Chat Folder Archive

Archives: September 2000

Message: 13748 Posted: Sat Sep 30 21:38:58 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: this and that

Shari-- he's a perfectionist ( I wonder where he gets that-lol!)

Johnny- I don't think Gerry has a Pacemaker ( really obscure 60's reference there. I have an office mate who says that talking to me is like taking a test. She went on to compare me to Dennis Miller in obscure references. That's why I like where I work. At least someone knows what I'm talking about!!!)

Message: 13747 Posted: Sat Sep 30 21:23:25 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: I'd Love To Hear Gerry Sing....

Boy, would I love to hear Gerry sing, "Ferry Cross The Mersey"! I'll let someone else mention what this refers to.

Message: 13746 Posted: Sat Sep 30 18:37:25 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Matt's gig

Matt told me it didn't go well, but it is my experience that he is very hard on himself. Unfortunately we couldn't go. Still hoping to hear his new band (walter phobicman) soon.

Message: 13745 Posted: Sat Sep 30 11:28:47 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Great genes ...

How did Matt's own gig at the "World Famous Belly Up" go? I guess he's been to busy to comment on it. I agree Matt is a fine musician and a nice guy to boot!

Message: 13744 Posted: Sat Sep 30 09:16:12 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Great genes ...

Just a note:
I understand that GERRY's son Matt is expecting to graduate from college in San Diego sometime this winter. Upon graduation he has made the decision to pursue music on a full-time basis. Already he has quite a portfolio of material & has already recorded quite a few songs. He sings, plays acoustic & electric guitars & has been working on the keyboards. Some of his studio work already contains keyboards. His material is quite excellent & I believe it will appeal to a fairly wide range of listeners, more on the sophisticated side. I know Sheri has heard him live in his earlier days. I still remember young Matt at the Universal Amphitheatre, dressed in a neat blue sportcoat & all gussied up, probably 6 or 7 years old, no more than knee high to a grasshopper in height. He would join his Dad on stage. His experience level goes way back. I am predicting he will do very well & we all await his 1st commercial release on CD. He's got what it takes & has a great attitude about life.

Message: 13743 Posted: Sat Sep 30 09:03:22 2000 By: kiri
Subject: hey thanks

you all are a boost. one sad part is that it takes me so long to stop being shy around people and i was finally starting to make friends there.

since i've found the chat folder not that long ago, i could tell many of you have hit on much harder times than this! give YOURSELVES credit for staying positive! i'll bounce back. what does it say in monty python..."it's merely a flesh wound!"??? and yes, where is an america concert when i need it! i'm stranded in bfe, illinois!

btw, nina - i have not forgotten spending my weekends grading essays and barely keeping ahead of the kids in a novel and chaperoning an event, haven't forgotten...

Message: 13742 Posted: Sat Sep 30 08:15:35 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Re: good news/bad news


I have to echo what a couple of others have already said: All things happen for a reason. When I got handed the proverbial pink slip this summer from my former employer of six years, I was devastated. I didn't see how I could possibly get another job in my field in the area where I lived that would pay as good as I what I was making there.

Well, it turned out to be the biggest favor they ever did for me. Once I was forced to get out and start looking for a job, I found out that IT professionals were in a lot more demand in my area than I ever imagined. With my skill set, I thought I would have to pack up and move to Portland or even Boston (with 6 kids, a mortgage and a lot of debt, that ain't easy). Anyway, to make a short story long, I found another job even closer to home with a great company that pays a lot better than my former employer did.

Hang in there. I'm sure something better is just around the corner. And take Nina's advice and get to an AMERICA concert (or at least get a Dunkin' Donuts Coolata) ASAP!


Message: 13741 Posted: Sat Sep 30 07:42:12 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: re: Janice's note to Kiri

Yeah, what SHE said!

Keep your spirits up and hope alive Kiri!!!! Janice is ABSOLUTELY correct. Life is convoluted (sp?)and seemingly does some pretty strange things. I know it sounds easy speaking from the "other side" but we were in your situation 2 years ago and it looked pretty bleak....but all's well that ends well!!!!! (C=

TkH<------------Don't give up until you reach for the silver cup

Message: 13740 Posted: Sat Sep 30 06:15:29 2000 By: Nina
Subject: goodnews/badnews

Kiri...I'm so sorrry about your job! You DO realize I was watching with interest to see how a fellow "teacher-creature" would fare in the big, bad world ! I was hoping all was well! Keep trying...and DON'T fall back into teaching too soon...or your week-ends and nights WON'T be your own! (I'm estimating at least 5 hrs. of school
work waiting for me this week-end!)

I think you need an AMERICA concert! Find one quick!

Good Luck!


Message: 13739 Posted: Sat Sep 30 06:03:26 2000 By: Janice
Subject: re: San Diego and note to Kiri

Wow..sounds like a great that was cute with the kids (yah, even you, Matt)..on stage! Gotta see the pics on that one..
Kiri, I am a firm believer that everything happens for a reason. What may appear to be a major setback on the surface is really opportuntity in disguise (one door closes, another opens)..If you can afford to, take the time to reassess your direction and connect with what makes you feel passionate about life. Read inspirational books by Marcia Weider, or attend one of her conferences. I am planning on attending one in Maui next June. At any rate, keep your chin up and think positive..turn it around in your favor.
Have a great weekend's a beautiful fall day here in the south!

Message: 13738 Posted: Sat Sep 30 01:06:44 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Concert Friday Night at Humphrey's

Thanks for the review Sheri, glad you had a great time, as did 2,000 others plus those in the boats & kayaks watching for free in the HARBOR. This was a spectacular show b/4 a sold out crowd at a very, very nice venue next to the HARBOR in San Diego. AMERICA put on an unbelievable show all culminating in the HORSE finale as Sheri described. The entire 2,000 were on their feet by the time SANDMAN was played. It was great to hear HANGOVER, such a great song live, it really digs. I think John Stamos is a very good friend of GERRY & DEWEY's, so Willie was kind enough to let him play drums on HORSE while Willie manned the congo's.

Message: 13737 Posted: Fri Sep 29 23:24:10 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Concert Friday Night at Humphrey's

Another beautiful evening concert in San Diego on the bay. Unfortunately, the fog machine was working overtime, apparently trying to make up for the lack of fog in the bay. At times it was hard to see the guys on stage, and I was in the fourth row! Sold out house (Gerry commented on it) Venue seats about 2000.
Poco opened.
Play list:
2. Ventura Highway
3. You Can Do Magic
4. Don't Cross the River
5. Daisy Jane
6. Windwave (my first time to hear it live, very nice)
7. Three Roses
8. I Need You
9. Wednesday morning
10. Wheels
11. Tin Man
12. Woman Tonight
13. Only In Your Heart
14. California Dreamin
15. Lonely People
16. Hangover (first time for me live, like live better than memorex)
17. Beatles song Things We Said Today
18. Never Be Lonely
19. Sandman
20. Sister Golden Hair
21. California Revisited
22. Horse WNN
Matt came out and joined for Horse, as did a little girl who Matt later told me was Dewey's girlfriend's daughter. John Stamos played drums for Horse. Forgot to ask Matt how he got involved. Matt, care to comment?
Dewey made a comment when introducing Woodz that Woodz's wife is very large with their first child, due in about a month.
JimN took some pictures from the side of the stage that he said he'd try to get off to Steve tonight or tomorrow, but not sure how they'll turn out between the distance and the stupid fog machine.
Lucky guy gets to go to Anaheim tomorrow night too. Couldn't talk my hubby into doing that one also.
All My Life was on the playlist for the encore, but was crossed out. I was so hoping to hear Gerry sing it!
Great concert, great venue, great evening. Thanks, guys!
(Hubby commented that he doesn't remember Dewey ever sounding stronger.)
Time to go to bed and see if I can recover my voice!
ShariL <><
P.S. Thanks again, Jim.

Message: 13736 Posted: Fri Sep 29 22:04:37 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: good news/bad news

Due to the situation this morning
All in the world's okay


Don't let it get you down (Kiri)

Message: 13735 Posted: Fri Sep 29 20:11:34 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: good news/bad news

Sorry to hear that kiri

"you've gotta hope
It's gonna be alright"

or one I have been using lately

I'm alive here
I can survive dear
tho the weather might change
from the wind to the rain
still my heart remains the same"

Hang in there kiddo!

Message: 13734 Posted: Fri Sep 29 20:03:42 2000 By: kiri
Subject: good news/bad news

good news - i don't have to listen to muzak any more. bad news - it's because i got laid off today. doesn't pay to complain, does it!....any inspirational america lyrics i can fall back on?

Message: 13733 Posted: Fri Sep 29 19:38:54 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: hey Johnny

you have to get out more often!

Message: 13732 Posted: Fri Sep 29 19:34:35 2000 By: Rick Bolling
Subject: Re: C O N T E S T..... INCENTIVE .....PLEASE

Howard, I'm finishing up a tape this weekend and I'll get to ya soon!


Message: 13731 Posted: Fri Sep 29 19:08:13 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: My dilemma and other stuff

Alright Alan! Enjoy!!! Besides "Muskrat Lunch," I think you should be singing, "I Like Mike". Now that's a partner who's looking out for his buddy!

Robyn, DIY? I would "do it myself" but remember? I live in the state known as "The Land of Entrapment". Oops, I mean, "The Land of Enchantment". LOL! Besides, based on my average, I'm not due for another America concert until 2008. :0 (

Message: 13730 Posted: Fri Sep 29 18:11:39 2000 By: Randy
Subject: To Jim R.

I just replied to your e-mail that you sent me today. Give me a call anytime or I'll check back here at the chat folder occasionally.

Message: 13729 Posted: Fri Sep 29 13:57:49 2000 By: Alan
Subject: My dilemma and other stuff

Hey Johnny and Steve,

You're supposed to be talking me into ditching the gig and going to America fer cryin' out loud! What kind of America fans are you, anyway? (LOL)

Anyway, turns out that I just talked to my partner Mike and he already told them we couldn't play because he knew how much I wanted to go see America AND they have enough other bands signed up that it will be easy enough to fill in our time slot. So we didn't leave anyone in a lurch. Besides, we've played for the Children's Miracle Network a number of times before and we will again. You're right Johnny, it's a great cause and I'm happy to lend my talents for it whenever possible (that way I don't have to feel guilty about not making a monetary contribution). When Mike and I complete our CD of original songs, we plan to sell them at these fund-raisers and donate a portion of the proceeds to CMN as well.

As far as Mohegan Sun, Steve: That's where I first saw America again after 20 years and I would LOVE to go, but it's a Sunday and I have to get up VERY early for work Monday morning. It is an extremely nice venue, though. Not a bad seat in the place. Just get there at least 2-3 hours early if you're going.

Nina, looks like I'll see you there Saturday afternoon. Anyone else going?

Howard, my schedule is soooooo busy, I'll be pushing the October 31 deadline, but I will DEFINITELY get you some songs. I've already talked to Joe B. about recording his parody "Muskrat Lunch" and I'm going to try very hard to get that done in time to submit (plus a few serious America covers).



"Chill 'em or grill 'em or fry 'em
Homemade 'cause you can't go and buy 'em
In milk because they won't lose their crunch
Eating Muskrat Lunch" -Joe B.

Message: 13728 Posted: Fri Sep 29 12:43:51 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: To Johnny

Uh Johnny, sounds like a DIY project to me-- You should have gone to Plano ( roflmho)

Message: 13727 Posted: Fri Sep 29 12:20:41 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: C O N T E S T..... INCENTIVE .....PLEASE

John, I'm hoping you will perform "Jody".

Hey Robyn, you know that Tin Man doll that's missing Gerry's autograph? Well, you'll be seeing Gerry on Sunday and with Fed Ex and today being Friday....just kidding!!

John's statement, "It won't be pretty but...", reminds me of a song written and performed by a local 80's Albuquerque band called, The Planets. It consisted of 4 guys and a "prissy" Denise Brissey. They wrote and performed a song called, "You Might Be Pretty". I've always like it. Here are the lyrics as best I can recall:

You might be pretty but you're not nice
You might be pretty but you're not nice

Hey babe you think you got it made with a look
But this is one sugar mama that won't get took
You are so sure I'm gonna be your lover
But I don't read a book just because of the cover

And you think your big brown eyes are gonna give me a thrill
But I see you use those same brown eyes on every other girl
And the other night with my best friend, I saw it when you kissed her
Man you are cold, you even moved in on my sister

You might be pretty but you're not nice
You might be pretty but you're not nice

I'm gonna listen to my mama, gonna take her advise
Don't wanna talk about it, no need to think twice
So honey you might think handsome makes a hero
To my way of thinking you just add up to a zero

You might be pretty but you're not nice
You might be pretty but you're not nice

(You now see why they never made the big-time. LOL)

Message: 13726 Posted: Fri Sep 29 11:04:06 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: C O N T E S T..... INCENTIVE .....PLEASE

I will send in a soon as i get my keyboard back. I took it over to a friend's house a while ago and haven't had time to pick it up. It won't be pretty but....


Message: 13725 Posted: Fri Sep 29 11:03:24 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Beckley-Lamm-Wilson signing

Any other LA area fans planning on going to the signing on Sunday? It would be great to meeet if anyone else is planning on being there. DD and I are planning on going.

See you there! (Let me know if anyone wants to meet beforehand)

Message: 13724 Posted: Fri Sep 29 10:50:13 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Ah, youth

Funny how we still call it "dialing" although we no longer dial but punch buttons!

BTW, I am sure my teenage daughter could figure out how to use ANY telephone!

Message: 13723 Posted: Fri Sep 29 10:41:59 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Ah, youth

Jim, that was interesting. That reminds me of something I heard not long ago. Someone doing a study on children around the age of six, I believe, placed a rotary phone in a room full of kids and told them to make a phone call. None of the children knew how to operate the phone since they had no previous exposure. They only knew how to operate a push button phone. The researcher said kids should be taught how to use a rotary phone in case that's the only phone available during an emergency. I know...probably more information then you care to know. LOL!

No answer
At numbers I have dialed
I hear the call of the wild

(Gerry's "Call Of The Wild")

Message: 13722 Posted: Fri Sep 29 10:02:47 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Florida Concert Info

Thanks for the info, Lori.

Message: 13721 Posted: Fri Sep 29 09:18:12 2000 By: Lori from Boca
Subject: Florida Concert Info

for the
AMERICA concert 8 p.m. Nov 10
at Carefree Theatre
2000 S. Dixie HWY WPB
Call 561-833-7305

Hope to see all the Florida fans there!

Message: 13720 Posted: Fri Sep 29 08:51:59 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Leaky Canoe's Idea...A Good One!...I AGREE!

Bill, Maybe we'll do just that. Maybe people feel too
pressured to do this and we're scaring potential participants away?
Maybe ixnay the contest idea of competing (America Olympics?) and just have fun and let everyone try to guess who that song/medley

Message: 13719 Posted: Fri Sep 29 07:50:59 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: C O N T E S T..... INCENTIVE .....PLEASE


Message: 13718 Posted: Fri Sep 29 07:50:16 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: Contest thoughts

….sorry Beech…you actually missed…….however you managed to put another hole in my canoe….

Anyway regarding the contest…..Howard says he has only received 3 tapes…..maybe we need to look at this as something other then a contest…..lets say that this is a way to have fun and record an interpretation of our favorite America song…approach it not as a contest to showcase guitar, keyboard, or vocal talent…but an outlet for creativity and fun……for example take a cheap tape recorder along with a kazoo step inside the bathroom and close the door…..I would love to hear “Lonely People” on Kazoo……for you teachers maybe you can get your kids to sing “Horse” in the class room……and most of all Matt…please record a millennium rendition of one of your dad’s songs!!!…..we are all winners because we have a resource of so many great songs to choose from….maybe we don’t even have a winner……..maybe we just enjoy the crazy fun stuff that we can create….

Anybody have any other ideas ?….

(Jim, after that I do feel my age)

Message: 13717 Posted: Fri Sep 29 07:19:09 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Ah, youth

I usually wouldn't post typical e-mail humor (especially when every piece of humor must have been read an average of 20 times by everyone on the planet), but this one was recently updated and has some relevance. Let's just say I liked no. 10. -- Jim R.


Each year, the staff at Beloit College in Wisconsin puts together a list to try to give the faculty a sense of mindset of that year's incoming freshmen. Here's this year's list:

The people who are starting college this fall across the nation were born in 1982.

1. They were 11 when the Soviet Union broke apart and do not remember the Cold War.
2. They have never feared a nuclear war.
3. They are too young to remember the space shuttle blowing up.
4. Atari predates them, as do vinyl albums. The expression "you sound like a broken record" means nothing to them.
5. They have likely never played Pac Man and have never heard of Pong.
6. They have always had an answering machine.
7. Most have never seen a TV set with only 13 channels; nor have they seen a black & white TV.
8. Jay Leno has always been on The Tonight Show.
9. They don't know who Mork was or where he was from.
10. Kansas, Chicago, Boston, America, and Alabama are all places, not groups.

Message: 13716 Posted: Fri Sep 29 06:34:48 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: shot

..may I rest in peace...
"Hell's on fire, heaven's freezin'
And I love you beechlady without good reason"

Message: 13715 Posted: Fri Sep 29 04:54:40 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Shooting.......

Ok, Leaky, consider yersef SHOT....roflmao


TkH<-------just back from an evening with a 13 year old at the mall....S-I-G-H (do Aunt Annies pretzels really digest?)

Message: 13714 Posted: Thu Sep 28 17:52:29 2000 By: Cathy
Subject: chat?

Anyone planning on chatting tonight?

Message: 13713 Posted: Thu Sep 28 17:41:18 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re: Jo Jo Gunn

Dan...also didnt Mark Andes play with Heart for a couple of albums?

Jim R. you asked for it......Muskrat Muzak

Muskrat Muzak, Muskrat lull
Playing everyday at the shopping mall
frequent repeats
shopping becomes so sweet

And its cheap, and its soft, so I relax
its makin’ me spend all by reflex
looking to buy a new Rolex
Must be a subliminal reflex

Nibbling on candy, lickin’ thier lips
Sammy says to Susie "Honey, would you please buy some popcorn’?"
And she say yes
and I’m buyin’

And its cheap, and its soft, so I relax
its makin’ me spend all by reflex
looking to buy a new Rolex
Must be a subliminal reflex

La da da da da ...

(you can shoot me now)

Message: 13712 Posted: Thu Sep 28 17:29:29 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: A Few Things

First of all, I plan on going to Mohegan--want to know if there are any plans to meet there. Also, I went by the BB King Blues club the other day -it looks really nice and it is on a first come fist basis for seating so I plan on going there as well and getting there early. I got a surprise in the mail today. An 8 track tape of the America album. My friend from Ohio picked it up from an Antique store (not to say that America is anything close to Antique). I can't wait to have Dewey and Gerry sign it and put it along side by other America memorabilia.

Message: 13711 Posted: Thu Sep 28 16:52:18 2000 By: daisyjane64
Subject: Topsfield Fair and Mohegan Sun

Iwill be attending both days at Topsfield and will also be at Mohegan Sun.Looking forward to seeing fellow America fans from chat folder. Lisa

Message: 13710 Posted: Thu Sep 28 16:22:54 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Alan's Situation

Alan, I'm afraid I have to agree with Johnny ... the commitment you made should be fulfilled. Maybe it would be worth driving to the Mohegan Sun the next day. It's a long drive but a free concert. Good luck!

Message: 13709 Posted: Thu Sep 28 16:02:25 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Jo Jo G. and Alan's Situation

I too remember the name, "Jo Jo Gunne". Dan, didn't Jay Ferguson have a hit in the late seventies called, "Thunder Island"? That's all that I remember of either.

Alan, you poor guy! If I were in your shoes, even as much as I'd LOVE to see Gerry and Dewey perform, I'd fulfill the commitment that you made. It's for a wonderful cause as you know. Plus, it would be the right thing to do, IMHO.

Message: 13708 Posted: Thu Sep 28 15:53:02 2000 By: Nina
Subject: Janice/Alan

Janice...How cute! I remember teaching 7 year olds...You get lots of hugs and great "teacher" presents at Christmastime! I love the "gently and slowly" punch! In Grade 6, we get the real knock down, drag-em-out kind of punches. The rule of thumb is...send the one on the ground to the nurse, and the one still standing to the principal's office!

Alan...I sent you a long e-mail about a week ago, but you never received it! I contacted your brother and he gave me your "new" e-mail address so I'll send you one over week-end. Yes, I'm still planning on attending Topsfield Fair. My sister and her hubby think they're doing me a favor by driving (because I'm always driving zillions of miles ,alone ,to see America), but because they have small children...they are limiting me to only one show, the afternoon one. I don't have the heart to tell them that it's killing me to NOT be able to stay for the night show! (There's never TOO much America, is there?) Anyway, I'll probably miss alot of Chat Folder buddies that are coming in just for the later show...but I'm going to Mohegun Sun the very next maybe I'll see them there. Is that an option for you...Connecticut the next day? It COULD be the solution you're looking for. Probably too much of a drive from Maine though?

Message: 13707 Posted: Thu Sep 28 15:13:26 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Piped-in music

I mentioned earlier that I work part-time at a K-B Toys (one of those national toy chains in malls) that uses Muzak. I should elaborate. Broadly speaking, Muzak is a music service catering toward businesses that are generally looking for background music. Muzak isn't, strictly speaking, only that super-soft instrumental music (elevator music) that you think of when anyone says "Muzak." However, that's one of the options available from Muzak. In addition to the virtually subliminal stuff, Muzak also provides digitally recorded, original songs on custom disks. (They look like commercial CDs, but you can't play them on your own player and you can't use normal CDs in Muzak's player, for some reason.) It's off one of these discs at K-B that I regularly hear "Sister Golden Hair" (with Gerry's vocals and America's instruments) played. I'm sure Muzak also provides digital signals for businesses or venues who don't want to be bothered changing disks or who want an endless supply of music without frequent repeats.

Supposedly, the music selected is supposed to have some measured effect on its listeners. The stuff in malls is supposed to make people want to shop more, though I have no idea how they figure that stuff out. All I know that after this talk about Muzak, I suddenly want to shop til I drop. Must buy America CD. Gotta go.

Jim R.
(Hey, how 'bout Muskrat Muzak?)

Message: 13706 Posted: Thu Sep 28 15:06:31 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: Barstow/Kind of a morbid story..but true!

Barstow reminds me of the time I locked my keys in the car at a restop near Barstow when I moved to LA for my first job out of college ("Living hand to mouth"). Within 15 minutes strangers showed up with a hanger and I was back on my way. Like SteveL, Barstow is a welcome sight after driving from Utah to LA across the desert.

But when going the other way, LA to Utah, I would get an early start and relate to the lines:
"Sunrise out on the freeway in the morning
Meeting you as the day is dawning"

After Barstow it's a long hot drive across the desert to Utah.

h and

Sunrise out on the freeway in the morning
Meeting you as the day is dawning

Message: 13705 Posted: Thu Sep 28 15:05:11 2000 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Jo Jo Gunn

Good job. The name was Run Run Run but it was around 72. I've got the album, yes the vinyl record. That band also featured Jay Ferguson who later had a hit with Shakedown Cruise. The bass player was Mark Andes of future Firefall fame. DanC.

Message: 13704 Posted: Thu Sep 28 14:50:35 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: Jo Jo Gunn

Jo Jo Gunn yes I remember!!!...there was a song I liked by them....I just cant remember the name of the song....I dont think it was Barstow Blue Eyes....I believe it was back in 1974.....was it "do do do, do do do do do do, run run run "...."you better".....something like that....

(yes it is time for a Johnny fix!)

Message: 13703 Posted: Thu Sep 28 14:29:35 2000 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: Re: Piped-in music

Maybe this will anwer your question.

It could be from a couple of sources. Perhaps the cable company there has a digital music service that they subscribe to. There is also a service that is just beginning called Sirius Music. It's a satellite delivered service that enables you to get your favorite musical genre delivered to you 24/7 sans commercials in your home or your car. In fact, I think Ford and/or GM is going to offer it as an option in the next year or so. This service will eventually provide hundreds of uninterrupted commercial free music channels of virtually every type of music.

Message: 13702 Posted: Thu Sep 28 14:24:44 2000 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: Re: showcase of the southland

Anyone remember an early 70's band named Jo Jo Gunne? They did a song called "Barstow Blue Eyes" on their first album.

Message: 13701 Posted: Thu Sep 28 14:23:15 2000 By: dofd
Subject: showcase of the southland

I believe the Barstow Chamber of Commerce started the "Showcase of the Southland" thing because of the large outlet mall on I-15 coming into town from Las Vegas. Odds are, however, if you're driving that way from Vegas you don't have any money to spend and are indeed, as Gerry sang, "living hand to mouth."

Another song about Barstow was done by the, ahem, legendary group "Spinal Tap." One of the lyric is: "You know where you stand in a hell hole."

Message: 13700 Posted: Thu Sep 28 14:06:20 2000 By: Dan
Subject: new topic?

I need a Johnny fix. Its been since like Monday. LOL. Johnny should be good for a new topic don't ya think? DanC.

Message: 13699 Posted: Thu Sep 28 13:46:14 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Topsfield Fair

I posted this query a week or so ago with no response, so here goes again - anyone out there going to see America at the Topsfield Fair a week from Saturday? Nina are you still planning on going?

I think it would be really fun to meet some fellow "chatters" at the show, but I have this dilemma. I was asked to play a charity gig at the local Wal-Mart with my band (duet, actually) for the Children's Miracle Network. Thinking it was going to be the 14th, I agreed.

I found out about a week ago that is actually on the 7th - same day as America! See, I've been planning this America show for MONTHS now, but I did agree to play. My moral dilemma is this: can I justify backing out on a commitment on the basis that I had made plans to see America long before I made this commitment?

Believe me, I would rather go see America any day, but I can't quite bring myself to cancel because of a sense of obligation. And the longer I wait to back out, the more guilty I feel about doing it. I'm very interested in what you good folks think (and of course, whether any of you will be attending).



Message: 13698 Posted: Thu Sep 28 13:32:05 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Piped-in music

Hey everyone,

I was just reading the posts about muzak when what should I hear on our piped-in music speaker but Daisy Jane! The bank where I work has this black box with digital music and a bunch of different channels for different genres of music. It's not muzac, it's the real thing. I'm not really sure how it works, whether it's all stored within the unit digitally or if a signal is received in from somewhere. I just know there are no commercials or voices. Anyone familiar with this technology?

Message: 13697 Posted: Thu Sep 28 13:09:53 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Everything you wanted to know about Barstow and...?

Check this site out
and let's all pack our bags and
have a America reunion and meet in the dead center of town
and sing 20 choruses of Barstow...Barstow....LOL

Message: 13696 Posted: Thu Sep 28 12:31:55 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Barstow/Kind of a morbid story..but true!

My van broke down near Barstow during my trip to California this summer - that's what I think of when I hear "Barstow". A three letter word to describe Barstow would be "HOT". As a kid growing up my parents would travel back and forth between Utah and California quite often and it seems like we always stopped in Barstow. There was a McDonalds at the offramp in the center of town and we almost always stopped there to eat. So, after driving through the barren desert for mile after mile, Barstow was somewhat of a relief (does that make it a showcase of the southland?).

Message: 13695 Posted: Thu Sep 28 12:15:04 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Barstow/Kind of a morbid story..but true!

Ever BEEN to Barstow Howard? The Joad Family wouldn't even live there! I do believe Gerry's tongue was firmly in cheeck when he dubbed it "Showplace of the Southland' ( that IS what he called it, isn't it?--lol)

Message: 13694 Posted: Thu Sep 28 11:50:10 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Barstow/Kind of a morbid story..but true!

This past weekend, I was watching either E! or VH1 with the lovely story about Sam Kinnison. And interesting that right before he was
killed, he took off from the town of Barstow! Eeery huh?
Just what is their to do in Barstow these days???????????

Message: 13693 Posted: Thu Sep 28 08:52:52 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Dan's New Christmas CD

Dan has a CD out for Christmas. It has traditional carols on it plus "The Star" (his own writing); all instrumentals with steel drums and marimbas done with a Caribbean island flavor.

It will be available very shortly on: which links to the 7-Mile Entertainment web-site store

Message: 13692 Posted: Thu Sep 28 05:30:43 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: America video

I think one of the best is the DVD, currently available from Amazon is AMERICA, THE BEST OF MUSIKLADEN. A live show (but w/no audience) done in Germany around 1975. I think the Steve's Web page features some info on it. It features some songs w/variations that were not in the original recording. It is highly recommended. AMERICA at their very best.

Message: 13691 Posted: Thu Sep 28 05:03:08 2000 By: MikeC
Subject: America video

Can anyone tell me where I can get America concerts on video, such as the 1998 Equador show? Thanks!!!!

Message: 13690 Posted: Thu Sep 28 04:39:15 2000 By: MikeC
Subject: America video

Can anyone tell me where I can get America concerts on video, such as the 1998 Equador show? Thanks!!!!

Message: 13689 Posted: Thu Sep 28 03:11:15 2000 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: Re: muzak!

That should be MUZAK...not music! That's what you get for trying to type on 5 hours sleep 8>)

Message: 13688 Posted: Thu Sep 28 03:10:13 2000 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: Re: muzak!

Fortunately where I work I don't have to endure Muzak. However, I'm noticing fewer and fewer places using music...most opting for the "real thing." I can't tell you how many times I've heard "Sister Golden Hair" over sound systems at restaurants and stores. But on the subject of background music, I have to mention the day I was at my neighborhood mega supermarket and I heard "The Word" by the Beatles! THAT really made my day.

Message: 13687 Posted: Wed Sep 27 21:31:15 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Friday night

Okay, I'm gearing up for our guys Friday night at Humphrey's, outside, on the bay, in San Diego.
I'm hoping (requesting, pleading, etc.) that Gerry will play "All My Life" as we will be there celebrating our anniversary the following week, and recall this is close to his and Kathy's anniversary date too.
Who else will be there? I'm expecting to see JimN and Matt. Windwave, did you get tickets? Anyone else?
ShariL <><

Message: 13686 Posted: Wed Sep 27 20:57:31 2000 By: Erin
Subject: new topic

Van Go Gan. Listened to it all day today. Just wanted to say again how much I love it. Every single song....

Erin :o)

Message: 13685 Posted: Wed Sep 27 20:57:00 2000 By: kiri
Subject: muzak!

when i started my new job, i sort of got a kick out the muzak because it was like a guessing game. now? i find myself cringing at queen, the stones, the DOORS!, etc. played with...exactly how do they make muzak? although i have heard sister golden hair, horse, ventura highway and even young moon - that was nice. i've started playing america cds and the like on my desk computer just to keep my mind from melting pleasantly away. i know this is a boring topic but is anyone else subjected to this "elevator music" 8 hours a day there a therapy group for it? :)

Message: 13684 Posted: Wed Sep 27 16:39:02 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re: too quiet

muskrat charlie, muskrat sam living together in this corrupted land, and they giggle,I say it aint legal..... o never mind...we could go on with this forever...I guess i have heard enough of muskrats also....what a great day to start a new topic......who's first

Message: 13683 Posted: Wed Sep 27 16:12:57 2000 By: Janice
Subject: re: Too quiet..

Nina, it's just that everyone (besides you and I) are busily composing muskrat lyrics to post..
Since you are a teacher I will share an "off post" with you..(nobody can else can read this, now!)..Ronnie (7) got his name on the board today and his teacher had him write a note home to telling me what he did.."Mommy..I got my name on the board because I gently and slowly punched Tim." Ronnie is only a little over 3' he must have gently punched Tim in the kneecap.

Message: 13682 Posted: Wed Sep 27 15:11:52 2000 By: Nina
Subject: ...a little TOO quiet!

My goodness, it's unusually quiet today on this chat folder! One POSTING?! What's going on? I COULD be correcting papers right now...but I'm looking for a diversion! JOHNNY...IS THIS YOUR FAULT??? (Maybe all the muskrats are dead and we're having a moment of silence?)

Message: 13681 Posted: Wed Sep 27 09:35:45 2000 By: Janice
Subject: re:muskrats

Alright, guys..I'm riled! Now you do realize that we have devoted several days to muskrat jibber jabber..(keep it up and I will be forced to go "off topic" which I do on purpose just to annoy everyone.. :-)
Great lyrics Leaky..I'll bet you burned the midnight oil thinkin' that up..such talent on this board, you know??

Message: 13680 Posted: Tue Sep 26 14:36:15 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re: muskrats

...Ill help rile them up....I like the original also....

Message: 13679 Posted: Tue Sep 26 12:34:31 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: re: muskrats

I love it, Bill. Maybe it's because I'm a computer programmer, who knows? Of course, I still like the original better (I had to say that to get Kevin and Janice - my two good friends - riled up).

Message: 13678 Posted: Tue Sep 26 11:04:11 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re: muskrats

Robot Susie, Robot Sam
Caught a love bug out in computer land
And believe me
It's such a pity

And they crash and they burn and they crumble
Failing to run all is jumbled
Crashing from a virus infection
It looks like virus detection

Nibbling up sound bites chewin' up bits
Sammy says to Susie "Honey, would you please do my processin’?"
And she say yes
But I’m crashin’

And they crash and they burn and they crumble
Failing to run all is jumbled
Crashing from a virus infection
It looks like virus detection

La da da da da ...

...sorry I had to take a stab at it.......

Message: 13677 Posted: Tue Sep 26 09:38:07 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: CONTEST D - E - A - D - L - I - N - E !!!

Tom, click on the following link to read the contest rules.

Message: 13676 Posted: Tue Sep 26 08:30:29 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Tune your guitars--->Contest

Hey, all you America guitarists...
I bought a tunning device last year and never used it
up until a couple of months ago. I believe it's a GT Tuner.
And the way you know your guitar is tuned is by the dot
in the middle lights up green. If the dots to right/left light up it's either too low/high. After it's all tuned up,
the guitar sounds amazingly great. My guitar hasn't sounded
this great since I got it (1972 Yamaha and 1980's Takamine 12 string). Can't afford a Taylor yet. I've never appropriately tuned my guitar like this before! Keep practicing and keep those tapes
coming. HAVE FUN!!

Message: 13675 Posted: Tue Sep 26 06:51:56 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: Contest Rule Number 9 section C

Contest Rule Number 9 section C - It is OK to use Parody lyrics if one records Muskrat Looove......

Message: 13674 Posted: Tue Sep 26 04:54:19 2000 By: Pat B.
Subject: Jeff Larson's Room For Summer

Hey JoeB;

I completely agree with you. My first impression of Jeff's Room For Summer was luke warm. But after repeated listenings, it has definitely grown on me. It's not as ear-catching as Watercolor Sky however, but still a respectable follow up effort. My favorite track is "Lot To Learn". I find myself pressing the repeat button on that one.

Message: 13673 Posted: Mon Sep 25 22:53:34 2000 By: Joe B
Subject: Re: Regarding Muskrats


I believe a complete set of "Muskrat" parody lyrics was previously posted on this web site. What's going on here??? Parody plagiarism?

Joe B

P.S. After hearing Jeff Larson's "Room For Summer" once, I thought it was very good. Upon further review, it RULES!! Sounds better every listen.
P.P.S. "Sheltering Sky", as previously reported, is awesome!
P.P.P.S. "Stereo" - often overlooked, but incredible tune!
P.P.P.P.S. Goodye...I've run out of superlatives.

Message: 13672 Posted: Mon Sep 25 17:01:15 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: wow...check this out.....Woods & Wilson

..this weekend I ran across a guy from a recording studio in Hemet California.....he told me of an Album that featured Michael Woods and Carl it the part titled "the story" or

Message: 13671 Posted: Mon Sep 25 16:13:03 2000 By: Tom T.
Subject: Re: CONTEST D - E - A - D - L - I - N - E !!!

Sorry I've been out of touch- please give me the info regarding the CONTEST. The guys were FANtastic on Regis!!! Thanks

Message: 13670 Posted: Mon Sep 25 16:09:23 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: A "wahooo" moment

Just out of impulse, I checked the concert schedule on the America Fans Page to see if there were any other updates.

Bingoooo! America in concert, May 3, 2001, at Potawatomi Bingo Casino (opening this fall in its heavily remodeled format) in Milwaukee. So far, it's the only date showing up on 2001's calendar. Yay. (I know, I know, all dates and times are subject to change, but don't have a Rainy Day on my parade. The muskrat's on me, for free.)

Jim R.

Message: 13669 Posted: Mon Sep 25 16:02:03 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Regarding Muskrats-Jim R



TkH<----------142!!!!!!!! (C=

Message: 13668 Posted: Mon Sep 25 15:56:23 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re: tulips

...o yes Tiny Tim.....and after you hear my recording you shall shoot me and I shall be pushing up tulips......

..why doesnt someone record Muskrat Loooooove....with new lyrics of course......

Message: 13667 Posted: Mon Sep 25 15:37:06 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Regarding Muskrats

Sing to familiar melody:

Muskrat, muskrat
In candlelight.
Turn 'em over
and cook 'em right.
In the evening,
tasting mighty pleasin'

Jim R.
(check with your doctor to see if muskrat is high in cholesterol.)

Message: 13666 Posted: Mon Sep 25 14:19:27 2000 By: Janice
Subject: and Leaky...

You remember Tiny he's pushin' up those tulips that he used to tiptoe through....

Message: 13665 Posted: Mon Sep 25 14:17:04 2000 By: Janice
Subject: my last few words (actully 9 words) about the rodents.

I knew there was something I liked about Brad.

Message: 13664 Posted: Mon Sep 25 12:20:08 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: More Muskrat "luv"

I think the most potent evidence against Muskrat Love is the fact that Dewey and Gerry don't perform it anymore.

That's true, Mark, but there are other good songs that they don't perform anymore either ("Hope", "Young Moon", just to name a couple). By the way, before a concert in 1996 I was talking to Gerry about "Muskrat Love" and asked him why they didn't play it anymore. He said that when Brad joined the band he made them promise that they wouldn't play it. I don't know if Gerry was just joking or if that was the truth, but that's what he told me. The interesting thing is that during the concert something happened where they had to fix some equipment and there was a delay in the show. Gerry started playing the opening strains to "Muskrat Love" as he was waiting. I wish the delay would have been longer ... maybe he would have played the whole thing!

I've never worried too much about the lyrics to the song. The way America performs the song it's much more than a song about a couple of rodents ... but that's just my opinion.

Hey, I just figured out why they don't play it in concert anymore ... it's Johnny's fault (LOL)!

Message: 13663 Posted: Mon Sep 25 11:32:58 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: More Muskrat "luv"

LOL! Well I know who Gerry and Dewey should call if they ever get writer's block and need some lyrics in a hurry!

I think the most potent evidence against Muskrat Love is the fact that Dewey and Gerry don't perform it anymore. Nuff said.

Message: 13662 Posted: Mon Sep 25 11:18:13 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: More Muskrat "luv"

Muskrat, muskrats
Lots of tripe
Listening to "ToeNail"
Sure does bite!
Do hear me?
Her stylings a catastrophe!

And she croaks and emotes
like a mango,,,,,,

Singin' and jingling
a jango

As gaudy as Michael Jackson's glove
it looks like Muskrat Loooooooooove....

Gee do I need to go to an anger management type class? Maybe I need to buy a punching bag........MAYBE I just need a dose of positive energy....lololol


(sorry to all you Capn' fans...)

Message: 13661 Posted: Mon Sep 25 10:19:18 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re: contest deadline

....please send in your tapes.....I am far from a musician and I sent a tape in (I figure I can't be any worse then Tiny Tim) Howard said "lets have some fun".....

Message: 13660 Posted: Mon Sep 25 09:32:25 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Regarding Muskrats

We're Muskrat Susie and Muskrat Sam
Hoping we don't become Muskrat Spam

Gerry, Dewey, & Dan, they understood
But the Captain and Toe Nail did us no good

Don't roast us or toast us would you please
We're just furry little rodents on wobbly knees

Yes, we nibble on bacon and we chew on cheese
We don't carry the plague or any disease

Let us keep floatin' on the heavens above
You have yours, we just want muskrat love.

La da da da da da...

Message: 13659 Posted: Mon Sep 25 05:40:38 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: CONTEST D - E - A - D - L - I - N - E !!!

Hi everyone. Been so busy lately. Apology for not getting back
to some people. The deadline for the America fans music
contest is October 31st!!! I've only received 3 tapes so
far and they sound alot of fun.
Shame on all of you musicians out there.
Now's the time to be heard.

Message: 13658 Posted: Mon Sep 25 05:23:40 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: The Muskrat Fight (Fun) Song

The Muskrat Fight (Fun) Song

Musket Kevin, Musket Jan
Do the muskrat war out in Ramsey land
Givin’ a zang on the keyboard
Soaring like the war birds above
It looks like Muskrat war.

Muskrat Lowry, Muskrat Fans
Do the defense dance down in Muskrat Land
Taken’ a zing on the PC screen
Floating like the kiddies at home
Looks like muskrat fun.

Message: 13657 Posted: Sun Sep 24 18:02:52 2000 By: Brad
Subject: Re: America video

That 96 video is from a hand held video recorder. It is not bad, Green Monkey and Sandman rock, but the Equador 98 tape is a lot better quality.


Message: 13656 Posted: Sun Sep 24 08:41:07 2000 By: Pat B.
Subject: Re: Regarding Muskrats


I hope you don't mind if I write a 2nd verse to your song:

>> I like Muskrats
>> They like me
>> I like Sam
>> And I like Suzie
>> Floating like the heaven's above
>> Why can't everyone like Muskrat Love?


Message: 13655 Posted: Sun Sep 24 08:02:39 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Janice and Barney

Um, sorry I put him in a title with you Ms.

I came up with my own version of the Barney song, but my last minute editing (i.e. TERY HOLLY RATINGS MACHINE)prevented my

TkH<------hub home TODAY!!!! I'm not a Baseball widow anymore!!!!!!!

Message: 13654 Posted: Sun Sep 24 08:01:47 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: Steve's history... and mine

Thanks Steve and America Fans. I was glad to find and America with pictures after I got hourglass. But since they were a bit stagnant I didn't return very often, and remained a lonely America Fan.

Then the credits on Human Nature led me to The America Fans site. The lyric, chord, and what’s new pages kept me coming back, cause listening to America just gives me that urge to sing and play along. It was like the days when I would go out and buy the songbooks to go along with the albums all over again. The lyric and chord pages were the goldmine for me, since I’m more into the music then the men behind the music (i.e. Pictures, signatures, etc). Thanks for the transcriptions. Your page is now the base for me, and I use your links to those other good pages (Dan Peek, RockandRoll, Ike, RickW, etc)

I lurked in the chat folder for a while, then I started posting. Now I’m into the Fans behind the music. Thanks to all you great Fans across the globe I’m no longer the lonely America Fan.

Message: 13653 Posted: Sun Sep 24 06:08:57 2000 By: Janice
Subject: more this and that....

Yes, Eddy..thanks..that would be still have my address? Send an e-mail and thanks for the offer! and Beech..I love your "mindless drive" energy!!
and by the way, I hope that I did not offend anyone with my Muskrat lyrics. My Barney rendition was actually much longer but I didn't want to get evicted from the page by printing it.. :-) email me for the unedited version.

Message: 13652 Posted: Sun Sep 24 06:07:27 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: One last word about Muskrats.


What does it say when your lyrics and Janice's lyrics are more interesting than the lyrics from the song itself? Oh well, I'll let the Muskrat live in peace. Some people's road kill is other people's Sunday dinner.


Message: 13651 Posted: Sun Sep 24 05:53:34 2000 By: Janice
Subject: this and that

Great post Mike..thanks for giving me credit where credit was not due...( just happened upon it and am generally the last one to catch anything, especially before Steve!..and Steve..sorry, but MY Muskrat Love lyrics would begin as (sung to Barney)
"Kevin has been right
all along...
Geez!! (a much stronger word can be substituted)
I really hate that song"!
Sounds like a great concert was enjoyed this weekend!
Back to gardening............Janice

Message: 13650 Posted: Sun Sep 24 05:10:42 2000 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: America video

For whatever it's worth...

On page 66 of the October issue of "Discoveries" magazine is an ad promoting "past and present rare videos" and one of them is an America concert video from Boston that was done in August of '96. It's $19 in US, another $4 for overseas oeders. SASE and other details should be sent to:
Joseph Russo
PO Box 2422
North Babylon, NY 11703-0422

Message: 13649 Posted: Sat Sep 23 21:03:15 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Regarding Muskrats

Sing this song to one of Barney the purple dinosaur's tunes:

I like Kevin
He likes me
But at times we disagree
Muskrat Love is great you see
For the America community

(LOL - sorry, but I couldn't resist)

P.S. Thanks for the great review and the comments about the web site history. I hope you all find it enlightening.

Message: 13648 Posted: Sat Sep 23 20:50:47 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: The return of David Dickey.

Great review Kevin. Did your office mates have a good time as well?

AS to Mrs. Dickey, I believe at this point she prefers to remain "just one of the fans" ( let me know if I am wrong on this one, Mrs. D if you are still talking to me after my anti-muskrat comments--lol)

Message: 13647 Posted: Sat Sep 23 20:38:08 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: What?

Mention??? S/B "moment"!

Message: 13646 Posted: Sat Sep 23 20:36:11 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: The return of David Dickey.

Enjoyed reading your review, Kevin.

A few times, in the past several months, I've logged on to either Wednesday or Thursday night's Live Chat to find Mrs. David Dickey online. I apologize for not recalling her name at this mention.

Message: 13645 Posted: Sat Sep 23 20:24:34 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Steve's "America Fan's Web Site History"

Steve has posted to the "What's New" section, the "America Fan's Web Site History". I found it to be very interesting. You should check it out.

Message: 13644 Posted: Sat Sep 23 20:19:17 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: The return of David Dickey.

Normally I would have said the highlight of tonight's America concert was hearing "Hangover" and "Windwave" live for the first time. Or that the highlight would have been America playing to about 40,000 people on a rolling hillside surrounded by 40 glowing hot air balloons in full splendor. Or that the guys seemed in their usually good spirits with their trademark sense of humor and showmanship in full swing.

But, not tonight.

Because tonight I got to witness the return of David Dickey to America, if only for one song. Early on Gerry Beckley mentioned that their good friend and one-time bass player was back stage enjoying the show. Then, for the encore of Horse With No Name, they brought David Dickey out. He played along side Brad Palmer and it was just great seeing him again. The funniest moment came when both of them went to sing background. Brad Palmer is considerably taller than David Dickey, and the mic was set for Brad. So David had to stetch his neck out really high to reach the mic and Dewey seemed pretty amused by this. Also joining them on stage for the encore was Haily Gauley (I hope I spelled this correctly). Horse had a real festive feel to it.

The concert was, as always, crisp and clean. The crowd was really into it, although the bulk of the 40,000 or so was sitting on a hill pretty far away to hear very well, but with a perfect view of the hot air balloon show and fireworks that followed immediately afterward.

The set list was the same as it has been lately, but it included "Don't Cross The River," which I'm not aware they've been playing. Gerry plugged the box set quite a bit and gave Rhino its due.

Although Gerry said they were going to play "all the old stuff they could remember and a lot of new stuff," they didn't play anything off of Human Nature.

"Sandman" rocked the house and is my pick for song of the night.

There's not much I can add that hasn't been said many times lately about how great they sounded. But the main thing that stood out was their rapport with the crowd. They were really funny. Gerry got a huge laugh when he notied that the 90-degree heat and 90-percent humidity they were playing in was "really refreshing." And as America finished "Tin Man" the huge Tony The Tiger hot air balloon was inflated right next to them, prompting Dewey to say, "You know you've made it when you're sharing the stage with Tony The Tiger."

They were great.


Message: 13643 Posted: Sat Sep 23 18:42:26 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: AMERICA in Dallas


Please tell me all about the show. I looked forward to going, but obviously, Im stuck in bed. I'm seeing the show vicariously through your eyes.


Message: 13642 Posted: Sat Sep 23 18:07:54 2000 By: mBluLight
Subject: Off topic For the SoCal crew

the late Walter Phobicman will be performing at the Belly Up in solona beach, sept 27th, 9:30. $5.00 at the door, or email me for guest list... will be lots of fun, and we're shooting footage for a video, so if you'd like to take part, swing on down. Take care everyone,


Message: 13641 Posted: Sat Sep 23 17:36:06 2000 By: Russ Pratt
Subject: New America influenced band


Message: 13640 Posted: Sat Sep 23 14:06:17 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Concert Tix Available

fyi to anyone who can make the Sun Theatre show. The Sun is a newer venue, on the lot at Anaheim stadium. A beautiful & well thought out venue. And AMERICA will be doing a full set, they are the headliner. This is along w/the San Diego show are great places to see AMERICA. All full sets.

Message: 13639 Posted: Sat Sep 23 13:29:43 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Steve's history lesson

Nicely done, as usual Steve. Thanks for the comprehensive info!

Message: 13638 Posted: Sat Sep 23 12:40:32 2000 By: Candrews
Subject: Concert Tix Available

Hi Everyone: For those of you in the Southen California area I've got two tickets to the 9/30 concert at the Sun Theatre and I won't be able to use them. I paid $79.75 for the pair, if anyone is interested in the tickets, please email me. Thanks!

Message: 13637 Posted: Sat Sep 23 12:27:51 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Post...B'fests

ROFL, Jeff......yeah, it's usually held right after Lilith Fair!!!!!!!!!

TkH<-------gets the hub back in app. 12hours, 32 minutes......sigh

Message: 13636 Posted: Sat Sep 23 08:15:02 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: Post...

Enjoyed Mike B.'s and Beechlady's post. It can be a dog eat dog world sometimes that's for sure. I've never been to a "Bitchfest"...and don't plan on attending one anytime soon.


Message: 13635 Posted: Sat Sep 23 07:30:50 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Chat Folder Impression - My long post

Let me give you all a little lesson on other chat folder/boards......If you've EVER delved into "fandom" in other realms (I did for a while, you'll understand in a minute why I DON'T as a general rule anymore)you'll quickly see why THIS board is an anomoly!!!!

I went into an unnamed board erected for a member of a band a while back (probably about a year ago). I went in to lurk. I saw something I thought I could contribute in terms of the question posted....(REAL INFO, mind you-none of my "mindless drivel").....My post was short, friendly, to the point, VERY factual. WOWZA! Was THAT a mistake or what? Flames abounded (how DARE I post to the sacred FAN board-just WHO did I think I was anyway?)It was like a freakin' bitch fest! If I were a "celebrity" I'd have been EMBARRASSED to have my name connected to something that vile.....sigh.

Now we turn here. This probably one of the ONLY areas of "Fandom" on the net that is Considerate, Fair, Downright Friendly, AND informative! Like Steve said, it's the PEOPLE inhabiting this area that makes it so likeable!!!!! Yeah, sure you get your weirdos every once in a while after all it IS a community and the world is filled with EVERY KIND of person.......but you deal and go on!

To give credit where it is due, though, you have to GO TO the car lot to BUY the CAR.......Steve, indeed you have done us a service! Keep on keeping on! I also enjoyed Rick's site when it was up......V-H.Com/Heartimes is fun also, it's nice to be able to buy stuff, too!

One thing I think Gerry, Dewey and Dan can be proud of is the caliber of people that really love their music!

TkH<-------One more road game/5more to GOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! (C=

Message: 13634 Posted: Fri Sep 22 23:36:15 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: Steve,Howie, Janice!

Hi Guys!
Steve, as allways THANX for this wonderful site & great info, don't know what I'd do without it!
Howie, Is there anykind of deadline on the "tapes"? we laid down a couple of tracks(my friend & I), but haven't got together since, if there is a deadline, will send as is.
Janice, I'm watching my boys this wkend(wife working days) will be able to record the tape for you, I'll try to fill as much as I can on it, have you seen the Henry Diltz program? could include that also if you like.
All for now............

Message: 13633 Posted: Fri Sep 22 20:12:51 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Chat Folder Impression

Hey guys ... you're making me blush. But thanks for the kind words. It is a very satisfying feeling to see how lively the web site and the chat folder are. But it's mostly because of all of you, not me. I just provide the vehicle, you all provide the fuel (I was going to say "gas" but that didn't sound quite right - LOL).

Thanks again, everyone!
--SteveL from 2 states east of California

Message: 13632 Posted: Fri Sep 22 19:55:48 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Chat Folder Impression

Mike, that was a very interesting and impressive summation. That was fun to read.

A slight correction if I may. Everyone who is a fan of America is a PROMINENT fan! No one fan or group of fans is better than the other, but I know you really know this already.

Also, if I may to the tune of "Everyone I Meet Is From California"......"Two Of The Nicest Fans Live Two States East of California"...Mike Bunn and Steve Lowry.

Message: 13631 Posted: Fri Sep 22 17:27:36 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Chat Folder.

Mike: I think Steve IS taking a commission as webmaster, but it's not monitary. It's emotional. Every time someone posts on this wonderful site--whether positive, negative or just plain weird--it's a tribute to what he's created here for us and for America, and Steve profits from it inside. Thanks, Steve.

Here's a few more cents for the collection basket: Because of this site I know America is playing in Dallas tomorrow night and I am bringing my wife and five kids, my sister and her family and a bunch of stupid friends from work who smirk at this old man every time he plays his America CDs or wears his America t-shirt with the classic logo, and I'm going to show them all what having fun with music is all about.


Message: 13630 Posted: Fri Sep 22 13:43:03 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: Chat Folder Impression - long post

I enjoy the America Chat folder. I’ve checked in, off and on, for over a year. Most often I look for those posts by AmericaSL for that next tidbit of news, like the next project by Gerry. In the Spirit of the recent FAQ suggestion here are a few of my impressions/lessons learned attached to some names I remember:

- I’m grateful for the active participation and management of this Fan Web Site (SteveL).

- Most visitors can take a small dose of unrelated posts, but this is the America Chat Folder so don’t spend too much time on side roads (ie. talking about the nature of friendship).

- Some days I get a good laugh (KevinS), some days I find out about updates to (Janice), and days like today are slow.

- I taped the TNN special, and then Regis Live(kiri). Fans love to see America on TV.

- A FAN suggested the Highway name long before the Box set was announced. I found out here that I won a copy of the box set from Rhino (Robyn).

- I enjoy America trivia, along with a clever use of the keyboard (Johnny).

- I've been exposed to other America Fans musical tastes, work, and hobbies (Nina – Dan Fogelberg/teacher/quilts) and found many similar to mine.

- America has many Fans from overseas (Suat, JohnL Margaret). I know some Bands from down under (via Jeff Brink and others). The world is a friendlier place when we get to know each other.

- Some Fans hang out here often with their hyperactive imaginations, interesting keystrokes, bio, and own web page (Beechlady). Some pop in now and again, some have no bio, others vanish.

- Some Fans like America’s Rockers (Lori, Mark), others could do without them.

- I have bought a lot of Dewey, Gerry, and Dan CDs and concert tickets. I’ve enjoyed every listening minute. SteveL should be getting a commission.

- FANS put perspective at the bottom of the America discography (I still don’t have it).

- Many FANS miss Dan Peek (Steve, holiday, etc) as part of America, several others are tired of the subject, and it grates on the nerves of some.

- Some fans are busy trying to figure out how to cover an America song with style, and others have allready done it(Howard).

- I’ve learned that some fans are Prominent, some of us aren’t so prominent, some get jealous, some get flamed, but listening to America puts a smile on all our unequal faces.

- Most of us have an atypical fixation with America (the music and/or the men). Skipping work to record Regis, watching seven concerts in one week, signatures on the whole America discography, etc. :)

- I wonder what some familiar FAN names have been up to (JohnC, RickW, GaryH, etc)

Have a great America weekend - FANS

Mike Bunn

Message: 13629 Posted: Fri Sep 22 04:31:52 2000 By: Pat B.
Subject: Re: Regis Live Photos


Only YOU would notice Gerry's unintentional body language.
How DARE you make sophmoric humor on this quality chat folder!
It's always YOUR fault.
Enough already!

ps; I never laughed so hard! With observant fans such as you, this chat folder continues to be a FUN place! : )

Message: 13628 Posted: Thu Sep 21 20:26:05 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: This and that

Johnny-- If we wait for the muskrats to finish their ciggies, doe that mean we will have SMOKED muskrat?

ANdy-- Th eff-uuu cord, very funny!

After hearing Sheltering sky, I picked up the book by Paul Bowels of the same name ( a classic tale of wandering Americans and the trouble their clueless american behavior gets them into) Does anyone know if the song has anything to do with the book? If not I will have to wait till November when I can ask on Ventura

Message: 13627 Posted: Thu Sep 21 19:56:05 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: My Dear

Johnny has my thoughts about this song figured out. I'm thrilled that My Dear was included on Highway. It certainly took some getting used to, but the song's atmosphere and Gerry's amazing background vocals won me over. Besides, that whole album was my personal soundtrack to being a kid. (So much for objectivity, LOL)


Message: 13626 Posted: Thu Sep 21 18:38:28 2000 By: jeff brink


I agree that SHELTERING SKY is deep. Initially it was my favorite BLW song. ...Would love to hear it live.


Message: 13625 Posted: Thu Sep 21 18:17:42 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: Beckley-Lamm-Wilson


Interesting that you just brought up BLW. I have been listening to it quite a bit lately. I still feel very strongly that Gerry's contributions are head and shoulders above the others and also, I think SHELTERING SKY is one of the deepest songs I have heard GB do in some time. The lyrics are remarkable (especially if you have ever been in a long distance relationship).


Message: 13624 Posted: Thu Sep 21 17:05:04 2000 By: Spurs
Subject: Regis.

Hello everyone,wonderful to see America getting some much deserved publicity on the Regis show,the photos are first class as well.Interesting to note that Gerry will be working on a new solo album for an unknown release date.There was mention that Oxygen were happy to do another project with our chaps but the dust would have to well and truly settle on "Highway" before commencement on a new recording.Just what is it with "My Dear" some of us would like to leave it off the "Highway" set and others left on,I love this tune with rippling piano and strange lyrics it also has terrific atmosphere how perfectly Dewey and Gerry compliment one another.Still busy touring and looking great!!

Message: 13623 Posted: Thu Sep 21 16:40:35 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: Beckley-Lamm-Wilson

The Mandolin sounds great on WATCHING THE TIME. This song has grown on me. ...and so has Go Man Go's SUNRISE SUNSET.

Message: 13622 Posted: Thu Sep 21 16:06:09 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Regis Live Photos

"In photo #2 and #3, I believe Gerry is sending a message to that "Washington Post" critic."

LOL Johnny!!! That was brilliant !!! Take a bow !!
Indeed, there are some chords that give that impression. I call them the "Effyou chords" lol Truthfully, that's more than the Washington Post's reporter deserves :)


Message: 13621 Posted: Thu Sep 21 15:41:09 2000 By: Nina
Subject: Regis Show

I forgot to re-set my VCR and accidentally taped today's Regis show, NOT over yesterday's America show..THANK GOD! Anyway, Regis used an AMERICA question for the viewer call-in portion of the show...(I think the caller won a trip somewhere)...the question was:

"We had the group , America, on our show yesterday and they told us that they made 6 of their albums with famous British producer, George Martin. What other British group did George produce in the sixties?"

So, America gets a little EXTRA television promotion, even when they're not on site! You go, Reege!

Loved hearing "Ventura Highway" and "I Need You" with just acoustic guitars by the way! Did everybody hear co-host Colleen say early on in the show (on Wed.) that she had just been talking to America backstage and they were "soooooo nice?" That's OUR guys!

Message: 13620 Posted: Thu Sep 21 15:40:03 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Regis Live Photos

In photo #2 and #3, I believe Gerry is sending a message to that "Washington Post" critic.

Message: 13619 Posted: Thu Sep 21 15:27:03 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Regis Live Photos And The Inspector

I don't know if anyone else noticed this but in Jim M's first photo which has Regis holding up the "Homecoming" album cover, Regis is also holding "Hearts" in his other hand. However, he didn't mention it nor hold it up. You have to look quickly as he slides "Hearts" behind "Homecoming" before placing them down on the table. Great photos, Jim M.

Jim R, sorry about putting a hit on the Inspector. We all have to go sometime. By the way, before Sam and Susie are snuffed out, I think they should be allowed to at least finish a smoke after muskrat-loving. LOL.

Message: 13618 Posted: Thu Sep 21 15:01:09 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Highway CD's picks and pans

Johnn?! Ax "Inspector Mills" and "James Holliday." !? Am I gonna have to send you another nasty e-mail. Oops, was that out loud?

Jim R.
Controversial closer: The muskrats must die. Get 'em while they're making love.

Message: 13617 Posted: Thu Sep 21 14:55:30 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Highway.

<<The only other thing I would have liked would have been the inclusion of the songs that were released but unavailable on CD: Love Comes Without Warning, and Last Two To Dance, and demo versions (if they exist) of some of the songs from Heard.>>

Oh yeah, what Kevin said. I forgot about that stuff. Add that to my list. Along with "Right Before My Eyes." Oh geez, now I gotta delete some other song. This job sucks. I quit. -- Jim

Message: 13616 Posted: Thu Sep 21 14:48:24 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Highway CD's picks and pans

Marshall, your idea to revisit the topic is appreciated. I wish I hadn't been so busy Tuesday and Wednesday to join in the discussion while it was still fresh.

At the top of the liost, I severely miss "Hope" from the collection. I think "Hourglass" would have been well represented then. Naturally, I would have liked "From a Moving Train" and "Wednesday Morning" from "Human Nature," but I understand that the licensing or rights issue became an unfortunate obstacle.

Predictably, since I've often stated that I like "Hideaway" so much, I don't feel that the songs themselves deserve to be bumped on their own demerits. But I'd give up a song or two from "Hideaway" to squeeze in my above choices. I also miss "The Story of a Teenager" from "Hearts," especially since it was a unique Gerry and Dan collaboration that was initially bound for TV movie fame.

Frankly, in addition to sacrificing a song from "Hideaway," I think Rhino could've backed off one song from "America" and "Hat Trick," though I'm now equally attached to all the ones included. I think "Harbor" was given too much exposure, though "God of the Sun," "Sarah," and "Sergeant Darkness" deserved the light of day again.

The Capitol years are indeed a bit light, but aside from the omission of "Hangover" (which I've always liked, for some strange reason), I really can't say I miss anything there as much as "Hope." The live albums offered nothing new, and I'm glad they were omitted. And I appreciate all the demos and alt mixes, particularly "Watership Down" (beautiful piano) and "James Holliday" (I love that Dan song).

Jim R.

Message: 13615 Posted: Thu Sep 21 14:48:24 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Regis Live Photos

I have posted some photos from the Regis Live Show. Many thanks to Jim Matulevich for making them available. I still haven't had a chance to watch the show (I did record it) but after looking at these photos and reading everyone's reaction, I'm really looking forward to it. If I could just figure out a way to arrange things so I could sit down for an hour and do what I want to do instead of what I have to do!

Message: 13614 Posted: Thu Sep 21 11:28:08 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Dewey and Gerry's Radio Interview This Morning

While browsing through Dan Peek's website today, I read an interesting message posted by a fan. This is what fan, Jay Hill of Missouri, had to say:

"I looked up your site this morning right after listening to your former bandmates interviewed on 550 KTTRS during drivetime this morning. Gerry and Dewey noted that your contribution had been immeasurable. And, they talked about the new boxed set."

Jay talked about some personal things with Dan and Tom (Dan's brother). He also said, "Gerry mentioned that you spend your time between St. Louis and Cayman Islands."

Did anyone else out there hear this interview? If so, do you have anything to add of interest?

Message: 13613 Posted: Thu Sep 21 09:10:59 2000 By: DC
Subject: Thanks

Thank you all for your speedy replies. It's interesting that Amazon lists the title as "Van Go Van"- maybe someone in the know can clue them in! I'm off to do some ordering!

Message: 13612 Posted: Thu Sep 21 08:45:45 2000 By: Janice
Subject: re: Regis

You guyyyeeessss are the bestest...thanks Eddy..that would be fact Jim sent me a clip to download but I couldn't open it..(don't know if it was me or my computer..)..Welcome to the page DC! :-)

Message: 13611 Posted: Thu Sep 21 07:50:06 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: DC.

The answers that were given by Jim and Kevin are right on. Here are some links to the albums so you can read more about them and listen to some sound clips:

Van Go Gan
Go Man Go

Both CD's are also available online from the Heart Times Coffee Cup Equals Lightning Studio Store.


Message: 13610 Posted: Thu Sep 21 06:37:53 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: DC.

Tbis might help you with ordering Van Go Gan. Gerry Beckley released Van Go Gan in Japan in 1996. It sold out and wasn't available again until he purchased the rights to it some time last year. Then he released it with four new bonus tracks, which sounds like the one you saw on Amazon. A few months after he released Van Go Gan with the four bonus tracks, he released Go Man Go, which is the "remake" you were referring to that some people have panned.

It sounds like Amazon has the one you want. My advice is: the sooner you by it, the sooner you can start enjoying it. Van Go Gan is truly a masterpiece.

By the way, Go Man Go isn't bad, it's really pretty interesting. It's just that it's pretty damn hard to compare itself to Van Go Gan.

Hope this helps.


The bonus tracks on Van Go Gan are really interesting. One is an acoustic remake of a song on Van Go Gan called, "Kiss Of Life." Both versions will stop you dead in your tracks. Another track is an excerpt from the song "Playing God" on the CD. On that song, Phil Hartman delivers a sermon in the background as a slimy southern televangelist that's just funny as hell. The bonus track is simply Phil Hartman's voiceover take. Very funny, and, as it turns out, tragic. The other two tracks show how Gerry Beckley came up with the song "Now Sue."

Message: 13609 Posted: Thu Sep 21 06:25:39 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: a question please...

That VAN GO GAN, I believe it is definitely the original solo debut masterpiece by GERRY BECKLEY. Highly recommended. GO MAN GO was the recent release that contained some inspired views of VAN GO GAN.

Message: 13608 Posted: Thu Sep 21 05:29:17 2000 By: DC
Subject: a question please...

Hi Everyone,
I'm an America fan from way back and I've been checking in here from time to time to see what's new with the band but I've never posted before. I was on Amazon just now ordering Highway (can't find it in the stores around here) and I see thay have a CD called "Van Go Van" (import, extra tracks). My question is can anyone tell me whether this CD on Amazon is the original CD everyone raves about or if it is the "remake" that I see some people pan? Thanks for your help- great web site, keep it going!

Message: 13607 Posted: Wed Sep 20 21:22:26 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Regis

and wasn't puff daddy on too? I seem to recall Dewey saying that Gerry was a big fan of puff daddy's , but as it was a print interview, I have no idea whether Dewey was joshing us.

I had to miss it, it was my boss's last day at work, and it would have looked REALLY BAD to call in sick and miss her party. dd watched it ( she's off track right now-- that means this is her summer vacation) she gave them a great review. said they looked and sounded great and they showed some old pictures of Dewey. hope to see the video soon!

Message: 13606 Posted: Wed Sep 20 20:30:25 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Regis

I NEED YOU on 12 string acoustic guitar - what a treat ! very unique.
AMERICA sounds superb as a duo, armed only w/guitars. Voices alone sounded excellent, that is a tough setting to perform w/out the band.
Congratulations to GERRY & DEWEY on such a great performance.

Message: 13605 Posted: Wed Sep 20 20:15:06 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Regis

They looked & sounded GREAT!!
Great promo for the Box set also!
Janice, I could dub you a copy, if no one else has offered, send me an e-mail, & let me know.

Message: 13604 Posted: Wed Sep 20 19:13:16 2000 By: Donna
Subject: Regis

Have always loved the songs I Need You and Sister Golden Hair, but had never followed America that closely until hearing them in concert last July at Myrtle Beach Palace Theatre. Imagine my surprise when watching Regis on Tuesday that America was going to be a guest the very next day! I've listened to alot of the songs here on this website, and am now realizing just how much I've missed over the years. These guys are wonderful musicians!! Also, thanks for this great website!!

Message: 13603 Posted: Wed Sep 20 18:34:43 2000 By: Janice
Subject: re:Regis show..

Drat..I had to work and didn't tape it!
I feel your pain least you got to see the show though..(hey 2 rhyming sentences in a row..I'm on to something here..) I believe (rather, I know) it was 2 years ago this month they did the Today I lay in my hospital bed after undergoing major surgery and missed it even then! I had, however, just seen them 2 weeks prior on my birthday in Shreveport!
Oh well..anyone wanna send me a tape?? :-) Feel better Shayne! (hey it's better than going to work..hmmm..maybe not)

Message: 13602 Posted: Wed Sep 20 18:29:47 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: New Album/Houses in White

I suppose your estimate of release time is fairly accurate Steve. The man has to eat and sleep and stuff like that!

Message: 13601 Posted: Wed Sep 20 16:20:33 2000 By: Thomas
Subject: Re: New Album/Houses in White

Steve, thanks for your information. You are TRULY amazing with what you've done with this website. It's FAR better than any other fan site I've seen.

Message: 13600 Posted: Wed Sep 20 15:55:09 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: New Album/Houses in White

John, it's true that Gerry is working on a new album, but it's a little premature to say that he's coming out with a new album. I'm not aware of any release date because Gerry and Bobby Woods are "working" on the album. The release date will depend on how much time Gerry is able to devote to it and still meet the touring obligations that he has. A good guess would be that it would come out within the next year or two (that's just my opinion).

Message: 13599 Posted: Wed Sep 20 15:39:07 2000 By: Thomas
Subject: New Album/Houses in White

I've been told that Gerry's coming out with a new solo album. I hope that's true. I really liked the VGoGan album. It came at a key time for me because I wasn't a fan of any of the last three America albums and I began to wonder if they'd make anything that I'd really like anymore. There's some incredible stuff on Van Go Gan ("Goodbye Highway", "Emma" and "Kiss of Life"). I hope the new solo project is more like Van Go Gan and not as much like Go Man Go (a little to weird for me). If "Houses in White" is a fair representation, then I think it will be a great album because I've really enjoyed that song. I was a little disappointed in the box set since it didn't have enough of the songs from Alibi on it. They've had some great albums, but perhaps my favorite of all was Alibi. There were some great tunes on that one ("Coastline", "One in a Million", "Could've Been the One", etc.)

Message: 13598 Posted: Wed Sep 20 14:49:12 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: REGIS SHOW

Hope my VCR captured the show at home. has Highway ranked at 74 and History at 112 on todays sales rank. Highest numbers I've seen for America the few times I've checked. Anybody know what the sales ranks mean exactly ? I assume its the piece selling the most units for the Day or some given time period. Barnaked Ladies were 1 last week. I think it's Madonna today.

Message: 13597 Posted: Wed Sep 20 14:35:06 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: REGIS SHOW

It was great how Regis plugged "Highway" as much as he did for Gerry and Dewey. There it was as big as life on a huge screen behind the guys as well as a close-up shot of the booklet on an attractive display stand.

Got a close-up look at Dewey's guitar strap. I thought before it was a camouflage design. I now know it's a desert scene with cacti.

For those that didn't see the show, Gerry and Dewey walked on stage, each with their acoustic guitar. They joined Regis and co-guest, Colleen, (sp?) from the "Survivor" show. They all sat on stools, I believe. Gerry and Dewey played a short version of "I Need You". Everyone chatted. The guys next played "Ventura" to the delight of the audience as the show went to a commercial. After they returned, everyone chatted some more. They ended with "Horse". Great to see D&G on TV. Now we need them on more shows!

Message: 13596 Posted: Wed Sep 20 14:11:57 2000 By: Erin
Subject: Re: REGIS SHOW

Great job guys!!!!!!!!!

Erin :o)

Message: 13595 Posted: Wed Sep 20 12:08:00 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: REGIS SHOW

I caught the show this morning. They were great. Again, I would have liked for them to have played something new just to show off how great they still are.

Well, back to the pain killers.


Message: 13594 Posted: Wed Sep 20 11:52:35 2000 By: LisaRose

It was fantastic to see them this morning. I not only got a glimpse of it while teaching integers during my 8th grade math class (thank God for TV's in the classroom although don't think that was what they intented them for) but also taped it at home. Hopefully they will be on more major television shows soon.

Message: 13593 Posted: Wed Sep 20 10:56:08 2000 By: Dan

Cool to see Dewey and Gerry on the tube. Sounded great as usual and so unplugged. As for Highway inclusions and exclusions;
1. A few more gems like Mitchum and Holladay (they were both so new and fresh to my ears)
2. A sprinkling of "Live" stuff such as Old Man Took and Company
3. Add Last Two To Dance
4. Ax Special Girl (no apologies needed)
5. any 3 more tunes from Alibi, but preferrably Catch That Train,One in a Million, and You Could've Been the One
6. lastly one entire CD of unplugged tunes of Dewey and Gerry's choosing.......Whew. DanC.

P.S. Kevin, I hate to be picky but Foolin' was from Silent Letter not View, but I'm sure I didn't have to point that out???

Message: 13592 Posted: Wed Sep 20 09:34:09 2000 By: Cathy

What a great show! I'm so glad we're fans of this band! They always look so professional and nice! Glad they got to be on with Colleen, too (=:

Message: 13591 Posted: Wed Sep 20 08:28:56 2000 By: RichM
Subject: Regis

I missed Regis. It sounds like Puffy AND America were on the same show? That is really an odd combination!! Anyway, I want to join kevin in plugging the Matthew Sweet CD. Matthew is great and I've been a fan of his since the early 90's while I was in college. He sometimes reminds me of Gerry on Steroids --lots of angst and longing for things that almost were or might be --but backed by guitars that kick some serious A. Last time I checked, though, his web page wasn't nearly as cool as this one. :)

Message: 13590 Posted: Wed Sep 20 07:36:38 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Regis

Puffy and his tongue visuals just MADE MY

Seriously though, it was a nice NICE segment on Regis! I liked the fact that it was part interview/part acoustic!!! Informal, the perfect showcase for them!!!! Dewey sounded GREAT (as did Gerry on "I Need You"-Readers Digest Version), the whole thing was top notch!!!!!!

TkH<---------coffee, orange juice, pop, water? Snacks will be around shortly....

Message: 13589 Posted: Wed Sep 20 07:13:00 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Regis

But what about Puff Daddy? LOL

Message: 13588 Posted: Wed Sep 20 06:57:41 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: REGIS....EXCELLENT! :0)

Here at work, I recorded it and caught a glimpse of them
singing AHWNN. I'll watch the rest tonight. GO HIGHWAY...GO AMERICA!

Message: 13587 Posted: Wed Sep 20 06:35:32 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Highway.

Only 7 more days until the release of the new Matthew Sweet Time Capsule CD, a best of collection from 1990 to 2000, including two new songs recorded specially for this release (although one song, called "How Could I Turn You Away" was broomed at the last minute due to petty record company squabbles).

If you buy just one Matthew Sweet album next week, Time Capsule should be it.


Message: 13586 Posted: Wed Sep 20 06:34:28 2000 By: Tres'
Subject: Regis!!!!

OMG! The guys were great! Dewey - you were so right on the money with 'that horse song'. ha. It was quite the treat to see you guys this a.m.! wuuu huuuu :)

Message: 13585 Posted: Wed Sep 20 06:33:47 2000 By: Robert Burgess

Great show they did alittle of a couple songs they were great ! Everyone there loved them ! Then they came back and did HORSE WITH NO NAME. Regis talked about them being legends. Take that Rock and roll hall of fame. They talked about the box set. Need to go now I am four hours late for work but it was worth it.

Message: 13584 Posted: Wed Sep 20 05:44:53 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: Highway.

Highway song set. It depends. 1) Am I picking the best 64 songs America ever made, every body has a differnet opionon on this. More Holiday, Hearts, no demos 2) Am I picking the most diverse set of songs they ever cut or played live. More rockers (Alibi), live cuts, and songs like Oloololo, Hot Town, Lady like a blue bird, etc.
3) Am I picking a box set that the die hard fan like me really wants. A wole extra 25 song CD with demos, unique mixes, and cuts that never made it to CD.

All in all, Rhino did a great Job pleasing all factions and keeping the number of songs at an affordable level (or legal limit as Gerry would say).

Message: 13583 Posted: Wed Sep 20 05:06:44 2000 By: Maureen
Subject: Regis'

Set those VCRS, I live in NY and I saw a commercial last night showing what is going to be on Regis tomorrow and they showed and old video of America - so get ready.............

Message: 13582 Posted: Wed Sep 20 04:44:33 2000 By: CJ

Well, I'm not Steve but I do know that I've been told the same - Regis - be there!!!

Chris - Cleveland

Message: 13581 Posted: Wed Sep 20 03:43:38 2000 By: holiday
Subject: FAQ and Dan Peek

Thanks MikeB and Steve - I do agree with all the responses though - The Horse With No Name rides on and will never die. We have our three horses still and they do have names. But earily, I read Gerry and Dewey's words from "Pages":
"When you are riding on that dark horse
To the one that got away
There's no regrets and no dues left to pay ........"

It probably is a dark horse that they will get back together. But we all share something in their collective and living music.
Ride on ................

Message: 13580 Posted: Tue Sep 19 22:08:26 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Oops, Hold That Ax On #2

As if it makes any difference, I meant to ax "Can't You See" not "Are You There". I got the two "question" song titles mixed up.

Margaret, I'd say you definitely grabbed the right things to save.

Message: 13579 Posted: Tue Sep 19 21:52:28 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Highway CD's picks and pans

Marshall, I would do the following:

1) Ax the alternate mix of "Letter". I like the album version much better. The alternate mix was very interesting to hear but it's too funky for me. Replace it with "Company".

2) Ax "Are You There". Replace it with "Story Of A Teenager". It's a unique song with Dan and Gerry on vocals, written for a unique opportunity. Too bad the movie was put on the shelf.

3) Ax "My Dear". Bad Pizza, Good Andy...sorry Dandy Andy. Replace with either "Tonight Is For Dreamers" or "Right Back To Me". Dewey is superb with his vocals on "TNIFD". I think the song was a perfect match for him. "RBTM" is one of my favorite Gerry-songs.

4) Ax "Only Game In Town". Replace with "Might Be Your Love" or "Catch That Train". As Kevin said, "Alibi" should have had a stronger presence. It's a great album even though it wasn't a commercial success. Well, not in the U.S. anyway. Highly underrated imho.

5) Ax "Special Girl" even though it received radio play. Replace with "Stereo" or "Bell Tree". I think Jimnak and I share the same feelings about "Stereo" and perhaps on "Bell Tree".

6) Ax "Greenhouse"...sorry Kevin. A good rocker but I think we need a little tranquility instead, as "Garden Of Peace" provides. As you can see, we're sticking with the botany theme. :0 )

7) Ax "Inspector Mills". Sorry Jim R. It's a wonderful song but I think it's replacement is a stronger one...either "Mirror To Mirror" or "Call Of The Wild".

8) Although it was interesting to hear "Mitchum Junction," I'd go with "Last Two To Dance". I think Dewey and Gerry provided great lyrics to an already wonderful melody. l really like the dramatic feel of the song. I also enjoy how Gerry and Dewey switch lead vocals.

9) Ax "James Holladay"...sorry "Dan The Bio Man". Replace it with a better Dan Peek song..."Jet Boy Blue" or "Never Found The Time".

Well Marshall, you asked. LOL!

Frank, I hope the guys are on Regis' show tomorrow morning because I plan to record it. There's definitely some advantages of living next to a state with a different time zone. We receive tv programs broadcast on Texas stations and an hour later, the same show is often broadcast on a New Mexico station. That's the case with "Regis". I can record it twice or once if I miss the first broadcast.

Message: 13578 Posted: Tue Sep 19 21:41:50 2000 By: Margaret
Subject: Highway and more

We went to the Olympics with our daughter last night. Soon after our arrival in the stadium she got an anxious call from home. A bushfire had been burning near us during the day, but appeared to be under control when we left for the Games. A backburning operation and change of wind direction caused much concern when the kids could see the flames and the house was full of smoke. After assurances from the firemen that they were in no danger, they phoned back and we were able to relax, not return home and enjoy the Games.
When we got home they told us how they had packed the cars for a quick getaway if necessary. The important things they packed included the dogs, photos, their music and all our America CDs. This included Highway which we had had for less than 24 hours. It's excellent. I, too, would have liked the inclusion of the songs we don't have. Perhaps that will happen in the future.
Great news about Gerry's new CD!

Message: 13577 Posted: Tue Sep 19 19:45:24 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Highway.


Songs I wish were included on Highway:

"Company" from Hearts, "Pigeon Song" from America, "Political Poachers" from Harbor, "Fooling" from View From The Ground, and pretty much anything from Alibi. I still wonder why so much from Hideaway. I'd have dumped "Who Loves You" and "Watership Down" and "Can't You See" and added three songs from Alibi. And one other song I wish would have made the cut, one of the best all-time America songs, "One Morning" from Silent Letter.

I agree about the two alternate mixes from Hideaway, "Who Loves You" and "Watership Down." They weren't that different. Certainly not so much as to warrant inclusion here.

I also wish there were many more demos. Again, this is from a fan's perspective. (Speaking of Perspective, they sho`uld have left off the dreadful "Special Girl" and substituted "Falling Off The World." And where was "Lady With A Bluebird," one of America's most interesting songs?")

Obscure songs I'm glad were there: It's Life, Submarine Ladies, Are You There, and the incredible My Dear.

I realize this was not a complilation for the benefit of America fans as much as is was for the benefit of Rhino and Warner getting extra mileage out of America's Warner Brothers catalog. But you're asking for a sort of wish list, that was it.

The only other thing I would have liked would have been the inclusion of the songs that were released but unavailable on CD: Love Comes Without Warning, and Last Two To Dance, and demo versions (if they exist) of some of the songs from Heard.

I'm sure everyone would have a totally different mix of songs. But, whatever, there's no denying that Highway is an excellent compilation and no matter how they would have shuffled the deck, it would have been wonderful.


P.S. Oh yeah, they should have dumped Muskrat Love.

Message: 13576 Posted: Tue Sep 19 18:01:41 2000 By: Bones
Subject: re: chat folder

Thank GOD you didn't use a nail gun John.

Message: 13575 Posted: Tue Sep 19 17:34:43 2000 By: RichM
Subject: America the Hip Hop band

In reference to Andy's post, while we would all cringe if America did a Hip Hop CD, I really enjoy the "funkier" sound of some of the remixes on Go Man Go. I would really like to hear Gerry explore that musical line a little further. Perhaps in the new solo. As for "Highway," I've already stated my views on this in the past, and I agree with John and Marshall. It really doesn't represent their post-1980 career very well.

Message: 13574 Posted: Tue Sep 19 17:16:08 2000 By: Frank

Can this be true??? Has anyone heard if America will be on "Live With Regis" on Wednesday morning at 9 AM New York time?? My copy of today's NY Post has them listed on the agenda in the TV section. Can this be possible??? Have you heard anything about this, Steve Lowry??

Message: 13573 Posted: Tue Sep 19 16:19:36 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Your Post, Jeff.

I think that Johnny is correct in saying that the more controvercial questions / comments bring out the largest responses from fans. Still, all questions are valid and deserve consideration. (Okay, MOST questions! LOL) I'll tell you what: After even the most mundane question, end it with a comment such as:

1.) "And they should kick that Gerry Beckley out of the group !!"

2.) "America should cut an entire CD of Rap and Hip Hop."

There, that should elicit a few responses :)


Message: 13572 Posted: Tue Sep 19 16:02:28 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Highway CD's picks and pans

Marshall, I agree with too many cuts from Hideaway (although I like the album). I too would have liked to see some of the "classics" represented in a "live" format. Sandman for instance is far stronger live . This would have given those not as familiar with how America sounds live a chance to experience it.

I mentioned it before that I find it funny how Gerry and Dewey both mentioned that they felt ambivalent about certain songs that were on the compilation (Special Girl, She's a Runaway,etc.). I too would have loved to see more from Hourglass (Mirror to Mirror, Hope, Garden of Peace), a couple from Human Nature, perhaps another from Alibi and View (Right before Your Eyes)

Just my completely uneducated opinion. (Still love the compilation, though)

Maybe I just wanted a 4th (5th,6th...) cd included. Never satisfied. I guess that's why so many here have been to dozens of concerts. We can't get enough.

Message: 13571 Posted: Tue Sep 19 15:42:59 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: re: chat folder

Damn. I wish I had thought of that before I tried the staple gun.

Message: 13570 Posted: Tue Sep 19 15:33:48 2000 By: Bones
Subject: re: chat folder

Try a little crazy glue on the ears. Just kidding, silicon caulking works better.

Message: 13569 Posted: Tue Sep 19 15:10:47 2000 By: Nina
Subject: While we're on the subject of America & Christmas music

I always said that if I ever met Gerry Beckley, I'd ask him the following question...and now I've met him twice, and each time I forget to ask him this:

In the late '70's, a big-time Boston radio station began playing short, Christmas songs (about a minute long) with the radio station's promo/tag ID attached at the end of the song. ONE of these little Christmas songs sounded JUST like Gerry singing lead. It was uncanny how much it sounded like his voice and style, that it had me completely convinced that it was him...yet I know it was probably a cover band doing the vocals. Is it possible..that America (still in their hey-day) did snippets of the following Christmas song, for radio station chains?

When someone gives...that means they care
Why is Christmas the only time we share
An open heart, full of joy, full of cheer
Why can't we have Christmas all year

It used to be, I've heard them say
That what you give will return someday
So why not give us an open ear
And let us bring you Christmas all year....

I found the "scratchy" cassette tape I had made of this song over 20 years ago as I was cleaning this summer...and I started wondering about it again!!!!! Could a die-hard America fan like me, be fooled by a phoney Gerry-Wanna-Be???

So Gerry if I see you at Topsfield Fair in October...have your answer ready!!!! (I'LL FORGET TO ASK AGAIN, I BET!!!!)

My cold is a"little" better...thanks everybody for the healthy wishes!


Message: 13568 Posted: Tue Sep 19 14:57:35 2000 By: Marshall
Subject: Highway CD's picks and pans

I've listened to the Highway CD compilation a few times, and read the booklet, which is great. My thanks to America for producing this! I appreciate the inclusion of "Everyone I meet..." single, "California Dreamin", "Simple Life", and "The Last Unicorn", which are not easily available, and the pre-first album demos.

The forum has discussed somewhat the choice of songs for the compilation. I'd like to revisit the issue.
What songs would you like to see on Highway that were not included?
What songs released on Highway do you think should not be there, in favor of others?

On the first question:
1)more from Hearts, one of their finest albums in sales, popularity, and quality. The whole side 2 of Hearts is fantastic. Side one also has great songs like "People in the Valley", "Old Virginia".
2) another song or two from Hourglass
3) something else from the new songs on ENCORE
4) something from Human Nature
5) something from one of their 'Live' albums(even though they were recorded in 77, 82, 85). This really represents the essence of the fan-experience with America today (since we don't hear new America songs on the radio anymore), which has developed over years of hard effort into a polished live-performing act. For example, a live recording of "Riverside" at the end of the 3rd CD would have finished it for me better than the stripped down unpolished take from the early days.

On the second question:
1) Less from "Hideaway". This album did not have as strong material, which the band themselves admitted in the booklet. Yet it has seven songs in the compilation, when three or four would do. Hearts only has three. The "alternate takes" on Watership Down and The Letter are not as interesting, only sound like the less-produced mix without the "George-Martinizing".
2) Delete the early demos of Ventura Highway and Riverside (see above)

Did anyone else notice that Highway uses two CD's (and some extra space on the 3rd CD for the early demos) for the first seven America albums (covering years from 1970-77) and less than one CD to cover the next 23 years (including 11 albums).
Nothing from the three live albums and Human Nature (noted in the book)
Maybe it is true that overall, the post-Peek era material isn't as strong. I don't necessarily agree with that, but the Highway compilation could reinforce that perception.

Message: 13567 Posted: Tue Sep 19 11:46:11 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Reply to Alan

Do you suppose Gerry & Dewey would ever consider doing a Christmas CD?

Alan, Gerry and Dewey have considered doing a Christmas album and would like to do one in the future. Whether or not it actually happens depends on a lot of things, but we can all keep our fingers crossed that it may happen someday.

Message: 13566 Posted: Tue Sep 19 10:46:37 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Chat Folder.

Excuse me for trying to make the folder a little more informative.....

Tongue in cheek or not, I sense a little "hostilitly" there. If I'm wrong, forgive me......It WASN'T a put down on repeating questions, it was JUST a suggestion on an FAQ for folks who've been SO STARVED for info and don't want to scroll thru eternity looking thru the Chat Folder looking for answers. I still think it's a great idea for an "over view" of things here...


Message: 13565 Posted: Tue Sep 19 10:30:20 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Reply to Alan


He played The Last Nail, too? Arrrrrgh! That's one of my favorites, too. Was the bluesy song perhaps "The Road Beneath My Wheels" or "Over And Over Again"? These 2 songs are on his live 2-CD set "Greetings From The West" and are not found anywhere else. Both songs are bluesy (especially Road).

I have DF's Christmas album and it is great. It took me all of of 2 times listening to it for it to become my favorite Christmas CD. Do suppose Gerry & Dewey would ever consider doing a Christmas CD? I think that would be really cool.

Hope you get feeling better real soon.


Message: 13564 Posted: Tue Sep 19 10:07:55 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: Re: Music To? By

Johnny, riding an exercise bike is the music offsets the boredom. I can't run anymore...I've got a 45 yr. old body and 70 yr. old knee(s).

John L. I can see how soccer and headphones don't jive. When I used to run I would have music running through my head. I swear when I'd hit a pothole the music would skip.....


Message: 13563 Posted: Tue Sep 19 09:56:21 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Chat Folder./ Kevin /Jeff

I think perhaps it is more due to America fans being polite than to any censorship. Maybe applying to old rule of if you can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all. Over the years I can recall some heated debate over controvercial topics. Like whether or not George Martin was good for America. I actually think that while he may have helped them commercially, he hurt them artistically. Imho they were better before he start producing them. Even in recent months the idea of a Dan Peek reunion was debated back and forth. The real reason that there are no plans for one is because Gerry and Dewey don't want one. From what I can tell from reading their quotes in a few interviews when the subject has come up, they feel that if they reunite and have a hit Dan will get all the credit. I disagree, and think that at this point in their career the best shot they have at getting some media attention and air play would be a reunion CD. But they are the ones calling the shots not me. The reason I didn't comment in this much detail earlier is because this subject was debate and debated in detail just a few months ago. While it may be an interesting topic to newcomers, those of us who have been around for a while are probably just waiting for a fresh topic of debate to come around.

But like I said, I don't think people on this board are affraid to discuss controversial topics. It's just that we tend to be a very polite group and the old timers have probably already discussed just about every America topic under the sun.

Message: 13562 Posted: Tue Sep 19 09:45:36 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Music To ? By

Jeff, I don't exercise to music but I do put on a record (yes, a vinyl) while I wash the dishes. It definitely makes it less boring. The record is usually an America one, Mamas and Papas, or early Beatles.

Message: 13561 Posted: Tue Sep 19 09:12:47 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: re: chat folder

Exercising to music - I tried to play soccer with my walkman but it didn't work too well. Damn head phones kept falling off whenever I headed the ball.

Message: 13560 Posted: Tue Sep 19 08:15:38 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: re: chat folder

I was having a bad excuses.

Anyway, I'm looking foward to the Gerry Beckley cd. I hope there's some mandolin and dobro thrown in somewhere. Though these instruments are used mostly in bluegrass and country I think they have a place in AMERICA's music. Oh, and some more banjo.

Now I'm going to punish myself with 11 grueling miles on my Schwinn air dyne to the sounds of LIKE A BROTHER. Anyone else exercise to music?


Message: 13559 Posted: Tue Sep 19 07:19:43 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Chat Folder.

Kevin, thanks for your input. As usual, it's filled with your wonderful tongue in cheek responses (which we all thoroughly enjoy) and a lot of truth. For what it's worth, if I know the answer to a question, I'll usually post it. Most of the time I keep quiet because I don't know the answer (e.g., I don't know how many copies of Human Nature were sold). There are a few times when I can't say anything because I have been sworn to secrecy (e.g, I've known about Gerry's forthcoming CD for several months but I wasn't given permission to say anything about it until yesterday). But usually I can (and will) share any information that I have. So, keep those questions coming and we'll all do our best to answer them.

It will be interesting to see what kind of questions get posed on the web site in November which Gerry and Dewey have said they will answer.


Message: 13558 Posted: Tue Sep 19 06:57:24 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Chat Folder.

Hey, Jeff. I've been really busy lately and haven't had much time to make a smart ass response to your, or anyone else's, posts. Sorry.

I've noticed that not many questions get answered here either, unless they've been sanitized for our protection. Mostly what you get is chat and opinions and people taking pot shots at Johnny and, every two months, people clamoring for Dan Peek to return.

I've found that if a question is asked and not answered, it usually means the answer isn't flattering or the news isn't good. For instance, when anyone asks about sales of Human Nature, they get no response because the answer is not too flattering for the record label or the band.

When we asked when the "second single" was going to be released, as promised, from Human Nature, things got quieter than the inside of a record executive's head.

Keep asking questions. If you don't get answers, make them up. That usually riles someone up enough to get a response of some kind.


Message: 13557 Posted: Tue Sep 19 06:46:46 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: America Fans Folder FAQ PSA

Hi all!

I've "talked" with Steve (i.e. he agrees) and we'd like to start an FAQ center on the site. I figure, YOU would have the best questions to ask (AND ANSWER-remember they have to actually HAVE definative answers...rofl!). This way if anyone brand-spanking-new comes to the site, they can go in and get answers to those burning questions that all of us have asked at one time or another!!! I know I had LOTS when I first "found" America on the net.....SOOOOOO, if you have a question/answer combo that is screaming to be heard, email me with it.
Hopefully, we'll have an FAQ up and running soon!!!!!

TkH<--------Lenny Krayzelburg....HELLO!!!............sigh!!!!

Message: 13556 Posted: Tue Sep 19 02:56:12 2000 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: Live w/ Regis

Just a reminder...set those VCR's for our boys with Regis Wednesday Sept 20th. Check local listings for time and channel.

Message: 13555 Posted: Mon Sep 18 21:27:58 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Your Post, Jeff.

Jeff, persistence is the key to getting answers to your questions here, I believe. Regarding what you said about your comments, perhaps it's because they're not controversial ones, so they don't evoke too much emotion from fellow fans. I see it as something positive rather than the other way. You can look at it as, the majority being in agreement with you. Regardless, I say, keep posting!! After all, I have yet to see anyone post, "EnoughJeff".

Message: 13554 Posted: Mon Sep 18 20:28:39 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: chat folder

Thanks Jeff.

Message: 13553 Posted: Mon Sep 18 19:12:20 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: chat folder

Even though I don't get much in the way of responce to my comments, questions, etc. I still find the chat folder a great place for information about upcoming concerts, new cd's and so forth.

Thanks for the chat folder Steve L.


Message: 13552 Posted: Mon Sep 18 17:28:14 2000 By: Steve
Subject: Re: FAQ and Dan Peek

DITTO...Mike! also to quote a great AMERICA song, "Ah come on children get your heads..back..together. I think we can make it...cause I know we're alive!

Message: 13551 Posted: Mon Sep 18 17:21:02 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: T-Shirts Falling Horizontally

Great news Stevo ! GERRY'S solo follow-up to VAN GO GAN. Perhaps in 2001 ?

Message: 13550 Posted: Mon Sep 18 16:28:08 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Dan in Brooklyn

I just read episode 9 of Dan's ongoing story. As near as I can tell, the Peek family stayed in Brooklyn (specifically in Fort Hamilton) near the Verrazano Narrows Bridge before setting sail to England in the late 1960s. Now that's interesting. You see, I was only a moderate walk from the bridge (having lived in Brooklyn until I was 12 in 1974). So, for a few days anyway, Dan was roaming around the same town as me. Let me think now, long-hair teenager with a guitar near Fort Hamilton Parkway in the late 1960s... Yep, I saw such a guy. (Aw, c'mon, humor me.)

Jim R.

Message: 13549 Posted: Mon Sep 18 15:31:08 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Video

Jim, the guys are announcing that when the new site comes up they're going to be answering questions that we'll be able to ask. They jokingly say that they look forward to answering the question about the horse with no name AGAIN.

Message: 13548 Posted: Mon Sep 18 15:22:21 2000 By: Nina
Subject: Reply to Alan

Alan...I kid you not...TWO AND A HALF HOURS of Dan Fogelberg!

He played from 7:30PM to 10:00PM on Sat. night in Boston, certainly giving us our money's worth! He DID play "The Reach" and "Nexus"...along with one of my all-time favorites "The Last Nail".

There's only one song I didn't recognize, a very bluesy number. He also did two guitar solos; one slide guitar masterpiece (aka:Bonnie Raitt) and a lovely Renaissance guitar piece...that was left off of his recent Christmas CD. Does anybody have that CD? Is it really good?

Anybody want to make me some chicken soup? Sniff...sniff...


Message: 13547 Posted: Mon Sep 18 15:08:29 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Video

Steve, I think a firewall at work is preventing me from downloading the latest version of QuickTime. (I just see Dewey's and Gerry's mouths moving, even with my sound settings turned up.) I may ask IS for the latest version. But for now, what did the guys say in the video?

Jim R.

Message: 13546 Posted: Mon Sep 18 12:28:39 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: T-Shirts Falling Horizontally

You may be interested in the latest addition to the America t-shirts on the Heart Times Coffee Cup Equals Lightning web site. The classic oval now comes in black. Look at the site and check it out.

You may also be interested to know that Gerry and Bobby Woods have begun Gerry's new solo record tentatively titled, "The Horizontal Fall". More information will be coming as the album progresses.


Message: 13545 Posted: Mon Sep 18 11:41:16 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: New Concert Dates

HELLO TERY HOLLY........2 TIMES IN 2 WEEKS????? What, is this a cosmic payback for all those missed concerts? AND with the hub home I'll be able to GO FER SURE!!!! ((((((((((((C= Oh joy, oh bliss...


TkH<------Regis and now this.....what's a girl to do...rofl

Message: 13544 Posted: Mon Sep 18 09:39:02 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: New Concert Dates

I just received the following:

10/19/00 New York, NY (B.B. Kings)
10/20/00 Stanhope, NJ (Waterloo Village)
11/10/00 West Palm Beach, FL (Carefree Theater)
11/18/00 Sarasota, FL (TBA)
11/19/00 Islamorada, FL (TBA)

I'll add them to the concert list on the web site the next chance I get.


Message: 13543 Posted: Mon Sep 18 08:50:20 2000 By: TZ MAC
Subject: Re: Dan Fogelberg

1983, just as Make Love Stay had come out, I got to see just Dan, his piano and guitar .......... very good concert!

Make Love Stay remains one of my favorite songs.


Message: 13542 Posted: Mon Sep 18 08:43:35 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: Dan Fogelberg

I saw a Dan Fogelberg Acoustic Concert in the early 80's, and still fingerpick a few of his songs on my guitar. I also saw Tim Weisberg (flutist) once, but can’t remember if Dan was with him. I really enjoyed the acoustic concert and still enjoy the Souvenir Album. His "Power of Gold" song didn't go over well with me though. I was working in the nuclear power industry at the time and was not getting rich. He was in Salt Lake City last month and I wanted to see him. But, I opted my limited funds for the 230-mile drive to Jackpot for America, and I'm glad I did.

I'll be watching both the concert schedule and my wallet for the next time they both come near Slat Lake City. Any conflicts though, and I'll have to opt for America again.

Message: 13541 Posted: Mon Sep 18 08:08:03 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: FAQ and Dan Peek

I don't see any dead horses yet. All three of them are still making great music and have names now. I've heard the copy of Peace that Steve won from Dan's contest. In my CD player they are side-by-side.
Granted, they haven't physically been together for a long time and (probably) never will get together. But never say never, because then I'll get on my Horse.

Some of us can still dream. America and our youthful selves did some "mighty powerful" dreaming at age 19. "I beleive in Miracles", contrary to the America song written by Ballard. I can also still dream along with Steve, Dan, holiday, and whoever else wants to dream the "Imposible dream".

I do enjoy the new found stuff on Highway, Human Nature, Hourglass, Peace, etc. And, will continue to enjoy whatever music these three live horses continue to give me.

Message: 13540 Posted: Mon Sep 18 07:28:16 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Dan Fogelberg

Hi guys,

I am one of the lucky ones who have seen Fogelberg perform (actually, I've seen him 6 times now, 3 with a band and 3 acoustic).

I am also a big fan of Nexus, but I've always been partial to The Reach (also on the Innocent Age).

Anyway, I guess I'll be spending more time on the page for the next few weeks. I'm having (much needed) back surgery today and will be home with a laptop for about a month.

BTW, I am starting to really like LIKE A BROTHER.


Message: 13539 Posted: Mon Sep 18 07:18:34 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: FAQ and Dan Peek

While Dan seems to be open to the idea of a reunion, Gerry and Dewey are not really interested in a reunion right now. I hope they will change their minds at some point in the future, but it is really their decision.

Message: 13538 Posted: Mon Sep 18 07:05:52 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: FAQ and Dan Peek

you are beating a dead horse here. For reasons that only they know, there won't be any sort of reunion.. enjoy the new/old stuff on highway.

Message: 13537 Posted: Mon Sep 18 06:33:18 2000 By: holiday
Subject: Re: FAQ and Dan Peek

Thanks Steve - I am a fan from Down Under, so we don't get to see the guys too often - are they coming over for the Olympics - any rumours?
I definitely miss the Peek style as evidenced in 'Lonely People' and 'Today's The Day'. Can we send the guys Dan's phone number? Maybe they could collaborate on an album - no touring required. In any case, retirement may not be too far off?????

Message: 13536 Posted: Sun Sep 17 13:19:15 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: america fans

Sure see you there!

Message: 13535 Posted: Sun Sep 17 12:35:49 2000 By: patdempsey
Subject: america fans

any one want to chat about america?

Message: 13534 Posted: Sun Sep 17 11:19:07 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: The Dans: Fogelberg and Peek

Wow, an acoustic Fogelberg concert! Boy, I would love to attend one of those. Fogelberg's hit song, "Part Of The Plan," led me to his "Souvenirs" album. Seeing Gerry's name as a player on "There's A Place..." convinced me to purchase the album. Have been a fan since. I remember during one of the past Olympics, Fogelberg's song, "The Power Of Gold," was often played on TV.

Cathy, if I submitted a song, not only would the band and I need tequila or gin, but so would YOU ALL as listeners. Probably a double-shot!! LOL.

Dan (Peek) has completed Episode #9 on his website. Dewey and Gerry's name are mentioned. On the cover of "Highway" that I received from Dan, he wrote: "Johnny, fasten your seat belt!!". I take that to mean we're all goin' to be in store for a wild ride.

(Nina, hope you recover quickly!)

Message: 13533 Posted: Sun Sep 17 10:48:23 2000 By: Janice
Subject: re: Dan Fogelberg

Lucky you, Nina (and so sorry to hear you are feeling poorly)..I love Dan Fogelberg also! Saw him several years ago at the Irvine Amphitheater after being "caller #10" to a local radio show..! Feel better..(passing the kleenex)..

Message: 13532 Posted: Sun Sep 17 10:35:52 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Re: And now...a public service announcement

2 1/2 hours?!? Nina, I'm extremely envious! I am a BIG Dan Fogelberg fan. Finally, 2 years ago I went with my wife, brother and oldest daughter to see him at the Cohassett Music Circus (almost on the cape). It was under a tent by the sea. I was also surprised that he had such a sense of humor. Very personable. My brother had seen a couple of years prior with a full band at Great Woods. He felt that while both shows had their good points, the solo accoustic performance was the best. He is absolutely amazing as a solo performer.

He started off with Nexus (my all-time favorite DF song) and played many great songs. I was thrilled when he played "The Reach", which is about a place near Stonington, Maine and the lobster fishermen there. The only problem was IT WAS TOO SHORT. It was over in about an hour and a half.

After the concert, I went to his website and looked at his playlist for the summer tour and found that he had dropped 6 songs from the set. We thought maybe he didn't feel well that night or had another engagement he had to rush off to. We later found out that Cohassett has a curfew and all events had to be over by 10:00 PM. Why didn't they just dispose of the openiong act, fer cyin' out loud.

Despite the wonderful show, I still feel as though we were ripped off! To top it all off, he wouldn't come out and sign my box set that I'd just shelled out 50 bucks for.

I would have loved to attend that show, but I am BROKE right now in a big way (I haven't even gotten America's box set or Go Man Go, yet) and I wasn't lucky enough to win one of the pairs of tickets they were giving away at WHOM (a local soft-rock station).

Glad you got to see a great show, though. By the way, Gerry played accoustic guitar on the song "There's A Place In The World For A Gambler", the last song on the Souvenirs album.


Message: 13531 Posted: Sun Sep 17 09:23:03 2000 By: Cathy
Subject: Hangover (or: rehearsing for the contest)

Howie... don't hold your breath waiting for my submission (it'll come, just not right away!).

So... the tequila turned into gin and tonics. The tape recorder didn't actually have a microphone (although someone managed to record the thing on video so it could be e-mailed, god forbid). And the better guitarist sliced the finger of his left hand earlier in the day.

All in all, we had a blast and, with a bit more time and more gin, we might create something that wouldn't be too embarrassing.

Message: 13530 Posted: Sun Sep 17 08:35:59 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re:Fogelberg concert

Nina...thanks for the tip...I have always wanted to catch one of Fogelbergs all acoustic wife and I saw him sometime back.....he had a full band....however he did about a 15 minute acoustic set in the middle of the show....that was my favorite part of the show....and if I remember right Gerry played or sang on Dan's album "Souvenirs"....i dont remember which song it was...I guess Ill have to get the album out of the attic and check the credits

Message: 13529 Posted: Sun Sep 17 07:51:16 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Nina' PSA

I am SO sorry to hear about your creeping crud! I'm glad Mr. Fogelberg was able to "help"!!!!! Guess I should take everyone's advice (you're the FOURTH person to rave about his concerts!!!!!)!

I know ALL about that "cheese smell", Tiger Stadium in Detroit is the LIMBURGER of old-building-cheese-smells.....ARGH! It pierces through the stuffiest of sinuses!!! LOL

Hope you feel better SOON!

TkH<----How long will the wind blow?

Message: 13528 Posted: Sun Sep 17 07:46:35 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Dear, dear Beech:

LOL, Janice.....
Even though we "missed" the actual event, we are on the dirty side of the darned thing (which means lots of Tornado Warnings, LOTS of rain lots of power fluctuations ((just had one...UGH-nice on the computer, eh?)) and listening to Roland Stedham pleading with us to stay tuned to channel 6 and he'll "get us through this mess")!

Ahhhh, just a typical weekend at the beech......<<snicker

TkH<------"some will be taken, some will remain"

Message: 13527 Posted: Sun Sep 17 07:13:29 2000 By: Nina
Subject: And now...a public service announcement

Just wanted to share a surreal experience with you all... because "surreal" doesn't happen very much in MY life these days! (Exception: Getting to meet Gerry and Dewey in May...and again in July...and hopefully in October @ Topsfield Fair?!))

Anyway, despite a terrible cold, sore throat, nagging sinuses...(and the after effects of a sadistic sress test set up by my beloved doctor) I ventured out to Boston (the BIG city) to see Dan Fogelberg in concert...

Once I found the Orpheum theater it smelled like cheese, the seats were much too small, and I was directly behind the sound board...."Ah, yes", I thought to myself, "yet ANOTHER ?wonderful"? concert experience to add to my list!" "I'm getting too old for this crap!"

But, when Dan hit the stage and started the first song..."just for a moment I was back in school"! It all came rushing days!
He played SOLO/ACOUSTIC for 2 and a half hours...and although the sound system was "muddy"...the show was amazing! ( He's funny, too, which surprised me! Who would've thought?!)

So, for all you "oldies" like me, this might be a concert you'd enjoy! I don't think Gerry and Dewey will mind if I recommend a Dan Fogelberg concert to you...(I hope!) I think they played and sang on Dan's first or second album...I WAS a long time ago!

Gotta sinusses are killing me...but I don't mind so much... since Im basking in the glow of GOOD music from last night!


Message: 13526 Posted: Sun Sep 17 05:32:00 2000 By: Janice
Subject: tripping over words

Leaky, left out the word "works" between the "tea" and "just" see, I had one of those monsters last night..definitely impairs my ability to think/type coherently.

Message: 13525 Posted: Sun Sep 17 05:29:17 2000 By: Janice
Subject: Dear, dear Beech:

Hurricane?? You mean the one that as of 5am EDT was 155 miles WSW of Tampa with winds of 75mph, movement NNE 16mph, with pressure of 28.97 in/981 mb? Hmm..not sure, but the name Gordon comes to mind. :-0 Leaky, and I find that just one Long Island Iced Tea just fine to untangle the vocal cords.

Message: 13524 Posted: Sat Sep 16 15:11:10 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: Re:underwear/Tequila

...Thank you Janice for adding to my vocabulary….. I truly respect Barbara’s talent…however that knot in her underwear attitude erks me….my favorite movie of hers was “A star is born”……

Cathy…I cant wait to hear your tequila influenced recording….if you want an edge try Sammy Hagar’s Cabo Wabo Tequila ….

Message: 13523 Posted: Sat Sep 16 12:06:10 2000 By: Steve
Subject: Re: FAQ and Dan Peek

I couldn't agree with you more...the three together are definetly AMERICA'S...PEAK..even though I still am happy they are still putting out great music...I think one reason is Dan does'nt like to tour much..but then neither did the Beatles...lets keep HOPE alive the three of them will make music again together. I just won Dan's PEACE CD..and a couple of those songs would have added greatly to the Human Nature cd.

Message: 13522 Posted: Sat Sep 16 09:51:13 2000 By: Cathy
Subject: Re: Howie Update.....

Wait for me Howie.... my friends and I are getting together today (armed with enough tequila to see us through) and recording our masterpiece.

Message: 13521 Posted: Sat Sep 16 08:42:33 2000 By: holiday
Subject: FAQ and Dan Peek

I would like to hear from anyone as to why Gerry and Dewey are against getting back with Dan. While America is still my favourite and most played group, I will always regard their original trio and pre 1977 albums as their "peak" - excuse the pun.
Dan's songs and harmonies added a dimension noticeably missing in all their later work. Dan says he would like to get back together - what is preventing that?

Message: 13520 Posted: Sat Sep 16 07:20:25 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Howie Update.....

So Howard? What's the status of your contest?
How many of you have sent your "babies" in???????

Hmmmmm? HMMMMMMM? (C= }

TkH<------13 televised and counting....sigh

Message: 13519 Posted: Sat Sep 16 07:16:17 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: One lucky husband.....

So on his ONE day off this season, the hubmeister gets taken to Atlantic City (by his "tied down to Florida" boss who LOVES to gamble and realized his employees had a day off in Phili). The 4 of them drive the drive, get the car parked, walk up to the casino and lo and behold what does my hub see? Two V-E-R-Y familiar faces staring at him from the wall...........ahhhhhhh, the Trump Casino-Oct. 21st!!!!

I laughed and told him they were checking up on him and making sure he was where he SAID he was going to be......ROFLMAO!

Just goes to show you that there ARE forces in the universe mysteriously at work......rofl!!!!

TkH<-------hurricane? WHAT HURRICANE?

Message: 13518 Posted: Sat Sep 16 05:36:25 2000 By: holiday
Subject: olympics, lyrics and go Thorpe

Go Thorpedo - two great golds!!
Re lyrics - also from 'Hope': 'there's a light shining beyond the southern cross, burning bright for everyone of us .....'
And what about 'Your Move'? - is chinese checkers an olympic sport?

Message: 13517 Posted: Sat Sep 16 05:26:47 2000 By: Janice
Subject: re:underwear

Good persevered!!
Glad you liked that ex used to refer to mine always being in one..(he was probably right..but it is amazing how untangled they are now..hmmm)..
You know, I used to love Barbra..but she has developed such an "attitude" over the years..I loved her with Robert Redford in The Way We Were..and I look at him now living my "dream lifestyle" Sundance..surrounded by beauty, down to earth..(still good looking as ever mind you..Oh! and I loved him in Horse Whisperer!!) Anyway, ever the star with real presence..and then there's Queen Barbra perched on her Malibu mountain with Mr. Barbra..yuck..Anyway..I'm rambling..have a great weekend everyone..this is Festival Weekend here (the kickoff..leaves are turning..time to garden and go antique shopping!! Beautiful time of year..sigh..

Message: 13516 Posted: Fri Sep 15 18:46:42 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Video

lol. I was FINALLY able to get to see it ( here at home,my computer at work is so old it doesn't have a cd) I hope the new site is all they wish it to be!

Message: 13515 Posted: Fri Sep 15 16:39:00 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: ..speaking of underwear in a knot

....speaking of underwear in a knot....(that was funny)...does anyone want two tickets to see Barbara Striesand in L.A. on September dentist has two tickets for sale (for more money then I would want to spend to see babwa..who I think has her underwear in a knot...sorry) me for details if you are interested...

Message: 13514 Posted: Fri Sep 15 15:36:04 2000 By: Janice
Subject: re: Kids

Yah, Beech..but you probably vacuum better than me..It really gets my underwear in a knot, ya know? I can spend hours on preparing a dish that Julia Childs would drool over and my kids sit and and look at it with a blank macaroni and cheese tonight?)..geez..that's ok..someday, when they're eating "dorm food" they'll wish old mom was cooking for them again. :-0

Message: 13513 Posted: Fri Sep 15 14:52:26 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: re: Kids..

Oh, Janice, I wish I HAD culinary efforts!!!! (My kids will attest to

TkH<---if it doesn't come out of a box or a bag I don't do it....lolol

Message: 13512 Posted: Fri Sep 15 14:43:31 2000 By: Janice
Subject: re: Kids..

Yes, Jim..I can relate very is so funny right now AJ (15) is expanding his appreciation for music to a great new sound of Light my Fire by Jim Morrison (the Doors, and one of my favorites as well!)..and Eric Clapton (as I pull out my 1969 Best of Cream album I am chuckling at his musical discoveries)..and 45's?? I have a bunch (as well as a larger vinyl record collection than CDs) that I regularly listen to...on a record player!!! They just don't realize how cool we really are, do they?? I just will never sing singing (as well as culinary efforts) are totally wasted on unappreciative children. :-)

Message: 13511 Posted: Fri Sep 15 14:17:56 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Video

By the way, the video (apparently) can only be played by the latest version of the Apple Quicktime 4 player. If you don't have it you can download it at --SteveL

Message: 13510 Posted: Fri Sep 15 14:13:53 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Kids say the darndest things

Well Janice, you and Teri reminded me of my own kid encounter last winter. IT finally happened to me. I picked up my daughter (age 13) and two teammates from basketball practice. Playing on my car CD player was "Homecoming." "Oooh, oldies," said one of the girls. Sigh! That's what I used to think about all those 45 RPM records from the 1950s stored in my grandmother's closet in the 1970s.

Jim R.

Message: 13509 Posted: Fri Sep 15 12:59:22 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: re: Lyrics and the Olympics

Under the bridge I'll move to far off lands
Maybe Australia or North African sands
Complete my mission, hope you understand
(Ports-Of-Call...Gerry and Dewey)

We had our destination
In our sights

Today, there will be no competition
I think today might be
(One In A Million...Gerry)

A celebration, nothing else can compare
(Young Moon...Dewey)

Flags are being unfurled
Waving before the dawning
I'm watching the show
(Glad To See You...Dan)

Some are quick to take the bait
And catch the perfect prize that waits among the shelves
(Tin Man...Dewey)

Message: 13508 Posted: Fri Sep 15 11:29:22 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Video

I have uploaded the America video to my Internet hard drive and it will remain shared for the next 7 days. You can download the .MOV (Quicktime) file to your hard drive and then try to run it from there. Hopefully, that will overcome the browser problems you're running into.

Download America Video


Message: 13507 Posted: Fri Sep 15 10:48:26 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: re: Lyrics and the Olympics

"I'm aflame..."

Message: 13506 Posted: Fri Sep 15 09:47:46 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: Video

ShariL. I had the same problem from two differnet Windows 95/98/NT Computers. It looks like a Quicktime vs Windows Media problem.

Message: 13505 Posted: Fri Sep 15 09:46:54 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: Video

ShariL. I had the same problem from two differnet Windows 95/98/NT Computers. It looks like a Quicktime vs Windows Media problem.

Message: 13504 Posted: Fri Sep 15 09:22:08 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Video

UGH! Media player opens up for me, and the play button is dark like it's playing, but it isn't! Then the button goes light, like it's supposed to do when it's done!
Can any of you techie gurus help me? Please?
ShariL <><

Message: 13503 Posted: Fri Sep 15 09:08:51 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Video With Dewey and Gerry

ARGH! I have to wait till I get home as my work machine is just one or two steps away from a lead pencil ( the ORIGINAL word processor!)

Message: 13502 Posted: Fri Sep 15 06:24:59 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Video With Dewey and Gerry

I actually woke up and found something different in my day to day! Thanks to the powers that be, I can now vaccuum with a happy attitude!

TkH<-------"On the first part of the journey..."

Message: 13501 Posted: Fri Sep 15 04:16:07 2000 By: Janice
Subject: re: Video with Dewey and Gerry

AHHHH..I actually "scooped" you Steve..that's a first..(and probably just a fluke)! Have a nice day everyone..TGIF!!!

Message: 13500 Posted: Thu Sep 14 20:39:24 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Video With Dewey and Gerry

Janice, you're the first one to mention anything about the video on the web site. I just took a look and it's very cool. There is already a significant change and it looks like a new site will be coming this November. You can sign up to receive notification of the new site's launch by going to the web site and as a thank you, you'll get to see a video of Gerry and Dewey. If you want to go straight to the video without signing up, click on this link.

Message: 13499 Posted: Thu Sep 14 20:08:34 2000 By: Janice
Subject: re: Lyrics and the Olympics

Oooo..I could have fun with this Johnny..(if I wasn't so gosh darned tired..)..maybe tomorrow..
This may be old news to most of you (I haven't scrolled back very far)but have you seen the video of "Dew and Ger" on the Ventura Highway site? Love it..
Well nighty night..5am comes early..yawn..:-0

Message: 13498 Posted: Thu Sep 14 16:46:08 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: Re: America Lyrics and the Olympics

here are two more :

"We are here in this moment
Shining twice as bright
We are here for all to see"

(Young Moon)

"Long determination
Will forever remain"

(Kiss of Life)

Message: 13497 Posted: Thu Sep 14 16:33:19 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: America Lyrics and the Olympics

quotes out of context

"you've gotta hope you're gonna win the fight"

Message: 13496 Posted: Thu Sep 14 16:21:48 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: America Lyrics and the Olympics

For the day after the last event:

"Today, there won't be no competition...."


Message: 13495 Posted: Thu Sep 14 15:32:56 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: America Lyrics and the Olympics

We all have every faith in you and all the things you do all the way round......(I think I got 'em right? Tery YOU'RE NO can't even quote lyrics verbatim??????? GEEZ)

TkH<----------dog won't even GO in car...

Message: 13494 Posted: Thu Sep 14 15:27:13 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Hi Ya's

Ah least you didn't have a rough tap on your shoulder followed by "Mom, PLEEEEEEEEEAZE stop, enough already" from you 10 year old.......(snicker)

TkH<---------doesn't bring the dog in car

Message: 13493 Posted: Thu Sep 14 14:33:34 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: america on regis

Thanks for the info, Kiri. This one is even on broadcast TV so I'll be able to watch it! --Steve (cable challenged)

Message: 13492 Posted: Thu Sep 14 13:11:36 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: America Lyrics and the Olympics

(In Sydney, isn't it?)

Now I'm high in the city
Feel the evening air
The crowds in the city
Compete for a share

(Glad to have you come out, Virginia)

Message: 13491 Posted: Thu Sep 14 13:08:23 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: america on regis

Thanks Kiri! I have MY calendar marked.

Message: 13490 Posted: Thu Sep 14 12:40:42 2000 By: Virginia
Subject: Re: America Lyrics and the Olympics

Okay, Johnny, you brought me out of "lurkdom" for this one. Even though they are not Dewey or Gerry's lyrics, how about this:

Losers lose and wind up weeping
But it's the only game in town.

And may I add another belated birthday wish to Gerry. My daughter's birthday is the same day. I'd like to say I planned it that way, but I doubt I even knew when Gerry's birthday was way back then. She just turned 22.

Message: 13489 Posted: Thu Sep 14 11:43:26 2000 By: kiri
Subject: america on regis

hey, look what i found while browsing!

Show: Regis Live
Episode: 09/20/2000
Network: (SYN) Syndicated
Date: Wednesday - September 20, 2000
Time: 09:00 am - 10:00 am ET
Featured Artists: America (70's), Puff Daddy

Message: 13488 Posted: Thu Sep 14 11:40:18 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: America Lyrics and the Olympics

There's a ticket waitin'
I gotta catch that train
The yellow racin' dreamboat
Oh baby, come see me

Message: 13487 Posted: Thu Sep 14 10:45:57 2000 By: Pete
Subject: Re: America Lyrics and the Olympics

You can do magic

Message: 13486 Posted: Thu Sep 14 10:02:49 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: America Lyrics and the Olympics

Okay, I'll go first. The Olympians:

Home, miles away from home
And there's no place I'd rather be

Dan's "Can't You See"

(Hi Janice)

Message: 13485 Posted: Thu Sep 14 09:41:26 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Hi Ya's

KIDS! Ah well at least he knew it was Dewey and Gerrt singign so you must be doing something right, Janice!

Glad to see you are back with us. I wondered where you were.

Message: 13484 Posted: Thu Sep 14 09:24:17 2000 By: Janice
Subject: Hi Ya's

Happy Belated Birthday, Gerry! Sorry..haven't been on for awhile..time flies! Hope everyone has been absolutely wonderful..won't even attempt to go back and read all I've missed! Busy busy busy..
Wanted to share this and would your feelers be hurt like mine were? Me,(known to my kids as just "mom") singing to favorite America song in the car..Kid says, (yes, the smallest one).."Mom, do you know why Dewey and Gerry sing this song?"..he is obviously baiting me..I answer.."no"..and he says "so YOU don't have to"! Hrummmppphhh. Kids.

Message: 13483 Posted: Thu Sep 14 09:05:59 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: America Lyrics and the Olympics

How about this: Can you give us America lyrics that might have a reference to the Olympics?

Message: 13482 Posted: Wed Sep 13 18:53:59 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Chat?

Anyone up for a quick impromptu chat. I will be haeding for the chat room presently...

Message: 13481 Posted: Wed Sep 13 11:01:24 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Happy Belated Birthday!

Sheesh! I leave the folder for a few days and Gerry goes and has a birthday while I'm gone. What nerve!

Happy Birthday, Gerry! Hope you saved a piece of cake for me! (LOL)


Message: 13480 Posted: Wed Sep 13 10:51:22 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Re: This and That...

Nina wrote: << Anyway, Alan, I don't know if I'll be there at night...but I'll be there in the afternoon because I "think" there is a 2 PM show. >>

If it is the same as last year, there will be one at 2:00 and one at 7:00 both Friday and Saturday. If that is the case, I am planning to attend BOTH shows on Saturday, as I did last year. (Hey, if I'm going to drive for 3+ hours, I'm gonna make it worth my while!).

Hope to see you and others from the Chat there! Maybe we can all meet Dewey and Gerry between shows (that's where I finally got to go meet them last year).


Message: 13479 Posted: Wed Sep 13 10:22:11 2000 By: dennis
Subject: Happy BirthDay Gerry!!!from Goldeneaglevideo

I just found out it is your BirthDay,,,,I met you in Seattle many moons ago after concert with ozark mt.daredevils.I think your music is amazing and would like to use a video in my documentary of enviromental groups & music which has Natures Way video from Spirit(Randy California)Please let me know if this is possiable.We are incorporating as a non-profit foundation.Many Blessings,Light,& Love,Dennis Proffitt,GEVF

Message: 13478 Posted: Wed Sep 13 07:12:27 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: Olympics and Human Nature

'Savage Garden' is my 15 year old boys favorite group. I didn't know they were an Aussie Group. I like listening to 'Savage Garden' alongside America in my cars 6 CD changer.

Message: 13477 Posted: Wed Sep 13 06:01:16 2000 By: Pat B.
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday

Happy Birthday Gerry, thanks for all the great music.

Message: 13476 Posted: Wed Sep 13 05:52:10 2000 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday


May I be the first to wish you a "Belated" Happy Birthday (Was away from my computer yesterday). May you know of nothing but health and happiness.


Message: 13475 Posted: Wed Sep 13 05:51:46 2000 By: holiday
Subject: Olympics and Human Nature

What is the link? Human Nature is an Aussie Group appearing at the Olympics Opening Ceremony in my home town on Friday - keep a look out for them. They feature good harmonies - our own BackStreet Boys maybe?. We were talking about our Aussie groups last week here - and I forgot about 2 of our guys that sing together, much like America, and don't do too bad - they're called 'Savage Garden'. Also from the '80's I forgot to mention 'Little River Band'. Did anyone in the US catch them? - 'Home On a Monday'/'Witchery'/'Reminiscing'?? They were ok.
Hope some of you have caught up to Taxiride now and their 'Imaginate' CD.
I'll leave you with a question - Are there any songs you would like to see America cover? I still love their new material of course, but there must be some great songs waiting to be reborn......... Cast The Spirit friends.........

Message: 13474 Posted: Wed Sep 13 05:51:44 2000 By: holiday
Subject: Olympics and Human Nature

What is the link? Human Nature is an Aussie Group appearing at the Olympics Opening Ceremony in my home town on Friday - keep a look out for them. They feature good harmonies - our own BackStreet Boys maybe?. We were talking about our Aussie groups last week here - and I forgot about 2 of our guys that sing together, much like America, and don't do too bad - they're called 'Savage Garden'. Also from the '80's I forgot to mention 'Little River Band'. Did anyone in the US catch them? - 'Home On a Monday'/'Witchery'/'Reminiscing'?? They were ok.
Hope some of you have caught up to Taxiride now and their 'Imaginate' CD.
I'll leave you with a question - Are there any songs you would like to see America cover? I still love their new material of course, but there must be some great songs waiting to be reborn......... Cast The Spirit friends.........

Message: 13473 Posted: Tue Sep 12 21:04:25 2000 By: msmith
Subject: me too!

happy birthday, gerry. please keep crankin out the great music. it is with me every day. i hope it never stops!

Message: 13472 Posted: Tue Sep 12 20:47:33 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday

Happy B-Day, Gerry!!!!!!
They played Tinman on the classic rock station up here, after it was done, the DJ mentioned it was your Birthday, she also mentioned that you turned 48 today! Keep up the great music, & that youthful appearance!! Take Care!!

Message: 13471 Posted: Tue Sep 12 19:38:55 2000 By: kiri
Subject: happy b-day

yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift; that's why they call it the present

Message: 13470 Posted: Tue Sep 12 17:09:13 2000 By: Rick Bolling
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday

Happy birthday Gerry! Hope it's been a good one!


Message: 13469 Posted: Tue Sep 12 15:58:51 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Happy Birthday and here is your B.Day Horoscope

Have a fantastic day. Here's what the stars say about you -"Happy Birthday, Virgo! You have no illusions about life. You don't expect others to cater to you, nor do you believe life is just a bowl of cherries. When things go unusually well, you're pleased. When they don't, you're not surprised. You're very particular about noise, odors, and privacy. You prefer living in a quiet, sheltered area and don't like being in plain view while entering or leaving your house. You never forget a betrayal or someone who reveals something one of your secrets. What you view as a personal matter may not seem especially private to others. This breach in understanding makes it critical to painstakingly explain what is private to your closest friends and family members. Don't automatically expect them to just 'know'. Your desire for privacy is part of your need to remain in control of your life, safety, and environment. You worry and can be overprotective of people and things you cherish. Your obligations and work usually come before leisure activities. You may eventually view your work as your hobby. Once you've found your calling, you may work longer hours than most and eventually achieve a high level of excellence and success. No matter how many times you examine something you've done, you always find room for improvement. This desire to make things better is one of the strongest running themes in your life." Well, your work is your hobby and you are definitely successful and have achieved a high level of excellence!!! All the Best!!! Lisa

Message: 13468 Posted: Tue Sep 12 14:28:21 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Kevin Alton, Your CD Collection

Kevin A, that's a great collection of autographed CD covers you have. I'm really impressed and envious, too!!

That's the first time I've seen the 2-CD set with the backside of the "Silent Letter" album cover photo and the US flag. It looks very cool.

Message: 13467 Posted: Tue Sep 12 13:42:36 2000 By: Dave from Ocean City, MD
Subject: Happy Birthday

Gerry, happy birthday. May all of the joy of the day be yours. Hope you got the story from Steve about the pick when I saw you in Dewey Beach!

Message: 13466 Posted: Tue Sep 12 11:56:47 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: Happy Birthday Gerry

Gerry...thanks for the great music !!!! have a great day

Message: 13465 Posted: Tue Sep 12 10:13:14 2000 By: Tres'
Subject: Mr. Beckley - better than fine wine

Wishing a MOST EXCELLENT birthday to a MOST EXCELLENT man. Have a wonderful day. Thank you for all the smiles you've brought to my face. As always, I wish you the best! Enjoy!

Message: 13464 Posted: Tue Sep 12 08:56:13 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Re: Sound alikes.

Most of Gerry Beckley's slow piano ballads sound alike to me.

Message: 13463 Posted: Tue Sep 12 08:12:20 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Gerry, Your Birthday

"Brother Golden Hair", it's your day today! Happy, Happy Birthday and many, many more!!! You're still lookin' mighty youthful. Man, I'm glad you were born even though it was in Texas. (Just kidding, Kevin and Shayne.)

Message: 13462 Posted: Tue Sep 12 07:42:50 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Gerry's Birthday

Happy Birthday, Gerry.
May your day be blessed with whatever you are hoping for today.
Looking forward to seeing you on the 29th at Humphrey's in San Diego (just in time to celebrate both yours and our anniversaries!)
Take care and be safe.
ShariL in San Diego <><

Message: 13461 Posted: Tue Sep 12 07:32:38 2000 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Sound Alikes

Everyone I Meet Is From California and California Revisited, sorry, poor attempt at humor.....DanC.

Message: 13460 Posted: Tue Sep 12 07:06:31 2000 By: Maureen
Subject: Happy Birthday, Gerry

Hi Gerry,
I just wanted to take this opportunity to wish you a very
Happy Birthday and many, many more!!! You're THE Best :-)
Keep up the great work !!
Maureen from LI

Message: 13459 Posted: Tue Sep 12 07:01:37 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Happy Birthday Gerry!

Enjoy a beautiful day ( it looks like we are going to have a very nice day, weather-wise!)
Wishing you many more happy days


Message: 13458 Posted: Tue Sep 12 05:52:46 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Happy Birthday

Happy Birthday Gerry! :0)
Keep those wheels turning!

Message: 13457 Posted: Tue Sep 12 05:07:20 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Gerry!

Happy marking of your natal anniversary! May "time" always stand still for you and yours!

TkH<-------all a "state of mind"

Message: 13456 Posted: Mon Sep 11 23:42:45 2000 By: daisyjane64
Subject: Happy Birthday Gerry!

Gerry,I hope that you have a great birthday.Keep up the good work that you and Dewey are doing.I w ish you many more great years to come. Lisa

Message: 13455 Posted: Mon Sep 11 21:58:38 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday, Gerry!

Yes, Nina, Gerry's birthday is on September 12th. I also want to wish Gerry the happiest of birthdays and a wish for continued strength and vitality as he keeps up his rigorous schedule. Keep cranking out that great music! --SteveL

P.S. If you ever want to know any of the band member's birthdays, just go to the biographies page on the America Fans web site and you'll find it listed there.

Message: 13454 Posted: Mon Sep 11 21:34:48 2000 By: Nina
Subject: Happy Birthday, Gerry!

For YEARS I mistakenly thought your birthday was on the 17th...but I'll trust Erin when she says it's TODAY! (After all, she's MUCH younger... and I trust HER memory better than MINE!) I hope you're home, surrounded by family and friends on your special day! Wrap yourself in the fan quilt and feel our best wishes flying your way! Have a great birthday!


Message: 13453 Posted: Mon Sep 11 20:07:50 2000 By: kiri
Subject: Re: Two More Concerts

last thursday i got an excused absence from my evening art class because (sadly) i had to go to a calling hours for a friend. now this thursday america is playing in waterloo...surely, that qualifies for an excused absence, right?!?! better yet, how bout the guys drop by even closer to home (illinois) on friday - don't have class then!....ah well, such is life.

Message: 13452 Posted: Mon Sep 11 19:32:57 2000 By: msmith
Subject: album cover & ...

favorite album cover--highway. if you only count lp's--history. in response to a question asked months ago hourglass vs. human nature, i've finally decided i like human nature best. about a delayed reaction, hunh!

Message: 13451 Posted: Mon Sep 11 18:19:10 2000 By: dreamoutloud
Subject: Re: A Day Early

Hi Erin! What's up? How have you been?

Message: 13450 Posted: Mon Sep 11 17:30:01 2000 By: Erin
Subject: A Day Early

Happy Birthday Gerry!! Have a GREAT day!!

Erin :o)

Message: 13449 Posted: Mon Sep 11 14:49:30 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: Those WERE the days....

I agree with kiri. "History" cover. Phil Hartman(n)'s greatest hit (in cover design, at least). I like a mix of both artsy and straight photo covers. Variety is nice.

Jim R.

Message: 13448 Posted: Mon Sep 11 14:34:20 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: Album Cover & Hourglass Downloads

Album Cover - I also like Holiday. And the sound in "What does it Matter" goes right along with the cover.

Hourglass can be downloaded in MP3 format from, an EMI outlet at $1.50 per song. Any other legitimate downlads available for America Tunes ? Any idea how much an Artists benefits for payed downloads ? I also saw that Warner plans to start releasing thier library via the Internet in the near future.

Message: 13447 Posted: Mon Sep 11 14:21:52 2000 By: Brandon Rose
Subject: Re: Favorite album cover.

Holiday ... This started the Sir George Martin/America era. You knew it was going to be special and it was!


Message: 13446 Posted: Mon Sep 11 11:00:59 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Oops!

"Somewhat alike"

Message: 13445 Posted: Mon Sep 11 09:45:02 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Sound Alikes

Good question, Cathy! I'm sure it's just me. I think "Moon Song" and "Cornwall Bank" sound same what alike. And of course, there's "Till The Sun Comes Up Again" and, if you stand on your head, "Now Sue".

Message: 13444 Posted: Mon Sep 11 08:47:36 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Two More Concerts

I just found out about two concerts that have been added to the schedule. I'll add them to the list as soon as I can, but they're coming up very soon so I'll post them here for your infomration:

Sept. 14 Waterloo, IA McElroy Auditorium
Sept. 24 Memphis, TN Mid-South Fair

Message: 13443 Posted: Mon Sep 11 07:31:53 2000 By: Cathy
Subject: double vision

Sorry for the double posting. While on the subject of "sound alikes": What two America tunes do you all think sound similar?

Message: 13442 Posted: Mon Sep 11 07:30:34 2000 By: Cathy
Subject: Re: Favorite album cover.

Homecoming -- especially the back with the silhouettes and the water touching the hills.

Message: 13441 Posted: Mon Sep 11 07:25:48 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Upcoming on Regis

Here's a link to the Upcoming Guests Page on the Live With Regis web site. Still no mention of our boys appearing this week but now we can all monitor the page to see if and when they'll be performing. --SteveL

Message: 13440 Posted: Mon Sep 11 07:22:38 2000 By: Cathy
Subject: Re: Favorite album cover.

Homecoming -- especially the back with the silhouettes and the water touching the hills.

Message: 13439 Posted: Mon Sep 11 07:00:10 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Favorite album cover.


Message: 13438 Posted: Mon Sep 11 04:56:24 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Amen Robyn!

You go girl! (C=
Those who can do, those who can't critique.......

TkH<-----has a problem with "authority figures"

Message: 13437 Posted: Sun Sep 10 20:44:06 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: "Another Try" Is Similar To Which Song...Allegedly

Mark and Robyn, I thought the Bowie song that the Washington Post reviewer said was similar to "Another Try" was the song, "Ziggy Stardust" from "The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars". I guess I'm all wet.

Message: 13436 Posted: Sun Sep 10 18:08:41 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: "Another Try" Is Similar To Which Song...Allegedly

I think that critic is the type of person who builds himself up by putting others down. His "ooh, look at the stuff I dug up" style was a sad attempt at showing us all how smart he is and how much trivia he knows. when all is said and done, however, this guy is just a stringer, not even a staffer for a newspaper. ( in other words he can't get a real job so he does this.)

Message: 13435 Posted: Sun Sep 10 17:46:52 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: "Another Try" Is Similar To Which Song...Allegedly

I have listened to Bowie's "Life On Mars" and while there may be some stylistic similarities with Another Try, they are really two completely different songs. I think this is just another bad rap from a critic.

Message: 13434 Posted: Sun Sep 10 16:51:22 2000 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Those WERE the days....

I really like most of their covers, but my all time fav has got to be Homecoming. I think it is one of the best album covers of all time.

Message: 13433 Posted: Sun Sep 10 16:28:47 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Jackpot Concert

Thanks for the wonderful review, Mike. It sounds like everyone had a great time. I would have loved to have been there. Oh well, maybe next year. I wish I would have known you were going to take the Human Nature posters to the concert - I would have given you a lot more to give away. I really want America fans to have them I just don't have a lot left (as you saw when you stopped by my house to pick yours up). Anyway, if there are any other Salt Lake City/Orem area fans who would like to stop by my house to pick up a Human Nature poster or two, I still have a few left. Just send me a mail message and let me know when you'll be in the area and I'll tell you how to get to my house. --Steve

Message: 13432 Posted: Sun Sep 10 15:48:24 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: We Can Now Add Two More

Add these two to the others:

Thunder in the canyon waking up the night
Black crow with an indigo glow on the HIGHWAY

James HOLLADAY was a working man
He made his living on the land

The others:

Well I'm coming home lady
I'm your HOMECOMING man

I know a place where we both can go
To set our HEARTS on fire

(GREAT HITS of the 60s)
t's only just a memory
Just a little HISTORY

When I first met you I was barely aLIVE
Had no direction baby you had to drive

Smell the perfume of the SILENT dream/
There on the table her LETTER lay

Chasing the prince of ALIBIs
Into a smokescreen made of lies

A quiet beauty not like just any girl
Moving slowly from the dark into VIEW

With the advantage of PERSPECTIVE I
See there's more to you than meets the eye

Message: 13431 Posted: Sun Sep 10 14:13:41 2000 By: Tom T.
Subject: Re: Those WERE the days....

Hello! I always loved the "Hat Trick" cover because the entire Album package had so much included. The inner sleeve, and the poster were really great. I also loved the concept of the "Holiday" cover. But the most impressive cover for me is the front cover of "Harbor". The photography is wonderful- it really captures the vibe of the LP. I remember the day it was released, I went to this little favorite record store of mine and the woman who worked there said, as soon as I walked in, "You're gonna Love the new AMERICA album because it looks so beautiful." Yes she was a little "mellow" (it was 1977, after all) but I must say I agreed with her.)("Mellow" meaning I could smell something other than incense burning in her store-LOL).

Message: 13430 Posted: Sat Sep 09 19:00:23 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Those WERE the days....

Well Duuuuuuuuh, Dr.H. I forgot to answer my own query.....This has been one busy month, I

I love Holiday. The photography, the concept (photograph and frame) and the song to match. A nice piece of work to the concept artists involved!!!!! I too also love the History Artwork! Mr. Hartmann was quite multi-talented!!!!!

TkH<------I dream of doll heads every once in a!!

Message: 13429 Posted: Sat Sep 09 18:45:38 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: Jackpot Concert

Just got back from a great weekend date with my wife. Finally, I got my annual America Live fix in Jackpot on Friday night. Wow! My senses were bathed in good vibrations. Close cozy atmosphere. Sat right in front of the stage below Dewey and Gerry for the second set and about 30 feet back at eye level for the first set. They played about 17 songs in each set, but changed three of the songs in the second set for the handful of us FANS that saw both sets. First set – Windwave, Wednesday Morning, & Never be Lonely were replaced with, And Forever, Wheels, and Things we Said Today in the second set. It was great to hear “Windwave” and “And Forever” live for the first time. Besides the standards from History they played their opening “Riverside”, “Three Roses”, and “California Dreamin” in both sets.

I talked to obvious Fans after both sets, and passed out Human Nature Posters to a few Fans that hadn’t heard of the CD until Gerry plugged both Human Nature and the Rhino Box set during the show. I met a Fan from Salt Lake City who attended both shows. He said he had seen America over 30 times and was staying for the two additional sets to be played Saturday night. I also talked with an elated 13-year-old boy who attended his first America show with Dad. He kept ranting how the show was the best time he had ever had, and was all smiles. Reminded me of my first show in the 70’s.

I also got the chance to give a quick personal thanks to each Band Member as he left the venue. Dewey, Gerry, Michael (“shivers up and down my spine”), and Brad. On the way back to my room Willie stepped into the casino elevator with me, and had to put up with my gratitude for a very short ride.

Mike Bunn

P.S. Shirts, Hats, History, Van-Go-Gan, and Go-Man-Go were on sale at the concert.

Message: 13428 Posted: Sat Sep 09 18:21:18 2000 By: kiri
Subject: album covers; nina

does anyone else favor the “history” cover art? maybe down the road we could have a contest for the best artistic copy of an album cover...or the best original design for their next release? i’m too unskilled for Howard’s contest (sigh)

nina - thanks for asking - hope all you teachers are settling in comfortably. i feel a little culture shocked to tell you the truth; like a spy who is only on a mission to infiltrate another land, collect data, and report back to the organization where i belong. i miss teaching more than i thought i would but am equally pleased to be where i am now. maybe you teachers on the folder can toss me some details from time to time to either let me happily reminisce or remind me of what i’m not missing! depends on the day, doesn’t it!

Message: 13427 Posted: Sat Sep 09 18:16:08 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: Music...

I still can't get over what a great song GOODBYE HIGHWAY is. VAN GO GAN version being my favorite. Also, I appreciate the GO MAN GO cd for its remixed songs.

The lone America fan in southeastern Ohio...Jeff Brink

Message: 13426 Posted: Sat Sep 09 16:45:20 2000 By: Steve
Subject: Re: Those WERE the days....

HOMECOMING...They look so young and full of the future...

Message: 13425 Posted: Sat Sep 09 14:16:25 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Those WERE the days....

I love the Homecoming cover. I remember my mom bought it for me for Christmas and remember thinking how cool my mom had become!

Message: 13424 Posted: Sat Sep 09 14:12:10 2000 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Those WERE the days....

I've always liked Alibi...that doll head is really cool. I also like Human Nature and Hourglass covers.

Erin :o)

Message: 13423 Posted: Sat Sep 09 13:53:14 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: This and That...

Thanks Nina!!

Message: 13422 Posted: Sat Sep 09 13:51:58 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Doug/elusive?

Wake up from an elusive dream
You've got to change the scene

Well, I know Doug didn't mean reclusive! (LOL).

Message: 13421 Posted: Sat Sep 09 13:49:30 2000 By: Nina
Subject: This and That...

Hi all! Been REALLY busy since school started, but wanted to stop in and check out all the info. on the folder...WOW...lots going on!

Alan...I'll probably be at the Topsfield Fair on the 7th, as my 5 year old nephew is a budding America fan and wants to see them sing IN PERSON his favorites: "Tin Man", "HWNN", "Sandman", (and "SGH", in honor of his little blond sister!!!!) I keep trying to tell him that we are NOT getting on a plane to go to California to see America...but he's convinced that we are flying, although Topsfield is about 1 and a half hours from my home in Massachusetts! This ought to be interesting! Anyway, Alan, I don't know if I'll be there at night...but I'll be there in the afternoon because I "think" there is a 2 PM show. As the date gets closer, I'll know for sure if I'm going to maybe I'll see you! (I know that Gary H from Texas is planning on attending, too!)

My favorite album cover is Hearts...Gerry, Dewey, and Dan all look good....and there's the Golden Gate Bridge in the background, reminding me of my first BIG trip on a PLANE to LA and San Francisco!!! (Hey, I think I just figured out WHY my nephew thinks we're "flying" to see America!)

Re: America on Regis...If anyone can pinpoint the date, I'd appreciate it. So far...we think it's Thursday, right?

Johnny...sooooooo glad you're still with us!

Kiri...I'm curious as to how your new non-teaching job is going?
Must be a bit of an adjustment, I'm sure!

Sorry this post was so long! Can't wait to hear all of you fellow fans sing and play the songs we love from the America catalog. I'm tempted...but I'm certainly no musician!

Message: 13420 Posted: Sat Sep 09 11:25:26 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Doug/elusive?

I am elusive? How so?

TkH<---------puzzlement. Mark your calendars!!! LOL

Message: 13419 Posted: Sat Sep 09 10:59:16 2000 By: kiri
Subject: Re: Those WERE the days....

i dig america...i dug hartman...history cover.

Message: 13418 Posted: Sat Sep 09 10:45:32 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Those WERE the days....

For me, that's an easy one. My favorite is "Homecoming"! I love the orange sky and the contrast of Mother Nature on the left and the smoggy city life on the right. The large fold-out is very cool as well as the extra inner photo of the guys. I also like Dan and Gerry's Levi jackets. Gerry's white shirt with the red circle along with his blue denim jacket, is very 'America' looking. You, white, and blue. Plus, I like Dewey's long hippie hair. Well Beechlady, you asked. (LOL)

Message: 13417 Posted: Sat Sep 09 09:37:54 2000 By: Doug
Subject: Re: Those WERE the days....

ahhhh, the elusive Beechlady. I like the cover of the first album. The faces of those Native Americans says it all doesn't it?


Message: 13416 Posted: Sat Sep 09 07:50:06 2000 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Those WERE the days....

I believe this has been covered before but I'd like to here some more opinions. Even though there is no picture of the band on it's cover I always liked Harbor. The color and beauty of it just puts me in a mellow frame. DanC.

Message: 13415 Posted: Sat Sep 09 07:37:50 2000 By: Beth
Subject: Bass guitar

Anyone know how I can figure chords for bass guitar on our boys' tunes?

Message: 13414 Posted: Sat Sep 09 06:24:03 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Those WERE the days....

Ahhhhhh, are we all old enough to remember the days of vinyl? I sit here in my scratched up dust covered haze listening to, yes, a RECORD....(wow) This brings me to an oft brought up point in the "advantages over CD" catagory.......COVER ART.

Which America Cover do you like the best? Do you prefer the artsy-fartsy covers (History, Alibi, Human Nature, or do you like the straight photography (just about all the rest). Do you have a parTICular favorite? Why?

Dr.TkH<------delving into the inquiring minds

Message: 13413 Posted: Fri Sep 08 21:53:13 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: King Biscuit Banner

Thanks guys!

Message: 13412 Posted: Fri Sep 08 20:31:05 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: King Biscuit Banner

Robyn, the information that Johnny gave you is correct for the chat folder. For the web site itself, use the following link (be sure to bookmark it) to access the web site and then the header will go away completely:


Message: 13411 Posted: Fri Sep 08 17:33:50 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: off the subject

...I don't remember who asked me...but someone on the chat folder asked me a few months ago were they could see "Little Chris and The Night Crawlers" Play....good news....they are playing every Friday night in September at the Temecula Promenade Mall from 6PM till show...good blues...

sorry I forgot...was it Shari? or maybe Robyn

Message: 13410 Posted: Fri Sep 08 17:19:15 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: Re: to keep or not to keep...thats a question?

..I give Dewey thumbs up for the goat.....not much silver in it....

Message: 13409 Posted: Fri Sep 08 17:16:01 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: The King Biscuit Banner

Robyn, Steve's suggestion to by-pass the banner is to use:

Message: 13408 Posted: Fri Sep 08 16:58:43 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: to keep or not to keep...thats a question?

Dewey with facial hair: VERY GOOD

Dewey without facial hair: EXCEPTIONAL

That sums up my thinking on this matter.


Message: 13407 Posted: Fri Sep 08 15:57:53 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: King Biscuit Banner

Is it just me or does this happen to everyone? When you click on a file on the Fans page, the banner replicates, leaving you with about 2 1/2/ inches of text. That is really annoying! I realize they are sponsoring the site, but it is rendering it almost useless. Steve?????

Message: 13406 Posted: Fri Sep 08 14:52:35 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: to keep or not to keep...thats a question?

And I am of the opinion that Dewey's beard hides a very nice face!

Message: 13405 Posted: Fri Sep 08 14:38:40 2000 By: Alan
Subject: I'm so proud

I just wanted to share with you a story about my 15 (soon to be 16) year old daughter. She has an English teacher that lets kids bring any CD they want to listen to during study time.

Yesterday was her turn and her biggest dilemma was WHICH America CD to bring to class. She finally decided on Human Nature. I'm sure SHE ended up giving her classmates an education!

Every once in a while something like this happens that makes me think I am actually doing something right as a parent.


Message: 13404 Posted: Fri Sep 08 13:51:00 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: Re: to keep or not to keep...thats a question?

Yes, he "needs" facial hair. The goatee looks great.

Jim R.
Another "bearded" American

Message: 13403 Posted: Fri Sep 08 13:23:29 2000 By: Dan
Subject: Re: piano chords

Hey, great, thanks John. DanC.

Message: 13402 Posted: Fri Sep 08 12:20:32 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: piano chords

I just use the guitar chords that Steve has listed on the Fans site.

Message: 13401 Posted: Fri Sep 08 11:43:48 2000 By: Dan
Subject: piano chords

Can anyone tell me how to get my hands on piano chords for our boys' tunes? My 15 yearold has finally heard the songs so many times that she now would like to learn a few on piano. And I don't want to discourage that kind of thinking. Thanks. DanC.

Message: 13400 Posted: Fri Sep 08 11:32:00 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Beechlady

Oh, HOWARD........{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Howard}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

you my man!!!! (C;

TkH<----------midi goddess? HA!

Message: 13399 Posted: Fri Sep 08 10:15:23 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: "Another Try" Is Similar To Which Song...Allegedly

the title is "Life on MArs?" It is from the 1971 ( I think ) album Hynky Dory. I haven't heard the song, so I don't really know if it is similar. Any big early Bowie fans out there?

Message: 13398 Posted: Fri Sep 08 09:05:46 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: "Another Try" Is Similar To Which Song...Allegedly

Does anyone remember exactly which song it is that the Washington Post reviewer said "Another Try" was similar to? I believe he said David Bowie's "Ziggy Stardust" but I'm not sure.

Well, I bought Bowie's cassette with that song on it at a garage sale today for 75 cents just so I could listen to that song and judge for myself. If someone can tell me, I'd really appreciate it.

Message: 13397 Posted: Fri Sep 08 07:40:37 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Beechlady

I'll make an exception for Tery, you're so cool, how
can we resist you :00

Message: 13396 Posted: Fri Sep 08 07:22:11 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Bubbles, TMI, OFF SUBJECT

You can still make bubbles in the shower, just have to be a little CREATIVE.....ROFL

TkH<-------couldn't RESIST that one, sorry!

Message: 13395 Posted: Fri Sep 08 07:17:21 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Number of Entries

>>And to think I spent days trying to figure out which song I should do.

Oh GREAT. I spent two days frying brain cells and now I find out I could have done, like 20 or 30? UGH.....rofl! Now my brain juices are REALLY spurting high octane,,,,,,,hmmmmmmm, a classical instrumental version of "Hangover" or a Rap version of "Miniature".....


TkH<-------THOSE were the days......

Message: 13394 Posted: Fri Sep 08 07:13:29 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: to keep or not to keep...thats a question?

I've always felt I looked better WITH a, wait a minute...sorry.....I think men with facial hair RULE,!!!!
But according to the husband, they itch and what ever flips his pancakes is cool with me!

TkH<--------Guys like us we had it maaaaade,,,,,

Message: 13393 Posted: Fri Sep 08 07:06:32 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Contest Setup

Wellllllll Howard,,,,,,,,,,Unplugged for me would mean spoons and a washboard! I hope Midi can count in this (seeing how I've already sent it...rofl) As for "how did everyone else approach it", I just went slap bam boom. One take for everything, take it or (preferably-as you'll soon note) leave it.....ROFL!

TkH<-----swooongs that made the HIT parade....

Message: 13392 Posted: Fri Sep 08 04:48:40 2000 By: Pat B.
Subject: Number of Entries

>>>>>Howard: "..I'm not limiting the number of entries."<<<<<

Oh goodie! Everybody, including myself, has just been granted permission to record the ENTIRE America Song Catalog! yEaH!

And to think I spent days trying to figure out which song I should do.

Thanks Howard.

Message: 13391 Posted: Fri Sep 08 04:38:24 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Re: to keep or not to keep...thats a question?

While I think a goatee looks good on some people (my best friend has one and it looks great on him), I think Dewey looks better without it.

Thanks Johnny for the welcome back. I wasn't sure anyone would even remember me, having been absent for so long. I figured if anyone would remember though, you would.


Message: 13390 Posted: Thu Sep 07 21:49:44 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: to keep or not to keep...thats a question?

Steve, either way, Sir D looks great. I missed his hippie hair for the longest time. I like it on "Silent Letter". On it, Dewey has a "Jesus look". Well, I believe he can walk on water! (LOL)

Friends who I haven't seen in a while, have said to me, "Wow, your hair's starting to gray." I tell them, "It don't matter (Southwestern talk) as long as I still have hair! I can always dye it but if it ain't there then I'll start to care ."

Welcome back, Alan. You've only missed a few low-blows here and there. Otherwise, it's been pretty "Steady Freddy".

Message: 13389 Posted: Thu Sep 07 20:53:19 2000 By: Dan
Subject: Re: to keep or not to keep...thats a question?

Maybe it's possible Mr. Bunnell doesn't sport facial hair any longer for the same reason I no longer do after 20 years ; the white, silver, and or gray that invaded it makes me look older than my 44 years. Rock on Santa. DanC.

Message: 13388 Posted: Thu Sep 07 20:30:26 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: to keep or not to keep...thats a question?

When I saw the August 24 show in Delaware, Dewey was had no beard. That's fine because that looks better on almost everyone, IMHO


Message: 13387 Posted: Thu Sep 07 17:22:20 2000 By: Alan
Subject: Topsfield Fair

Anyone from the Chat Folder planning to see America at Topsfield Fair either the 6th or 7th? I am tentatively going on the 7th.

Message: 13386 Posted: Thu Sep 07 16:15:52 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: to keep or not to keep...thats a question?

IMHO, a goatee makes the wearer look a lot like animal which inspired it's name. Lose the goatee, Dewey! ( My vote and $2.50 will get you a SMALL cup of coffee at Starbucks)

Message: 13385 Posted: Thu Sep 07 15:56:32 2000 By: Steve
Subject: to keep or not to keep...thats a question?

I vote that Dewey keep the goatee....what do ya think?

Message: 13384 Posted: Thu Sep 07 13:50:59 2000 By: Alan
Subject: It's EVERYBODY'S fault!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been absent from the Chat Folder most of the summer, and lurking for the last month or so. I am sorry to hear that Johhny and Beechlady have been the victims of multiple flamings from a fellow America fan.

Now I understand that everything from the depletion of the rain forests to the predicted skyrocketing prices of heating oil this winter is Johnny's fault.

Well personally, my absence from here is EVERYBODY's fault. I have been trying desperately to get caught up on all the posts so I could post a few of my own. But every time I have a few spare minutes, I have SOOO many new posts to wade through (and I've got to, just in case I might miss something really important like Howard's contest) that by the time I get through them all, I don't have time to post anything myself!!!

Now if you people would all stop posting long enough for me to get a post in edgewise....

There, I feel much better having gotten that off my chest.


P.S. In case there is even a shred of doubt in anyone's mind, this rant was meant in the same spirit as the "It's Johnny's Fault" series of posts a week or so ago. Although there is much truth to what I said, I think it's great that there is much more participation than when I left early this summer (at least it sure seems that way to me).

Message: 13383 Posted: Thu Sep 07 13:43:55 2000 By: KevinS.
Subject: Democratic Convention.

It must have been hard to find a hooker during the Convention, too.


Message: 13382 Posted: Thu Sep 07 12:04:58 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: New York City..What A Mess!!!

I can relate Howard. Try getting ANYWHERE down town during the Oscars or the Democratic Convention!!!!!

Message: 13381 Posted: Thu Sep 07 11:55:45 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Leaky Canoe

Hey, by all means...still record the Ventura Highway
with your friends and send it in. the more the merrier.
I'm not limiting the number of entries.

Message: 13380 Posted: Thu Sep 07 11:49:01 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re: How is everyone else approaching this?

well Pat.....originally I was going to get together with a couple of friends and try to record Ventura Highway..three guitars and harmony vocals......but....I ran across a very unplugged recording of Donkey was recorded on a small tape recorder by my Uncle at a family reunion in was late in the evening and several of us were playing guitars around a campfire (Lake Ballards in Northern 299 West of Alturas)...we had drank a few beers and got on this America kick and recorded hangover, Riverside, and Donkey really is quit funny...flat key singing...joking around...but I kinda liked the way Donkey Jaw came I decided to send it in....I may send the other songs in if you guys want a good laugh...remember all were inspired by good beer....(we related to hangover the following morning)...

Message: 13379 Posted: Thu Sep 07 11:07:25 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: New York City..What A Mess!!!

Just passed by Radio City Music Hall on 51st Street.
Tonight is the VMA Awards. All celebrities are coming in,
teenagers jamming the streets, so I went into the local
Coconuts to take a breather and guess who's in Coconuts
signing autographs....America.......just kidding!!!

S P I N A L T A P! WOW..OOH...AHHH!!!! and I walked out.

Message: 13378 Posted: Thu Sep 07 10:16:48 2000 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Bubbles

Okay, Johnny.
(Too much information!)
ShariL <><

Message: 13377 Posted: Thu Sep 07 09:00:59 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: I'll Go With The Bubbles

Howard, good idea! I think I'll go with the bubble sounds. Otherwise, I'd have to drive out to the local dairy, which of course is "In The Country", and chase me down a cow to borrow its bell.

I do promise that the sound of bubbles WON"T be produced the way they were when I was a kid. As an adult, I shower rather than bathe. (LOL)

Message: 13376 Posted: Thu Sep 07 07:47:12 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Contest Setup

My friend has a 4 track vintage cassette recorder (he's got alot of old, cool stuff) I think we might go w/that, need to build my fingers up, never was a good guitarist, allways ran sound for other musicians, which was a great experience, & alot of fun.
GREAT NEWS about Regis!!!

Message: 13375 Posted: Thu Sep 07 06:07:50 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Contest Setup


Message: 13374 Posted: Thu Sep 07 06:02:13 2000 By: Pat B.
Subject: Perform Live On Stage With America

Excellent suggestion Leaky! Now THAT'S a Grand Prize! LOL!
Even though it's probably just a dream; I'm granting myself full permission to completely immerse myself in that ultimate fantasy!
Nothing, absolutely nothing else on planet Earth, not even winning a billion dollars from a lottery, could ever compare with that experience. It sure would make my life complete!

Message: 13373 Posted: Thu Sep 07 05:58:01 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: re:howards contest - deadline

I've recorded "Wheels" and "Wednesday Morning" on a table top cassette recorder since thats all I have. Hearing back the poor recording quality and my voice make me cringe. I might need a dealine to get me to send one of them to Howard for others to hear. Not sure I want to come out of the closet.

Message: 13372 Posted: Thu Sep 07 05:36:01 2000 By: Pat B.
Subject: Howard's Contest

Hey Howard;

How 'produced' do you want the songs to be?
I can get some muscians together and go in the studio, or; I can record just guitar and vocals.
The full production will obviously take more time. I'm leaning toward the guitar/vocals setup, actually.

How is everyone else approaching this?

Message: 13371 Posted: Thu Sep 07 05:20:51 2000 By: Pat B.
Subject: Re: Opening Chords to Tin Man

Hi Scott!

Not only do I know the 2 opening chords for Tin Man, but more importantly; I know the exact inversions! (according to my ears). I can still recall the joy I felt the day I figured them out! You are going to love these chords:

Chord #1: D dominant 9th suspended; use the first 4 strings.
D string: open (tonic)
G string: finger the C note (the b7th) on the 5th fret.
B string: finger the E note (the 9th) on the 5th fret.
E string: finger the G note (the 4th) on the 3rd fret.

Chord #2: D dominant 9th; again, same 4 strings.
D string: open (tonic)
G string: finger the C note (the b7th) on the 5th fret. same as above
B string: finger the D note (octave) on the 3rd fret.
E string: finger the A note (the 5th) on the 5th fret.

And just because you are a fellow America fan as I am; I'm going to give you extra bonus inversions for the rest of the song, which I was able to see as I watched Gerry playing them, from my recent front row seat in Wallingford CT:

G major 7th:
bottom E string: finger the G note using your thumb.
A string: deaden this string by using your thumb.
D string: finger the G note on the 5th fret by using your pinky.
G string: finger the B note on the 4th fret using your ring finger.
B string: finger the D note on the 3rd fret using your middle finger.
top E string: finger the F# note on the 2nd fret using your index finger.

C major 7th:
A string: finger the C note on the 3rd fret using your index finger.
D string: finger the G note on the 5th fret using your ring finger.
G string: finger the B note on the 4th fret using your middle finger.
B string: finger the E note on the 5th fret using your pinky.
E string: finger the G note on the 3rd fret by barring with your index.

I hope this helps you out.

Message: 13370 Posted: Thu Sep 07 05:15:02 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: SteveL again & contest deadline.

Steve, just send your entry to me.
oops sorry. I meant "Well maybe all of us are"

Johnny, make some bubble sounds or duplicate the cowbell
in the country or hey, try to duplicate the traffic
sounds from "Hollywood." Make your own traffic jam
outside your window like the guys did. :0)

Contest deadline. There's really no set deadline.
I know everyone is busy with life, families, everyday
life, etc. I would love to get around 50+ entries.
I'll play it by ear.

Message: 13369 Posted: Thu Sep 07 05:08:39 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: SteveL

Aren't we all amateurs???????????????? :0)
(well maybe some of us)

Message: 13368 Posted: Wed Sep 06 21:39:36 2000 By: Erin
Subject: Re: AMERICA on Regis Philbin

I work at a TV station and we get the promos for Regis pretty early, so I'll keep and eye out for the boys. AWESOME news...thanks Jim!

Erin :o)

Message: 13367 Posted: Wed Sep 06 21:14:29 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: AMERICA on Regis Philbin

Cool news, Jim!!!

Message: 13366 Posted: Wed Sep 06 21:05:06 2000 By: Beth
Subject: contest again

Howie, any deadline on our entries?

Message: 13365 Posted: Wed Sep 06 21:04:14 2000 By: jimnak
Subject: AMERICA on Regis Philbin

AMERICA is scheduled to tape a Regis show next week, somewhere around Thursday. So please set your VCR's around that time, of course the day is subject to change, perhaps this Sunday's TV guide will pin the day down. As you may know, they appeared on the show a few years ago for a nice boost for HOURGLASS. GO AMERICA !!! HIGHWAY !!!

Message: 13364 Posted: Wed Sep 06 20:49:30 2000 By: Beth
Subject: howie's contest

Hello Good People!
Life is tooooo busy here in Soccer Mom Country! But anyhoo....I'll see if I can talk my buddies in our basement band into cutting a demo-entry. Name of our band, "Slow Children At Play" I just have to share that, cuz I get such a kick outta it! If successful, we'll try California Dreamin. Stay Tuned!

Message: 13363 Posted: Wed Sep 06 19:29:10 2000 By: EDDY
Subject: re:howards contest

Ahhh.... this will give me a chance to try out my 12 string Rickenbacker I've been ignoring..... mine will DEFINATELEY be instrumental..... this should be fun! Time to look for songs.......

Message: 13362 Posted: Wed Sep 06 19:09:06 2000 By: Joe Knight
Subject: singing

Hey guys I won a Karaoke contest sing "Horse" a few years ago. That was the first song I ever sang in front of live people LOL Joe K

Message: 13361 Posted: Wed Sep 06 17:53:33 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: GOOD GWAD Y'ALL

Jumpin' G Hosafats Mr. Lowry. HAVEN'T YOU BEEN THRU ENOUGH JOB CHANGES? Novell are you LISTENING?

TkH<---------parcel's in the mail Mr. Lieboff!!! (C=

Message: 13360 Posted: Wed Sep 06 17:46:04 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Opening Chords to Tin Man

according to Mr. Piano Book of Holiday the opening chords to the first 4 bars are

Gmaj7 Cmaj7

I'm just going by the Warners Book "Holiday"....

TkH<------too tired to pop

Message: 13359 Posted: Wed Sep 06 17:45:36 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Opening Chords to Tin Man

according to Mr. Piano Book of Holiday the opening chords to the first 4 bars are

Gmaj7 Cmaj7

I'm just going by the Warners Book "Holiday"....

TkH<------too tired to pop

Message: 13358 Posted: Wed Sep 06 17:37:54 2000 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Erin On Piano

Really? I hope I can remember it!
Thanks Johnny!

Erin :o)

Message: 13357 Posted: Wed Sep 06 17:23:25 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Erin On Piano

Erin, "Watership Down" on piano? Ooooh, Yeah!!! Definitely!

Message: 13356 Posted: Wed Sep 06 16:40:31 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re:howards contest

...grand prize = "perform live with America"...good idea Howard but I would suggest...rather than perform the copy of one of America's songs......let one of us join the band on stage during Horse.....wouldn't you love to be the lucky one to do the guitar salute with Gerry, Dewey, Brad, and Mike....good luck working that one out.....

Message: 13355 Posted: Wed Sep 06 15:54:56 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: uh hum?

Well, Howie, I'll have to see how things go. Novell just laid off 16% of it's work force today (I'm still employed, fortunately), and we're going to be real busy the next few months trying to do the same amount of work with fewer people. Besides, when I say I'm an amateur guitar player, I mean AMATEUR. I could probably do Muskrat Love which only uses a few easy chords (and which I really like), but I'd probably be made into a stew or some other delicacy if I did that (LOL). I'll think about it... --SteveL

Message: 13354 Posted: Wed Sep 06 15:43:29 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: Song choice

Ah, Johnny, I'm not sure you really want to hear my rendition of Jody. Although it would make others appreciate America's version a whole lot more.
Better go download some chords.

Message: 13353 Posted: Wed Sep 06 14:58:36 2000 By: Erin
Subject: re:howards contest

So do you have to sing? Or can it just be instrumental? I can play Watership Down on the piano....that's about it. I definitely CANNOT sing. I guess I probably missed the rules somewhere along the way. Hope everyone's having a great day!

Erin :o)

Message: 13352 Posted: Wed Sep 06 14:19:44 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Opening Chords to Tin Man

I suspect that the opening chords are either Am7 to D
or perhaps C to D. Tell me what you think. :)


Message: 13351 Posted: Wed Sep 06 13:19:30 2000 By: Scott
Subject: Opening Chords to Tin Man

Anybody know the first 2 opening chords to Tin Man
before they go into Gmaj7, Dmaj7????

Message: 13350 Posted: Wed Sep 06 13:13:48 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: uh hum?

Mr. Steve L...
Can we expect an entry soundclip from you????

Message: 13349 Posted: Wed Sep 06 11:26:38 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: John L's Song Choice

John, I hope you perform "Jody". I would love to hear it!!

Message: 13348 Posted: Wed Sep 06 10:20:06 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: re:distressed mooses & Grateful Muskrats

Hey Andy-- maybe we should get an act together. My voice is like Mickey Mouse in a high speed blender.

If the Dead did Muskrat Love, do you think it would have been "Musrkat Free Love" or "Don't Bogart that Muskrat" Just Wondering.

For the bubbles sound-- break out the Hookah!

Message: 13347 Posted: Wed Sep 06 10:02:55 2000 By: John Lussier
Subject: re:howards contest

Might try Goodbye Highway, Sarah, Today's the Day, Jody. Haven't decided yet. Hey, I like my voice....problem is nobody else does.

Message: 13346 Posted: Wed Sep 06 09:09:36 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Gerry 12-strings and Horse

Either Howards plausible explaination, OR the electrical-in-the-elements factor.......(C= }

TkH<-----------"Bowy the way Glenn Millah Plawyed"

Message: 13345 Posted: Wed Sep 06 09:07:06 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: re:distressed mooses

Um, NICE ANDY!!!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

But I can TOP "Mooses" (Hmmmmm, plural Moose.....Meeses?) with intestinal distress. Try living with a Lab with intestinal distress.......yikes. No sleepy in MY roomy for the night.....ACK.

TkH<-----awaking from the fog of

Message: 13344 Posted: Wed Sep 06 05:31:07 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: 12 string

Mark, I have no idea why. Maybe both instruments sound better in
bigger or smaller venues. That's my guess.
But the Taylor Acoustic 12 string and Rickenbacker Electric 12 string.
Both sweet sounding instruments.

Message: 13343 Posted: Tue Sep 05 21:09:17 2000 By: Mark McVey
Subject: Gerry 12-strings and Horse

I have a question. I have been meaning to post this, but have been out of the loop lately. Over the last few years I've seen the guys about six times at indoor and outdoor venues. I've noticed that at the indoor shows that Gerry plays the acoustic 12 string on Horse and at the outdoor shows he plays an electric 12 string on Horse. I'm just wondering if there's a reason why he does this? Maybe it's just random???

Thank you, Mark (InKC-yawn)...

Message: 13342 Posted: Tue Sep 05 20:27:30 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: re:howards contest / correction

Okay folks, my one milliwatt brain was out to lunch.
I can't play DONKEY JAW...I never could. I meant to say RAINY DAY. That was the reason that I first picked up a guitar.


Message: 13341 Posted: Tue Sep 05 20:23:46 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: re:howards contest

I'm thinking of
1.) DONKEY JAW- The reason I first picked up a guitar.

2.) SUBMARINE LADIES- I just love that one...Now if only I could
figure out how to get those bubbles recorded ! LOL


*WARNING TO ALL: My voice is a nasty cross between Edith Bunker, a moose with severe intestinal distress, and a blender grinding up metal screws. Please sample with an empty tummy...or one of those handy bags they give you on airplanes...... LOL


Message: 13340 Posted: Tue Sep 05 17:33:56 2000 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: New York Times ad

"C & T's version just SEEMED 9 minutes long!"

Ummm... Did the Greatful Dead have a version that I'm not aware of? LOL


Message: 13339 Posted: Tue Sep 05 17:18:11 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re:howards contest

ditto beechlady...I hate my cringe.....but I shall bite my lip and submit a tape may hear a few dogs howling in the background.....

Message: 13338 Posted: Tue Sep 05 16:58:32 2000 By: Bones
Subject: Re: "America" loves Connecticut

Why does America love Connecticut? It's really simple - "EAST COAST" fans are the best in the world. Just my humble opinion.

Message: 13337 Posted: Tue Sep 05 15:22:05 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: deadline and address

Perform it at a concert, Howard??? YIKES, DUDE!!!!! Not even in my WILDEST DREAMS will that happen, I'm

TkH<-----------trance jazz

Message: 13336 Posted: Tue Sep 05 15:20:40 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re:Mr. Lieboffs Contest

I'm trying my hand at Tin Man......

TkH<------I cringe when I hear my voice, tho.....SIGH

Message: 13335 Posted: Tue Sep 05 14:43:51 2000 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: video footage

You know, I kept meaning to ask this question but I kept forgetting. So here goes:

What original promotional video material is still available on America? I'm referring to the two video clips I have seen since the dawn of MTV (for "You Can Do Magic" and "The Border"), plus whatever music videos I never saw. A clip from the "...Magic" video was in that 1999 VH-1 "Where are They Now" segment I taped last week, and "The Border" video currently resides only in my memory. (I saw it when "The Border" was first released as a single in 1983. I recall that the video basically had a beachside setting that eventually recreates the scene from the "Your Move" album cover, where Dewey and Gerry are playing Chinese Checkers.)

Jim R.

Message: 13334 Posted: Tue Sep 05 14:05:09 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: If You Receive Any Flames...

As you all know, Beechlady and I have been the recent victim of a very cowardly flamer. Talking about humble pie, he's been eating his share the last couple of days. He continued to send Beechlady and me more of his flames. Robyn and Steve have even received a few from him. Because he continued to send us messages, he only provided me with more data that helped me to prove his guilt.

He used Hotmail hoping to conceal his identity but he wasn't smart enough. He didn't cover all of his tracks.

If you happen to receive strange e-mail with the sender pretending to be me, don't delete it but forward it to me. We'll also turn this information in to the proper authority.

Message: 13333 Posted: Tue Sep 05 13:11:43 2000 By: paul
Subject: humble pie

Does anyone know if there is a video of HP? I want my 16 yr old guitarist to see Frampton and Mariott.



Message: 13332 Posted: Tue Sep 05 11:36:53 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: C&T

you mean "The Captain & The Toenail."
(Dewey's favorite opening reference of the song to the audience)

Message: 13331 Posted: Tue Sep 05 11:31:25 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: New York Times ad

C & T's version just SEEMED 9 minutes long!

Message: 13330 Posted: Tue Sep 05 09:56:19 2000 By: dofd
Subject: New York Times ad

full-color ad in back of C section of the national edition for IBM e-business. The text reads: "I'll never make anyone listen to Muskrat Love for 9 minutes while I check with the shipping department again." Doesn't say whose version of the song, though I don't think America's was 9 minutes long.

Message: 13329 Posted: Tue Sep 05 09:00:38 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: deadline and address

Since I (and anybody) don't like to list my address
on this site, even though it would make it easier to do.
Please email me at I just signed up for it
a couple of weeks ago, instead of being bombarded on my AOL account
of which I'm thinking of dumping very very soon.

Deadline?...I don't know!...I'm winging it as we go.
I want to see how many responses I get.
I would love to get as many as I can.
I'm really looking forward to this.

Wouldn't that be great if Gerry, Dewey and Dan
could be the judges! Now that's an idea.
And the winner could perform it in concert!
Now, that's going to far. Only dreaming :0)
cya, HL

Message: 13328 Posted: Tue Sep 05 08:43:06 2000 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: Re:Mr. Lieboffs Contest

I'm thinking one of Dan's songs.....Donkey Jaw

Message: 13327 Posted: Tue Sep 05 07:47:05 2000 By: Cathy
Subject: Re: Mr. Lieboffs Contest

Since I'm from New Mexico, I'd love to do "Wheels" but it's a bit over my head. My friends have all given their rousing approval for "Muskrat Love"!!! but I think the winner for me will be "Riverside" since it was the very first song I ever learned to play and maybe I won't be half bad.

Howard, when's the deadline and where do we send our great works?

Message: 13326 Posted: Tue Sep 05 06:32:37 2000 By: Pat B.
Subject: Re: Mr. Lieboffs Contest

i'm going to give "i need you" a try.

Message: 13325 Posted: Mon Sep 04 19:52:59 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Hope

all of our friends in the Napa Valley are doing ok. a 5.2 just gets our attention down here in Shakytown. ;) My thoughts are with you.

Message: 13324 Posted: Mon Sep 04 14:32:34 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Mr. Lieboffs Contest

Who is going to "submit" a song to Howard's contest?

I can't WAIT to hear any and EVERYTHING!

TkH<---got one of my own brewing.....

Message: 13323 Posted: Mon Sep 04 13:07:13 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: "America" loves Connecticut

Yes, it is all free but the lines are tremendous!!!! We should all meet there early. I am going. I know Andy is too. Anyone else?

Message: 13322 Posted: Mon Sep 04 13:07:13 2000 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: "America" loves Connecticut

Yes, it is all free but the lines are tremendous!!!! We should all meet there early. I am going. I know Andy is too. Anyone else?

Message: 13321 Posted: Mon Sep 04 06:44:32 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Heinie

Well I'm not sure thats the "elusive" spelling, but it works for! Besides it takes me back to college....

TkH<---Barry who?

Message: 13320 Posted: Mon Sep 04 06:42:50 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: "America" loves Connecticut

Yes, whats NOT to love about Connecticut, though!!!!! What a beautiful place......I almost went to see them at OpSail on a NY trip,,,,,,that would have been MOST cool....

TkK<----go Broncos....

Message: 13319 Posted: Sun Sep 03 18:55:44 2000 By: Doug
Subject: Re: I won

Ahhhh, the elusive Beechlady. So that's the correct spelling of heinie. I have always wondered about that.

Message: 13318 Posted: Sun Sep 03 17:20:56 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Baseball , kids and Taxiride

My dd ALWAYS sayt thank you. I no longer need to prompt her which is good. It thrills me when people say how polite she is. So not all kids are that way.

My dh has NEVER forgiven me for catching that foul ball in Dodger stadium.....

Just bought the Taxiride cd. So far so good. I'll let you know.

Message: 13317 Posted: Sun Sep 03 16:05:16 2000 By: Rob
Subject: "America" loves Connecticut

America will be making their third visit to Connecticut inside of just four months. They first appeared at the OpSail (Tall Ships), then at Oakdale in Wallingford. Now in October they'll be at Mohegan Sun Casino. The Mohegan Show is FREE!!!! It's in the Casino's Wolf Den. Best of all, there are no bad seats. Parking is also FREE.

Message: 13316 Posted: Sun Sep 03 15:12:14 2000 By: kiri
Subject: Re: A Trivia Question

johnny - i know we aren't supposed to try to solve the question right now - and i'm sure the answer is quite simple to the well-versed fan - but the writer in me decided to see if the commonality in the songs you listed had to do with the lyrics?

of course it doesn't take long to see the major themes of their writing but it's been fun (for a lazy sunday afternoon) digging a little deeper into their word choices - when will the experts get to answer the question?

Message: 13315 Posted: Sun Sep 03 12:01:54 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: I won

Hey Joe, I can relate to your story about not even receiving a mere "thank you" from the kid you gave the baseball to.

About a month ago, a boy about the age of 11 asked me if I could give him a ride home from the store we were both leaving. I didn't know him at all so I was leery about giving a ride to a stranger. I thought about how easily he could make false allegations about me abducting him. Anyway, after questioning him about who his parents are, I found out that I was a high school classmate of his mother's. When I dropped him off, he headed up the sidewalk to the house. I hollered at him saying, "Hey, you're welcome!" He said, "Oh yeah, thanks." these days! (LOL).

Joe, think about it this way: You got 2 foul balls. Beechlady and I each got about 5 foul messages. :0 )

Message: 13314 Posted: Sun Sep 03 11:53:30 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: P.S.

Happy Labor Day (AND Happy Birthday to my Mom Carolyn in Michigan)
and still yet another reason to celebrate
THE NFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!go lions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TkH<-------does anyone else hate Dennis Miller on MNF? UGH.

Message: 13313 Posted: Sun Sep 03 11:50:50 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: I won

Ah, Joe, that's TYPICAL today at the Ball park,,,,,I got hit by a liner from Cal Ripken in '96 (in the shoulder-my whole arm went numb for 2 days-UGH) and the usher RUSHED in and swiped it away from me (us "personnel" aren't supposed to keep them--I looked at it as a war spoil personally,,,lol) and gave it to a kid who did the same thing. He was old enough to KNOW better too! The adult with the kid just gave us BOTH a dirty look. UGH. I say smack 'em in the heinie!

TkH<---------MY kids are polite.......but my hand hurts.....ROFL

Message: 13312 Posted: Sun Sep 03 08:11:47 2000 By: Joe Knight
Subject: I won

Wow !! What a month. First I got 2 fouls balls at the local "A" Ballpark and now I win the Highway CD boxed set. Many Thanks to Dan and Tom!!!!!!!!......................................JK
PS....I gave 1 of the foul balls to a kid in the stands and he didn't even bother to thank me for it.....You know that really bothered me. Had someone given me a foul ball when I was a kid I would have mowed his lawn for life LOL..............................

Message: 13311 Posted: Fri Sep 01 16:34:12 2000 By: Steve
Subject: Re: The First America Fan Musical Contest...

Hey Mike...I'll sing if you will play lead...I could even do alittle guitar myself...

Message: 13310 Posted: Fri Sep 01 16:25:53 2000 By: Steve
Subject: Re: And the Winners Are...

Since I already have my box set, I fee like I won first prize not runner up. Hey Mike maybe we can figure out how to get that third signature on your box set...LOL

Message: 13309 Posted: Fri Sep 01 15:56:28 2000 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: And the Winners Are...

Congrats to all who won! at least I can console myself with having the right ballplayer picked out!

Message: 13308 Posted: Fri Sep 01 13:10:33 2000 By: jeff brink
Subject: Holiday...

Thanks Holiday.


Message: 13307 Posted: Fri Sep 01 13:00:40 2000 By: mBluLight
Subject: Re: Taxiride/Imaginate

i was initially not a very big fan of the taxiride album, but the more i listen to it, the better it gets, to the point where it's now one of my favs. very talented group of kids. definitely worth checking out... and their opening for tina turner on her world tour. they must be managed incredibly well.


Message: 13306 Posted: Fri Sep 01 11:53:54 2000 By: John Corbett
Subject: Taxiride/Imaginate


I agree that Taxiride is pretty good, but no America. The Imaginate album does have an indirect America tie. Its producer, Jack Joseph Puig, was the engineer on Dan Peek's inspired 1984 album Doer Of The Word. Taxiride is sometimes a bit too much on the modern pop side for me, but they're a far cry from the current Backstreet Boys pablum polluting the record stores these days.


Message: 13305 Posted: Fri Sep 01 10:51:51 2000 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: The First America Fan Musical Contest...

OH HOWIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU DA BOMB, MAAAAAN! I love it!!!!! I'm already cranking out the ideas.......
((((((((((C= }

TkH<-------I'll need to double my dose of caffeine now!!!!!!!

Message: 13304 Posted: Fri Sep 01 10:49:25 2000 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: And the Winners Are...

Well David, since I recently had my ears boxed, having another copy of the box set, will be just right. (LOL)

Howie, great idea with your contest!!!

By the way, we have Howie, David, and Nina as chat participants. If an "Eva" appears, that will round out the same names of all my siblings!

Message: 13303 Posted: Fri Sep 01 09:44:55 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: The First America Fan Musical Contest...

Cool Howard. The Cat Stevens site posts Fan cover songs in real audio. I think it's a fun idea.

Message: 13302 Posted: Fri Sep 01 09:41:54 2000 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: And the Winners Are...

All right Johnny (Highway) and Steve F (Peace). Can you figure out how we can swap signatures on our box sets. Three additional people won a copy of Peace. Check it out at Dan's site.

Message: 13301 Posted: Fri Sep 01 09:12:13 2000 By: David Perkins
Subject: Re: The First America Fan Musical Contest...

What a COOL idea!
I have a reel-to-reel tape of my brother and I playing "Sister Golden Hair" in December of 1975. My brother on the drums and vocalizing the steel-guitar part and me on acoustic guitar in a lame attempt to 'fancy up' a song that needed no fancying up!

Message: 13300 Posted: Fri Sep 01 09:08:59 2000 By: David Perkins
Subject: Re: And the Winners Are...

Yeah! Now we have more ammunition against Johnny! He won a boxed set! It's all your fault, Johnny! ;)

Message: 13299 Posted: Fri Sep 01 09:06:00 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: The First America Fan Musical Contest...

To everyone that plays a musical instrument on this board,
(including Lurkers) or non-musical fans that can play an America songs on guitar, bass, drums, sitar, banjo, spoons, forks, drums, anything rules.

I want everyone to play in about 3 to 5 minutes long,
their favorite America songs in either a medley or
the whole song. Like intros, solos, etc. I want everyone
to have fun with this. And then people will record
this music on a cassette and send it to me, in which
I'll record it to MP3's, WAV's or whatever is easier for
Steve L to handle. I'll number each clip (which each person's
name will be attached on a master list.)

As I said, this includes everyone. All the Endorphins, MattB,
hey even Gerry, Dan or Dewey can do it for all I know. EVERYONE!

And as for voting, it'll be us. Maybe Steve can setup
something where we can only vote. Maybe have battle of the
fans (band) or something like that :0)

So, practice, practice, and improvise! Take your time
til you think it's perfect :0)

Email me at for any mailing address,
questions, etc.



Message: 13298 Posted: Fri Sep 01 08:45:35 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Okay everyone...are you ready????????????

As I said, I ran this idea past Steve L and
he approved and thought it was a great idea...

Message: 13297 Posted: Fri Sep 01 08:43:46 2000 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: And the Winners Are...

Joe Knight
Lorin Cole
Johnny Yee


Message: 13296 Posted: Fri Sep 01 08:18:38 2000 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Atlantic City Concert

Thanks for the correction, Mike. I'll fix the list this weekend.

Message: 13295 Posted: Fri Sep 01 06:47:36 2000 By: holiday
Subject: jeff brinks johnny & margaret

Australian bands that compare to America? No one in their league, but you should all catch up to a group called Taxiride and their 'Imaginate' cd. I am sure Margaret knows them well as they have just had three top 20 hits Down Under since Dec '99 off that one cd!They sound like Crosby Stills Nash and Young and even covered one of their songs on 'Imaginate' - so they have fantastic harmonies. Back in the 1970's - yes, I am that old, a local group called "Stars" had a hit with "Look After Yourself" - a kind of Jackson Browne "Take It Easy" sound alike, as well as "West Is The Way" - they had first class harmonies - "Look After Yourself" was, and still is, as good as "Take It Easy" and "Ventura Highway" - they captured that same open spaces, back to the desert and free spirit those of you who still remember the early 1970's will appreciate. As for me, America is still my all time favourite group for the amount of first class material they have produced and which we still have the very great privilege of being able to go and see perform and buy new albums such as Hourglass and Human Nature which still have some of the best material around.
I have each and every one of their albums - hell, I even listen more to them than Jimmy Buffett!!

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