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Archives: July 2000

Message: 12847 Posted: Mon Jul 31 19:17:15 2000 By: Beth
Subject: Missed Stillwater, Gonna Make Door Co!!

Jim, Randy, Everybody! I WILL Be at the Door County Show on August 11! I had planned on going to Stillwater, and was in Minnesota last weekend, but I was way up in Hill City, at a camp-out with fellow Dry Riders Motorcycle Club. Thanks for breaking my heart with your wonderful descriptions of the show!!

Looking forward to seeing them in two weeks! Any plans on going? I hope to bring my two sons along, and perhaps we'll camp out for the weekend....If you'll be there & want to try to hook up, drop me a line!

Stay Tuned!

Message: 12846 Posted: Mon Jul 31 18:39:04 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Trains on the brain

Cool site

Message: 12845 Posted: Mon Jul 31 17:43:38 2000 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Stillwater playlist

Hey Jim R, sounds like a great evening up there. That was the same playlist as the Peo. show except we didn't get Wind Wave (such a drag) but we did get And Forever (one of my highlights) and Everyone I Meet Is From California... Also I've got to admit to liking the stripped down versions of Who Loves You, Watership Down and Letter better than the originals even though my favorite album is Hearts, with all the strings and layered harmonies, on that record. DanC.

Message: 12844 Posted: Mon Jul 31 17:42:22 2000 By: Randy
Subject: Re:Re:More Stillwater

First of all, it was great to meet you at the Stillwater Concert, Jim. Thanks so much for posting the story. Thanks also for posting the playlist. Since I am not a fast typist, you saved me a lot of work.
Perhaps I should subtitle this posting - " In Praise of Smaller Venues." On Saturday afternoon, when we crossed the St. Croix River from Wisconsin to Stillwater, I noticed the floating stage right away. I felt right away that if anything, this concert would at least be a unique experience. By the way, thanks Steve for posting a description of the Lumberjack Days festival area. That saves me the trouble of describing it. This was a "free" concert. No parking fees, no admission charge to the grounds and no charge to watch our favorite group perform a stellar show! The cost was picked up by some very civic-minded local businesses. They certainly deserved the VIP seats that they got up front and center. I felt that the crowd was exceptional. Many of those there were in my age group i.e. they remember America from their beginning. My wife commented on the almost total absence of those who could be called "falling down drunk". The both of us seen a lot of that at Summerfest in Milwaukee. It was great to see such a self-controlled crowd. This crowd really seemed to enjoy this performance. Hats off to the wonderful folks in the Stillwater area. It certainly made the 5 hour drive worthwhile. I would have always enjoyed the concert by America, no matter what. But the courteous local residents made it a whole lot easier for my wife and I to navigate about with a six year old who slept through the concert and our rambunctious two year old.
I have found that these smaller venues where America plays are really neat. All of us would like to see a whole lot more America fans in this world. But the guys really found their niche with these smaller venues. - Randy

Message: 12843 Posted: Mon Jul 31 17:37:03 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Young Moon / Dewey Squinting

I've seen America countless numbers of times. (One of the advantages of living in New York)
In each and every show that I was at, Dewey always nailed his vocal parts 100% of the time.
Since he sometimes closes his eyes while singing, he gives the APPEARANCE of having difficulty, even though his vocals are and have always been perfect. I suppose it's a way to concentrate better.
Personally, as long as he sounds as good as he does, he can squint, close his eyes, or wear a beenie cap...makes no difference to me. LOL


Message: 12842 Posted: Mon Jul 31 16:38:00 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Trains on the brain

And the most recent mention of a train (or perhaps the earliest) is from Mitchum Junction: "Railroad smoke sifting through the strong Southern sky".


Message: 12841 Posted: Mon Jul 31 16:08:29 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Trains on the brain

Thank you, Robyn. Being in train-ing, I can honestly say I'm always glad to hear someone else actually likes the iron horses with ever-changing names.

The train thing has been a private question of mine for years. Since a train is a familiar thing, it's not surprising when it turns up in America lyrics every now and then, but the idea has been laced in many songs. "Wishing on a falling star, waiting for the early train," etc., in addition to the obvious song titles. But when "Encore" pictured Dewey and Gerry standing trackside, I thought for sure one of them had trains on the brain. So, with that in mind, here's hoping any interested party surfs on to the Kalmbach web site ( for info at their leisure. Directions will be agreeably provided. Fans may hop aboard anytime.

Jim R.

Message: 12840 Posted: Mon Jul 31 15:57:28 2000 By: BC
Subject: Young Moon / Dewey Squinting

I remember that Young Moon was released and had airplay back in 1994. I heard it in a store in the mall and knew instantly that it was America. I also saw Gerry and Dewey on Regis and Kathy Lee a few days earlier. (Just happened to be home that morning and had the TV on -- lucky me!) They were promoting their new CD and sang two songs. One was "I Need You". I cannot remember what the other one was....... I had looked in record stores every so often in the America section since 1984, hoping they would have a new release. After seeing them on Regis and Kathy Lee, I ran out and bought the CD that day.

A few messages back, there was talk of Dewey's voice, squinting, etc........ I had the privilege of seeing America in concert for the first time in 1999. My family sat on the second row and when Dewey announced they were playing a song from their new CD, I cheered, clapped and whistled as loudly as I could. As they played and sang, Dewey squinted. I assumed he was trying to look out into the audience to see who the nut was that was making so much noise.

Message: 12839 Posted: Mon Jul 31 15:34:25 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: More Stillwater

That is one very wild, bizarre story!!!
Everyone sing along with me: "It's a small world after all, it's a small world after all, it's a small world after all, it's a small, small world."


Message: 12838 Posted: Mon Jul 31 12:54:24 2000 By: Steve Nelson
Subject: Re: Stillwater playlist

Nice job on the playlist Jim. I'm sorry that you were so far away at the start. I really do not offer much to the chat folder but if I had known you were there I might have been able to get you in the VIP section. A friend of mine is a major sponsor and if I remember right there were empty seats. Sorry! I would most definitely help out a fellow fan.

Message: 12837 Posted: Mon Jul 31 12:37:12 2000 By: Mark McVey
Subject: Springfield Show...

My 10 year old daughter and I will be heading down to Springfield in a few hours for the show tonight. I thought I would break her into the concert world with America, before she wants to see Brittney Spears and N'sync live, ha... I'll toss a review out later tonight or tomarrow... Take Care, Mark (inKC)...

Message: 12836 Posted: Mon Jul 31 12:05:57 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Stillwater playlist

In the interest of keeping people up to date on America's current playlist, here's what they played at the July 29 Stillwater, Minn., concert. I've listed the 23 songs in the order in which they were performed, along with the album and release date (by copyright).

Riverside ("America," 1971)
Ventura Highway ("Homecoming," 1972)
You Can Do Magic ("View from the Ground," 1982)
Don't Cross the River ("Homecoming," 1972)
Daisy Jane ("Hearts," 1975)
Wind Wave ("Hat Trick," 1973)
Mirror to Mirror ("Hourglass," 1994)
Another Try ("Holiday," 1974)
Three Roses ("America," 1971)
I Need You ("America," 1971)
Wednesday Morning ("Human Nature," 1998)
Wheels are Turning ("Human Nature," 1998)
Tin Man ("Holiday," 1974)
Woman Tonight ("Hearts," 1975)
Only in Your Heart ("Hearts," 1975)
California Dreamin' (soundtrack from the 1979 movie)
Lonely People ("Holiday," 1974)
Hangover ("Alibi," 1980)
Things We Said Today (early Beatles, never recorded by America)
Never Be Lonely ("View from the Ground," 1982)
Sandman ("America," 1971)
Sister Golden Hair ("Hearts," 1975)
A Horse with No Name ("America," 1971)

Message: 12835 Posted: Mon Jul 31 11:41:35 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: More Stillwater

Have any of you noticed that we're getting lots of "Steve's" on the Chat Folder? I guess I'll have to start putting SteveL on all of my posts so you'll know it's me. Anyway, here's a message I received from Steve Nelson (yet another Steve) who was also at the Stillwater concert. It sounds like it was a GREAT concert to be at.

"The Stillwater venue was beautiful. The band played on a large
barge on the river back to the shore. Hundreds of boats parked
around the barge making it a very cool site. I would guess there
were 25,000 maybe more. We had a group of 12 that had VIP seats in
the front row. I was able to spend time backstage to get a few
photos. Although I was not able to get one with Gerry I did get one
with Dewey. He was most gracious and a nice person. I also have a
shot with Willie and myself. My solo shots include Gerry and Mike
Woods. To be honest I really did not want to come off as a pest so I
kept it to a minimum. Also, I did not have a really good camera
so... anyway the whole experience was great. I really believe that
this set they did was maybe the best that I have ever heard. Till
the next concert..."

Message: 12834 Posted: Mon Jul 31 10:34:27 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Jim, the odds...

Jim, the chances of you and Randy and family meeting like that are absolutely incredible! It was meant to be, I'd say.

That reminds me of another strange coincidence recently. My brother, who lives in Albuquerque, met a fellow from his Rotary Club who was also from our hometown of Hobbs, NM. My brother Howard and this fellow were talking about the old days as kids growing up on a certain neighborhood block. Howard and this person didn't know know each other at all; they had just met. Howard said he remembered a neighborhood teenager who was hot-rodding a car and struck and killed a child who dashed into the street. The fellow Howard was talking to said, "Yeah, that was my dad's car and I was a passenger." Boy, Howard said he felt as low as a person could get. The odds of that are incredible, too.

Message: 12833 Posted: Mon Jul 31 09:42:37 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: More Stillwater

Here's an interesting tidbit from the Stillwater, Minn., concert that Randy didn't tell you about.

First, upon arriving at 5 p.m., I tracked down a Lumberjack Days organizer (with help of two patrol officers) at the stage to find out what to expect and how the seating was arranged. The lady told me that she expected that about 20,000 would fill in the riverside shore area surrounding the floating stage by 7 p.m. (The seats up front were for the concert's sponsors, whose contributions made the free concert possible.) With that in mind, I figured the chances of finding anyone else from the chat folder were astronomically small. Randy and I had exchanged e-mails hoping that maybe America would ask chat folder members in the crowd to raise their hands, so we could scan for faces. But we really didn't expect it. An old college friend/roommate (who used to endure me playing "History" and all my America albums repeatedly 18 years earlier) stood with me during the concert. I told him that somewhere in this crowd was at least one other chat folder regular.

Well, as Randy mentioned, America had airline problems. (It sounds like they were stranded by Northwest Airlines in Newark, N.J., for most of the day on Saturday. Apparently, Northwest hasn't gotten over their scheduling strife since they last stranded me in Milwaukee and Dallas in 1998.) By the time they took the stage at 9:35 p.m., the shoreline was packed. I could barely see the stage. As the concert progressed, a few people apparently filtered down to some empty sponsor seats, leaving more standing room to get a clearer view of the stage. Eventually, my friend and I edged our way to a vantage point where we had a clear view.

We eventually found ourselves standing directly behind a friendly couple with two kids and a wagon in tow. I continued to write down the playlist on some paper, using my boxed set cover as a clipboard, so I obviously looked like a fan. The nice lady in front of me noticed the boxed set and eventually asked me how many times I'd seen America. "Four," I said. "She asked if I planned on seeing the group in Door County, Wis. on Aug. 11. It's then that it started to sink in. A couple with two kids at the Stillwater concert talking about the Door County event? "Are you with Randy?" I asked. "Yes, I'm Cindy," she responded. "Oh my God, I'm from the chat folder," I said. She grabbed Randy, who had been distracted by one of the kids for a few moments, and said, "It's Jim!"

That's right. With up to 20,000 people crowding the stage area, two America Chat Folder members from more than 300 miles away ended up standing right next to each other. Only in America.

Jim R.

Message: 12832 Posted: Mon Jul 31 08:53:01 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Oops!

Johnny, your intentions were good, and that's what counts. For your information, though, the information you posted is no longer valid. Gallin and Morey have separated and America's agency is now Morey Management with offices in Beverly Hills and Nashville (the Nashville office does most of the work). If anyone else needs contact information I can provide it for them. --SteveL

Message: 12831 Posted: Mon Jul 31 08:52:23 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Highway.

<<I'm especially interested in all the alternate mixes from Hideaway. They're all so much simpler, and to me more powerful. I wonder if this is the way the three wanted them to be released originally. >>

Kevin, I had similar thoughts last week as I listened to the alternate mixes. In most cases (Who Loves You, Watership Down, and Letter), the mixes were basically stripped of the George Martin-produced strings. I enjoy all three versions, both in original and alternate form. My only concern is that, in addition to the missing strings, the harmonized background vocals were also taken out of "Watership Down." For that reason, the alternative mix seemed less like an America song.

My gut instinct is that all of the alt mixes aren't the "preferred" versions by the guys. They were merely available versions that seemed different enough (and interesting enough) to include in the boxed set. But I'm guessing, of course. I'd love to hear something more definitive from Gerry and Dewey about their thoughts on the alts.

Jim R.

Message: 12830 Posted: Mon Jul 31 08:31:05 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Oops!

Always late and a dollar short!

Message: 12829 Posted: Mon Jul 31 08:29:38 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Msg To Steve in Sydney

Steve, according to the info on Hourglass, America's management is listed as:

Gallin-Morey Associates
8730 Sunset Blvd.
Penthouse West
Los Angeles, CA 90069

The person to contact with Gallin-Morey is Ms. Che'vy Nash, I believe. Steve L should know.

Message: 12828 Posted: Mon Jul 31 08:29:06 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Record Sales

As has been noted before, America officially has 2 platinum albums, 4 additional gold albums, and 1 gold single as recognized by the RIAA. However, it is my understanding that RIAA only accounts for sales in the US, not worldwide. Other countries award their own versions of gold and platinum records based on sales in their countries. Plus the RIAA awards may not be indicative of actual sales. I believe that in order to receive an RIAA award a record company must apply with the RIAA and provide proof of sales. An RIAA award is not automatic just because a record sells a million copies. The record company must submit an "application package" to RIAA for the official award. So it is possible that other America records have sold enough for gold or platinum but WB or Capitol may not have applied for the award, since America is no longer with their label.

Message: 12827 Posted: Mon Jul 31 08:23:58 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: America's management

Margaret, I have contacted Steve and given him the information he requested. I hope he is a promoter who can get the guys to come down and play there so you can see them again. --SteveL

Message: 12826 Posted: Mon Jul 31 07:23:52 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Highway.

Tom: I would image Dan is very proud of Highway, as he should be. It underscores the incredible legacy he helped create. As good as the booklet and packaging are, it really gets down to the music. I find it almost impossible to stop listening. I'm especially interested in all the alternate mixes from Hideaway. They're all so much simpler, and to me more powerful. I wonder if this is the way the three wanted them to be released originally.


Message: 12825 Posted: Mon Jul 31 02:42:27 2000 By: TomP
Subject: HIGHWAY :

It has been interesting, reading all of your thoughts and comments about "Highway".
Dan is also very enthusiastic about the quality of the package.
So enthusiastic, that he has asked me to set up a contest at his Website,, to celebrate the release of the new Box Set. The winners of the contest will receive a free copy of "Highway".
The contest is happening now, and everyone is invited to "play"!
Tom Peek

Message: 12824 Posted: Mon Jul 31 01:56:47 2000 By: Margaret
Subject: America's management

This is a wishful-thinking reply. My fertile imagination hopes that Steve, who asked the question, is a promoter who wants to bring America to Australia.
Steve Lowry should be able to provide you with the information that you are seeking. Thanks in advance, Steve L. It would be wonderful to have the guys back in Australia.

Message: 12823 Posted: Sun Jul 30 23:18:42 2000 By: steve
Subject: trying to contact america management

i am from sydney australia, i am trying to contact the management of america, can someone provide me with a fax, phone, email or address please.

hope to hear from someone soon.



Message: 12822 Posted: Sun Jul 30 19:55:32 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Stillwater

"Still waters run deep." Sounds like the enjoyment level there did as well.

This is my last post for tonight...I promise.

Message: 12821 Posted: Sun Jul 30 19:51:43 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Oops!

Oops! I accidently hit "enter" before I had a chance to label my subject matter. I see that it automatically puts in "America" as the subject title. That's a good title, too! :O )

Four posts in a row...hat trick plus one.

Message: 12820 Posted: Sun Jul 30 19:47:12 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: America

"Funky, breathy, very cool"...sounds very much like a description of "Whispering" to me. I think it would have been a hit had it been released as a single.

"Unique" is how I describe "Whispering"!

Message: 12819 Posted: Sun Jul 30 19:42:13 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: "HCITY Away" Sound Clip?

Kevin, I don't know if there's any sound clip available from "How Could I Turn You Away". I don't even know what the lyrics are, but wouldn't it be great to hear a clip or merely to read the lyrics? I feel that it might be on the next America CD, whenever that is.

Message: 12818 Posted: Sun Jul 30 19:34:13 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Any Single From "Highway"?

If there were to be a single from "Highway", I would love for it to be "Young Moon". It's such a beautiful song. Dewey's vocals are great! I consider it to be one of his best. Had it received better promotion from American Gramaphone, who knows what it could have done on the charts.

I wonder what Dewey and Gerry's thoughts are about the song. My guess is that they probably feel the same since it was placed as the first song on "Hourglass" as well as being one of the two songs on "Highway" from that CD.

Message: 12817 Posted: Sun Jul 30 19:20:16 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: The Answer To Trivia Question Revisited

I guess it's time to reveal the answer to the "Trivia Question Revisited". Here it is:

"How Could I Turn You Away," is an unreleased track from the Human Nature sessions. The tune's smoky atmoshpere and soulful groove gives Beckley a chance to show off a different side to his vocals. Phil Galdston, co-writer of Vanessa Williams' "Save The Best For Last," shared writing and production credit and played keyboards. Bunnell describes the tune as "an unusual track for Gerry--funky, breathy, very cool."

Wouldn't we all love to hear it?

Message: 12816 Posted: Sun Jul 30 16:32:28 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Trivia.

What's the deal with "How Could I Turn You Away?" Who wrote it? Who sings it? Is there a sound clip available or something? If so, where is it?


Message: 12815 Posted: Sun Jul 30 15:09:41 2000 By: Virginia
Subject: Re: A Message For Virginia


I don't THINK there is aything wrong with my email at the moment. At least I can log on, but I haven't received any mail today, so who knows? Try again later, or maybe wait until tomorrow. Sorry. This is frustrating.


Message: 12814 Posted: Sun Jul 30 14:32:23 2000 By: Randy
Subject: Stillwater

WOW! What a concert! This was the "deluxe" show - 23 songs - about 90 minutes. I was quite concerned because it didn't start until 9:30. The guys had some real problems with an airline; layovers, delays, etc. As the concert progressed, my worst fears were laid to rest. I thought that perhaps we would get the "casino length" show of about one hour. But, when they got to other material besides the "hits", I knew that it would be longer. Rather than give the playlist, I'll mention the extras which really made this performance exceptional.
1. Three Roses - "unplugged" when it was cool as Gerry said
2. Another Try - great to hear this one performed again as it used to be almost a "standard" at their concerts years ago.
3. Wind Wave - sweet! Great keyboards by Gerry, vocals by Dewey, and percussion & keyboards by Michael
4. Hangover - us fans know that this one is being played. Dewey had to prep the crowd a bit. I wonder how many of them ever even heard it until last night. My wife even liked it. (I hope that it didn't remind her of me from my younger days).
Finally - Mirror to Mirror, Wheels are Turning, and Wednesday Morning.
I feel that the crowds have got to keep on hearing the newer material.
I've got a lot more to say, but I'll keep it for another posting. I just wanted to get something going here in the chat folder. - Randy

Message: 12813 Posted: Sun Jul 30 12:33:59 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: A Message For Virginia

Virginia, I sent you a message this morning but it was returned to me as undeliverable due to a fatal error. I sent a second message but it too, appeared to crash. Johnny

Message: 12812 Posted: Sat Jul 29 22:16:23 2000 By: laura
Subject: Stillwater concert

I just returned from a good time at the Stillwater, MN concert -- my first America concert in far too long (since the !Gasp! 80's, quite a few before that...) Very interesting, it was! Smiling, I am. Yawning too, but ever smiling. Thanks Guys!
~ & as for Michael Woods, I appreciated the clever choice of T-shirt. As an Okie my first 42 years, & now up north for only 2 mos., I liked seeing a Stillwater T-shirt -- even if it was from Stillwater, OK instead of Stillwater, MN

Message: 12811 Posted: Sat Jul 29 21:56:54 2000 By: Pat B.
Subject: Re: Any single from Highway?

My choice of single would be "Who Loves You". I think Highway's version (the alternate mix) is outstanding!

Message: 12810 Posted: Sat Jul 29 21:17:33 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: WARNING, WARNING.....Off subject.....LOL

Take Highway and a portable cd ( aka my portable box of sanity), beechlady ( but you knew that already.....)

Message: 12809 Posted: Sat Jul 29 20:10:45 2000 By: Richard C
Subject: Any single from Highway?

Anything been said regarding a single being released from the box set? In the booklet Dewey commented that "Nothings as far away as yesterday" should have done more. Since it was already released in 1991 by Rhino it would seem to be a good choice.

Message: 12808 Posted: Sat Jul 29 14:42:08 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Lisa Rose's Prize

Andy my friend, First of all they call them terminals because they have come to the end of their trip and terminal means end but don't understand how when they leave they are at a terminal also, perhaps they are terminating their stay in that place--I don't know-anyway---you are right I should have a prize of laundry done for a year or cooking for my extending family---what about Gerry or Dewey as a slave for a day--that would work!!!

Message: 12807 Posted: Sat Jul 29 14:37:50 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Who's Herndon?

Now that I know about him, you have another option where to send my prize to, the "Billy Ray Cyrus"want to be's". (think that is the right spelling but didn't have the desire to check!!!)

Message: 12806 Posted: Sat Jul 29 14:33:08 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Lisa Rose's Prize

Ummm....I remember hearing something about doing my laundry for one whole year as well as cooking for my huge extended family...:) ROFLMAO!!!!!


Message: 12805 Posted: Sat Jul 29 14:29:02 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: WARNING, WARNING.....Off subject.....LOL

...(and WHY do they call them TERMINALS? lol-kinda')Any tips would be GREATLY appreciated.

For the same reason that we park on our driveways and drive on the parkways. Ha!!

Andy--------------->In his never ending quest for budget priced Prozac

Message: 12804 Posted: Sat Jul 29 14:05:26 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Who's Herndon?

LisaRose, I really do appreciate your good sense of humor! I was having doubts about what I had posted.

Ty Herndon is a popular country music singer. He has a very large female-fan following. He also has a very nice singing voice (of course, right?). He appeared on the Home Shopping Network the same time Dewey and Gerry did when they were promoting "HN".

Message: 12803 Posted: Sat Jul 29 12:35:42 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: LisaRose, Your Prize (LOL)!

Being the charitable person that I am--please donate my prize to your favorite charity!!!!Thanks so much---maybe you can donate the Pee Wee autograph to the "Pervets of America" organization, or Dolly's big and hits, to the "Keep Hooters Open" Society and don't know what to say about George Michael (don't want to offend anyone) and who the heck is Ty Herdon?????

Message: 12802 Posted: Sat Jul 29 12:12:02 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: LisaRose, Your Prize (LOL)!

LisaRose, your choice of autographs by PeeWee, George Michaels, and Ty Herndon or the booby prize, a CD of Dolly Partons, "Dolly's Biggest Hits".

Message: 12801 Posted: Sat Jul 29 11:59:20 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Page 21

Page 21 of "Highway" at the Elliot Roberts Ranch:

Gerry: "Ughhhh!"

Dewey: "Man, I can't believe they're turnin' that stallion into a gelding!"

Dan: "Damn, that must hurt!!!"

Message: 12800 Posted: Sat Jul 29 11:58:39 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Trivia Question Revisited...Yes LisaRose!

o what's my prize???LOL!!!

Message: 12799 Posted: Sat Jul 29 11:38:07 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Tery, I Recommend...

Beechlady, take the "grey dog"! By the way, where's the heck is Detwa? If there's bodies of water between where you are and there, you're in the dog house. (LOL)!

Page 27 of Highway, "Where The Hell Is Shenandoah, Virginia?"

Message: 12798 Posted: Sat Jul 29 11:29:38 2000 By: Steve
Subject: Deweys singing ...better than ever!

The more you excercise your voice, it gets stronger. The key that lonely people is played in may not be quite right for Deweys range. That is nothing against his singing. If they lowered the key for him the music would sound alittle different. I think that Deweys voice has gotten stronger not weaker over the years. His singing on Hourglass and Human Nature is excellent.

Message: 12797 Posted: Sat Jul 29 11:15:57 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: WARNING, WARNING.....Off subject.....LOL

Another in yet a series of off subject posts, but I need some pointers!

My last aeroplane flight was an almost complete disaster (back in January). Went thru severe storms and got jostled around REAL good (I consider myself a veteran flyer-flown thru Santa Anas', Thunderstorms, Welllllll, I'm VERY nervous about my upcoming flight to Detwa. The events of the last week have only intensified my misgivings......what's a girl to do? Any of you guys feel like this from time to time? I can't get bombed (a tip a friend jokingly gave me), I'm flying with my 13 and 10 year Meditation proves MIGHTY difficult in the Southwest terminal...(and WHY do they call them TERMINALS? lol-kinda')Any tips would be GREATLY appreciated.

TkH<---Erica Jong has NOTHING on me...roflmao!

Message: 12796 Posted: Sat Jul 29 11:01:40 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Trivia Question Revisited...Yes LisaRose!

LisaRose gave me the correct answer to "How Could I Turn You Away" triv question. She knew the two co-writers and the lead vocalist. Very good, LisaRose!

Here is someone's opinion of the song, "an unusual track for ? (the lead vocalist)...funky, breathy, very cool."

I'll let you all know later who made that comment about the person in question.

Message: 12795 Posted: Sat Jul 29 08:48:35 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Fall River Show?

Nina, I'm still trying to get a response from Morey Management about the Fall River show. I sent another message this morning so we'll see if they get back to me. I suspect I won't hear anything from them before Monday, however, since I'm not sure if they check their e-mail on weekends.

Message: 12794 Posted: Sat Jul 29 08:01:21 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Highway

I agree Rhino did an excellent, high quality job on HIGHWAY. The information is both extremely informative & quite honest. In fact the package could have been called 'Honest'. AMERICA has always been honest & true to their music & their fans; this package just confirms it. The binding & quality of the booklet will ensure that it will last a very long time. The AMERICA story is finally published to the world, the 1st 30 years that is. HIGHWAY is a great launch into the new millenium for AMERICA.

Message: 12793 Posted: Sat Jul 29 07:36:31 2000 By: Tom T.
Subject: Highway

I just got back from my vacation and found my copy of "Highway" waiting for me. I felt like a kid on Christmas morning!!! The packaging is superb; and being one of the "die-hard's" I must commend Rhino Records for pleasing the fans who have stuck by America "All these years". I am still trying to absorb all the info in the booklet. Just when I thought I knew all there was to know about America, here comes "Highway". For me there are just a few bummers about the Box Set, but I definitely give it an A+. I agree with all of my friends here at this Chat Folder- This Summer has been great for all of the Friends Of AMERICA!!!

Message: 12792 Posted: Sat Jul 29 07:19:25 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Dewey's voice

Hey Joe K!
Heck that's what the first amendment guarentees you! LOL! I personally think Gerry's voice is also lead caliber, tho. Who ELSE sounds like that? It's so distinctive, you IMMEDIATLY think "America" when you hear him.

TkH<--------luckily I have the INTERNET to *voice* my opinions! LOL!

Message: 12791 Posted: Sat Jul 29 06:47:31 2000 By: Nina
Subject: Fall River Show?

That August 12th Fall River, MA concert is STILL posted on America's tour schedule...does ANYBODY have a definate YES or NO about whether they are to appear or not? I'm assuming "not"???

Message: 12790 Posted: Fri Jul 28 23:23:32 2000 By: Joe Knight
Subject: Dewey's voice

Dewey is the only one of the 3 who truely has a "lead singers "voice. The sound of America is Dewey ,Gerry and Dan singing together. Deweys voice was heard above Gerry and Dans,but the 3 of them together created an incredible sound that was every bit as unique as the Beatles. I am not trying to put anyone down. It is very apparent that Dewey was the least gifted of the 3 on guitar,(but still very good) I received a live CD of the guys today. It was a smaller version of the Biscuit CD. After listening to that I pulled out my 1977 vinyl Live album. the 1977 version is head and shoulders above the Biscuit CD.Of course that is just my opinion..I could be wrong........... Joe K

Message: 12789 Posted: Fri Jul 28 21:44:02 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Trivia Question Revisited

The hint is actually the same as last time: You can find the answer to the trivia question on the America Fans web site. However, since there aren't any lyrics on the web site for this unreleased song, you'll have to look somewhere else. Happy hunting! (By the way, if nobody finds it after a day or so, I'll give you another hint about where to look.)


Message: 12788 Posted: Fri Jul 28 19:50:33 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Trivia Question Revisited

I can't believe there's no takers on the "HCITY Away" triv question. Steve, you can give your hint now if you wish.

Message: 12787 Posted: Fri Jul 28 17:34:12 2000 By: Rob
Subject: Thanks Beechlady

I checked out the web site with gold and platinum certified albums. Thanks for the lead!

Message: 12786 Posted: Fri Jul 28 12:51:53 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: CSN&Y


Don't forget "Catch That Train".


Message: 12785 Posted: Fri Jul 28 12:40:40 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Stuff......

I, too had heard that Stephen is less than personable, ah well, they can't all be as gracious as Dewey and Gerry!

Well said Beechlady. You beat me to it. The nuances a singer develops as they grow older is much more interesting to hear.

Trains Jim ? I LOVE trains ( I get to take one to work every day. I think that's neat)

Message: 12784 Posted: Fri Jul 28 12:38:07 2000 By: Cathy
Subject: Highway Hauntings

Just returned from a Holiday of my own and found Highway waiting for me. Wow...that final Riverside just blew me away. All I can say is I felt wistful and joyous all at the same time. I feel a sense of grace -- that I've been able to travel down the same highway during the same years. Thank you America!

Message: 12783 Posted: Fri Jul 28 11:33:34 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: CSN&Y

Now don't let this get out of the chat folder, lest I get in trouble at work (the magazine Classic Toy Trains). But every time, CSN&Y comes to the Milwaukee area, I hold out hope that Neil Young will visit my workplace. Young is an investment partner in Wellspring, the investment firm that owns Lionel LLC, and is very much associated with toy trains and Lionel. The problem? When and if he comes to the building again, I wouldn't want to talk about toy trains. I'd want to talk music. And, um, that's not my job.

Still waiting for the authors of such personal favorites as "From a Moving Train" and "Sleeper Train" to make a personal visit to Classic Toy Trains' sister publication, Trains. The invitation for a tour is open to any America fan with an interest in trains, actually.

Jim R.

Message: 12782 Posted: Fri Jul 28 11:23:06 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Anyone's Voice

<<Ah, but the trade off on losing the high end of your range is an incredibly rich intonation as you grow older.>>

Maybe that's why I still like what I hear from Dewey and Dan. I thought Dewey's "Horse..." performance on the TNN show was great, despite its notable difference from the original recording. Similarly, as a big John Lennon fan, I appreciated the fact that Lennon's voice seemed stronger when he sung ballads in his later years ("Woman") than when he was younger. Naturally, I wouldn't have expected him to shred his 40-year-old vocal chords like he did in his younger 20s ("Twist & Shout"). As for Dewey, I continue to like his voice, especially when it is used in contrast to Gerry's, as America has done on "Hourglass" and "Human Nature." Dewey gives songs like "Hope" and "Moment to Moment" a rock-edge with his backing vocals. And remember, I like "Hot Town."

Jim R.

Message: 12781 Posted: Fri Jul 28 11:02:20 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Selling A New Album and Misc.

I know when Steely Dan performed an hour-long program on tv for PBS three to four months ago, they included no less than 3-4 songs from their new CD.

Andy's mention of CS&N, reminded me of something from two weekends ago. I was in a local antique & crafts store when I heard someone playing a guitar in one of the booths. It sounded so good that I went to check it out. I saw a guy strumming away. I commented to him how well he played. He looked very familiar to me. I asked him if he had ever performed on "Austin City Limits". He said he performed two songs on one of their broadcasts. I asked him if his name is Dickie Erwin. I even remembered the name of one of his songs, "Grindstone". He's a local performer in the Austin area. I asked him who he has met from the music industry that's well known. He mentioned David Crosby, Stephen Stills, and Willie Nelson. He said Crosby and Nelson are extremely nice people. Regarding Stills, he said, "No comment." I realize that's just one person's opinion.

Not one person has even attempted a guess at the Trivia Question Revisited. Let's give it another day. Than Steve, you can give your clue, if you wish.

Message: 12780 Posted: Fri Jul 28 10:21:08 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Anyone's Voice

Ah, but the trade off on losing the high end of your range is an incredibly rich intonation as you grow older. Actually some people DON'T lose as much high end as others. It's a very genetic thing in addition to being an *age* thing. If you don't blow out the chords in your youth you'll preserve your pipes longer!

TkH<-------colds in Florida

Message: 12779 Posted: Fri Jul 28 08:44:50 2000 By: Janice
Subject: Enjoying the Highway even more now..!

I love to drive even more now..I am wearing out my CD's..especially disc 1 where the songs that especially touch my heart are. Ronnie was in the back seat reading the book and wondered things like "Who's that" (vintage pics of Dewey)..and "Why does Dan have 4 arms"..he did recognize Gerry in every picture but commented on his long hair..I love it, love it, love it!! Have a great weekend everyone!..looked at flights to get up to Stillwater tomorrow but everything is packed and I'm too cheap to buy a "real seat" fun for those who get to go!

Message: 12778 Posted: Fri Jul 28 08:27:00 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Re: Selling a new album

FYI: From the "Today Show" 1998 broadcast which went internationally, according to Margaret (who lives in Australia) did air "From A Moving Train" in Australia. I should know, because I have it on tape.

Message: 12777 Posted: Fri Jul 28 07:44:56 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Selling a new album

Why did Human Nature sell such a small number of albums? Because the promotion surrounding the album's release was mainly focused on older classics. I'll never forget how disappointed I was when Dewey and Gerry went on the Today show, and only songs like "Horse" and "Ventura Highway" were featured. "From A Moving Train" was performed, but no one made the effort to have it aired. It's the classic dilemma for Dewey and Gerry: How do you keep the promotion relevant for the masses by reminding them of the older material, and when do you focus on new songs for die-hard or would-be fans? I know a lot of first-time concert-goers experience the usual "Gee, I didn't know those guys did THAT song" phenomenon, but America has to shake the image of just being an oldies-but-goodies band that the media sees them as if they are going to sell any new albums. It's a tricky issue, but I still think America should incorporate more new material in their shows and their promotions.


Message: 12776 Posted: Fri Jul 28 07:42:13 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: America

I think even Dan would struggle to hit his original notes on "Lonely People." When you get older, your vocal range generally decreases, especially for gifted singers with a previoiusly incredible range. Examples from my memory include Frank Sinatra, Judy Garland, and John Lennon, all of who sounded good as veteran singers but whose vocal range diminished on the high end.

I'm not sure Dewey could still hit the notes he originally hit in 1971, when he recorded "A Horse With No Name." Dan's voice on "Bodden Town" is noticeably different than on "Doer of the Word." So far, I haven't noticed any substantial change in Gerry's voice, though I wonder how comfortable even he'd feel trying to perform "Special Girl" or "Your Move" live. I know most of us could care less, as long as we get to hear them perform at all.

Jim R.

Message: 12775 Posted: Fri Jul 28 07:01:00 2000 By: Jeremy01
Subject: Dewey's Voice

Nobody here is complaining about their sound. Red Oak said it best when he said, "at 50 years old, how many of us could hit any notes at all." I saw the band on the 19th with the Doobies, and America sounded as good as ever. I like what Steve said about a vocalist only being as good as his sound engineer. Facial expressions have a profound impact on vocal sounds. They can change resonation and even help to reach notes a little higher. On the other hand, they can also do the opposite. Trying to force a sound can deter its quality. Dewey seemed to be fighting a bit to reach 'em. As for his sound, I've always enjoyed it most of the three. When he is 70 and hardly able to produce a noise at all, I don't doubt he will still be able to create that unmistakable America sound... and it will be great!

Message: 12774 Posted: Fri Jul 28 05:50:06 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: Trivia Question Revisited

It's OK, guys. I have no clue (Shaddup!).


Message: 12773 Posted: Thu Jul 27 21:13:04 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Dewey and those high notes

The most recent show that I was able to go to was the amazing New London, Ct. venue. I was way up front and had no problem seeing anything on stage. My take on Dewey hitting high notes is that he is able to do it quite well, BUT HE LOOKS LIKE HE'S STRUGGLING. Occasionally, I saw him squint thus giving the impression that he's having a rough time. Then again, I was so close to the stage, maybe he saw me and NEEDED to close his eyes so that he wouldn't gag. LOL.
Again, I found absolutely NOTHING wrong with Dewey's voice, even on those higher notes...It sounded excellent.
Oh yeah, if anyone has any live performances of CS&N, doesn't Mr. Stills do half of the show with his eyes closed?? Crosby too!


Message: 12772 Posted: Thu Jul 27 20:43:58 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Trivia Question Revisited

I know, I know.... (slap).

OK, I won't say anything and I won't even give a hint (not yet, anyway... but there is a hint to be given).

Message: 12771 Posted: Thu Jul 27 20:43:51 2000 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Record Sales

in response to finding the total number of sales for each record or Cd...The only one I know for sure is that "History: America's Greatest
hits" has been certified for sales of 4 million copies. As a reporter
to Soundscan,I've tried to round up the information on select titles
before,but the company doesn't really want to part with that info. As
we supply the current sales figures for our store,you'd think they'd
be willing to supply that info. there is a weekly report they can send
me each week,but I rarely go with that. A couple of years back Karen
from Oxygen had made a comment to me that the "Human Nature" release
had only sold 6000 copies or so,and this was a couple of months after
its release--disappointing to say the least considering the attention
the project recieved. If I find out any additional information,I will
pass the sales figures on. I can add that as recently as 1996,Joel
Whitburns book "top pop LP's 1955-1996" had the following America
LP's certifed as Platinum(1 million or more sold):
2)History(1975--4million and counting)
The following LP's were certified as "gold"(500,000 copies)

Message: 12770 Posted: Thu Jul 27 20:15:57 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Trivia Question Revisited

Let's try another trivia question. Down, Shayne, down!!! (LOL)

Same rules: E-MAIL ME your answer and DO NOTpost to the folder, here. This will allow others a chance to answer, if interested.

I wasn't going to touch this one, but I can't think of any other questions. Here we go:

Name the two co-writers of "How Could I Turn You Away" AND who sings lead vocals.

Okay, Go Shayne Go! By the way, Shayne, you made me laugh with your excitement over the last triv question. No more hitting yourself in the head, okay?

(Dan: I have disc 2, track 15 memorized!)

Message: 12769 Posted: Thu Jul 27 19:33:22 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re:New Jersey

Thinking about taking the trip out there but don't have anyone to go with so might not do it. Any of you guys going to Readington????

Message: 12768 Posted: Thu Jul 27 18:22:39 2000 By: Dan
Subject: Highway Ramblings

Whew.... Just got caught up on the postings of the last 10 days. My poor luck on the TNN special. I was on the road back from sunny Florida and missed it. Went out yesterday and shelled out $49.85 for the box set of all box sets. I have to concur that the crispness is clearly evident on these discs. I read the complete book before I even listened and then I cheated and listened to all the remixes, demo's and the two new ones first. I agree with you Johnny about liking Who Loves You best. Also really got into Saturn Nights for some odd reason. In response to Dewey not hitting the high notes; I saw them live in June and he had no problem with them, in fact he never sounded better IMOP. Hey Jim R., I hope you make the show this weekend to make up for the fantastic one you missed in June. We would like to hear about it Monday. Sorry this is long winded and until next time. DanC.

Message: 12767 Posted: Thu Jul 27 17:34:12 2000 By: Steve
Subject: Re: America

The only song that I noticed Dewey struggling on was "Lonely People", but the Dan's voice is higher than Deweys. I have performed music live for 12 years and I can tell you that a band is only as good as its sound engineer. Maybe Deweys monitor wasn't set exactly to his liking. I thought he sounded great on all of his other songs...Just on mans opinion. AMERICA keep on rockin'!

Message: 12766 Posted: Thu Jul 27 15:53:12 2000 By: Beth
Subject: Got Mine!

Arrived at my mailbox today...only to find a little pink slip saying, "There's a package we couldn't fit in here, please pick it up at the Post Office." was ten to five, and I live about 15 minutes from town....BUT! I managed to make it back to town with a few moments to spare!!

I'm a little outta breath from dancing around my living room to The Border!! YeeeeHa!!!

Trying to read the book and the phone keeps ringing! Solve that, get on the Net!!

Stay Tuned!

Message: 12765 Posted: Thu Jul 27 15:20:52 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Record Sales

Steve and Rob:

I believe if you copy and paste this address you should be able to get the info you crave! RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America)administers the Gold and Platinum albums, they have a nice little search engine for archiving such things!

TkH<-----anyone know a good roofer?

Message: 12764 Posted: Thu Jul 27 15:02:17 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: HERE'S A RARETY/Shayne

That would be it!!!!!

TkH<----stop the RAIN!!!! ugh.

Message: 12763 Posted: Thu Jul 27 15:00:50 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: HERE'S A RARETY

Hey Howie! Yeah I have this on cassette! It's GREAT!

TkH<--------feeling pretty rare, meself!

Message: 12762 Posted: Thu Jul 27 13:35:05 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: Trivia Question Time!

OUCH. I just slapped myself on the head for not reading Johnny's requirements for the quiz. My apologies. I wondered why no one else was responding.


Message: 12761 Posted: Thu Jul 27 13:01:51 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Trivia Question Time!

Shayne you win at the fastest fingers, but loose at Following Directions ( ;)

Message: 12760 Posted: Thu Jul 27 12:56:47 2000 By: red oak
Subject: Re: America

I agree. Maybe the vocal chords were tired from all the shows they do. Still, at 50 years old how many of us could hit any notes at all. I was disapointed that Gerry only sang Sister Golden Hair. Anyway, a little raspy America is better than no America. The number of shows done over the years has to take its toll sometime.

Message: 12759 Posted: Thu Jul 27 12:22:12 2000 By: Jeremy01
Subject: America

As much as I'll always love their sound, I have to admit you can tell Dewey struggles just a little to hit some of the high notes (like on TNN show)... at least we know he doesn't have to use any machines to clean it up. Can't wait to see them in PA on the 26th.

Message: 12758 Posted: Thu Jul 27 12:03:30 2000 By: Brad Askew
Subject: Robert W. Morgan and other shows

I have a copy of the Robert W. Morgan show some of you were discussing. I believe it was from 1979. I also have many other radio shows with interviews with Gerry and Dewey. I also have numerous live shows of the band and videos, too including the new TNN if someone needs it. I would love to trade with other fans out there for tapes I don't have. Brad

Message: 12757 Posted: Thu Jul 27 11:31:52 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: Trivia Question Time!

When did OJ have time to write a book? I thought he was busy looking for the real killers.


Message: 12756 Posted: Thu Jul 27 10:39:15 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Trivia Question Time!

Yes Sir, Shayne! You are correct. I appreciate your exuberance. You win a book called, "How To Play By The Rules" written by OJ Simpson.

I'm sorry...I just had to rib you a little. :0 )

Message: 12755 Posted: Thu Jul 27 09:40:09 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: Trivia Question Time!

This mwas too easy (once I got Steve's hint). This is from the lyrics page for "FAMT":"It's about life on the road. We'd always said that our career was like a speeding train. I saw a photo on a cover of a Graham Greene novel I was reading, and it was a lovely picture taken from a train as it curved around. The title with the photo credit said, 'From a moving train.' I'm very happy with that song. Timothy Schmit sang on that one."


P.S. What do I win???

Message: 12754 Posted: Thu Jul 27 09:14:59 2000 By: BobT
Subject: Re: Where The TNN Show Was Taped

Thanks for the info Johnny!!


Message: 12753 Posted: Thu Jul 27 08:18:13 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Record Sales

Rob, I don't know where to go to "easily" find the actual number of sales of an album. I presume you'd have to check with the record label and even then I don't know if they'd share that information or not. I guess you could try calling or writing WB and/or Capitol and see what they say. Does anyone else know if the information is available?

Message: 12752 Posted: Thu Jul 27 08:15:11 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Trivia Question Time!

Great trivia question Johnny. Let me just say that I know the answer and I know that you know I know the answer (did everyone get that??). I'll also give a hint. The answer to the question can be found somewhere on the America Fans web site.

Message: 12751 Posted: Thu Jul 27 07:26:03 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Mitchum and Stillwater

We were planning on going to Stillwater, stay in a hotel (5 & make it a family event. BUT my wife got called in to work days this weekend, & I'm watching the boys. I was really looking foward to hearing the new songs on the setlist, & meeting other America Fans from this chat board. I'm SO BUMMED!!!
Oh well, what can you do? I guess it will be Go Man Go, Like A Brother, Highway & a 6-pack for me this wkend.


Message: 12750 Posted: Thu Jul 27 06:48:48 2000 By: Rob
Subject: Record Sales

Message to Steve or John C.--

Is there anywhere we could easily find the actual number of sales of an album? Not just whether it was certified gold or platinum, but actual sales, and maybe even sales by country? I think it would be kinda neat to see "what" and "where" the big sales were and are?

Message: 12749 Posted: Thu Jul 27 06:26:41 2000 By: holiday
Subject: ultimate collection

I am new to the net and very happy to have found the America home page!!
What about some discussion on America's Ultimate Collection - limit to their top 20. Mine would be as follows:
Horse with no name
Ventura Highway
I need you
California revisited
Don't cross the river
Muskrat love
Tin man
Lonely people
Baby it's up to you
Sister golden hair
Today's the day
Amber cascades
The border
You can do magic
Can't fall asleep to a lullaby
Mirror to Mirror (to bring us up to the '90's)

I have not seen "Highway" yet, but would like to see an all time hits collection on one CD. I would also like to see them bring out further new material - new "Horizons" for the new millenium maybe?
Does anyone from down under remember a hit from 1972 called "Open Up Your Heart" by G.Wayne Thomas. I would love to hear a Gerry Beckley version of this song. It has a real 'America' feel and sound. Russ Ballard wrote some great songs for the group - why not try this formula again with some of the great past songs from down under?.
Roll on America - let's find some new Highways.
Chris Holyday

Message: 12748 Posted: Thu Jul 27 05:57:11 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: HERE'S A RARETY


I hope all is well.

Do you recall the opening song? I used to ahve this copied on tape, but it is long since lost. I believe the opening when something like this:


Oh, musical for melody
For verbalizing harmony
This trios songs won fame
America, America
Beckley, Bunnell shed Peek
And now these two are here with you
On the Special Of The Week.

Or something like that.

Y'now I can't remember what I had for breakfast this morning....


Message: 12747 Posted: Thu Jul 27 05:51:46 2000 By: sylvain
Subject: TNN 2 for 1 show

Had to tape the show on TNN because I was working late. I really like the way they went from America to BS&T. I was lucky (or unlucky) to see both these bands only once. They both reflected well the music and the fans.
Too many people out there think that both America and BS&T were bands that only had hits in the 70's. Boths these bands songs have proven themself classic in every way music should, by stiring up memories and actual specific periods in time and space as some of the interviews indicated.
David Clayton-Thomas is another one of the fine people from the Great White North.
Sorry for the long post.


Message: 12746 Posted: Thu Jul 27 05:34:10 2000 By: Howard Lieboff

Forgot to mention this America Rarety, which is excellent:
This was released on a album, if you can find it at record conventions. I know some people that have a copy of it here.
I think in 1975 or 1976, it was an hour special I think,
Robert W. Morgan profiles "America". Robert talks, plays songs and Gerry, Dewey and Dan talk about songs, life, etc. Anyone hear this or have it? It's excellent.

Message: 12745 Posted: Thu Jul 27 05:00:20 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: TNN America show

Hey Bones....

I bought it JUST for "Shep"!!!!!

TkH<-------no Shep, but do have a

Message: 12744 Posted: Thu Jul 27 03:46:55 2000 By: SUAT
Subject: tv show

how can watch the show on tv(tnn) , ıs ıt possıble to watch them on internet (i live in turkey ).
ı am so glad ıf you can solve my problem

Message: 12743 Posted: Wed Jul 26 21:23:31 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Trivia Question Time!

We haven't had a trivia question for quite some time. How about doing it a little bit different this time? Instead of posting your answer directly to the chat folder, send your answer directly to me online. This will give others (especially those who log-on later) the same opportunity to answer the question.

Here it is: What inspired Gerry to use the song title, "From A Moving Train"?

Remember, DON'T post your answer directly to the chat folder. Instead, send it to me. I will let everyone know who has answered the question correctly as I receive them. Show us your brains NOW!

Message: 12742 Posted: Wed Jul 26 20:41:36 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: winery show

Thanks for the update Erin. Doesn't surpise me however. dd is STILL waiting for her promised copy of History ( and totally bummed that it never came). What do you expect given all the other things that were wrong with that interview? sheesh!

Message: 12741 Posted: Wed Jul 26 20:04:05 2000 By: Randy
Subject: Mitchum and Stillwater

As Robert Mitchum said to Gregory Peck at the end of "Cape Fear" - "Go ahead, kill me, - I just don't give a damn!" (or something similar to it). Yes, I'll be at Stillwater on Saturday. More on that later. - Randy

Message: 12740 Posted: Wed Jul 26 18:35:18 2000 By: Spurs
Subject: The Future

Hello everyone,once again this is proving to be another exceptional year for our chaps,realease of the Rhino triple set,T.V.appearances,and as usual a busy concert schedule.Also a vast amount of "America" material realeased in some sort or another i.e."View from the Ground" repackaged and a "Best of America"solely an Australian output which would be the same as the two other best ofs released by Capitol,also rumour of another triple set down under which I will try and "sniff out"on my next trip to the smoke,and then there has been Gerrys solo effort,plus Beckley Lamb and Wilson.As for America's future, I'd say was pretty bright Oxygen seemingly are happy to do another project with the guys,and I know I have championed Oxygen before but they have been responsible for new America music without constraint,and have done more to promote America in all the time they were with Capitol,and then there is the internet which is becoming increasingly important,which has some radio stations looking nervously over their shoulders.

Message: 12739 Posted: Wed Jul 26 18:03:29 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Where The TNN Show Was Taped

City: Nashville
Place: Wildhorse Saloon
Date: As Steve said, May 25

Bob, is this what you're looking for?

Message: 12738 Posted: Wed Jul 26 14:59:46 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: TNN Show

Bob, I'm not sure WHERE the show was taped but I know that it was filmed on May 25th. There wasn't a public concert on that date so it was either filmed at a private gig or specifically for the TV show.


Message: 12737 Posted: Wed Jul 26 14:32:17 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Mitchum Junction

Not that Dewey's song titles have always been repeated in the lyrics, but the "unfinished" song Mitchum Junction has me wondering.

Railroad smoke sifting through the strong Southern sky.
"I always thought that one day I'd see you die,"
Said the man at the junction
To the boy in conjunction
With the murder of a man.
With the murder of a man.

This sounds like it could be the beginning of a classic Robert Mitchum movie. Could that be the Mitchum in the Junction?
Like a kid whose attention is now captive, I can only timidly say: "Mr. Bunnell, can you please tell me the rest of the story?"
(And, so help me, if any of you get me going with another Purple Ghost of England story, I'll scream. And then they'll take me away in the nice comfy white jacket whose arms tie in back.)

Jim R.

Message: 12736 Posted: Wed Jul 26 14:19:50 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: A great week in America history

Is this a great America week, or what?

The TNN Classic Rock show was so good, I'm thinking about making it a regular part of my viewing when new shows are aired. The show format had warmth, though the fan-appreciative attitude of Dewey and Gerry undoubtedly helped the format succeed. And let's be fair. David Clayton-Thomas was equally as wonderful *and* in good, classic voice.

What I really appreciated about the show was the song-specific interview pieces and their juxtaposition within the songs. The comments were interesting, relevant, and fun. For me, I got added pleasure of seeing Gerry and Dewey talking, with the VCR making sure this segment becomes part of my all-too-limited audio-visual America collection. (Johnny, you and I both have this one on tape now! For once, we don't have to scramble to do a tape exchange, like the one we never did. LOL)

With the boxed set arriving Monday (and playing as I type this) and the TNN show playing Tuesday, this has been one heck of a great America week so far. Topping it off? America in Stillwater, Minn., on Saturday! Hopefully, Eddy and Randy will be there too. Anyone else?

Jim R.

Message: 12735 Posted: Wed Jul 26 14:11:37 2000 By: BobT
Subject: TNN Show

I too really enjoyed the show on TNN last night. Does anyone know when that show took place? I didn't see it listed on this year's or last year's concert listings.


Message: 12734 Posted: Wed Jul 26 14:01:30 2000 By: Erin
Subject: winery show's what happened. Kevin arranged to have the tickets put under my name (thanks again Kevin...I really appreciate everything you did!!) We got to the winery when the gates opened, and the will call people had no idea what I was talking about when I told them about the contest. They had no record of Kevin's name ANYWHERE, so the tickets weren't under his name or mine. They couldn't understand why an LA radio station would have given away tickets to a Northern California concert. Anyway, my very understanding boyfriend paid for general admission tickets. We waited in line for awhile and then basically went and sat in the front row of the reserved seats. Right in front of the stage...great seats!! No one told us to move, so we sat there for the whole show. They were awesome. It was so neat to see them somewhere other than a casino! Then some Rick fans asked us if they could have our seats, so we left after America played. So that's what happened. It's no one's fault but the winery...I guess. Thank you Steve and Kevin, for the opportunity to go to the show, even if the free tickets didn't quite work out. It was totally worth the drive, and it was a nice little vacation!! Thanks again!!

Erin :o)

Message: 12733 Posted: Wed Jul 26 13:01:40 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: But Gary, Why?

Gary, you forgot to answer the "WHY?" question. (LOL)

For those of you who didn't see the show, Gerry commented that a number of loyal fans have seen their concerts at least 30 times. Gerry asked, in a very humorous way, "Why?". Of course, we all know the obvious answer.

Message: 12732 Posted: Wed Jul 26 09:44:59 2000 By: gary
Subject: TNN

I thoroughly enjoyed the TNN special last night. I was worried that our guys would be overshadowed by Blood, Sweat & Tears but I was pleasantly surprised. It was just about even as far as time allocation. The songs played were Ventura, Sister, Lonely People, Tin Man and Horse. The interviews were mixed in with the songs and really did not detract from the performance at all. It was very interesting listening to them talk about the songs simultaneously as they were being performed. I did notice that the end of Sister was shortened and the third verse of Tin Man was totally eliminated. They could have shortened a couple of those BS&T songs (lol) but overall I think our guys were much better and hopefully this exposure will help. I was very impressed with Gerry’s closing remarks. “You can’t have a career without people coming to see you. You can’t have successful records without people buying those records. I would like to think that nobody is more aware of that than Dewey and I. We are ever grateful.” Imagine!!!! A band that actually gets it!!!! Those three sentences are what separates America from all those other wannabes out there. Those simple words are what makes America the greatest band in the world, without peer. One of my other favorite bands that has actually been around longer than America does not “get it” and never will get it. ( I will not mention any names…..hint, they are British). They have a condescending attitude towards their fans. Their assumption is that “if you don’t buy our CD someone else will. If you don’t buy a ticket to our show, there is always someone out there who will. We could care less. We are great and we know it and we don’t give a damn about YOU!!!”. They absolutely refuse to acknowledge where their paychecks come from. Fans to them are just a necessary evil. After seeing America so many times, It has gotten to the point that I can’t even stand to watch some of these other bands. Just watching them perform makes me ill. They stand up there on stage like automatons with hardly any interaction with the audience. They act as if they would rather be anywhere but there. Then when the show is over, they break the sound barrier going to the bus or the limo to get out of there as soon as possible. America would never subject their fans to this type of behavior. I know that they are genuinely sincere when they say that they are grateful to their fans. Ok, well that’s enough of that. I am off my soapbox now.

If anyone missed the TNN special last night and would like a tape of the show, e-mail me and I will send you a copy.


Message: 12731 Posted: Wed Jul 26 08:45:25 2000 By: dofd
Subject: TNN show

Like a lot of you, apparently, I was pleasantly surprised by the show. Could have done with a little less Blood, Sweat & Tears. Nothing against BS&T, but it was sort of a strange contrast of musical styles. I thought Dewey and Gerry were not only outstanding musically, as usual, but their senses of humor really came through. TV's a good medium for them; here's hoping for more exposure in the future.

Didn't buy "Elvis Country," but was really tempted to pay $25 for the five hand-painted quarters.

Message: 12730 Posted: Wed Jul 26 07:03:45 2000 By: Bones
Subject: Re: TNN America show

Did anyone order - ELVIS COUNTRY - from last nights show? Boy that ELVIS can sing it all

Message: 12729 Posted: Wed Jul 26 06:10:06 2000 By: Nina
Subject: TNN America Special

Was pleasantly surprised last night! "Our boys" were given enough time to perform more than one song! Although I was hoping we'd see all the songs taped by America that night, I was afraid the show would be a "little bit of this...and a little bit of that" with lots of other bands on hand. "America" in my living room....does life get any better than this? I just loved Dewey consistently getting the station break wrong! Then, Gerry valiantly taking over...and messing it up, too! Had me laughing out loud! The nod to the fans at the end was extra special, but typically "America"! These are two gracious and CLASSY guys. Great job!


Message: 12728 Posted: Wed Jul 26 05:55:30 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: America / TNN

Finally found TNN on my cable systems.........CHANNEL 73!!!
Every year, my cable system flips around the channels.

Anyway.........The guys were great! Interview segments were great.
We need more of them on TV for exposure!

Hey, let's start our own cable channel! VHAMERICA....MTVAMERICA!

Message: 12727 Posted: Wed Jul 26 05:30:42 2000 By: Pete
Subject: Re: TNN America show

I knew I forgot one, Ventura Highway. Thank-you

Message: 12726 Posted: Wed Jul 26 05:25:59 2000 By: Mike Bunn
Subject: Re: TNN America show

They also did Ventura Highway at the opening of the broadcast.

Message: 12725 Posted: Wed Jul 26 05:10:59 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: TNN format

Very nice format on the show-not just music, not just interviews, nothing took away from either! Great pace, very enjoyable hour! Now if those people would just go out and produce Baseball, it would make our lives all THAT much more rich (maybe I'd actually LIKE, don't tell the husband!--ROFL)

TkH<---still wakes up from the camera nightmare! "ready 3-TAKE 3-NO, NO, NO-3 WHAT ARE YOU DOING???????" lol

Message: 12724 Posted: Wed Jul 26 04:39:32 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: TNN America show

I thought it was very good, maybe w/this box set they will get more TV appearances. VH-1, are you listening?!!

Message: 12723 Posted: Wed Jul 26 04:30:05 2000 By: Pete
Subject: TNN America show

Great to see America on TV last night. The songs they did were, Lonley people, Tin man, Sister golden hair, Horse with no name. I also thought Blood sweat and tears did a good job. Wish they would put these guys on TV more often. They did a great job.

Message: 12722 Posted: Wed Jul 26 04:27:19 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: TNN

It was better than I thought it would be. I never trust these specials and was happily surprised of the length they showed America and the interviews. When you see this, (and if you didn't know the artists) you think are they really like that in person? Appreciating their fans like late and the repore with themselves? It's great to know that Gerry and Dewey are exactly like that in person.

Message: 12721 Posted: Wed Jul 26 03:52:04 2000 By: Margaret
Subject: TNN

Could someone who was fortunate enough to see TNN please outline what happened for those of us who were not able to see it? Thanks.

Message: 12720 Posted: Tue Jul 25 21:05:54 2000 By: GerryK
Subject: TNN

Good program ..... Gerry's closing comments concerning the band's
connection w/ the fans were outstanding ... they've certainly enriched my life w/ their music

Message: 12719 Posted: Tue Jul 25 20:19:59 2000 By: Bones
Subject: Re: TNN

I've never seen 20 or 30 shows in one year but the shows i have seen, for that 60 minutes or 90 minutes all problems are forgotten and I leave feeling pretty good. The morning after though I have to cope with an AMERICA hangover.

Message: 12718 Posted: Tue Jul 25 20:16:16 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: TNN

I really enjoyed watching Gerry and Dewey kidding around. I liked how TNN allowed Gerry and Dewey (and David Clayton-Thomas) to talk about the meaning of each song. I especially liked Dewey's story about the "bench on the highway in the sunshine" and Gerry's story about "the dresses".

Message: 12717 Posted: Tue Jul 25 20:00:35 2000 By: daisyjane64
Subject: TNN

The show was excellent.Wish they would do more stuff on tv.Guys keep up the great work.

Message: 12716 Posted: Tue Jul 25 19:54:56 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: TNN...

My family enjoyed the show. ...Up way past our bedtimes though.


Message: 12715 Posted: Tue Jul 25 19:33:36 2000 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Boys of Summer

tell him your the scare-crow, if that doesn't work, see me next month, I'm sure I'll have a few students that won't be using their brains this coming school year.

Message: 12714 Posted: Tue Jul 25 18:46:55 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Boys of Summer

He "never did give nothing to the Tin man that he didn't didn't already have."

However Andy, I do believe you are a lost cause ;0)

Message: 12713 Posted: Tue Jul 25 18:43:13 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Boys of Summer

Andy, take a trip to the wonderful land of OZ, I think the wizard can help you.

Ummmm...Call me a skeptic, but if the Wizzard did give nothing to the Tin Man, what's he going to do for me????



Message: 12712 Posted: Tue Jul 25 18:28:32 2000 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Boys of Summer

Andy, take a trip to the wonderful land of OZ, I think the wizard can help you.

Message: 12711 Posted: Tue Jul 25 14:29:01 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Boys of Summer

"...It got to the point where if I go to a game NOW, all I have running thru my head is "Just A Little Of Nothing........" LOL! Aren't brains just the funniest things?"

I dunno. When I get one, I'll let you know...LOL


Message: 12710 Posted: Tue Jul 25 13:53:39 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: B/L/W CD Signing October 1

Sniff... I have a Barnes & Noble a mere eight miles from my house. Gerry, are you listening? -- Jim R.

Message: 12709 Posted: Tue Jul 25 13:44:01 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Pick A Disc!!!

no, No, NO. Please don't make me pick. I can't do it. Split loyalties causing havoc. Implosion imminent.

Ok, make it disc two. No, wait. One. Maybe three. (Large sucking sound is heard as Jim implodes.)

Message: 12708 Posted: Tue Jul 25 13:43:02 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Pick A Disc!!!

I'm with you Johnny. Today, that is my favorite disc. Another Try is my absolute favorite song.

Message: 12707 Posted: Tue Jul 25 13:23:01 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: B/L/W CD Signing October 1

Actually already have Gerry's signature and hope to get Robert Lamm's at a benefit next month--so I will only be missing Carl's and do not hope to get that in the near future!!!

Message: 12706 Posted: Tue Jul 25 13:21:42 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: B/L/W CD Signing October 1

That's great for those in L.A. Any chance they do the same thing in NYC???

Message: 12705 Posted: Tue Jul 25 10:49:31 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: B/L/W CD Signing October 1

Thanks Steve! It's on my calendar!

Message: 12704 Posted: Tue Jul 25 09:00:30 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Nashville Network.

Thanks Kevin, Gary, and Jeremy for the information on the broadcast. Here's a direct link to the broadcast information for those who are interested:

Message: 12703 Posted: Tue Jul 25 08:20:08 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Pick A Disc!!!

Rob, today (it may be different tomorrow), I'd pick disc 2. I love two of the three alternate mixes on it. Plus, Green Monkey, Another Try, and Baby It's Up To You, all should have been hits, in my opinion. I just can't believe the latter two were never released as singles.

Talk about a "hat trick", from Holiday, it would have been Tin Man, Lonely People, and Another Try or Baby It's Up To You. That would have meant one hit from each of the three guys.

Message: 12702 Posted: Tue Jul 25 07:58:51 2000 By: Jeremy01
Subject: songs

I saw their show last week in Cuyahoga Falls, OH, and was pleasantly surprised by how great their slower stuff sounded. Only In Your Heart was one of the best songs of the show. I get to see them again in Burgettstown, PA, and then again (if the show is still on) in Twinsburg, OH. Keep Rockin'

Message: 12701 Posted: Tue Jul 25 07:54:28 2000 By: Jeremy01
Subject: America

Expect 7-8 old songs and 2 new ones to be played tonight on the Nashville network.

Message: 12700 Posted: Tue Jul 25 07:12:19 2000 By: gary
Subject: Re: Nashville Network.

That same article that Kevin is referring to also mentions "The band's hits include "I Need You," "Ventura Highway," "Tin Man," "Lonely People," "Sister Golden Hair" and "You Can Do Magic." Among the many hits the band will perform on the special are "A Horse With No Name" and "Ventura Highway."

Of course "many" is an ambiguous term but 1)it is only an hour show 2)there will be numerous commercials 3)BS&T are also performing 4) Willie told me they he could not remember the exact number, but he thought that they recorded six songs in Nashville.

So my guess is five songs (Ventura, Horse, Tin Man, Magic and Sister).


Message: 12699 Posted: Tue Jul 25 06:54:05 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Nashville Network.

I just looked up the Nashville Network on the Internet and there's a small article on the America/Blood Sweat and Tear concert tonight. The article features a large picture of Beckley and Bunnell on stage, with a picture of the box set, and links to buy it. Go to: and look to the bottom left, you'll see a little blurb on the concert. Click on that and you'll get the article.


Message: 12698 Posted: Tue Jul 25 06:39:04 2000 By: Pete
Subject: America on TV

I believe tonight is the night America is on TV. Does anyone know if they are going to be playing for the whole hour or are they just going to be doing a couple songs. The new box set is great.

Message: 12697 Posted: Tue Jul 25 05:46:29 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Johnny

Thanks for the welcome back Johnny,
Crohn's is a god awful disease to deal with
and especially have. But for a kid to have it is a crime in itself.

Message: 12696 Posted: Tue Jul 25 05:42:08 2000 By: Rob
Subject: Pick A Disc!!!

If you had to pick ONE DISC out of the three in box set to play, which would it be? I think it would say a lot about the era of "America" music you like best. The beginnings. The George Martin Years. Or the Two-some years.

In another note, as I contemplate their years in this anthology-like moment, I really think that "Hourglass" and particularly "Young Moon" ranks among their very, very best.

Message: 12695 Posted: Tue Jul 25 05:03:37 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Boys of Summer

Ugh. Baseball (sorry). I used to take my America CD's all the time to the park (to drown my sorrows, I found the best one to listen to was Hat Trick! It was mellow enough to keep me from working TOO hard but rocking enough to keep me away during those LONG dreary periods between pregame interviews and air time!!!! It got to the point where if I go to a game NOW, all I have running thru my head is "Just A Little Of Nothing........" LOL! Aren't brains just the funniest things?

TkH<------taken 2 too many BBalls and one too many

Message: 12694 Posted: Mon Jul 24 22:45:01 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Howie!

Howie, welcome back! Glad to hear that things are looking up for Stephen. I had a female co-worker who suffered from Crohn's. I know it can be very, very tough.

Any fellow fans or their family members have fibromyalgia? It's no fun either, believe me!

Message: 12693 Posted: Mon Jul 24 20:50:04 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: B/L/W CD Signing October 1

I received a message from Betty Collignon who organizes The Carl Wilson Walk Against Cancer. With help from Transparent Records there will be a CD signing in Long Beach, California, Sunday October 1, 2000. Here's the official information:

Sunday,October l, 2000, Gerry Beckley, Robert Lamm, Jonah Wilson, Justyn Wilson and Billy Hinsche will be at Barnes and Noble in store signing of "Beckley, Lamm, Wilson" in Long Beach. It will take place at 2:00 p.m. at the Barnes & Noble 7651 Carson Blvd. Long Beach, CA 90808

Message: 12692 Posted: Mon Jul 24 20:45:19 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Highway Box Set

Michael, the scroll bars are controlled by your browser, not by the Chat Folder software. So, if they're not working it's either a problem with your keyboard or with your browser (I would suspect the keyboard - but who knows for sure?).

Message: 12691 Posted: Mon Jul 24 20:44:16 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Highway: Rainbow Song or Moon Song ??

Great detective work, Pat. As Andy and Gary have already pointed out, you're exactly right about the lyrics being from Moon Song rather than Rainbow Song. I guess with all of the scrutiny from the fans, we'll find anything that's not exactly right.

Message: 12690 Posted: Mon Jul 24 19:00:13 2000 By: Janice
Subject: To Howie

I am very sorry about Steven..Like others have mentioned, I also know firsthand how heart-wrenching seeing your child in pain can be..Each of my 3 boys had serious illnesses as very small children, (meningitis, Reyes Syndrome and even Ronnie had 2 surgeries before he was 3 months). I think I died 3 for more kids for me..I don't have the luxury of having 9 lives..hang in there..big HUG for Steven (and for mom and dad). :-)

Message: 12689 Posted: Mon Jul 24 18:48:46 2000 By: Janice
Subject: re: Highway Box Set

What a pleasant surprise in my mailbox today! I only had a chance to scan the pages (it's late here!)..but it looks terrific!
Michael, I took Nina's advice and bought it from Collector's Choice..ordered it on Thurs so they were very fast in shipping..great price too..$39.83 was my total. Their number is 800 494-2211 or go to I don't know how long that price will be good but it is worth checking into..

Message: 12688 Posted: Mon Jul 24 18:28:32 2000 By: Michael Baratta
Subject: Highway Box Set

Just got back from vacation & haven't had a chance to pick up the box set yet.It sounds like a winner judging from all the positive chat(I didn't expect any different reaction)Can anyone tell me what store seems to have the best price?
Steve a question for you.The scroll up & down arrows on my keyboard sometimes work & sometimes don't on the chat folder.Is it my keyboard or does anyone else have this happen to them?

Message: 12687 Posted: Mon Jul 24 18:25:23 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: One Month to go !

Only one month to go to the America show in Delaware. You know what's the coolest thing about the venue?? Look up the name of the town that the show will be in...That's the 8/24/00 show. This is too funny :))


Message: 12686 Posted: Mon Jul 24 18:16:14 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Highway: Rainbow Song or Moon Song ??

Give Pat an autographed copy of HAT TRICK !! That is indeed MOON SONG, not RAINBOW SONG.


Message: 12685 Posted: Mon Jul 24 17:40:22 2000 By: gary
Subject: Re: Highway: Rainbow Song or Moon Song ??

Good eye Pat! You are absolutely correct. Those are not the words to Rainbow Song, but are in fact the words to Moon Song. Oh well, it's the thought that counts.


Message: 12684 Posted: Mon Jul 24 16:50:09 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Sheltering Sky

ANyone have any idea whether the super literate Mr. Beckly was challenging us to read ( or re-read) the classic book by Paul Bowles? THe song has the same dreamy/moody quality.

Just a thought.

Message: 12683 Posted: Mon Jul 24 16:41:53 2000 By: Pat B.
Subject: Highway: Rainbow Song or Moon Song ??

Hi Everyone;

I just finished reading the booklet. Please correct me if I'm wrong; but I believe I discovered a serious mis-quote of lyrics to one of the songs. On page 32, the lyrics to Rainbow Song are quoted as: "a case of beer, a smile, a motorcycle child, I feel the glow surround me". These are NOT the lyrics to RAINBOW SONG! These are the lyrics to MOON SONG!!! Page 69 claims that these are the lyrics to Rainbow Song! However, my AMERICA COMPLETE songbook shows differently! PatB

Steve, can you verify?

Message: 12682 Posted: Mon Jul 24 15:57:56 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: re: Baseball and music...

Jim, .125 is better than .000 ...Besides, if you don't have a lot of at bats a couple of 2 or 3 hit games might jump you over the Mendoza line.


Message: 12681 Posted: Mon Jul 24 15:34:24 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: This 'n That

Thanks, Johnny. I'm on the road to catching up with everyone's interesting comments, now that "Highway" arrived (via Priority Mail, as it turnsout) arrived today. I'm almost overwhelmed with the package of material to read and listen to.

The good news is that I'll have some relatively fresh listening material on the drive from Milwaukee to Stillwater, MN, for the America concert there this weekend. (A note is coming to you off-folder, Randy.) Hope the weather stays as nice as it has been for the past two weeks.

Jim R.

Message: 12680 Posted: Mon Jul 24 15:26:27 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Baseball and music...

Well, Jeff, I like to listen to "A Horse with No Name" and as much of the "History" CD that I can listen to while I'm driving to my Sunday games. But I'm hitting .125 in Senior League (amateur 30 and older) baseball, so I certainly won't do America any good by admitting it. A few more games like the previous 12 and I'm afraid I'll have to slip in some John Fogarty ("Put me in, coach. I'm ready to play to today") just to have a hope of playing.

Jim R.

Message: 12679 Posted: Mon Jul 24 12:44:55 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Grassroots

Silly me, I could forget such classics!

Message: 12678 Posted: Mon Jul 24 12:41:59 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Grassroots

Hey Howard, you left out:
Midnight Confession
Glory Bound
Temptation Eyes
and my personal fav A Million Years.

Uh ... but I'm sure I'm not as old as you guys. I just just know all these oldies because ... uhhh ... I like to listen to oldies radio. Yeah, that's it! I just listen to oldies, I'm not really old.

Message: 12677 Posted: Mon Jul 24 11:49:39 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Grassroots

Howie, besides the Grassroots Greatest Hits CD I'm also the owner of several of their albums on cassette tape which I've owned since the late 60's or early 70's. So, if it shows your age I guess it shows mine even more. They were a favorite band of mine (before America got together, of course).

Message: 12676 Posted: Mon Jul 24 11:32:10 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Grassroots

Big hits also were:
"Two divided by love"
"Sooner or Later"
"Let's Live for today"
"Where were you When I needed you"
"Lovin' Things"
etc. Does my age show or what?

Message: 12675 Posted: Mon Jul 24 11:05:57 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Falls river, Mass

The Gras Roots are a60's icon. Their big hit was Midnight Confession. ( I went to Elemenatary school with the drummer's sister)


Message: 12674 Posted: Mon Jul 24 10:06:47 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Kids/Mr. H.L.

I'm with Robyn, having a child in the hospital is about the WORST thing. I'D much rather have that experience than have either of my kids go thru anything like that! I hope Steven continues improving and I hope this new drug is THE ONE!!!!!! (((C=

TkH<-------Virginia or Miami, Virginia or Miami, Virginia or

Message: 12673 Posted: Mon Jul 24 09:01:11 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Falls river, Mass

Darn !! I guess no Fall River for me. Delaware 8/24/00 here I come !!!

Who are the Grass Roots anyway?? I can't say that I remember.


Message: 12672 Posted: Mon Jul 24 08:57:59 2000 By: ANDY

Not that this helps any, but you and your son are in my thoughts. Hang in there :))


Message: 12671 Posted: Mon Jul 24 08:49:20 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Howard & Family

Howie, we are glad to have you back and hope we can support you in any way possible even though we're many miles away. By the way, I've entered the Rhino contest to try to win a copy of Highway and if I do, it's yours! Keep up the faith.

Message: 12670 Posted: Mon Jul 24 08:47:36 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: To Virginia, plus Mt. Winery show

Thanks for the great review Virginia. Now I'm anxious to hear Erin's story about the free tickets.

Message: 12669 Posted: Mon Jul 24 08:46:52 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Stats

Cool stats John. Thanks for sharing them.

Message: 12668 Posted: Mon Jul 24 08:03:48 2000 By: Nina
Subject: Howard & Family


Glad to hear you're back, as I too was wondering about your "disappearance" from the chat folder. Keep weathering the storm as best you can. I know what it's like to have someone you love so much hospitalized for great periods of time with doctors not sure of the reason, then trying to treat the illness blind... the end result almost killing my little sister. (Thankfully, she recovered and is the mother of two!) I remember the screaming and the feeling of helplessness. You somehow dig deep for the strength to get through those endless hospital hours...and your focus changes...and "what" is really important in life becomes crystal clear. Too bad there isn't an easier way to learn life's greatest lessons.


Message: 12667 Posted: Mon Jul 24 07:56:15 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Oh, and one more thing

None of you are going to believe this...
Back in the beginning of June, my son Stephen broke
his arm in Gymnastics. And Today, the cast came off for good
and just has to wear a sling. UNREAL!!! huh?
Yes, this is life at the Lieboff household :0)

Message: 12666 Posted: Mon Jul 24 06:05:56 2000 By: Robyn

Welcome Back Howie. I am glad things are looking up for Steven. Nothing, (IMHO)is worse than having your child in pain and nothing you can do about it. When my dd was in the hopsital for eye surgery, I was a basket case. I hope he continues to improve. You are in our thoughts and prayers.

Message: 12665 Posted: Mon Jul 24 05:22:22 2000 By: Howard Lieboff

Hey everyone,

Thanks Steve for relaying the message. Thanks everyone for your
prayers and well wishes. My family & I really appreciate it.

Here's what happened. June 1999, my son was diagnosed
with Crohn's disease (inflammed ulcers which are in the large and small intestines. For a year before June 1999, Stephen was having
weird symptons, which didn't make sense. From Losing weight, no
appetite, fizzures, naseau, etc. Until a specialist did a colonscopy/endoscopy in June 1999 and Crohn's it was.

With Crohn's, flare ups happen and very excruciating stomach spasms,
which stop Stephen dead in his tracks and roll up into a ball and cry. He's had flare ups in Sept.'99, Jan'2000 and July'2000. But you don't know when it'll flare up.
Also, there is no cure for it, just treatable. You have medications
that'll maintain crohn's. His big problem is that out of all the meds,
he's had bad allergic reactions to them. One called 6mp hospitalized
him over Thanksgiving for about 3 days. He tried methotrexate from February to June 2000. It just didn't work.

Doc did another colonoscopy/endoscopy on June 20th and his large
and small intestines were inflammed. From June 20 to July 2, stomach
spasm started to develop and they were painful. On july 2, we called
doc and didn't like what he heard and had him admitted to hospital.
Over the course of the first week a major flare up occurred and
from blood tests, he developed a bacterial virus infection which
sent him over the edge, painful stomach spasms like you've never saw.
You can hear stephen down the hall screaming. They did tests galore to see if anything else was wrong causing these spasms, upper gi series, lactose tolerance, sonigrams, catscan and blood tests.
finally july 17, he did a big turn around for the better, with 2 different anti-biotics, other meds. They started to kick in. My wife
stayed with him the whole time in the hospital. I was leaving work at 3p, went to hospital and stayed a couple of hours and then went to visit my daughter who was staying at my inlaws.

He's on a large dose of prelone (steroid) which bloats his face and tummy up big and makes him ravishly hungry. His saving grace during
all this was the child life room (arts & Crafts, movies, toys, games, etc) and especially my portable cd player and his music. Unfortunately, it's not America (but he does like America). He's crazy for broadway music. Life hasn't been the same since he saw Peter Pan and Beauty & the Beast in the past year. So, Annie and all those great favorites were blasting throughout the halls of Robert Wood Johnson hospital.

I'm sorry this is long, but since everyone has shown such great compassion for my son, I just wanted thank you all for your encouraging words. You all great and wonderful people. Now, one big America group huggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg!!!!


Message: 12664 Posted: Mon Jul 24 05:18:00 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Falls river, Mass

Acording to another site (Mars talent) the Grass roots will be there--I like them too bit they're no America!!!

Message: 12663 Posted: Sun Jul 23 23:40:17 2000 By: Virginia
Subject: Re: To Virginia, plus Mt. Winery show

To Robyn and Johnny - Yes, my email server is down. There were lots of problems all last week and the problems were supposed to be fixed today (Sunday). Obviously not. AARRGGHH!! Hopefully tomorrow. I'll see what happens when I log on at work in the morning.

I just got back from the Mt. Winery concert and it was great. Short set, as I had predicted. Sixteen songs packed into about an hour. They opened with Ventura Highway, then You Can Do Magic, then all the usual songs along with Wind Wave and Wheels are Turning. The last three, as always, were Sandman, SGH, and HWNN. Really missed not hearing Three Roses and Things We Said Today.

Before the show I spotted Louise and Erin and got to meet both of them for the first time. Also there were long-time fans Sally and Lauren (?), who had been sitting in front of us in Vallejo. It was nice talking to all of you both before and after the show. I'll let Erin tell the story of the tickets she won from Kevin when he offered the ones he won from the Dewey/Kelly Lange interview.

We didn't plan to stay for Rick Springfield, though it appeared that many in the audience were there only for him. Lots of young (and not so young) women with flowers and gifts for him. But while America was on stage I glanced around and there were a lot of fans singing along and enjoying the show, and of course, by the time they got to Sandman, everyone was REALLY into the music. We all have our own idea of what great music is. Rick Springfield doesn't do it for me, but he sure has his legions of fans! To each his own as Gerry so aptly puts it.

After America's set, Gil and I went up above the concert bowl and chatted a bit with Louise and Sally. Then they went back down to join the fray with the fans of Mr. Springfield. We stayed up top and watched from there for Rick's grand entrance. I could only take about five minutes of the first song, then we went off to hang out at the backstage door. Drat! Two sheriff's deputies were there! What to do? I went up to them and in a VERY nice voice I asked if they would PLEASE let me stay there and get my copy of Highway signed when the band came out. They told me no, that I was supposed to be on the other side of the chain. But I just kept the conversation going and they never made me leave. Suddenly, there was Pete. We talked for a bit and I asked him if he could help me get Highway signed and he said he would. Nice guy. Thanks Pete!! I know they were heading off to their hotel, but I did get Gerry's autograph. Never did see Dewey. I have a feeling he was already in the waiting van. Off the vans went into the night and another wonderful America evening came to a close. PS to Louise - you should have gotten Shannon and come back up!

Unless another NorCal date is added to the schedule later, I guess this will be it for me for awhile. I can't complain - two great concerts in ten days. Everyone should be so lucky. Many thanks to Dewey, Gerry, Brad, Michael, Willie, Pete, and Bill for two great evenings of music.

It's nearly midnight - gotta catch some zzzzzzzzzzz's.

Message: 12662 Posted: Sun Jul 23 22:43:06 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Tidbit

By the way, America recorded only one outside song during the entire time they were produced by George Martin -- "Only Game In Town" from Silent Letter.


Message: 12661 Posted: Sun Jul 23 22:40:28 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Stats

I got bored tonight and decided to compute something. There has been a lot of talk about how America went from writing their own material on Warner Brothers to becoming cover artists at Capitol. I wondered how much material was actually cover, and how much was self-written. So here are the results...

The stats only include songs appearing on America albums, not movie themes or side projects. I did not include the re-recordings of "You Can Do Magic" or "Everyone I Meet Is From California" on Hourglass, nor did I include it from the Encore album (since "California Revisited" is already on Homecoming). Material from Highway is not included. Outside material is considered any song that neither Gerry, Dewey, or Dan had a hand in writing. Having gotten that out of the way, here's what I found:

All total, America has released 162 album tracks, of which 139 were written by one or more of the trio. This means America has written 86% of the songs on their albums.

From the 1971-77 Warner Bros. period, America recorded 82 album tracks, of which 80 were self-penned (only "Head & Heart" and "Muskrat Love" were outside material). This comes out to a 98% self-written total -- singer-songwriter heaven!

Critics of the Capitol years note the extent of the outside material, which was significant, but Dewey and Gerry still wrote a majority of the material. They recorded 54 album tracks from 1979 to 1984, 33 of which they wrote, or 62%.

In the post-Capitol era, from 1991-1998 (so far), America has released 26 new album tracks. All 26 were written by either Dewey, Gerry, or both -- 100% of their songs!! You can't beat that!

Yes folks, that what I do with my Sunday nights!


Message: 12660 Posted: Sun Jul 23 21:27:43 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: To Virginia

Virginia, Robyn's right. My message to you from earlier this evening came back undeliverable. The note said it would keep trying to reach you for the next 5 days. It's nothing urgent.

Message: 12659 Posted: Sun Jul 23 21:23:31 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Andy, Regarding This 'n That

Andy, the choices of alternate mixes, technically, would be: Submarine Ladies, Who Loves You, and Watership Down.

Your selection, Satan, would be (technically, again) a demo song. The other demo songs, as you know, are Mitchum Junction, Ventura Highway, James Holladay, and Riverside.

My favorite demo is Riverside and, as mentioned before, my favorite alternate mix is Who Loves You. The latter makes me feel like Gerry is right in my room playing his piano. I absolutely love the crispness of the drums, as well!

My choice of lyrical greatness is: "No fortune pays for wounds like these."

Message: 12658 Posted: Sun Jul 23 21:11:54 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: To Virginia

Your e-mail doesn't seem to be working. I'll call you.

Message: 12657 Posted: Sun Jul 23 20:16:31 2000 By: kiri
Subject: positive vibes for all

once you find yourself in a fan site like this, there is no way you could not be a complete and total fanatic about America - you all just add to the sincerity and heart that makes this band who they are! - don't know all of you who are having struggles right now but i want to send along my own positive karma that has been flowing from everyone else!

been searching around for media reviews of Highway on the net - anyone find any? (like we need someone else to tell us it's great but just curious)

Message: 12656 Posted: Sun Jul 23 19:26:32 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: This 'n That

Well Johnny,
HAT TRICK still remains my all time favourite America song...for my $$
it's one of the high points in the history of recorded music. But, you wanted to know our favourites among the "alternate" versions on HIGHWAY, right? I'll go with SATAN. Like the more refined DONKEY JAW, I can listen to it endlessly.

ANDY---------who still thinks that the line JUST A LITTLE OF NOTHING
IS ALL YOU HAD THE TIME TO GIVE----is a triumph of
lyrical perfection !!!!

Message: 12655 Posted: Sun Jul 23 18:34:44 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re:

Robyn, thanks so much for your kind words about the web site. All I can say is I try to do my best to keep it accurate and current.

Regarding the web site, I must admit that it's a lot easier to remember and type than /america/ but it does have a link to the America Fans web site so it will hopefully steer people who go there to the site that I maintain. I hesitate to call it my site, however, because without all of you wonderful fans who are always contributing information and photos, it would die a very quick death. So I say, thanks to all of you!


Message: 12654 Posted: Sun Jul 23 18:18:42 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: This 'n That

By all means, Robyn...prop the littl' fellow up and shoot away!

Man, I love hearing "Who Loves You" as an alternate mix. It's definitely my favorite of all the alternate mixes. For those who have "Highway", I'm curious to know which is your favorite.

Here's to you, Jim R, hoping you receive "Highway" tomorrow.

Message: 12653 Posted: Sun Jul 23 18:03:10 2000 By: JoanneM
Subject: Howie and family

Dear Howie,

My Best to you and your family.You are a Great person and Father...
I hope for Healthy and Happy days ahead for you and your family......your in my prayers...
your friend, Joanne Meyers

Message: 12652 Posted: Sun Jul 23 17:25:33 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: Baseball and music...

I was reading the paper with the TV on a few days ago when something caught my ear. I think it was ESPN. Anyway, the host was talking about how players like certain songs played when they're coming to bat. It would be nice if M. Mcwire, Sammy Sosa or someone would choose an AMERICA song for their theme song.


Message: 12651 Posted: Sun Jul 23 17:19:09 2000 By: BC
Subject: Highway

Just got back from vacation last week. While "out and about", I found the boxed set in Disc Jockey in Columbia, MO. on Thursday. Very surprised to find it and very happy! Listened to each of the CDs three times on the looooong drive home. Wow! Candy for the ears! As everyone has said, Rhino did a great job at packaging. The book is fantastic. The only problem with the three CDs was....... there just wasn't enough. It made me hungry for more, more, more! More demos from the vaults! More new music! More, more, more! Give me more, more more!

Message: 12650 Posted: Sun Jul 23 16:55:16 2000 By: Joe B
Subject: Re: Newly Discovered America "History"

Apparently our pal Gerry was quite a figure on the 70's L.A. 'scene.'

Message: 12649 Posted: Sun Jul 23 16:52:23 2000 By: Joe B
Subject: Newly Discovered America "History"

Hey You People,

In reading a biography of Beach Boys drummer Dennis Wilson, I stumbled across this little gem (context - a 1974 party at the Hollywood Hills home of a musician)

"Dennis(Wilson) settled in for an unforgettable night, one he would soon immortalize in song. He recorded a wonderful duet with Gerry Beckley of America celebrating their Miller Drive (location of the house) memories. As he and Beckly trade lead vocals, the listener is drawn to the attractive contrast in their singing styles - it all works beautifully. The song, however, was never released. It's repeated use of foul language ensured that the public would never hear it."

Maybe its one of those moments best left unheard, but it's a pretty cool story. Gerry is also referenced as an attendee at a party/jam session in which Dennis helped Billy Preston write "You Are So Beautiful". The song became a huge hit for Joe Cocker and Dennis would often sing it at Beach Boys concerts. Dennis never received composer credit, but folks there say he definitely had a hand in the writing.

Joe B

P.S. "Today" the Carl Wilson tune on "LAB" is amazing!
P.P.S. Go Cubs!
P.P.P.S. The "Schoolhouse Rock" stuff is all available on CD thanks to the good folks at Rhino Records. I recently played "The Great American Melting Pot" on my 70's show and dedicated it to John Rocker.

Message: 12648 Posted: Sun Jul 23 16:38:44 2000 By: Robyn

Gerry was touting the site last night, saying that it was so full of information that you'd need about eight hours to read it all. Full of hope that something had been done, I tried to open the file. It is unavailable. ARGH! He should have just refered to Steve's page! Once again, I tip my hat to you Steve. Great information and a very well maintained site!

Message: 12647 Posted: Sun Jul 23 16:35:32 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Isn't She Something Else!

Johnny, I am blushing! After all the nice things you have done for me, this was a no-brainer. I will see them again and I will try to get an autograph. Hope you don't mind if we take a picture before we pop him back in the mail to you.

Message: 12646 Posted: Sun Jul 23 14:09:31 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Isn't She Something Else!

Robyn is a true and dear friend! Yes, indeed, you are, Robyn. Thank you for doing me the big favor...getting Dewey's autograph for me. Wow! You sacrificed getting "Highway" autographed for yourself in order to do me the favor. I know how much you wanted "Highway" autographed. A lesser person would have thought of themself first. What comes to my mind are the lyrics of Andrew Gold, "Thank you for being a friend/Traveled down a road and back again/Your heart is true, you're a pal and a confidant."

Thank you Mr. DB for taking the time to chat with Robyn and her family and for taking the time to autograph my Tin Man doll. The little guy will be PROUDLY displayed on the top shelf of the bookcase in my bedroom!

Hopefully, in the near future, The Guys will be able to return to Albuquerque where I hope to add Mr. GB's autograph.

Thank you again, Robyn!!!

Message: 12645 Posted: Sun Jul 23 13:00:39 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Palmdale

Still zoked from yesterday, but I wanted to talk about the Palmdale Show...

We arrived about 12:30 to stake out a prime spot. (Center aisle, not far from the sound board) HAd our lawn chairs, blamkets and tons of picnic stuff. We were joined by Laura and Gary Harrison. What a pleasure to meet them in person! It was pretty warm out there,being the High Desert and all, we all got a little pink. There was a classic car rally, being held in conjunction with the concert. some really NICE vehicles.

As the sun began to set, the band took the stage ( local radio legend Jeff Gonzer introduced them. Jeff was, I believe, an inspiration for one of the dj's in the movie FM)

I expected to hear Riverside, but they started with ( my foggy memory here) Never be Lonley. Cool. They played everything I could have wanted to hear ( Hangover,Windwave and the Beatles "things we said today") They started out kind of low key, but kicked it up as the night progressed. I think the setting had a lot to do with it. Marie Kerr Park is a City Park in a commercial/residential neighborhood. They probably had to keep it down and end by 10.

at the encore. my family ( dd and dh) joined Gary and Laura at the foot of the stage. DH got what I hope are some wonderful shots. I will send them all along as soon as I get them developed. We went backstage. I had Johnny's Tin Man, but Gerry was driving out, so I missed him ( ah well, next time) But I did manage to get Dewey to sign it. Dewey was completly gracious. I did not want to hold him up, so I only asked him to sign Johnny's Tin Man. ( I had my copy of Highway in my pack as well, but that would have been too much) THANK YOU AGAIN DEWEY!!

on the way home dh asked about the Fan Gathering! ( Up until now, he has not really expressed an interest in it)

All in all, a lovely night!

Message: 12644 Posted: Sun Jul 23 12:38:23 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Loved one's pain

I can really feel Howard's and even Steve's pain. Today, I got a call that my mother was rushed by ambulance due to chest pain. I cannot tell you the ordeal I went through finding the hospital they took her to cause I was given wrong information. Never panicked or cried till I finally found her and then I broke down. Thank god she will be okay--seemed she just pulled a muscle from playing Maj Jong (spelling?) but it had me so scared and I realize just how precious life can be. Due to the fact that I am single, I had to deal with the craziness on my own but thank god she is okay and will be coming home soon!!! I hope that Howard's child will be just as lucky and that Steve's wife will be fine too!! I really prayer for you guys!!

Message: 12643 Posted: Sun Jul 23 10:22:59 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Atlantis Concert, Jackson Concert, Release Party

Scott, thanks for the great review. I wish I could have been at the release party but I don't think my wife would have forgiven me if I hadn't been there during her surgery. Anyway, we look forward to seeing the photos. If you post them on your Rock and Roll site, let me know the URL and I'll add a link to it. If you'd like me to post them on the America Fans site, just e-mail them to me and I'll get them out ASAP. By the way, did you have any Human Nature posters left or did you give them all out?

As far as me being "Sir Steve", I must have missed the induction ceremony at the Palace (LOL). I knew that Sir George had been knighted but I didn't recall hearing my name. (I'm just giving you a hard time). Thanks for your kind words and for allowing this Chat Folder to be hosted on your Rock and Roll USA server. We all appreciate it and your devotion to America.


Message: 12642 Posted: Sun Jul 23 10:06:28 2000 By: Witryff
Subject: Atlantis Concert, Jackson Concert, Release Party

Sir Steve Lowry:

I have some great shots from onstage during the "Atlantis Concert" (Reno July 15)...taken by Prairie Prince (Jefferson Starship/The Tubes), since I did not have an "onstage pass"... Prairie jumped right up, grabbed my camera, hopped onstage and crept around behind the band, while they were playing....great shots Prairie. Prairie and Jefferson Starship's Diana Mangano joined me at dinner after the show and commented on how great America sounded/performed. Prairie said that The Tubes will have a "Live" album released later this year and will be touring. Jefferson Starship will also continue to tour this year. Prairie is doing another album with Jefferson Starship and a solo album with Jeff Beck "guitarist" Lyle Workman and bassist/singer/songwriter Larry Tagg formerly with Bourgeios Tagg, Hall&Oates, & Todd Rungren. America and Jefferson Starship stole the show... with a large portion of the crowd leaving after America's set and not staying for the headliner, Bachman Turner Overdrive.

I also have some cool shots from the Album Release party (Jackson Rancheria) with Gerry, Dewey, Willie, and Ian cutting their "Highway" cake and reviewing "Highway" for the first time (July 21.) The Beckley/Bunnell/Samwell interview (July 21) will be posted in a week or so, when we get all of the pictures processed, catalogged etc. None of the band had seen the finished layout in release form. Gery, Dewey, and Ian went through the Highway CD/book together and commented on how the various items were developed with Rhino, as well as trading stories from the beginning forward. Gerry, Dewey, and Ian were very gracious with their time and efforts... I know that the band had to catch a flight at 6 AM and had to be up at 5:00, so they really put themselves out. Ian had just gotten back into town from the "Beer Dawgs" east coast tour and drove three hours to attend.

The new set list flowed exceptionally well and the band seemed to be energized. "Never Be" works well as the opening number, even though it's weird to not hear "Riverside" as the first song. Gerry said that they are trying to mix in lots of different things for those fans that see more than one show each year. Kudos to Pete Leonardo for doing such a great job making everything happen without a hitch with multiple act/large venue set changes and multiple band loadouts.

Steve, I still think that your America Fans site is the best music site & my personal favorite on the web!!!!

All My Best,
Scott West

P.S. Jim Nak, we missed you, but hope to see you in Anaheim.

Message: 12641 Posted: Sun Jul 23 09:33:47 2000 By: Deb
Subject: Re:Welcome

Thank you to all who welcomed me onto this board...nice to be here amongst such wonderful nice people!

Message: 12640 Posted: Sun Jul 23 09:00:11 2000 By: Beth
Subject: drums & SUVs

Noooooooo drum machines!!!!! A pox upon thee!!!! -Just my humble opinion.... Am working on my husband to loosen up with some cash... Am also sending out local feelers for a set to borrow or rent, along with some hands-on training. We'll see what develops!

HANG IN HOWIE!! My heart and prayers are with you & yours. Everything happens for a reason. You are strong enough to survive and grow through the outcome.

My son Justin is doing okay. He is under constant supervision and that must remain the case. Anytime he is allowed to be alone, he makes a real bad choice. We just keep hanging in and never give up.

Must go and make hay - 10 horses and winter's comin'! But will order Highway from Collectors Choice before I log off this day!


Message: 12639 Posted: Sat Jul 22 22:55:51 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: "She's Gonna Let You Down"

From the "Eat Your Heart Out" file:
Yes, I HAVE that single! I found it a couple of years ago in a used record store in Manhattan.


Message: 12638 Posted: Sat Jul 22 22:09:05 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: "She's Gonna Let You Down"

Yes, indeed, "She's Gonna Let You Down" WAS released as a single. It was the flip-side to "Green Monkey". What was I thinking?

Message: 12637 Posted: Sat Jul 22 21:53:32 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Billy Joel

To add on to Billy Joel's statement, "If you wanna have a hit, you gotta make it fit." "If it don't fit, you must acquit!", per Johnnie Cochran.

Sorry, I couldn't resist. :0 )

Message: 12636 Posted: Sat Jul 22 21:48:18 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: Howard

We will keep you & your Family in our prayers, hang in there Buddy!

The Forsman Family

Message: 12635 Posted: Sat Jul 22 21:44:24 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Single edit.

Thanks Kevin. That makes a lot of sense. Now for a statement and another question. I didn't think "She's Gonna Let You Down" was ever released as a single. Could it be that it was planned as a single but never was released as one?

Message: 12634 Posted: Sat Jul 22 21:36:23 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Palmdale Concert

I'm thinking about Robyn tonight because she and Gary Harrison are at the Palmdale concert and probably Jimnak, too. I'm not sure what time it occurs, but I really hope they're having (or had) a great time. Looking forward to hearing all about it tomorrow. Then it's Virginia's turn again tomorrow night.

Message: 12633 Posted: Sat Jul 22 21:31:45 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Single edit.

Johnny: The term "single edit" means it was the version of the song released as a single, as opposed to the album version. Usually, it's shorter because, as Billy Joel said in The Entertainer, "If you wanna have a hit, you gotta make it fit."


Message: 12631 Posted: Sat Jul 22 19:38:42 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Need Help from you guys on another board

Not sure where the support came from but thanks--I noticed a couple of comments on the Jimmy Webb site after I posted on here-and how positive they were and they really put that moron in his place!!!

Message: 12630 Posted: Sat Jul 22 19:36:43 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Gun/Cannon

Bad Andy, Good Grief! Actually, very clever. I know I shouldn't encourage you. (LOL)

Message: 12629 Posted: Sat Jul 22 18:32:15 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: The Stars on the Plane

The Stars on the plane? My theory is that the plane had a gun /cannon mounted up front. Each time an electronic drum machine came in sight, they opened fire. The stars must represent how many drum machines were shot down....rofl!!!!!
As for the different LETTER, I like it, but I like the original HIDEAWAY version even more....much more actually, but the HIGHWAY version is okay.

No I slither back to my room..........snicker snicker


Message: 12628 Posted: Sat Jul 22 17:52:45 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: The Stars on the Plane

Yes, Nina, you're absolutely right about the stars representing the number of tours. I totally missed seeing it at the top of the page.

Next question: Can someone tell us the meaning of the different musical terminologies. What is meant by "unedited, alternate mix" (like "Submarine Ladies") verses "alternate mix"? Also, what is a "single edit" (like "She's Gonna Let You Down")?

I forgot to mention my thoughts on the alternate mix of "Letter". What the heck happened to it? At first, I thought my CD player was wacked out! The song seems to speed up then returns to normal speed and speeds up again. I didn't like the "run, run, run, run..." lyrics. There were some funky sounds coming from the guitar, as well. I think this alternate mix should have be omitted and room made for another song. I would have favored "Last Two To Dance". It's a unique song that Gerry and Dewey share lead vocals, as you all know. How the song came to be for Dewey and Gerry is a very interesting story in itself. I'd like to hear what others think about Letter's alternate mix?

Back to re-reading the booklet.

Message: 12627 Posted: Sat Jul 22 15:50:58 2000 By: Nina
Subject: The Contents of Highway

Hi Johnny,

I don't have my Highway book with me (it's downstairs), but re-check that page with the AMERICA JET...doesn't it have a "blurb" somewhere on that page that explains that the STARS represent each TOUR the band made with the jet? ( Hope I'm not dreaming!!!)

Good thoughts go out to both Howard and Steve...("I can feel those better days...they're comin, they're comin")


Message: 12626 Posted: Sat Jul 22 14:09:51 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: The Contents of "Highway"

I finally went to bed last night (rather this morning) at 1:00 AM. I couldn't put the "Highway" book down until I finished reading it all. It was great to read Dan, Dewey, Gerry's thoughts about each song. I learned a lot! I was surprised to read that the guys thought "Hideaway" was just so-so. I've always liked it.

Regarding the America airplane, can anyone tell me (us) what those 10 stars on the plane represent? I thought it was strange, as well as funny, that the door underneath the plane says, "If lost, please return to Hartmann & Goodman".

Not long ago, we talked about "Submarine Ladies" and what the title might mean. It was good to finally hear how the title came about. The same with Newton-Under-Roseberry-Topping. Robyn was right-on! There are so many other interesting tidbits that will give us lots to talk about.

One of the first pictures that I saw in the booklet, was page 11from the "Harbor" poster. That's the four-arms-of-Dan photo. Now we know who those other arms belong to. I call that picture, "The Effects of Dan Drinking Too Much Hawaiian Punch". (LOL)

As I mentioned last night, I saw something in the booklet that's a direct connection to my first America concert. The concert was May 1975 in Albuquerque. I remember that the warm-up band for America was some of the same guys that are pictured on the "Harbor" poster, specifically, the guy wearing the Grateful Dead t-shirt. I believe his name is Raccoon. Also in the band was the guy on the poster without a shirt on. From the page directly opposite of disc 3 of the box set, you will see a cream-colored pass/advertising sign (I don't know exactly what it is). It has brown lettering and it has a drawing of Dan, Gerry, and Dewey. That specific piece of memorabilia tells me that the warm-up band for the May 23 concert was named, "Captain". The "UNM" portion of "ASUNM", is the University of New Mexico. "KRKE" is an Albuquerque radio station. You can barely saw "GYM" underneath "1975". If you go to the museum section of the folder, then to the souvenir section, you'll see the ticket from that concert. It's actually two stubs taped together. The "GYM" on the cream-colored pass (?) is the location of the concert, Johnson Gym. I thought it was so first America concert represented in "Highway".

Regarding the alternate mixs on "Highway", I really enjoyed "Who Loves You" and "Watership Down". Gerry's voice is much more prominent when compared to the actual release. I really like that.

My favorite demo is "Riverside". I enjoyed hearing "Mitchum Junction" and "James Holladay". Who knows what they would have sounded like had they been put on an album.

What a great job Rhino did. Congrats to them and especially to Gerry, Dewey, and Dan! About time!!

Message: 12625 Posted: Sat Jul 22 11:41:46 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Fall River show ???????

Andy, I've sent a message to Morey Management asking about the show but I haven't received a reply yet. If any of you find out anything definitive (is that possible???), be sure to post it here for the rest of us (I'll be sure to do the same if/when they reply). --Steve

Message: 12624 Posted: Sat Jul 22 10:27:44 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Welcome all!

Welcome back Warren! It certainly has been a while since you've come around... With a story like yours, maybe you ought to think about updating your bio!

Deb - Welcome to our own version of the "AA" support group -- America Addicts! Except here we all help each other maintain our addiction.

Speaking of which, I'm going through withdrawl. Gotta to get back to my CD player.



Message: 12623 Posted: Sat Jul 22 07:34:49 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Fall River show ???????

What's the story about the August 12 show, supposedly in Fall River, Mass? Will it take place? Is it on? Just curious.


Message: 12622 Posted: Sat Jul 22 07:32:41 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Need Help from you guys on another board

I will check out that board. Negative stuff about the great Dan, Dewey, and Gerry???????? Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!! Lemmme have 'em!!!!!!


Message: 12621 Posted: Sat Jul 22 07:27:02 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Steve and family

Hope the surgery went PERFECTLY! Hope the recovery is swift!

TkH<------{{{{{{{++++++++++++++++++++++}}}}}}} (Positive vibes)

Message: 12620 Posted: Sat Jul 22 07:24:57 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Highway/Human Nature

I remember reading several posts about why Human Nature stuff isn't on Highway. Here's my $.02 on that....

Highway will SELL Human Nature. It's mentioned and those who don't know it exists will go out and buy it after hearing all the wonderful stuff on Highway! Voila, jumpstart! Hopefully it'll do the same to Hourglass (a woefully UNDERRATED CD, possibly the BEST ONE ((IMHO))!!!)

Anywho, just a

TkH<--------sending positive vibes to Howard and his family!!!!!!!

Message: 12619 Posted: Sat Jul 22 07:19:16 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Need Help from you guys on another board

Hey Lisa!

I'll tell you what......this board is the most interesting, diverse board that I *inhabit*. The people here don't attack and jump all over posters when they don't agree. It's a fair and even handed board because all the people in here are fair and tolerant! (C= I too have been to other boards and used to post, but after getting variously raked over the coals (because I was new and they didn't "recognize" me), derided for my *lack of knowlege* (yeah RIGHT), or just generally getting the "cricket, cricket" treatment I decided to just lurk these boards and realize it wasn't worth my time to post to these so called "FANS" boards.

What you have here in the America Fans Chat Folder is a rarity on the net. A friendly, interactive place where you can visit and not get *whacked*!

We should all now stand and give ourselves a pat on the collective back and hail the Almight Mr. Lowry for giving us this opportunity! (((C=

TkH<---------had my vitimins today!

Message: 12618 Posted: Sat Jul 22 06:47:05 2000 By: TZ MAC
Subject: Re: French import of Your Move


Yeah, like John said!

Some of these are even High Definition CD's.


Message: 12617 Posted: Sat Jul 22 06:29:44 2000 By: cfhere
Subject: Steve,Howard,Highway

Steve, I'm glad your wife is doing well after surgery.
Howard, I hope your situation improves as time goes by. Being a fellow New Jerseyan we have to stick together. I may be going to the America concert at the balloon festival in Readington on friday. If you're thinking of going let me know. Think only good thoughts.
I got my copy of Highway at Compact Disc World on Thursday. The notes were outstanding. There were many songs I would have liked to have seen in the box set. It seems to me that they could have maybe added another CD to the set. The quality is outstanding. I would have loved to see a song or two from Human Nature. I was surprised that Hearts wasn't better represented. After the first album and Holiday and Hourglass that was my favorite. How did Hideaway get so many songs on when the guys didn't seem too thrilled with it themselves. Anyway, it is Saturday morning and I am playing the set for the third time.Have a good weekend and enjoy.

Message: 12616 Posted: Sat Jul 22 04:55:08 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Need Help from you guys on another board

Steve--hope your wife has a speedy recovery and Howard---you know I am praying for you. Besides posting on this board, I also post on the Jimmy Webb board ( I often post things about Gerry(and America) as the two are good friends and have collaborated in the past. There have been a few negative postings lately and it is really getting on my nerves. I know everyone has a right to their opinions but it really annoys me. Here is part of a quote from that post-"...coral is right. those songs are at best dreary, whiny rich-white-kid records.." It was in response to my positive post after someone's negative post. Anyway, when you have a chance please go into the forums and check this out and PLEASE post something. Thanks

Message: 12615 Posted: Fri Jul 21 22:17:10 2000 By: Randy
Subject: I've got mine!

After going to two different Best Buy stores, I bought my copy of Highway on Friday. I'm sure that all of us have some favorites that were left out. The reality is that there is just so much good material to pick from. I also am quite pleased with the quality of the mixes. Hats off to Rhino for a job well done!
Deb - welcome to the chat folder. I think that you'll find that the folks who hang out are a great bunch. It's easy to understand that based upon their common interest in America.
Steve - glad to hear that your wife is doing well after the foot surgery. It sounds like it went smoother than your recent vacation.
I made some last minute plans to attend the concert at Lumber Jack days in Stillwater, Minn. on July 29. Because of the distance involved, I've got a room for the night. The drive should be pleasant as it goes across Wisconsin and there is no Chicago traffic to fight.
I remember that a while back, some of the fans had indicated their desire to attend that show. Just wondering who is going to be there.
Imagine my wife's surprise when I said that I still wanted to go to the Door County concert on August 11. I actually like to hear from anyone who is planning to go to either show.
One last thing - my purchase of Highway was exactly one year after I saw America for the first time at Rock-Fest in Cadott, Wi. I still smile when I reminisce of that wonderful outdoor show.

Message: 12614 Posted: Fri Jul 21 21:56:05 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Steve / foot surgery

I just want to wish your wife all the best. I hope by the time that you read this, her foot surgery will be declared a complete success :)


Message: 12613 Posted: Fri Jul 21 21:52:06 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Deb / Hat Trick

Sorry to hear about your defective disc. Just for fun, try putting the disc in a portable disc player...who knows?
So you never heard HAT TRICK? Be prepared to experience one of the greatest songs ever recorded in the history of recorded music!!!


Message: 12612 Posted: Fri Jul 21 20:30:29 2000 By: Deb
Subject: Highway

Hi everyone,this is my first post and the box set is what got me out of lurkdom! I was so excited to get this and play it beginning to end..imagine how disappointed I was in the middle of Hat Trick to have the Cd skip and then go completely blank! Never having heard this song before or the ones following it...I was really upset.Thinking it was my stereo, I tried to play the following luck...tried it on my luck.....aacckkk!! Luckily I called and they are sending me out another one....but BUMMER!!
I am now listening to the rest to appease my thirst for new stuff and I LOVE THIS SET....its incredible..and the pictures in the book are priceless not to mention the text.Thank you for putting this out guys!

Message: 12611 Posted: Fri Jul 21 20:12:26 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Highway detour

Jim, major bummer about the non-delivery. I think I know what happened to your box set. The UPS truck "made a wrong toin at Albaquoyke" and headed straight down to my town of "Redneck City, New Mexico". I found "Highway" laying by my front door late this afternoon! (Nina, right-on with Collector's Choice Music Store!!)

The booklet looks great! I have yet to play the alternate mixes and the "new" songs. I've been thumbing through the book, reading notes here and there, and looking at all the great pictures.

I'll be stopping by the Junction and will be visiting Mr. Holladay before the night is through!

I already see something in the booklet (that I've never seen until now) that has a direct tie to my first America concert back in '75 in Albuquerque. I'll talk about it tomorrow. My CD player is calling for me. Later! (Steve, glad to hear Janell is doing well.)

Message: 12610 Posted: Fri Jul 21 19:45:38 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Hello Once Again.

Warren, welcome back (yes, I do remember you). Sorry to hear you had to go through so much but hopefully that is all behind you now and you can look forward to the future.

I'm listening to disc one of the box set right now after cheating and listening to all of the demos and alternate mixes first. I also read the first half of the booklet while I was waiting for my wife to undergo foot surgery today. She's doing just fine and I'm now anxious to read the rest of the booklet. However, I've got a bunch of pictures and other things for the web site so I'm not sure which one will win, the booklet or the web site....

Message: 12609 Posted: Fri Jul 21 19:27:35 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: All-Points-Bulletin

I second that! Hope the little guy is better soon.

Message: 12608 Posted: Fri Jul 21 18:58:36 2000 By: Warren Woodzell
Subject: Hello Once Again.

Well, what can I say? It's certainly been a while since I've visited this great ol' site, but I thought I'd stop by, get myself an ID, and pass along a few quick words: First, some folks around these parts, Steve especially, may remember me from a while back. I first started checking out this site when the internet was just becoming a "fad" so to speak, about 3 years ago. (That's when I would skip class and go to the computer lab to look up, of all things, America tabs!) ...Unfortunately, my life since then ain't exactly been a ride on Dewey's horse.. I've been diagnosed with prostate disease, been in trouble with the law, and my relationship with the girl-at-the-time became so stressful, erratic and sometimes violent, that I stopped enjoying music all together. In fact, some the America songs, even full albums, that once brought me so much enjoyment now bring back such a blast of mixed emotion that they're a hard listen. I guess I know how Dan feels. ANYWAY: So after two years of virtually no America, I wandered into a music store and spotted the America box set. I looked.. looked again.. and sure enough.. it was America. I reached out and gripped the book-like cover, and with a sweaty hand, I flipped it over and looked at the titles.. and as I did, every bit of raw emotion, every bit of fear, hope, worry, puppy love, and every sweaty, sticky July night I spent in the summer of '97 with headphones on listening to "Harbor" came back with all the speed of a silver bullet, and clobbered me right in the throat, leaving a knot that felt like a cannon ball. I then, of course, remembered how strong America made me feel, and how they used to calm me down. Taking into account the fact that it WAS almost 2 years, and seeing as how the mere sight of the words "Are You There" nearly made my heart explode, I walked out the door fifty dollars poorer but a richer man just the same. Naturally, it was wonderful. "Special Girl" and "Who Loves You" gave me a bit of a lump again, but other than that, I enjoyed it. I guess the point of this message is to tell ya'll I'm still alive and that America stills sounds good to a mature 21 year old. LOL. Take care everyone.


Message: 12607 Posted: Fri Jul 21 17:56:22 2000 By: Rob
Subject: We're With You Howard!


You're a great guy! And I wish you ALL the best! You and your whole family are definitely in my prayers!!! You're the kind of guy who would be there for others. E-mail me if I can do anything for you.
(P.S. you may still have my phone number)


Message: 12606 Posted: Fri Jul 21 17:52:27 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: All-Points-Bulletin

Thanks, Steve, for the news about Howard's absence. I was afraid that perhaps something serious had indeed happened. I sincerely regret hearing this.

Howard, if you read this, I want you to know that my heart and prayers are with little Stephen and the entire family. You are definitely among friends here on the folder.

Sylvain, I like your suggestion very much!!

Message: 12605 Posted: Fri Jul 21 16:22:51 2000 By: sylvain
Subject: Howard

Just a thought! If one of us that already has (or will have) the Highway box set wins the Rhino copy, I'm sure that Howard could give the other copy a good home.
I still have to wait till the 8th of August for mine, but am glad everybody is enjoying theirs.

Sylvain from the great white north

Message: 12604 Posted: Fri Jul 21 15:34:31 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: All-Points-Bulletin

Johnny, I received a mail message from Howard today and I hope he won't mind if I share a few details with you (meaning everyone). His son has some fairly serious medical problems which he thought he had taken care of but they flared up again. So his son has been in the hospital and to top things off, his wife was laid off from her job. That might have been a blessing in disguise because she has been able to be with their son in the hospital.

All of this has got Howie rather depressed and the increased financial burden of the medical bills has kept him from being able to get the latest releases. That's also why he hasn't posted anything in quite some time.

My thoughts and prayers are with you Howie. Hang in there!

Message: 12603 Posted: Fri Jul 21 15:31:06 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Cancerians/Mr. Yee

This Cancerian ordered the blue with classic oval logo ( right on target there Beechlady)

Message: 12602 Posted: Fri Jul 21 15:05:52 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Cancerians/Mr. Yee

>>Beechlady, what the hell you mean Cancerians are up and down emotionally!!! How are you doing today, by the way? Good I hope. :0) :0( (LOL)!!>>

My MY Johnny, such emotional LANGUAGE....ROFL!!!!!!!!!!
BTW which shirt did you order? (C;

TkH<--------can spot a Scorpio at 20 paces....

Message: 12601 Posted: Fri Jul 21 14:29:18 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Highway detour

UPS has come and gone, with no "Highway" on the truck for Little Jim from CDnow. (Shipped Monday.) Sigh, whine, sob. They must've shipped it by "A Horse with No Name" or got stuck in traffic on "Ventura Highway." Better be "Here" by Monday, or I'll be really cranky by "Wednesday Morning." (oops, I forgot, no Human Nature on this set.)

Jim R.

Message: 12600 Posted: Fri Jul 21 13:51:48 2000 By: kiri
Subject: Re: Beechlady/Kiri

Nina - Loved the "Wizard of Oz" imagery - how true! Knowing this would be my last summer off I've tried to see everyone and do everything I could - that's why seeing America in August will be a nice culmination to my summer. I just got back from a "real world" job interview; think I got it. My days of freedom are numbered!

Been seeing how everyone had the "oblivious to anything non-Limp Biskit" music store worker experience in finding Highway. I think I'm somewhat younger than many of you (based on your first America concert experiences) and keep thinking "oh it can't be that bad"! Well, tonight I'm going in search of Highway and we'll see just how ignorant they really are. I've taught high school and you'd be surprised how many teens are aware of their rock roots. But those particular kids probably aren't considered hip enough by employers to work at these chain stores. I'm hoping to have a pleasant shopping experience...we'll see.

Message: 12599 Posted: Fri Jul 21 13:26:10 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Cancerians and Those SUVs

s O.J. a Cancerian?

Yes he is. Did you get your package yet???? I am anxious for your take on Highway. I listened to it from start to finish, resisting the temtation to listen to the "new" tracks first. Neat how it goes full circle, beginning and ending with "Riverside" I had the volume up so loud my rear-view mirrors were vibrating. The mix is incredibly clean, nice job Rhino!

Message: 12598 Posted: Fri Jul 21 13:09:51 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: All-Points-Bulletin

I'm sending out an "APB" for Howard! He's been missing for quite awhile. Howard, are you still kickin'?

Message: 12597 Posted: Fri Jul 21 13:05:37 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Cancerians and Those SUVs

Beechlady, what the hell you mean Cancerians are up and down emotionally!!! How are you doing today, by the way? Good I hope. :0) :0( (LOL)!!

Kevin, you killed me with your SUV comment!

Patiently waiting for the FedEx delivery guy/gal. Hurry up! There goes my emotions again. Is O.J. a Cancerian?

Message: 12596 Posted: Fri Jul 21 12:09:26 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Cancerians

Ok. Here's the low down on our Astrology/America lesson.

This month, Cancer June 21st-July 21st.

Cancer folk are up and down emotional types. The emotions may not be STRONG, but they do fluctuate quite a bit, none the less. They usually prefer the older America albums to the newer ones, but aren't averse to giving anything after '79 a spin! They prefer the lighter colored T's offered thru the band and dearly LOVE the "Holiday/Hearts" style logo over the others. Their favorite songs usually run to "Young Moon" and "Moon Song". Their best bets for concert venues are outdoors and by the water! They LOVE History.

Next week, Leo.

TkH<-----local astrology *expert*

"These views are express solely for the entertainment of the America Fans Chat Folder and are NOT to be used as evidence in criminal or civil trials, for term papers or for use on Television Quiz shows."

Message: 12595 Posted: Fri Jul 21 11:57:30 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: mBirthday

I too, would like to add my belates to young-mr.-B! Hey Matt? Do YOU have a drum machine??? (C= So, spill the beans? Get any cool presents? What kind of CAKE? Anywho hope is was a grand one.

TkH<-----eagerly awaiting HER turn on the birthday spin....

Message: 12594 Posted: Fri Jul 21 11:54:32 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Beechlady/Kiri

Hey Nina.....JUST KIDDING!!! (((C= Post away woman! ((C=

TkH<------desperatly searching for a cure for dog flatulance...SIGH! Lab's are

Message: 12593 Posted: Fri Jul 21 11:16:19 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Re: Beth/Drum Machine.

Here's hoping Gerry gets an SUV for Christmas.


Message: 12592 Posted: Fri Jul 21 10:37:44 2000 By: Nina
Subject: Beechlady/Kiri

Sorry, Beechlady! I just thought it was neat that my posting was followed by a Bones posting, then a Gary posting...2 people I have actually MET! I'll do my best to cut down on those OFF-SUBJECT postings. But my knowledge of "synch" and "drum machines" is nill!
Please forgive me this time!!! (It's SUMMER...and I have lots of time to chat!!!)

Kiri...I sometimes wish I was out of teaching, too! It gets more difficult each year..I admire you for having the guts to try something else! I teach grade 6, and I believe Bones teaches high school...but I'm not exactly sure. Once the calendar changes to August...for teachers, it's like that scene in "The Wizard of OZ" when the wicked witch picks up the hourglass and turns it upside down! Our time being just "us" is limited!

Good luck to all who ordered HIGHWAY through the "Collector's Choice" catalog...I hope I didn't steer you wrong!


Message: 12591 Posted: Fri Jul 21 10:25:27 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Happy Belated Birthday

Yes Sir, mB, Happy Belated from a fellow Moon Child (or is it, Mooned Child)! :0 )

Message: 12590 Posted: Fri Jul 21 09:42:28 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Happy Belated Birthday

To mB, who celebrated a birthday on Sunday.

Message: 12589 Posted: Fri Jul 21 08:09:44 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: palmdale concert

I am going!

Message: 12588 Posted: Fri Jul 21 07:38:16 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: French import of Your Move


The French version of Your Move with the "Last Unicorn" tracks is on Magic Records. Their website is, and they also have remastered copies of Silent Letter, Alibi, View From The Ground, and Perspective on sale as well.


Message: 12587 Posted: Fri Jul 21 07:36:15 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Good News, Bad News, Good News

Good News: I got my copy of Highway last night. I haven't had time to listen to it or read the booklet yet, but a quick perusal of the booklet let me know that this is HIGH QUALITY stuff.

Bad News: My wife has to go in for foot surgery today and they may end up doing toe joint reconstruction. We're confident that the pain and discomfort she's been feeling for years will go away after the surgery.

Good News: While I'm in the waiting room during the surgery, I can read the Highway box set booklet. That should certainly make the time pass quickly.

Gary, thanks for your review of Highway. My sound equipment isn't that good so I don't know if I would be able to tell the difference, but it's nice to know that Rhino did such a great job. I have passed your review along to them.

Message: 12586 Posted: Fri Jul 21 05:01:01 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Beth / Drum machine

hey Hey HEY,,,,,,,the energizer bunny takes

TkH<---------4 D cells

Message: 12585 Posted: Fri Jul 21 05:00:07 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Off Subject

Darn you NINA and those "Off Subject" posts.....ROFLMAO! (C=

Sorry, just in a good mood for once...(C=

TkH<-----------Is it a DEAD Parrot?

Message: 12584 Posted: Fri Jul 21 04:55:50 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Drums.

<<electronic drums
snicker. Do I detect a little electronics BASHING?....rofl

Message: 12583 Posted: Fri Jul 21 04:52:06 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Hi Guys!!

Hey there Ms. D!!!!

How's the new job? How's Florida treating YOU? (C= Sorry I missed you at Sunrise!!!!! )C=

TkH<-----Pining for the fjords

Message: 12582 Posted: Fri Jul 21 02:37:31 2000 By: SUAT
Subject: Re: some ınformatıon?

tım where can i buy the French import version of Your Move(ı mean the ınternet)

Message: 12581 Posted: Thu Jul 20 23:37:53 2000 By: TZ MAC
Subject: Re: some ınformatıon?

"1- do ı have to buy the soundtrack of the last unıcorn as a member of Americas fan . ı have no ınformatıon about thıs album . can you tell some ınformatıon please"

Another option to buying The Last Unicorn soundtrack (which can get pricey) is to buy the French import version of Your Move. It contains America's 3 songs from The Last Unicorn as bonus tracks.


Message: 12580 Posted: Thu Jul 20 22:45:33 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Beth / Drum machine

Here is the proper way to utilize a drum machine. Just follow these
quick, easy-to-follow directions:

1.)Place drum machine in front of a Ford Excursion's tire.

2.)With SUV in forward gear, drive over drum machine.

3.)Place SUV in reverse, and drive over drum machine.

4.)Repeat steps 1-3 seventeen times.

*There's no sustitute for real drums! It's not difficult to choose
between Willie Leacox or some Nintendo inspired Energizer bunny
sounding drum machine.


Message: 12579 Posted: Thu Jul 20 22:17:17 2000 By: Nanse
Subject: palmdale concert

Anyone out there going to the concert in Palmdale this Saturday night?Not sure if I can make it...sure wishing to go! How about the other concerts in California? Anyone get to the one's in Northern CA?

Message: 12578 Posted: Thu Jul 20 20:24:28 2000 By: kiri
Subject: Re: Off Subject

bones and nina - i just got out of teaching at the end of this school year (taught for 6 years). this has been a very strange summer not "counting the days." not sure how i'll feel once school starts up again. what do you guys teach?

Message: 12577 Posted: Thu Jul 20 20:00:46 2000 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Off Subject

Hi Nina, July is almost over and it won't be long before it's Aug. 1st. Then it's time to start counting down the days before the first day of school. bummer

Message: 12576 Posted: Thu Jul 20 19:41:54 2000 By: Nina
Subject: Off Subject

Hi Gary! Hi Bones! Just saying HI to two of my favotite guys!

Message: 12575 Posted: Thu Jul 20 19:19:41 2000 By: gary
Subject: Fascinating

Well, I have had my box set for two days now and I am totally mezmerized. I find it absolutely fascinating. When I got to pages 37 and 38 of the book, I could not help but laugh. These pages show the back of a "Best of Album" that is in Japanese. I am a former employee of a Japanese company and I am all too familiar with things that get lost in the English to Japanese translation. This is a typical Japanese mis-translation "There's not a fallen star waiting for the early train, Sorry boy, but I wouldn't get by purple rain" or "The first thing I met was a flower" or "but I've got so many dandy dre", Well I set my sight on Monday", "I ain't ready for the August", "Sister Golden Hair's a prize". And don't even try to decipher the words for Sanman, they are totally out of whack. Also on Side B it is listed as Venture Highway. I am also fascinated by the demo version of Ventura Highway. Both verses are the same "Chewing on a piece of grass...." I wonder when the second verse "wishing on a fallen star ....." was added? But what really makes this box set for me is the unbelievable job the engineer did of remixing. I noticed it immediately when I started out with Riverside. It sounded very crisp and clean with a lot more low end punch. I stopped it and immediately played Riverside off of the first CD and sonically, there is no comparison. It is the same through out the entire set. Listen carefully to Molten Love. It sounds totally different to me than the original because of the added low end and the over all crispness. I am very impressed with the engineering. Whoever did this obviously knew what they were doing. I have a high end home theatre system and I have never heard any of the early stuff sound this good. I used to really have to crank my subwoofer on the early CD's to get any decent bass response. Now the bass lines just explode. That great bass hook on "Tin Man" now really gets my wife's china in the china cabinet humming. This is very very nice. I am also impressed with the quality of the book. The photos a re good, the paper is high quality, the overall layout is exceptional. Someone spent a lot of time on this and I think they did a very nice job. Kudos to Rhino, you did a good job of creating a very classy and professional tribute to the greatest band ever.

If I had to grade this, then I would give it an A++


Message: 12574 Posted: Thu Jul 20 19:18:00 2000 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Another Box Set

Maybe in about another 5 years we'll see a Gerry Beckley box set out there. That would be COOL!!!!!!!

Message: 12573 Posted: Thu Jul 20 19:16:55 2000 By: Nina
Subject: TNN Special

I've been trying to piece together in my mind exactly how much on-air time America will get on next Tuesday's Nashville Network special?

At least a month ago postings indicated that America performed a half dozen songs, Blood,Sweat & Tears is to be featured also...and the write-up in my TV guide mentions Peter Noone and Herman's Hermits? Kinda makes me wonder...WHO ELSE is cutting into my America time!!!???

God bless ALL the's just I was hoping for a LARGE dose of Gerry and Dewey on my TV set!! We so seldom see them on the tube!


Message: 12572 Posted: Thu Jul 20 19:09:27 2000 By: Alan Bescan
Subject: Blossom concert

had a great last few days...bought the only copy of the box set at Best Buy and saw the group at Blossom Music Center last night along with Starship and the Doobie Bros.(headliners).The set was short (an hour) but was great.....I was just disappointed they did not play anything from the last album....but maybe they will when I see them Sep.19 back in the area again. That's pretty good getting to see them twice in the same area within two months to the day!

Message: 12571 Posted: Thu Jul 20 15:31:56 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Another Biscuit CD

Jim, go to the following link for information about the CD in question:

Album 31

Message: 12570 Posted: Thu Jul 20 15:19:32 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Drums.

Beth: Get yourself one of them drum machines.


Message: 12569 Posted: Thu Jul 20 14:53:57 2000 By: Beth
Subject: drums

Beechlady, Thanks for the vote of confidence! I'm gonna look into finding someone to show me the ropes...
Stay Tuned!

Message: 12568 Posted: Thu Jul 20 14:50:43 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Another Biscuit CD

Hey all, at Wal-Mart last week, I spotted a low-priced America CD that I had never seen before. The cover showed the familiar trio, but the content looked suspiciously like King Biscuit's "America in Concert" (1982 live radio show performance) slimmed down to fewer songs and rearranged. The price was something like $6.99. (I'll check again this weekend.) The only confirmation I had that this might be a King Biscuit album was the printing on the spine of the discardable cellophane wrap. It said "King Biscuit Live." Obviously, if it is the 1982 concert that is already available on CD, it's odd that the cover would include Dan. Anybody know anything about this?

Jim R.

Message: 12567 Posted: Thu Jul 20 12:45:30 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Another Box Set

LOL Mark, I made that mistake-knew the price was too good to be true and was able to cancel my order and went to the store to buy it.

Message: 12566 Posted: Thu Jul 20 12:37:49 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Heart Times Coffee Cup.

Heart Times Coffee Cup rules. Please order many things from them.


Message: 12565 Posted: Thu Jul 20 10:37:50 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Holy Grail

Castle Anthrax?????? ( I needed that)

Message: 12564 Posted: Thu Jul 20 10:09:01 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Holy Grail

At least I didn't get waylaid by the House Of Maidens!

TkH<---------What's your favorite color????? Green! No Blue! Ahhhhhhhrrrrggggh!

Message: 12563 Posted: Thu Jul 20 10:07:07 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Question about Satan

back then Demos didn't have to be *right out of the box* quality because the record companies would spend the bucks to reRecord something "properly" so all sorts of stuff can be heard on demos of the '70's and '80's!

TkH<-----cain't hear any of that on MY DEMO (I hope) ROFL!

Message: 12562 Posted: Thu Jul 20 09:21:25 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Another Box Set

In the buyer beware category, there is another 3CD box set that came out of Australia about a month or so ago. It is titled "3 in 1 Box Set". It is very cheap, so I suspect that it is just a budget repackaging of previously release material, similar to the 2CD set that was released last year. I have seen it listed on some web sites but have yet to see a track listing for it. Has anybody gotten it yet? So when ordering the America box set you need to make sure that it is the one titled "Highway", unless you actually want to order the "3 in 1 Box Set".

I'm not accusing anybody of anything, but do you think it was just a coincidence that this budget 3CD box set just started showing up right before rhino released their 3CD box set?

Message: 12561 Posted: Thu Jul 20 08:31:48 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: I'll Be Getting Mine

Living in the middle of nowhere, I would have to drive at least 100 miles down the highway to get "Highway", so I'm pretty much forced to go the mail-order route. I chose Nina's recommendation of "Collector's Choice Music". The on-line site is:
Their toll-free number is 1-800-923-1122.

The cost of "Highway" is $37.88. Here are the shipping cost options:

1) Standard Shipping $1.95
2) Priority 3-5 business days $5.50
3) Federal Express 2-days $8.50, order by 11 AM CT, Monday-Friday
4) Federal Express Standard Overnight, $12.50, order by 11 AM CT,

Since I placed my order late yesterday afternoon, I should be receiving it tomorrow...just right for weekend fun!

(Thanks Nina, for the info!)

Message: 12560 Posted: Thu Jul 20 07:07:50 2000 By: Mike Bunn
Subject: Re: some ınformatıon?

The 3 CD box set at ABSound is not Highway. Has any body found out what this 3 CD set is ? ABsound has Highway for $37.XX. I've bought America CD's from ABsound with no problem. But, I got my Highway at the local Media play for $39.99 + tax (no shipping), first day of release. Anybody beet this ?

Message: 12559 Posted: Thu Jul 20 06:30:01 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: Rhino.


I saw that also. I'm not sure Rhino had anything to do wih it. I believe it was all Steve L. Okay, maybe not. It was pretty cool though. My son (who should have been asleep and NOT watching these shows came in the room when he heard it. He thought I was playing the CD without him (he's funny that way).


Message: 12558 Posted: Thu Jul 20 05:59:27 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Rhino.

I tell you, Rhino's marketing department is awesome. Last night I saw an episode of Friends here in Dallas that featured "Horse With No Name." What perfect timing.


Message: 12557 Posted: Thu Jul 20 05:51:52 2000 By: SUAT
Subject: some ınformatıon?

hı everybody thıs suat from ıstanbul Turkey. ı got few questıons , ı am so glad ıf you answer me . 1- do ı have to buy the soundtrack of the last unıcorn as a member of Americas fan . ı have no ınformatıon about thıs album . can you tell some ınformatıon please 2- where do have to buy hıghway album ? because ı cant waıt for at least 3-4 mounts to release ın turkey so ı have to buy from amazon or somewhere else from ınternet . but dıfferent prıces makes me suspıcıus(rhıno 48$-amazon 45$ 15$ ) ı want to why dıfferent prıces. please reply me for my problems .also you are goıng to help the people who buy the last album of amerıca ın turkey for the fıst tıme

Message: 12556 Posted: Thu Jul 20 05:27:50 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Demos

Either mp3's or maybe they could release a CD of old demos on Gerry's Human Nature label.

Message: 12555 Posted: Wed Jul 19 21:32:58 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: What channel ?

This is the information that Gary Harrison sent to me (he got it off the TNN web site).

TNN (The Nashville Network)
CLASSIC ROCK: THE HITS -- GROOVES AND HARMONIES: Classic rock kings America and Blood, Sweat & Tears perform. A TNN SPECIAL.

Message: 12554 Posted: Wed Jul 19 21:12:56 2000 By: Richard C
Subject: What channel ?

Can someone please tell me what station America can be seen on July 25? I am guessing that the et and pt are the time zones, but I do not see the station listed. Thanks.

Message: 12553 Posted: Wed Jul 19 19:58:03 2000 By: Steve
Subject: Re: Got it!

Don't let Mike fool you...I've heard him play AMERICA songs and he is actually quite good on the guitar. Mike, 30 seconds playing live on stage, you would be right at home!

Message: 12552 Posted: Wed Jul 19 16:39:42 2000 By: daisyjane64
Subject: Fall River Concert

I checked into it and found that it is to be announced.When i found out any information i will let everyone know.

Message: 12551 Posted: Wed Jul 19 16:28:11 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Demos

Kevin -- You hit the nail on the head! Since is all but mothballed right now, why not jump into the 21st century with a section for mp3s? I don't know if can wait 30 years for Highway Volume 2.


Message: 12550 Posted: Wed Jul 19 16:08:25 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Demos.

I really wish there would have been more demos on the box set. It was interesting to note that the demos were licensed from America. Which leads me to think, if there are other demos, and America owns those, why not sell them here on the internet. It would be awesome to put together a number of those demos and release a demo CD. I can't image one fan who wouldn't buy it.


Message: 12549 Posted: Wed Jul 19 16:07:32 2000 By: Janice
Subject: What the heck??

Steve, how come my e-mail address appeared in the subject I totally computer illerate or what?? That was classified

Message: 12548 Posted: Wed Jul 19 16:06:00 2000 By: Janice

Hi all..after skipping a meeting in Little Rock..Delta cancelled my flight..the nerve of them :-) I spent a relaxing day at home catching up on the page and caught Nina's post about the Collector's Choice music page..thanks Nina! Should have my "Highway" in a few days! Hope all is well with everyone..C'Ya..

Message: 12547 Posted: Wed Jul 19 16:04:45 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Go Man Go Shirt

What a week!!! First I get the amazing boxed set that I cannot stop listening to and today, I get the White with Green Go Man Go shirt like Gerry wore last week in New London. I guess now I will have to see America again real soon so Gerry can sign this one as well!!!

Message: 12546 Posted: Wed Jul 19 15:58:51 2000 By: Robert Burgess

While driving yesterday morning the radio station played A HORSE WITH NO NAME.When it was over i called the station and told them that HIGHWAY just came out ( the d.j did not know ) so he put me on the radio and for about 20 sec. i was able to spread the word. After the next song he played four AMERICA songs in a row. So if every AMERICA fan called one station who knows ??? I listen to HIGHWAY as i write this. I hope everyone enjoys it as much as i do.

Message: 12545 Posted: Wed Jul 19 15:51:30 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: This box set is fasinating !!!

Andy, the chords to Last Unicorn are on the America Fans web site at Chord 118. Have fun playing it!

Message: 12544 Posted: Wed Jul 19 15:45:03 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: It's Life.

I think "It's Life" is quickly becoming my all-time favorite Dan Peek song. Please record that in your logbooks, thank you.


Message: 12543 Posted: Wed Jul 19 15:23:24 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Question about Satan

To think that Satan, later to become Donkey Jaw was considered a "throwaway" just blows my mind. This has to be one of the greatest jams ever recorded. Now a couple of questions about Satan, so everyone kindly put disc # 3, track 18 into your players :)

1.) At about 1:49 into the song, we're hit with a good amount of
"white noise" or hiss. It's a little like being on an airplane.
What does everyone make of it? Was it intentional?

2.) At about 1:57 into the song, does it sound like one of the guitars
(the 6-string lead) is just a tiny bit out of tune? My ears are a
little tone-deaf, do I might be imagining this. BTW, this is in
NO WAY a criticism of the track. It is, after all, a "demo", and
it's fascinating to hear how this track was refined and evolved
into the brilliant jam-masterpiece DONKEY JAW. Throwaway my
foot! If only most finished songs could be 1/100th as good as
this "throwaway" !!!


Message: 12542 Posted: Wed Jul 19 14:51:57 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: This box set is fasinating !!!

Anything as enjoyable as this box set is usually illegal!! LOL
Now a question for those that have it: On page 66, there is a photo of Dewey and Gerry in front of a black Porche. It says the year was 1985. Is this true? To me they appear to have a 1980 "Alibi era" look. I'm probably wrong, but what is everyone's opinion? Gotta go and figure out how to play the LAST UNICORN on guitar.


Message: 12541 Posted: Wed Jul 19 14:40:29 2000 By: Mike Bunn
Subject: Re: Got it!

James Holiday dated. For me it’s a new song. My first impression was “very folksy”. Made me think of "Dina in the kitchen. Dan mentions in the book being embarrassed, caught with your pants down. Well I think the songs fun and glad it didn’t get axed from the box set, like other never released songs surely did. Thanks Dan.

Now, me attempting to play and sing an original or America song in front of a crowd, that would be embarrassing.

Message: 12540 Posted: Wed Jul 19 13:09:28 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Got it!

I had to hit the highway to find Highway today! (Hey maybe Dewey can find a use for that line!) Overall it is an excellent collection. Rhino always does an excellent job packaging their releases and this is no exception. The embeded booklet is outstanding and provides a pretty comprehensive history and artistic insight into what was going on. The sound quality of the tracks is excellent. In fact I think the quality of some material in this box set is superior to that found on the individual CDs themselves. I really like the "new" old stuff. Mitchum Junction is great and would really rock if performed live. While James Holladay is a bit dated, it is very good also. Makes me wonder why they were never fully developed and included on an album. The demos of Satan, Ventura Highway, and Riverside are also interesting to listen too. I was a little disappointed with the "alternate mixes" in the set. They appear to be nothing more than the basic tracks before George Martin added the background strings and horns to them. I had hoped for a little more different/experimental sounds. I enjoyed Watership Down and Letter the most of the alternate mixes. Though I do wonder why they included 7 songs from Hideaway and only the three singles from Hearts? In the book they even talk about how they didn't think the songs they had for Hideaway were as good as previous albums, but they included 7 of them on the box set? Oh well, I gues every one of us would have chosen different songs if we had picked them. I highly recommend you get the box set if you have gotten it yet!

Now on the down side. It begs for a 4th CD! The package even has space for a 4th one! That way they could have included so much more "new" material, like the two other songs that were recorded during the Horse With No Name sessions. And I would bet that there are demos of most of the songs on the Heard CD in the archives somewhere. They could be included along with other throwaways like the legendary Norman. Plus I think a song or two from Human Nature should have been included. But like I said, I'm sure each one of us would have come up with a different song list.

Message: 12539 Posted: Wed Jul 19 11:47:44 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Holy Grail

GREAT MOVIE!!! That warped Brit sense of humor ( I LOVE the Black Knight and the "Bring out your dead" scenes) Arthurian Legend nicely skewed. Now I'm going to have to find my copy and watch it.

Message: 12538 Posted: Wed Jul 19 11:34:24 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Holy Grail

Great parody Jim! I could envision exactly what you were describing. On my vacation the past two weeks my kids watched Monty Python's "In Search of the Holy Grail" inummerable times. Even though I was driving and didn't get to see it, I did hear the bridge scene plenty of times.

Message: 12537 Posted: Wed Jul 19 11:13:39 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: Canadian Highway

From what I can gather via various Canadian online stores, it appears that Highway won't be released up here until August 4th. Anyone know if this is correct?


Message: 12536 Posted: Wed Jul 19 11:13:08 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Holy Grail

Oh sure, now Beechlady and Robyn have me thinking "Holy Grail," as in Monty Python. (King Arthur history badly mutated.) I'm thinking of the old man at the Bridge of Death asking these parodized questions:

Old Man (menacingly): "Stop. He who be an America fan like me must first answer these questions three. Then the other side he shall see."
"What is your name?"
Beechlady: "Beechlady."
Old Man: "What is your quest?"
Beechlady: "To seek the Holy Grail of America... the Highway boxed set."
Old Man: "What is your favorite song?"
Beechlady: "Horse With No Name."
Old Man (friendly): "Oh, off you go."

Beechlady safely crosses the Bridge of Death.

Jim: "What? That's easy" as he bravely and confidently steps forward.

Old Man (menacingly) : "Stop. What is your name?"
Jim: "Jim."
Old Man: "What is your quest?"
Jim: "I seek the America Grail."
Old Man: "What is the synch shift employed on the drum pattern of 'Woman Tonight'?"
Jim: "I don't know that."

Jim is flung screaming into the River of Death.

If you don't get the gag, your mind (and sense of humor) has not been yet warped by the Pythons. I'm hopeless.

Jim R.

Message: 12535 Posted: Wed Jul 19 09:44:43 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: World Book Encyclopedia vs. Hardcore America Fans

Geriatric is about aging and the aged.

Geriatric is Gerry's part of the song that begins with, "Just a little of nothing".

The importance of dew: In some parts of the world, dew is extremely important to a plant's growth and development.

The importance of Dew: In many parts of the world, Dew is extremely important to a fan's growth and development!

In Lima, Peru, for example, dew supplies more water than rain.

In this part of the universe, for example, Dew walks on water and reigns!

Message: 12534 Posted: Wed Jul 19 09:14:25 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: CORRECTION: Hot off the presses!!!!!!

Sorry everyone, but I gave you some bad information on Monday. In message 12487 I said that it was Oxygen Records that recorded the Nashville show. I went back and checked my mail message and it actually came from America's agency, Morey Management, not from Oxgyen. I always try to give accurate information so please accept my apologies for this incorrect information.

Message: 12533 Posted: Wed Jul 19 07:11:45 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Wednesday chat

7 pm Pacific. As always. See you there!

Message: 12532 Posted: Wed Jul 19 07:11:03 2000 By: Robyn

The Grassroots???? Those boys ( like me ) are from Pacoima CA!!!!!

Message: 12531 Posted: Wed Jul 19 06:56:26 2000 By: Nina

I called Fall River, MA get specifics about the America concert at Heritage Park scheduled for AUG 12th...and, unless
the Chamber of Commerce is mistaken, there ISN'T going to BE a concert there by America! The lady on the phone claims it will be a GRASSROOTS/BLOOD,SWEAT & TEARS concert???

Maybe Steve L. can check on this for us??? Did the guys cancel this date?



Message: 12530 Posted: Wed Jul 19 06:36:27 2000 By: Nina
Subject: Reply to Beth

Beth...I double checked the Collector's Choice catalog to see if their copy of HIGHWAY (Item # EWRHI98872) was somehow different than my "store-purchused" copy and I see nothing that sends up "red flags"
in my mind!! They mention the "booklet"...which is actually HOW the CD's are packaged the book really can't be left out! Also, displayed predominantly is the number "64", indicating the correct number of tracks included...OR AS GERRY SAYS: "the legal limit" of America music allowed!

I don't know if I agree with you, Gerry! I think the majority of fans on this chat folder could EASILY listen to ALOT more of your music with no adverse effects! We all have our favorites...some of which have been left off...and the two unknown cuts ,"Mitchum Junction" and "James Holladay", leave us wanting more !

Oh, I get it! The old show-biz saying applies here:

"Always leave them wanting more"!


Message: 12529 Posted: Wed Jul 19 06:09:08 2000 By: KAREN
Subject: Hi Guys!!

How is everyone? Just checking in...

Karen D.

Message: 12528 Posted: Wed Jul 19 05:24:58 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Holy Grail

you know (as dumb as I AM), I didn't even REALIZE that I'd written Gallahad (I had originally planned on typing Lancelot)in CAMELOT. I guess my inner self was looking after my brain once more!!!! LOL!!!!
I too LOVE ancient history (particularly Celtic)although I didn't specialize in it at college.......My daughter is, though!!!! (C=

TkH<---looking for scholarships now! It's never too early!!!!

Message: 12527 Posted: Wed Jul 19 05:20:47 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Attributes


Alternate Mixes (WOW on "Who Loves You" - COOL to hear w/o Sir George's lush strings!)


Demos (um can anyone say "SATAN"? SURE you






TkH<------------waiting for the 5th reprinting

Message: 12526 Posted: Wed Jul 19 05:16:01 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: drums

Personally if your going to "take up" an instrument the drums are a FINE choice!!!! The only *weird* thing for me to get used to was "proper" stick It didn't take me long, tho and I was up and running! It's really a GAS to be the backbone of a band! SUCH POWER, SUCH all encompassing POWER.....(C; (although what I'd REALLY love to learn is the Bass)

TkH<------my first "drum" song was "Seasons In The Sun" - ARGH!! Doesn't that date me? ROFL

Message: 12525 Posted: Wed Jul 19 03:33:15 2000 By: Spurs
Subject: Highway.

Hello everyone,no joy in this part of Australia so far,all I've done is baffle the entire staff,but I would point out that "View from the Ground" has been recently repackaged, much better than the copy I have.Meanwhile the search goes on.

Message: 12524 Posted: Tue Jul 18 22:56:14 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: My night with the box set

I started the evening by going to The Wiz. Being that this store is managed by Beavis and Butthead wannabes, I had very low expectations. Just as I thought, no one knew of the box set (or America). Not all was lost. I Bought a CD single by JEWEL...Then it was off to Tower Records in Carle Place, NY.
After harassing many goth looking store clerks (you know, black lipstick, black fingernail polish, black eyeliner, piercings...etc.) I finally found it......located in the "S" section. *sigh*
Turns out that I bought the last copy! This Tower sold five today. Wow! Even the store clerk was shocked.
I'm going to need to spend some time with this treasure...LOTS of time !! However, the book alone is definitely worth the price!!
Rainy Day is the reason I first picked up a guitar, so I really got a lump in my throat from reading about it. I'll post more about the box set later, after I've listened to it a few times. Thanks America!!!!!!


Message: 12523 Posted: Tue Jul 18 21:36:43 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Rhino Box Set

Please give us your review of the box and overall package.

Rob, you may not believe this but I haven't received my copy yet. It's in the mail and I should get it any day now. Until then, I'm afraid I can't give you a review. I'm enjoying reading everyone else's reviews and look forward to reading more. --Steve

Message: 12522 Posted: Tue Jul 18 20:04:37 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Thanks Mike B.

Thanks, Mike, for describing the differences between the demo recordings and the actual releases. I look forward to hearing Dan sing lead on "Donkey Jaw" (rather "Satan"). I like the title, "Donkey Jaw" much better than "Satan", by the way.

Too bad there's not a demo of a song written by "Brother G". I'd love to hear one of his.

Message: 12521 Posted: Tue Jul 18 19:40:46 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: HIGHWAY

Got mine today,special ordered it from Range Music, listen to Disc 3 on the way to/from work, the "new" stuff is great!
Well, I'm gonna go read now..................

Message: 12520 Posted: Tue Jul 18 19:29:52 2000 By: GerryK
Subject: box

I took the afternoon off, dropped by Best, picked up Highway and sat in the park w/ the Diskman and 30 yrs of America ..... what a way to spend an afternoon! ....

Message: 12519 Posted: Tue Jul 18 18:34:38 2000 By: Beth
Subject: drums

Sorry I haven't been around lately!! But! Does anyone have any advice in regard to taking up playing the drums? I am playing with the idea of joining our local Recovery Band, "Slow Children At Play". Bunch of reformed addicts, get together Tuesday nights and jam. They need a drummer...I've no experience whatsoever, but what all does it take? Is it hard to learn? Any stories welcome. Thanks!
Stay Tuned!

Message: 12518 Posted: Tue Jul 18 18:31:47 2000 By: Beth
Subject: HIGHWAY

Nina, do you know if we'll get all the good stuff if we order this set online versus buying it somewhere live & inperson? Sometimes internet stuff comes pretty bare? I'm concerned about liner notes & artwork. Anyone have advice? All I can say is, "Yea America!!"

Message: 12517 Posted: Tue Jul 18 18:27:04 2000 By: Beth
Subject: Lyrics

Conjunction Junction - What's My Function? !!!! Yes, brings back happy memories. There was another diddy about how a Bill becomes a Law. Funny how I still remember that stuff today!

Message: 12516 Posted: Tue Jul 18 18:14:28 2000 By: Mike Bunn
Subject: Re: Lots of Misc.

Ventura Highway dosn't have the trade mark two part intro lead. It's basicaly Dewey and his acoustic guitar rhythm with the same lyrics we all know except for a la,la, la instead of do, do, do in between. Riverside uses an electric guitar for the guitar solo. I think Satan has Dan on Lead vocal and a different lead, but will have to listen to Donkey Jaw again to be sure.

Message: 12515 Posted: Tue Jul 18 17:48:33 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Lots of Misc.

Thanks Nina for the information on Collector's Choice Music Store. Sounds excellent. Still debating between them and A&B Sound.

Jim, I can't recall ever hearing "Conjunction Junction" on Saturday mornings. In 1969, I was 13, so I probably wasn't watching many Saturday morning television shows. I definitely remember watching the Beatles cartoon show as a kid, though. It was one of my favorites back then. Hmmm, so "Conjunction Junction" borrowed the idea from Dewey's "Mitchum Junction", huh??? (LOL)

Steve, bummer! I can't download "M. Junction" and "James Holladay". When I try, it says I'm performing an illegal operation. Is anyone else experiencing the same thing? The problem is probably all on this end.

Will someone please tell us (me) what difference there is on the demos of "Ventura Highway", "Satan" (aka "Donkey Jaw"), and "Riverside" verses the actual release?

Kevin, I see on the concert schedule that the guys will be performing in Plano on September 23!

I heard "SGH" on the store radio in Kmart today. Went to Walmart and was walking past the men's clothing section when my eye caught hold of a white t-shirt with black letters. It had "America" on it and a star underneath "America". It wasn't the "AMERICA" logo of our guys, but it definitely caught my eye. I looked it over and saw that it was put out by "Faded Glory". The "a" on the end extended underneath the whole word of "America" with a flared-out "swish" style design.

Message: 12514 Posted: Tue Jul 18 17:23:39 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: I HAVE MINE!!!!!!!

So pleased to find it at Tower Records in Northridge ( they HAD two copies on display) I was heartened to see it listed among the new releases thoughtfully posted on the door to the store. After a day of "CUstomer Service Training" ( SMile when you say that was the basic information given, nice for newcomers, but I have been doing this type of work for 24 years) What a treat to find just what I wanted ( price about $50, before the outrageous Ca sales tax was added in).


Message: 12513 Posted: Tue Jul 18 17:22:20 2000 By: Rob
Subject: Rhino Box Set


Please give us your review of the box and overall package.


Message: 12512 Posted: Tue Jul 18 17:18:30 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Holy Grail

As we all know, only the pure of heart may see the Grail ( Arthurian Legend was my specialty in college).

Message: 12511 Posted: Tue Jul 18 16:11:23 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Concert listing.

I think it might be impossible to compile such a list. Or, if you did, we'd all need about a thousand times more disc space on our hard drives.

One thing that's cool about the box set is the artwork that shows all the ticket stubs, the newspaper clippings, etc. I've got a few more things I could have added. When they do Highway 2, 60 years of America, I'll try to remember to send them some of my momentos, like the America guitar picks, the Alibi button and about 15 concert ticket stubs.


P.S. I don't know about any one else, but I've had to re-read the story about America a number of times.

Message: 12510 Posted: Tue Jul 18 15:58:54 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Concert listing

Bob, I've tried to find a list of America's shows in the 90's and nobody even has that list. I think you'll be hard pressed to find a complete list starting back in the 70's. If you do, somehow, please share it and I'll see that it gets posted on the web site. --Steve

Message: 12509 Posted: Tue Jul 18 15:34:33 2000 By: Nina
Subject: Highway...ON SALE...Already?

Don't know if this helps anybody...but yesterday I received a catalog from
COLLECTOR'S CHOICE MUSIC, and they offer the new box set for only $37.88! Regular shipping cost is $3.95 and is listed as 5-10 day
delivery...Faster shipping cost $6.50 for 2-5 day delivery...and Fastest is something like $16.50 (Next Day Delivery).

Phone is Toll Free at 800-923-1122

Online ordering at

If I hadn't found HIGHWAY this morning, THIS "Collector's Choice" site was going to be my pick! It's a good deal...even with the "faster" shipping and handling charges!

Jim R.!!! I know ALL about "Conjunction Junction"!!! I use it in the classroom all the time, along with those other "catchy" Schoolhouse Rock tunes!


Message: 12508 Posted: Tue Jul 18 15:03:48 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Lyrics.

<<"Mitchum Junction" is the first song I've ever heard with the word, "conjunction". Only Sir Dewey!!>>

Johnny, obviously you've never heard of the song "Conjunction Junction," from Grammar Rock (that 1960s-70s Saturday morning, between-programs, animated educational segment). LOL. -- Jim R.

Message: 12507 Posted: Tue Jul 18 13:18:43 2000 By: BobT
Subject: Concert listing

Does anyone out there know if there exists a complete concert listing of all the America shows ever performed? I realize that such a listing would be miles and miles long, but I've seen it done for a few other bands. I'm trying to put together a list of all the shows that I've attended (including dates), and unfortunately I can't find the tickets stubs from the 2 America shows that I've had the pleasure of seeing. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Message: 12506 Posted: Tue Jul 18 13:07:07 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Holy Grail

Welllllllp, went to 3 store prior to 10 am to find "Highway". No luck, BUT on my trip to the mall at 10 found Gallahad perusing the "Boxed Set" rack in Camelot and LO AND BEHOLD what did I see?

YOU GUESSED IT! I finally got something RIGHT on the first day!!!!! Makes up for the blanks I shot earlier this year, I guess!!!! (C= Muy Contento!!! I feel my luck changing (this and the casino thingy!)
Now if I can just hear Windwave LIVE,,,,,,,,,,,,

TkH<------Loving the alternate mix of Submarine Ladies!!!!

Message: 12505 Posted: Tue Jul 18 11:59:25 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Box Set Disc 3 Demos

Disc 3 of the new America box set has a couple of never before heard demos. I know that some of you have been unable to get a copy of the box set yet so here are links to MP3 soundclips of "James Holladay" and "Mitchum Junction". Thanks to Kevin Sutton for making them available. You can download them for the next 7 days by clicking on the following links:

James Holladay
Mitchum Junction

Message: 12504 Posted: Tue Jul 18 11:42:40 2000 By: Mike Bunn
Subject: Re: Box Set

A Media Play in Salt Lake City had three copies. Now they have two. Had to jump to the last five demo songs while eating lunch and it's the early 70's all over again. Love the two new songs and demo versions. Will have to wait until after work to read the book and listen to it in order.

Message: 12503 Posted: Tue Jul 18 10:05:42 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Box Set

Great to see that Amazon now has HIGHWAY & VAN GO GAN, GERRY'S solo masterpiece.

Message: 12502 Posted: Tue Jul 18 09:38:23 2000 By: SUAT
Subject: hıghway and last unıcorn

hı everybody thıs suat from ıstanbul Turkey. ı got few questıons , ı am so glad ıf you answer me . 1- do ı have to buy the soundtrack of the last unıcorn as a member of Americas fan . ı have no ınformatıon about thıs album . can you tell some ınformatıon please 2- where do have to buy hıghway album ? because ı cant waıt for at least 3-4 mounts to release ın turkey so ı have to buy from amazon or somewhere else from ınternet . but dıfferent prıces makes me suspıcıus(rhıno 48$-amazon 45$ 15$ ) ı want to why dıfferent prıces. please reply me for my problems .also you are goıng to help the people who buy the last album of amerıca ın turkey for the fıst tıme

Message: 12501 Posted: Tue Jul 18 09:15:07 2000 By: Nina
Subject: Highway

Went out early this morning "in search of" America's new boxed set...

Was surprised to find it so quickly ( only one half hr. from my home!) at the nearest STRAWBERRIES! They only had 2 stocked on the shelf...the final cost was $53.00 + change.

Holding the book in my hands is like holding the bible, I swear! To give you an idea of the length...I've been reading for over an hour, and am only up to the album HIDEAWAY! Lots of comments by Gerry, Dewey, and Dan on individual songs...VERY interesting indeed!

I want to finish reading before I play the CD's....(how "patient" is THAT???!!! ) I gotta go!

GOOD LUCK to everyone in finding it!!! If I can find it out here in the "sticks", then YOU should be able to find it too, JOHNNY!


Message: 12500 Posted: Tue Jul 18 08:29:29 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: To Robyn

Okay Robyn. Thanks! Hotmail is down for me too.

Message: 12499 Posted: Tue Jul 18 07:40:07 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: misc

Went into my local Virgin Megastore. Was greeted by a blank look from the clerk when I asked for Highway by America Asked me "Is that the name of the Album American Highway. Bit my tongue and said no, the group is America , the box set is Highway. Checks again. Nope. Is it an old record? no, it's due out tomorrow ( this was yesterday) Check back tomorrow, we don't even get new listings on the computer till then. Worth a try anyway ( sigh) If they don't have it Tower Records will! ( I hope I hope)

Johnny--my email is down ( what do I want for free?) I will let you know when your package arrrives, one way or another.

Message: 12498 Posted: Tue Jul 18 06:23:44 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: To Woodz

Have a wonderful Birthday! Congrats on the baby to be!

Message: 12497 Posted: Tue Jul 18 05:28:33 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: To Pete Re: America's new box set

I got this site from John's post--you can order the boxed set-make sure it says Highway--it is available there--I just couldn't

Message: 12496 Posted: Tue Jul 18 05:16:25 2000 By: Steve Nelson
Subject: Box Set

What a wonderful gift! Listened to it till I could not keep my eyes open. As stated earlier, the book is well worth the price on it's own.
To you all that are mentioned in the liner notes congrats! Nice touch.

Message: 12495 Posted: Tue Jul 18 04:58:45 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Hall of Fame

ROFLMAO! Well said, Mr. Corbett!!! (C=

TkH<-----Today's the DAY!!!!!

Message: 12494 Posted: Tue Jul 18 04:43:22 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Happy Birthday WOODZ !!!!!!

Like Johnny, I want to wish the great guitar/keyboard player and DADDY-TO-BE Michael Woods a very happy and healthy birthday!!!!!!!


Message: 12493 Posted: Tue Jul 18 04:23:01 2000 By: Pete
Subject: America's new box set

Does anyone have the Web-site that I could order the new box set (Highway 30 years) thank-you.

Message: 12492 Posted: Mon Jul 17 22:58:56 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: A Message To WOODZ

Michael, it's now officially July 18th here where I am. So, I want to wish you a huge HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

We've met in person only once, but I could tell from just that one time that you're an easy-goin', friendly, fun-lovin' guy. It's very evident that you love what you're doing. It really shows when you're on stage. I always think to myself, "Wow, he gets paid for it, too!"

In the words of Gerry:

We all have every faith in you
And everything you do
All the way round"

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Again & Keep-On Rockin', Man!!!


Message: 12491 Posted: Mon Jul 17 21:29:46 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Lyrics.

Very cool lyrics!!! It's like "James Holladay" and "Mitchum Junction" are one whole song. They flow from one song right into the other. How incredible!

Do you notice that both songs have alliteration with the letter "s", and both have the word "southern" : "setting southern sun" and "strong southern sky". What a strange coincidence.

"Mitchum Junction" is the first song I've ever heard with the word, "conjunction". Only Sir Dewey!!

One of the definitions of "conjunction" is: "occurrence at the same time". Well, that's exactly what happened just a while ago with Kevin posting the lyrics and my request for them. I was browsing Rhino's website and came back to the chat folder. I posted my message and saw Kevin's afterward. That's pretty eerie!!!!

I love Dan's lyrics: "Two years passed living in joy/When out of the blue came a baby boy".

Message: 12490 Posted: Mon Jul 17 21:01:13 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Kevin, Thanks For The Hit

Thanks Kevin! We're on the same wavelength and it's kinda scary. Now, I have to go back and read 'em.

Message: 12489 Posted: Mon Jul 17 20:58:14 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Misc. Topics

John C, thanks for the wonderful info. One of the questions on Rhino's "America Contest" has me completely stumped. It's question #2: "America's name was partly inspired by what other rock group? Possible answers: Boston, Chicago, Kansas, Alabama, or Texas?

I've never heard that it was any of them. My guess is Chicago if any of the above. Can I cheat and have the answer, please?

John L, thanks for the message regarding A&B Sound. I definitely want them as an option.

LisaRose, I wish I had an opportunity to "flash cash"...wah!!! I have the cash and I'm ready to flash (the cash, that is).

Robyn, the package is on it's way via Priority Mail today.

Everyone and anyone, can someone please print the lyrics to "Mitchum Junction" and "James Holladay"? I need my fix!!!

Message: 12488 Posted: Mon Jul 17 20:48:42 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Lyrics.

James Holladay
by Dan Peek

James Holladay was a working man
He made his living on the land
But living alone was too much to stand
So Jim found a woman to understand

Two years passed living in joy
When out of the blue camea baby boy
Just to keep up the family name
Mister Holladay said we'll call him little James

So you better run, run, run, run...
Jim, you gotta run away
You better run, run, run, run...
Jim, you gotta run away

Little James became a working man
He followed his pa right across the land
And at the end of the day when his work was done
He'd sit and watch the setting southern sun

Nineteen years had come and gone
Little Jimmy had grown up big and strong
He didn't know that his time had come
When they handed him a shiny black gun

So his pa said, run, run, run, run...
Jim, you gotta getaway
So you better run, run, run, run, run...
Jim, you gotta get away

Mitchum Junction
by Dewey Bunnell

Railroad smoke sifting through the strong southern sky
I always knew that one day I'd see you die
Said the man at the junction
To the boy in conjection
With the murder of a man
With the murder of a man

Railroad smoke sifting through the strong southern sky
I always knew that one day I'd see you die
Said the man at the junction
To the boy in conjunction
With the murder of a man
With the murder

Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na
With the murder of a man
With the murder of a man

Message: 12487 Posted: Mon Jul 17 20:11:03 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Hot off the presses!!!!!!

John, thanks for sharing all of that information. By the way, it was actually Oxygen Records that recorded the Nashville show and got it put on TNN. Oxygen sent me a mail message on May 26th telling me about the recording but they didn't know at the time when it would be aired. The timing is perfect to go along with the box set.

Message: 12486 Posted: Mon Jul 17 19:43:58 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: to Johnny

Ordered my Highway and so far have just received the auto-reply "Thank You for your order". I'll keep trying to find out if they will in fact stock it.

Message: 12485 Posted: Mon Jul 17 18:59:16 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Boxed set

LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT! I begged the guy in this store to sell it to me a day early. He said as long as I gave him cash and didn't require a receipt--he would. So, I just came back from Long Island to my home in Queens and am just listening to it. I love the look of the box and the material in it. It will look great on my coffee table. So far, sounds great but am only up to "Sandman". It was well worth the $1000 I had to pay for it (just kidding). It was a little bit over $50 but that is the price you have to pay for quality material.

Message: 12484 Posted: Mon Jul 17 18:10:55 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: And more!!!

This is also from!


The 1970's wasn't all disco, punk, and heavy metal. Unforgettable acoustic guitar-and-harmony laced tunes like "A Horse With No Name" and "Tin Man" are just as emblazoned in our brains as "Stayin' Alive" and "Free Bird." The group America was responsible for some of the tastiest--not to mention, most popular--mellow rock sides ever waxed, and the very best of 'em are collected on our new three-CD box set Highway.

It's got all the hits, plus primo album cuts and previously unreleased tracks.

To celebrate, we're going to give you a stab at winning some groovy prizes by showing off your knowledge about the band via our triva contest below.

We'll randomly pick five first prize winners who will receive a free copy of the box set along with an America poster signed by group members Gerry Beckley and Dewey Bunnell.

And five second prize winners will get the signed poster alone.
All you have to do is scroll down and give us your name and contact info as well as answering the trivia questions. Your entry must be received before August 14th. So go for it!

Message: 12483 Posted: Mon Jul 17 18:08:13 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Critics

To rewrite an old saying:
"those we can do, those who can't, become critics"

Message: 12482 Posted: Mon Jul 17 18:07:29 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Hot off the presses!!!!!!

Here's Rhino's PR department in action... Ladies and gentlemen, START YOUR VCRs!!



Mellow rock kingpins America are enjoying a revival of late, with Rhino/Warner Archives 3-CD Highway: 30 Years Of America box hitting the streets July 18th and the band hitting the road in live performance throughout the month. But even if you aren't lucky enough to catch the group in person, you can still see the band perform such
classics as "A Horse With No Name" and "Ventura Highway."

Airing Tuesday, July 25 from 10:00-11:00 PM, ET/PT, CLASSIC ROCK: THE HITS -- GROOVES AND HARMONIES features Dewey Bunell, Gerry Beckley and co. live in concert from the Wildhorse Saloon in Nashville. The show, taped on May 25, also features the multiple Grammy-winning jazz rock outfit Blood, Sweat & Tears ("You've Made Me So Very Happy," "Spinning Wheel," "And When I Die").

America, a trio that was formed in the late 1960s by the offspring of American service personnel stationed in the United Kingdom, burst onto the pop scene in 1972 with its signature hit, "A Horse With No Name." That same year the group won a Grammy for Best New Artist. The band's many hits include "I Need You," "Ventura Highway," "Tin Man," "Lonely People," "Sister Golden Hair" and "You Can Do Magic."

Message: 12481 Posted: Mon Jul 17 17:34:11 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Hall of Fame

Earlier this year, Goldmine magazine ran an article with a couple dozen bands they felt should be in the Hall of Fame. America was number one (alphabetically, of course)!

So why do critics hate America? Because they had soft hits in the days of Donnie Osmond and David Cassady, and critics were on the prowl for anyone who sounded like an imitation, or who seemed to be the next teenage craze. The fact that they didn't trash hotels, wear makeup, yell out their lyrics, smash guitars, eat rats, punch out reporters, OD on heroin, have muliple girlfriends and orgies, have a smash disco hit, try to be the next Peter Frampton, have a hit TV variety show, appear in a movie, write columns in teeny-bopper magazines, sell dolls and trading cards, protest against Nixon, Vietnam, or nuclear energy, cross-dress, get thrown in jail for fighting, speeding, or punching out a cop, hibernate for years on end, convert to Islam or Bhai-Brith, advocate est, streak, get tattoos or noserings, break up only to record a failed solo album and get back together, get shot, host American Bandstand, buy mansions and hire bodyguards, crash in an airplane, or join the Sun City ilk doesn't mean their music can't stand on its own. But then, critics like that kind of stuff.


Message: 12480 Posted: Mon Jul 17 17:22:09 2000 By: Rob
Subject: Bravo Rhino

"Highway" is everything I hoped for and more. The booklet is so well put together. Barry did a great job. The photography and memorabilia is super. And as a Dan Peek fan, I'm very satisfied with "James Holladay". The acoustic guitar work is vintage "Homecoming". This really is a FIRST CLASS effort by Rhino. This is the perfect bookend or tribute to a classy 30-year run! Yes, Barry, I'm hoping for more America music too.

Message: 12479 Posted: Mon Jul 17 16:56:28 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: My Dear

Excellent review of the box set, Steve. However, I have a tremendous soft spot for MY DEAR, and I'm glad it was included. Initially, it was the most difficult track for me to get used to on YOUR MOVE, but I've really grown to love it. Listen to Gerry's fantastic counter melody and harmonies. They are awesome. Also, I just have a tremendous attachment to the entire YOUR MOVE era, so it's difficult for me to want anything cut from it...yeah I know it's purely emotional+subjective, but I can't help it :)
Now I'm off to the store to find that box set. Let's see if the tattoo riddled, hip-hop polluted 15 year old at customer service will know about America's box set. I hope he'll know that it's not a Limp Bizket bootleg. LOL


Message: 12478 Posted: Mon Jul 17 15:40:41 2000 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Box set review

Just wanted to share a few comments on the box set with the rest of you out there. As a retailor,I recieved my copy a day early. I'd have
paid the money just for the booklet enclosed! Very detailed story on the band,and some different insight into the group than even I was
aware of! There's nothing "new" in the set save for the Demo versions of the songs previously mentioned. That "new" track will have to wait for a future release. I did get to listen to all 3 disks today,and
while I would have chosen some different cuts from some of the LP's,
I think Rhino pretty much got it right. The only charting single not
to be included was 1982's "right before your eyes". I'd have deleted
"My dear" from "Your move" and included that one. Otherwise,its a
fantastic collection! Gerry,Dewey & Dan share their comments on the
songs and there is even commentary from Sir George Martin in there
as well. Also missing from the set is "From a Moving Train",which Rhino initially had included. While its not an actual 30 year span,
Its a pretty clear representation of the band. I hope others find it
enjoyable as well! Hey,look for MY name in the liner notes too!!!

Message: 12477 Posted: Mon Jul 17 15:20:04 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Highway.

What an awesome job Barry Alfonso does with his history of America. There are some great touches in this booklet, including excerpts from the script from America's TV appearance with Bob Hope. Great insight into the Capitol days, especially the Russ Ballard/Your Move project. Rhino/Warner Archives really does justice to America's 30 years with this box set, including a touching tribute to Dan Peek.


Message: 12476 Posted: Mon Jul 17 15:18:29 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: R&R HOF Politics

I agree, Mark, that we shouldn't be overly concerned with America's status relative to the Hall of Fame. But I am tired of the shallow critics who have dogged the band since the beginning. The now-infamous "shoes" comments were pointless, especially given the appearance of today's younger artists (pierced and purpled in peculiar places) who seem to gain positive attention from today's critics. I remember reading a Rolling Stone book in the 1980s reviewing rock groups. Their rating for each America album was less than two stars, with most earning only one star, out of a possible five. Worse yet, the summary even decided to focus on the "H" title names, making some sort of lame alphabet soup comment as an added criticism. I'm sorry, but I think rock journalists decided it was safe to use America as whipping boys to show they didn't like everything they heard. The fact is, from 1971 to 1975, America sold BIG, and obviously influenced fans who are still loyal to the band a quarter century later.

To be honest, I've never been big on critics anyway. I find too many critics (less than a majoriity overall, but all-too-prevelant nonetheless) to be pretentious and self-righteous, assuming their ideas hold more value than "the masses." At least that's my broad review. If they don't like my opinion, who cares.

Jim R.

Message: 12475 Posted: Mon Jul 17 15:00:09 2000 By: Steve Jones
Subject: Re: Way to go...Rhino

It's about time! Lonnnnng over due gents!...HOOH HAH!!!

Message: 12474 Posted: Mon Jul 17 14:59:02 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: RE: PEACE 3rd Album

Thanks, Tom. I'll be looking forward to its release.

Jim R.

Message: 12473 Posted: Mon Jul 17 14:36:35 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Thanks Jeff

Thanks a lot, Jeff. It all sounds very cool!! Eager to hear from others tomorrow.

Message: 12472 Posted: Mon Jul 17 14:13:59 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: Johnny...

MITCHUM JUNCTION is a Mr. Bunnell song no doubt about it Johnny. JAMES HOLLADAY is quite a song too. the acoustic guitar sounds great.

I really like the alternate mixed songs. The banjo is crisp on SUBMARINE LADIES.



Message: 12471 Posted: Mon Jul 17 13:20:40 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Highway.

I've got a copy, too. Of ocurse, the first thing I did was go to the "new" songs, "Mitchum Junction" and "James Holladay." My god, it's like Homecoming all over again, if only for just two songs. I'm telling you, the $42 I spent was worth it just to hear both of those songs. I haven't even had a chance to check out the booklet, only to say it looks impressive. There are a whole lot of great shots of the guys.


Message: 12470 Posted: Mon Jul 17 13:20:02 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: More Info , Jeff, More Info!

Jeff, you're taunting us big time! Please tell us more especially about "Mitchum Junction" and "James Holladay"!

Message: 12469 Posted: Mon Jul 17 13:17:20 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Could There Be A Single From "Highway"?

Although, we haven't heard Dewey's song, Mitchum Junction", wouldn't it be great if Rhino promoted it as a single? Just think...the listening public would be hearing the same America that they heard during the time of chart hits, "Horse", "I Need You", and "Sandman".
Perhaps that would lead to a renewed interest.

Something that Rob mentioned to me yesterday that I look forward to on "Highway", is reading Dewey, Gerry, or Dan's comment about each song...much like Dewey and Gerry did on "Encore".

This morning, I went to the only music store in town and confirmed that they wouldn't be getting the box set. I would have to order it and it would be about 2 weeks. I said I could probably order it from Canada and get it cheaper and quicker. So John L, I will need to know what you find out from A&B Sound, please Sir.

Message: 12468 Posted: Mon Jul 17 13:01:59 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: I've got mine...

Schoolkids records in Athens had one copy of HIGHWAY and I'm a happy camper.

Jeff B.

Message: 12467 Posted: Mon Jul 17 12:36:12 2000 By: connie
Subject: Re: Solano County Fair show

Virginia - Thank you so much for your review of the Solano County Fair Show. I just KNEW I was going to miss out on a fantastic show. The last time I saw AMERICA was in Reno, a couple of years ago. I hope you have a wonderful time at the Mountain Winery Concert.

I think you're very considerate in respecting their privacy. I once saw Dewey walk by after a show at Konocti Harbor and was in a quandry as well. I let him walk by and then later called out to him that I enjoyed the show. He waved and yelled back, "Thanks!" My moment of pure joy!

Thanks again for your review and fun details!! ---- Connie

Message: 12466 Posted: Mon Jul 17 12:21:49 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re: Sythesizers/Perspective 2

...o ya.....Dan would have to be included..... :-)

Message: 12465 Posted: Mon Jul 17 12:15:42 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re: Sythesizers/Perspective

Ditto BC....."I would love to see them go back into the studio with just a couple of acoustic guitars and some percussion and recreate the magic of their first album."......if not in the studio an unplugged concert would be fine.....

Message: 12464 Posted: Mon Jul 17 10:50:45 2000 By: Rob
Subject: Way to go...Rhino

As I mentioned on Saturday, I was fortunate enough to have had a sneak peak at the Highway Box. I think it is exceptional to say the least. The biography written inside by Barry Alfonso is very well done. Quotes from Dewey, Gerry and Dan add quite a bit to the listening experience too. I talked with Ch'vy Nash this morning, and from what I understand, everyone is pretty happy with the box. Rhino deserves quite a bit of credit here. The packaging is superb. And the book itself is over 70 pages. I would honestly pay $20-$30 for the biography, along with the great pics dating right back to the beginning. Three cheers for Steve Lowry whose name appears in the credits. Steve has done a lot for renewing my interest in this terrific band. (P.S. Gerry, my son still remembers the great talk he had with you at Rye Playland about Power Rangers, and the new Mac you bought for Joe. Of course, he also appreciated hearing "Last Unicorn" that night too).

Message: 12463 Posted: Mon Jul 17 09:26:49 2000 By: dofd
Subject: solano county fair show

Just wanted to second what Virginia wrote earlier: It was one heck of a show. My wife, 12-year-old son and 7-year-old daughter went with me -- none with great expectations, I'm sure -- and enjoyed it so much that they asked me to play America tapes on the drive home.

I hadn't seen America live in about 5 years, and it was great to see the guys' energy and enthusiasm, particularly since they had played across the country the night before. There were numerous highlights, but it was a pleasure to hear "Hangover," "Woman Tonight" and "Don't Cross the River" in the rotation. For my money, "Sandman" was the real show-stopper.

As for Mark's e-mail, I hate to say so, but I agree. I think what America needs is a hit song, not another repackaging of the old stuff, as much as well all love it. There are several songs on "Human Nature" that could be hits with proper promotion, but it doesn't sound like Rhino's willing to give it.

As for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, America has never gotten its due from the critics, but we all know the band is much more deserving then some that have been honored. Maybe we should adopt Groucho Marx's attitude: "I wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."

Message: 12462 Posted: Mon Jul 17 08:46:23 2000 By: Steve Nelson
Subject: Highway

I have just been informed by FedEx that at 8:06 this a.m. my cd was put on the local truck for delivery. I will be listening to the box set this evening. Can't wait!!!

Message: 12461 Posted: Mon Jul 17 08:45:19 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Virginia, Andy, and John L.

I have found that if they (A & B Sound) have the item in stock I get in within 3 days. I have waited up to 5 weeks for something that was special order. With Highway, I would think that they would stock it, as it is coming out on a fairly big label but I don't know for sure. I'm going to order mine today and I'll see what they say when I do. I'll let you know.


Message: 12460 Posted: Mon Jul 17 08:11:24 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: R&R HOF Politics

Part of me says who needs them! America doesn't need the R&R HOF to validate their career!

But another part of me would love to see them get their just recognition. It seems that something happened to the "status" of America during the 80s. I don't know if it were misfires such as Perspective that contributed to it or the fact that America was never big into the anti-government/drug counterculture that seems to now dominate the media elite (and R&R HOF). But America has been pretty much dismissed as a "shallow pop band" by the media elite. This despite the fact that they were universally recognized as a "super group" who's style was very influential during their heyday in the early and mid 70s. I guess history has been rewriten.

I keep hoping that the next release will lead to a reawakening, but have been disappointed that the media just turns their nose the other way. I hope Highway will be different, but realistically I doubt that it will make much of a ripple. Sorry to be such downer but the only way I think Highway will catch on is if a single is released from it which makes the charts. But Rhino has no plans to do so. I still think Wednesday Morning would have been an outstanding candidate. Without a hit single to push Highway, the hardcore fans like us, will be the only ones willing to shell out $ 40 for it. The causal fan will be content with offerings such as History and Encore. I think America's only hope of getting into the HOF is if they can produce another hit. However, with their recent commercial failures, no record company with the muscle needed to push a hit would be interested in them. I think the only chance of getting media attention and perhaps the attention of a major label would be a reunion with Dan. But Gerry and Dewey have already vetoed that idea. Therefore, I think the best we can hope for is more of the same, new material released on minor labels or the internet every 4 or 5 years which is ignored by all except the hardcore fans. That's better than nothing, but I think America deserves so much more.

Message: 12459 Posted: Mon Jul 17 08:09:54 2000 By: SUAT
Subject: re john "turkey"

thank you for your reply
ı had every albums that you wrote ın the message (all casette,longplay and half of them ıs cd)

ı also wanted to know somethıng that howmuch albums sold ın whole world or how can ı learn for each album . Because ı want to know howmany people had same feelıngs wıth me when they are lıstetnıng amerıca. sometımes ıts very ınterestıng to me that, ı am lıstenıng them ın ıstanbul ın turkey at 24:00 whıle you are lıstenıng ın Calıfornıa or some other placeses that ı even dont know where ıt ıs

ı also wanted know (you see ı am hungary for any ınformatıon of amerıca) ıf you have got any turkısh fan and where can ı fınd hım

Message: 12458 Posted: Mon Jul 17 05:28:42 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Andy and the moving truck stop....

I hope you didn't eat any cream based soups? (C;

TkH<-----your synth-loving!

Message: 12457 Posted: Mon Jul 17 05:26:39 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Dec 27th at the casino!!!!!

Oh, JOY, oh BLISS!!!! Now I can see America and lose myself in the hypnotic quarter slots too! My Dad always takes me up to Mount Pleasent for my birthday and Christmas (good Daddy, GOOD DADDY)in leiu of! I'm VERY PLEASED!!! Thank you gents and ladies!!!!


TkH<------dreaming of that $20 sliding into the machine and pulling the lever for the first time....rofl!

Message: 12456 Posted: Mon Jul 17 00:46:36 2000 By: TomP
Subject: RE: PEACE 3rd Album

Answer to Jim Riccioli:
I don't have details right now, but I do know that a 3rd PEACE album will be released, and from what I understand it will be SOON!
When I find out more I will let you know.
Tom Peek

Message: 12455 Posted: Sun Jul 16 21:31:44 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Virginia, Andy, and John L.

Virginia, I really enjoyed your review of the Solano County Fair concert. Yes, you ARE amazingly polite. That, however, doesn't surprise me about you.

Andy, I thought you were going to tell us the song you heard at the truck stop was "Hot Town". I was beginning to visualize the clock on the wall; flies on the window; and that sweaty and sweet waitress.

You're right..."FAMT" would have surprised me, too. By the way, did you have pizza there? If so, was it "Bad Pizza, Good Andy" or "Bad Andy, Good Pizza"? (From the Domino's Pizza TV ad for those in the dark.)

John, I was thinking about ordering "Highway" from A&B Sound because of the great price, thanks. A notation on their site says delivery is 6-8 weeks. Is it always that long? I don't think I can wait 6-8 weeks while everyone else is enjoying the great booklet (thanks to Rob for that info) and the handful of demo and new songs.

Message: 12454 Posted: Sun Jul 16 20:37:40 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: Highway

Just checked my local online music supplier. A & B Sound has Highway listed for $37 plus change (US). ($55 Canadian). Very encouraging to see it listed. (

Message: 12453 Posted: Sun Jul 16 19:22:13 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: From a Moving Truck Stop

I forgot to share this story with everyone. It happened on my car ride back from California en route to my home in New York.
I was having a late night dinner at some truck stop in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. I think the P.A. system in this truck stop was playing mostly twangy country music. Anyway, halfway done with my food, I heard a familiar sound, but I couldn't quite make it out. When the singing started, my jaw almost hit the floor. It was FROM A MOVING TRAIN!! Boy was I shocked ! I was hoping against hope that they'd play the entire HUMAN NATURE CD, but no luck there. I guess it didn't matter since I played every AMERICA and Sarah McLachlan CD to death during the 2 1/2 weeks that I was on the road. Still, it was a pleasant shock to here an AMERICA tune in a public place other than SGH or HWNN (not that there is anthing wrong with them, of course !)


Message: 12452 Posted: Sun Jul 16 18:23:08 2000 By: Yng Moon
Subject: Re: Room For Summer CD

"Room For Summer".....a must buy !! Had a listen to it this weekend. "Carol Ann" a great mix of both Jeff and Gerrys smooth voices. You'll totally get your moneys worth when you invest in this awesome CD because, at the end of it's thirteen track's, Jeff adds two bonus being another version of "Carol Ann", and one of my other favorites none other than... "Room For Summer". I know there are alot of you putting out for music this month.....being that the boxset comes out this "TUESDAY"..(the 18th), but when possible go for this one won't be sorry....enjoy

Message: 12451 Posted: Sun Jul 16 15:53:25 2000 By: Virginia
Subject: Solano County Fair show

My first concert since last August and it was GREAT! I dragged my husband (likes the music, not a big fan) to four concerts last summer and he thought this one was the best of the bunch. Me, too.

We got to the fairgrounds about two hours before the show and headed straight to the theater to get seats. I saw Dewey out wandering and called hi to him. It was noisy in the midway and I guess he didn't hear me. I was in a quandry about whether to approach him or not, this, after all, being his down time. I chose not to, but would appreciate feedback from those of you who are veteran concert-goers. What does one do when faced with this situation? Anyway, we got to the theater and got seats near the front right in the center. Not ten minutes later, I saw Gerry and Michael come in and walk toward the area that led backstage. There was no way I could have reached them without calling attention to them, so once again, I let an opportunity slip by. I know some of you are reading this thinking I'm nuts, but I was just trying to respect their privacy. Thinking back now, I'm kind of sorry I didn't make an attempt to say hello to them. Some time later, however, I saw Dewey slip through the door to the exhibition hall next door and decided to chance it since he was out of view. I said hello and introduced myself. He was very gracious, but was headed out the other way, so I didn't want to take up any more of his time. (Am I freaking polite, or what?!)

The concert started on time at 7:30. Pete announced them, and I found myself wondering where Scott was. It was a modified long set lacking only Mirror to Mirror, Another Try, and Pages. It was great to hear Wind Wave and Hangover live for the first time and I'm always happy to hear Three Roses, I favorite of mine that doesn't always get played at every concert. The audience was an ecclectic mix of folks and very receptive. By the time they got to Sandman, and SGH, everyone was really revved up and yelled for HWNN after the guys left the stage. Apparently most of these folks don't frequent the chat folder or they would've known Horse is always the encore. I had a wonderful time and Dewey, Gerry, Brad, Michael, and Willie were in great form despite having flown in that day from the East coast. A few of us diehards found the backstage door, ever hopeful. The venue crew tried to shoo us away, but failed, obviously not understanding America fans! Dewey came out to a waiting car, but signed pictures and CD liners for us before heading off. We were told by the venue folks that Gerry had left immediately following the show. I am hoping to have better luck 7/23 at the Mountain Winery concert. I'm thankful we got the long show in Vallejo because I have a feeling the next will be short as America is splitting the bill with (oh joy!) Rick Springfield. I called the box office to find out which is the opening act, but no one seemed to know. I'm hoping it's America so we can leave afterward. I can do without Jesse's Girl. I know Johnny will find that hard to believe (LOL).

Thanks to America, band and crew for another terrific show. I am anxiously waiting for next Sunday. The Mountain Winery is a wonderful venue. I'm assuming Erin will be there. Any other Bay Area fans?

Connie, it's a shame you weren't able to make it to the show. I hope you'll be able to get to another before too long.

Message: 12450 Posted: Sun Jul 16 11:09:30 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: R&R HOF Politics

I received the following message from Robert Burgess who has been working hard to get America inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I know that all of us appreciate his tremendous efforts which only go to show that the R&R HOF is just a bunch of political nonsense. Here's Robert's letter:


Over the past year I have exhausted every avenue that I know of to get some attention garnered for America to be recognized in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I have sent out numerous letters to board members and rock jounalists that I know are on the committee. These letters are either completely ignored or in a few rare instances I would receive a form letter thanking me for my interest in the Hall of Fame and giving me information on how to be a member (which I already am!).

I have been in various chatrooms regarding America and the general perception that I receive is that other groups are more deserving. Another misconception is that America is simply an "oldies band" who aren't doing anything new. They have no idea that they are still making new music. Related to this there is just about no airplay for their new stuff. I tried to get some support from some of the radio stations around here (the Baltimore-Washington area) and it seems that America seems to fall through the cracks in that the oldies stations play their 70's music and the stations that play the 90's music are playing some other format.

If you have any suggestions I would appreciate it. At this point I really don't know what to do. Maybe the "Highway" compilation will pick up a little attention. I apologize for not being able to accomplish more. You may put this letter on the chat folder if you think it might help. I would appreciate any suggestions that anyone might have.

During my research I read a very interesting article about Ozzy Osbourne of Black Sabbath and their nomination to the Rock Hall. Ozzy Osbourne wrote a scathing response to the induction process. He stated that he doubted that any one member of the committe had ever even been to a Black Sabbath concert in their life. He wrote that he did not agree that there was no fan participation in the process and he basically said that if the fans had no say in it he did not want the "honor". While Ozzy Osbourne is not my cup of tea. I can see his point. Some of the letters that i sent out were certified, restricted delivery and I did not even get the confirmation cards back. It is so obvious that the Rock Hall committee has no interest in fan input. I am sure that they consider themselves the "experts" in this area and the fans do not matter. This is a sad commentary.

Robert Burgess

P.S. Steve, keep up the great work on the web site! I always put the site on all of my correspondence so people can get some great information on the band.

Message: 12449 Posted: Sun Jul 16 10:09:43 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: 2nd Place in Song Contest

Guillermo Albelo and his band, Etcetera, took 2nd place at the International Song Contest recently held in San Francisco. I shared his covers of America songs a few weeks ago and he really is good. Congratulations Guillermo. You can go to the following link to read about it (but it's all in Spanish):

Message: 12448 Posted: Sun Jul 16 10:02:45 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Room For Summer CD

FYI: Jeff Larson's Room For Summer CD is now available at If you liked Watercolor Sky, you'll love Room For Summer which includes the song "Carol Ann" with Gerry Beckley on background vocals.

Message: 12447 Posted: Sat Jul 15 21:31:39 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Good To Have You Back!

Welcome back, Steve! On Monday, you can go back to work and get some rest. (LOL) The system went down only once during your absence as you probably know. Not being able to log-on, I was starting to have a withdrawl.

Robyn, regarding "great minds think alike", I'm not too sure about that. It's definitely a matter of PERSPECTIVE.

Message: 12446 Posted: Sat Jul 15 20:50:32 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: To Robyn

Great minds think alike!

Message: 12445 Posted: Sat Jul 15 20:32:57 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: I'm Back...

Whew. After 10 days on the road, losing a muffler, burning up a transmission, losing a spare tire on my tent trailer, spending 3 days at Disneyland and 3 days at the beach, I'm glad to be home. It took me 4 hours today to read through all of my e-mail and the messages on this chat folder but I think I'm finally caught up. It has been very interesting reading.

I received a list of a few new concerts starting in September so check out the list to see if one is in your area.

Now I have to start digging through 5 inches of snail mail. I may or may not have time to make a few more posts here tonight.

Have a nice weekend everyone!


Message: 12444 Posted: Sat Jul 15 17:18:35 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: To Robyn

Hi Robyn. I saw your messages after I posted mine. No, not yet but it'll get there in time for the concert on Saturday. Thanks for asking.

Sorry all, for the personal messages but I wanted everyone to know I posted my message not knowing that Robyn would post a similar message about "Perspective"..

Message: 12443 Posted: Sat Jul 15 17:13:08 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Wow, Beechlady! And Regarding "Perspective"

Beechlady, are you sure it wasn't the Road-kill Cafe instead of the Roadhouse, where you ate? Seriously, I'm sorry to hear about your food poisoning; it can be a very serious matter. Sounds like you're recovering quite well. That's good!

Regarding "Perspective", it's been great reading everyone's opinion. For me, it's not among my favorite America albums but as someone said the other day, I'd rather have "Perspective" with it's techno sounds rather than to have no America album at all. I view it as part of a bigger picture. It's just a small piece of the evolutionary process for Gerry and Dewey and their wonderful talent. The latest piece, as we all know, are "Hourglass" and "Human Nature". If it took "Perspective" to arrive at this point, it's all positive!

It really doesn't surprise me that Gerry and Dewey created an album like "Perspective". Like Beechlady said, it was an experimental phase (or words similar to that). I view it as a product of Gerry and Dewey's willingness to be diverse...especially Gerry. Just look what he has created: "Van Go Gan", "Houses In White", "Like A Brother", "Go Man Go", Di Farrelly's "Heaven Is Very Beautiful". These are only a few of the projects we knew about. We can only imagine what else he has created.

Message: 12442 Posted: Sat Jul 15 17:11:27 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: To Johnny

Did you send it yet? I sent my address. Did you get it. Let me know ASAP!


Message: 12441 Posted: Sat Jul 15 17:10:19 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Stuff

Glad you are back with us Beechlady. Know ALL about food poisoning. I got it on my HONEYMOON ( there was a pleasant trip, let me tell you!)

You are right about the techno stuff. Got to spread your wings and try new things or life becomes deadly dull. Those experiments led to the music they are doing now, you reach this point by the things you have done before, ya know. Anyway Philosphy 101 is over now.

Message: 12440 Posted: Sat Jul 15 15:29:37 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Stuff

Hi all.

Got food poisoning and ended up in the hospital, 7/11. Needless to say I didn't go to N.Y. (I wanted to make OpSail, also. Not a good month for me

Cancer folk are tacticious and taciturn. They aren't always meek, just emotional. I'm a student of astrology, so ask me "anything"

As for synths and electronic devices in music, hey, I think it's called GROWTH. Hopefully, everyone wants to try something different, to NOT be stuck in a rut! Not everyone agrees with your decision, but if you don't try something new-you'll stagnate in a mire of your own muck! Heck you can ALWAYS go back and do what you know (being safe) but to try something new can have it's own rewards! I for one, certainly don't *despise* the Cap stuff.

Anywhooooooo: I'm glad you synth haters probably won't go out and buy MY stuff when it hits the bins! I'd hate to hear what you'd have to say about!

TkH<------Don't eat a creamed base soup at the Roadhouse.....sigh

Message: 12439 Posted: Sat Jul 15 13:44:28 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Oops

Oops, glimpse of THE box set, and what A box set it's going to be!

Message: 12438 Posted: Sat Jul 15 13:40:29 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Ohhhh Rob....

Rob, can you divulge how you were able to get a glimpse of box set? You have me eager to get my copy. Because I live in "Redneck City", New Mexico, I'll have to order mine. The only record store in town said "Highway" will have to be ordered by me. I'm hoping the 19 year old clerk doesn't know what she's talking about. After all, when I mentioned America and "Highway", she asked, "Is 'Highway' the name of the group?"

Message: 12437 Posted: Sat Jul 15 13:25:43 2000 By: Rob
Subject: Bravo Rhino!

Get ready for a stellar box set. I got my glimpse. The inside booklet is simply outstanding. It's over 70 pages and chock full of pictures and momentos. Our very own Steve Lowry is credited (so deservingly) in the names at the end. And the "America Story" is chronicled nicely by Barry Alfonso. This is really a fitting bookend and tribute to the 30 years this band has given us. My personal feeling is that this box set is going to surprise those fans that have been away from "America" for a while. When they hear songs like "Young Moon" they're going to be wowed. I personally own about 10-15 box sets by other artists, this may just be the best one I've ever seen. I first met Dewey backstaged at the Hartford Civic Center in '77. I later interviewed him for Human Nature, and then met up with him a number of times. Gerry has always taken times to talk to my family, and once even got into a discussion about "Power Rangers", he's excellent around kids. And I've also gotten to know Dan via writing back and forth years forth. I can't help but like all these guys. I couldn't be happier to see them get such outstanding treatment in this package. Thank you Rhino -- this was clearly a major effort on your part.

Message: 12436 Posted: Sat Jul 15 12:20:17 2000 By: connie
Subject: Solano County Fair

Just wondered if anyone was able to attend the show Friday night. I REALLY wanted to see AMERICA, but couldn't. If anyone was able to go, please post your comments. I'd love to hear about it. Thank you!

Message: 12435 Posted: Sat Jul 15 10:36:24 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Nina.

Nina: No, I wasn't implying that Gerry's songs need electronic trickery. In fact, that's my point. His songs don't need them at all. But Dewey's songs really suffer with them.


By the way, I've seen three lists in the paper about upcoming releases for next week, and not one of them mentions America's box set, which is pretty unfortunate.

Message: 12434 Posted: Sat Jul 15 10:25:34 2000 By: Jessica
Subject: wonderful sight

hi everybody. as usual, i have limited time here so i'll just say what a wonderful sight the new release of America is to my tired eyes. i have yet to check out if they're released here in Toronto, but i'll be sure to get them. will be my first buy here in this city. very memorable. when i get homesick, i listen to my America CD's. sometimes, i feel even more homesick but other times, the great music just makes me feel better.

"overwhelming world......."

Hi SteveL. and the rest of the good people in this folder!


Message: 12433 Posted: Sat Jul 15 08:58:08 2000 By: kiri
Subject: re: perspective, etc

trying to get back in touch with America’s 80s albums sounds difficult. everyone here seems to be in agreement about their strength/weaknesses and yet not. for a newcomer like me, can someone put it in layman’s terms what these albums were like so when i make a big find i have some idea what aspect of america i’ll be gaining? are the big differences in who was producing them or just the sound of the times or what? sorry but i'm just taking america 101 now, so please be patient.

btw Jim R. - jamiroquai is that band’s union of the word "jam" and the name of the Native American peoples, the Iroquois

Message: 12432 Posted: Sat Jul 15 08:57:52 2000 By: Sasha_
Subject: Holiday Album

Thanks everybody for the info, I will check it out and let you know.

Message: 12431 Posted: Sat Jul 15 08:54:18 2000 By: Sasha_
Subject: Re: Holiday

Thanks for the info

Message: 12430 Posted: Sat Jul 15 06:32:12 2000 By: Nina
Subject: To Kevin S.

Hi Kevin S,

Point taken...about the electronic wizardry on PERSPECTIVE,


you weren't implying that Gerry's songs NEED "electronic trickery"???!


Message: 12429 Posted: Sat Jul 15 06:21:09 2000 By: Pat B.
Subject: Perspective

I agree with you KevinS; I thought that Perspective was the end of AMERICA too! In fact it WAS the end for me. I completely gave up on them at that time. As an early fan from the 70's, I missed the acoustic folk rock sound they seemed to had left far behind. No more Dan, no more 3-part harmonys, they just were not AMERICA anymore. Years later when I discovered the Hourglass cassette in the local record store, I bought it with the feeling of sheer desperation! I really don't even know why I bought it at all. WOW! Was it ever such an unexpected musical treat for an old time fan! yEaH! p

Message: 12428 Posted: Sat Jul 15 06:08:15 2000 By: Spurs
Subject: Capitol, Warner.

Hello eveyone,interestig subject matter.My belief is that America's strength lay in their sublime acoustic playing and magnificent backing vocals with piano solos and deft percussion.Harbour was a disappointing effort for me,but it did have a number of really top notch tunes but as an album it really did'nt cut the mustard as they say,which was a disaster for them particularly in career terms,yes it charted but on the strength of previous releases,and it was all down hill from there if we are talking sales,America Live was superb,in fact the most difficult thing Sir George Martin has ever had to do in terms of recording and I refer to his book "Making Music".Silent Letter was a true knockout,and I loved the Only Game in Town how was that not a hit? the UK's Melody Maker quite rightly gave it rave reviews but without airplay all was lost,this album also included the smashing All Night,which I hated at first but played up loud on a good system is quite wonderful,this is the last album produced by Sir George and sounds like it,lush production all over,almost one might say like classical recordings has a timeless appeal.Alibi was indeed a sensational outing and many of the songs were more than first class,but for my money this album suffered in terms of production it sounded like an eighties album and still does,maybe the importance of an outside producer cannot be under estimated,but the right one,what happened to Gary Katz?who was much trumpeted to take over the production helm on Human Nature.

Message: 12427 Posted: Fri Jul 14 23:00:38 2000 By: BC
Subject: Sythesizers/Perspective

I agree with you, Andy, the Perspective album, for my taste anyway, was WAY over produced. Too many sythesizers and drum machines. Yuck! I understand groups need to "stretch" and "experiment", but Perspective (for me) was too far away from their classic sound and what made them famous.

What drew me to America was the magic of the 1st album. Very simple, yet very complex. Acoustic guitars, tight harmonies, and a lot of jamming. I loved all the acoustic "rocking". They won "Best New Artist" Grammy after their first album. It was simply great. Homecoming and Hat Trick were pretty good acoustic albums, too, but with more "things" to get in the way of the great acoustic guitars, and the tight three part harmonies seemed to disappear a little more with every album, the songs became more of a showcase for solos with backing vocals.

Don't get me wrong. I love America. I have (almost) every album and CD. They are my favorite group. But, I would love to see them go back into the studio with just a couple of acoustic guitars and some percussion (real live drums would be okay, too) and recreate the magic of their first album.

Looking very forward to Highway. Only 4 more days. Hope it appears in every record store in the world and America gets the exposure it needs and deserves and I hope it sells 100 million copies!

Message: 12426 Posted: Fri Jul 14 20:58:22 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: Holiday

A & B Sound ( has it listed at $7.74 (US$) but as a special order (6-8 weeks)

Message: 12425 Posted: Fri Jul 14 20:57:16 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Perspective single

5th Avenue
I allways liked the album cover, w/the clouds, & that "little guy" walking on the side of the building.

Message: 12424 Posted: Fri Jul 14 20:53:01 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Ballard Songs, Kiri, "Highway" Songs

Ya, a little late, Johnny. Just got back from a week long holiday. Had a bit of reading here to do to catch up. "Jody" has always been on e of my favs. I remember when I was 'courting' my wife it was one of her favourites. So I learned it on the piano and wowed her. least in my own my mind I wowed her. Maybe she just married me so I'd stop playing the damn piano and singing to try to impress her.


Message: 12423 Posted: Fri Jul 14 20:45:05 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Ballard Songs, Kiri, "Highway" Songs

Hey John, better late than never, huh? I'm not sure who's crazier about "Jody", you or me!

Yes, welcome Kiri, rather welcome back.

I wonder, starting the 18th, if the guys will be playing any of the "new" songs from "Highway". I would hope "Mitchum Junction" makes the playlist soon . For me, the title alone conjures up images of a dusty, lonesome town on a long stretch of blacktop.

Message: 12422 Posted: Fri Jul 14 20:20:53 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Ballard songs


Message: 12421 Posted: Fri Jul 14 19:59:23 2000 By: Bones
Subject: To Johnny

Johnny, you are 100% right, I had a great time at the show.
Perspective is probably the closest thing to a disco record the guys ever made. I like it, that includes all tracks on the CD.

Message: 12420 Posted: Fri Jul 14 19:17:39 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: OpSail --To Gerry, Dewey

I second everything that you said! The atmosphere was amazing. I thought the weather was perfect. As I've said, the sound was BETTER than perfect.
I never thought that I'd ever live to see the day when America would perform something off of the HAT TRICK CD, much less WIND WAVE. I did my "WE'RE NOT WORTHY" bow after that one. Thanks guys for throwing in that almost unknown masterpiece!!!!


Message: 12419 Posted: Fri Jul 14 19:11:07 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: New London Sound

I want to stress again just how excellent the sound was at the New London show. I think that ultimately, the band does NOT have complete control of the sound. The size of the venue, the equipment, and especially the acoustics play a huge part in the overall sound.
Also, where one sits is tremendously important. In New London, I was way up front, almost dead center. That must have made a difference.
Two years ago, I saw the Moody Blues at Jones Beach. My seat was so far away, I felt like I was in a different area code. The sound was totally horrible...all muddy, as if all vocals and instruments had pillows covering them up...Very disappointing. Now fast forward to last year. I went to Lilith Fair at the same exact venue. Only this time, I had almost front row seats, almost center. The sound was fantastic!! Then, when an act did a set that that I wasn't interested in, I walked around. Sure enough, the sound quality rapidly deteriorated as I moved away from my "prime" seat up front. (I guess waiting on line for 14 1/2 hours was worth it after all!!) Again, the point is WHERE one sits can really determine the sound quality. Any thoughts?


Message: 12418 Posted: Fri Jul 14 18:56:32 2000 By: Rob
Subject: OpSail --To Gerry, Dewey

Whoever book this event in New London, send them a bottle of wine or something! OpSail in Connecticut has been billed in the local media here as the BIGGEST event in Connecticut this year. To get center stage for this is a tip of my hat to your booking agency. And by the way, you guys were as enjoyable as always. I loved "Wind Wave" and the setting on the water with nightly-decorated ships, Ft. Trumbull, and full moon on the water added quite ambiance.

Message: 12417 Posted: Fri Jul 14 16:43:24 2000 By: Nina
Subject: New London Concert

Thanks to this chat folder, I got to spend another great night listening to my favorite band!!! Before I came on-line, I NEVER got news about where America was playing until it was too late!

So...THANKS...Steve Lowry and all of you who keep me informed!

THANKS to Bones and Lisa for sharing the night with me...YES...I got home O.K.!!! (Almost 3 hr. way) Hi also to LisaRose...nice meeting you...a fellow teacher! Andy...I SAW you but didn't meet you...maybe next time!

THANKS to Bill for bringing me backstage to the COOLNESS of the band's trailer! (God...It was HOT yesterday...with VERY little shade!)

THANKS to Gerry, who greeted me warmly (although I'm sure I was an interruption, too!) and took time to sign my CD's and talk with me, although his voice was hurting. THANKS to Dewey, who was busy on the phone, but signed my CD's anyway! ( from the JACUZZI????...Gee, you guys travel in STYLE!!! HA! HA!)

It was great to see the crowd rise to their feet at the conclusion of SANDMAN, and gather at the base of the stage for SISTER GOLDEN HAIR...makes a long-time fan like myself PROUD!

Keep up the good work AMERICA! We LOVE you in New England! You might want to come back to Keene, NH though, me the trauma of those 6 hour drives!!??

Just a thought,


Message: 12416 Posted: Fri Jul 14 14:41:29 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: america revisited

Welcome back to America, Kiri! One question: Whatsa jamiroquai?

Jim R.

Message: 12415 Posted: Fri Jul 14 14:38:43 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: One more Perspective

I remember how excited I was to find "Perspective" in the stores in 1984, shortly after graduating college and beginning my newspaper career in a small southern Minnesota town. When I listened to the album, I was surprised by how hard of a time I had "getting into it." At the time, I wondered if my new job responsibilities or changing attitudes (an an adult) had something to do with the lack of listening time I gave that album. I figured I'd wait until to next album to decide.

Well, the "next" album was "America in Concert," which immediately gave me a bad feeling. Not that there was anything wrong with the album, but I remembered that "America Live" was the last album for America on Warner Bros. I had the feeling that Capitol was closing out the America deal. Obviously, based on the ensuing years of no new material, I found out I was right.

Was "Perspective" really that bad? I've listened to bad albums before, the kind that simply have no sound quality and no interesting characteristics. This album doesn't fit that description. And while it is my least favorite America album (again, mainly because of the synthesized sound), I *can* listen to it nowadays.

But I hated the cover. I really hated the cover.

Jim R.

Message: 12414 Posted: Fri Jul 14 14:32:40 2000 By: kiri
Subject: america revisited

hey - i’m new, coming as a born-again america fan. had “history/greatest” on cassette since junior high until i wore it out but finally saw them live and have started buying whatever i can find - just got a perfect copy of “homecoming” on vinyl. plan to see them in springfield, mo at end of july. been a high school english teacher for the last 6 years and have burnt out (thus the no concern for capital letters) and now going into graphic design. some of my favorite bands listed below (besides america, of course). what an incredibly kind and well-informed group of fans you are! just wanting to belong; hope to get to know you...

no specific order here - replacements, doors, beatles, police, violent femmes, ramones, stevie wonder, eagles, billy joel, early REM, early U2, depeche mode, new order, jimi hendrix, james taylor, steely dan, van morrison, ccr, clash, smiths, jamiroquai, paul simon, supertramp, dead milkmen, genesis, jackson browne, peter gabriel, tom petty, soul 2 soul, stone roses, redd kross, queen, live, school of fish, david bowie, chicago, thrill kill kult, styx, elton john, stp, nine inch nails, bush, beck, brand new heavies, prince, pil, they might be giants, pixies, and thanks to my dad - the beach boys, and tommy james and the shondells

Message: 12413 Posted: Fri Jul 14 14:25:10 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Peace/Perspective.

I think both Peace albums are great, but I like the second, PEACE, better. It's not just because Dan's such a big part of it, because that would be a discredit to Marvin and Gentry. They're awesome. For me, it's that it captures that early America sound that I thought was lost and gone forever. If you like the first three America albums, there is absolutely no way you can't like PEACE. It features my favorite Dan Peek song ever, Call On Me. And just when you might think that Dan's pulling the load, you realize the Marvin and Gentry-penned songs are just as awesome. It's the considerable talents of three guys coming together to create something magical. Just like America was.

As far as Perspective goes, the only song I would have released as a single would have been "Falling Off The World." But even then it was so overproduced, that it's not on the same level as other rocking Dewey masterpieces like Even The Score and Green Monkey and Hell's On Fire.

What I mainly didn't like about Perspective is it pointed out how Dewey's style and Gerry's style weren't meshing at the time. Gerry was into electronic trickery and Dewey's songs don't need them. I was worried, in fact, that that was going to be the end of America.


Message: 12412 Posted: Fri Jul 14 14:15:07 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: PEACE

Well, Pat, I too like the group Peace, though I've only heard the self-titled second album. I simply love the song "Ocean Rolls," which I think has a great America feel. Gentry and Marvin's vocals (I'm not sure which) remind me of Gerry's. Dan's stuff was very good. I think the only reason I've avoided "Stronger Than You Know" is because Dan was considered more loosely as a contributor on that album and not a "member" of Peace, for what that's worth. It looks like I'll eventually have to add it to my collection, based on your comments.

Say Tom (Peek), any word on whether Dan, Brian, and Ken plan on getting back together for a third album?

Jim R.

Message: 12411 Posted: Fri Jul 14 14:06:36 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: It's All A Matter Of "Perspective"

I'll go with Mark's Perspective. "5th Avenue" and "We Got All Night." But in all honestly, I don't think either song would have fared much better on the charts than "...Lullabye" or "Special Girl." I like all four songs, but none of them sounded like classic America hits. (I actually like the songs of "Perspective" better than "Your Move" on a whole, but the electronic sound of the later album bothered me. It took me too long to warm up to Perspective, which is not a good thing for an America fan to have to say about an America album.)

Jim R.

Message: 12410 Posted: Fri Jul 14 12:19:42 2000 By: dofd
Subject: Hop on the van

Was leaving a Mexican restaurant on the Sacramento River last night when I saw the van for "The Eagle," the area's top classic rock station. The back panel was painted as the cover for America's debut album, which kind of made my day (OK, the margaritas helped).

Anyone else going to the Solano County Fair to see 'em tonight?

Message: 12409 Posted: Fri Jul 14 12:13:25 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: PEACE

I really like both the Peace CDs also, but my favorite is PEACE. It has 8 Dan Peek songs so it's almost like another Dan CD. His songs are really strong plus the Marvin and Gentry contributions are also very good.

Message: 12408 Posted: Fri Jul 14 11:49:53 2000 By: gary
Subject: Re: New London concert

That's very interesting Andy. You didn't happen to give that one fingered salute to a N.Y. cop did you??? The reason I am asking this is based on the following:


1. I can't reach my license unless you hold my beer. (OK in Texas)

2. Sorry, Officer, I didn't realize my radar detector wasn't plugged in.

3. Aren't you the guy from the Village People?

4. Hey, you must've been doing' about 125 mph to keep up with me.
Good job!

5. Are You Andy or Barney?

6. I thought you had to be in relatively good physical condition
to be a police officer.

7. You're not gonna check the trunk, are you?

8. I pay your salary you know!

9. Gee, Officer! That's terrific. The last officer only gave
me a warning,too!

10. Do you know why you pulled me over? Okay, just so one of us does.

11. I was trying to keep up with traffic. Yes, I know there were no other cars around me. That's how far ahead of me they were.

12. When the Officer says "Gee Son....Your eyes look red, have you been drinking?", you probably shouldn't respond with,
"Gee Officer your eyes look glazed, have you been eating doughnuts?"

13. No officer, I always wave at people with my middle finger extended!


Message: 12407 Posted: Fri Jul 14 11:11:43 2000 By: Pat B.
Subject: PEACE

Hi Everyone; I recently purchased the 2 CDs by the band PEACE (with Dan). I found both CDs to be very enjoyable, especially STRONGER THAN YOU KNOW (it refuses to leave my CD player!). I would highly recommend them to anyone who is a fan of AMERICA's style of music. I would like to hear of other's opinions.

p.s. can't wait for the upcoming August 25th concert in Wallingford CT (unfortunately was unable to attend the New London show). p

Message: 12406 Posted: Fri Jul 14 11:07:08 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: New London concert

No Robyn, I didn't drive to the show like an Angelino. I drove like a New Yorker. You know why we New Yorkers buy cars with sunroofs? Yup, the one finger salute works better pointing straight up. LOL! :)


Message: 12405 Posted: Fri Jul 14 11:01:20 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Perspective single

Not to sound nasty, but Perspective is the one CD that I can't say anything good about. I'm hard pressed to think of anything redeeming about that effort. Perhaps IT'S LIKE YOU NEVER LEFT AT ALL is the least of all may have some potential if it would be redone without those $@$#%$% synthesizers and those $%&@?! drum machines. Sorry to be so negative, but a group that has given us SGT DARKNESS, PAGES, HAT TRICK ought held to a higher standard, at least in my eyes.
Again, I repeat that I love every other AMERICA CD, including all other Capitol releases...YOUR MOVE included.


Message: 12404 Posted: Fri Jul 14 10:44:28 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Perspective single

"Can't Fall Asleep To A Lullaby" with "Lady WIth A Bluebird" as the B-side. Then "We Got All Night" with "Stereo" on the flip. As the third single, "5th Avenue" with "See How The Love Goes".


Message: 12403 Posted: Fri Jul 14 09:36:09 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Palmdale Show

Here is the info foom the Paldale Department of Rec and Parks:

Admission is FREE. Bring your short-back lawn chairs, blankets and
a picnic dinner. Alcoholic beverages are prohibited. Eduardo's Italian
Restaurant and other food vendors will be on-site.
Call the Palmdale parks and recreation office at
661/267-5611 for additional information.>

I am really up for this event (being so close to home and all) Shoud be great. There is a classic car rally during the day and the concert at night --"Classic cars and classic music." Nice to know someone in the Palmdale Department of Rec and Parks is a fan.

Message: 12402 Posted: Fri Jul 14 09:26:42 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: It's All A Matter Of "Perspective"

I have to agree with Shayne that "Can't Fall Asleep to a lullabye" would have been a hit.(IMHO)

Message: 12401 Posted: Fri Jul 14 09:10:39 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: It's All A Matter Of "Perspective"

My favorite song from "Perspective" is "Stereo". I love the way Gerry (and Jimmy Webb) equates life and love to elements of a stereo. It's very clever!

Since we're talking about a song that probably had the best chance of making the charts, my choice would be "We Got All Night". I think it fits that time period very well. I find it strange that it was placed as the first song on side 1 but was never released as a single.

What's even more strange is hearing Meat Loaf sing "Special Girl" after hearing Gerry sing it. I think of Gerry and Mr. Loaf as being on opposite ends of the spectrum.

Message: 12400 Posted: Fri Jul 14 08:47:19 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: New London concert

Thanks for the posts guys, I knew you would all have a great time! Andy, glad you made it in time! Did you take my driving advice ( foot to the floor, hand out the window-- like a typical Angeleno?lol)

Looking forward to seeing the pictures. Hope they can be posted here (?)

Looking forward to next Saturday in Palmdale CA ANyone else going???? e-mail me.

Message: 12399 Posted: Fri Jul 14 08:10:28 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: New London concert

What can I say that hasn't been said already. It was the best America concert I ever saw. The sound, the atmosphere, etc. couldn't be beat. It was great to meet the nice dedicated fans from this board-Bones, Nina, Lisa and to see Andy again. Gerry was a sweetheart as usual and took time before the show to chat a few minutes and sign my America T-shirt (LOVE THE COLOR) and the Go Man Go t-shirt for my friend because I am not crazy about that color of brown--it just isn't my color. I wish I got it in White and Green --that is really cool--Gerry was wearing that one during the concert. Keep up the good work guys--hopefully will see you again soon!!!

Message: 12398 Posted: Fri Jul 14 06:59:04 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: It's All A Matter Of "Perspective"

I'm not a fan of the PERSPECTIVE album at all. I find it very difficult to pick out ONE single, much less two. I like FIFTH AVENUE, but as a single, I think it's a little weak. CANT FALL ASLEEP TO A LULLABY(E) would probably be my first choice if it were promoted to include the Steve Perry connection (no offence to the guys, but Steve Perry was real big then). Then perhaps SPECIAL GIRL or IT'S LIKE YOU NEVER LEFT AT ALL.


Message: 12397 Posted: Fri Jul 14 05:42:57 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: It's All A Matter Of "Perspective"

If I were to select singles from Perspective I would have lead off with 5th Avenue and then followed it up with We Got All Night (not because I particularly like that song, but I do feel it would have had commercial potential).

Message: 12396 Posted: Thu Jul 13 22:39:46 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: New London concert

I just arrived back to my home on Long Island, New York from the New London show.
I don't have too much to add to Bones' post but I will say that this was a truely awesome show that more than made up for the 10 seconds that America was alloted last Saturday in Westbury, NY.
The Sound system was fantastic. Not too loud, and the low notes didn't overpower and muddy everything. This proves that outdoor shows can sound great if done properly.
Also, maybe it's my imagination, but the guitar sound seems brighter since the boys switched from Ovation to (mostly) Taylor guitars. I loved it!!
It was such a huge treat to hear WIND WAVE live. It was the second song that I learned to play on guitar.
I briefly talked with Gerry before the show. I feel a little guilty because I may have interrupted him doing his warm-up excercises for his vocals. I managed to have him sign my Van Go Gan CD, and I even told him that I play his SUBMARINE LADIES when I go to some of my local open mics in my area. Despite the fact that I must have been an annoying pest, Gerry was most gracious and patient. Thanks Gerry, you definitely made this fan's night!!
It was also a pleasure to meet some of the other America fans on this board. Lisa from Rhode Island and Lisa from New York are both great fans and America is lucky to have them in its fan base. I'm going to go to the August 12 Mass. show. Who else is going? Did someone say R-O-A-D-T-R-I-P????????? lol!!


Message: 12395 Posted: Thu Jul 13 21:25:04 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: New London Concert

Bones, I get a feeling you had a nice time! (LOL)

Message: 12394 Posted: Thu Jul 13 21:07:04 2000 By: Bones
Subject: Re: New London concert

What a show, What a show, WHAT A SHOW!!!!!!! and what a great place for a show. As Gerry mentioned, the sun was setting, the orange sky filled with white clouds, Fort Trumbull all lite up, the tall ships docked with thousands of lights on and the moon shinning above the ocean (what a Kodak moment). I didn't count every person there (didn't have time, sorry) but there was a fairly large crowd on hand. Opened the show with Riverside and I think you know the rest of the play list. Windwave and Hangover sounded great along with Don't cross the river and Never be lonely. Any time I can here Gerry play his 12 string guitar, I love it! Sandman brought the crowd to it's feet (it really rocked tonight) and SGH blew everyone away. It was nice seeing you (Nina) again and meeting Lisa and Lisa Rose. Andy, glad you made it in time for the start of the show. Time to start counting down the days for the next east coast appearance.
It still amazes me that after listening to the guys all these years and listening to all the records and CDs thousands and thousands of times, it's still enjoyable to listen to the band play for 90 minutes or so and leave the show wanting more. Thanks guys!!!!

Message: 12393 Posted: Thu Jul 13 20:31:57 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: It's All A Matter Of "Perspective"

As you probably know, Capitol Records released two singles from "Perspective": "Special Girl" (flip-side "Unconditional Love") and "Can't Fall Asleep To A Lullaby" (flip-side "Fallin' Off The World").

If YOU were the Capitol Records executive who had the say about which single to release from "Perspective" (with big hopes of hitting the top of the charts) which song would you have released? Would it be one of the songs they actually did release (thinking the listening public just didn't know a hit song) or one of the other seven?

I'll have to give "Perspective" a whirl and I'll be back with my choice. I hope we get a good response because I think this should be very interesting.

Message: 12392 Posted: Thu Jul 13 19:58:04 2000 By: daisyjane64
Subject: New London concert

It was a great show even though it started about a half hour late.I really enjoyed meeting Nina,Bob,Lisa Rose and Andy.Let's try and meet up again next month in Fall River.I took pictures and will have them developed asap.Anyone interested in copies can e-mail me.

Message: 12391 Posted: Thu Jul 13 12:03:36 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Last nite's chat

Brief but nice. Thanks to all who came in. HAVE FUN THIS EVENING IN NEW LONDON!!!!

Message: 12390 Posted: Thu Jul 13 09:30:29 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Turkey again

I hope I didn't misunderstand your posting. If you want to know how many hits America had in Turkey, I couldn't say.


Message: 12389 Posted: Thu Jul 13 09:27:28 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Turkey

Gee Suat. It's hard to say how big America is in Turkey. I don't know if America ever toured in Turkey or not, although if they've toured everywhere from Ecuador and China to South Africa and Italy, they've probably come by at some point. The only countries I can be sure of they haven't visited yet are Cuba and Iran. I'm sire Dewey and Gerry would want to think twice about touring in a country where the chant "Death to America" is fairly commonplace.

If Turkey has good musical taste (and I've heard your music -- I know you do), there have to be some fans out there somewhere!!

The America albums you should collect first are their studio albums:
America, Homecoming, Hat Trick, Holiday, Hearts, History, Hideaway, Harbor, Silent Letter, Alibi, View From The Ground, Your Move, Perspective, Encore, Hourglass, and Human Nature. All of them can be found on websites ranging from to


Message: 12388 Posted: Thu Jul 13 08:02:31 2000 By: SUAT
Subject: AMERICA




Message: 12387 Posted: Thu Jul 13 08:02:18 2000 By: SUAT
Subject: AMERICA




Message: 12386 Posted: Wed Jul 12 21:52:18 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Bake Sale.

Here is a simple recepie for the instrumentation on any future CDs:

1.) Review the instruments played on the 1st Album

2.) Play ONLY those instruments used on the first album

3.) If there are any questions, repeat step 2.

4.) With all other questions/issues, see step 2.

There. How's that? :)


p.s. Let's mute the Energizer bunny !!

Message: 12385 Posted: Wed Jul 12 20:18:51 2000 By: GerryK
Subject: Johnny, Diana Ross

Judging by the recent ticket sales, maybe Diana and the sorta-Supremes should have added "Your Move" to the playlist.....

Message: 12384 Posted: Wed Jul 12 20:05:44 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Bake Sale.

i'm with you Kevin. I bake a mean "tannie" Like Brownies but different. when's the sale?

Message: 12383 Posted: Wed Jul 12 19:17:18 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Bake Sale.

I think the first four Capitol albums were great. Even without Dan. Epecially Alibi. As huge of a fan as I am of Dan Peek and the irreplaceable role he played in America, I cannot think of how Alibi could have been any better. I guess what I miss is that View From The Ground was the last America album to feature Willie Leacox. I don't know if anybody realizes it, but he's a great drummer.

If we have to have a bake sale, a car wash or sell plasma so America can afford a drummer on their next album, I'm willing to head the effort.


Message: 12382 Posted: Wed Jul 12 18:57:29 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Tomorrow's show

Hi all:
I will be going to tomorrow's New London show. Let's all meet up. I'll be the ugly guy up front that can't sing his way out of a wet paper bag. LOL


Message: 12381 Posted: Wed Jul 12 16:06:48 2000 By: daisyjane64
Subject: Re: Tomorrow's show

Lisa i am going to the New London show also.My name is Lisa too.Let me know where we could all meet Thanks.

Message: 12380 Posted: Wed Jul 12 12:19:13 2000 By: kitschy
Subject: Erin? July?

Any word on the date in July?
Email me at

Message: 12379 Posted: Wed Jul 12 11:57:55 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Tomorrow's show

I put this on again cause I think it came up the wrong category. I am actually going to go to the New London show tomorrow. Can't get enough of these guys and my friend Sandy who is also a huge fan insisted that we go. She has seen them many times over the years but not recently and is so excited that she offered to pay for everything but I heard it is free (LOL). Who is definetely going? Maybe we can all meet up?

Message: 12378 Posted: Wed Jul 12 11:56:39 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Dan Peek also carries All Things Are Possible and Doer of the Word.

Both and carry Christian Hits Of The 80's vol 1&2. Volume 1 includes Dan's song All Things Are Possible and volume 2 includes Doer of the Word.

Message: 12377 Posted: Wed Jul 12 11:53:08 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: off subject : more from Mary

I am actually going to go to the New London show tomorrow. Can't get enough of these guys and my friend Sandy who is also a huge fan insisted that we go. She has seen them many times over the years but not recently and is so excited that she offered to pay for everything but I heard it is free (LOL). Who is definetely going? Maybe we can all meet up?

Message: 12376 Posted: Wed Jul 12 11:45:20 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Dan Peek

To whom it may concern, carries Dan Peek CDs including All Things Are Possible, Doer of the Word, Bodden Town, and On Wings of Eagles.

Message: 12375 Posted: Wed Jul 12 11:02:46 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: off subject : more from Mary

Gonna be at the Thursday show, Leaky?

Hallenbeck's is a happening little place in the No Ho District of the Valley--sort of the Arts Enclave of the Valley.

Message: 12374 Posted: Wed Jul 12 09:58:35 2000 By: Pete
Subject: Re: America Fans

Thanks Mark, I'll be looking for it.

Message: 12373 Posted: Wed Jul 12 09:50:37 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: America Fans

The release date for the Highway box set is 18 July. Less than a week away!

Message: 12372 Posted: Wed Jul 12 09:41:26 2000 By: Pete
Subject: America Fans

America new CD Highway 30 years. When are they going to be out in the stores. Does anyone know any date and are they going to sold all through the good old US or should I say America. Thank-you

Message: 12371 Posted: Wed Jul 12 09:02:03 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Holiday Album????

CDnow ( is currently listing the "Holiday" album on sale for $14.99. This is the imported German version that includes lyrics (though not always accurately transcribed) and liner notes. I'm sure Amazon ( also stocks the "Holiday" album. Barnes & Noble has no current listing for it.

Here's the URL for CDnow's America albums:

Jim R.

Message: 12370 Posted: Wed Jul 12 08:48:29 2000 By: Joe B
Subject: Wait

P.P.P.P.S. Live drums!!!!!!!!!!!!

Message: 12369 Posted: Wed Jul 12 08:47:12 2000 By: Joe B
Subject: Capitol, etc.

Hey You People,

While a lot of singer/songwriter/harmony/mostly acoustic type bands had trouble in the late 70's/80's, I maintain that the biggest mistake Capitol made was releasing "Only Game In Town" as a single. Not only was it not a Gerry/Dewey song, but not a very good one. It killed any possible momentum with a new album/label. "Alibi" remains my favorite of the Capitol years thanks to "Survival", "Catch That Train" "One In A Million", "Coastline", "Valentine", etc. But each album had some great songs: "One Morning", "And Forever", from "Silent Letter"; "Inspector Mills", "Love On The Vine", "Jody" (yes, Ballard did write a few great songs) from "View"; "Someday Woman" and the title track from "Your Move"; and the amazing Gerry/Jimmy Webb collaboration "Stereo" from "Perspective". Ah, the miracle of being able to program CD's for just the songs you want in the order you want 'em.

Joe B

P.S. My main complaint about "Your Move" is that all the rhythm tracks (especially drums) sound almost exactly alike. Ballard is an extremely talented gut, but his drumming was pretty rudimentary.

P.P.S. With GMG, BLW, Highway, and a new Jeff Larson all out this summer/fall, why am I still yearning for a new America CD? Never happy, I swear!!!!!

P.P.P.S. When the guys do get to releasing a new CD, I'd love to see some more Bunnell/Haimer/Mumy collaborations. Those are some of the strongest 80's/90's tunes the guys did.

Message: 12368 Posted: Wed Jul 12 08:39:06 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: GerryK, Regarding Diana Ross

Gerry, you're close about Diana Ross' song. Hers is actually "It's My Turn".

Whether "It's My Turn" or "Your Move", what's the difference, right?
:0 )

Message: 12367 Posted: Wed Jul 12 08:08:55 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Capitol years

While I like all their albums to some degree, in general I think most of their capitol material was a notch below their WB stuff. Not surprising since they lost Dan. When Silent Letter first came out I was very disappointed by it. To me it sounded like they were trying too hard, but it has grown on me over the years. I thought Alibi and View From The Ground were back up to their excellent standards and stack up well with their WB material. On those two albums I thought they struck the right mix of their own material and outside songs. Your Move was a disappointment and I agree that I think Capitol though "if a little Russ Ballard is a good thing, then a lot of Russ will be great!" Wrong! While I don't dislike the album, there is just not enough Gerry and Dewey on it. While Russ is a very good pop songwriter, and I do like some of his songs very much, Gerry and Dewey's stuff is "deeper" if you will. I can't help but wonder if they had stuck to the formula developed with Alibi and View and used only 3 or 4 of Russ' best songs (say The Border, She's A Runaway, Tonight Is For Dreamers, and maybe My Kinda Woman) then have Gerry and Dewey contribute the other 7 or 8 songs, how much better would the album have been?!? After the sales decline with Your Move, I think panic set in on the Capitol "team" which lead to Perspective, an act of desperation. While there are a few songs I really like on Perspective (Stereo and Cinderella are really good), overall I think it is their weakest album. Gerry's does ok with the technopop stuff, but it seems to really clash with Dewey's style. I'm just glad that they finally had a chance to redeem themselves with Hourglass and Human Nature.

Message: 12366 Posted: Wed Jul 12 07:55:13 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: off subject : more from Mary

Someday someone will kill me for these updates...but I cant get enough of this girls music.....check her out if you like....sorry Bill:

Hi Everyone,

More great news.
I am proud to announce that amazingly, I won the Troubadour Competition at
the Telluride Bluegrass Festival in Colorado. I was so amazed and happy as I
had vowed this was my last competition. I heard some of the most beautiful
voices and songs from the other incredible competitors, the talent was
For the competition I had to first perform 2 songs (I chose "Would You Could
You" and "A Room Up For Rent") and then as a top 5 finalist the next day, 2
more songs ("Crashin' Down" and "All My Doubts Return").

What did I win? Well, only an unbelievable, completely hand made $10,000
Shanti guitar (only about 6 a year are made with a waiting list of 4.5 to 6
Oh,..... and also I opened for Natalie Merchant, Mary Chapin Carpenter and
Bruce Hornsby Sunday night in front of 10,000 people!!!!
(Thank you Kent for knowing I could do it.)
That was so fun! The contest was excruciatingly stressful but that part was
an absolute blast. Sold lots of CD's too and had a little radio interview.
Telluride has got to be the most beautiful place away from the ocean that I
have ever seen.

So things are humming along. Putting together an awesome industry team now
too. I am just so thankful for the support people have given and are still
giving to me.

Upcoming Shows:
Last minute fill-in for the Songwriter Round-Up
Thursday, July 13th 7:30pm
Hallenbecks 5510 N. Cahuenga- North Hollywood, CA (north of the 134 between
Chandler and Burbank) 818-985-5916
In the Round with Laura Coyle, John Andrew Parks, John Silver, Paul Neilson an
d Wendy Conrad and then featured recording artist, Ann McCue.
It's always a great songwriting community event and I love Hallenbecks'

Saturday, July 29th-Sunday the 30th
Sierra Songwriters Festival- Sonora, CA 209-588-1023
I will be performing on Saturday and conducting a workshop on Sunday.
This is just the greatest little festival celebrating a variety of musical
genres where all feel included. The music and the people feed the soul.

(Sorry to some of you about canceling at the High Sierra Music Fest, couldn't
be avoided but I hope to catch you Northern Californians at SSF)

Love and Peace,

Mary Coppin :)

Message: 12365 Posted: Wed Jul 12 07:52:05 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Holiday Album????

Try or I think they carry it.

Message: 12364 Posted: Tue Jul 11 22:02:11 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Your Move

YOUR MOVE is fantastic, would have been a great single. I think I have seen GERRY & AMERICA perform it live twice. An outstanding song. An outstanding super group is AMERICA.

Message: 12363 Posted: Tue Jul 11 21:37:34 2000 By: GerryK
Subject: Holiday

I've got a Japanese import of Holiday ... picked it up at either Camelot or Tower a number of years ago ....

Message: 12362 Posted: Tue Jul 11 21:31:45 2000 By: GerryK
Subject: Your Move

I saw the guys at Irvine Meadows in '83 just after the release of "Your Move" ... they performed The Border and the title track .. I was sure at the time that Your Move would be the next single ... ah, but what do I know ..... didn't Diana Ross record the song, too??

Message: 12361 Posted: Tue Jul 11 20:29:03 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Favorite Ballard-Written America Songs

1- The Border
2- Jody
3- I Don't believe In Miracles
But "I Do believe In You" oops! this song not written by Beckley, Bunnell, OR Ballard.

Message: 12360 Posted: Tue Jul 11 20:23:15 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Re: Capitol years

For anyone who really enjoys the Capitol albums like I do, I suggest a quick trip to, since Thoughtscape Sounds is long gone. Magic is the French company which originally released Alibi, Your Move, and Perspective back in 1997. Last year, they reissued all five studio albums on HDCD, and they sound absolutely fabulous! They come in similar packaging to the Human Nature CD, which means they're somewhat fragile. Act now!


Message: 12359 Posted: Tue Jul 11 20:10:05 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Capitol years

The Capitol years only served to further my love of AMERICA's music. Melodic, lyrically satisfying, always soothing. And please don't forget STEREO from the PERSPECTIVE LP.

Message: 12358 Posted: Tue Jul 11 19:15:57 2000 By: Spurs
Subject: The right to be heard.

Hello everyone,interesting to note that the top grossing concerts around at the moment are Tina Turner,Bruce Springsteen,and quite amazingly CSN&Y.This is quite extraordinary when many radio stations flatly refuse to promote many established bands,take for example UK's Radio One which has a policy of playing only recent groups,even dear old Elton John's new single has felt the brunt of this BBC stance.Yet as the afore mentioned artists are being showered with substantial amounts of cash surely this presents a case for many veteran acts to be heard,especially new material from these people,one only has to look at the sales of seventies artists,furthermore I'm not against new music or bands,but I wish for the chance to hear everything,and now I draw your attention to GOMEZ a group from Manchester in the UK relatively new to the music industry,plenty of acoustic guitars abound in their noodlings,not so far away from some other group I know.

Message: 12357 Posted: Tue Jul 11 19:00:18 2000 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: Re: Favorite Ballard-Written America Songs

I think "Silent Letter" was a victim of the times. When it came out (1979) disco was all over the place and anything else had a tough time getting on Pop/Top 40 radio. And as far as Capitol was concerned, if you weren't Bob Seger or The Knack, you weren't worth the effort. America was pitifully unpromoted by Capitol. Perhaps if Silent Letter had come out a few years later...and on a different label...things would have been different. Just my opinion.

Message: 12356 Posted: Tue Jul 11 18:05:48 2000 By: John Corbett

Has our dynamic duo given up on their website? Except for a brief blurb about Gerry's new Heart Times website, I don't think the site's been updated since last summer. There isn't even a mention about their box set!


Message: 12355 Posted: Tue Jul 11 17:58:22 2000 By: Sasha_
Subject: Holiday Album????

I've been desperately trying for years to find if there is a CD of the best ever of the albums...Holiday... I own the album but would like a CD so can listen in my car. I've played the album so much it is just about worn out. there not one?

Message: 12354 Posted: Tue Jul 11 17:34:34 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Capitol years

Even though America performed a lot of outside material during their Capitol years, I don't think it takes that much away from their music. After all, Dewey and Gerry never said they didn't like most of what they'd performed, only that they wish they had written more material. I know there are a lot of people who somehow think that Perspective is the ultimate un-America album, but Dewey himself said that Gerry was very much into the technology that was around in the mid-'80s. Dewey himself admitted that he found it fascinating and liked the material, although he says it was more of a phase than some conversion to electronic pop artist. Dewey and Gerry were, after all, executive producers of Perspective, which means they had more control over the content of that album than Your Move. I think Perspective was more of an experimental album than some gimmick forced upon them.


By the way, how about listing your favorite self-penned Capitol-era tracks next to your favorite outside material. Let's see how it stacks up... Here's my list:


1. Survival
2. Can't Fall Asleep To A Lullaby
3. Inspector Mills
4. 5th Avenue
5. And Forever
6. Love On The Vine
7. All My Life
8. Lady With A Bluebird
9. One In A Million
10. Catch That Train

1. You Can Do Magic
2. The Border
3. Right Before Your Eyes
4. Only Game In Town
5. We Got All Night
6. My Kinda Woman
7. Don't Let Me Be Lonely
8. Special Girl
9. You Could've Been The One
10. She's A Runaway

Message: 12353 Posted: Tue Jul 11 17:30:42 2000 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Wednesday Night Chat

I'll try but I've got a meeting, if not we'll try in a couple weeks when I get back from suuny Florida. DanC.

Message: 12352 Posted: Tue Jul 11 16:55:04 2000 By: dofd
Subject: russ ballard, etc.

Few of us would argue that, as a whole, America's releases of the '80s stand up to its earlier work. But for me, the bottom line is that America continued to produce albums (not as often as I would have liked, naturally) and tour through the decade. Meanwhile, many of my other favorite groups, such as the Eagles and Doobie Brothers, broke up, retired, etc. only to reunite briefly in the 90s.

I'd rather hear America sing someone else's songs than not hear its music at all, and I hope Gerry and Dewey keep recording for a long time to come. Who knows? Maybe acoustic folk rock will be all the rage again in five years. I just hope enough of us are buying their albums to ensure a record company's interest in America's work.

Message: 12351 Posted: Tue Jul 11 16:00:34 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Wednesday Night Chat

Will take place as usual. 7 p.m. Pacific time ( if anyone wants to start without me, PLEASE DO!)

See you there.

Message: 12350 Posted: Tue Jul 11 15:10:25 2000 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Favorite Ballard-Written America Songs

My three are:
1. I Don't Believe In Miracles
2. Jody
3. The Border

And Shayne, I can appriciate your passion for Your Move and the memories that record brings back. You can relate then how I feel for Hearts being that that record brings back a flood of great memories for me from the 70s. And Kevin, I share your feelings for Capitol. Thats the company that screwed with another of my favorite bands, The Beach Boys. Where they really blew it with America, though, was with Silent Letter. DanC.

Message: 12349 Posted: Tue Jul 11 15:07:29 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Your Move.


Just bought the Nicolette Larson retrospective ( also a Rhino release, BTW). In the narrative, someone makes the point that during the early 80's the advent of technopop acts like Prince and the huge success of that musical genre effectively killed the folk/guitar driven sound of bands like Ms Larson ( and America). They have a valid point there and the resulting "Your Move" and "Perspective" were probably greed driven misic executives trying to make a profit from the "new sound" rather than any single musician forcing his will upon Dewey and Gerry.

Just my opinion, there.

Message: 12348 Posted: Tue Jul 11 15:04:59 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Dewey, Gerry, and Russ

<<One of the reasons why America didn't record another record again for the rest of the '80s was because Dewey and Gerry did not want to give up their artistic control the next time around. They may not voice it publicly, but they have hinted strongly that they were very dissatisfied with the amount of outside material they wound up recording.>>

Good for them, if true, John. That's why I will swear by my admiration for "Hourglass" and "Human Nature," regardless of how few people bought those albums. I'm not sure we'll ever understand the mass market, and how new act after new act hits the big time and how time-honored veterans such as America, Billy Joel and even Paul McCartney fall out of favor after so much success. But I admire songwriters who can tell a story, elicit a deeper emotion, carry a decent tune, and then (on top of it all) sing and perform their pieces.

If Dewey did pull punches on Capitol's role in the 1980s album content issue, then it only shows how much of a gentleman he is. I hope he and Gerry (and Dan, for that matter) realize that it matters to us who writes the songs.

Jim R.

Jim R.

Message: 12347 Posted: Tue Jul 11 14:54:37 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Your Move.

<<Once "You Can Do Magic" was a hit, I'm sure the record weasles got horny for more. >>

LOL. I'm still laughing at that line as I'm typing this, Kevin.

Johnny, thanks for citing the exact excerpt from the John Corbett piece. That's what I was referring to earlier. I get the impression that burn-out, or perhaps fear of not succeeding, overcame our guys in the 1980s. But naturally, I feel Dewey and Gerry were wrong in this regard. There was nothing wrong with their talents, instrumentally, vocally, or songwriting-wise. Capitol certainly didn't boost the band's confidence, but I have to wonder: Did Capitol issue any ultimatums about album sales? It's too easy for me to blame it all on Capitol, as the big faceless corporation. Reality is probably somewhere in the middle.

For the record, I don't hate "Your Move." Generically, it is a good album to listen to. But it doesn't sound like America. Had the Russ Ballard contributions from that album been spread out over three albums, I doubt I would have objected at all. But I have always identified more closely with the singer-songwriter artists than the more generic "recording" artist. That's why such "sensations" as Britney Spears or the latest pretty face with an interesting voice (and no songwriting credits) seldom cut it for me. I prefer artists like Melissa Ethridge, who isn't trying to tell me someone else's story, but her own. America has a point of view. Gerry , Dewey, and certainly Dan represent more to us than generic performers or vocal talent. I felt too much of America was missing from "Your Move." Though I agree, the guys do have vocal talent.

Jim R.

Message: 12346 Posted: Tue Jul 11 14:42:54 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Dewey, Gerry, and Russ

I agree with Johnny that Dewey's comments are a bit cryptic on what he really thought about the outside material at Capitol. Dewey tends to understate a lot of things, and tends to be polite and generous about virtually everybody and everything. Perhaps at the time he felt like a hit song was important to keep the band alive commercially. Nowadays, especially having survived without a record deal for the majority of the past 15 years (which few bands overcome), perhaps a hit single isn't seen as critical as it once was. So Dewey is probably less likely to compromise on songwriting now then when he was still trying to be a commercially successful artist. Still, you can tell that he pulled more than a few punches at Capitol. "You Can Do Magic" was fun because it was the first hit in a while, but he regarded Your Move as "bittersweet" because of his limited input. He seemed especially displeased with some of the outside material on Perspective, especially "Special Girl". He says he voiced his concerns to the Capitol execs, but according to him, they were "sure" it would be a hit. One of the reasons why America didn't record another record again for the rest of the '80s was because Dewey and Gerry did not want to give up their artistic control the next time around. They may not voice it publicly, but they have hinted strongly that they were very dissatisfied with the amount of outside material they wound up recording.


Message: 12345 Posted: Tue Jul 11 14:39:18 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: I Forgot To Mention...

With all those songs that Gerry has written and has in "storage", it's hard to believe he and Dewey ran dry. Does it mean the 200+ songs that Gerry still has, were written after "Perspective"? More unanswered questions...(sigh).

Message: 12344 Posted: Tue Jul 11 14:27:03 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: More Ballard Talk From a Non-Chic Moon Baby

Robyn, "chic", that was excellent!

Kevin, I'm with ya regarding Ballard. He's written some wonderful songs for Gerry and Dewey. As a matter-of fact, if I didn't know better, I would've thought they were written by Gerry and Dewey, themselves. Good point about "Your Move" with Ballard verses "Perspective" without him.

I like what you said, Shayne..."I guess it never concerned me who wrote the songs, just who sang them."

Message: 12343 Posted: Tue Jul 11 14:11:53 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Moon Child.

Bare, desolate, windswept, offering little hope or encouraging, depressing. You guys just saved me a ton on therapy.

Again, I may be in the minority, but I don't view Russ Ballard negatively at all. Without him, America would have been 0-for-the-80s. I would have much rather had his total involvement on Your Move than his non-involvement on Perspective.

I just find it hard to believe, though, that being the kind of musicians Gerry and Dewey are, they would have wanted anyone to totally take over the musical reins like Russ Ballard did on Your Move. If anything, it's the opposite. Look at everything they've done since, especially Gerry. He's the only musician on a lot of his songs.


Message: 12342 Posted: Tue Jul 11 14:01:30 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: RE: Moon Children

Random house says it means "bare, desolate and windswept, offering little hope or encouragement, depressing"

I think you meant "chic"!

Message: 12341 Posted: Tue Jul 11 13:38:57 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: RE: Moon Children

Did I say, "meek"? I meant BLEAK! According to Webster: "lacking warm qualities". (LOL)!!!!! Just kidding.

Message: 12340 Posted: Tue Jul 11 13:28:29 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Russ Ballard Influences

>Moon children tend to be a bit on the meek
side. Meek, you're not! <

ROFLMHO!!! I am a moonchild! MEEK?????

Message: 12339 Posted: Tue Jul 11 13:08:49 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: Your Move.

I always felt that the song YOUR MOVE would have been an outstanding single. I can understand why they released THE BORDER, being that it had a similarity to YCDM. But I ould never figure out CAST THE SPIRIT. I always figured since they released two Gerry songs on View, then they had to release two Dewey songs on YM. If the purpose of releasing THE BORDER was because of the similarity to YCDM, why not release a Gerry song next? Oh well, water under a 17 year old bridge.
Regardless, I always enjoyed both Your Move and View From The Ground. I guess it never concerned me who wrote the songs, just who sang them.

Perspective...well that is a different story (I've heard that before).


Message: 12338 Posted: Tue Jul 11 12:23:39 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Russ Ballard Influences

Jim, relying heavily of John Corbett's "Comprehensive History", it seems that Dewey and Gerry, themselves, chose to record with Russ Ballard as John states, " early 1983, Gerry and Dewey were faced with the question of which route to take to capitalize on their regained commercial momentum. They opted to record their next album with the help of the man who had brought them back to the top, Russ Ballard."

Once Ballard was invited in, it's not clear to me whether he was asked to take control by the record company; asked to take control by Dewey and Gerry; or took control by his own hand. Dewey's statement on the matter is subject to one's interpretation. Dewey said, "After the success with Russ on ' You Can Do Magic,' we virtually handed ourselves to him. This was in a period when we really had relegated control almost exclusively to other people. I really felt at that stage that all I was doing was (being) a singer in my own band, and it was somebody else pulling the strings."

Based solely from past postings on the subject of Russ Ballard, it's my opinion that the majority of the fans tend to think of Ballard negatively and that's because of his overwhelming involvement on "Your Move".

If we didn't have the credits from "Your Move" to read, would we have felt differently about the album?

Kevin, are you sure you're a moon child?. Moon children tend to be a bit on the meek side. Meek, you're not!


Message: 12337 Posted: Tue Jul 11 11:38:55 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Your Move.

I always figured the Russ Ballard thing was 100% Capitol. Once "You Can Do Magic" was a hit, I'm sure the record weasles got horny for more.

Record companies rarely care about the artists they represent, only about moving units. It didn't matter to Capitol who wrote the songs or played the music. Those artistic considerations are non-essential to moving product. Art is not commerce.

I know I'm in the minority on this one, but even though it was a departure for America, I like Your Move. Yeah, most of it didn't really sound like "America." But whoever it sounded like, I liked it. The title track is a great pop song and would have been a hit had the shit-for-brains at Capitol have released it.


Message: 12336 Posted: Tue Jul 11 10:19:09 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: YCDM and The Border


YCDM would probably be #5 behind HONEY.


Message: 12335 Posted: Tue Jul 11 10:17:23 2000 By: SUAT

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Message: 12334 Posted: Tue Jul 11 10:12:13 2000 By: SUAT
Subject: ballards lıst

1 tonıght ıs for dreamers
2 my kında women
3 the border

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Message: 12333 Posted: Tue Jul 11 09:59:38 2000 By: SUAT


Message: 12332 Posted: Tue Jul 11 09:18:29 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Russ Ballard influences

Johnny, I think I'd like to know (authoritatively, that is) what exactly happened on "Your Move" before I decide to "blame" Russ Ballard for the dilution of America. That album, along with "Perspective," got very little listening time from me in the 1980s because I've always been a credit reader (in movies, album liner notes, etc.) When I read the liner notes on "You Move" in 1983, I was dismayed. Not only did Russ Ballard pen the lion's share of the songs, but he virtually played all the instruments. Now, was that Russ' decision, America's decision, or Capitol/EMI's decision?

For some time, I held it against Russ Ballard, but more recently Gerry and Dewey have influenced me to think otherwise. From published and web information, I get the impression they appreciated his help, which suggests to me that Russ didn't really make a power play in 1983. Maybe the guys felt true burn-out about that time, something to which they alluded to in John Corbett's history piece. Ultimately, I'd like to know.

Until I know for certain, I will continue to appreciate "You Can Do Magic," a great pop song that seemed focused on America's style. It'd be no. 1 on the top three Ballard songs list, ahead of "The Border," "She's a Runaway," and "Jody."

Jim R.

Message: 12331 Posted: Tue Jul 11 08:59:26 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Favorite Ballard-Written America Songs

1) The Border
2) She's a Runaway
3) Jody

Message: 12330 Posted: Tue Jul 11 08:54:37 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: My Re-do

Robyn, you beat me to the "post your message" button!

Including YCDM and excluding The Border, my selection is:

You Can Do Magic
Tonight Is For Dreamers

Honey gets the bump.

Message: 12329 Posted: Tue Jul 11 08:49:16 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: YCDM and The Border

Mark, I had a hard time deciding whether to include The Border and whether to exclude You Can Do Magic. Maybe we should do it both ways from here on out. That will give us even more subject-matter to discuss. :o) For those that have all ready posted, you can re-post if you wish. I don't think there will be too many postings on this subject from this point forward, however.

The topic of Russ Ballard isn't a very favorable one among fans anyway. A lot of fans blame him for pushing America's style of music toward an unpopular direction. Personally, I think his influence was a positive one. I know Andy thinks so. However, I do agree with those that think his involvement with Your Move was too strong. There's no Russ Ballard to blame for Perspective, however. That's a whole different topic!

Shayne, do you care to re-post...this time including YCDM?

Message: 12328 Posted: Tue Jul 11 08:48:15 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Favorite Ballard-Written America Songs


Tonight is for Dreamers
The Border
I Don't believe in Miracles

On Go Man Go, Gerry experiments with a kind of hip hop version of "House of Cards" Interesting. He doesn't rap , however. Wise choice ( roflmho) I am liking GMG more and more with each listen. Even the bagpipes! Who'd have thunk it? Nice work as always from Gerry Beckley.

Message: 12327 Posted: Tue Jul 11 08:24:08 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: Favorite Ballard-Written America Songs

Here are mine:

She's A Runaway
I Don't Believe In Miracles
Don't Let Me Be Lonely


Message: 12326 Posted: Tue Jul 11 08:06:41 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Ballard songs

1. Tonight Is For Dreamers
2. Jody
3. She's A Runaway

I really don't think The Border should count since it was co-written by Dewey and I don't think You Can Do Magic should be excluded just because it was a hit. But it would not have been on my list anyway.

Message: 12325 Posted: Mon Jul 10 22:10:34 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Ballard songs

1. I Don't Believe in Miracles
2. Jody
3. The Border
Good to have you back in the thick of things, Johnny!
ShariL <><

Message: 12324 Posted: Mon Jul 10 20:11:02 2000 By: GerryK
Subject: Ballard songs

Don't Let Me Be Lonely
I Don't Believe in Miracles
She's A Runaway

Message: 12323 Posted: Mon Jul 10 20:08:02 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Bones

Bones, that was a good one! If we were back in the days records were being made, there would have to be a flip-side to "Homey".

As much as I like Van Go Gan's "What Happened", I see potential. A re-release..." What Hapninnnnnn' ".

Message: 12322 Posted: Mon Jul 10 19:55:41 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Ballard songs.

Border. She's A Runaway. My Kinda Woman.

Message: 12321 Posted: Mon Jul 10 19:43:54 2000 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Ballard-Written Songs

Johnny, as much as I like the song "Honey", I'm waiting for Gerry to do a re-make and RAP version, titled - "HOMEY".
Andy, now the 70s, those were great times. Three more days until New London, who's going?

Message: 12320 Posted: Mon Jul 10 19:12:22 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Favorite Ballard-Written America Songs

Great question Johnny. I'll go with the YOUR MOVE songs. It's an album that brings back a time when I was a teen and in love. (Shoulda known better :) Boy the 80s were a great time !




* Although none of these songs really match the efforts in the Warner Brothers era, the are excellent and the memories are totally 1000% priceless !!


Message: 12319 Posted: Mon Jul 10 18:28:10 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Ballard-Written Songs

The first time I submitted this question, there was no response. Looks like a possible repeat (LOL)!

My choice in no particular order:

Tonight Is For Dreamers

Message: 12318 Posted: Mon Jul 10 15:58:07 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Favorite Ballard-Written America Songs

I count ten songs written by Russ Ballard that are performed by Gerry and Dewey. This includes Dewey's rewrite of "The Border".

How about this as the next fun thing to do? From the following nine Ballard-written songs, list your three favorite. Let's not include "You Can Do Magic" since it, most likely, will be everyone's favorite.

Here's the list: Cast The Spirit, Don't Let Me Be Lonely, Honey, I Don't Believe In Miracles, Jody, My Kinda Woman, She's A Runaway, The Border, Tonight Is For Dreamers

I'll be back with my top three as soon as I give them all a spin on the CD player.

Message: 12317 Posted: Mon Jul 10 13:45:41 2000 By: Nina
Subject: New London, Conn./Thursday

Hey Bones,

Are you going to that FREE America concert in New London, Conn. this Thursday? I'm considering going...but have no idea how to get there!
Is it anywhere near where you are? I'm familiar with Mohegun Sun..but that's the extent of my Connecticut experience! Can you get directions to me? My e-mail:

Thanks in advance! (If you're not away on vacation!!!)


Message: 12316 Posted: Mon Jul 10 08:58:21 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Language du Beech

Yep, I am as Irish as Paddy's pig! ( Clan McCue)

Message: 12315 Posted: Mon Jul 10 07:40:51 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Language du Beech

Ah Steve, I'm fluent in *EsperBeecha*, you see....rofl {=-D (It doesn't hurt that I like to collect emoticons, either...)

Robyn--boiled cabbage! GOOD ONE (are you irish, perchance?)

See ya in about a week!!!!
TkH<-------leaving messages for aliens......B->

Message: 12314 Posted: Mon Jul 10 07:06:49 2000 By: Stephen Baratta
Subject: America Shows

I'm glad to hear that the boys are back in form. I was debating whether to make the 3 hour ride to Alexandria on Thursday but wimped out. If the show was on Fri or Sat. ,I probably would have gone. I am still hoping they will play AC or somewhere in the South Jersey area soon. I have to hear Wind Wave!!!!!!

By the Way Nina - Knowing Gerry and Dewey the way we all do- THERE IS NO WAY THAT THEY DIDN'T APPRECIATE THE QUILTS!!!! Your "Colleague" is a real IDIOT and has no idea who Gerry & Dewey are anyway.

WOW - That "Beechlady" has a (C= LOL TkH<------ Language all her own,dosen't she????

C Ya ,


Message: 12313 Posted: Mon Jul 10 01:57:41 2000 By: Rob
Subject: OpSail in New London

Lisa Rose, and Richard C.--
You may wish to go to New London, CT to see America this Thursday night. The show is FREE. It's at Ft. Trumbull. And the OpSail, tall ships, is free too except for a parking shuttle charge I think. The show,I'm told, is scheduled to go from 7 pm to 8:30. The next day I think their schedule has them back on the west coast. This is definitely a family event too if you have kids. Maybe you can make up for the short show at Westbury.

Message: 12312 Posted: Sun Jul 09 21:52:05 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Di

John C, well said! As Gerry stated in his message about the song and as you reiterated, "HIVB" is very, very haunting. In a peculiar way, I can hear pieces of "Houses In White". The sounds of "Heaven Is Very Beautiful" remind me a lot of one of my favorite movies. That movie is "The Elephant Man".

I wonder who the two managers are/were that Di mentions? It sounds as though she made a previous attempt to have her work come to fruition.

Message: 12311 Posted: Sun Jul 09 20:52:37 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Westbury show

I agree it was probably the shortest show I ever saw them do too!! But I will appreciate them no matter what the length. I was able to pick up another t-shirt --a blue America and this one is a lot nicer than the Brown Go Man Go shirt. Gerry was his usual friendly self and they sounded as fresh as ever. Counting down til the next time I get to see them.

Message: 12310 Posted: Sun Jul 09 19:59:48 2000 By: Richard C
Subject: Westbury show

America was their usual polished act, but after seeing them for the 15th time, it was the shortest show to date. They started at 8:05 and they were done by 8:50. I knew we were in trouble when they didn't start with riverside. Set list was 10 songs:
ventura highway,you can do magic,daisy jane,wind wave,hangover,don't cross..,never be lonely,sandman,sister..,horse..
After the show they came out and signed a few things I had brought with me(History cd, a photo from the Tower record promo,America Anthology song book,and the 2000 tour shirt).
What a great and classy act!Would love to see them alone again.
Gerry said the agent wanted them off in 45 minutes. Dewey mentioned that there was some problems with Tower records. Maybe it's the Rhino deal?

Message: 12309 Posted: Sun Jul 09 11:10:18 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Di

Johnny, I've had the tape of "Heaven Is Very Beautiful" for about a year now, and it has to be one of the most moving (and haunting) works I've heard in a long time. It's a powerful song because we all have a Di in us somewhere, a person who is yearning to be that poet, or that artist, or the traveler, or musician, and for many of us, we never really have the time, the confidence, or good fortune to fully pursue it. What makes this recording so impressive is that Gerry, no matter how fortunate he may have been in living his own dreams, has never turned his back on the rest of us who haven't had that same luck. Through Gerry, Di finally got her chance to make her stamp on the world. The bittersweet part is that she'll never know. Unless she's looking down on all of us from a very beautiful place.


Message: 12308 Posted: Sun Jul 09 10:41:23 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: To Nina

Your co-worker has the brains of a boiled cabbage. Your quilts were a lovely giift and the guys are gentlemen, quite kind to their fans.

Message: 12307 Posted: Sun Jul 09 09:43:50 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Di Farrelly's "Heaven Is Very Beautiful"

No, Kevin, no green or brown "Go Man Go" t-shirt. Not yet, anyway.

I did purchase Di Farrelly's "Heaven Is Very Beautiful", however. I was wondering what your thoughts are for those of you who have, as well.

After listening to "HIVB", a deep sadness came over me. It's because I felt Mrs. Farrelly's frustration as a person with beautiful songs and thoughts in her heart but not being able to fully express them.

I came away wondering if Gerry ever spoke to Mrs. Farrelly. I have the impression they only communicated through Gerry's mom. I also wonder what year Gerry first began receiving her tapes and what year he received the last one.

I couldn't help but wonder what year Mrs. Farrelly passed away. If she could speak to us from beyond, no doubt, she would say, "Heaven IS indeed very beautiful!"

Thanks to Gerry and Bobby, Mrs. Farrelly HAS spoken to us from beyond...spoken to us very beautifully, I must say!!! Thanks G & B!

Message: 12306 Posted: Sun Jul 09 07:51:48 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Go Man Go.

Just got my Go Man Go CD and T-shirts yesterday. Did anyone else get the "green" Go Man Go T-shirt? My green shirt is brown.

Go Man Go CD is interesting, but I'm not sure I'll listen to it much.


Message: 12305 Posted: Sun Jul 09 06:58:36 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Back from the

Hi all.

Nina, what an INSENSITIVE LOUT that collegue was! Who needs *enemies* with coworkers like that....whew. Sounds like he/she needs a good dose of chill in pill form.

Sorry I haven't been posting since Sunrise (which I didn't go to-BTW
)C= )the son had one of those MASSIVE nosebleeds you couldn't stop....ER for 5 hours, UGH. Poor little kid. I'm suprised his nose went back into shape after what they did.....ack! Oh, well. Kids are resilient! Just wish us adults were!!! Anyway spend the majority of the 4th ASLEEP in the sack!!!! )))C= I suppose I missed WINDWAVE. Double wah!!!!! )C=

Everyone take care-I have parents in from Michigan and then I'm off to NewYawk and Baltimore with the hubmeister for the Phish vs Yankmes and Orioles!!!! I'll be back the 19th!!! Maybe after that I'll think about starting that "rocker" contest that was mentioned a while back!!!!! You up for that Steve, or should we wait a bit?

Take Care ALL!!! (C=

TkH<------------smelling of cleaning solvents

Message: 12304 Posted: Sat Jul 08 23:14:57 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Westbury New York show

This show was a real treat. America shared the bill with Air Supply, so America's alloted time was quite short. I have nothing against Air Supply, in fact I really love a few of their lesser known songs, but I would much rather have heard a "long set" from America.
I finally got to hear WINDWAVE....I think I can die happy now :)lol
It was a pleasant shock to hear that song done live, one of the first songs that I learned on guitar. I really appreciated Gerry's background vocals and counter melody on that song. It was obvious that they put a tremendous effort into polishing the song up.
The rest of the show was the usual excellent greatest hits we've come to expect. It's interesting to see how Gerry's acoustic introduction to SANDMAN has evolved over the years. I love the way that he starts it these days. All in all, a too short but excellent show.


Message: 12303 Posted: Fri Jul 07 16:48:42 2000 By: jeff brink

I've always liked alternate versions of the same songs by the same artist so GO MAN GO works for me...especially the more acoustically sounding NOW SUE.

The more I listen to LIKE A BROTHER the more I like it ...SHELTERING SKY, LIKE A BROTHER, and TODAY are really good songs.


Message: 12302 Posted: Fri Jul 07 16:47:44 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Misc.

Nina, that was a very hurtful comment that your colleague said. I noticed you said "colleague" and not friend, thank goodness. One word comes to mind why he/she would say that: jealousy!!! Let's hope your colleague never becomes a supervisor. I've worked for one or two of those types before.

Shayne's mention of George Harrison reminds me that Ringo Starr is 60 today. It's a bit hard to believe, huh?

Heard "VHighway" on the radio today. For me, it's been awhile.

Message: 12301 Posted: Fri Jul 07 15:10:07 2000 By: Nina
Subject: Yet ANOTHER message to Maureen!

Hi Maureen....Just letting you know that I FINALLY acessed your e-mail message! (The "spooky" thing is....I have no idea WHY it worked this time and NONE of the other times over the past week or so!!)

How COOL to have Gerry play "ALL MY LIFE" for you! I've always wanted him to play "SARAH" or "YOU COULD'VE BEEN THE ONE" for me...but I'd never have the guts to ask! Besides they aren't doing either song on this I'd be out of luck anyway!

Thank you for letting me in on your conversation with Gerry and Dewey last month about my quilts. It's always a thrill to hear that they really liked them! Did I ever mention on this folder what one of my colleaques said when they found out I made the guys quilts???
"Gee, they probably get a lot of that junk...Did you check out the
dumpsters behind the theater after the concert?"

Isn't that a terrible thing to say? It broke my heart!

Ah, my life! Someday I'll write a book!


Message: 12300 Posted: Fri Jul 07 09:30:50 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Like A Brother

Hi everyone,

We just got back from a whirlwind trip to Chicago and the Smokey Mountains (just a bit out of the way). It's amazing how easy a trip with the kids is with a TV and VCR in the van. The highlight was clearly the Pro Football Hall Of Fame, in Canton, OH.

I got a chance to really listen to "Like a Brother" and "Go Man GO" and have the following observations:

"Like A Brother" - It appears that GB has been relegated to George Harrison status. Of the three songs he has been alloted, two are not sung entirely by him and one was from an earlier album. However, his contributions are far superior to the others. I can not remove "Sheltering Sky" from my brain.

Otherwise, I am only moderately happy with the rest of the CD.

"Go Man GO" - I stand by my earlier assesment that this is better used as an enhancement to Van GO Gan. If you have the choice, I clearly vote for "VGG".

Anyway, that just my 2 pennies. Looking forward to the 19th (if I have any money left - gas prices were unbelievable up north - as much as $2.25 in Chicago).


Message: 12299 Posted: Fri Jul 07 06:15:35 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: 7/8-America concert

I will be there at the concert too!! Maybe we can cheer enough so they do so many encores that Air Supply will go home!! (Nothing against Air Supply but I would prefer just America). I am so glad I got Go Man Go and Like a Brother in time to get Gerry to sign them.

Message: 12298 Posted: Fri Jul 07 05:49:53 2000 By: Riverside00001
Subject: 7/6-Birchmere song list

The show at the Birchmere (Alexandria,Va.)was great again this year.
Since they were the only group (and as Gerry said, "rested cause we
had yesterday off") they did the extended set. The set included
some tunes I hadn't heard for a while...such as Wind Wave and
Hangover. Here is the list (in order)...Riverside,Ventura Hwy.,
You Can Do Magic, Don't Cross The River, Daisy Jane, Wind Wave,
Mirror To Mirror, Another Try, Three Roses, I Need You, Wednesday
Morning, Pages, Wheels Are Turning, Tin Man, Woman Tonight, Only
In Your Heart, California Dreamin', Lonely People, Hangover, Things
We Said Today, Never Be Lonely, Sandman, Sister Golden Hair and they
encored with California Revisted and Horse With No Name. Thanks
Dewey and Gerry for a very memorable evening! Gary

Message: 12297 Posted: Fri Jul 07 04:07:21 2000 By: TomP
Subject: RE: Tomorrow/handles

The pump don't work cause the vandals stole the handles! (My favorite lyric... that I didn't write)
In answer to the question about the meaning of "people turning handles":
The main rationale for the line was that "handles" rhymes with "candles". In my original post I mentioned that Dan deserves credit for "arranging and polishing" Tomorrow. Well, Dan was polishing the handles! The "handles" are door handles, as in, coming and going through a door. The song is about being "homesick".
The Peek's are nomads by nature, and it has given us plenty of opportunity to value the thrill of going home.
Tom Peek
P.S. If you want to experience outstanding songwriting, listen to Dave Peek (The Endorphins), he leaves us all "Standing".

Message: 12296 Posted: Thu Jul 06 22:04:38 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: What a long strange trip its been...

I just arrived home from my 3 week road trip. I drove from New York to California. What a country !!!! I ended up driving 6700+ miles !!!
What a blast !
During the last three weeks, I was able to go through America's entire collection. It made a great car ride even better. I'm looking forward to the WESTBURY NY show this Saturday. Take care everyone :)


Message: 12295 Posted: Thu Jul 06 21:58:56 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Thank you Tom Peek !

A sincere thanks is in order for writing TOMORROW. I count that as my favourite song on the HEARTS CD. Although there isn't even one wasted track on HEARTS, TOMORROW stands out for it's beauty as well as Dan's perfect vocals....So thank you Tom !!!


Message: 12294 Posted: Thu Jul 06 21:46:03 2000 By: Richard C
Subject: 7/8-America concert

My wife and I are spending are anniversary on Sat. at the Americaconcert at Westbury Music Fair. The only downside is they open for Air Supply. The past two years it has been the same billing. We have gotten to see America after the shows for autographs, so we are hoping this year will be the same. My twin 4 yr olds like From a moving train,Town and Country, Tin Man(because they love the wizard of oz, and hit it(which is lonley people). Fill you in on the concert.

Message: 12293 Posted: Thu Jul 06 18:59:16 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Gerry turning handles


Message: 12292 Posted: Thu Jul 06 18:44:15 2000 By: Lazlo
Subject: Gerry turning handles

I just wanna say that Gerry Beckley turned the handle and opened the door for me in 1975 with DAISY JANE. It was the perfect thing at the right time. In fact, it resonated so deeply with my own personal life to the point where I considered Gerry to be my spiritual doppelganger.

Message: 12291 Posted: Thu Jul 06 17:28:44 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Tomorrow

Alan, I think that's a good question about the meaning of "people turning handles". Robyn, that's a good interpretation you gave..

I always thought it meant people were coming and going, opening doors and closing doors. However, I can't tie in the lyric that follows. Robyn, your interpretation pieces the lyrics together quit well.

I'm eager to hear Tom's answer.

I believe Tom lives in England. If I'm reading the date line correctly on my world clock, the sun is just now beginning to rise.

Message: 12290 Posted: Thu Jul 06 16:12:32 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Tomorrow--Turning handles

I always imagined people locking doorknobs "making sure I'll be here tomorrow"

I could be wrong ;)

Message: 12289 Posted: Thu Jul 06 15:41:28 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Tomorrow

"You how'd you ever get so cool ....
your mother must have kept you out of school ..."

Message: 12288 Posted: Thu Jul 06 15:25:16 2000 By: Alan Wind
Subject: Tomorrow

Tom what do the lyrics "people turning handles " mean?

Message: 12287 Posted: Thu Jul 06 12:33:35 2000 By: Mike Bunn
Subject: RE: "Tomorrow"

I was always under the impression that this song was Dan's way of saying he was getting tired of touring because it took him away from his family for long periods of time.

Funny, that is how I feel about the song "Old Virginia" from the same Album and Catherine gets credit for the song. Half-a-man has sort of the same theme. Dan's heart and inspiration appears to have been with family on this Album. Can't blame him for leaving the group two Albums later over a band (career) vs family conflict. I would definately go for family and the "Simple Life". My family has always been there for me. As a Fan my loss of "Pure America (Dewey, Dan, & Gerry)" after Hideaway can't compare to a loss of Family.

Message: 12286 Posted: Thu Jul 06 12:11:56 2000 By: Maureen
Subject: Message for Nina...........

Hi Nina,
I was just replying to your message. I will try and remember what I sent to you. Just this morning I was cleaning up my 'sent box' and deleted your message. No big deal. Good luck w/ your PC. Try going to the Control Panel, then to add/remove programs, and remove RealPlayer then reinstall you email software. Hope that helps and works.

Seeing 'the boys' on Saturday. Can't wait, its been almost a month !!

Hope all is well w/ you and yours.


Message: 12285 Posted: Thu Jul 06 11:14:29 2000 By: Pat B.
Subject: RE: "Tomorrow"

I have always enjoyed playing and singing along to this song (I just love that G Bm Cmaj7). I was always under the impression that this song was Dan's way of saying he was getting tired of touring because it took him away from his family for long periods of time.

Message: 12284 Posted: Thu Jul 06 02:04:16 2000 By: TomP
Subject: RE: "Tomorrow"

Pat B: The simple answer is that it was the easiest way. At the time I was just HAPPY to know that I had a song on an America album. Although Dan has the copyright "credit", Dan made sure that I received "credit$" for Tomorrow, and I got the full credit for all of my songs that he used on his solo albums.
When we would get together, I would play my songs to Dan, and he would listen quietly. It could be a year or more before we would meet again and he would play them back exactly the way I had originally played them for him. Dan has always had a "knack", (I call it genius) for being able to hear a song once, and totally commit it to memory. He did this for my songs, Lighthouse (All Things Are Possible), Power and Glory (Doer of the Word), and Magnolia (Bodden Town).

Message: 12283 Posted: Wed Jul 05 16:12:25 2000 By: Pat B.
Subject: Tomorrow

TomP; if you wrote (or co-wrote) the song: "Tomorrow", then why did Dan recieve all the credit?

Message: 12282 Posted: Wed Jul 05 09:43:19 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: B-L-W.

It gets better with each listen.


Message: 12281 Posted: Tue Jul 04 21:27:32 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Reply to Robyn

June 14 (Flag Day) Birthday presents to myself: B/L/W-Like A Brother, Gerry Beckley-Go Man Go. Happy 4th everyone!

Message: 12280 Posted: Tue Jul 04 18:51:12 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Wednesday nite chat

I will be there at the same time ( 7 Pacific) if anyone wishes to join me. That's tomorrow nite , by the way!

Message: 12279 Posted: Tue Jul 04 15:43:39 2000 By: Nina
Subject: Reply to Robyn

Hi Robyn,

I'm more of a "middle of the month" June birthday....but it's nice to know I share the month with so many other nice folks!

My birthday was June 16th!

Message: 12278 Posted: Tue Jul 04 07:31:46 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: 4th Of July Show

Karen DiGesu (formerly of Oxygen Records) is now living in Florida and she'll be at the 4th of July show in Sunrise Florida tonight. She told me that the gig isn't really at the Sunrise Musical Theatre but that it's a free show for the TOWN of Sunrise in Wellesby Park. If any of you are going to be there, be sure to tell the band (and Karen) hello for me and have a great 4th of July! --Steve

Message: 12277 Posted: Mon Jul 03 22:39:02 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: A Question For You Being That It's The 4th of July

Question: What is going to be better than 224 years of United States history?

Answer: " 30 Years Of America: 'Highway' "

Message: 12276 Posted: Mon Jul 03 19:20:36 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: TV Commercial

Thanks Nina for the "welcome back" greeting. I can relate to your e-mail frustration. For awhile, it wasn't "Johnny B. Goode" or "Johnny Angel". It was definitely "Johnny Get Angry". (LOL)

Have you guys seen the commercial for a 2 CD/cassette offer on TV called, "Smooth 70's"? One of the songs featured is "Sister Golden Hair". They play a snippet of the song! It got my attention when I heard Gerry singing.

Message: 12275 Posted: Mon Jul 03 16:38:34 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Nina

When is your birthday? Ther is a whole knot of us toward the end of the month (June 23, 24 25 and 26)

Let me know, ok?

Message: 12274 Posted: Mon Jul 03 14:36:37 2000 By: Nina
Subject: Message to Maureen

Maureen...Thanks for taking the time to e-mail me, but for some strange reason I can't access your most recent message! I'll keep trying though! Although I have a really "backwards" computer...I've usually been able to receive and reply to my e-mail messages...I can't understand what the problem is! I DID attempt to
download "RealPlayer 8" (the free player) last week-end...and I guess
I messed up badly because I have neither the player or access to my e-mail!!! I need to take a computer course SOOOOON! Being self-taught is fine...up to a point, then it becomes frustrating!

Happy 4th of July to everyone! Wish "America" was playing near-by to celebrate!

P.S. Welcome back, Johnny! I'm a JUNE birthday, too...sounds like I'm in good company!


Message: 12273 Posted: Mon Jul 03 12:48:02 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Steve, Are You Sure...

Steve, are you sure you didn't help Dan write, "Don't Cross The River" or help Gerry write, "Sometimes Lovers"? The evidence suggests perhaps:

don'tcros ST h E ri VE r

S ome T im E slo VE rs

Message: 12272 Posted: Mon Jul 03 08:18:18 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: "Tomorrow"

It was tough to find a song title with Johnny in it, but I believe I found one. So, "JOHNNYbgoode", it sure is good to have you back online with your tremendous insight (LOL) into the song titles.

Message: 12271 Posted: Mon Jul 03 07:12:58 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: "Tomorrow"

Like Dewey's "wholewiDEWorld" & Gerry's part of "storyofateenaGER", I'm not surprised that "TOMorrow" was actually written by Tom Peek. It has Tom's name written all over it. :0)

I don't recall who it was, but one fan casted all five of his votes for "Tomorrow" as his five favorite America songs written by Dan. I counted it only once, of course. Nice try, though. By the way, it wasn't Tom; I do recall that much. (LOL)

Message: 12270 Posted: Mon Jul 03 00:35:26 2000 By: Linda Leavitt
Subject: Romance is inevitable

Overwhelming world
Tied up in a knot
Anything, you ask...
Anything I've got.

Sounds like something that Gerry wrote -- not Dewey. The guitar is a cello -- forever keeping the beat, melodious in its soul and constant as a heartbeat. Misunderstood, yet loved just the same. To all the songwriters and balladeers -- steal as many hearts as you can...for love is timeless and knows many tears.

Best to anyone who has ever enjoyed America on a warm Summer evening with too much white wine and a very cuddly someone,

Message: 12269 Posted: Sun Jul 02 12:47:45 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: To Johnny

Well, Wednesdays are the day I am in the chat room, better for me. The Thursday chat goes on as well ( without me).

Message: 12268 Posted: Sun Jul 02 12:46:42 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: To Steve

you mean you are actually taking a vacation?????? Have a wonderful time!

Message: 12267 Posted: Sun Jul 02 03:12:07 2000 By: TomP
Subject: RE: Results of "Favorite America Songs By Dan"

Just for the record... The song "Tomorrow". Although the copyright is in Dan's name, I wrote the song. I am sure that Dan would acknowledge the same. In fact, he deserves the majority credit for arranging, and polishing up the final track. I have always appreciated that Dan valued my songwriting enough to put "Tomorrow" on an America album!
Now, did I ever tell you about the time I told Dewey about a rocking horse I had as a child... that I never named? LOL,
Tom Peek

Message: 12266 Posted: Sat Jul 01 17:31:09 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: The Next Two Weeks

WELL DESERVED time off,,,,,,Have a GREAT TIME!!!

TkH<---computer fixed/life is GOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!! ((((((C=

Message: 12265 Posted: Sat Jul 01 17:18:02 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: The Next Two Weeks

Our favorite band will be playing tonight at the Six Flags Frontier City in Oklahoma City. This is the beginning of what Rhino calls "their new tour in support of Highway." I wish them the best of luck as they stay very busy touring during July.

By the way, I'll be doing a little touring of my own until July 15th so you won't see very many updates to the America Fans web site and I likely won't be replying to any mail messages. So, don't think I'm ignoring you or that I've dropped off the face of the earth, I'm just enjoying some time off with my family.

Have a happy and safe summer everyone!


Message: 12264 Posted: Sat Jul 01 17:10:46 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Old Man Thanks

Johnny, yes I did receive your message and I did reply. I hope you get the incoming mail working soon. --Steve

Message: 12263 Posted: Sat Jul 01 17:09:03 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Worthless FYI

Does anybody physically have a promo copy of the "Highway" set yet? Someone told me they saw my name in the credits. I'm not sure why it would be there (though I did e-mail some guy regarding timing on some of the promo singles I had from radio), but that would be very cool.

Joe, I don't think a promo copy exists yet but Rhino sent me a copy of the release notes that would go out with the box set. That's where your name and the names of several other fans is listed. You can go to this link to see it: Album 30a

Message: 12262 Posted: Sat Jul 01 16:43:33 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Wednesday Night Chat

Robyn, I will if I can. By the way, why Wednesday nights instead of the scheduled Thursdays?

Message: 12261 Posted: Sat Jul 01 11:35:51 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Me

now that you have access, I hope you will join us on Wednesday nights for chats! ( Sometimes I even make the regular Thursday onees0

Message: 12260 Posted: Sat Jul 01 11:23:17 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Me

Thanks Robyn! It's good to be back although I wasn't too far away. I really missed reading everyone's posts on a daily basis. Now that I have access at home, I'm finding out that I tend to surf too much and am putting things off that need attention. : (

Message: 12259 Posted: Sat Jul 01 11:14:57 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Results of "Favorite America Songs By Dan"

From May's informal poll, here are the results of our favorite America songs written by Dan followed by the number of votes each song received:

Rainy Day (7)
Tomorrow (7)

California Revisited (6)
Today's The Day (6)

Don't Cross The River (5)
Glad To See You (5)
Lonely People (5)
Old Virginia (5)
Saturn Nights (5)

It's Life (4)
Jet Boy Blue (4)

Don't Cry Baby (3)
Everyone I Meet Is From California (3)
Hurricane (3)
Never Found The Time (3)
Story Of A Teenager (3)
These Brown Eyes (3)
Willow Tree Lullaby (3)
Woman Tonight (3)

Can't You See (2)
Donkey Jaw (2)

Hat Trick (1)
In The Country (1)
Simple Life (1)
You (1)

Message: 12258 Posted: Sat Jul 01 11:03:27 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Johnny

Welcome back to cyberland. I have missed you as no doubt others have!!! Hope you had a great birthday too.

Message: 12257 Posted: Sat Jul 01 10:05:18 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Message From Linda and Mark

Very interesting posts, Linda and Mark. Way to go, Inspector Howard!

Mark, that's a great story about "By The Ocean". I wonder if anyone ever asked Dewey or Gerry about the "mysterious" song.

Message: 12256 Posted: Sat Jul 01 08:48:23 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Howard solves a mystery.

Oh, Howie---you the BOMB!!!! (C=

Have a great weekend everyone!!!!

TkH<----proud sponsor of the weinie awards!

Message: 12255 Posted: Sat Jul 01 06:57:14 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Howard solves a mystery.

Through dedicated detective work that would have made Columbo proud, our very own Howard (yes the same one who was named Dan Peek fan of the year) solved a long standing America mystery dating back to 1973. In 1973 the bootleg "America and The Eagles In Concert" was released. One of the America songs listed on the album was "By The Ocean." Howard, myself and many other America fans have been searching for this song which was not included on any other America album or even concert tapes from that period. Howard finally tracked down a tape of the bootleg recently. After a quick listen the mystery song was uncovered to actually be "Green Monkey". The bootleg was made from a concert appearance their prior to or just after the release of Hat Trick. So the people involved with the project didn't know the title of this song so they tried to glean a title from the lyrics. The line "Fly the ocean ..." sounded like "By the ocean ..." to them. Thus the song was listed as "By The Ocean" and the foundation of a perplexing America mystery was inadvertantly set. Congrats to Howard for breaking the case after 27 years!

Message: 12254 Posted: Sat Jul 01 06:56:30 2000 By: jimnak

Terrific story, Linda. Thanks a lot. I think this article might just be one for the AMERICA archives. Just another view on the greatness that is DEWEY BUNNELL & some perspective on just where some of that outstandingly warm music comes from. THREE ROSES for these three posts.

Message: 12253 Posted: Sat Jul 01 00:19:39 2000 By: Linda Leavitt


It's been a long time. Since 1984 to be exact. I had a short-wave radio show which went out to all the armed forces. We played an "America" segment every Friday nite. There were tons of servicemen who tuned in, a fan club and a lot of callers. One nite, nearly midnite, Dewey called in and we spoke for nearly two hours. He recounted his years in England, on army bases...growing up...listening to short wave radio. I shared his feelings with many who tuned in and it was one great big worldwide community. There was such a vibe that nite that I'm sure it lit up the airwaves. I'll never forget that nite and all the souls who tuned in. It was one big homesick America lovefest. When I played Ventura Highway, every guy from California phoned in long distance. Wild. Anyway. Just reminiscing and it would be great to hear from Dewey again because he is such a talent and he just knew that a lot of lonely souls were tuning in that nite. And, that made all the difference. That heart and soul of his comes out in his songs and it's touching. I can't help feeling that -- on that certain lonely nite -- that short-wave radio broadcast was his touchstone too.

*Linda Leavitt Bell (now in California...)

Message: 12252 Posted: Sat Jul 01 00:19:34 2000 By: Linda Leavitt


It's been a long time. Since 1984 to be exact. I had a short-wave radio show which went out to all the armed forces. We played an "America" segment every Friday nite. There were tons of servicemen who tuned in, a fan club and a lot of callers. One nite, nearly midnite, Dewey called in and we spoke for nearly two hours. He recounted his years in England, on army bases...growing up...listening to short wave radio. I shared his feelings with many who tuned in and it was one great big worldwide community. There was such a vibe that nite that I'm sure it lit up the airwaves. I'll never forget that nite and all the souls who tuned in. It was one big homesick America lovefest. When I played Ventura Highway, every guy from California phoned in long distance. Wild. Anyway. Just reminiscing and it would be great to hear from Dewey again because he is such a talent and he just knew that a lot of lonely souls were tuning in that nite. And, that made all the difference. That heart and soul of his comes out in his songs and it's touching. I can't help feeling that -- on that certain lonely nite -- that short-wave radio broadcast was his touchstone too.

*Linda Leavitt Bell (now in California...)

Message: 12251 Posted: Sat Jul 01 00:15:21 2000 By: Linda Leavitt


It's been a long time. Since 1984 to be exact. I had a short-wave radio show which went out to all the armed forces. We played an "America" segment every Friday nite. There were tons of servicemen who tuned in, a fan club and a lot of callers. One nite, nearly midnite, Dewey called in and we spoke for nearly two hours. He recounted his years in England, on army bases...growing up...listening to short wave radio. I shared his feelings with many who tuned in and it was one great big worldwide community. There was such a vibe that nite that I'm sure it lit up the airwaves. I'll never forget that nite and all the souls who tuned in. It was one big homesick America lovefest. When I played Ventura Highway, every guy from California phoned in long distance. Wild. Anyway. Just reminiscing and it would be great to hear from Dewey again because he is such a talent and he just knew that a lot of lonely souls were tuning in that nite. And, that made all the difference. That heart and soul of his comes out in his songs and it's touching. I can't help feeling that -- on that certain lonely nite -- that short-wave radio broadcast was his touchstone too.

*Linda Leavitt Bell (now in California...)

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