Chat Folder Archive

Archives: January 2001

Message: 15447 Posted: Wed Jan 31 21:15:01 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: New Album ???

David, I'm not sure myself, but I think it's just wishing and hoping.

Kelly, it has been quite awhile since I've been to the optometrist! (O:

Message: 15446 Posted: Wed Jan 31 20:12:14 2001 By: David Stengele
Subject: New Album ???

What's this I hear about a new album? Are these just rumours, wishes, or are they for real?

Message: 15445 Posted: Wed Jan 31 18:48:17 2001 By: Yng Moon
Subject: Re: Regarding Brian Wilson

Okay Johnny, I have to respond to this one......NO WAY

Message: 15444 Posted: Wed Jan 31 17:04:47 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Regarding Brian Wilson

It may be just me but I think Brian Wilson and Don Henley could pass for looks not necessarily in music.

Message: 15443 Posted: Wed Jan 31 16:39:01 2001 By: Steve
Subject: Re: New Album

Hey, here is an idea...DAN PEEK...need I say more?

Message: 15442 Posted: Wed Jan 31 16:36:19 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: THE New Album

Well I'm always a believer that if you put the energy out, it has a better chance of happening......SO even IF there wasn't any "talk" or "innuendo" there is now....LOL.....So. There you have it. Flakey? I think not.

TkH<--------Bran, but Frosted is better

Message: 15441 Posted: Wed Jan 31 15:05:23 2001 By: Greg Gorter
Subject: Re: New Album?

10/10 Kevin, how prophetic! need we all say anymore...

Message: 15440 Posted: Wed Jan 31 14:45:50 2001 By: Erin
Subject: Re: New Album

I like the Brian Wilson suggestion. I got his Imagination album for Christmas and LOVE it...especially the song "South American" bout Jimmy Buffett???

Erin :o)

Message: 15439 Posted: Wed Jan 31 14:34:47 2001 By: Alan
Subject: Ooops!

Sorry about the double post!

Message: 15438 Posted: Wed Jan 31 14:33:57 2001 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Merging 4 a New Album

red oak writes <<Throw in maybe Dan Fogleberg,Chuck Negron and maybe Tim B. Schmidt and that is an old timers 7th heaven.>>

Well, since Tim B. has been a guest vocalist on quite a few post-Dan albums, there's nothing new there (still I think he's awesome and ought to be on future albums). Definitely Dan Fogelberg! He definitely owes them an appearance since Gerry played guitar on "There's A Place In The World For A Gambler".

How about Joe Walsh again? We haven't heard him w/ America since Green Monkey.

To further echo the sentiments of others on this folder: Jackson Browne, any member of Poco or the Eagles or surviving member of the Beatles. John Hiatt would be awesome, too.


Message: 15437 Posted: Wed Jan 31 14:29:49 2001 By: Spurs
Subject: New Album

Hello every one,not so sure of hearing any thing concerning a new album other than Gerry's solo endeavour.I'd like to see a no frills affair just the band and perhaps Timothy B.Which raises the question who who would you pick for producer? My choice would be Bob Clearmountain.

Message: 15436 Posted: Wed Jan 31 14:29:36 2001 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Merging 4 a New Album

red oak writes <<Throw in maybe Dan Fogleberg,Chuck Negron and maybe Tim B. Schmidt and that is an old timers 7th heaven.>>

Well, since Tim B. has been a guest vocalist on quite a few post-Dan albums, there's nothing new there (still I think he's awesome and ought to be on future albums). Definitely Dan Fogelberg! He definitely owes them an appearance since Gerry played guitar on "There's A Place In The World For A Gambler".

How about Joe Walsh again? We haven't heard him w/ America since Green Monkey.

To further echo the sentiments of others on this folder: Jackson Browne, any member of Poco or the Eagles or surviving member of the Beatles. John Hiatt would be awesome, too.


Message: 15435 Posted: Wed Jan 31 13:11:57 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: New Album

Excellent question, Beech! One guest per song on this 13 song future CD. Some are well known and others maybe not:

David Cassidy
Paul Young
Chris Christian
David Huff (of David and The Giants)
Timothy B
Andrew Gold
Neil Finn (of Crowded House)
Tom Kelly
B B Mak
JD Souther
Jeff Williams (of Toto)
Me (of no fame...a guy can dream can't he?)

Message: 15434 Posted: Wed Jan 31 12:56:21 2001 By: Pat B.
Subject: Re: New Album

Either Keith Urban or Collin Raye.

Keith Urban is already playing Sister Golden Hair in concert.

Collin Raye's CD: 'Tracks' is simply awsome! If you haven't heard it yet, I suggest you drop everything and run to the nearest store and purchase it!

Message: 15433 Posted: Wed Jan 31 10:20:08 2001 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: New Album

David Gilmour

Message: 15432 Posted: Wed Jan 31 10:18:12 2001 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: New Album

Paul McCartney, Brian Wilson, Aimee Mann, Jeffrey Foskett, Matt Beckley....the list could go on & on w/me.

Message: 15431 Posted: Wed Jan 31 09:47:40 2001 By: Nina
Subject: Message for Howard L.

Howard...Someone here at school FINALLY showed me how to retrieve my HOME e-mail, so you CAN send me an address! Use:

Message: 15430 Posted: Wed Jan 31 09:05:36 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: New Album?

AMEN KEVIN! Let's get rid of the drum machine!

Message: 15429 Posted: Wed Jan 31 07:00:03 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: New Album?

Has there been talk of a new album?

If so, I can think of a few people I'd like to see on this one. There was a great drummer who was the driving force behind one of the best bands of the 70s. He played with all the great ones: Beckley, Peek, Bunnell. His name is Willie Leacox. I'd love to know what that guy is up to today. Imagine what someone of that caliber could bring to an America recording.

There's also a guy who played guitar on about half the songs on the last America album, HUMAN NATURE, that I'd love to hear a lot more of next time. His name is Dewey Bunnell.

Oh, and what about guitar vituoso Michael Woods? And his bass playing partner Brad Palmer? Could you imagine the magic those guys would add in the studio?

Maybe get a guy like Scott Litt to produce it. And you'd have yourself something there.


Message: 15428 Posted: Wed Jan 31 06:40:26 2001 By: red oak
Subject: Merging 4 a New Album

Would have to think that a blending of America & Ambrosia would be awesome. Throw in maybe Dan Fogleberg,Chuck Negron and maybe Tim B. Schmidt and that is an old timers 7th heaven. Wouldn't do much for sales tho, as only a reunion with Dan would do that and only to a certain degree. Have fun picking ur brains on this one.

Message: 15427 Posted: Wed Jan 31 05:25:51 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: New Album

Say I said anyone EXCEPT Dan (not that I have anything against him-to the contrary, but I'm just thinking "new" and "different"....) Besides I don't want to start anything (again)....(snicker)

John L, I loved the Eminem suggestion.....very True....VERY

TkH<----------30 points

Message: 15426 Posted: Wed Jan 31 04:35:04 2001 By: Greg Gorter
Subject: Re: New Album

Be good to have a C.S.N.,Jackson Browne & throw in a big slice of Eagles ex pats....

Message: 15425 Posted: Tue Jan 30 20:21:49 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: re: new album

Eminem ?

Message: 15424 Posted: Tue Jan 30 19:37:49 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: re: new album

Poco really kicked tail on New Year's Eve. THAT would be a fun pairing.

Message: 15423 Posted: Tue Jan 30 19:04:18 2001 By: msmith
Subject: re: new album

dan peek :-)

Message: 15422 Posted: Tue Jan 30 18:35:25 2001 By: David Perkins
Subject: Re: New Album

Thats Easy: Christopher Cross and David Pack (lead-singer of Ambrosia)

Message: 15421 Posted: Tue Jan 30 17:14:36 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: New Album

Ok. Since we've heard rumblings and rumors of the new album being in the infancy stage, here's something to ponder.....
Who would you like to hear "guest starring" on this epic? It'd be fun to see everyone's ideas!!!!

TkH<--------Trauma In The E.R.

Message: 15420 Posted: Tue Jan 30 08:28:37 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: Gone.

Thanks, Steve. It helped.


Message: 15419 Posted: Tue Jan 30 08:05:01 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: NEW

Kevin, don't use /america/. Instead go directly to the America Fans home page by using /america/index.htm. Let me know if that doesn't help.

Message: 15418 Posted: Tue Jan 30 07:02:32 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: NEW

Steve: It happened again this morning when I logged on. I'm using /america/.

It's quite annoying.

Message: 15417 Posted: Mon Jan 29 21:16:19 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Is this happening to anyone else?

Kevin, what is the URL that you are going to when you access the web site? As far as I can tell, King Biscuit hasn't made the switch yet, but I've been keeping both the old and the new servers updated so that the America Fans web site will be accessible whichever one is active. I don't have any problem accessing the old site with this URL: /america/index.htm but that may change after the 31st. I'll try to keep you all posted.


Message: 15416 Posted: Mon Jan 29 17:22:21 2001 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Is this happening to anyone else?

"So please ...
believe in me ...
when I say I'm spining round' round' " D. BUNNELL

Message: 15415 Posted: Mon Jan 29 16:59:27 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: Is this happening to anyone else?

When I clicked on the website, the first thing I got was an entire page of the word NEW in yellow. There are 50 rows and 27 columns, which totally obscures the regular home page, which loads underneath it a few moments later. In fact, you really can't read anything from the home page. All you can see is the photo of the box set, you can make out that there's type but it's impossible to read, and you can see the box in the upper left that links you to the chat folder, the comprehensive history, the lyrics, etc. Even that's a little difficult to make out because of all the yellow NEWS overprinted.

Is this just me, or are other people experiencing this?


Message: 15414 Posted: Mon Jan 29 10:57:38 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: buena vista

Not totally up on BVSC, but ahhhhhhh the CLASH!!!! (((C=
Now my mood is better!!!!!! Guess I'm still stuck in the '80's!!!

TkH<------Armadillo Pancake Breakfast

Message: 15413 Posted: Sun Jan 28 20:21:03 2001 By: Greg Gorter
Subject: Re: Australian Interest

Good on ya Margaret!!!!

And what a better place to visit and jam than the best location on the planet!!!!

Message: 15412 Posted: Sun Jan 28 19:16:07 2001 By: Margaret
Subject: Australian Interest

It is good to see regular Australian messages here. I hope that a promoter, who is sympathetic to our needs, is taking note and will soon book a return tour to Australia.

Message: 15411 Posted: Sun Jan 28 19:11:19 2001 By: Margaret
Subject: Crowded House

As there has been considerable discussion here about Crowded House, I thought this article, from a recent Sydney paper, might be of some interest.
hey now, don't dream it's over
Crowded House made a surprise reunion in Melbourne this week, re-forming in front of a studio audience for a set of half-a-dozen classics. The event took place as Neil Finn taped an episode of the Cold: Live at the Chapel series.
After delivering a selection of his solo material, including songs from his forthcoming albun (which is now entitled One Nil), Finn surprised the small crowd by inviting old cohorts Paul Hester and Nick Seymour on to the stage.
The trio, which hasn't performed together since a one-off appearance at the ARIA awards in 1997, delivered a jovial set which included Mean to Me, Distant Sun, Four Seasons in One Day and Pineapple Head.
The episode is due to be broadcast on Channel 10 on the evening of February 10.
Meanwhile, One Nil is due for an April release. Finn plans to team up with a violinist and Melbourne-based cartoonist Michael Leunig for a conceptual national tour midyear.

Message: 15410 Posted: Sun Jan 28 17:40:54 2001 By: kiri
Subject: buena vista

rotated buena vista social club, the clash, and "silent letter" today. and couldn't get a smiths song out of my head the whole time. this is what happens when you stay out waaay too late to see a band at a biker bar. exhaustion and eternal ear ringing are just two of my plagues....

anyway, just wanted to know who else digs buena vista social club. btw, was my first time listening to silent letter (and now have several times) - very nice collection of songs there.

Message: 15409 Posted: Sun Jan 28 08:40:40 2001 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: America Merchandise

Keep in mind that it appears that has virtually all of AMERICA's CD's, including GERRY BECKLEY's solo debut masterpiece VAN GO GAN. Also their 1975 live in-studio DVD from Germany.

Message: 15408 Posted: Sat Jan 27 23:23:30 2001 By: Greg Gorter
Subject: Re: America Merchandise

It's a big country (OZ) have you checked out the new series of "Survivor" Down Under? not all of OZ is like that... LMAO !

Message: 15407 Posted: Sat Jan 27 09:09:49 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: America Merchandise

And Hey right back at ya Janice....!!!

TkH<-------Adderal based

Message: 15406 Posted: Sat Jan 27 04:51:09 2001 By: Janice
Subject: America Merchandise

Great got your shipment in a week? That's wonderful. I have never been to is on my list of places I want to visit though. I do have 2 weeks of timeshare time this year and 5 weeks vacation..hmmmm..
I want to get a new America t-shirt..but I'm spoiled, I want it signed! lol.. I just noticed they are coming to Atlanta in a couple of weeks. Boy you think Terry would have gotten me a signed t-shirt from Cayman..geez Terry..(lol..just kidding)...
Hope everyone has a wonderful is a pretty one here down south. :-) Welcome to the new "posters", hello to the "lurkers" and hey to the "regs"!

Message: 15405 Posted: Sat Jan 27 03:16:49 2001 By: Greg Gorter
Subject: Re: Comin back to OZ

Thanks Jimnak....

Also, I just wanted to say that the website of Heart Times Coffee Cup is excellent for ordering America merchandise... I just ordered a whole bag of stuff and these guys had it to me in Australia in just over a week.... well done.

Message: 15404 Posted: Fri Jan 26 19:33:36 2001 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Comin back to OZ

I have heard that AMERICA greatly enjoys playing down under & whenever the opportunity arises for them, they will be there. Hopefully there will be some opportunities in the near future.

Message: 15403 Posted: Fri Jan 26 18:19:43 2001 By: Greg Gorter
Subject: Comin back to OZ

Do you think the guys will be coming back to OZ in the near future... I've had a look at the Odessey 2001 concert tour and they look as if they're are staying in the States this year.

Also, I just collected the Highway 30 years 3 cd box... fantastic! there's some real rawness to some of the tracks, which makes the collection so unique. A definate must for the hardcore America fan. And finally a copy of Deweys version of California Dreamin! 10/10 guys...

Happy Birthday as well for last week Dewey, mine was on the 16th.

Greg & Lili Gorter

Message: 15402 Posted: Fri Jan 26 17:55:05 2001 By: Dan
Subject: Re: chat folder patrol officer

May I borrow a line from Gerry Beckley; " Who knows, who really cares...." DanC

Message: 15401 Posted: Fri Jan 26 13:19:01 2001 By: TerryT
Subject: Re: Backup trio

msg # 15367 from red oak...

"I was wondering what Michael, Brad, and Willie do during their off-time from the
concert grind. Would be tough having another career, but maybe they find time for
that also. Interested about these people, so if anyone can answer, I would appreciate
it. Tx."

Good question, if there is actually that much off-time from what I agree with is a grind! I recall mention of Michael doing some session work with another group for a recent CD, but that is all. Nice to imagine all five (or six) recording something TOGETHER!

Message: 15400 Posted: Fri Jan 26 13:09:51 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: chat folder patrol officer

Ah, I want to be the chat folder patrol officer. (to be read with a whine in the voice).

Message: 15399 Posted: Fri Jan 26 12:46:44 2001 By: Jessica
Subject: Checking in

Hi there! I'm finally on my way to the US (only for a visit, anyway) and I hoped to catch an America show but - I wasn't so lucky! No show dates in Indiana next week!

Anyway, I'm really glad to see the band going strong and this site as busy and interesting as ever. I haven't been here as often as I used to be - I used to post from the Philippines (Thanks for the mention, Beechlady!) then I relocated to Toronto, Canada.

Hi to the old familiar names here and to the new ones as well. Steve, your dedication to the band and to this group is amazing. More power to your site with the upcoming move. Hope to check in again by then.

Oh, I remembered. Dewey had a birthday last Jan. 9th, right? Belated Happy B-day, Dewey!


Message: 15398 Posted: Fri Jan 26 12:03:43 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: America is everywhere

I was reading the obit of local radio personality, Dick Whittinghill. it contained the following passage:

"he offered a 'story record", sometimes racy- a narration submitted by a listener or concocted by him-telling a prepsoterous tale that led into a certain record. A 1975 monologue, for example, described a businessman who visited a house of ill repute and contracted a social disease. Next heard was the recorded lyric: "No oz never did give nothin' to the Tin Man, that he didn't, didn't already have..."

Pretty funny, but I doubt that is what Dewey had in mind.

Message: 15397 Posted: Fri Jan 26 10:57:43 2001 By: Yng Moon
Subject: Re: Wanting To Contact Kelly (Young Moon)

Dizzy....I tend to make alot of people feel this way.

Message: 15396 Posted: Fri Jan 26 09:44:29 2001 By: Nina
Subject: Reply to LisaRose

Hey, LisaRose, there is TOO learning going on in my classroom! Don't you remember last Spring when I taught my class all about "America"?
Then I gave them a quiz, that I passed on to "our boys"; and Dewey kindly wrote back to the class? (What a Sweetheart!)

It's funny...those sixth graders have all moved on to a different school this year for seventh grade, but when I bump into them( here or there) they usually ask me if I've been to any "America" concerts lately...or have I seen them on TV lately! (If only I could get them to remember Direct and Indirect Objects as easily!!!!)


PS: Last night on the news they mentioned the 74th attack on Boston area teachers by a parent or guardian. Teaching:"It's not just a's an adventure"!

Message: 15395 Posted: Fri Jan 26 09:38:31 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: I Promise To...

Hey All, I want to apologize for bringing up "The Subject" again last evening. I promise to try my best to...well, as Don Henley's song goes..."Get Over It". I hope the other party can get over it too.

Back to normal programming.

Message: 15394 Posted: Fri Jan 26 07:38:03 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: hello again

David Stengele was a U.S. citizen living in Japan and he posted here a few times several years ago. He has since moved to India and he still sends me e-mail messages once a month or so to see what's going on with America. His Internet connection in India isn't very good so he hasn't posted anything here since he moved there.

Message: 15393 Posted: Fri Jan 26 06:35:10 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: hello again

Hey Kenji!

I don't think we've seen anyone else post here (from Japan) that we KNOW of....BUT there have been other international postings from Turkey, Brazil, Australia, Germany (if I remember correctly), Italy, Canada and Phillipines! If I've left anyone out, PLEASE forgive me (I don't want to get cited-rofl). Its great to "see" you on the board-hope we can be of help or info to you!!!!!! Keep on posting!

TkH<----------Eat right, exercise, die anyway!!!!ROFL!!

Message: 15392 Posted: Thu Jan 25 19:17:31 2001 By: kenji
Subject: hello again

Has any Japanese fan of America ever come to this chat?
Johnny and Robyn, thank you for your message!

Message: 15391 Posted: Thu Jan 25 18:38:08 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: chat folder patrol officer

If it wasn't anonymous then who is it? Who is this pathetic person?

Message: 15390 Posted: Thu Jan 25 18:09:03 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: chat folder patrol officer

Sorry Mark, it seems I'm always picking on you. Definitely not Inspector Mills because his guy couldn't fill the shoes of even a fictional character.

Kevin, you may have missed reading my post on Jan 17th. You posted right after me. My post is #15281 if you wish to visit it.

Yes, we have a fellow fan who finds it necessary to send some of us messages telling us that we post too much. The messages that I received in the past have been anonymous. But Tuesday's message sent to me, hasn't...for the first time. I told the sender that I respect that not being anonymous. There was no message in the body of the letter. There were only two words in the subject title. The familiar words were "Enough Johnny". Sorry Chat Folder Patrolman, but I'm just telling the truth.

It seems that this person has it out for me and a few others here. One of the others is Beechlady. I can tell you all exactly why this person is trying to cause Beech and me grief. It's simple, it's jealousy! You see, he wants so badly to be THE FAN. The fact that some of us had the incredible fortune of being named in the "Highway" booklet, is too much for this person to handle. Everytime he reads a post here on the Folder from me or Beech, it reminds him of that. Like I said, he wants so much to be THE FAN!

Oh, I'm sure he will deny all the things he has done, but that's his M.O. I still have all of the anonymous messages that he has sent me. Forget shows like "Big Brother", "Survivor", "Making The Band", or "Temptation", we can have our own virtual game right here. He can present his side and I will present mine backed by the flaming messages I still have, and we can let each of you be the judge. The evidence that I have is overwhelming that he is the guilty party. But, I'm positive he won't accept the challenge. He keeps busy enough as the Chat Folder Patrol Officer.

Message: 15389 Posted: Thu Jan 25 17:23:32 2001 By: msmith
Subject: chat folder patrol officer

must be inspector mills.

Message: 15388 Posted: Thu Jan 25 14:43:18 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Chat Folder Patrol Officer.

Kevin, I'll explain when I return later today. Stay tuned.

Message: 15387 Posted: Thu Jan 25 14:10:49 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: Chat Folder Patrol Officer.


Message: 15386 Posted: Thu Jan 25 14:03:56 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Dreams

Once again, a timely message from my calendar page. Today's quote reads: "It is in our idleness, in our dreams,that the submerged truth sometimes comes to the top" Virginia Woolf.

Message: 15385 Posted: Thu Jan 25 13:10:34 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Wanting To Contact Kelly (Young Moon)

Kelly, if you're on-board, would you please contact me? Or, if anyone can provide me with her e-mail address, I'd greatly appreciate it. I've scrolled the archives but found only her posts that don't allow a person to e-mail Nina's. I've scrolled so much that I'm now dizzy...well okay...dizzier than usual. LOL

Oh by the way, for everyone's information, the Chat Folder Patrol Officer is on duty! I rec'd an unsolicited message from him just the other day giving me out a "citation"!

Message: 15384 Posted: Thu Jan 25 12:38:09 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Reply to Nina

Now I know why the students aren't learning!! Just kidding, I do the same thing on my preps. Wild dream you had. A few years ago, I was able to get a local band for my school and the kids loved it. How cool would that be if "America" could come to our schools. I guess we probably have to wait til they retire but by that time we will probably also be retired!!

Message: 15383 Posted: Thu Jan 25 10:07:13 2001 By: Nina
Subject: Reply to Howard

Howard...We don't have an e-mail address at school yet...(supposedly we WILL in the future)... so I have no e-mail address to send you!!! See my dilemma? It's so DARN inconvenient to be w/o a decent running computer system!!!!! I'll check with my sister tonight...maybe she'll let me give you hers? If not, I'll send mail to Steve L. and he said he'll be kind enough to forward it! Thanks Steve! Thanks Howard!


Message: 15382 Posted: Thu Jan 25 09:47:21 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Nina

what's your email address that you're working off of,
so I can quickly send my address to you.

Message: 15381 Posted: Thu Jan 25 09:43:00 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Chat debut!

Yes, welcome Kenji!!! If you can't find "Highway", I will help you get it. Just let me know.

Nina, it's always nice hearing from you. Funny dream and a good one!!!

Message: 15380 Posted: Thu Jan 25 08:49:39 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Chat debut!

Hello and welcome kenji! Be sure to check out the America Fans page. It might be of help to you!

Message: 15379 Posted: Thu Jan 25 08:16:00 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: This and that/Dream/Howard L./Steve L.

Nina, I'll be glad to forward a letter to Howard.

Regarding dreams, my "America" dreams usually have me sitting around talking with the band in somebody's house and then we perform together on stage. I play the guitar much better in my dreams than I do in reality (LOL).

Message: 15378 Posted: Thu Jan 25 08:09:23 2001 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Web Server Change

Thanks for all the good work Steve.

Message: 15377 Posted: Thu Jan 25 08:02:35 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Web Server Change

The King Biscuit (Oxygen) web site is going to be moved to a new web server this weekend. In the process it is going to get a new IP address (that's kind of a technical term so don't worry if it doesn't mean anything to you). What that means is that there's a possibility that the America Fans web site (which is hosted on the King Biscuit server) may be unavailable part or all of the weekend. Rest assured that we'll keep the downtime as short as possible but it could take until Tuesday to come back up.

For those of you who care, here's the process we'll go through. First of all we'll copy all of the web site files out to the new server. The new server will have a new IP address which needs to be "associated" to the Internet address that you type in. For example, when you type in www.*.com/america/ the "www.*.com" gets translated into an IP address by some Internet tables called DNS tables. These tables exist around the world and all of them will need to be updated with the new association. This process can take days to complete. However, I'll post the new IP address here (it will look something like as soon as I know it and you'll be able to use that IP address to access the web site directly until the DNS tables in your area are updated.

I hope that makes sense, but if it doesn't, rest assured we'll get the web site up and running just as quickly as possible.

A big thanks goes to Michael Murphy (the King Biscuit web site designer) for his help in this transfer and to King Biscuit/Oxygen for their continued support of America and allowing us to keep the America Fans web site on their server.


Message: 15376 Posted: Thu Jan 25 07:55:43 2001 By: Nina
Subject: This and that/Dream/Howard L./Steve L.

Hi all! Had a "weird" America dream last night! Gerry was in the basement of one of our old neighborhood schools playing and singing for the students.(?) He was scheduled for two "assemblies" , both of which I attended...but I was terribly disappointed when he DIDN'T recognize me! Even when I introduced myself and told him that I was the NINA who made the quilts...he STILL didn't have a clue! The dream ended with an old station wagon pulling up outside (Brad was driving) and Gerry jumping in and motioning for Brad to "step on it"!

Now, while I AGREE with Gerry's decision of high-tailing it out of this boring one-horse town, (something I'D like to do at times!), I DO take issue at his refusal to acknowledge me! "Yoo-hoo, Gerry, it's me!!!"

My analysis? Gerry thinks I'm a major stalker!?! Dewey must think I'm O.K., though!

Enough silliness! (I AM on the school computer after all!) Howard: I know I still owe you for the tape, I haven't forgotten, but I still don't have an adress to send payment to!! Steve L...will you forward a letter to Howard if I send it to YOU in the mail? I believe I still have YOUR address somewhere? (Haven't read my e-mails since October, so if anyone is trying to contact me...SORRY...home computer is STILL down!)



Message: 15375 Posted: Wed Jan 24 23:41:44 2001 By: kenji
Subject: Chat debut!

Hello I'm from Japan. I have been a fan of America for 5 years.
I have an acoustic band of my own, and hope to copy some of America's
songs. I like "Riverside" very much, and want tabs of the lead guitar in it. If there is anyone who plays America songs, please send me an

I'm so excited to find "30 years of America." I will check if I can
purchace it in Japan.

♪always welcome heartfelt e-mails.♪

Message: 15374 Posted: Wed Jan 24 21:00:40 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Thanks

Nice chat this evening! Thanks to all who showed up and I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. Hope to see you ( and some new people too) next week.

Message: 15373 Posted: Wed Jan 24 19:28:37 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: chat

Going there now

Message: 15372 Posted: Wed Jan 24 19:06:13 2001 By: msmith
Subject: chat

so, like, where is everyone??

Message: 15371 Posted: Wed Jan 24 17:05:46 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Reply To John L & What Other Postcards???

John, if I did, I meant a photocopy! lol!!

Who else has this same postcard? Also, what other America postcards do any of you have?

Message: 15370 Posted: Wed Jan 24 14:17:02 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Trivia Answer Clue #2

Great, Johnny. I'll send you my address so that you can mail it to me. (I'm sure you said that you would give it to whoever guessed right)

Message: 15369 Posted: Wed Jan 24 13:05:30 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Trivia Answer Clue #2

EXACTLY, John!!! Way to go!!!!

Yes, it's a postcard announcing the release of America's debut album. The front of the postcard has the same picture as the front of the album cover but without the peach/flesh-colored part and without the word, "AMERICA". It's strictly the picture of the three Native Americans and DG&D. I hope to one day have the three autograph it for me.

Running from top to bottom in the center of the postcard are the words, "Warner Bros. Records Inc., 4000 Warner Blvd., Burbank, Calif. 91505

Message: 15368 Posted: Wed Jan 24 10:51:28 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Trivia Answer Clue #2


Message: 15367 Posted: Wed Jan 24 10:48:54 2001 By: red oak
Subject: Backup trio

I was wondering what Michael,Brad, and Willie do during their off-time from the concert grind. Would be tough having another career, but maybe they find time for that also. Interested about these people, so if anyone can answer, I would appreciate it. Tx.

Message: 15366 Posted: Wed Jan 24 09:57:12 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Trivia Answer Clue #2

Silver man with a telegram

Message: 15365 Posted: Wed Jan 24 09:07:00 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Trivia Answer Clue #1

"I been one poor correspondent..."

Message: 15364 Posted: Wed Jan 24 06:49:36 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Chat Tonight,,,,,,,

I will try to be there this evening, but as I am getting ready for my in-laws 50th wedding anniversary celebration this weekend, I don't really know if I will be there. EVERYONE else is encouraged to chat with out me!

Message: 15363 Posted: Wed Jan 24 04:49:56 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Chat Tonight,,,,,,,

Hi all! Prior to Robyn and the Left Coast/Mountain contingent,
I'll be in chat from 8 until 9 Right Coast Time (If anyone's interested)! Please come yak some America at me!

TkH<------NOT friendly with the Tipper-maiden

Message: 15362 Posted: Wed Jan 24 04:46:29 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Another Triv Question (Regarding Memorabilia)

Regarding those cut-out figures from Hearts, I'll bet if I sat one in my car in the passenger seat I'd be safer on the freeway, too!!! (C= Just a thought.

TkH<-----was adopted by Al Gore on the internet

Message: 15361 Posted: Wed Jan 24 01:12:06 2001 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Soundscan Report

Interesting info. Thanks Steve.

I believe that History was certified quad-platinum (4 million sales) in the late 80's. Since the figures you give are only the sales since 1992 (and then only retailers that are in the Soundscan network, which of course not everybody is) then that would mean that the sales of History are well past the 5 million mark. I would bet those sales of VH and Other Favorites are correct, since it has been out for nearly a decade and has always been in print. It is a budget release so it is cheap and I'm sure that has contributed to it's strong sales. Makes me wish Capitol had done a better job of selecting songs for that release, since it has sold so well. While it's not a bad compilation, they did have much better material to select imho.

Message: 15360 Posted: Tue Jan 23 20:45:37 2001 By: Greg Sanders
Subject: America material on offer

If anyone is interested, I currently have some America vinyl records on offer.

7" singles (mostly Australian pressings):

For more details, please visit my website:‾spinauctions/index.htm

Message: 15359 Posted: Tue Jan 23 10:06:53 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Another Triv Question (Regarding Memorabilia)

Okay, let's see if I can stump everyone with this trivia question.

What America promo item has the following words written on the back of it on the top left corner: "America is a first-release from Dan Peek, Gerry Beckley and Dewey Bunnell, three Americans currently residing in England. On Warner Bros. Records."

I wonder if even Dewey owns this item himself as a big collector of America memorabilia. Dewey, maybe we could trade? I sure like that America belt buckle! But, I'd have to throw in some cash to boot which I wouldn't mind, frankly.

Spurs, wouldn't you love to own those figure cut-outs from the "Hearts" promo that you mentioned? I sure would!

Message: 15358 Posted: Tue Jan 23 09:42:40 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: The "Homecoming" Promo Poster

I didn't measure the "Homecoming" promo poster but you will get an idea of it's size. It's not that huge but it just appears to be in comparison to the folded-up "Homecoming" album cover.

It's the size of the folded-up cover times four wide and two times the height. The guys appear sixteen-and-a-half inches tall. Dan, Gerry, and Dewey's names are on the bottom of the poster. It would look great framed but I'm too tight with the purse-strings to go for it. (LOL)

Like Chris, I wasn't sure which person was which for awhile. I was pretty sure about who Dewey was but I had Gerry and Dan reversed.

Message: 15357 Posted: Tue Jan 23 09:11:25 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Triv Question

Chris, thanks for the correction (and the kind words). I guess I should have looked at the "Holiday" album cover! The promo poster had the guys in this order: Dan, Dewey, Gerry.

And if I may Chris, I don't think "Baby It's Up To You" was ever released as a single nor was "Another Try". At least they weren't in the U.S. I was really surprised about that. Both are fabulous songs! I wonder what Warner was thinking there in that big miss opportunity.

During concert performances, it seems that "Another Try" is played with a faster beat. I like it better that way. I agree Chris, "Holiday" is superb! It's pure class and sophistication!

Message: 15356 Posted: Tue Jan 23 09:04:45 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: OT - Useless thought for the day

How right you are--I also was thinking that as I have a slight fear of flying. I guess if they could make a plane out of the same material--there would be no need for a black box. Speaking of airplanes--as I was getting on board Continental on Friday-to go to Florida- I could not believe what was playing-"Don't Cross the River". It was some piped in type of music they use. That was a nice welcome. Of course it would have been nicerif I was on a plane to Cayman Islands a few weekends back!!!

Message: 15355 Posted: Tue Jan 23 07:48:11 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: OT - Useless thought for the day

You know those indestructable little black boxes they put on airplanes (flight recorders)? Why don't they make the whole plane out of the same material?

(not enough caffeine in my system yet)

Message: 15354 Posted: Tue Jan 23 05:18:32 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re : Triv Question

Johnny, I just posted a rather lengthy note re the "Holiday" album cover Triv Question - and lost my connection before posting - don't you hate that? OK - this will be shorter - I assume that you meant Dan, GERRY then Dewey appear on the album cover in that order - don't want another America Anomaly. By the way, back in '74, I did not even know which one was Dan, which was Gerry or Dewey - happy to admit it, as they NEVER appeared anywhere down here with names to the album photos or promos. The picture on Billboard sounds very similar to a double page spread in the Warner Music Book that Beechlady referred to.
I also think "Holiday" was such a great commercial comeback under Sir George with all the guys displaying new found passion in their songs.
Besides Dewey's obviously commercial Tin Man and Dan's very moving Lonely People, Gerry displayed a new up tempo style in Baby It's Up To You - that track should have charted better too! Nothing has come near "Holiday" since - a truly professional production by all involved and it still has a special place in my heart as you can tell.
Johnny - keep the Triv Q's coming mate - they are much appreciated.

Message: 15353 Posted: Tue Jan 23 03:50:11 2001 By: Margaret
Subject: Re Country Music Radio

Jim,while I'm not into country music, I do know that he is Australian and I believe he is doing well in America. Sounds like he has good taste, covering SGH!

Message: 15352 Posted: Tue Jan 23 03:29:21 2001 By: Spurs
Subject: Heart's promotion.

Hello every one,with all this talk of promotion here's something that may be of interest."Hearts" released in the UK summer of 75 and Warners UK were giving it quite a push,lots of airplay SGH and even a TV appearance on a music show run by a guy called Mike Mansfield which featured our guys doing "Woman Tonight" and if all that was not enough Warner's even had giant lifesize cutouts from the "Hearts" cover adorning many a record shop window,even with all this and a tour the "Heart's" album and "America" still did not take off and have never toured the UK since ,but of course recording there was another story.

Message: 15351 Posted: Tue Jan 23 03:00:49 2001 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: Re: Country Music Radio

SAaw countrysinger Keith Urban in concert and he did an acoustic version of S-G-H. And it rocked.

Message: 15350 Posted: Mon Jan 22 20:01:58 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Soundscan Report

Soundscan Report of America CDs as of January 22, 2001
Compiled courtesy of Steve Orchard

Since the inception of Soundscan in 1992, here are how the CD's for America rank.....

1. History/Greatest hits - 1,103,641 (this title has already been certified for sales of over 4 million copies--should be closer to 5 million by now)
2. Ventura Highway & Other Favorites - 89,093 (this is a surprise, not sure why it's so high)
3. America (1st LP) - 73,640
4. Encore: More GH - 45,206
5. Hourglass - 28,847
6. Homecoming - 16,778
7. In Concert (King Biscuit show) - 16,532
8. Live (1977 show) - 14,134
9. Human Nature - 12,703
10. Highway-30 Years Of America (box set) - 7,298 (Not bad!)
11. View From the Ground - 3,661
12. In Concert Live(1985 CD) - 2,215
13. Silent Letter - 1,678
14. Alibi - 1,600
15. Perspective - 1,172
16. Your Move - 1,144

The following Titles are imports only, yet are apparently showing up via Soundscan through retailers who are apparently stocking them.....

1. Holiday - 619
2. Best of America - 555
3. Hearts - 293
4. Hideaway - 276
5. Harbor - 155

The "Ventura Highway & Other Favorites" title is puzzling. The one label that lists it at 89,093 is listed under ECSM. Directly below it the same title shows up under Capital as selling only 3,395 copies. You be the judge. I can tell you this much--that second number seems much more logical to me. Still,I decided to include both of the numbers for you. Remember--these #'s only reflect Soundscan since 1992. We all know that most of the Early America LP's, at least through 1976, all went "gold", selling at least 500,000 copies...

Message: 15349 Posted: Mon Jan 22 17:03:53 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Triv Answer

Billboard used the same one that's on the cover of the "Tin Man" music sheet. Like on the "Holiday" album cover, it's Dan, Dewey, and Gerry in that order. Dan has his right hand on his right pants pocket. His left hand is on his left hip. Dewey has his left hand in his left pants pocket. His right arm is wrapped through Dan's left arm...much like a couple would as they're walking down the street together arm-in-arm. Gerry's left arm is around Dewey's shoulders with Gerry's right hand resting on Dewey's right shoulder. It's quite an intimate pose for the trio! Warner also used this same pose for a large promo poster. One of the largest America promo posters that I've ever seen is one promoting "Homecoming". I'll have to report back with the measurements.

Message: 15348 Posted: Mon Jan 22 17:01:15 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Exhibit-- WAY off topic ( well, sort of)

If you are in the LA area, don't miss the "A Century of OZ" exhibit at the Los Angeles Public Library Central Library ( that's the one downtown) It is a private collection that will probably not be on exhibit again. It features, among other things, an hourglass and a munchkin costume from the 1939 film, plus stuff from the abandoned Thorpe production. The collection covers all things Oz, plus additional works by L. Frank Baum. Neat.

If you can't make it, but would like a bookmark or two from the exhibit, pleas e-mail me. I have a few to give away.

Message: 15347 Posted: Mon Jan 22 14:50:14 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: This 'n That and A Triv Question

I don't know which picture Billboard used. I have the piano/guitar book Warners issued with Henry Diltz's contact sheet from the photo shot, though! It's pretty cool! There's a plethora of different shots with the guys doing odd and "unusual" things with sporting gear...(lol)

TkH<------What. Florida, cold?

Message: 15346 Posted: Mon Jan 22 12:33:35 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: This 'n That and A Triv Question

Chris, that was an excellent "1st Album Cover Photo Theory" that you mentioned! And I think Dan might have been saying, "'Everyone I Meet Is From California' would be a great choice as that other song."

The whole issue about the debut album having or not having "Horse" on it, is indeed a bit perplexing. The "Highway" booklet states this about it: "When the America album was released in the U.S. in 1972, Warners initially thought that "A Horse With No Name " had been included on the British version. Eventually the error was caught, and the song was added, although a number of copies of the album were released without it."

Wow, how did that happen especially with the promotional copy that I have? A person would think that the first promo copy would have been closely examined before being sent out. So, was "Everyone I Meet..." ever released on any of the debut albums? I do know that "Everyone I Meet", "Horse", and "Sandman" were all on one 45 together as mentioned in the "Highway" booklet.

Since my album has it without "Horse" and it being from the U.S. (as it says on the back of the cover), we know that the year, 1971, was used even though it was issued in 1972. Well, that's my conclusion anyway.

Kiri, yes, I can hear a similarity between "Emma" and "Right Back To Me". That must be the reason why "Emma" is my favorite song from "VGG". I had never thought that until you mentioned it.

Someone here (maybe Andy or Alan) a while back thought "Never Be Lonely" has a similar sound to the Beatles, "Things We Said Today". After reading that post, I listened to the two songs and I too can hear the similarity. I do like "Never Be Lonely" better of the two but they're both great.

Beech, I refuse any further comment! LOL

Here's a triv question: The "Billboard" magazine ad for "Holiday" is similar to the album cover photo. However, there is a definite difference. Who can tell us what Dan, Dewey, and Gerry are doing that's different?

Message: 15345 Posted: Mon Jan 22 11:52:26 2001 By: Pat B.
Subject: Country Music Radio

I was listening to my favorite Country Music radio station (92.5) here in Connecticut, and I was surprized and pleased to hear them play Sister Golden Hair! I never thought of S.G.H. as being a country song, but it sure helped make my Monday morning a lot better!

Happy Birthday Dewey.

Message: 15344 Posted: Mon Jan 22 08:02:44 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: The Top 2001

Interestingly, I spoke to our local "easy listening" radio station recently about their America play list. They still play two America songs on a regular basis - Sister Golden Hair mainly, with Ventura Highway second. I always like to hear these songs come over the radio, of course, but requested that they play some of their more recent material too. Unfortunately, they simply do focus type feedback sessions at these stations where listeners identify songs they know, because, presumably, these are the songs they hear on the radio! A vicious circle of sorts as no new material gets heard. They mentioned Horse With No Name, Tin Man, Lonely People and You Can Do Magic as tracks they sometimes re try, but their audience surveys are not as positive. I'll keep trying to get them to listen to "From A Moving Train" - at least they had heard of the Human Nature album.
they used to play

Message: 15343 Posted: Mon Jan 22 08:02:26 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: No Horse ...... 30 Years ago?

I'll see what I can find out.

Message: 15342 Posted: Mon Jan 22 07:38:04 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: No Horse ...... 30 Years ago?

Thanks Tom T - was there an album cover with your debut copy with any other info? Assume it was a Warner Bros UK release?
Looks like we are still looking for THE month in 1971.
SteveL - can you help any further with your contacts? How is Gerry and Deweys' memory of these things after almost 30 years?

Message: 15341 Posted: Mon Jan 22 05:04:35 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Ladies and Gentlemen....

And your point is???? (LOLOLOL)

TkH<-----------4 more years!!!

Message: 15340 Posted: Sun Jan 21 19:50:27 2001 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: The Master

Yes, I agree, it's very tragic, I allways wonder what he would be doing if he were still alive.
Whats really weird, it took the death of John Lennon to reunite The Beatles.

Message: 15339 Posted: Sun Jan 21 19:42:16 2001 By: kiri
Subject: Re: johnny's alibi

gerry's "emma" seems to have some "right back to me" influence in it.

Message: 15338 Posted: Sun Jan 21 17:47:25 2001 By: Dan
Subject: The Master

Just had to say I've been catching up reading the last few days' posts and I was sitting here listening to the John Lennon Anthology. Talk about wishing for a reunion. Tragic is all I can say.DanC.

Message: 15337 Posted: Sun Jan 21 12:26:18 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Ladies and Gentlemen....

Beech, these items come to mind when I think of Milan: leather bags and purses, leather coats, leather pants, hats, lovely dresses, fine jewelry, perfume and colgne, wooden and metal crafts of all kinds, and lots and lots of beautiful blown glass. No doubt there are lots of fine men's wear but they seemed to be heavily outweighed by the women's. But, you're right, a man could be interested in all these things too. :0)

Message: 15336 Posted: Sun Jan 21 12:15:36 2001 By: Tom T.
Subject: No Horse

Hi Everybody- I just wanted to add that I have a "No Horse" Version of the 1st LP but it is on a Green Warner Brothers Label. My sister in law was throwing out some albums when I came across this unique find. Unfortunately, it IS pretty beat up- but I have to keep it simply because it is so unique! Hope all is well with everybody! Wow- are we snowed in here in Connecticut! It's incredible- a real Winter Wonderland! See Ya- Teetee

Message: 15335 Posted: Sun Jan 21 08:53:26 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Ladies and Gentlemen....

<<The ladies would love the shopping in Milan

Um, OK. So that means my Prada/Gucci loving stepDAD wouldn't like Milan? What? Do they only sell lingere there????

Sorry Johnny, just had to give you some ca-ca today!!! (C; Besides YOU made me do it...(snicker)....

Personally I LOVE the food and wine in Italy! Take me to FLORENCE!

TkH<------somewhere outside of left

Message: 15334 Posted: Sun Jan 21 07:57:45 2001 By: bruno
Subject: to Johnny

thank you,Johnny, for the mention.
in album Alibi the song "catch that train" is wonderful.
very pleasant is all album Alibi.
Ciao to all fans.

Message: 15333 Posted: Sat Jan 20 16:36:34 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: The Top 2001

Portland radio station KINK FM recently did a survey of the top 2001 songs of all time {listener voted}. Here are America's placings.

1682 TIN MAN

Thanks to Alan Dutton for the information.

Message: 15332 Posted: Sat Jan 20 16:20:03 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: johnny's alibi

Mark, thanks regarding the "Alibi" ad description. If I had a scanner, I'd scan it for Steve to put on for everyone to see. It's a wonderful ad and it makes me chuckle everytime I look at it, especially seeing Gerry and Dewey smiling like, "No sweat. We've got our alibi and one of you three chumps is in big trouble!"

I think "Alibi" is a great album. I was so disappointed that it wasn't a commercial success in the States. The album has something for everyone. There's not a bad song on it in my opinion. I don't know what more D&G could have done. I guess it just wasn't meant to be. I too really like "Catch That Train". I'm very partial to "Right Back To Me" as well. Like someone mentioned the other day here, I think "RB To Me" should have been a least in the States. Glad it charted for the guys in Mexico. Italy knows a great song when it hears one with "Survival" being a #1 hit there.

Bruno, I love Italy! It is my favorite country of 7 or 8 that I toured during a European vacation some years ago. I was shocked when I went to eat at a Chinese restaurant and the Chinese waiter started speaking to me in Italian. I was expecting to hear him speak broken-English with a Chinese accent or to talk to me in Chinese. I bet I shocked him when I spoke to him in English with a Texas accent! Regarding Italy, what wonderful cities there are like Rome, Florence, Milan, and Venice. I highly recommend Italy to all America fans!!! The ladies would love the shopping in Milan and lovers would love Rome and Venice. For those seeking culture and art, there's Florence, and on and on.

Message: 15331 Posted: Sat Jan 20 13:50:36 2001 By: Alan
Subject: Happy Birthday, Dewey!

Better late than never! Read all the posts yesterday, but didn't have time to post my own birthday wishes for Dewey, so - Happy Birthday!


Message: 15330 Posted: Sat Jan 20 13:19:34 2001 By: msmith
Subject: johnny's alibi

johnny, i enjoyed your detailed alibi post. my two favorite alibi tracks are "catch that train" & "coastline". in fact, i'd have to count "catch that train" among my top ten america favorites. gotta love the harmonica on that tune. happy birthday a day late, dewey. i listened to my all time favorite dewey song in your honor yesterday--"three roses". have an america weekend everyone!

Message: 15329 Posted: Sat Jan 20 12:44:27 2001 By: bruno
Subject: to America

my wife is teacher of violin (classis music) but I prefer the music of great America (my preference for Silent Letter and Alibi)
Ciao to all fans

Message: 15328 Posted: Sat Jan 20 07:53:17 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: Horse - Was it 30 Years Ago?

Thanks Steve,
The Lyrics section of your page is absolutely awesome - I encourage everyone to make your way through it. I have started with about 40 of my favourite tracks and will get to all of them eventually!

Regarding the actual U.K. release date in 1971 - I think we should be able to find out the actual month - we should not change History now. I am not in the industry, but does Warner Music still have such info?

I have also been wondering how many regular visitors to this site are from outside the USA. Maybe, as an idea, when we all post next, if you are outside the USA, can you let us know what country you are from. I see Bruno in Italy is waiting on a tour date from the guys. I am not the only Aussie either!! Surely there must be some UK regulars to this site too.

Anyway, let's get the actual 30 year anniversary right and let the party begin .............

Chris from Perth, Western Australia

Message: 15327 Posted: Sat Jan 20 07:24:55 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: No Horse - Was it 30 Years Ago?

Chris, I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the Highway Highlights on the web site. It took a lot of time for me to put them all in. Knowing that at least one person is looking at them, makes it all worthwhile.

Regarding the official release date, I don't know the answer but it's likely that someone on the chat folder does. If nobody comes forth with a definitive answer, I say we pick a reasonable date. July 4th might work as a good day to celebrate since the rest of the USA will be celebrating with us (fireworks, etc.).

Message: 15326 Posted: Sat Jan 20 07:17:57 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: No Horse - Was it 30 Years Ago?

Thanks for the info. Firstly, my original "America" album wore out around 1973/4. I just listened to the taped copies after that, until a CD version was released of course. I see that the liner notes from the CD say that the debut album was released in January 1972!! I also found the comprehensive notes on Steve's home page "lyrics" section from the Highway box set for "Horse With No Name". Highway is not available down here yet, so I find the "Highway Highlights" very interesting - they say that "America" was released in Britain to only a moderate response (No Horse remember). Five months after the 1971 release date (still do not know what month??), the band went back to the studio to demo four new tunes. One of these was "Horse" (although known as "Desert Song" originally). This track was added for the U.S., Europe (and Australia) release in early 1972.

If you count back from January 1972, the U.K. release date must have been July, 1971 (or earlier). So when do we celebrate the "Official" 30 Years Anniversary?

Regarding my "No Horse" album - I compared it to a 1972 release copy at the record store and it seemed identical, other than the omission of "Horse", so 5 tracks on Side 1, and 6 on side 2. Playing times identical to yours. It is a Warner Bros. U.K. Recording distributed by Kinney Record Group Ltd. The background colour has a more orange, sort of speckled look to it, but otherwise identical. Yes, I see Dewey's single index finger - I thought he was saying : "Gee guys, I feel as though we just need one more track on this album ....... " Dan thinks it was a pretty funny thought ..........

So what month in 1971 was "America" released in the U.K. so we can have our 30 year anniversary ??

Message: 15325 Posted: Sat Jan 20 04:20:48 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: No I said

Bones let me ponder that one, while you tell me why, if a building is already built, why it is called a building? Johnny, are you sure about that?

Kiri, Dewey sang Wind Wave twice? Uh's a is proven that people who are advancing in age begin to start repeating themselves. Or perhaps he forgot he already sang it! Oh no. :=0

Message: 15324 Posted: Fri Jan 19 18:56:26 2001 By: kiri
Subject: happy bday

"you can't help getting older, but you don't have to get old." - george burns

thanks for two great shows last night. didn't realize we were practically "celebrating" your birthday with you. thanks for singing "wind wave" - twice...and i didn't get you anything!

Message: 15323 Posted: Fri Jan 19 16:42:15 2001 By: Bones
Subject: Re: No, I said.

Janice - If a person can get a charlie horse, then what does a horse get? a charlie person? I don't think so.
Happy Birthday to you Mr. Bunnell, listened to Three Roses a number of times today, thanks for a great song.

Message: 15322 Posted: Fri Jan 19 15:32:55 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY.........

May I add my Best Wishes to the growing number of birthday greetings? Many more Happy Birthdays Dewey!

Message: 15321 Posted: Fri Jan 19 15:07:04 2001 By: Erin
Subject: Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY.........

Dewey!!! Happy Birthday!
I hope you have a terrific day and an even better deserve it!!

Erin :o)

Message: 15320 Posted: Fri Jan 19 14:19:35 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Triv Answer

Oh, okay Janice...thanks! Well, the triv answer is false. It is not possible to sneeze with your eyes "they" say. Talk about an "off topic"!!!

Message: 15319 Posted: Fri Jan 19 14:03:16 2001 By: Janice
Subject: Johnny...

You didn't miss anything..Bones and I were just being silly. :-)...trying to lighten the mood, that's all. Have a great weekend everyone!

Message: 15318 Posted: Fri Jan 19 11:51:00 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: No Horse With No Name

Chris, I don't know what the true answers are. I can tell you what my two copies of America's debut album and its cover have written on them.

The album cover with "Horse": "A Horse with No Name" recorded at Morgan Studios, London. Made in U.S.A. 1971 Warner Bros. Records Inc.

The album cover without "Horse": It's identical to the above but without the mention of "Horse".

My copy without "Horse" has a white label which means that it's a promo copy. There are major differences when comparing the two labels. The playing time on the white label is listed apart from the song. For example, this is how side one appears:


Playing Time: 20:36

1. 3:02
2. 5:03
3. 3:54
4. 3:07
5. 5:30

1. RIVERSIDE (Bunnell)
2. SANDMAN (Bunnell)
3. THREE ROSES (Bunnell)
4. CHILDREN (Bunnell)
5. HERE (Beckley)

Chris, I'd like to know what differences there are between your album cover and label without "Horse" and one with "Horse".

Another Theory About The Debut Album Cover Photo: Dewey's counting off the number of years that he thinks America will still be around with each finger representing 30 years. He's already flicked-out his index finger for the first 30. Apparently, he's about to flick-out his middle finger for the other 30!

Message: 15317 Posted: Fri Jan 19 11:42:10 2001 By: jeff brink
Subject: Pages...

PAGES is my favorite D. Bunnell song...period.

GOODBYE HIGHWAY (VGG) for Mr. Beckley...for now. NOW SUE (GMG) a very close second.

carry on...jb

Message: 15316 Posted: Fri Jan 19 11:23:05 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Happy Birthday Dewey!

Best wishes for a great birthday and many, many more!!!!

Message: 15315 Posted: Fri Jan 19 10:53:23 2001 By: daisyjane64
Subject: Happy Birthday Dewey!

Hope you have a great day and many more to come.Lisa

Message: 15314 Posted: Fri Jan 19 10:00:07 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Furthermore...

Janice, I must have missed reading about your sneezing because I haven't a clue about what you and Bones are talking about. What'd I miss?

Okay, here's a trivia statement for everyone since we're on the subject: It is possible to sneeze with your eyes open. Is this true or false?

(To Howie: I'm still browsing.)

Message: 15313 Posted: Fri Jan 19 09:22:23 2001 By: Janice
Subject: Furthermore...

I wasn't done and accidently hit enter. Bones, yes..all sneezing on my part is done with my eyes open.

Johnny..I am ready for your next trivia question. I correctly answered the $100 question on "Millionaire" and am on a roll.

And lastly, I know nobody would be interested in this, but AJ's band is opening for another band (one that he is a former member of) downtown Atlanta in May. Guitar lessons are paying off, but I told him he is still going to college! Kids. Another gray hair.

That's all..and don't call any numbers with area code 809!

Message: 15312 Posted: Fri Jan 19 09:20:42 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: To The Birthday Guy

Happy, Happy Birthday MR. DEW!!! "I DEW Believe In You" because musically, "You Can DEW Magic"! Enjoy Sir!!!

PS: I'm sure glad you were born. :0)

Message: 15311 Posted: Fri Jan 19 09:17:39 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Happy Birthday Dewey

Dewey, many wishes for a Happy Birthday.
Have a great day and enjoy.
Thanks for all the great music throughout the years.

Message: 15310 Posted: Fri Jan 19 09:10:06 2001 By: Janice
Subject: Happy Birthday Dewey!

Want to begin this post with an on-topic subject..raising my toppling-over-with-Chinese-food-fork to Dewey! (ok Beech?) lol..

Message: 15309 Posted: Fri Jan 19 07:51:19 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Mystery Encore

Click on the links below to download MP3 soundclips of the mystery encore:

All My Life
Dewey Thanking Everyone
Horse With No Name

Message: 15308 Posted: Fri Jan 19 07:38:58 2001 By: EDDY
Subject: Happy B-day !

Happy Birthday Dewey!
Best wishes!

Message: 15307 Posted: Fri Jan 19 07:11:37 2001 By: Nina
Subject: Birthday Wishes

Best wishes to you, Dewey, on your January birthday! Hope it's a happy one, surrounded by people you love!


Message: 15306 Posted: Fri Jan 19 06:47:25 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Zen Knee Pads Chatting

I seem to be making a lot of apologies lately when it comes to chat. After spending 8 hours in Kilz and D.I.F. fumes I just forgot what day it really was......SIGH......I've been spending all my free time fixing the kids bathroom (our family room is next)up. I figure by March 31st I'll be done with home renovations (I better be, the MAN goes on the road for the year, my "honey-do" will be GONE...sigh). I guess if someone wanted to take the time to KICK MY BUTT on the folder (lololol) and remind me-I'd be more inclined to remember.....poor excuse, I know!!!! Especially when I was the one who wanted them to start earlier. I'm an A@#, I know...

Again, My APOLOGIES.... )C= I'm going to make a CONCERTED EFFORT TO BE BETTER!!!!!!

TkH<-------I'm Popeye the sailor man......

Message: 15305 Posted: Fri Jan 19 06:41:13 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Another "Off Subject" especially for Janice!!!

Ok, so I sign on to AOL this morning and what do I see......"Track Flu In Your State". Hmmmmmmm. I could think of more FASCINATING things to do with my internet time (like try to find advanced copies of Dubya's inagural speech--"See Spot. See Spot Run"). How screwed up it that, anyway. I firmly believe if you EXPECT to get the flu this season, you WILL! So, lets just ALL go out there and track that influenza bug!!!!!

TkH<------sex over ignorance ANY DAY!

Message: 15304 Posted: Fri Jan 19 06:36:33 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY.........

Ditto on the Natal Observances here.....My Grandmother and Mr. dB share this day natally, only about 40 years apart.....I wonder if they share any traits? CAN HE BAKE GOOD COOKIES? CAN HE SEW REALLY, REALLY WELL? IS HE PRACTICAL? Ok, just kidding....Happy Birthday to all who have this day!

TkH<--------elbow pads too!

Message: 15303 Posted: Fri Jan 19 06:07:36 2001 By: Maureen
Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY.........

Hi Dewey,
Just wanted to wish you a very HAPPY BIRTHDAY and many, many, more !!!

Message: 15302 Posted: Fri Jan 19 05:58:47 2001 By: holiday
Subject: No Horse With No Name

I'd read in these pages that the earliest versions of the "America" debut album did not have "A Horse With No Name". This track was recorded at Morgan Studios, London, the others at Trident. The debut album had a January 1972 U.S. release, I believe.
So imagine my surprise today when visiting my local "plastic passion" record store (Isn't vinyl great?) and noticing a 1971 release "America"? It was a Kinney Record Group Ltd, UK pressing recorded at Trident Studios with 11 tracks and no sign of "Horse".
It is unmarked and cost me the princely sum of AUS$7 (about US$3.50). Understandably, I didn't haggle over the price. They actually have a good range of America albums on vinyl but of course, only one copy of this UK pressing. It does not confirm the month of 1971 release. So I was wondering - when is the exact America 30 year anniversary of their first release coming up later this year? Is it November/December? Should we run a competition? I was thinking of putting the album up as a prize - but I don't know the answer and couldn't risk losing it!!
According to "Hourglass" liner notes, it seems to say their first album was 1970? I always thought, before today's find, that it was January 1972 with the U.S. release date. Who can help clarify?

Regarding "Alibi", I only got a copy of it in 1994 (from the same store!) after I had picked up a copy of "Encore" and found out that there was such an album! (We are a bit behind Down Under, but it is great to have this site now and catch up on missing albums). I liked "Alibi" straight away - all the tracks and thought that "Right Back To Me" also stood out in addition to the others mentioned in recent posts.
However, "View From The Ground" must rate as their best post-Dan production. I like all the tracks on that too but the infusion of a new creative direction with Russ Ballard obviously paid dividends commercially. Anyway, these two albums are stand outs for me.
Regards friends,

Message: 15301 Posted: Thu Jan 18 21:41:04 2001 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: The "Alibi" Album Ad

Yes, yes ALIBI came out w/lots of fanfare. It was an LP that GERRY & DEWEY poured their hearts & soul into. There was no more Sir George. They enlisted the support of some of the best studio musicians in the business at the time. For their live concerts they had a
huge A L I B I overhead banner that was nearly at the width of the stage. This sign still exists. SURVIVAL (no.1 in Italy) & YOU COULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE were 2 outstanding songs that came out of ALIBI. When AMERICA hosted the Midnite Special, they played SURVIVAL, YOU COULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE & VALENTINE. I think this LP should be re-released, acoustic 6 & 12 string rhythms w/electric leads is back. AMERICA's latest is HIGHWAY: 30 YEARS OF AMERICA & HUMAN NATURE.

Message: 15300 Posted: Thu Jan 18 17:51:45 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: The "Alibi" Album Ad

Does anyone remember the great America "Alibi" ad in Billboard Magazine back when it was released? I'll try my best to describe it.

There's five guys standing in front of a police line-up. You know like what you see on tv...the white background with the black lines and numbers that give you an idea of each person's height?

On the farthest left is the first guy who's Asian. He's dressed in a white muscle t-shirt tucked into his blue jeans. He has his arms crossed resting across his chest. His eyes are blacked-out with a black strip over them.

The next guy looks to be Hispanic or Italian. He's very slim and has short black hair. He's wearing a black t-shirt tucked into his beltless blue jeans. His hands are behind his back. His eyes also have a black strip across them.

The fellow on the farthest right in the line-up is wearing a yellow and white striped button-up shirt with the left tail of his shirt hanging out in the front. He's a curly red-head. He has his thumbs sticking in the front pockets of his blue jeans. He too has a black strip across his eyes.

And now for the two most suspicious characters in the line-up!!! Dewey's fourth in line-up. To his left is the guy in the yellow and white striped shirt and to his right is Gerry. Dewey's got a great smile on his face with his arms across his chest. He looks happy to be there! He's wearing an aqua blue button-up shirt with what looks like many small white-colored islands with a few palm trees and a bird or two on each island. It's hard to tell for sure. His shirt tail is hanging out over his blue jeans and he's wearing white tennies. Dewey looks to be about my height of 5'7". There's no black strip across his eyes.

And for the final guy in the line-up. Gerry is in the center of this motley crew. He, like Dewey, has a great smile on his face. Gerry is dressed very nicely in a white suit jacket (like on "Perspective") and matching white pants with what looks to be a brown button-up shirt. Gerry's standing at a 45 degree angle with his left leg straight and his right leg slightly bent at the knee and the tip of his right tennis-shoe-dressed foot pointing down toward the ground. In Gerry's right hand and arm, he's clutching the "Alibi" album cover. Gerry looks to be standing at about 5'9" to 5'10". There's no black strip across Gerry's eyes either, of course. Like Dewey, Gerry looks to be very happy to be there!

At the top of the ad, it says, "AMERICA HAS A GREAT ALIBI!" At the bottom, it reads: "America And Their New Album, ALIBI, Are Due For Release Today. Contains The Single 'You Could've Been The One'. Produced by Matthew McCauley & Fred Mollin. Direction: Hartmann & Goodman".

A small picture of the album cover is in the lower-right of the ad. I think this ad could have been a great "Alibi" album cover itself! The whole ad looks great and was a very clever idea!!!

Message: 15299 Posted: Thu Jan 18 17:11:35 2001 By: Janice
Subject: No, I said.

Bones and Beech, you are baiting me..but I told you no more posts today, and I meant it. You'll just have to wait until tomorrow before I can respond about Chinese food and sneezing with my eyes open. So there.

Message: 15298 Posted: Thu Jan 18 16:37:38 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Zen Knee Pads

no, that's Zen and the art of Knee maintenence. Beechlady i was about to put an APB out on you. I did not see you in the chat room last evening.

Message: 15297 Posted: Thu Jan 18 16:14:18 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Zen Knee Pads

I didn't know that good knees and youth were mutually exclusive. SO, THAT EXPLAINS THAT!!!! Wow. As for the knee PADS, I've always found them EXCELLENT for bikini tops.......(velcro and elastic work WONDERS!)...especially if you get rip-snorting, then fall forward.....BTW, Janice, how many times can you eat left over Chinese on one millenium?????? (LOL)

TkH<-------miles of inane!

Message: 15296 Posted: Thu Jan 18 16:02:11 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Big Day In Iowa

Ditto Alan!

Message: 15295 Posted: Thu Jan 18 14:49:46 2001 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Big Day In Iowa

Red Oak writes: << Would try and make Salt Lake in June but don't know whether the Mormons will let a Nazarene in their state or not. >>

Being a Mormon myself, and having visited Salt Lake City, I can assure you that you would be most welcome there - regardless of what religion you are.

Message: 15294 Posted: Thu Jan 18 13:40:53 2001 By: jeff brink
Subject: ...carry on

...took the day off and went to the used record stores in Athens. Out of the dollar bin today we have...CHICAGO, HALL & OATS, and out of the .50 bin there's ROGER WILLIAMS, ROY CONIFF, PAUL MAURIAT & his orchestra and a 1975 album by TIM MOORE of SECOND AVENUE fame.

Now, as we used to say when I was young and had good Knees...carry on.


Message: 15293 Posted: Thu Jan 18 12:16:00 2001 By: Bones
Subject: re: warning off topic

Janice, Do you think your eyes would pop out of your head if you sneezed with your eyes open? Why are they always closed?

Message: 15292 Posted: Thu Jan 18 09:52:14 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Just one more thing, I promise..

My zen calendar's thought for the day is a quote from Yogi Berra "if you ask me a question I don't know, I'm not going to answer" Who knew the old guy was so Zen!

I hope everyone has taken the time to visit You will be impressed!

Message: 15291 Posted: Thu Jan 18 09:48:43 2001 By: red oak
Subject: Big Day In Iowa

See the big day has finally arrived in Altoona, Iowa for the America blitz. Hope they don't freeze their tushies off going to the big shindig. Surprising to see the state of Iowa get so many good groups to play concerts. I can see playing there in the summer but not in winter. But, they are inside and all should be well. Willie Leacox will be back in his native state even tho Shenandoah is way down in the southwest corner of the state. He probably doesn't want to claim the town either after leaving there. Am looking forward to the March 15 get together in Ft Collins, Colorado. Would try and make Salt Lake in June but don't know whether the Mormons will let a Nazarene in their state or not. Besides, I'm not Blonde. You Iowans have a nice night and I will wait for Ft. Collins.

Message: 15290 Posted: Thu Jan 18 09:42:17 2001 By: Janice
Subject: Just one more thing, I promise..

I know..too much time on my life..ok..
Anyway, I wanted to say that inasmuch as I am guilty of all that I said in my previous post, I sincerely recognize what this page is all about. It is not about venting..self-promotion (or any kind of promotion for that matter) is about a shared interest and love of a band that most of us grew up with. I am happy that Matt posts and would love to hear what Deweys's kids are up to. Then again, it would be great if Gerry and Dewey would post (even if it was via Steve for privacy reasons). Ok..back to leftover more posts for the rest of the day, I promise.

Message: 15289 Posted: Thu Jan 18 09:15:14 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: warning off topic

I agree Deb...diverse opinion is always interesting reading. I check and post on this folder as often as time allows, and lately I have not known what to expect. I guess, unless I receive hate-mail asking me to go away (not to give any of you ideas)..I will continue to post whatever relative (or non-relative, dull, boring, know, the stuff I normally post)..I will stay. What the heck..I'd stay anyway just to annoy everyone. Lol..
What John? Your elbow pads don't cover your ankles? Oh no!! :-)

Message: 15288 Posted: Thu Jan 18 08:55:34 2001 By: Deb
Subject: Re: warning: off topic

Did you know also that just because someone gives their opinion, it does not make it true? Although, mr. anonymous sure livened up this board...have to say its been interesting reading.

Message: 15287 Posted: Thu Jan 18 08:33:57 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: warning: off topic

Hmmm, I guess that would also explain why the elbow pads don't fit over my ankles.

Message: 15286 Posted: Thu Jan 18 08:09:00 2001 By: Janice
Subject: warning: off topic

Not to change the subject..but did any of you know that shin guards are not meant to protect any part of the body that they do not cover? I feel better knowing that and just had to share. :-)
Hope everyone has a delightful day.

Message: 15285 Posted: Thu Jan 18 05:53:56 2001 By: Beechlady

WOW, Terry. I KNEW IT----this is all just a hoax from you Caymen Concert attendees to throw us on to the wrong track!!!!! But us conspiracy theorists KNOW better! I think the real message (of things to come)is underneath that circle on Gerry's T-shirt (Homecoming) that was mysteriously blotted out........

TkH<-------driving further

Message: 15284 Posted: Wed Jan 17 18:33:27 2001 By: TerryT
Subject: Re: Dan./Cayman Show

I very much agree with your rationale, Kevin. When I went there, I was expecting rather than knowing but still hoping and dreaming in a gradiose way. When we got there, all things still seemed possible until the concert started, and then I got the feeling that this wasn't the time (YET). Looking back now, it's so obvious. IF it ever happens, and I disagree with "putting away to rest" any dreams, it would have to be one stage at a time. This was the re-beginning of the acoustic stage, which was a task in itself. Their chances of a public reunion are still much better than one for The Beatles, if you know what I mean. I must admit that the three stools and microphones that lingered onstage from the previous act caused a little wondering for awhile until the stools and one of the mics were removed.

When Dewey said, "...this is where we usually introduce Michael Woods", or noticed it was funny how they write, then record a song in the studio with all the overdubs, then play it acoustically again, that the audience fills in the parts from the recording or band version for them, I realized they had enough on their hands already from the format itself.

Gerry gave tribute to Jim Webb, they both complimented The Beatles as being their fave band, and Dewey still refers to Wind Wave as an obscure song. Much was said about the endangered critters, and Dewey mentioned how the color of the tambourine was like the color around the mouths of those baby sea turtles, and later attributed any "goof-ups" to the bends from a deep sea dive the day before.

Gerry impressed me with his backup oohs and ahhs, which sounded like three singers at once. When Dewey sang his part in The Last Unicorn, he had those "magic eyes", like a Sesame Street preschool teacher singing to the little ones. I kept turning to Jane and saying, "I can't believe all this sound is coming from two guys!". It was like the rest of the sound as we know it was there, too.

Message: 15283 Posted: Wed Jan 17 16:53:43 2001 By: Nanse
Subject: steve perry and dewey

does anyone know that dewey played guitar and sings on steve perry's single "oh sherry"? also if you watch the video, you can see dewey standing in a corner strumming on a guitar. it is really cool. i just thought of this as i was driving home listening to "oh sherry" on the radio. hadn't thought of that in years. also, when i hear the commercial for SAVON drugs here in s. california, the beginning of the song sure sounds a lot like the beginning of From a Moving Train. anyone else notice that......just random thoughts for the day. take it easy........nanse

Message: 15282 Posted: Wed Jan 17 16:47:36 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: Dan.

When I first heard about the Cayman Concert, I thought for a just a split second that this might be it. I figured, it was just too coincidental to have a Cayman. But,when the next day there wasn't a massive amount of hype about it a possible reunion concert from the record company, I knew it wasn't going to happen. The entire music business is about hype, and you simply don't keep the biggest news that would have happened to America in 20 years a secret. I went down to the Cayman knowing that I wasn't going to see Dan Peek on stage. I didn't. What I saw was the best America concert I've ever seen (and I've seen more than 30.)

If you believe only one thing, believe this. If there was ever going to be a reunion, bet your ass that it would be plastered all over this page by America's record company and management. Hype equals dollars.

America was better with Dan Peek. America is still better than anyone else without Dan Peek.


Message: 15281 Posted: Wed Jan 17 13:18:31 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: looking for dan

Regarding Mark's last post, I certainly respect Mark's thoughts but I strongly disagree. The "anonymous" fan was definitely slamming Dan, in my opinion. I sense a deep, deep feeling of anger in his message. It's the same type of anger that he vented toward me (and Beechlady) when I received quite a number of his perverse and anonymous flames back in August of last year. To see him slam Dan, really angers me. For whatever reason there is for DD&G not reuniting, I respect it. Perhaps it's because of personal reasons. If so, it's not any of my business; it's all between the three of them. I truly respect them for keeping it between them and for being so professional about it. What I do not respect is the "anonymous" fan's attempt to cast a bad light on Dan. I will support Dewey and Gerry as America and I will support Dan as a solo artist and former member of our favorite group.

I will say one more thing and I'll end. When the flamer sent me his first message back in August, he said my postings were driving away a lot of "prominent" fans that are needed to help keep America moving "in the right direction". I foolishly fell for his sly trick. I thought he was sending me the message as a representative for Gerry and Dewey. It was written in that way or at least that's what I thought. As I say, I was foolish to have thought that, but if you were on the receiving end, you may have thought the same thing.

So who made this guy the "Chat Folder Patrol" back in August and who made this guy the "Dan Peek Patrol" this past week?

Message: 15280 Posted: Wed Jan 17 12:48:51 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: Very funny, Steve

John..I let out a gasp that shook the building..I'm quite sure that everyone was curious as to what website I was peering at. :-0 Steve, you are truly a computer genius..and Terry..well, never mind.

Message: 15279 Posted: Wed Jan 17 12:07:17 2001 By: Howard Lieboff

SIR DAN.............CIRCA 1984

Message: 15278 Posted: Wed Jan 17 12:02:46 2001 By: AmericaSL

I want to give credit where credit is due. Terry REALLY DID send me the photo. I just posted it for him. So, do we give the credit to Terry or to the x-ray machine?

Message: 15277 Posted: Wed Jan 17 11:11:34 2001 By: John Lussier

(see, I was right!) Sir Steve wouldn't lie. If this isn't proof I don't know what is!
Too funny, Steve! I actually laughed out loud. My admin assistant must think I'm nuts.

Message: 15276 Posted: Wed Jan 17 10:01:34 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re:Does Dan Peek Exist/Reply to John Lussier

>>I don't know if Elvis is still with Dan or not (LOL). <<

I don't think so, but I hear Jim Morrison is...

Message: 15275 Posted: Wed Jan 17 09:26:11 2001 By: Howard Lieboff


Message: 15274 Posted: Wed Jan 17 09:02:06 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Mystery Photo

The X rays at customs must have affected Terry's film, this is the only shot that came out...LOL.

Mystery Photo

Message: 15273 Posted: Wed Jan 17 09:00:10 2001 By: Janice
Subject: So Dan does exist...

Farmington, Missouri?? There's not even an airport in Farmington, Missouri..( excellent reason to move there!). Well, Dan, since you are stuck on the farm and probably have nothing better to do than read our corny posts about your whereabouts, we will expect no less than 6 new chapters on your bio..that's right 6! Now. :-)

Message: 15272 Posted: Wed Jan 17 08:40:25 2001 By: jimnak
Subject: Re:Does Dan Peek Exist/Reply to John Lussier

Thanks for the update Steve. I swore I saw Dan at the local 7-eleven.

Message: 15271 Posted: Wed Jan 17 08:16:18 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re:Does Dan Peek Exist/Reply to John Lussier

FYI: Dan is currently living in Farmington, MO. His brother, Tom, tells me that Dan has been on the farm there for several months now, and that severe winter weather has kept him at the farm for 3 weeks in a row.

[End of serious part of post]
I don't know if Elvis is still with Dan or not (LOL).

Message: 15270 Posted: Wed Jan 17 07:35:59 2001 By: Mark
Subject: Re:Does Dan Peek Exist/Reply to John Lussier

Oh come one now!!! Let's be serious! Of course Dan exists. In fact I saw him and Elvis doing some last minute Christmas shopping at the mall just last month!

Message: 15269 Posted: Wed Jan 17 07:19:07 2001 By: Pat B.
Subject: Cayman Concert

I've been enjoying the descriptive reviews and nice photos of the Cayman Island Concert. Thanks a whole bunch to everyone who attended for sharing what obviously was an excellent evening with AMERICA!

Regarding the anonymous person who seemed rather happy by bashing Dan, I have a question: are they a real and true fan of AMERICA?!

I don't think so.

Even though Dan chose to quit and is no longer an 'offical' member of the band, I believe with my heart and soul that DAN PEEK will ALWAYS and FOREVER be a real member of AMERICA!!!

Dan doesn't necessarily have to be on stage physically; because his presence is felt spiritually through the music!!!

Although Dan's place on stage has been vacant in recent years;


Message: 15268 Posted: Wed Jan 17 07:17:53 2001 By: Nina
Subject: Re:Does Dan Peek Exist/Reply to John Lussier

Hey John...I favor the "28-IF" theory! (Doesn't that PIN that Dan is wearing on the "Hearts" album cover represent the ancient Mayan bird of death?) Keep looking for those album cover clues...they're endless!

Message: 15267 Posted: Wed Jan 17 06:32:15 2001 By: msmith
Subject: looking for dan

this post is probably best left unposted, defense of the anonymous fan, and i have no clue who it may be, i don't think that he was bashing anyone. he searched the valleys and the hills looking for dan and didn't find any sign of him. is it any crime for a fool like (this guy) to try to use (his) time 'cause he wanted to see (dan)? ...don't think he was bashing anyone. rock on america fans.

Message: 15266 Posted: Tue Jan 16 21:04:42 2001 By: EDDY
Subject: Superman

When can expect MORE of this!!??

Message: 15265 Posted: Tue Jan 16 20:29:53 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Cayman Poster

One more photo has been added to the Cayman concert photos. It is a picture of the poster announcing the concert. Thanks to the anonymous fan who sent it to me.

Message: 15264 Posted: Tue Jan 16 20:28:33 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: off topic...

Nice site!

TkH<-------needs new squirrels...

Message: 15263 Posted: Tue Jan 16 20:22:34 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Does Dan Peek exist?

AND what about this "Harry" guy? Was HE the actual CREATOR of Dan? Did he ACTUALLY SURF?

TkH<-------magic Harry theory

Message: 15262 Posted: Tue Jan 16 20:04:26 2001 By: Erin
Subject: Re: off topic...

WOW!! What a cool website!! Can't wait to see more...

Erin :o)

Message: 15261 Posted: Tue Jan 16 19:19:34 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: off topic...

I agree it takes a bit to load, but is worth the wait. Nice work!

Message: 15260 Posted: Tue Jan 16 18:35:21 2001 By: Erin
Subject: Re: off topic...

WOW!! What a cool website!! Can't wait to see more...

Erin :o)

Message: 15259 Posted: Tue Jan 16 18:22:59 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: Does Dan Peek Exist?

Ok Ok...that was tooooo funny though, John! (she says as she runs to her LP collection to see for

Message: 15258 Posted: Tue Jan 16 17:33:51 2001 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: off topic...

Matt, very impressive Web site. A wideband (cable modem or DSL) connection helpful for sure. Full motion video & sound is only a moment away. When is your debut commercial CD release ? The crowd is awaiting.

Message: 15257 Posted: Tue Jan 16 17:19:20 2001 By: mBluLight
Subject: off topic...

not nearly as exciting as all the fervor going on as of late, but for those who care, has been officially launched. it is still very much under construction, and the first time we've ever made web pages, but i think it's fun. highly recommend the high speed version, though it takes about 3 minutes to load.



Message: 15256 Posted: Tue Jan 16 14:57:03 2001 By: Spurs
Subject: Caymans

Hello every one,looks like a fantastic time was had by all on the Caymans,but I have to say tinged with some disappointment,playing in Dan's backyard so to speak,I'd hoped and wished that maybe they would be a threesome for a while,not reunited just playing for the fun of it.Makes me wonder if they exchange Christmas cards? or have lost touch completely.The fact remains these three guys are still making music in their own way,the best news now would be hearing that "America" have been in the studio laying down some new tracks for a new album.

Message: 15255 Posted: Tue Jan 16 14:02:09 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Does Dan Peek exist?

Hmmmmm. You know, if you look really closely on all of the earlier albums, the videos, etc. you can see where the photos have been touched up around Dan. Notice how Gerry and Dewey cast a shadow but Dan doesn't. I bet he never really existed. They just added some picture of some guy. I think that the early America management decided that a trio would be more successful than a duo and made Dan up. Then, when people started to get on to them (that 3rd guy on the stage in the early 70's never seemed to move) they had him "leave" the group. Aha!

Alas, through pressure from fans, they had to recreate Dan as a solo artist. Made some albums, with the original Milli Vanilli singers, "moved" him to the Caymans so no one would look for him (remember he doesn't really exist). Then, damn it if America doesn't sign up for a concert there. The cover has been blown completely by the anonomous fan... aka Inspector Mills! We can now sleep a little more easily.
The ultimate conspiracy theory.

Message: 15254 Posted: Tue Jan 16 13:14:43 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: More on Cayman

Lisa Rose, that was very sweet of Dan..and yes, he truly does exist! You know, Kevin, my "hmmmmm" was actually an unspoken "sounds like an uninformed reporter digging up dirt" or at least trying to. Fortunately, nothing gets past the real fans and Gerry, Dewey AND Dan know who we are. Countin' the minutes until I go home to my real job..and certainly one that is more enjoyable. :-)

Message: 15253 Posted: Tue Jan 16 13:07:33 2001 By: bruno
Subject: to America

I saw America in the remote september 1982; Gerry and Dewey are you coming bach to Italy again? Ciao Ciao Great Band Bruno

Message: 15252 Posted: Tue Jan 16 11:55:13 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Does Dan Peek exist?

I know Dan does exist cause a few mintutes ago I received an autograph copy of All Things Are Possible. What was really sweet about the package--was the inclusion of a beautiful Peace T-shirt. Have go listen to the "record". Thanks for all the info on the Cayman gig--sounded like a blast. Loved the pictures too---especially the ones without the flash-LOL!

Message: 15251 Posted: Tue Jan 16 11:22:32 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: Does Dan Peek exist?

I was there and I certainly didn't get the same vibe about Dan being "invisible." In fact, just the opposite. Friday's Cayman newspaper ran an article on America and, while they got some fact wrong (they stated that Dan Peek rejoined America in 1993 as part of their Beach Boys tour), the article specifically pointed out with pride that Dan Peek has been a Bodden Town resident for a number of years. If the sound guy has never heard of Peek, maybe he's just clueless.



Message: 15250 Posted: Tue Jan 16 11:04:16 2001 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Cayman Islands Pictures

Pictures look awesome!! Thanks for sharing!

Erin :o)

Message: 15249 Posted: Tue Jan 16 10:46:17 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: More on Cayman

Great review Kevin and very nice photos Jane.

What I don't like is the Dan-bashing done by the "anonymous" fan. I recognize his writing style. He's not anonymous to me. I agree that a reunion isn't in the cards. So what is the point about some folks not knowing who Dan or Peace is? Big deal. Regarding this Dan-bashing, ENOUGH. JOHNNY

Message: 15248 Posted: Tue Jan 16 09:48:13 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: More on Cayman

AND they missed the earthquake back home! Sounds like a wonderful time was had by all!

Message: 15247 Posted: Tue Jan 16 09:40:20 2001 By: Janice
Subject: More on Cayman

Now that I have a few minutes, I read with interest the reviews..Terry, Kevin and Steve's report from the "fan" who turned over every leaf to confirm Dan's non-existance on the island. Hmmm..
I was happy to hear that everyone got front row..I would have passed on the "nose-gaze" too, Kevin! And by this time I am sure that they are oblivious to women gazing at them..either that or they are just respectful to the women that they love. (and nuthin' wrong with that!)..Was glad to hear that the concert's proceeds went for a great cause..and it sounds like everyone had a wonderful time! Welcome home!

Message: 15246 Posted: Tue Jan 16 09:20:55 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: Cayman show, two days later.

The temperature was a perfect 71 degrees. The night sky was black and clear. The yachts and sailboats in the Caribbean were the ideal backdrop. The venue was the beach front of Cayman's oldest and most interesting hotel. The show was a sell out. The crowd was horny for entertainment (apparently the last concert of any significance was REO Speedwagon on 1993.) Having America live in Grand Cayman was like dropiing Bill Clinton in the middle of a sorority panty raid, or in a field of sheep. It was a frenzy. The crowd of almost two thousand had anticipated this for a long time. Concert posters were everywhere. The radio station was hyping the show and playing lots of America. The vibe was positive. Everyone loved America, especially one lovestruck blond with a couple of her own personal floatation devices proudly on display, who perched herself to the side of the stage and stared dreamily at the band the entire time. She kept begging, politely, for Sister Golden Hair. Gerry informed her, graciously, that they'd get to it, they simply had to go by the list. When Sister Golden Hair finally came, in its familiar song-before-the-encore slot, she couldn't contain herself anymore. She jumped up on stage and started dancing. Dewey laughed, but Gerry was either too into the song to notice, or chose not to. In any event, Pete the guitar tech served double duty as stage security and politely escorted her off stage. We were not in the U.S.A. Not only did she not know you don't do that sort of thing, but she also didn' get her head bashed in by some overzealous concert security thug. Even when she jumped on stage a second time, she was simply asked off. I met the dreamy blond afterwards and she was bewildered at why they asked her off the stage. "All I wanted to do was dance." And no wonder. From the moment America took the stage, the entire crowd was on the verge of pandemonium, a very polite pandemonium. I was sitting in the front row, center (thanks to Erin), next to Terry and Jane, and close enough to see up their noses, if I had an inclination to, which I didn't. Dewey and Gerry were gracious to the crowd and the island from the beginning. While the guys seemed to enjoy the all-acoustic performance, it didn't seem to come as easily as the thousands of shows they've done with the band. Without the backing of the band, they were required to play parts they usually don't play. Dewey handled the lead roles brilliantly, even though he pointed out that he'd never really played a lot of those parts before. A couple of times before a song, the guys had to confirm chords and lead progressions. It was as if you were there to witness the creative process in action. A real treat. The energy level was incredible. Highlights for me were: 1) Gerry's inspired piano frenzy to close out Only In Your Heartnothing was left on the table for not having Woods's smoking electric guitar. 2) Dewey's lead work on Sister Golden Hair, Sandman and Wednesday Morningseeing him step in a take charge was worth the price of airfare right there. 3) Meeting Terry and Jane and Lori and others from the Chat Folder.

Good show.


Message: 15245 Posted: Tue Jan 16 07:28:58 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: Cayman

Great Pictures..I can see why you let Jane be the photographer! :-)

Message: 15244 Posted: Tue Jan 16 07:09:11 2001 By: Nina
Subject: Cayman Islands Pictures

How COOL!!! Looks like you were sitting in their laps! I'm pea-green with envy, but also happy that a good time was had by all! Congrats to all who went!

Message: 15243 Posted: Tue Jan 16 06:44:06 2001 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: Cayman / conflict on Dan Peek Story

Thanks for the reports and pictures on the Cayman Acoustic set. It's great to experience some of it through this site. Just wish I could find the volume button in those pictures. Great to see America and some FANS get a deserved vacation in the Sun.

"--As long as all three of them are alive, I think the "grandiose envisions" will stay alive--"

Agreed. One single event will not FINALLY put to rest the dreams of 1970. Every 70's FAN that finds this site anew will ask, "Where is Dan Peek? If --this had nothing to do with Dan Peek why the (In your face Dan) post by the anonymous Fan. For that Fan the visit had a lot to do with Dan Peek. I sure hope America had nothing to do with the post.

Message: 15242 Posted: Tue Jan 16 06:22:15 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Cayman / conflict on Dan Peek Story

Thanks Terry for the songlist/pics look GREAT!!!and the recap.
Glad you had a great time!

On Dan's site quite a while back, a local musician from
Cayman Islands posted a message on his board and said he
had run into Dan's wife while he was in town, etc.
So he probably keeps a low profile as we all know.
Leave it alone already. jeez.

Cayman Islands recorded it?.LOL...just kidding!

Glad everyone had a great time and thanks Steve for putting up the

Message: 15241 Posted: Tue Jan 16 05:27:10 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Cayman/News Brief

I think that the reason the guys were down there was pretty cool. BUT what bugs me about that post is the fact that this unnamed "fan" has to go to great lengths to start some kind of "conspiracy" theory....geez. Get a real life, K? So some people would like to see something happen that may or may not......they're entitled to their hopes as much as this "fan" seems to be determined to BUST them....yikes. No WONDER this "fan" doesn't post this on their own! WOWZA. Hey, what ever happens, HAPPENS, period. WHAT on to some POSITIVITY.

TkH<-------2sf, 1sb

Message: 15240 Posted: Tue Jan 16 05:00:33 2001 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Cayman/News Brief

"I was at the Cayman show and I think that if there was ever going to be a chance of an appearance by Dan that it would have been this weekend. I hope that this FINALLY puts to rest all grandiose envisions of a reunion with Mr. Peek. "

As long as all three of them are alive, I think the "grandiose envisions" will stay alive.

Message: 15239 Posted: Mon Jan 15 21:07:10 2001 By: TerryT
Subject: Cayman Setlist


Ventura Highway
Don't Cross the River
Daisy Jane
To Each His Own
Another Try
Three Roses
I Need You
Wheels (scratched off-did not play)
Tin Man
And Forever
Only in Your Heart
California Dreamin'
Lonely People
Beatle's Song (Things We Said Today)
Sister Golden Hair
All My Life (encore)
Horse With No Name (encore)

Special thanks to Pete and some special America Friends for the official song list. Being in the front row and trying to jot down songs would have caused whiplash, as I didn't want to take my eyes off them! I couldn't seem to get anything together, including being personally notified mid-song by a venue official that flash photography wasn't allowed. Funny, considering that the Guys were already blinded by spotlights and constant flashes going off all around. The photos that were recently posted by Steve were all taken by Jane. My humble contributions will follow.

Message: 15238 Posted: Mon Jan 15 19:12:09 2001 By: msmith
Subject: cayman

steve, thanks for posting the pictures so quickly--they were really good, and thanks tt & jane for taking them. steve, your post #15235 was most interesting and provided the kind of information that i, at least, was looking for, i.e., why the caymans. also the information provided by the anonymous america fan (i guess we can all try to guess who that might have been) about the locals not having a clue who dan was, was really weird. all in all some great posts and excitement for us america fans.

Message: 15237 Posted: Mon Jan 15 19:02:54 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Rockline Radio Interview

I received a professional copy of the Rockline Radio interview today and have digitized it. No more fading in and out like my original copy. The interview is in RealAudio format and is broken into 3 segments:

Segment 1
Segment 2
Segment 3

Message: 15236 Posted: Mon Jan 15 17:55:17 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Cayman Photos Posted

The Cayman Island concert photos have been posted. To see them click on the following links:

Group 1
Group 2
Group 3

Thanks again to Terry and Jane for making them available.

Message: 15235 Posted: Mon Jan 15 15:56:15 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Cayman/News Brief

I received the photos from Terry and Jane and I'm working feverishly to get them out on the web site. I'll post a message here just as soon as they're ready.

I also received some very interesting information from another fan who was there:

"I was at the Cayman show and I think that if there was ever going to be a chance of an appearance by Dan that it would have been this weekend. I hope that this FINALLY puts to rest all grandiose envisions of a reunion with Mr. Peek. It simply is not going to happen. I chatted with Dewey on Friday prior to the concert and told him how certain people on the folder were speculating that Dan was going to make an appearance. Dewey laughed and used some of that good grammar of his "well, that ain't gonna' happen". He then informed me as to why they were there. They donated their time to the National Trust of the Cayman Islands. This trust is responsible for conservation, specifically the endangered sea turtles and the Blue Iguana. The proceeds from the show were donated to the National Trust. Certain local establishments kicked in to defray the costs. Bob Soto's Diving provided the guys with free diving trips. The Lone Star Bar & Grill kicked in for the guys hotel rooms. The Seaview I think provided the airfare. Basically this was just a free vacation for a few days for the guys to have a chance to relax. Dewey was there with his oldest daughter and they did a publicity thing at the Turtle Farm by releasing some young turtles back into the sea. This had nothing to do with Dan Peek and believe me, I made several trips walking around seeing if he was there incognito or disguise or something. He was not there. I talked to several people who are Bodden Town locals. I did not run across one individual who ever heard of Dan Peek. I visited several record stores and there are no Peace or Dan Peek CD's in any of them. I talked to the guy who was running the mixing board for the ONLY production company in the Caymans. This guy has been doing this there for twenty years. He says he knows every musician on the Caymans. If they have done a show, then this guy would have done the set up for them. He has never heard of Dan Peek or Peace."

Message: 15234 Posted: Mon Jan 15 15:38:49 2001 By: TerryT
Subject: Re: Cayman/News Brief

Still getting thoughts and feelings together, may have been wrong (hopefully not) about And Forever, but Wind Wave was played, honest. The song list is being held by some very important people at this time. And Forever keeps playing in my head. Some pics, c/o Jane, were sent to Sir Steve Lowry today. WOW.

Message: 15233 Posted: Mon Jan 15 10:10:30 2001 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Cayman/News Brief

Alas, no mention of Mr. Peek. Still a concert to behold I'm sure. DanC.

Message: 15232 Posted: Mon Jan 15 07:13:00 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Cayman/News Brief

EXCELLENT Brief, Sir T! Hope Jane had a Happy One-what a way to spend a natal day!!!!!!!

TkH<----just green

Message: 15231 Posted: Mon Jan 15 06:27:42 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Cayman/News Brief

Terry, thanks so much for the fantastic news brief. It sounds like it was as good or better than we all knew it would be. We look forward to reading more briefs in the future. Welcome back!

SteveL <-- seaweed green with envy

Message: 15230 Posted: Sun Jan 14 23:07:43 2001 By: TerryT
Subject: Re: Cayman/News Brief

Yes, Pete was there! After great shows by 45 CI and Man-go Jam, we were treated by Dewey and Gerry to over an hour and a quarter of acoustic guitars, keyboard, harmonica, and tambourine performance (by Dewey), all through a P.A. system to a happy sold out crowd of around 1,500 starting around 10pm at the Seaview Hotel and Dive Resort. These are all acoustic instruments in their own right, not counting others' hand clapping and some improvised percussion, possibly from tapping bottles and things backstage left (Pete doesn't just tune guitars). Dewey in all black, Gerry in all white, not sandals, but shirts, long pants, and shoes, to a dark starry ocean backdrop with bobbing red sailboat and other craft. Personal favorites or new highlights among others were the Last Unicorn with Gerry on piano and Dewey on guitar, And Forever, Wednesday Morning, Three Roses, and Gerry's solo performance of All My Life with guitar, as the first encore before Horse. The multi-national crowd in a foreign land to me was exceptionally enthusiastic. This seemed to be the biggest event to hit the Island in years, as local rules were bent to accommodate the event.

From the opening strums of Riverside, we could tell it was "different". Mostly standing up, the intensity of the Guys' concentration on each others' playing throughout each song was notable, as it is required when playing acoustically, without the luxury of a full tight band, and they did it remarkably. Deep focus on each other, whether it required leaning over closer to hear and see the other's playing or to tip an ear to the stage monitor, and watching the rythym as well as hearing it. The songs were the same, but came across in a way that they were originally written, and if with imagination, how some of the classic older ones would have sounded to a lucky fly on the wall of someone's house or car in England in the good old days when they were first being worked on and jammed to, as probably with some of the newer ones, too.

This is by no means even a start of the the facts and feelings to be described after everyone gets back, including accurate song list and stage remarks. Just wanted to get this out.

Terry & Jane (birthday thanks, same day as Dewey's)

Message: 15229 Posted: Sun Jan 14 18:41:24 2001 By: jeff brink
Subject: Quiet...

All quiet on the eastern front.

Message: 15228 Posted: Sun Jan 14 12:24:30 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Cayman

I received the following information this afternoon from Alisha Racz who works at the Seaview Hotel and Dive Resort (the place where the concert was held). Here's what she had to say: "Wow, was last night ever fun! America played here at our Oceanside resort, The Seaview Hotel & Dive Center in Grand Cayman. We had approximately 1800 people attend starting off our evening with a BBQ and two local bands to open up; 45 CI and Man-go Jam. Everyone had a super time and the boys put on an amazing show."

Here is a little information about the hotel and dive center (as taken from their information guide):

The Seaview Hotel is Grand Cayman's oldest hotel. It was built in 1947. For over 50 years the Seaview has been offering the same warm friendly service. It has been institutional in establishing Grand Cayman as the world's number one dive destination. We have 15 hotel rooms with modest accommodations. Lets face it with some of the best shore diving right on our door step you will be spending very little time in your room.

Along with our intimate seaside setting we offer the "Naked Fish", Grand Cayman's best new steak and seafood restaurant. We have a salt water pool for dive training as well as the occasional moonlight or afternoon swim. We have live weekly entertainment as well as Grand Cayman's first ever Concert series which began this year with the premier act "America".

Seaview guests can easily walk to town. We are located just 3/10th of a mile from the Georgetown district and 2 miles from the world famous 7 mile beach. The downtown area is full of excellent duty free shopping and some of the other highly recommended restaurants on the island.

If you would like to see some pictures of our resort, they are located at If you have a problem with your browser go directly to and follow the prompts.

Message: 15227 Posted: Sun Jan 14 09:47:02 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Cayman

with all that recording equipment everyone was hiding didn't anyone think to bring the laptop???

Message: 15226 Posted: Sun Jan 14 09:45:24 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: This is just to say

everything is ok here in shakytown. we had a prety good couple of jolts last nite ( they said the first one was 4.3)

Message: 15225 Posted: Sun Jan 14 07:22:37 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: cayman

OK, so last night is over. We want to hear already!! How was it? Is it still going on?LOL!

Message: 15224 Posted: Sat Jan 13 17:33:39 2001 By: msmith
Subject: cayman

i'm thousands of miles away but it must be about time for the concert to start..."feel the fantasy in the air"...

Message: 15223 Posted: Sat Jan 13 15:11:47 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Twas the night

Ok, I've inhaled too many Kilz fumes.....sigh

The children were nestled
All snug in their rooms (BACK HOME)
Their parents were day-dreaming
Of those acoustic Caymen grooves

TkH<--------one down........

Message: 15222 Posted: Sat Jan 13 06:29:33 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Twas the night

The people were all hung out
On the Beach with great care
In hopes that Dan Peek might,
Just might, be there.....

The children were nestled
All snug in their room (BACK HOME)
Ma and Pa were ready to groove.

Message: 15221 Posted: Fri Jan 12 19:05:27 2001 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Jeff and Jeffrey

"12 songs w/12 different artists assisting"
ALSO using 12 string Rickenbackers & Danelectros!!
Great stuff!!

Message: 15220 Posted: Fri Jan 12 19:04:23 2001 By: Bones
Subject: Twas the night

Twas the night before the concert
and everything seemed plain
had the stereo cranked!!!!!
with "From A Moving Train"
(help me out here with the rest)

Message: 15219 Posted: Fri Jan 12 16:30:10 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: re: Cayman

Ah Janice you must have seen me (lol)

Actually, I prefer to be though of a zaftig or ruebenesque. at least those terms SOUND good!

Message: 15218 Posted: Fri Jan 12 15:03:12 2001 By: jeff brink
Subject: re: cayman and to jeff

Sure Robyn I'd appreciate that.


Message: 15217 Posted: Fri Jan 12 14:55:09 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: Cayman

Ok come on Robyn..I'm sure you have an hour glass figure just like I do..(only in my case, all the sand is at the bottom).. :-)

Message: 15216 Posted: Fri Jan 12 13:48:49 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Jeff and Jeffrey

I am thoroughly enjoying both of the latest from the 2 Jeff's Very listenable. Great concept of Foskett's (12 songs each with a different artist assisting). I wonder who Gerry and Dewey would choose to record with if given free reign to choose who (whom?) they would like?

Message: 15215 Posted: Fri Jan 12 13:04:39 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: re: Cayman

In my case NOT A PRETTY THOUGHT, janice eeeekkkkkkk! ( roflmho)

Message: 15214 Posted: Fri Jan 12 12:36:50 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: Cayman

They have arrived and I received a call from the airport but it was so darn noisy that I couldn't make out what they were sounded like "Wow, these banana slings really make a fashion statement and we want to send one to everyone on the chat page". :-)

Message: 15213 Posted: Fri Jan 12 10:05:56 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: re:cayman and to Jeff

Yes Happy Birthday Jane! Everyone there have a great time, take lots of pictures. I don't know if I really WANT to see pictures of some of you in banana slings however.
Jeff I am glad you found something at that site. If I can think of anyplace else, Shall I email you? Robyn

Message: 15212 Posted: Fri Jan 12 09:33:51 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re:cayman

what a great birthday present for Jane..happy birthday Jane....I hope Terry didnt forget his banana sling and soap on a roap...

o ya...I heard those new compact digital recorders fit right into a banana sling....just be careful when you reach down to hit the record button....

Message: 15211 Posted: Fri Jan 12 07:31:48 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: Cayman

Well, I just checked and Terry and Jane have made it to Atlanta (first class!) and about to board their flight to Cayman. I am sure they will check in once they reach their final destination and let us know how it's going. I understand that it is Jane's birthday too..happy birthday Jane! The rest of us will just get back to work..sigh.. :-)

Message: 15210 Posted: Thu Jan 11 19:52:16 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Yahoo! Music America Photos

Jim Nakao made me aware of some cool America photos on the Yahoo! web site. Check them out at the following link: Yahoo! Music America Photos

Message: 15209 Posted: Thu Jan 11 18:34:06 2001 By: kiri
Subject: altoona 7pm show

dear dewey and gerry,
please play "wind wave". thank you.

Message: 15208 Posted: Thu Jan 11 17:15:24 2001 By: jeff brink
Subject: Robyn...

Thank you Robyn. Very close indeed! While not having a complete BUZ SAWYER collection there was a complete Hardback collection for WASH TUBBS an earlier strip by ROY CRANE.

Back when I was a boy living with an Aunt in Cols. OH. I could'nt wait for the daily newspaper to read the comics...especially BUZ SAWYER. For just alittle while each day I WAS BUZ SAWYER!


Message: 15207 Posted: Thu Jan 11 16:05:02 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: to Jeff regarding "Buz Sawyer"

This might not be exactly what you are looking for, but it is a place to start. there is a site for rare or unusual books sort of an e-bay for book people. it is they advertize in the library trade jouranls as being able to locate unusual or hard to find books. I didn't turn up a complete collection of Buz, but they have a search helper that may be able to locate it for you if it exists. Good luck. Robyn

Message: 15206 Posted: Thu Jan 11 15:37:00 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Cayman.

I hear they do WONDERFUL things on Fox concealling (sp?) cameras......maybe you can take a page from their book...

TkH<--------Is that a banana in yer pocket?????!!!!!???

Message: 15205 Posted: Thu Jan 11 15:07:33 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: Cayman.

I would try to sneak in some recording equipment, but I'm not sure where to conceal it, seeing as how all I'm going to be wearing the next four days will be sandals and a banana sling.


Message: 15204 Posted: Thu Jan 11 12:24:21 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: TerryT...

Better late than never, that's what I say.
The more the merrier. We can have 2 kinds of contests.
1) see who we can recognize
2) who shines the most with their fav america versions.
All we need is Ed McMahon to stage it. hahahaha

Message: 15203 Posted: Thu Jan 11 12:06:56 2001 By: TerryT
Subject: Re: Almost Finished / Sure Is Quiet!

Thanks again, America Friends!
Busy packing and a little nervous, in a good way.
Let's see, swim fins in this bag, satellite dish in that one...oops, er uh, I mean flashlight, and Bud Lite.

Good luck on the digitizing, Howie. Can late contributions be accepted? Can it be called a showcase rather than contest?

"...exhausted talking about you know what for you know where!..."
and you know Who

Message: 15202 Posted: Thu Jan 11 12:05:12 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Almost Finished

I hadn't even thought about, Tery. I guess I'll wait until I get the CD from Howie and then let him decide how we do it. I like your suggestions, however. It would be fun to guess who is performing the songs.

Message: 15201 Posted: Thu Jan 11 12:02:26 2001 By: AmericaSL

The ever busy Gerry Beckley has been working with Bobby Woods to come up with a different type of album under the name of the LES DEUX LOVE ORCHESTRA. Bobby wrote many of the songs on the album and he produced all of it. It's a very easy going type of album, good for sitting in front of the fireplace with your loved one. You can go to the following link to read about it and from there you can go to to listen to some sound clips. Oh yeah, Gerry plays the baritone guitars in the Orchestra.


Message: 15200 Posted: Thu Jan 11 10:56:14 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Almost Finished

So. How's this going to work-Steve? How'r you going to put these out? Are you going to make it a "see who you recoginze" kind of thing, or are you just putting them out "straight"......Might kind of be fun to see if we can guess who's doing what.......


Message: 15199 Posted: Thu Jan 11 10:53:11 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Almost Finished / Sure Is Quiet!

Actually we're all secretly planning a collective bootleg video in our collective basements.....Aw, shucks Howard. Now I'm going to have to shoot you.....snicker

TkH<-----------Random Task

Message: 15198 Posted: Thu Jan 11 10:39:57 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Almost Finished / Sure Is Quiet!

hey gang, I have to digitize 2 more songs for the contest and
I'll be able to ship the CD to steve and hopefully he can take it from there. And then we can hear the great talent on this board. All of them are superb. I'm very blown away and surprised by them!
Gerry, Dewey & Dan would be proud.

Hey, sure is quiet here today. Everybody's exhausted talking
about you know what for you know where! SHHH!

Message: 15197 Posted: Thu Jan 11 07:51:47 2001 By: Nina
Subject: Reply to Robyn

I kinda THOUGHT you were...but I wasn't sure!!! :)

Everybody going to the Cayman Islands...have a great time!


Message: 15196 Posted: Thu Jan 11 04:36:29 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Caymans gig/No Show yesterday...)C=

Return and (arrow down) are a little too close to my pinky finger....
Anyway, sorry for the no show last night at chat (I HAD planned on being there, REALLY!!!). I promise to be BETTER soon!!!

TkH<-----needs "IT"

Message: 15195 Posted: Thu Jan 11 04:33:45 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Caymans gig/No Show yesterday...)C=

Couldn't get the overly inflated asking price for the, I'm grounded! (C;

Message: 15194 Posted: Wed Jan 10 19:20:38 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Jeff and Jeffrey

Jeff Larson is a great America fan and very good singer songwriter in his own right. He has been working with Jeffrey Foskett lately and Jeffrey's latest CD features 12 songs (plus 2 bonus tracks) with 12 other artists. One of the songs is Gerry's "Emma" and another is Jeff's "The Word Go". Of course "Emma" was originally released on Van Go Gan and "The Word Go" was released on Room For Summer. Oh yeah, Jeffrey's new CD is appropriately titled Twelve and Twelve. The links below will allow you to download some MP3 soundclips of Jeffrey's versions of "Emma" and "The Word Go". As a bonus I'm also including a link to another Jeff Larson song, "Carol Ann", from Room For Summer which features Gerry on backing vocals.

The Word Go
Carol Ann

The soundclips will be available for 7 days. If you want to read more about Jeff and/or Jeffrey, you can go to the web site.

Message: 15193 Posted: Wed Jan 10 18:09:59 2001 By: jeff brink
Subject: off subject...

...have looked forever...does anyone have an idea where one could find a collection of all the BUZ SAWYER comic strips by ROY CRANE? It was my favorite comic strip growing up. ...Don't know about anyone else but I miss the serious comics like STEVE CANYON, JOE PALOOKA, MARY WORTH, DR. MORGAN M.D. etc.


Message: 15192 Posted: Wed Jan 10 15:54:35 2001 By: Erin
Subject: today

Heard Weather With You at Rite-Aid today. What a great song.
All you lucky ones going to the Cayman show...have a wonderful time.

Erin :o)

Message: 15191 Posted: Wed Jan 10 14:14:02 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Caymans gig.

Hey Beechlady-- does the countdown mean that you are going? Did you sell the kid? ( roflmho)

Message: 15190 Posted: Wed Jan 10 14:03:42 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Reply to Robyn

Nina, I was being facetious! Sometimmes , i am a little too flip for my own good!

Message: 15189 Posted: Wed Jan 10 12:20:03 2001 By: Nina
Subject: Reply to Robyn

Robyn...Regarding the quilts....believe me, I've thought about sewing for the rest of the band! But...I'm afraid the next quilt would have to go to the America's road manager....who has helped me "get in" to see Gerry and Dewey on more than one occasion! He was of great help when I was "wilting" at the OpSail concert last July in New London, CT. Thanks again, Bill!!!!


Message: 15188 Posted: Wed Jan 10 11:06:39 2001 By: Doug
Subject: Re: Caymans gig.

ahhhhhh....the elusive Beech Woman

Message: 15187 Posted: Wed Jan 10 11:00:13 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Caymans gig.

3 days and counting.....


Message: 15186 Posted: Wed Jan 10 00:50:24 2001 By: Spurs
Subject: Caymans gig.

Hello every one,back from holidays and the weather down under has been fearsome,still got a pleasing tan.I wonder if Dan will say hello to the guys whilst this Caymans gig takes shape, if he is in the neighbourhood.When will "our boys" get the nod to start laying down some tracks for a new recording?

Message: 15185 Posted: Tue Jan 09 20:09:38 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re: 007

..."your powers of observation do you credit Mr. take on the day"

Message: 15184 Posted: Tue Jan 09 20:08:00 2001 By: David Stengele
Subject: Best of Dan Peek

I saw that on, there's a new Best of Dan Peek CD, for only $7.97.

Message: 15183 Posted: Tue Jan 09 19:58:04 2001 By: kiri
Subject: addendum

what i meant was:
i know i can get tickets once i get to the venue that night, but they may be all gone by then! and the site doesn't seem to provide a way to get tickets except by physically picking them up. that is what i'm wondering if i'm reading it right or not.

Message: 15182 Posted: Tue Jan 09 19:41:15 2001 By: kiri
Subject: Re: Prairie Meadows/I'm impressed/CSNY

i'm about 99% sure i'm going to that show but prairie meadows website said:
7pm & 9pm/Grandstand Stage/ALL SEATS RESERVED!
Prairie Gold Club Members can receive two free tickets each beginning Monday, January 8 at 9am. All other guests can PICK UP free tickets
beginning Monday, January 15. For more information, and to find out how you can become a Prairie Gold Club member and receive advance tickets, just stop by the Prairie Gold Club Center.

that's all it says. um, i'm not a prairie gold member of anything and um, i don't live anywhere near this prairie center either. well, this sucks! any suggestions - am i just not reading it right and i can get tickets anyway? found a toll free number, guess i'll give that a shot.

Message: 15181 Posted: Tue Jan 09 17:00:16 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Wow! It's My Lucky Day!!

I've just returned from the thrift store where I bought a Chris Christian cassette for 25 cents!!! What a deal. It's called, "15 Best of 15 Years". Guess what? Yeah! The second song from 1987 is "Day Like Today"! A liner note says, "Guest Vocalist on 'Day Like Today': Gerry Beckley (of AMERICA)".

It also says it's "remixed". Since I have a different computer now, I can no longer listen to "Day Like Today" on this site. But, from my recollection, it seems that the version on this site is a bit different than the song on this cassette. The vocals seems to be more of an equal share between Gerry and Chris Christian. I'm hoping one of you can tell us...does Chris Christian or Gerry sing the following lyrics:

You're as constant as time
The shield that I stand behind
And I never doubt
Who you care about

I'm thrilled with this purchase because I really like this song. Gerry's vocals are absolutely WONDERFUL! They're sweet, sweet, sweet!!!

Message: 15180 Posted: Tue Jan 09 15:47:05 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Taping/Beechlady

The names Bond. T.K. Bond.......

TkH<-------Odd Job

Message: 15179 Posted: Tue Jan 09 15:45:53 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Cayman Island Prisons...oops!!!

Ok, so now I've got this really PRETTY PICTURE of SOAP ON A ROPE.....
ROFLMAO! What are those scrubbies on a rope good for???????????

TkH<------Avon Calling

Message: 15178 Posted: Tue Jan 09 15:30:58 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re:Cayman Island Prisons...oops!!!

...LOL..I am glad that you cleared that one up Johnny....

..and thanks Steve..I figured that was the case....I was just wishing that was the reason for the taping/recording restriction..

Message: 15177 Posted: Tue Jan 09 13:28:05 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Cayman Island Prisons...oops!!!

Yow!!! Should have been "NO ONE'S TOUCHIN'" not "someone's touchin'" LOL Boy, what a typo!!!!

Message: 15176 Posted: Tue Jan 09 13:25:41 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: re:taping

Bill, it was the venue that made the recording restriction. I don't believe that Gerry and Dewey will be recording it.

Message: 15175 Posted: Tue Jan 09 13:21:18 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Cayman Island Prisons

Yeah Howie, we'd be singing:

Someone told me you got to be free
Someone told me to stand in the rear

Okay, I'll stand in the rear but someone's touchin' this rat's ass...if I can help it!!!

JOY<-------Covering his rear.

Message: 15174 Posted: Tue Jan 09 13:13:20 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Cayman Island Prisons

It's the jail gang shower that has me worried. Heard they don't sell soap-on-rope down there. I'm not gonna pick up that bar of soap off the shower floor. No way! Not me!!!

Message: 15173 Posted: Tue Jan 09 12:15:06 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Taping/Beechlady

Tery, and while you're at soon as you finishing taping should have a hired secret service agent awaiting by the dock with a super fast speedy racing boat ready to wisk off the tape back to the USA to us.

God help us if the guys are reading this. They'll lock us all up.
Not too bad huh. All of us in jail singing America songs. What a sight that would be. But then there would be nobody to post 500 messages a day to keep Steve L's website going and they'll have to shut it down, etc. I'd better shut up........................

Message: 15172 Posted: Tue Jan 09 12:00:27 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Cayman Island Prisons

Well, I'll tell you one thing.........If the jail serves those drinks with little umbrellas, on the beach, I'll DO IT MYSELF! I'll go out and buy the damn USB-digicam and bring the son's iBook!!!!! I say "its WORTH IT"!!!! Besides, my daughter can cook now......but damn, the husband'll have to learn to do the wash....(rofl)


Message: 15171 Posted: Tue Jan 09 11:55:18 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re:taping

"I received word that the contract for the Cayman Island show does not allow any recordings." you know if this is a condition that America asked for or the venue?....could it be possible that America could be recording it themselves?...just a wishful thought on my part.

Message: 15170 Posted: Tue Jan 09 11:54:56 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Taping By Kevin

I thought I'd better mention that I'm just kidding about Kevin and the recording. But I think most of you know I am. Like Joe B, I forgot to "wink".

(Kevin, bail shouldn't be too much.)

Message: 15169 Posted: Tue Jan 09 11:54:24 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Quilt?

I would bet Willie and his lovely bride would love one, or Woodz and his wife and new baby? OR perhaps "the new kid", Brad could use one to feel loved???? Just a thought >;}

Message: 15168 Posted: Tue Jan 09 11:24:15 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Prairie Meadows/I'm impressed/CSNY

I have a cyber friend who lives in Iowa and the January 18th concert at Prairie Meadows is heavily being promoted by the local radio station WHO. How do I know, because he listens to that rock station day in and day out. Too bad he has to teach on that night.

I got him started on listening to America again too. He loves CSNY,
and his wife was with him listening to the promos with songs, etc.
And said, is this CSNY, can't be, it sounds much better than the
music you always listen to!!! GO AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Message: 15167 Posted: Tue Jan 09 11:16:07 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Quilt?

Nina, Quilt #3 for member #3? "You go, girl!"

Message: 15166 Posted: Tue Jan 09 11:08:45 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Taping

I make a motion that Kevin strap a tape recorder to his "boot" or "leg". After all, if he's caught, he wouldn't "give a rat's ass"!

Go Kevin Go!!!

Message: 15165 Posted: Tue Jan 09 10:58:09 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Taping

While we don't wish for anyone to get into trouble with the authorities for taping the concert, just imagine the song writing inspiration possiblities for Gerry and Dewey sitting in a 6 x 10 rat infested foreign cell. Album could called "Honest, I didn't do it."

Just kiddin'

Message: 15164 Posted: Tue Jan 09 10:14:23 2001 By: Nina
Subject: Cayman Islands, the show, this and that!

Hi all! I DIDN'T put my name in for the free trip to the islands, because I was afraid I'd WIN! Then, what would this small town girl have done?!?! I think the contest is wonderful...wish we could ALL go!!! Maybe someday we'll all be in ONE place enjoying our favorite band! Wouldn't that be something? IN THE MEANTIME, I'd settle for an EAST COAST FAN GATHERING? Has there ever been one...or is it always WEST COAST? There are quite a few colleges out here in Massachusetts,...maybe I can get them to book "America", then I'd be close enough to organize a gathering!!!! (I wouldn't even know how to begin.)

By the way, who thinks I need to start working on Quilt #3?


Message: 15163 Posted: Tue Jan 09 10:06:26 2001 By: Pete
Subject: Re: Taping

I agree Howie, Come on America fans, lets tell them to create a video or tape while there down there on the islands. Would be nice.

Message: 15162 Posted: Tue Jan 09 10:03:56 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Cayman Show, great timing

The weather here has turned decidedly cold and rainy. The weather in the Caymans is hovering in the low 80's. To all who are going, have a wonderful time! I hope PICTURES are permitted!

Message: 15161 Posted: Tue Jan 09 09:28:50 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: The Caymans and The Show

From what I've read, The Cayman Islands are under British rule. I also found this but don't know how accurate it is. For those of you who are going, read this:

"Proof of citizenship and a photo ID are required for US and Canadian visitors: a passport, driver's license, birth certificate together with a return ticket. Passport and return ticket are required for all other visitors."

Man, that sounds a bit strict on US and Canadian visitors. As I said, I don't know if that's still required. You guys should check into it if you haven't already.

As much as I'd love to see and hear a video of the show, it sounds like it's a contractual thing vs. a governmental one. It may be both; I'm merely assuming.

After all, we don't want this:

I could live in the walls of a prison
Where the warm summer winds would never blow
Then again, think of what I'd be missing
And how some do it I'll never know

(Gerry's "Coastline")

Message: 15160 Posted: Tue Jan 09 09:27:52 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Taping

There's a bunch of groups that give/sell to their fans, rare
concerts or songs. What's the groups name that gave their fans a copy
of their cover version of Elvis Presley's Can't Stop Loving You or something like that. AWWW COME ON!!!!!

Maybe if we keep talking/posting (more like bugging them) about it they will :0)

Message: 15159 Posted: Tue Jan 09 08:08:15 2001 By: Pete
Subject: Taping America

Hey, maybe America might here this. Hint, Maybe they could tape the unplugged concert for us.

Message: 15158 Posted: Tue Jan 09 08:01:19 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: Taping Cayman show.

I don't mind breaking the law in the United States. But I think the Cayman Islands are like a whole different country, they're probably not even part of the USA, and I'd be reluctant to break any copyright laws on foreign soil. Might end up in one of them foreign jails. And I can't even speak a foreign language.


Message: 15157 Posted: Tue Jan 09 05:11:30 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Allowed to tape the show?

Yes, but that (contract for non-tapement)just meant for us "civilians"........!?!?!?!?!...... (((((((C=

TkH<-------"Please Please Tell Me Now......"

Message: 15156 Posted: Mon Jan 08 21:22:08 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Human Nature Studio?

I wonder if Gerry and Dewey could/would record an acoustic performance CD in Gerry's studio and sell it through "Heart Times Coffee Cup"? Would it be a violation of their contract with Oxygen? If not, I sure hope they would consider doing it. It would be so incredible!!!

Message: 15155 Posted: Mon Jan 08 21:10:52 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Cayman Island Show Contract

): ): ): ): ): ): ): ): ):

Message: 15154 Posted: Mon Jan 08 21:01:33 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Cayman Island show.

I received word that the contract for the Cayman Island show does not allow any recordings. Bummer! I guess we'll have to rely on the written report of the concert.

Message: 15153 Posted: Mon Jan 08 20:59:54 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Allowed to tape the show?

Like Nike says.................
Just do it (meaning tape the show)

Message: 15152 Posted: Mon Jan 08 20:09:52 2001 By: Erin
Subject: Re: LA

I LOVE Southern California. My sister lived in Redondo Beach for about three months. I thought she was crazy to come back to Reno. Would've been a place for me to stay for all those So Cal America shows. Palm trees and the ocean...what more could you ask for?? (Just my opinion!)
hope everyone is having a fantastic night!

Erin :o)

Message: 15151 Posted: Mon Jan 08 19:47:15 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: LA

That's ok Joe, guess I didn't see you wink.

Message: 15150 Posted: Mon Jan 08 19:42:40 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Cayman Island show.

Kevin, you may be right but if they DO allow it to be taped........???
Being on the beach, why not?

Count Eddy and me as takers! Do I hear any others?

Message: 15149 Posted: Mon Jan 08 19:37:10 2001 By: Joe Knight
Subject: LA

I am sorry Robyn. I was just teasing...I am sure that LA is is just like every other American city, most of it has to be really nice...............Joe

Message: 15148 Posted: Mon Jan 08 19:36:01 2001 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Cayman Island show.

maybe if we get a list going of people willing to buy the video, they might do it, just a thought...................

Message: 15147 Posted: Mon Jan 08 19:34:56 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Cayman Island show.

Does anyone know of official plans to tape this show? That would be nice to know.

Message: 15146 Posted: Mon Jan 08 19:18:26 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: Cayman Island show.

I doubt if we would be allowed to tape the show.


Message: 15145 Posted: Mon Jan 08 19:09:59 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Dan's bio, a comment

Ah, then as the saying goes, Beechlady, you didn't do them right ( roflmho)

Message: 15144 Posted: Mon Jan 08 19:06:38 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Dan's bio, a comment

>>If you can remember the 70's think about it.
Yeah, well unfortunatly I remember it TOO well.


Message: 15143 Posted: Mon Jan 08 16:35:39 2001 By: mBluLight
Subject: Re: Regarding The Caymans, I Sure Wish...

i will not be at the cayman's show, hence to therefore and so than no videotaping by me will be done.

as for the switchfoot thing, i'm very excited for the guys, but haven't talked to them directly about it.

and i hope everyone who went to the new years show had a blast.



Message: 15142 Posted: Mon Jan 08 15:31:31 2001 By: Nanse
Subject: mary coppin

just fyi, our friend leakycanoe is so right when it comes to mary coppin. i am a friend of hers and she would definetly appeal to anyone that loves america. i sure wish anyone in the la area could come and see her perform and then us internet friends could meet in lancaster. give her a try you won't be sorry. take care,,,,,nanse

Message: 15141 Posted: Mon Jan 08 14:16:54 2001 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Dan's bio, a comment

Where does a muskrat call home???? Just wonderin'.DanC.

Message: 15140 Posted: Mon Jan 08 13:27:11 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: And more...

Howard's offer is very, very generous. Thanks Howie!!!

Of course, we would need to reimburse Howard for the cost of the cassette and postage. Howard donating his time is incredible!

With the taping perhaps being done by Gordon or mB, that would take the pressure off of those who we know are going. Gordon and mB, you can thank me later. (0:

Message: 15139 Posted: Mon Jan 08 13:26:17 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re: one in a million

..thank you Steve!!!!...I wish I could have heard "old man Took"...

Message: 15138 Posted: Mon Jan 08 13:16:55 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Regarding The Caymans, I Sure Wish...

Sure wish Gordon of Heart Times Coffee Cup or mB could videotape the Caymans performance and sell us a copy. I'm positive there are enough of us who would buy the video to make it worthwhile. It might even be enough to pay Gordon's or mB's expenses. I'd easily drop a 20 for it, easily!!!

Message: 15137 Posted: Mon Jan 08 11:19:32 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: One in a Million

ah, Steve. You are truly amazing.

Message: 15136 Posted: Mon Jan 08 10:19:52 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: One in a Million

FYI: Here's a link to Rick Wahlgren's review of the Vancouver Symphony concert back in 1997.

Message: 15135 Posted: Mon Jan 08 10:07:36 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: off subject:More Mary Coppin

This is sorta LA scene stuff not to far off subject:

My apologies againbut I cant get enough of this gals music.Mary Coppin.if you are in Southern California on January 20th Mary will be playing at the Lancaster Performing Arts Center at 8PM..she will be playing with a full band and will be the headliner act..check out details on her web page. here is what the performing arts web site had to say about Mary:

Mary Coppin is a multiple award-winning contemporary singer/songwriter with an amazing voice and enchanting songs. She's performed at music festivals throughout the country and was showcased at Austin's prestigious South by Southwest.
Film composer Chris Boardman said "Mary Coppin's voice has a magical quality, somewhere between Natalie Merchant and The Kinleys, that cuts through the ordinary and can literally hust a noisy club. Her pop/rock/folk songs take you on a journey from evocative questions to joyful answers."
Opening for Ms. Coppin is local singer/songwriter Walker Gibson.

Message: 15134 Posted: Mon Jan 08 09:47:47 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Dan's bio, a comment

Yes, Beechlady, Dan's comment reflected what he saw, but as a native Angeleno, I had to make a comment, maybe provide some balance. Dan's view of LA is one of a time when things were a bit looser. If you can remember the 70's think about it. Glitter rock, disco, free flowing drugs. Things are a bit different now. LA is not exactly Sodom or Gomorrah. I too will climb off my soapbox now. Thanks! Robyn

Message: 15133 Posted: Mon Jan 08 09:47:10 2001 By: jeff brink
Subject: California...

All of the cities and towns I've lived in or visited had their high and low points. Anyway, I was in Pt. Hueneme Calif. in 1975 for a few months and I have to say I thought the Pacific Ocean was beautiful. To my regret I did'nt see much of the Los Angeles area.

I've mentioned this before...I really like the GO MAN GO version of NOW SUE.


Message: 15132 Posted: Mon Jan 08 08:56:00 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: One in a Million

I was lucky enough to be at the concert in Vancouver with the Vancouver Symphony a couple of years back. It really was one in a million. What a sound having a full orchestra behind them. Sat dead center, 10th row. Caught Gerry's pick. Rick W. posted a great review of it on his site. Don't know if it still available. Cayman show will be equally as special i am sure.

Message: 15131 Posted: Mon Jan 08 07:42:43 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: comment

Just one more thing..(honest)..I actually live south of Atlanta because of what I dislike about LA..crowds, traffic..I am out in the country. Fortunately for me, the 2 things I love most in life are the mountains and the beach, and Calif has both. I hope to divide my time between both in my "next phase"..if it is too crowded when I return then it is Montana, Wyoming or Idaho. Being from LA does not mean you are a city slicker..I am far from a slick's just that there's no place like home.

Message: 15130 Posted: Mon Jan 08 07:22:16 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Dan's bio, a comment

Oh, yeah and then there's my MOM who was ADAMENT that her daughter wasn't going to risk life and limb JUST to help televise a STUPID sporting event like BASEBALL......(rofl).....Um, Ok......

TkH<------it's just a flesh wound, really....

Message: 15129 Posted: Mon Jan 08 07:17:59 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Dan's bio, a comment

I think Dan was just writing about HIS view of what HE doesn't mean it IS that way..(I happen to LOVE parts of L.A.!)...You should have lived in Detroit! WOW, the comments I get (still!) about working down there.....whew. Everyone from my home town in outstate Michigan thought I packed a luger and dealt drugs when I had my Tiger Stadium gig.....BUT, you just have to persuade those people to take another HARD look at the place from a first person perspective! When friends O'mine would show up, I'd take them around to all the great spots. Those who wouldn't come, I did my best to "respectfully agree to DISagree with them" and voiced my rebuttal........I'm sure the same things could be said about Baltimore, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, D.C., wanted to make sure I didn't miss


Message: 15128 Posted: Mon Jan 08 06:48:44 2001 By: Mike B
Subject: re: comment - Home is were the Heart is

I couldn't agree more - Home is where the Heart is. I lived and worked on the outskirts of L.A. County for two years, far away from the Hollywood scene. Loved the people, the sun, the mild winter, the beaches/ocean, and the happening city life. If your heart is in the big city L.A. is great. I still love visiting the area for it's many benefits.

Friends who grew up in L.A. couldn't understand why I wanted to come back to Utah after two years. Their hearts were in L.A. My heart is into wide-open wild spaces with fishing, camping, skiing, wildlife, and plenty of backcountry activities. I believe Dan Peek's heart is into small town U.S.A, places that could drive many a good, honest, hardworking Southern Californian crazy.

Congratulations TT on winning the trip to Grand Cayman. I sure do envy you and Kevin. But, I know I can come back here next week to experience a little of what you guys get to see in the flesh.

M. E. Bunn

Message: 15127 Posted: Mon Jan 08 06:24:41 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: My apology/Congrats to Lucky Stiffs/CD Offer

Hi everyone,
First of all I like to apologize for not getting back to everyone
who sent tapes of songs they created for the contest. For the past
1-2 months, it's been absolutely crazy. The kids have been non stop sick with bronchitis, pneumonia, unbelieveable viruses and beside
we drop the kids off during the week at our inlaws to sleep over
and don't get home til 10P. But I will work on them in the next
2 weeks and that's a promise since it's been quiet. Last 2 weeks,
our hot water heater went and our heating system has making a noise
that shook the house, so we had to sleep at my inlaws for about 4 nights, because these incompetent idiots couldn't find the problem.
So pack up the cats, kids, wife and to grandma's house we go.

Have alot of catching up to do on this board. Congrats to those lucky stiff winners to the Cayman Islands. I'm jealous, but very excited for all of you.

Offer;-) if somebody records the Cayman concert, I'll transfer it and make CD's for everybody!!!

Happy New Years to everyone, HL

If somebody records

Message: 15126 Posted: Mon Jan 08 02:14:38 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: comment

Having been born and raised in LA, thanks Robyn. The only reason I am here in Atlanta is because of a job transfer. In a couple of years I am looking to find my way "home" to LA. Home is where the heart is. There is good and bad in every city..the best way to judge is to go there yourself and check it out. When I go to a new city I try to go where the locals go, to get a real flavor of the city. Many folks think Hawaii is over-rated. That is because most think that Honolulu or Waikiki is Hawaii. There is so much more..get in a jeep, take a hike..go exploring. LA is the my soapbox..have a great day! :-)

Message: 15125 Posted: Sun Jan 07 22:35:29 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: dan's bio

WW, if it should happen, Inspectors Trost and Sutton will be on the trail. Personally, I don't think there will be any "Close Encounter Of The Third Kind". Or should I say, third member kind. If I'm wrong, I'll eat an America cap. Pass the ketchup, please.

Message: 15124 Posted: Sun Jan 07 20:51:58 2001 By: msmith
Subject: dan's bio

i'm printing out dan's bio and sticking it in a three ring binder. i was a few episodes behind and got caught up today. pick up on a comment made by tt before he won the cayman tickets even though it will never happen...what if there's more to dan's comment at the end of his last episode "see you again on january 13, 2001" than meets the eye...and we weren't there to see it?

Message: 15123 Posted: Sun Jan 07 20:20:39 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: comment

Gee, I love you too Joe! My point is that "the Industry" is not the only thing going in LA ( or, if you will "the only game in town") LA bashing is a popular sport. To make generalizations such as the ones you and Dan have made are rather mean-spirited toward those of us who choose to make our home here. Thanks for your last comment. Anytime you'd care to visit and see the place for yourself, I'd be happy to show you around

Message: 15122 Posted: Sun Jan 07 20:00:52 2001 By: Joe Knight
Subject: comment

I have never been to LA but everyone I know who has been says it is a Sewer..................Joe

Message: 15121 Posted: Sun Jan 07 19:58:49 2001 By: Joe Knight
Subject: RE: Dans comment

I think Dan was talking about the Seamy side of the Rock and Roll culture. Joe

Message: 15120 Posted: Sun Jan 07 15:52:51 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Dan's bio, a comment

Re-reading Dan's current installment of his bio, I just had to make one small comment. Dan said some pretty disparraging things about my home town. I am afraid Dan only saw one side of LA. Hollywood ( particularly Hollywood in the 70's) is NOT a representation of all of Los Angeles. Most people who live here do not hang out in the all-together with famous people. Mostly, we are average joe's working and raising a family. Sure the weather is fabulous and there are beaches, mountains and deserts within a few hours drive of the place. But it's not all glamour and glitz filled with shallow people. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Dan, the next time you're in town, I'd be happy to show you another side of my hometown!

Message: 15119 Posted: Sun Jan 07 14:48:42 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Time-Life Music CDs and America

Thanks for all the info, Johnny!

Message: 15118 Posted: Sun Jan 07 11:23:42 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Time-Life Music CDs and America

Here are the CDs and the America songs that are included in Time-Life Music's offer in their "Winter 2001" catalog:

"Smooth 70's" includes "Sister Golden Hair"
"AM Gold: The 1970s" includes "Tin Man" and "Sister Golden Hair"
"Sounds of the Seventies 1972" includes "A Horse With No Name"
"Sounds of the Seventies 1972 Take II" includes "Ventura Highway"
"Sounds of the Seventies 1974 Take II" includes "Tin Man"
"Sounds of the Seventies 1975" includes "Sister Golden Hair"
"Singers And Songwriters 1972-1973" includes "A Horse With No Name"
"Singers and Songwriters 1974-1975" includes "Sister Golden Hair"
"Singers and Songwriters 1980-1982" includes "You Can Do Magic"
"Singers and Songwriters The Early '70s" includes "Ventura Highway"
"Rock Hits of the '80s: 36 All Time Favorites" includes "YCD Magic"

Wow! I bet "Lonely People" and "I Need You" are in there somewhere but simply not listed.

In the "Highway" listing, here are Dan's songs that are mentioned: Lonely People, Everyone I Meet Is From California, Don't Cross The River, Woman Tonight, Today's The Day, Rainy Day, Saturn Nights, and It's Life.

Message: 15117 Posted: Sat Jan 06 22:19:31 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Time-Life Music and "Highway"

Yesterday in the mail, I received Time-Life Music's "Winter 2001" catalogue. One of the features is "Highway". Here is the ad with its slight error regarding Sir George, "the author" :

"America: 'Highway'--30 Years of America. Finally, a box set covering the entire career of this legendary trio famous for its tight vocal harmonies, masterful songwritings, and terrific guitar playing. This comprehensive collector's edition includes all of your favorites by America, plus some rare unreleased tracks, and a terrific booklet by former Beatles producer Sir George Martin, who went on to produce six of America's greatest albums. The history of America in the making."

Throughout the catalogue, America's songs are included in numerous CD offerings such as "AM Gold: The 1970s" and "Singers And Songwriters: The Early 70s". I'll list them all tomorrow.

By the way, the picture in the catalogue representing "Highway" isn't the front of the box set. Instead, it's the next page of the booklet...the green cactus and the great-looking America logo. It looks good either way!

Message: 15116 Posted: Sat Jan 06 20:22:29 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Cayman Islands.

Kevin, I look forward to the photos that you'll be sending. No, I won't be there although I really wanted to be. I simply couldn't work out the logistics. I'm sure those of you who are there will have a great time and be treated to a show like no other!

Message: 15115 Posted: Sat Jan 06 18:32:29 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re: and the winner is

...congratulations Terry!!!........I bet you cant wait....enjoy!!!
"White capped clouds
Dance in the sunlight
Purple fishes watch
And show you some of their delight
The weather's fine
And everything's all right
So let's go down to the water tonight
Let's go down to the water tonight"

Message: 15114 Posted: Sat Jan 06 16:44:48 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: Cayman Islands.

Once again, Steve's dedication to this site and the fans (great ones like Janice who donated the tickets) of America's music is overwhelming. I'm lucky enough to be attending the Cayman Island show. I hope Steve will be there, and I look forward to meeting Terry and Jane and anyone else who will be down there. I'll bring lots of film and will send them to Steve to post.


Oh, and I really look forward to those $15 Cayman Island beers.

Message: 15113 Posted: Sat Jan 06 15:59:19 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: New Longer Chat hours

I got a note from Beechlady with a great idea--longer chat hours! so (for those of you on the east coast who need a chat fix AND beauty sleep) the Wednesday Night Chats will begin at 8 pm eastern ( that's 5 pm Pacific, you people in the central Mountain zone figure it out on your own ;) ) I will still be getting into the room between 6:30 and 7, heck, I'm still at work at 5 pm! Everyone is welcome to come in at any time!

Also-- this week will will be listening to Human Nature

See you there!

Message: 15112 Posted: Sat Jan 06 13:20:47 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: And The Winner Is...

Congratulations Terry!!!! Am sure you will enjoy. Can't wait for the feedback. If you need to borrow my mini-cd recorder -let me know!

Message: 15111 Posted: Sat Jan 06 07:40:42 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Taping of the Cayman Islands gig

You know guys,,,,,,,,,if you all think REALLY REALLY HARD and project all that energy into the ethers, YOU JUST NEVER KNOW!!!!!!!!!?!!!!!

TkH<----lots of ether

Message: 15110 Posted: Sat Jan 06 07:29:46 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Cayman Ticket Info

For the benefit of Terry and anyone else who is going to the Cayman gig (I have heard that others from the chat folder might be there), here's some concert/ticket information. The concert will be performed at the Seaview Hotel & Dive Center and Erin Edwards from Morey Management will be staying there. If you have problems getting tickets from the tourism board (although no problem is expected), look her up and she'll see that you get some. It's my understanding that the beach setting for the concert is actually some coral cliffs overlooking the ocean rather than a sandy beach. Should be terrific.

Once again, congrats to Terry and Jane and we look forward to hearing all about it.

Message: 15109 Posted: Sat Jan 06 07:20:33 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: And The Winner Is...

Congratulations, Mr. T!
One hint on the hat cam........DON'T SHAVE. Makes for a nicer fit in the chin strap!!!

TkH<--------needs a fitting....

Message: 15108 Posted: Sat Jan 06 05:39:58 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: And the Winner Is..

Wow..what an acceptance speech! Now, if you were accepting an emmy they'd have yanked you off the stage 1/2 way thru your speal! Lol..Congrats Terry and are being sealed and stamped as I write this. Yes..I feel certain you will see some familiar faces there, and again, thanks to all that entered and we will definitely do this again! Have a great weekend! :-) Janice

Message: 15107 Posted: Fri Jan 05 22:58:31 2001 By: TerryT
Subject: Re: And The Winner Is...

So I'm up late...

Just got a LETTER. Thank You Janice and Steve!!! Living in Floriduh, I'm impressed with the speed of this decision before MIDNIGHT, unless it was getting late for Steve's nine year old (tell him the check's in the mail).

No FOOLIN'? Jane and I HEREby graciously accept this awesome task with mucho gratitude and, respectfully, to the others who entered, knowing YOU COULD'VE BEEN THE ONE, we won't let you down! This is MY AMERICAN DREAM, and it's going to be HARD TO SLEEP. HOPE we make that JET BOY BLUE standby INTERNATIONAL flight in the SHELTERING SKY over THE BORDER through the PORTS-OF-CALL to HOT TOWN. OLOOLOLO, TODAY'S THE DAY, and it's gonna be a LOVELY NIGHT at this ONE IN A MILLION event DOWN TO THE WATER, CLOSE TO THE WIND, on the COASTLINE with such good COMPANY. This OLD MAN TOOK ANOTHER TRY and now he's ONLY A KID AT HEART.

Bones, I'll try that helmet HAT TRICK with my camcorder if the chin strap doesn't cause DONKEY JAW. The INSPECTOR MILLS outfit should well conceal it. Cameras, too.

Alan, I have a pocket recorder but it's not STEREO, and even if it's a RAINY DAY, we'll be the LAST TWO TO DANCE TILL THE SUN COMES UP AGAIN, because WE GOT ALL NIGHT. No laptop (yet), so maybe we'll borrow one, find a cyber cafe, or phone one of yuz from a nearby coconut telegraph and leave it off the hook...conference call? I've got this feeling we're not gonna be the only ones outa this bunch that'll be there, anyway.

Jeff and BeechcraftLady, I feel like I'm flying already, but no HANGOVER, I promise.

Dewey, Gerry, and (ARE YOU THERE?), we'll be GLAD TO SEE YOU all if YOU decide on ANOTHER TRY. We'll behave, honest.

Again, loving thanks to Janice, everyone ALL AROUND this folder, and especially to Sirs Dewey, Gerry, and The Man Behind The Curtain, Sir Steve Lowry!


Terry & Jane

Message: 15106 Posted: Fri Jan 05 21:15:52 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: And The Winner Is...

Alright!!!!! Double T!!! I'm really happy for you! You know I was rooting for you. It just goes to prove that nice guys do finish first sometimes. Congrats to my "First America Album Photo Cover Theory Pal"!!! I know you will have a wonderful time. Enjoy!!!

Message: 15105 Posted: Fri Jan 05 19:36:37 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: And The Winner Is...

... Terry Trost! Congratulations Terry. Make sure you take lots of pictures and if they let you take a video camera or tape recorder, go for it. For those of you who don't know Terry, you can see a few photos of him on the America Fans Faces web page.

Sorry to those of you who didn't win. But Janice says the next time she has some extra buddy passes we'll do it again. Thanks again Janice for being so willing to share!

Message: 15104 Posted: Fri Jan 05 19:12:21 2001 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Emma

when you give it a good listen (12x12), let me know how you like it!
As far as the Cayman Island music video(or CD), count me in on buying it, I would pay ANY price to see (hear) that!

Message: 15103 Posted: Fri Jan 05 19:00:43 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: One in a Million

My personal "One In A Million" concert was in August 1983 at a place called HOLIDAY HOUSE, in Monroeville Pennsylvania. (Somewhat close to Pittsburgh). I drove all night with my friend to get there on time. It was a supper club type of venue, and I ended up sitting right in front of the stage !! I could have touched a microphone without even fully stretching my arm. This was during the "Your Move" tour, and I had the priviledge of hearing "The Border" and "Your Move" performed live. Between sets (there were two), we sneaked backstage and met Dewey and Gerry. Holy ****was I ever shaking in my shoes !! I tried to act as normal as possible, and I remember asking Gerry about his masterpiece Sgt. Darkness. My friend took a picture of me between Gerry and Dewey. Then I went back to my table for the second set, and fainted! It wasn't a huge drama, I just slumped forward and became aware of my surroundings sometime during the middle of that second set. (NO, THERE WERE NO INTOXICANTS INVOLVED, LOL). I am still planning on sending Steve that very famous photo from that night, taken just minutes before I "lost it". A special thank you to Dewey and Gerry for giving me the summer of a lifetime.


Message: 15102 Posted: Fri Jan 05 17:22:02 2001 By: Bones
Subject: The deal of a life time

Buy a XXL America T-shirt and receive a free Cayman Island music video. Sounds like a great deal to me.

Message: 15101 Posted: Fri Jan 05 16:42:55 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: The Contestants

And whoever wins take a video camera! ( Just kidding and hoping that it will be taped and made available)

Message: 15100 Posted: Fri Jan 05 16:20:33 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: The Contestants

Here's a list of the people who have entered the contest for the Buddy Passes to the Cayman Island gig. The drawing will be held a little later tonight. Good luck to all of you!

G Girl

Message: 15099 Posted: Fri Jan 05 16:19:21 2001 By: Erin
Subject: Re: One in a Million

The "One in a Million" show that stands out in my mind was last spring at the Nugget when Gerry did All My Life. That was amazing.

Erin :o)

Message: 15098 Posted: Fri Jan 05 16:16:55 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Taping of the Cayman Islands gig

Alan, I have no idea if the show will be taped. I certainly hope so!

Message: 15097 Posted: Fri Jan 05 16:15:53 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Salt Lake concert

I don't know any particulars about the SLC concert but I suspect that it is NOT part of a baseball game. America played at Franklin Covey field a couple of years ago as part of an all day event (I don't remember the name of the event - it was some thing that was sponsored by FM-100) and I suspect it's a similar thing this year. As soon as I know more details I'll post them. One thing is for certain, I'll be there.

Message: 15096 Posted: Fri Jan 05 15:48:00 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: One in a Million

The Cayman Island gig will be a "One in a Million" show for sure.....other shows that I wish I could have attended were the full orchestra shows......most recently I beleive in Canada......was it 97 or 98?? Any other "One in a Million" Shows that you guys can think of?

(I am listening to Cornwall Blank right now....the explination of the song in the box set gave me a much better understanding of the be on top of the world in your early 20's and trying to understand it all.....keep it simple and remember what is! sorry caught up in the of Deweys best...)

Message: 15095 Posted: Fri Jan 05 15:22:39 2001 By: Alan
Subject: Taping of the Cayman Islands gig

Bones wrote: << I wonder if Mr. Beckley & Mr. Bunnell wouldn't mind if the Cayman gig video taped. >>

I was hoping it would be taped commercially and made available to all of us dedicated fans who just aren't capable of attending. I for one would pay good money for a video of an unplugged America show (especially if Dan were to surprise us and show up, hop up on the stage and play a couple of tunes with Dewey and Gerry). Even with no Dan, an unplugged show is very rare. This may in fact be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and it just kills me to think that I am going to miss out entirely. Even if a lot of pictures are taken and posted on this wonderful web site, that doesn't bring the MUSIC to us. I'm guessing with no official announcement by now regarding the taping of the show that it probably won't happen. Steve, would you say that's a safe assumption?

Message: 15094 Posted: Fri Jan 05 14:47:24 2001 By: Alan
Subject: Taping of the Cayman Islands gig

Bones wrote: << I wonder if Mr. Beckley & Mr. Bunnell wouldn't mind if the Cayman gig video taped. >>

I was hoping it would be taped commercially and made available to all of us dedicated fans who just aren't capable of attending. I for one would pay good money for a video of an unplugged America show (especially if Dan were to surprise us and show up, hop up on the stage and play a couple of tunes with Dewey and Gerry). Even with no Dan, an unplugged show is very rare. This may in fact be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and it just kills me to think that I am going to miss out entirely. Even if a lot of pictures are taken and posted on this wonderful web site, that doesn't bring the MUSIC to us. I'm guessing with no official announcement by now regarding the taping of the show that it probably won't happen. Steve, would you say that's a safe assumption?

Message: 15093 Posted: Fri Jan 05 14:01:11 2001 By: red oak
Subject: Salt Lake concert

Steve, is the June 16 America concert on the day of a baseball game or not? Also, did anyone go to the 3 Dog Night/America shindig in Mt Pleasant, Michigan on Dec 27?

Message: 15092 Posted: Fri Jan 05 12:23:26 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Emma

Along with Goodbye Highway, Emma is my favorite on VGG. I too think this would be a great tune live. Have Gerry and Dewey ever considered doing any of Gerry's solo stuff in concert?

Interesting you mentioned Jeff Foskett's 12 & 12. I ordered it about a month ago from Amazon and just got a call this morning from my local Purilator that they have a package for me. I'm sure this is it. Can't wait to give it a listen.

Message: 15091 Posted: Fri Jan 05 10:23:40 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: re: Flying

One more word about TWA Flight 800: My sister, Eva, told me that a lot of TWA as well as other commercial airlines personnel, believe that the airplane was downed by a missile either from the ground via a terrorist surface-to-air or from friendly fire from a nearby military plane that was practicing military maneeuvers and that the government is concealing the truth. I, personally, don't know what to believe but pilots from private and other commercial airlines say they definitely saw a missile hit the plane. The government's finding, I believe, was not conclusive. They said it probably was an electrical short in the wiring. Supporting the terrorist missile theory, Eva said there was a lot of talk that Flight 800 to Paris and Rome was mistaken for her flight to Tel Aviv since it was about an hour late for take off. The Tel Aviv flight departed shortly after Flight 800.

Here's a tip if you're ever grabbed as a hostage as told to me by Eva (who is in her 32nd year of flight attending!!!!). Merely fake a faint. Hopefully, the person will grab someone else. Let's hope this fake fainting doesn't continue down the line. Otherwise, everyone's in big trouble! LOL

Message: 15090 Posted: Fri Jan 05 09:04:05 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: Flying

I'm with ya's..gimme a Winnebago anytime!! Faster does not mean better. Actually, as I look back on my "worldly" travels probably my favorite trip was that taken across the country at the tender age of 19 in a Greyhound bus on an Ameripass! 30 days to go anywhere I wanted..just got my ticket punched and jumped on in true "gypsy-spririt" style! Those were the days. sigh.

Message: 15089 Posted: Fri Jan 05 07:36:08 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re:

I'm right there with you Mr. Brink!!!! I have hung out of planes at 5000 feet (for an stunt/aerobatic team special that my husbands company was doing a "special" for) with a 50 pound camera on my shoulder! I thought it was a RIOT (even when we knocked wing tips with the other guy)!!!! Now in commercial jets.....ugh. Yeah, I fly (hey it's a necessity these days) BUT....I don't have to like! Thank God for portable CD players!


Message: 15088 Posted: Fri Jan 05 07:29:26 2001 By: EDDY
Subject: Emma

Got "12&12" by Jeffrey Foskett, I have to admit, this is a great CD!!
I thought he did a great cover of Gerry's "Emma", I like the original better, but also like this version as well, plus Gerry's on the track.
(I sent a recording of the song to the webMaster, so maybe he might add it to the webpage)
Other great songs are: The word go, w/Jeff Larson, a Brian Wilson/Tony Asher song called Everything I need (this one sounds like it could of been on Pet Sounds, I thought it would be a perfect song for Carl.W., if he were still around)there's not a dud on this CD!

Here are Jeff's comments on the song "Emma": {Gerry and I have worked together for years. When we first played the demo of "Emma" for me in the early 1990's I loved it and said "One day I'm going to cover that song" After listening to Gerry's great vocal, guitar, & piano work, we all wondered why this song isn't on America's Live play list.
Thanks Gerry for your years of true friendship.}

I remember trying to keep this song "alive" during the contest, & would LOVE to hear America's Live version of this song.
Well, just wanted to share, better get ready for work.

Message: 15087 Posted: Thu Jan 04 22:04:46 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: re: bone's very random thoughts

Bones, you kill me!!! You forgot to mention the padded crotch-guard.

Message: 15086 Posted: Thu Jan 04 20:50:53 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: A&E

"Hate to break this to you Andy, but they screen the calls and would probably call block anyone named ANDY!"

Which is why I'll say that I'm "Robyn" requesting "Horse"...then when I go live........surprise surprise :)


Message: 15085 Posted: Thu Jan 04 20:33:02 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: A&E

Hate to break this to you Andy, but they screen the calls and would probably call block anyone named ANDY!

Message: 15084 Posted: Thu Jan 04 20:24:57 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: A&E

"I still think A&E's "Live By Request" needs to have America on. Maybe an acoustic performance would be an added plus to get the guys on the show."

Johnny, I'd be their worst nightmare if my call got through to the show. They'd be expecting requests for "You Can Do Magic" or "Horse". I'd be requesting "Tall Treasure", "Seasons" , Sgt. Darkness, and "MY DEAR" . I think I'd be the caller from hell. :O)


Message: 15083 Posted: Thu Jan 04 19:53:08 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: re: random thoughts

I am so glad I am not drawing the winner

Hey, I'm going to let my nine year old son draw the winner. That way those who don't win can be mad at him. Besides, he likes to be muddy (Mr. Mud)!

Message: 15082 Posted: Thu Jan 04 19:51:08 2001 By: Bones
Subject: re: random thoughts

I wonder if Mr. Beckley & Mr. Brunell wouldn't mind if the Cayman gig video taped. Maybe the winner can wear "catcher cam" or "helmet cam" to the show. I don't think he/she would look that foolish wearing a catchers mask or a football helmet on the beach.

Message: 15081 Posted: Thu Jan 04 18:50:54 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: A&E

I still think A&E's "Live By Request" needs to have America on. Maybe an acoustic performance would be an added plus to get the guys on the show.

I think the last performer was kd lang. I definitely think she's a wonderful singer (own her controversially titled CD, "All You Can Eat") but frankly I was surprised that she was selected to perform.

Message: 15080 Posted: Thu Jan 04 18:33:22 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: The Playlist????

I sure am wondering what the Caymans playlist is going to be! That alone is going to be interesting.

Wouldn't it be great if we all could go to a centralized place in the US and have D&G perform their acoustic show for us?

Message: 15079 Posted: Thu Jan 04 18:08:16 2001 By: TerryT
Subject: re: random thoughts

Good one, Janice!

I second Leaky's choices, John L, and it definitely sounds like a party!

Johnny, regarding your "MTV Unplugged"??? post and its subsequent reply:

"You mean...what a great opportunity for Dewey, Gerry & DAN...
When you wish upon a star! Your dreams can come true."

Am I dreaming or reading too much into the statement at the bottom of Dan' latest bio episode?
He says, "...see you again on Saturday January the 13th, 2001!"


Message: 15078 Posted: Thu Jan 04 17:42:44 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: random thoughts

I am so glad I am not drawing the winner Steve..that way I can stay "buddies" with everyone and you can be Mr. Mud. :-)

Message: 15077 Posted: Thu Jan 04 17:33:01 2001 By: jeff brink

...used to fly alot in the 70's. lots of military flights and quite a few civilian flights. Once flew from Keesler a.f.b. Biloxi Ms. to Diego Garcia, Indian ocean with stops at Travis a.f.b. Calif., Hickham a.f.b. Hawaii, Andersen a.f.b. Guam, Clark a.f.b. phillipines and some where in Singapore. ...Aways enjoyed flying back then. Flying on C-141's for hours on end could be alittle trying sometimes though...facing the rear, no windows. Anyway, twenty some years later I'm afraid to fly.


Message: 15076 Posted: Thu Jan 04 17:04:46 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re:random thoughts

good luck to all of you who have entered the drawing....and as mentioned before...remember photos and a full report when you return...
( you think you could survive the flight in a large luggage bag?)

..and didnt someone sing Muskrat Lunch not so long ago?

Message: 15075 Posted: Thu Jan 04 16:08:54 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: re: random thoughts

Thanks to everyone who voted for the Webmaster to take the Cayman tickets. However, I'm going to declare myself ineligible this time. There have been quite a few people enter the drawing - I only wish that they could all win. Since only one person can win, let me ask beforehand that the ones who don't win PLEASE don't hate me (LOL)! I'll announce the winner sometime around midnight Friday night (Eastern time).

Message: 15074 Posted: Thu Jan 04 15:50:14 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: random thoughts

Oooo..I gotta jump in here..roast muskrat..yummmm..

Message: 15073 Posted: Thu Jan 04 15:49:45 2001 By: msmith
Subject: john lussier random thoughts

john, i vote for "hat trick". ..and leaky, i think it's a great ideal that the webmaster takes the cayman tickets!

Message: 15072 Posted: Thu Jan 04 14:50:50 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: re:randum thoughts

Leaky, that was a good one about the dish. But, it really depends on whether it's dinner first or the singing first. If the meal's first, then maybe play "Muskrat Love" and call it, "Muskrat Revisited". And, if you confess that it's really muskrat and not pork, it really might be "muskrat revisited", if you know what I mean.

Maureen, I bet Dan does do a great version of "Turn, Turn, Turn".

Message: 15071 Posted: Thu Jan 04 13:13:12 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re:randum thoughts

Song I will bring: California Revisited
Dish I will bring: Muskrat

I second the motion regarding unplugged from the Caymans and I motion that Steve take the airline tickets and take his wife on a nice vacation in the Caymans!

Message: 15070 Posted: Thu Jan 04 13:12:32 2001 By: Maureen
Subject: Re: Redos

The "Turn, Turn, Turn" song is on the new PEACE CD, "Under The Mercy". You can get it at

Message: 15069 Posted: Thu Jan 04 13:11:20 2001 By: Maureen
Subject: Re: Redos

Speaking of redos, Dan Peek (formerly of AMERICA) and PEACE do a great redo of The Birds' song, "Turn, Turn, Turn".

Message: 15068 Posted: Thu Jan 04 12:57:32 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Gerry's Girls

You know, we haven't heard from one of "Gerry's Girls" in a while. I think we should come up with a new one. Got any suggestions? Maybe an errant hook or phrase phloating around?


Message: 15067 Posted: Thu Jan 04 12:54:15 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: random thoughts

I'd bring Sister Golden Hair. Everyone knows the words, it's peppy and would pump it up a notch!

TkH<-----queen of pep (NOT) snicker

Message: 15066 Posted: Thu Jan 04 08:45:50 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: random thoughts

John, if I were at that same party, just for myself, I'd have you play everything you know that's America! YOU would be the party!!! I definitely would ask you to play "Jody" for me.

As far as which song to play, if you were to play a song by James Taylor for example and I'm only familiar with his hits, I'd enjoy hearing one of them verses something I'm not familiar with. So, for the America song, I'd choose "Ventura Highway".

Steve, regarding G, D, AND D, I don't blame you for wishing.

Message: 15065 Posted: Thu Jan 04 06:30:59 2001 By: Mark
Subject: Re: single from human nature...MORE

If FAMT had been more successful in getting air play, I'm sure a second single would have been released. FAMT was a number 1 hit in Spain and Wednesday Morning was released as the follow-up single there. It's tough when your working with a small label that doesn't have a lot of resources. In those situations, you tend to get one chance and that's it.

Message: 15064 Posted: Wed Jan 03 21:02:23 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Tonight's chat

Thanks to all who came in. We had a nice, if delayed, group listen of "hearts" as always people made thoughtful and thought proviking comments. I can't get to my album ( dd is asleep in the room where it is and I would have to turn on the light so...) who played the horn on "Seasons" ? Thanks!

Next week we will listen to Human Nature. Hope lots of you can join us!

Message: 15063 Posted: Wed Jan 03 20:42:52 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: random thoughts

Thanks for the great "Must Haves" suggestions, everyone. Contest for the Won't be putting my name in though. Aarghh!

Here's my dilemna.

We are going to a party on Saturday night and each guest has to bring, along with libations and something to nibble on, one song to play. So I've narrowed it down to a song by America. (That took about a second) Now, do I go for one of the tried and true (VEntura Highway is my fav.) or expose people to something they wouldn't have heard before? I'm leaning toward Young Moon, maybe Wednesday Morning. Hat Trick is also a real possibility. Oh, the choices, the choices.

Message: 15062 Posted: Wed Jan 03 20:41:09 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: random thoughts

Thanks for the great "Must Haves" suggestions, everyone. Contest for the Won't be putting my name in though. Aarghh!

Here's my dilemna.

We are going to a party on Saturday night and each guest has to bring, along with libations and something to nibble on, one song to play. So I've narrowed it down to a song by America. (That took about a second) Now, do I go for one of the tried and true (VEntura Highway is my fav.) or expose people to something they wouldn't have heard before? I'm leaning toward Young Moon, maybe Wednesday Morning. Hat Trick is also a real possibility. Oh, the choices, the choices.

Message: 15061 Posted: Wed Jan 03 20:04:44 2001 By: Janice
Subject: Thanks Cari..

for sharing the "non-rev message",it is a privilege and can be revoked for the reasons you mentioned. A few of you (you know who you are) have flown on my passes and I haven't gotten fired yet (thank you very much)..and I hope that many more of you take me up on my offer. It really is no big deal..honest..just drop it already. ;-)

Message: 15060 Posted: Wed Jan 03 18:44:43 2001 By: Steve
Subject: Re: "MTV Unplugged"???

You mean...what a great opportunity for Dewey, Gerry & Dan...
When you wish upon a star! Your dreams can come true.

Message: 15059 Posted: Wed Jan 03 18:38:17 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: "MTV Unplugged"???

With the Caymans show in mind, I wonder...does MTV still do their "MTV Unplugged"? What a wonderful opportunity that would be for Gerry and Dewey! You know with all that practicing, it sure would be great if they could do an "Unplugged" show.

I hope their management or booking company will look into it. Maybe as fans, we can be of help.

Message: 15058 Posted: Wed Jan 03 18:03:51 2001 By: Cari

Janice - so very generous of you!!!!! As a former airline employee, just wanted to share something with all of you. This is truly generous of Janice to make such an offer.

Please keep in mind that the way we dress, comments we make and the overall way we behave as a pass rider directly affects those generous enough to share their passes. I had employees at LAX lose their travel benefits for 90 days because they did not make the guidelines absolutely clear to the pass traveler. One case in particular, flight was delayed, then cancelled, had a bit to drink during the long delay and then demanded to be reaccomodated. Very sad situation for the employee.

Janice, its such an awesome-generous offer, just wanted everyone to understand. Thanx again


Message: 15057 Posted: Wed Jan 03 17:32:21 2001 By: Erin
Subject: sorry :o)

i have no idea why that posted twice....sorry everyone!

erin :o)

Message: 15056 Posted: Wed Jan 03 17:31:13 2001 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Grammy Awards

That's AWESOME Switchfoot was nominated. They're really good...I sure hope they win!!

I hope you are all having a great Wednesday!

Erin :o)

Message: 15055 Posted: Wed Jan 03 15:46:30 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Fate

Yeah, it's weird how things work out sometimes!!!! I'm one of those people that believe if it's your turn to GO, you just DO....guess it just wasn't your sister's turn (luckily!)

TkH<-------in the material world

Message: 15054 Posted: Wed Jan 03 15:43:55 2001 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Grammy Awards

That's AWESOME Switchfoot was nominated. They're really good...I sure hope they win!!

I hope you are all having a great Wednesday!

Erin :o)

Message: 15053 Posted: Wed Jan 03 15:37:03 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: Cayman

Johnny, TWA800 was tragic..and I am very glad your sister was not a victim, although my heart breaks for those who were not as fortunate. I was dating someone that was a victim of the Skywest crash in LA back in 1990. He knew I loved fact one of our dates was to see America at the Coach House in San Juan Capistrano together. He was living in SFO at the time and he flew down for the concert.
Anyway, I know about other airlines brother works for American in LA..they pay service charges for everything and Delta gives us unlimited for free. The Buddy Passes are an extra perk but they assess a small service charge for them. I am happy to provide them, and I apologize for not getting the word out sooner. I know whoever goes to Cayman will have a wonderful time! :-) And there's always next time too!

Message: 15052 Posted: Wed Jan 03 14:01:23 2001 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Grammy Awards

Matt's friends, Switchfoot, were just nominated for a Grammy for Best Rock Gospel Album for "Learning to Breathe"
Matt - I'd love to hear what their reaction was to the news.
Take care, all.
ShariL <><

Message: 15051 Posted: Wed Jan 03 13:58:22 2001 By: red oak
Subject: Redos

Before America visits Colorado twice in March, I would hope they would add a couple of the following to their playlist:

Monday,Monday - Mamas & Papas
Bend Me,Shape Me - American Breed
Fallin in Love - Hamilton,Joe,Frank & Reynolds
In the year 2525 - Zager & Evans
Summer Breeze - Seals & Crofts
Green Eyed Lady - Sugarloaf
Anything by Johnny Rivers

Looking forward to hearing great music in Fort Collins & Denver in March. Thank you America for appearing here.

Message: 15050 Posted: Wed Jan 03 13:52:09 2001 By: red oak
Subject: test


Message: 15049 Posted: Wed Jan 03 13:43:26 2001 By: jeff brink
Subject: Music... there's a great song.

Message: 15048 Posted: Wed Jan 03 09:36:00 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Cayman Contest and Neil Finn

Janice, that's very, very nice of you to provide the Buddy Pass!

My sister flies for TWA but only the employee's parents, spouse, and children are permitted free flights. I can't fly free as her brother but her step-children can. Go figure! By the way, my sister was nearly on TWA's Flight 800 that blew up over the Atlantic just off of New York. A co-worker asked her numerous times to switch flights but my sister turned her down each time because the 800 flight paid less than the flight she was already assigned to. The attendant did find someone else to switch with though. She must feel really glad yet really awful...knowing she avoided death but "helped" put another person on board a death flight.

I bought two Crowded House-related CDs the other day. One was the CD that Gerry and Kiri really like, Neil Finn's "Try Whistling This". The other one is Neil and Tim Finn's, "Finn Brothers". Although both are very good, I like the "Finn Brothers" more. It's more to my liking of being more upbeat. I recommend it to Gerry and Kiri.

Message: 15047 Posted: Wed Jan 03 07:31:01 2001 By: Pat B.
Subject: Happy Birthday George Martin

I heard on the radio, that today is George Martin's birthday. They said he turns 75.

Happy Birthday George!

(I hope I have the right George!?)

Message: 15046 Posted: Wed Jan 03 07:24:22 2001 By: Pat B.
Subject: Re: Yesterday's Date and Dewey's Song

Thanks Johnny for recognizing the significance of the 1st day of the new millennium.

America is certainly number 1 in my opinion!

Message: 15045 Posted: Wed Jan 03 06:48:58 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Chat

Please join me this evening at 7:15 Pacific to listen to the Hearts cd.
The chat does start earlier than that, but that will allow me time to get home, burn uh make dinner and get settled. See you there!

Message: 15044 Posted: Wed Jan 03 06:18:03 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Yesterday's Date and Dewey's Song



TkH<----------Colds? IN FLORIDA?!?!?!?!

Message: 15043 Posted: Wed Jan 03 06:17:28 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Cayman Contest

See THIS is why the "our" little space on the internet is SO great!
How many OTHER folders/chat areas do this? (Ok, I'm ignorant. SOSUME!
(C; )

TkH<--------label conscious!

Message: 15042 Posted: Tue Jan 02 21:42:33 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: single from human nature...MORE

Here are some factors that I think have to be considered regarding the release of a second single:

1) Does the music company have the funds to promote another single?
2) Does the company have the personnel to help properly promote it?
3) Does the band have the time to adequately promote it?
4) Does the company think there's a good chance of success?

I'm sure there's a number of other factors that a music company has to take into account.

Message: 15041 Posted: Tue Jan 02 21:21:43 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: single from human nature

Nanse, Oxygen wanted to release "Moment To Moment" as the second single. The majority of us fans wanted "Wednesday Morning". So, Oxygen had us vote on the two songs here on the Folder. "WM" won hands-down. Nothing happened after that. I'm sure there was a good reason. It just wasn't told to us. But, I feel sure that D&G and Oxygen would have pressed on if it would have worked out. I think there are so many things that can come up that prevent the release of a song. Apparently, that is what happened in this case.

Message: 15040 Posted: Tue Jan 02 20:53:47 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: re: Caymans

Janice and Steve--AWESOME! Good luck everyone. That is a great idea.

Message: 15039 Posted: Tue Jan 02 20:05:10 2001 By: Erin
Subject: Happy (Late) New Year

Just wanted to wish everyone on this board and of course all of America a very Happy New Year. I wish I could've seen the New Year's Eve show....sounds like it was amazing. (Jim, GREAT pictures!!) I spent my NYE in San Francisco watching fireworks with 300,000 other people. I hope you all have a very happy and safe 2001!! And hopefully I will be seeing lots of you in Reno sometime soon!

Erin :o)

Message: 15038 Posted: Tue Jan 02 19:33:32 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: Caymans

Yes..I have 2 one person or a couple or 2 different people from 2 different destinations. And they are about 3 cents a mile good for first class or coach (whatever is available upon check-in). These are Buddy Passes and since you are all my buddies I hope that at least one of you can go. :-)
I am happy to provide these passes for America fans and if you can't go this time please contact me later for a concert you would like to go to.

Message: 15037 Posted: Tue Jan 02 19:19:40 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Cayman Contest

I haven't heard anything about an official contest for the Cayman Islands gig, but with the help of Janice Gabriel we have come up with our version of a contest. Janice works for Delta Airlines (promotional plug - LOL) and receives Buddy Passes which she can give away. The Buddy Passes are good for ALMOST free air fare to anywhere Delta flies (I think it works out to about 13 cents a mile). For example, it would cost me about $160 to fly from Salt Lake City to Grand Cayman Island on a Buddy Pass as opposed to well over $1,000 for the cheapeast fare I could find. With that in mind, here's how the contest will work.

1. You must be able to fly to Grand Cayman Island for the January 13 concert (you can arrive anytime before and leave anytime after the 13th).
2. You must follow the Buddy Pass guidelines which include a slight fee to your destination based on mileage.
3. You must arrange your own hotel accomodations, transportation, and provide your own food.
4. You must report back on the concert - photos would be appreciated but are not necessary. According to Morey Management, the concert is free compliments of the department of tourism.
5. You must send a mail message to Steve at before midnight on Friday, January 5, saying you would like to be included in the drawing.
6. Only one entry allowed per person. An e-mail reply will be sent to all names that are put in the drawing so that you know it has been received.
7. The drawing will be held on Saturday, January 6, and the winner will be contacted via e-mail. In the event that the winner does NOT meet the criteria listed above, a new winner will be drawn.

I wish you all the best of luck and want to give a BIG thanks to Janice for providing the Buddy Passes!

Message: 15036 Posted: Tue Jan 02 18:54:36 2001 By: Nanse
Subject: single from human nature

from a moving train was a great single release from HN but months ago we talked about there being another single release and we all wondered what it would be. do we know yet or will there be one? my choice would be any!!!!!!!!!

also, does anyone know when there might be a Fan Gathering in Reno?? (hint hint Gary) Nanse

Message: 15035 Posted: Tue Jan 02 17:27:35 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Yesterday's Date and Dewey's Song

Yesterday's date reminded me of one of Dewey's songs.

The date: 0l0l0l

Sir D's song: oloololo

Message: 15034 Posted: Tue Jan 02 17:14:18 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Air Waves

Beech, you even speak "America-ese". I see that your own words are like America's lyrics, "WHERE EVER I GO" and "AROUND".

"Right Back To Me": WHEREVER I GO it's coming back to me

"All Around": All AROUND, listen and you can hear the sound

Message: 15033 Posted: Tue Jan 02 16:44:53 2001 By: jeff brink
Subject: Music...

Beechlady mentioned THEME FROM A SUMMER PLACE. Now there's a great song.

Message: 15032 Posted: Tue Jan 02 16:34:12 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Air Waves

I've found that where ever I go, I'm followed around by America's music...........(My Mom also thinks she's kidding).....Home Depot, K-mart, Target. I've heard HWNN, FAMT, SisG, V-HWY, L.P. It's getting so my kids and husband look at me and roll their eyes. It's almost like having that parking space open up for you RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE STORE all the time!!! Wow. Weird Karma!

TkH<---------delusions of mediocrity!!!

Message: 15031 Posted: Tue Jan 02 16:24:58 2001 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: Re: young moon on the radio

Other stations should be so "rinky-dink."

Message: 15030 Posted: Tue Jan 02 14:53:48 2001 By: Alan
Subject: Re: young moon on the radio

<< Has anyone else heard new songs on the radio? >>

Our rinky-dink little local station (Farmington, Maine) plays "From A Moving Train" occasionally.

Message: 15029 Posted: Tue Jan 02 14:48:21 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Another New Year's Concert Report and Chipmunk Question???

You are right there LisaRose! Just wishful thinking on my part. dd and I were listening to "all my life" in the car earlier and talked about it a bit. Both of us wished they would play it. In any case, it was an awesome show and a wonderful evening! ( and no Johnny I did not get any shots. I did not think to grab a box camera at the store!)

Message: 15028 Posted: Tue Jan 02 14:01:44 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: the kids are alright

...I read Jamie's bio (the newest fan bio)and was elated to see a 21 year old fan that has been a fan since he was sixteen. As an old time fan, and an old timer, I am always pleasently amazed when todays generation recognizes the talent of America...

(people try to put us ddddddown......)

Message: 15027 Posted: Tue Jan 02 12:40:57 2001 By: RichM
Subject: On the Radio

Its not the radio, but I was in a karaoke bar in San Francisco last week and they had the music for "From a Moving Train." (In addition to "Horse" and "SGH".) I was surprised they had FMT and was tempted to give it a shot, but decided that the crowd would probably not appreciate my singing skills. I also didn't have anyone to sing Dewey's part.


Message: 15026 Posted: Tue Jan 02 11:11:36 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: re:America on the Radio

Heard "All Around", "Rainbow Song", and "Lovely Night" on the radio years ago. Talking about "Rainbow Song", I wonder if it was a hit in Spain because I know it was released as a 45 with "Muskrat Love" as the flip-side.

Enjoyed the photos from the New Year's Eve concert that Jim took. Hope someone submits photos taken from the front while the family members were on stage. Would really like to see their faces.

Gerry as a chipmunk? Hmmmm. I heard he was a Chippendale. :0)

Resolution: Not to be so silly. As you see, I've already failed.

Message: 15025 Posted: Tue Jan 02 09:43:07 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re:America on the Radio

..Nanse......over the Holidays I heard "Hark the Angels" by America on KTMK 94.5 Temecula Radio...its good to see Temecula Radio supporting America...!!!

Message: 15024 Posted: Tue Jan 02 08:00:30 2001 By: Nanse
Subject: young moon on the radio

wow!!!! got in my car this morning and on the radio was young moon. i thought i had a cd already in the player but to my surprise, it was the radio. a radio station here in little temecula califonia was playing your song DEWEY. i am so excited. the dj announced at the end that it was AMERICA and this is the same guy that plays a lot of AMERICA songs during the day.... the station is T-94.5 and is new here. Congratulations and let's hope this is a new beginning. Has anyone else heard new songs on the radio? take care. NANSE

Message: 15023 Posted: Tue Jan 02 07:56:01 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Another New Year's Concert Report and Chipmunk Question???

Lisa, you are correct about the set list. They print up the entire list of songs that they're currently playing and then they cross out the ones that won't be played that night. I remember that when they played in Park City last year they were in the dressing room prior to going on stage debating whether or not they should play Hangover for the Park City crowd. They decided that they probably would but they would make a final determination on stage depending on how the crowd was reacting. They did end up playing it and I'm glad they did because it's the only time I've heard it live. So, the set list is very dynamic and can change for various reasons, the primary one being the amount of time that they have to play.

Regarding the Chipmunk question: Yes, Gerry was a Chipmunk so your friend was right.

Message: 15022 Posted: Tue Jan 02 07:33:17 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: Re: Ryan Adams.

Matt: If you like Ryan Adams's solo album, listen to the previous band he fronted called Whiskeytown? They only had a three or four albums out, but they were awesome, especially Strangers Almanac. The song "16 Days" got a lot of radioplay here in Dallas. Whiskeytown's last album was never released because their record label went under and they couldn't come to terms with another label to release it. Once they split up, nobody was interested. It's a double CD and it's supposed to be incredible.


Message: 15021 Posted: Mon Jan 01 20:01:21 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Another New Year's Concert Report and Chipmunk Question???

Oh Robyn--at least you got to see them--am so...jealous. Was at a boring house party with "house music"!!! It sounds like you had a great time. I have seen their set list before and I believe (but I could be corrected) that they put all the possible songs they would do and for some reason--possibly time or their preference they pick and choose from the list before the show. So, they might not have ever planned to play "All My Life" but then again this is really just my theory. I have "stolen" many of their set lists and have seen similar crossing out of songs. On another note---a friend of mine for years and I were talking the other night and well am almost afraid to say it cause I think he is "nuts" (no pun intented!) but hesaid that Gerry was a Chipmunk??? Any truth to this? or has my buddy completely lost it??? Anybody ever hear this???

Message: 15020 Posted: Mon Jan 01 19:31:16 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Another New Year's Concert Report

ARGH!!!!!!! They were going to play "All My Life"?????

Thanks for the report Rob. I wondered if any other web fans would be there! Great show, as always.

Message: 15019 Posted: Mon Jan 01 19:19:59 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: The New Millenium

Well, now that the "I told you so's" were bantered across the phone lines at my family (the old "which year is the new millenium" arguement that we've had for the last 2 and the really nasty cheap champagne has been consumed, I hope EVERYONE had a great New Years Eve and N.Y.Day! Of course Michigan won the Citrus Bowl (oh yippee) and Dad sprung for dinner, so ours was one in a million (alright, maybe one in ten thousand-LOL)!!! To those who went to the L.A. celebration-I'M JEALOUS of you all!!!!

Anyway, to make a long point longer,,,,,what are all of your resolutions this year? Anyone make any? Or are we all just too old/tired/"over that"....I'm curious.

I'll lead (if that's ok---I guess even if it isn't you can hit Steve's almighty "next" button)!

Tolerance. I've slipped a bit this year.

Anyway, wishing everyone a peaceful and happy Millenium!

TkH<-------"Theme From A Summer Place"

Message: 15018 Posted: Mon Jan 01 17:01:40 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Another New Year's Concert Report

Here's a mail message I received from MusicRob in Los Angeles:

First of all, incredible web site! Always has been!

Some friends and I spent the final minutes of the infamous year 2000 with America last night. It was one of the best New Year's moments I have had yet. Just after we all kissed our girls, hugged our friends, high-fived the people sitting next to us, they boys broke into Tin Man, and dropped a mother load of balloons and confetti all over the place! The balloons were bouncing around to the beat of the music, and I thought to myself... they should drop balloons on every concert!! It was magical!

Anyway, we then made our way down to the stage for the encore "Horse With No Name", and we had a blast!

I have made an observation throughout my experiences at many America concerts. Gerry seems to always throw his guitar picks out to the crowd in a random fashion. I was once lucky enough to catch one! One year at the House of Blues on Sunset, I was able to catch Dewey's attention and signal to him by doing my "air picking" motion, and he came back from the other far side of the stage and "placed" his signature pick in my hand! Well, my New Year's Eve ended re-living that moment for a second time. After Horse With No Name was done, the band took their bows, and everyone was headed off stage, with Dewey last in line. Just before he exited toward the back of the stage, I yelled with all my strength... "Dewey!", and then did my best "air picking". Being the gracious person he is, he once again, years later, stopped in his tracks, and came way out of his way to deliver that pick straight into my hand. What a guy!

I was then able to get one of the roadies to hand me a set list sheet from the stage. Below is the list as it was planned. It contains all songs in order. Note: some of the songs were on the set list, but were crossed out by hand, and did not get performed. I have transcribed the list exactly as it was written.

Ventura Highway
Don't Cross The River
Daisey Jane
Wind Or Forever (presuming they were going to make a last minute decision)
Mirror To Mirror
Another Try
Three Roses
I Need You
Wed. Morning
Wheels Are Turning
Tin Man (first America song of 2001!)
Woman Tonight
Only In Your Heart
California Dreaming
Lonely People
Hangover (very appropriate for NYE!)
Beatles (anyone know which one they were thinking?)
Never Be Lonely
Sister Golden Hair
All My Life
California Revisted
Horse With No Name

Christopher Cross and Poco were cool to see also.

Just had to share my experience with everyone!

Happy New Year America, and all America Fans!

FYI: The Beatles song is "Things We Said Today". Thanks for the great report, Rob.

Message: 15017 Posted: Mon Jan 01 14:53:33 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: oh, by the way

they should fire the spot guy. Woodz did half his solos in the dark. At one point, I turned to dh and said Get up there and run the spot!

Message: 15016 Posted: Mon Jan 01 14:10:16 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: WOW!!!!!

What a fabulous way to celebrate New Year's eve! My seats were terrific, third row, almost center. Christopher Cross began the evening. I have said before that he is not one of my favorites, the crowd reaction was pretty good ( except for the guy in front of dh, who seemed to be asleep). Poco was amazing! after all these years, those guys still rock and were having so much fun it was contagious. Rusty Young played with the audience and their energy ignited the crowd. dh said later he didn't realize that they played all those songs ( shades of what Gerry said later about a song he introduced as being from the I didn't know thay played that one file) America got to the stage about 11:30. They had this big clock on the stage counting down till midnight. I did not keep a set list ( frankly I was having too much fun to stop and write stuff down) they began with Riverside. It was the short set. about two minutes to midnight Dewey said. I suppose I need to kill time here. They brought out friends ad family members. Matt handed his father a glass of champagne. He had a few hawaiian leis which he tossed into the crowd. dd and I began screaming his name. He tossed her one ( Thanks Matt, you made her night!) at the stoke of midnight, balloons dropped paper confetti cannons went off and the crowd ( supplied with noisemakers) went nuts! everyone was on their feet ( except the guy in front of dh- who seemed a bit dazed by the whole thing) When they came back for hwnn, they had an assortment of people with them, including Billy Mumy and a woman identified as an agent. Matt played a solo, ( Gerry was just beaming) All in all a wonderful night. I did NOT want it to end. THANKS GUYS! ( let's do it again next year!!!)

Message: 15015 Posted: Mon Jan 01 13:02:05 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: All Things Are Possible

Thanks for bringing in the New Year with some good news(esp since I am in disgusting snowy NYC!). I just ordered myself a copy of the vinyl (yes I do still have a turn table--hey I grew up in the 70's!)---just because of what you said--("Love is Justanother Word" which is the last recording of the 3) Happy New Year to you, everyone on the board and of course "AMERICA"!

Message: 15014 Posted: Mon Jan 01 10:09:49 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: All Things Are Possible

As a kickoff to 2001, an announcement has been added to A time capsule dated 1978 with the message "Open in the year 2001" has been opened and inside were original 1978 pressings of Dan Peek's first solo LP "All Things Are Possible". This is NOT a CD, it is the original vinyl and is only playable on phonographic equipment. A limited quantity are available for purchase from 7 Mile Entertainment for $9.95. You can also listen to some soundclips from the album on Dan's web site.

The sound clip of "Love Is Just Another Word" will be of special interest to America Fans. As far as we know, this is the last known recording made by Dan Peek, Dewey Bunnell, and Gerry Beckley.

Message: 15013 Posted: Mon Jan 01 10:01:03 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: AMERICA sings in the New Year !

Thanks for the reports from the field Messrs. Smith and Nakao. As soon as I get the photos from Jim I'll get them posted.

Looking at the concert schedule it appears that Gerry and Dewey are going to take a short rest before they head to the Cayman Islands. Is anyone going to join them?

Best wishes to everyone for a safe and prosperous 2001 - the year of America's music odyssey!

Message: 15012 Posted: Mon Jan 01 09:33:42 2001 By: jimnak
Subject: AMERICA sings in the New Year !

AMERICA less than 24 hours from their highly successful 2 day run in Las Vegas, gave an explosive performance to a wild crowd at the Universal Ampitheatre in Universal City California (near Hollywood). As the headliners, they played for 75 minutes to close the year after briefer sets by Christopher Cross & Poco. Leading up to the strike of midnite, AMERICA had the entire crowd on their feet & screaming at the top of their lungs, I think the classic song HANGOVER sort of served as the catalyst for the countdown frenzy that left no one sitting. GERRY & DEWEY & the band were well dressed for the event, DEWEY in an awfully expensive looking suit w/a goldish looking silk tie & GERRY all in black. There was no better way to bring in 2001 than in the house of AMERICA ! The schedule for 2001 will steadily get populated & AMERICA is already making plans to tackle 2001. Their booking agent, who by the way made an appearance on the HORSE WITH NO NAME encore, is hard at work getting dates set for AMERICA. So plan on seeing AMERICA in 2001. Also on the HORSE WITH NO NAME encore was Matt Beckley son of GERRY & Bill Mummy (remember Lost in Space ?), a good friend & occasional song collaborator. AMERICA goes forward in 2001 ! Three cheers for AMERICA ! Fotos to follow to dear old Steve Lowry. HIGHWAY 30 YEARS OF AMERICA & HUMAN NATURE are AMERICA's latest releases.

Message: 15011 Posted: Mon Jan 01 08:59:36 2001 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: Help! Need lyrics to In the morning from Hideous Kinky

According to, the only America song in the movie was A HORSE WITH NO NAME. Could they have played ONE MORNING uncredited?

Happy New Year everyone

I got a hangover, so just leave me where I lay...

Message: 15010 Posted: Mon Jan 01 07:23:41 2001 By: Janice
Subject: Well Robyn??

Hey, it's 7:22am report on the New Years concert. What's up with that? :-) On a motrin buzz....HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!! Janice

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