-CD box set coming out this summer. So what do we do to pass the time between now and then. Our good friend Howard Lieboff sent me a little game for you all to play. Click here to listen to a RealAudio soundclip of a Gerry Beckley song unearthed. Gerry sings it on somebody else's LP. Try to guess the title of the song, the artist whose album he sings it on, and the title of the album. For bonus points, guess the year that it came out. Good luck to all of you and thanks to Howie for unearthing this rare song.

Message: 9530 Posted: Wed Jan 12 23:21:23 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Robyn, Andy, All Thanks

Beth, "What Happened" is an instrumental song from Van Go Gan (the 10th track).

Message: 9529 Posted: Wed Jan 12 21:47:37 2000 By: kmar

How about "HEALING", and the three gentlemen record at least one new song.

Message: 9528 Posted: Wed Jan 12 21:26:11 2000 By: Beth
Subject: Robyn, Andy, All Thanks

How Enlightening!! Thanks for the insight. Andy, thank you.
Where is What Happened? What CD? I've totally missed it.

Message: 9527 Posted: Wed Jan 12 21:11:54 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: What happened and to Beth

I agree. "What Happened" is one of my favorite pieces from VGG. Recently, a friend caught me "dancing" to it while waiting for the subway ( me and my two left feet!) She sort of smirked at me. Wordlessly, I place my headphones on her ears. SHE STARTED DANCING! Can't help it. It's infectious!

Beth. A clay pot sitting in the sun will always be a clay pot. It takes the white hot heat of the funace to make it porcelin. I am certain your son will learn and grow. Hang tough, girlfriend.

Message: 9526 Posted: Wed Jan 12 20:08:08 2000 By: Bones
Subject: What Happened?

I really hope that "What Happened" makes it on GO Man Go and that another 60 secords or so is added to the song. A great song from an awesome CD. PLEASE HEAR MY CRY MR. BECKLEY!!!!!!!!!!

Message: 9525 Posted: Wed Jan 12 19:56:50 2000 By: Alan Wind
Subject: You Can Do Magic

One early Sunday morning I was listening to You Can Do Magic.This was the America CD from Holland(1996).I was looking at the rather strange cover.Gerry is holding a manhole cover with an arrow pointing at Dan Peek? while Dewey is squating with his tongue out. I went out for a walk kind of daydreaming still trying to wake up.I walked out of my subdivision round the bend and down another sidewalk and almost believe it or not fell down an exposed manhole.Somebody must have removed it as a prank.I went back home and I related the story to my friend. We went back and replaced the manhole cover. There is magic out there.

Message: 9524 Posted: Wed Jan 12 19:30:59 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Go Box Set Go!

While I'm thrilled beyond words over an America Box-set, Your son's situation (and yours by extension) is in my thoughts. :(


Message: 9523 Posted: Wed Jan 12 18:49:58 2000 By: Beth
Subject: Go Box Set Go!

Like Virginia, I've been lurking but not speaking here for way too long. Hi Folks!! Wonderful news of a box set coming for Y2K Summer!! Up to me, I'd call it "HatTrick II" In our northwoods, we play a little hockey. Three goals = Hatrick. Three CD set by America = Three Goals for Us! HatTrick II.

Steve, enjoyed browsing your creativity....If it were me, I would mix up the songs a bunch. Early song, followed by later song, followed by mid-way song...Fun to hear the contrast/sameness of their music.

Life has been way too deep in the Reality zone for me lately. Pray for my 14 year-old son. Flunked his first drug test last weekend, flunking Freshman year big time. NOT GOOD!! We do the best we can, but it doesn't feel like its enough. Anyhoo. Glad for the great news here!
Keep well,

Message: 9522 Posted: Wed Jan 12 14:09:27 2000 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Box Set Title?

Oh I almost forgot my suggestion for the Box Set Title: "HISTORY;REVISITED"

Message: 9521 Posted: Wed Jan 12 14:05:03 2000 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Box Set Title?

Well I just got around to ordering the Van Go Gan cd. and while I was at it I ordered the Go Man Go cd. Its amazing what talk of a box set by America will prompt me to do. Hope I'm not disappointed but I'm not too worried! The lady I talked to on the phone from Thoughtscape said the box will have material from pre-America days but other than that she wasn't certain what else. I just want to say thanks to everyone on this site for some thought provoking conversation and most of all the up to the minute news from a great band. Back to the shadows, Dan

Message: 9520 Posted: Wed Jan 12 08:21:16 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Box Set Title?

Here's my suggestion for the title of the upcoming box set:

"HEAVEN SENT" (because it is as if) or "HATBOX" (because it's the only word that I can think of that starts with an "H" and has the word "box" in it).

Message: 9519 Posted: Tue Jan 11 23:00:43 2000 By: Virginia
Subject: Re: Late Breaking News

I've become the queen of the lurkers the last few months, but this is enough to bring even me out of hiding. This is such great news. I'll be calling Scott first thing in the morning for my Go Man Go order. The Rhino box set sounds too good to be true. Just what we've been yammering for. Can't wait!! Thanks for the good news, Steve!

Message: 9518 Posted: Tue Jan 11 22:53:57 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: Go Man Go! (& everything else!)

When I seen the message on Dan's site about the box set, couldn't really believe it was legit, now that you confirmed it, well....YEA HAH! I just got off of work, so will be ordering GMG first thing in the morning!! THANX AGAIN STEVE, for the great updated info you give on your website, makes me glad I got a computer!!!!

Message: 9517 Posted: Tue Jan 11 20:51:24 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: re: new cd

Jeff, I agree, Thoughtscape is a class act, very professional. I suspect that is why they have exclusive rights to Gerry's releases. The woman I talked to said about eight weeks till it's ready I CAN'T WAIT THAT LONG!!!!!

The box set from Rhino sounds great too. Will we finally hear the ever elusive "Norman"? I can only hope. I remember hearing it performed live aeons ago. I really liked it!( Read Norman Bel Geddes' book "Miracle in the Evening"--Outstanding!)

Message: 9516 Posted: Tue Jan 11 20:18:55 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: re: new cd

Roybn, everytime that I've called Thoughtscape Sounds they've been polite and very accommodating.

I've always liked different versions of the same songs (especially by the same artist)...and now thanks to Gerry Beckley some are on the way.


Message: 9515 Posted: Tue Jan 11 20:17:11 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: New cd.

Just too cool. Or as my kids say, "Sweet". Unfortunately it's 6:15 pm Pacific time so I'll have to wait until tomorrow to order mine.

Message: 9514 Posted: Tue Jan 11 19:41:33 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: New cd.

ME TOO!!!!! Thanks to the nice helpful folks at Thoughtscape! I called at 4:55 Pacific Time and couldn't believe they were still there. the woman i talked to laughed when I said I wanted to order the new Gerry Beckley and said "Go Man Go" before I could name it. Guess we are flodding them with requests! Steve, Thanks for the first good news I have had this week, a bright spot in an otherwise dismal (so far) year!

Message: 9513 Posted: Tue Jan 11 18:35:33 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: New cd.

Got mine ordered! Thanks Steve.

Message: 9513 Posted: Tue Jan 11 17:52:00 2000 By: Tres'
Subject: GMG a/k/a VGG

GOT IT ORDERED!!!! YEA!!!!! Life is way too grand @ the moment. Thanks to Steve and to Scott for brightening the New Year for many of us! I've been having major America withdrawls since I haven't seen them since last year - feels like a whole decade!!!sThis was just the attitude adjustment I needed. Thanks.

Message: 9511 Posted: Tue Jan 11 17:26:40 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Go Man Go.

Let's see. I bought the original Van Go Gan. I bought the new Van Go Gan. Does anyone really think I'm going to plunk down 20 bucks for the same songs, just remixed? Hell, yes I will. I'm calling right now to place my order. Maybe Gerry should just garnish my wages. It will be a lot easier on me.


P.S. Okay, Rhino is releasing the box set. Lamm/Beckley/Wilson is coming out soon. Gerry is re-releasing Van Go Gan as Go Man Go. I just want to know one thing: What's the new and exciting news from Oxygen?

Message: 9510 Posted: Tue Jan 11 17:20:43 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Steve's Design

Johnny, the contest was to design or give an idea for a box set. I created my design to show people an example but maybe it scared everyone away. The only other person to do anything with it was Mark Cole who gave some kind of a suggestion to Tery (I don't remember what the suggestion was) so he was declared the winner.

Message: 9509 Posted: Tue Jan 11 16:21:37 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Late Breaking News

A 3 CD America box set??????? YAAAAHHOOO !!!!! I'm so happy, I can't even see straight!!!!!! I think I'll read over your post again just to make sure that I wasn't hallucinating. Anyway, THANKS !!!!!!


Message: 9508 Posted: Tue Jan 11 15:26:48 2000 By: gary
Subject: Re: Wow! and Yee-ha!

Wow and Yeeeeeeeeeeeeee-haaaaaaaaaaa seconded!

What a way to start the new milleneum! New America music! What could be better? (well, maybe a new live album...sorry Mark, I couldn't resist). The "Go Man Go" sounds really exciting. I will definitely call Scott today and get mine on order. Ok Steve, you've gone this far, go ahead and finish the job by finding out for us all just exactly what songs will be on this new box set. Maybe somebody can squeeze some info. out of Gerry during the upcoming California shows. Hey Jim, this is right up your alley! How 'bout doing a little detective work and letting your buddies in on the scoop? (haha). Yea, yea I know, curiosity killed the cat but summer is a long way off.

Gary H

Message: 9507 Posted: Tue Jan 11 15:17:52 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Steve's Design

Very nice job, Steve. For those of us who weren't online in '97, what was the title of the winning cover and do you have a photo of it?

Message: 9506 Posted: Tue Jan 11 14:57:12 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Wow! and Yee-ha!

Johnny, I can't pass up this opportunity to show off the (imaginary) 4-CD box set that I created in 1997 when Tery Holly was having a little contest. You can see my vision of what the box set would look like by clicking on this title: High Time. When I created the CD cover I figured it was high time we had a box set. I think we can probably come up with a better name than that, but you might enjoy seeing what I did three years ago.

Message: 9505 Posted: Tue Jan 11 14:37:38 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Wow! and Yee-ha!

Now that's EXCITING!!! Man Oh Man..."Go Man Go" name. Plus the box set with new songs! Anyone care to name the 3-CD box set starting with the letter, "H"?

Message: 9504 Posted: Tue Jan 11 14:12:53 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Late Breaking News

All of this talk about a 3 CD box set has stirred up quite a bit of activity on the folder. I'll say more about that below. But first of all, Gerry called Scott at Thoughtscape Sounds a few minutes ago and told him that a new album will be available around March called Go Man Go. It will contain 8 to 10 of the songs on the original release of Van Go Gan but they are being remixed by none other than Andrew Gold. We were told late last year that a "Goodbye Highway" remix would be coming out and this is where it will be released. Scott says the pricing for Go Man Go will be about the same as Van Go Gan (about $18.99) although it could end up being a little less. It will be a limited edition release with about 1000 copies being pressed. Scott says that he'll begin taking orders immediately from America Fans who read about it here even though it won't be posted on his web site until later next week.

As if that weren't enough to get your blood flowing, here's the new and exciting news that was also promised to us last year. Gerry confirmed that Rhino Records is indeed creating a 3 CD America box set which will most likely be released this summer. The box set will contain many unreleased songs and demo versions dating back to the recording sessions before their first album was released all the way to their release of Human Nature. It's basically a full career retrospective from their beginnings to the present day. Since it is being released on a major label, it will be available in all the major outlets but Scott says he'll make it available for America fans who want to get it from him and he'll continue to feed us the information that he has about it. Thanks Scott!

Thanks too, to Gerry and everyone else who has worked so hard to pull this off. By the way, I'm expecting some information about the Beckley/Lamm/Wilson CD in the near future so stay tuned.


Message: 9503 Posted: Tue Jan 11 11:42:38 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: The Box Set

I am hopeful, that IF it is in fact true, that they will include some previously unreleased material from the archives as well as alternate versions. If it turns out to be just another compilation, then why bother. But you know that WB and Capitol probably have atleast a half dozen or so songs in the archives that never saw the light of day on an album, like the fabled "Norman", "By The Ocean", and the other two songs that were recorded during the HWNN/California sessions.

Message: 9502 Posted: Tue Jan 11 11:35:01 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: The Box Set

While I agree, Johnny, that new material would of course be preferable, you know as well as I do that we will all go out and buy it. Gotta have SGH, HWNN, VH, etc on just one more album. (Think I have 'em on 6 or 7 as it is) Hopefully they will put some alternate versions of the old stand-bys (just acoustic guitars and vocals, perhaps? or maybe the dance mix of Horse). J.

Message: 9501 Posted: Tue Jan 11 10:31:13 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: The Box Set

If the 3-CD Box Set is true, honestly, I'm not excited unless it contains some new songs.

Message: 9500 Posted: Tue Jan 11 10:15:01 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: thanks John

thanks John for mentioning the new Michael Tomlinson CD...I plan on ordering my copy you know this is Michael's second acoustic CD...the first was great and I am sure this one will be just as good...and if you can catch Michael in concert you will not be sorry...great music (and he is an America fan)

Message: 9499 Posted: Tue Jan 11 09:01:36 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Feeling Lucky Punk?

Let me say this (only We all are EXTREMELY lucky. Know why? Because this board is universally a friendly and mind expanding experience. The basic feeling here is acceptence. I don't know if any of you have "tried" other boards, but YIKES. If you aren't in the click, FERgit it! I recently went into another board on the net and was basically assailed by 30 year old "haven't grown up yet" groupies......whew. What ever happened to appreciating the MUSIC? Guess I'm just not into the whole "fan idolation" thing........

Well, thanks for the opportunity to vent. That's ANOTHER reason why this board is so REFRESHING........


Message: 9498 Posted: Tue Jan 11 08:53:50 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Box set.

Come on, summer. Get here fast.


Message: 9497 Posted: Tue Jan 11 07:55:47 2000 By: Mark
Subject: America Box Set in the works?????

This is what the previous post was refering to. It was posted to the guest book on Dan's home page. I hope it is for real!

"Dear Dan, I am currently writing the liner notes for a 3-CD America box set, to be released this summer by Rhino Records. I will be speaking to Gerry and Dewey for these notes, and I would very much like to interview you by phone as well. I'm not sure that the phone number in the US ... is still good, so I hope this message reaches you. Please get in touch with me this week if you can ... Let me know what would be a good time to call you -- I'd like to talk about the songs you wrote and sang lead on with America. Hope to hear from you soon,"

Message: 9496 Posted: Tue Jan 11 01:41:32 2000 By: Spurs
Subject: Dans Page, Oxygen Records

Hello all,a happy and healthy new year to everyone.Unfortunately I missed the guys in Melbourne due to illness and circumstance,but how lucky we were to have Margaret reporting for us.What exciting news from Dans web page,hope it's for real.Furthermore Oxygen have promised some exciting things in the pipeline,I think this century has kicked off rather well.By the way whatever happened to the Health Guru,not unwell I hope.

Message: 9495 Posted: Mon Jan 10 23:17:35 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: re: Ventura Highway

While there are so many (almost all in fact) songs by America that when you hear them, especially when you are not expecting them (on the radio, for instance) get the 'ol heart pumping just a little bit stronger, I'd have to agree that Ventura Highway comes out on top. A real uplifting gem.

And speaking of music that just brings a smile to the face, Michael Tomlinson, an artist out of Seattle who has been mentioned here before, has a new acoustic cd out. Only available through his web site but great tunes and well worth it. Highly recommend it. (I don't even have shares in his company).

Message: 9494 Posted: Mon Jan 10 22:13:42 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: Dan's site

Anybody read Dan's Guestbook lately? It might be of some interest, hope it's true.

Message: 9493 Posted: Mon Jan 10 18:58:03 2000 By: Janice
Subject: re: Ventura Highway

Great song..and even better in person..did we discuss what "alligator lizards" are yet? We probably did. And speaking of lizards..(and in keeping with my habit of adding a personal anecdote..), my son's Egyptian lizard died..very rare breed, and hard to emulate his natural habitat..wait, there is a reason I am mentioning this. (His name was King Tutt). Well, of course, this necessitated a trip yesterday to get him a new lizard, and a Chinese Water Dragon was decided upon..Ronnie named him Lee..sorry now share a name with our lizard, who from what I understand will grow about as tall as you. Wonderful. Ok, back to uplifting songs.

Message: 9492 Posted: Mon Jan 10 16:48:04 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Ventura Highway.

Right you are Kevin. Songs don't have to be from our youth to stick with us, or be considered a classic. Certainly, I consider "Pages" to be a classic. Is it a coincidence that the Los Angeles Public Library had an ad campaign a few seasons back that said " Step inside the Los Angeles Public Library" ? I THINK NOT! Someone here must have been in tune!!!!!

Message: 9491 Posted: Mon Jan 10 16:44:55 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: The Song That Does It For Me

The song that always lifts my spirit is "Sister Golden Hair".

A song that I think has a grandiose quality similar to Whitney Houston's "One Moment In Time" and Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On" is Dewey and Gerry's "Last Two To Dance". I think it's very uplifting!

Message: 9490 Posted: Mon Jan 10 14:27:45 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Ventura Highway.

Obviously there are so many America songs that would classify as classics to everybody on this chat folder. Pretty much everything Dewey has written, to me.

But if I had to pick out one, I'd say there's no possible way for me to hear Ventura Highway and not be in a better mood instantly. Everything happy is in Ventura Highway. Followed very closely with Cornwall Blank.

I don't know what makes a song resonate so strongly with certain people, but I wonder if it has to do with the stage of your life you're in.

I don't think it's only songs from your youth. For instance, a recent song that I consider a "classic" is Dan Peek's "Call On Me" from PEACE. Something about that song just found a few brain cells in my head and decided to stick to them.


Message: 9489 Posted: Mon Jan 10 13:14:48 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: A Horse With No Name-Robyn

<<Good question Beechlady.>>


Of all the America songs I listen to, Till The Sun Comes Up Again, Bell Tree and Never Found The Time are the 3 that wriggle my hackles. Dunno why, I'm thinking it has to do with the Keys their written in...
I must resonate to

Message: 9488 Posted: Mon Jan 10 11:22:50 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: It's All A Matter Of...

Adding this to my previous message: It's all a matter of a person's "PERSPECTIVE".

Message: 9487 Posted: Mon Jan 10 11:13:09 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Aussie Variations And A Lesson Learned

Margaret's comments about Aussie spelling of words and variations reminds me of the time my mom and I debated how many pounds a ton is. She insisted that it's 1000 pounds. I, of course, said she was absolutely wrong; it's no doubt 2000 pounds. I went to the encyclopedia to prove to her that she was wrong. Much to my astonishment, she wasn't wrong. Well, actually, we were both right. A British ton is 1000 pounds. Because she went to school in Hong Kong which was under British rule it the time, she was taught that the weight of a ton is 1000 pounds. From that incident, I learned to not dismiss my mom's thoughts quite so quickly when I think I'm so right. It was a good lesson learned!

Message: 9486 Posted: Sun Jan 09 23:12:03 2000 By: Margaret
Subject: Australian Shows Comments

Thanks for all the positive comments about the Australian shows which rank right up there with our most memorable moments.
I wanted to record the significance of this tour in terms of changing from the 1900s to 2000, the elation we were experiencing as well as some of the local colour. This is Aussie spelling. I didn't realize how many variations we have until I was conscious of writing for a mainly American audience. The main ones I have encountered are with or/our (harbour, splendour, favourite), er/re (centre, theatre,kilometre) and the way we write dates. We saw America at Star City on 3/1/2000 i.e. on the third day of the first month. I guess it's like variations in pronunciation.
After our wonderful week, reality has kicked back in with all sorts of domestic and familial routines and dramas. At least I'm still on holidays.
We are so grateful to have had the thrill of this recent tour and hope that it won't be too long before it can be repeated.

Message: 9485 Posted: Sun Jan 09 22:41:18 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: A Horse With No Name

Also HORSE W/NO NAME was one of those songs that displayed an extremely creative musical aspect by virtue of the rhythm's & dark warmth that DEWEY created along w/haunting word images, all on 6 & 12 string acoustic guitars - no orchestra, no classical strings. DEWEY's style was later copied by many, but there is only one DEWEY BUNNELL & one AMERICA sound.

Message: 9484 Posted: Sun Jan 09 20:06:09 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: A Horse With No Name

I think part of the reason that HWNN was such a big hit, is that it has a great rythm and bass line. That made it easy to tap your toes or dance to. How many folk rock songs of that period were really easy to dance to?

Message: 9483 Posted: Sun Jan 09 19:42:11 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: Robyn

I e-mailed a karaoke store earlier today and thier response was...All tapes in thier database were lead vocals deleted. However, if there were background vocals on the original, there will be background vocals on the karaoke tape.

As I said before.. I just thought it would be neat to hear the songs w/o vocals. I enjoy the instrumentation as much as the singing. I like the bands (America) style of playing. For instance, the nylon string guitar on "Pages".

Believe me, my intentions are'nt to sing karaoke...but I sure do sing around the house. LOL! Much to the chagrin of my Daughters.


Message: 9482 Posted: Sun Jan 09 18:56:39 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: A Horse With No Name

I have two that come to mind. One is an America song "Another Try". I can relate to that song, as I beleieve I have explained before, at the time the album came out, my situation was very similar. It never fails to make me cry ( crying is good and healthy)

Another song I heard today for the first time in a long time, James Taylor's "Fire and Rain" Due to recent events in my life, the line " I always thought that I'd see you again" touched a nerve and for the umpteeth time this week broke down in tears. Like I said, crying is good, healthy.

There are many other songs that make me feel free spirited, make me laugh or feel like taking my two left feet dancing.

Good question Beechlady.

Message: 9481 Posted: Sun Jan 09 17:20:50 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Welcome Back and "From The Moving Train"

A belated "Welcome Back" to the States to our Homecoming Men!

To Dewey and Gerry: I believe it's been six months since the last posting to "From The Moving Train". With a short break in the touring schedule, is it possible to let us know how things are going especially with the successful trip to Australia? Any messages from either of you are always appreciated!!

To Margaret: My belated "thank you" for the wonderful reviews that you provided us especially when you were so tired from the trips. Plus, thanks for asking Gerry if he wanted to relay a message to us fans. That was smart thinking!

Message: 9480 Posted: Sun Jan 09 13:38:52 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: re: karaoke

you've got me Jeff. If I see my local Karaoke people, I will ask them.

Message: 9479 Posted: Sun Jan 09 08:30:47 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Eagles?

>>This will be the trend of the future, but will only work with bands with clout. There might be a chance that other artists could ride the Eagles coattails, but only if the Eagles choose to let that happen.<<

I disagree with the "clout" thing.....if you have good MARKETING skills (or employ someone who HAS them) ANYTHING is possible! There are A LOT of smaller but fairly *well known* artists out there that are doing the same thing. One example is John Taylor (formerly of Duran Duran) who has totally turned his sound into something different. It seems he's doing a 'brisk' business on his site!
Personally I think it's a combo of internet, advertising (other media) and fan word of mouth!

Message: 9478 Posted: Sun Jan 09 08:20:44 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: A Horse With No Name

Cool post, Steve!
Isn't it interesting how certain songs can effect (or affect) you? I'd be willing to bet EVERYONE has one of them-possibly two, maybe more. I wonder WHAT in the psyche of us is it that GRABS a hold of a tune and clutches it to death....I think it'd be FASCINATING to find out!!!! I'm sure we could all take our favorite songs and break them down physically into the components that "do it" for us, but, well,,,,,it's the whole subjective thing that has my attention for the day!!!!

Pondering in


Message: 9477 Posted: Sat Jan 08 18:03:54 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: re: karaoke

Robyn, as far as the deleted vocals go..I'll probably take a chance and buy one of the tapes I found online. It was something around $12.98. My guess is that some tapes/cd's are vocal deleted and some are not. maybe the ones that have vocals can be taken out by the karaoke equipment?


Message: 9476 Posted: Sat Jan 08 17:47:18 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: "Ventura Highway"

Of all of America's songs, "Ventura Highway" has probably the most catchy name of all. California travel guides and websites have alluded to the song title when describing roads like the PCH or US 101. Last year, when Jesse Ventura won the governor's race in Minnesota, legislators were thinking a renaming a Minnesota freeway "Ventura Highway" in his honor. Now Wall Street has gotten into the act. I was browsing through a financial journal recently advertising a new venture capital company called "". What will they think of next? :)


Message: 9475 Posted: Sat Jan 08 17:10:43 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: karaoke

Although as previously noted, I have a voice that could peel paint, my dd and I often like to try Karaoke. The local people have a version of the Beach Boys "Barbar Ann" that is a vocals deleted version that is from the "Beach Party Album" ( it includes someon in the background saying "Scratch it, Carl, Scratch it" So it really depends. I have never tried any of the America songs I have seen.

Message: 9474 Posted: Sat Jan 08 16:12:55 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: re: karaoke

Andy, I've always liked variations of my favorite songs and I thought it would be neat to have instrumental versions of some America songs.

I would bet that you're right about the original artist playing the songs and getting other than the mainline hits.

In my looking around karaoke sites I found..."Horse", "Magic", "Moving Train", "Ventura Hwy.", "Don't cross the river", "Calif. Dreamin'", "Lonely people", "Tin man", "Sister golden hair", and "Daisy Jane".

Andy, I know that I'm coming out of left field sometimes....medleys, instrumentals, etc. ...can't help it. LOL!

Jeff B.

Message: 9473 Posted: Sat Jan 08 15:09:18 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: karaoke

I have no experience with karaoke because it caters to my very worst quality: my voice. (yes, it's the nail across the chalk board sound). However, from hearing karaoke in the past, I am almost positive that the music is almost never done by the original artists. Even if it were, remember that karaoke never gets too in depth with an artist's material. For America fans, that usually means another zillion reditions of Horse with No Name, and Sister Golden Hair. All fine, except that it's not America playing the instruments, and it's not America singing. And after those two songs, what about stuff like Sgt. Darkness, Tall Treasure, Rainbow Song, Wind Wave....etc....? Oh well, that's just me ranting again, never


Message: 9472 Posted: Sat Jan 08 14:29:12 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: karaoke

Can anyone answer this question?...When you buy a karaoke tape, are the vocals deleted and what you're getting are just the instrumental parts? Silly question...Huh?

If in fact the vocals are deleted then I would have instrumental versions of some of my favorite songs...namely Americas.

If some one could answer this question I'd appreciate it.

Jeff B.

Message: 9471 Posted: Sat Jan 08 12:55:14 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: America in Cleveland, Ohio. . .

Good advice, Chris. That goes for other areas of the country (and world) as well. If the promoters know that the fans want a certain band, they'll do what they can to get them. Good luck!

Message: 9470 Posted: Sat Jan 08 11:30:34 2000 By: CJ
Subject: America in Cleveland, Ohio. . .

Well, the "powers that be" keep telling me that getting Gerry & Dewey (and Wood-Z, Brad, Willie, Pete & Bill) back to Cleveland after more than 3 years is a "promoter thing". Therefore, if you live in the general vicinity and would like to not have to drive for hours, the following is the e-mail for Belkin Productions - our concert promoter here in Cleveland - I've been e-mailing them but a little assistance would be great!!! E-mail away

Chris - Cleveland

Message: 9469 Posted: Fri Jan 07 22:43:08 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: America on video

Anyone wanting to see America on video might want to check out
He does have a America compile which has Harbor, but I really don't know if any of the others are on it, for I don't have this one (Yet!) A video that I do have (which I think is great!) is the America Live in Ecuador Sa, these are "bootlegs" & I'm not trying to endorse them in any way, I'm just a fan that enjoys seeing anything "AMERICA". Of course, if they ever come out w/a "offical" release, I'd be first in line to buy it.
Just thought some fans would like to know it's out there.
Also, I noticed they have a video of The Beatles on The Smothers Brothers show, I'd give an arm (& a leg!) to get ahold of a copy of a video when America was on there!
All 4 now, take care!

Message: 9468 Posted: Fri Jan 07 22:17:25 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Jan 21 concert

For those anywhere near San Diego, there was a concert added on Friday, Jan. 21, 8:00 pm at Viejas Casino east of San Diego. Tickets went on sale this morning. Details and links on the web page (thanks, Steve).
Wish I could be there, hope others of you can pick up the slack and fill this show with only two weeks warning. Really bummed that I'll miss that one, since it should be a long set and I'm sure Irvine will be the short set, since it's two shows.
ShariL <><

Message: 9467 Posted: Fri Jan 07 21:47:24 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: A Horse With No Name

I received the following message this evening and felt it was worth sharing with everyone, including Dewey and Gerry.

I guess I really couldn't characterize myself as an America fan per se, even though, I must say, I've enjoyed every song of theirs I've heard on some level or another. So why am I writing to the America Fan Club?

Because I was just listening once again to a song I'd always regarded as one of my very favorite songs of all time. And that would be "A Horse WIth No Name".

I hadn't heard it for, oh, probably several years, and upon listening to it today, it struck me: if anyone could create a more perfectly constructed song, I just couldn't conceive of it. It is just the perfect song. Thematically, musically, the performances -- it's just a little nugget of perfection in this ol' wreck of a world we have here.

It was such a well-crystallized realization that I had to send some kind of e-mail to Dewey, Gerry, and Dan just to thank them for giving us all this this wonderful gift. We listen to 200- and 300-year-old tunes from Mozart's "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik" and Tchaikovsky's "Nutcracker", and regard them as classics that have withstood the test of time. Why shouldn't "AHWNN" be just like that? I'd certainly put it in that category.

So to America, among all the other wonderful music you've created on our behalf, I especially thank you guys for this particular slice of heaven.

Message: 9466 Posted: Fri Jan 07 21:31:47 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Free Internet

You're right, Robyn, it's not connected in any way to our famous Matt's BluLight Studios.

By the way, I downloaded the bluelight software and installed it and it works great. It was easy to install and runs very fast. The only complaint that I have is that when you're using the service it has an ANNOYING box of advertisements that is ALWAYS displayed in the lower right hand corner of the screen. I could handle it for about 5 minutes and then I had to go back to my regular ISP. However, I'll keep it around in case I never need a backup Internet connection.

Message: 9465 Posted: Fri Jan 07 18:23:30 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Free Internet

And is in no way conncected to BluLight Sudios-- right, Steve ;)

Message: 9464 Posted: Fri Jan 07 18:11:20 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Free Internet

Thanks for the tip, Red Oak. I think I'll give it a shot and see how it works. For others who want to try it, I found that the link actually takes you to a different URL. Here's a direct link to it:

By the way, I'm not endorsing this service nor saying how good or bad it is. When something is free, there's usually a catch but it may be worth it. For example, Juno e-mail is free and I use it for all of my kids so they can have their own address. So this may prove to be worthwhile, too.

Message: 9463 Posted: Fri Jan 07 17:11:47 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: "Hope" Video

I viewed the "Hope" video after I posted my last message. I previously said I had the last half of "Hope". Unfortunately, it's more like the last quarter of the video. I said Dewey was wearing a dark vest. Boy, was I wrong. It was a light-colored vest over a dark turtleneck shirt. Dewey and Gerry were both wearing white tennis shoes. At the end of the video, Gerry has his left arm around Dewey's shoulders. Dewey pats Gerry's back several times with his right hand and keeps it there as they walk off together. The boy depicting Dewey pats the boy depicting Gerry once on the back as they too, walk away. They even matched the taller boy as Gerry and the other as Dewey. The boy as Gerry is a great match. I can imagine that Gerry looked just like him when Gerry was that age.

I noticed that part of the caption was incorrectly spelled. It spelled American Gramaphone, "American Grammaphone". I guess it's like me spelling Linda Ronstadt as Rondstat (LOL).

Message: 9462 Posted: Fri Jan 07 15:33:52 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Videos.

I'd love to have a copy of their videos. It shouldn't be that difficult to compile them as well as some concert footage, etc. into one package. I am sure that all these different record companies could get together and agree on the terms. Failing that, there must be some person here who has them.


Message: 9461 Posted: Fri Jan 07 14:51:52 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Videos.

Wouldn't it be cool if we could buy these America videos just like we can the CDs off the site?

I don't know if anyone has seen this, but Madonna has a greatest hits video out right now. It's a video tape of all her greatest videos. Great idea for her fans, of which I'm not one.


Message: 9460 Posted: Fri Jan 07 11:47:41 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Oops!

Should be: "It's actually a shot of the water reflecting his image as he's playing."

Message: 9459 Posted: Fri Jan 07 11:42:33 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Jackson Browne and the Eagles and America Videos.

Regarding the Eagles and Jackson Browne, I remember hearing during the New Year's Eve celebrations on television that the Eagles performed in California along with Jackson Browne and Linda Rondstat. The newsman said Browne and Rondstat were "okay" and that one of them seemed to rush through their performance but the Eagles were "great".

I was able to record the last half of both "You Can Do Magic" and "Hope". On the "YCDM" video, Gerry is on Dewey's right side which is unusual to see since he's usually on his left. The "Hope" video was done in black and white. Well, actually more brownish than black. It's the same color as on the "Hourglass" CD. In that video, for those that haven't seen it, Gerry and Dewey are standing and walking along the edge of a lake as they sing. The video goes back and forth between that scene and a scene of two boys playing baseball. One's pitching and the other's the batter. The boys seem to represent Gerry and Dewey. The pitcher appears to be Gerry. He's wearing wire-frame glasses like Gerry's and he's blonde-headed. The braces on his teeth are very noticable. The batter seems to be Dewey but he's a blonde. As the video ends, Gerry and Dewey's backs are to the camera and both walk away with their arm around each others shoulder or touching the others back. The boys walk away doing the same thing. You can see water on the playing field. It's a good match with the water on the lake. The portion of the video I was able to record is very cool. I noticed Dewey's hair was a bit longer than the photo on the "Hourglass" CD. Gerry was dressed in dark clothing. Dewey was wearing dark pants and a dark vest. I almost forgot...Woodz is shown playing the guitar on the video. It's actually a shot of the water reflection his image as his playing. Very, very cool!

Hey, "Sister Golden Hair" is playing on the radio as I end this message!

Message: 9458 Posted: Fri Jan 07 10:45:18 2000 By: red oak
Subject: Free Internet

I post this notice in the hopes that future web surfers will log onto this site and become fans of America. There is free internet service available thru the KMart website. Just log on to and click on free internet service, print out the instructions, de-install ur current ISP software and load the free software and u are on ur way to free internet service. This service seems to be no better or no worse than current ISP's but if u need just a bare-bones provider then this could be a no-brainer. Plus, it may cause the big ISP providers to lower their cost of providing internet service. Give it a try and see for yourself. If it works well, pass the info along to ur friends. Tx.

Message: 9457 Posted: Fri Jan 07 09:45:42 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: America Video

Steve, I believe that was for a commercial to promote
Human Nature and it aired on daytime network/cable tv.
I remember Karen showing me pics of it.

Message: 9456 Posted: Fri Jan 07 09:43:26 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: America Videos

I believe a "From A Moving Train" video was made but I don't know if it was ever released. If it was released, I've never seen it, but I know that Karen DiGesu talked to me about the making of the video and how great the guys were to work with. The filming took place on the east coast in the summer (in New Jersey, I think) and it was hot and humid. Karen said that even though the conditions were a little uncomfortable, the guys were real professionals (as always!).

Message: 9455 Posted: Fri Jan 07 09:06:12 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Horse Video

You mean from the Central Park Video/Laser disc,....?

Message: 9454 Posted: Fri Jan 07 07:52:01 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: America Videos

There was a HORSE WITH NO NAME video.


Message: 9453 Posted: Fri Jan 07 06:58:04 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: America Videos

Only 3 America Music Videos exist:
1) You can do magic
2) The Border
3) Hope

Are there anymore we don't know about???? Fess up!

Message: 9452 Posted: Fri Jan 07 05:08:32 2000 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: Re: MTV/VH1

An America video on MTV??? Seems kinda unlikely to me. Actually it seems MTV never shows videos anymore anyway. And I seldom see them on VH1 either...although I will admit to being hooked on the Behind the Music shows.

Jim...Erie, PA

Message: 9451 Posted: Thu Jan 06 20:31:38 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: MTV/VH1

I probably watch 8-10 hrs. of t.v. a week...T.L.C. discovery, that sort of thing. Anyway, I usually go through the channels when I first tune in and sometimes will stop on MTV or VH1 hoping to see an America video...I remember them being shown quite a few yrs. back but really don't have much faith in ever seeing them again. It seems that unless you have some kind of schtick or are acting in a way that is considered "cool" then good luck....

Just venting. Jeff B.

Message: 9450 Posted: Thu Jan 06 16:53:53 2000 By: dennis

I heard that jackson browne is getting together with the eagles...maybe on their new album?Like Music companies aren't greedy?i think recording artists doing their own recording companies is very cool and why not ,they work hard so they should get their rewards that sometimes doesn't happen when represented by large recording companies!!Too often artists have been denied their fair share by greedy recording companies.Rock On! love & Light, Dennis,Goldeneaglevideo

Message: 9449 Posted: Thu Jan 06 12:24:16 2000 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Eagles.

The Eagles are one of the few bands of any era that could make the internet work for them. This will be the trend of the future, but will only work with bands with clout. There might be a chance that other artists could ride the Eagles coattails, but only if the Eagles choose to let that happen. In order for the Eagles to continue with the number 1 selling album of all time(US sales only), the internet would be a natural to accomplish this. After all, the greed is out there for those who know how to be greedy!!!!

Message: 9448 Posted: Thu Jan 06 10:26:34 2000 By: Janice
Subject: re:Eagles

Interesting post Kevin..wasn't there recent talk about America doing the same thing using the Human Nature label? I wish Henley and the Eagles well..they have been one of my favorites for a long time. Iused to frequent their concerts quite often..and yes..they can still draw a crowd.

Message: 9447 Posted: Thu Jan 06 09:26:36 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Eagles.

Just read an article in the Dallas paper today about the Eagles. Seems they're going to get together in the fall to record a new album. But what's interesting is, since their record deal with Asylum has long expired, they're free agents, so to speak. Don Henley said they are thinking very seriously about forgoing the record label thing this time and recording on "Eagles Record Company" and hitting the internet for distribution. The Eagles are one of the few bands who with the marketing clout (their last album, "Hell Freezes Over" sold 10 million copies, so there's still a big audience for them) to try this. It will be interesting to see if they do it, and how it works for them. This seems to be the future for a lot of bands. Maybe bands like America won't have to suffer droughts like they did in the late 80s and much of the 90s searching for someone to sign them to a label. It's very encouraging. I hope it works for them.


Message: 9446 Posted: Wed Jan 05 23:04:49 2000 By: Janice
Subject: Thanks

I just wanted to thank whoever it was on this chat folder that sent me to Amazon to order the new Terence Boylan CD. It's great!

Message: 9445 Posted: Wed Jan 05 22:40:53 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Concert Reviews

My thoughts exactly Bones. Margaret, the details in your reviews really make the shows "Live" to me. Glad you had such a fabulous time. I am hoping ( after a well deserved rest) that they add a few more So Cal shows. I want my dd to be able to see them too ( it will be a while till she is 21- she's reverse that now)

New Year's has been weird. I got back to work to find that a co-worker had died ( on Mount Kilimanjaro, at the peak on NYE she collapsed and died- she was on her honeymoon) I was talking to a friend in our Security force about it, and he asked me if I were ok, and "did I have enough America music in my bag to get me home." Ah how wll they know me there!

Better Days, everyone

Message: 9444 Posted: Wed Jan 05 20:39:44 2000 By: Bones
Subject: Concert Reviews

It is really a joy to sit behind the computer every night and read the concert reviews from America fans around the world. What a GREAT!!!!! band and what a great group of loyal fans.

Message: 9443 Posted: Wed Jan 05 18:40:00 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Jan 24 concert

Hey, everybody!
If anyone was considering the Jan 24 show at Crazy Horse Steakhouse, I got some info.
They moved New Year's Eve into the Irvine Spectrum. The new venue seats 550. Front row tables for this concert are $46.00, and this does not include anything but the concert! The shows are at 6:30 pm and 9:15 pm, with doors opening one hour before.
At this price, I was able to call last night and get front row, Gerry's side, for the second show. Seemed a number of seats open at this price at this show. Not as many still left at the early show, apparently.
Seat further back, on "barstools" are $28.00. Box office person told me no seat is more than 50 feet away from the stage. Must be very long and narrrow.
Thanks for the reviews from "down under" to get us fired up. Loved your "pick" story, Margaret, since I have one, also. My friend said when I get another one I should have them drilled and made into earrings!
Happy New Year, fellow fans!
ShariL <><

Message: 9442 Posted: Wed Jan 05 16:04:34 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Thanks.

Thanks for the clarification, Mark and Steve, on the Dan Peek lyrics.


Message: 9441 Posted: Wed Jan 05 14:21:08 2000 By: Mark
Subject: On Wings Of Eagles

I just got Dan Peek's new single, On Wings Of Eagles, in the mail. It sounds great! It can be ordered from Dan's web page. I would highly recommend it!

Message: 9440 Posted: Wed Jan 05 14:14:58 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: re: Steve, America Concerts

Morey Management is supposed to be sending me an updated list and I'll post it just as soon as I get it. I'll send them a little reminder today. In the meantime, if any of you hear of a concert in your area, let me know about it (or simply post it here) and I'll add it to the list.

Message: 9439 Posted: Wed Jan 05 13:28:58 2000 By: Janice
Subject: re: Steve, America Concerts tore that question right off my tongue..(then again, perhaps they are planning breaks between Feb. and June and again between Aug. and Dec...Lord knows they deserve it!)Everyone off to a great NEW YEAR?????????? Thanks again for the great reviews Margaret..

Message: 9438 Posted: Wed Jan 05 11:26:40 2000 By: Pete
Subject: Steve, America Concerts

Steve, just wondering when will the full concert list start coming out.

Message: 9437 Posted: Wed Jan 05 11:17:24 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Central Coast

Thanks, Margaret, for the fantastic review. It sounds like everyone had a great time (including the stage wandering lady). I'm glad you got to meet Rick and that you found that elusive pick. You're right about Gerry being a good shot. I remember one show when I was several rows back and he flung his pick at me and it hit me right in the chest. I guess he's good at it after 30 years or so of practice.

We're glad the guys got to go down under and share their music with you, but we're also glad to have them back. Welcome back guys and enjoy some well-deserved rest before the next shows begin!

Message: 9436 Posted: Wed Jan 05 10:12:00 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Huh?

It's from the Bible, Philippians 4:8 "... whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely ... think on these things."

Message: 9435 Posted: Wed Jan 05 10:11:54 2000 By: Margaret
Subject: Central Coast

It looked like a capacity crowd at the Central Coast Leagues Club Auditorium for the 5th of January concert. This is at Gosford which is up the freeway, north of Sydney There appeared to be a similar number to Star City on Monday night. They were rowdy but appreciative.
Importantly, Dewey is well again. Even when he was so sick on Monday, the audience was unaware of it.
They were really relaxed and seemed to be having a lot of fun. From our previous experiences, this is emerging as a pattern from closing shows.
Our seats were fabulous, right in the very front, up against the stage and under Gerry's feet ,which were clad in joggers. (This is a reference to our first conversation, some years back, when he said people used to make frequent comments about their shoes in reviews.)
There were numerous idiosyncrasies to this show. A woman wandered onto the stage on the side where Michael and Gerry were playing. Gerry was dumbfounded, pointed at her, gave us a grin and kept playing, never missing a beat. When he was about to start the next song, at the keyboard, he commented that they needed to double the security, made reference to the wild crowd and asked if the Air Supply riot was remembered. All this was said with great humour.
Another unusual incident occurred within the first few minutes. The guy who was sitting beside me bent over politely and asked if my name was Margaret. It was Rick who has also been writing about the Australian shows.
The show was 75 minutes long with the same songs as NYE except for the following. Three Roses came between Mirror to Mirror and I Need You and from the encore, Everyone I Meet is From California was omitted.
Because of our location I was under strict instructions to be low-key so that I" wouldn't put them off", to quote my husband. As the energy built in the show I couldn't resist singing along, so I hope it wasn't too distracting.
When they were about to leave Gerry said they had to go back to the hotel via Harry's Cafe de Wheels, a Sydney institution on the Woolloomooloo waterfront, noted for the Aussie gastronmic treats, Pie Floaters. Our last overseas guests refused to eat Meat Pies. (There are pies and pies!)
I think that Dewey picked the right word for us when he was describing their feelings about tonight.Bittersweet. We were quite sad that it was all finishing so soon after it began and yet we had an overwhelming sense of joy about our experiences of the last few days.
Gerry threw me the last pick and as I wanted to keep watching them, I decided to get it off the ground when they left. When we went looking, it was nowhere to be found. There are picks and picks that are thrown to you, so this was disappointing. Relating this to the kids when we got home, my husband suggested I look in my bag and there it was. Great throw!
Besides the woman who made it onto the stage, there was another rather inebriated and aggressive one who harrassed me after the show. Everything turned out OK but it makes you stop and think about the hazards of going to an America concert! Everyone else we spoke to was really friendly.
We wish the band and crew a safe journey home and urge them to return soon. Special thanks to everyone who was so kind to us and provided us with so many wonderful memories.

Message: 9434 Posted: Wed Jan 05 10:09:41 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Huh?

I always thought the lyrics were as follows (but I could be wrong):

Whatsoever things are pure
Whastsoever things are lovely

I'll drop Dan's brother a line and see if he can clear it up.

Message: 9433 Posted: Wed Jan 05 08:56:13 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Huh?

Does anyone know what Dan Peek is singing in his song, "Pure And Lovely" from his new masterpiece Bodden Town? I've listened to that song a million and a half times and I can't make out what he's singing. Sometimes it sounds like "What's a little thing called pure/what's a little thing called lovely" Or "Whatsoever thing called pure/whatsoever thing called lovely" Or "Watching everything is pure/watching everything is lovely..." Does anyone know what he's saying? Oh, by the way, happy holidays to everyone.


Message: 9432 Posted: Tue Jan 04 23:04:53 2000 By: TerryT
Subject: Re: Living in a fantasy

At least hit the snooze button a few times!

Message: 9431 Posted: Tue Jan 04 18:49:24 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Living in a fantasy

nice set list Rick. Of course, IMHO, ANY songs from America in ANY order make up a fine set! Enjoy the show, you lucky dog!

Message: 9430 Posted: Tue Jan 04 18:25:34 2000 By: rick
Subject: Living in a fantasy

It's about 10 hours to showtime.I was walking down the beach earlier when i kicked a bottle and out popped a genie.Unfortunatly she looked more like George Costanza's mother than Barbara Eden but that didn't matter because she was very friendly.She said i could pick the song list for tonight's show so in order it goes
molten love/now she's gone/whole wide world/the border/only game in town/don't cross the river/monster/no fortune/wind wave/never be lonely/all around/three roses/bell tree/baby it's up to you/midnight/people in the valley/submarine ladies/rainbow song/sister golden hair
encore daisy jane/ventura highway
2nd encore only in your heart
i asked the genie if this was really going to happen and she said
"yes it ...... sound of alarm clock ringing
oh well

Message: 9429 Posted: Tue Jan 04 08:51:04 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: New Year's Greeting-y2k

Whaaaaaaaa? You mean I can't actually re-LIVE the '80's out? Oh, MAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!! Thanks ALOT Steve......(((((C;

Happy Happy 2000 to everyone!

P.S. The new millenium doesn't theoretically start until 2001, so we can do this whole thing over again in December!!!! Got any takers?



Message: 9428 Posted: Mon Jan 03 22:26:59 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re:Star City

Rick, I believe the reason Brad doesn't sing Dan's songs anymore is as follows. There was a time a year or so ago where Brad came down with laryngitis and in order to save his throat he stopped singing those songs. Gerry and Dewey picked them up instead and haven't stopped ever since. I think it is due to popular demand that Gerry and Dewey continue to sing them although I agree that it was fun to hear Brad sing. Personally, I prefer to hear Gerry and Dewey (no offense, Bradley).

Message: 9427 Posted: Mon Jan 03 20:44:26 2000 By: rick
Subject: Re:Star City

Just echoing Margaret's comments about the gig.It was fantastic.Can't wait for Central Coast Leagues tomorrow night.
Just out of curiosty,does any one know why Brad doesn't sing Dan's songs in concert anymore? I remember in 1988 and 1991 when they were out here that Brad sung Lonely People and Don't Cross.I was wondering why he doesn't anymore.I thought "the rookie" did a fine job.

Message: 9426 Posted: Mon Jan 03 15:26:33 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Star City

You said it ! AMERICA's consistent & well disciplined, time tested, performances are the key. How they do it so perfectly, time & time again is quite extraordinary. No performer can match them for consistency & longevity.
It doesn't matter where they are playing, they are professionals from start to finish. GO HUMAN NATURE ! GO AMERICA 2000 !!

Message: 9425 Posted: Mon Jan 03 14:49:48 2000 By: Greg Gorter
Subject: Re: Star City

Margret, I couldn't agree with you more... These guys and a few other bands are probably the last bastion of true performing professionals, and thats not to take anything away from what we hear from other bands nowadays, however, the endurance, professionalism & quality of these guys is becoming rare & will probably not be seen again. You hear a really popular group these days last for about 2-3 years max, that's the mortality rate in the Rock industry today, America have shown all of us what an outstanding sucess thay have been to the music industry as a whole, have a look at their tour schedule for the past 12 months. There wouldn't be too many groups that could keep this schedule going for too long. Rock on America !

Message: 9424 Posted: Mon Jan 03 09:54:16 2000 By: Janice
Subject: Happy 2000!

Hi all..just got in last night from the west coast where my kids and I were in close encounters of the worst kind at the Disneyland elbows are still chaffed! Disney put on a great show for the 3 days we were there..Ronnnie and I hit the dance floor together, him being my sole date for the affair... :-) (My two older ones were off scoping out the girls)! Anyway, Margaret I do want to say that your reviews were wonderful..and I have only scrolled back a short way this morning..thanks so much for sharing! To the band and everyone on this page I would like to extend a Happy and Healthy New Year! Well, going to relax and recuperate from my vacation this, back to reading all that I missed. Bye for now! Janice

Message: 9423 Posted: Mon Jan 03 09:52:02 2000 By: Tres'
Subject: Re: Star City

Thanks so much for the great reviews! Glad you had such a large time; glad the guys played the long version; thanks for obtaining "hello" from Gerry! Feels a little "up close and personal"! Happy New Year to all.
Belated birthday wishes to CJ (l/l/00). The BEST friend anyone could have! Thanks for trekkin' w/me to see the Boys.
Margaret - thanks for sharing!

Message: 9422 Posted: Mon Jan 03 09:45:38 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Star City

Margaret, thanks so much for the great review and for passing along Gerry's message. It sounds like the guys were the ultimate professionals, as usual. And Dewey went the extra mile (or should I say extra 0.62137 kilometers since he's in Australia) performing so well when he was under the weather. Thanks again.

Message: 9421 Posted: Mon Jan 03 08:45:29 2000 By: Margaret
Subject: Star City

It is 12.45am on Tuesday 4 January in Sydney. While it looks like everyone in the U.S. is still recovering from the New Year celebrations we have been busy.
We've just returned from Star City, the new casino on the harbour foreshore. We honestly thought that it couldn't get any better than what we experienced at Wollongong, but it did. Every concert is different, as is every crowd. The venue is great, the sound was fantastic, there was so much energy evident and the audience was particularly enthusiastic. Oh and we got the really long show, 9.05 until 10.30, with 23 songs. There were some surprises in the set compared to NYE. This is the list: Riverside, Ventura Hwy, You Can Do Magic, Don't Cross the River, Daisy Jane, Mirror to Mirror, ANOTHER TRY, THREE ROSES, I Need You, Wednesday Morning, Pages, Wheels Are Turning, Tin Man, Woman Tonight, Only in Your Heart, California Dreaming, Lonely People, Things We Said Today, FROM A MOVING TRAIN, Never Be Lonely, Sandman ,Sister Golden Hair and for the encore, Horse With No Name.While the new CD was mentioned twice, it wasn't named. Hopefully people who liked what they heard will go and track it down and buy it!
We were thrilled to hear From A Moving Train towards the end (we love that song ) and after not hearing it on NYE, we thought that it may not have been included again. There was a slight hiccup at the start of Moving Train, but that was soon sorted out.
As it turned out, Dewey was quite ill after their trip to the Gold Coast and he said that he didn't know how he got through the show. He said he was on automatic pilot. We wish him a speedy recovery.
It was wonderful to catch up with the guys and we especially thank Gerry for his warm greetings. I was bold enough to ask, on behalf of all the fans who read this Chat Folder, if he would like to write a message that I could type. This is it.
"Greetings one & all
Welcome to the
21st Century
We are having
a fantastic time
down under.
See you all
This is a very special band, not only for their fine music, but for the kind of people that they are. We thank the guys for making our 14th America concert one that we will never forget.
It is now 1.40 (I'm a really slow typist) and I desperately need sleep!

Message: 9420 Posted: Sat Jan 01 11:21:15 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Happy New Year

Happy New Year to Gerry, Dewey, Brad, Willie, Woodz, Pete, to all their families and everyone here on this board, and especially to
Steve L. :0) HL

Message: 9419 Posted: Sat Jan 01 09:49:17 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: New Year's Greeting

I'd like to add my greetings to those already expressed. I hope that everyone has a most fantastic 2000 Thanks, too, to those who have thanked me for being the webmaster. It's a lot of work but it's worth it because of you wonderful fans and the great bunch of guys who make up America.

By the way, I already had my first Y2K glitch this morning. It wasn't terrible but 3 of my 5 computers at home (I know, I'm spoiled) said the current date was January 4, 1980 instead of January 1, 2000. I had expected that might happen on a few of my computers so I simply changed it to the correct date and everything has been fine since then. If any of you have the same problem, don't panic. Just change the date to the right time and go on.


Message: 9418 Posted: Sat Jan 01 09:36:34 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: New Year's Greeting

I want to wish everyone a fabulous New Year! Rock on Dewey, Gerry, and the Guys!! Thanks for all the great music from the past, now, and in the future.

Steve Lowry, thank you very much for the wonderful job that you do for us as webmaster. You are the BEST!!!

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