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Archives: May 2001

Message: 17209 Posted: Thu May 31 21:24:41 2001 By: Erin
Subject: Re: No subject title seems fitting

Stay strong, and your family are in my prayers...

Message: 17208 Posted: Thu May 31 20:28:31 2001 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: No subject title seems fitting


I want to echo the +attitude and +energy advice. Your thoughts and charitable heart make this board a better place. More than just words…My prayers, faith, and hope are with you.

In the words of Gerry Beckley…

You gotta hope it'll be alright
Come on and hope it'll turn out fine

Message: 17207 Posted: Thu May 31 20:18:49 2001 By: Lazlo
Subject: Bud Scoppa on HOLIDAY

BYLINE: Bud Scoppa
PERIODICAL: Rolling Stone
DATE: September 26, 1974

More than any other group of the Seventies, America---in both its British and US periods---has epitomized the stiff soulless side of California pop. After pretending to be Neil Young for an album, America developed an identifiable sound based on acoustic guitars, minor keys, and nasal harmonies. To the group's credit it now has chosen to expand its style rather than play out a rather limited hand.

On HOLIDAY America has looked to the Beatles for inspiration, going so far as to enlist the services of George Martin as producer and arranger. It was a good move: The tracks are dominated by piano and strings rather than guitars, giving the harmonies a soft billowy base, and the album as a whole sounds more solidly prepared than the group's earlier LPs. And Martin hasn't done this well in five years.

But the key to America's surprising coming of age is the material, particularly the four songs and one instrumental piece by Gerry Beckley. Beckley seems to have switched his composing instrument from guitar to piano; his melodic songs are given momentum by simple syncopated keyboard parts. "Baby It's Up To You" has the most memorable melody the group has yet recorded and is surely one of its most durable tracks as well. "Mad Dog" and "What Does It Matter" betray a debt to McCartney's more wistful work in their tunes, lyrics, and vocals. That's another plus: Beckley has learned to sing with style. Dewey Bunnell's songs, while still containing much of the old America sound, are greatly enhanced by Martin's adventurous arrangements. Dan Peek is the most erratic of the three, but he too is starting to write strong melodies to go with often callow lyrics. HOLIDAY is not a work of genius by any means but it will surprise those people---and there are more than a few---who gagged on "Ventura Highway" and "A Horse with No Name".

Message: 17206 Posted: Thu May 31 18:31:57 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: ANybody want to chat?

I am going there now. Will hang out for a bit

Message: 17205 Posted: Thu May 31 18:08:48 2001 By: msmith
Subject: no subject seems fitting.

janice, i do not know you except through this chat folder, but i count you as one of the america family here. i do not know why bad things happen to good people. i do know that prayer by believers changes things. count me amoung your many friends here that are pulling and praying for you. gotta hope... mark

Message: 17204 Posted: Thu May 31 18:06:30 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: No subject title seems fitting

Janice If this experimental drug has only been used on 12 people, may you be the lucky 13th! Our prayers and hearts are with you. Robyn Alan and Kate

Message: 17203 Posted: Thu May 31 17:36:01 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Re: No subject title seems fitting

Dear Janice,

I was going to e-mail you today to ask how you were. I'm so sorry to hear your news; thank you for sharing it on the folder. I have a surgeon friend who, at age 46, was diagnosed with a rare cancer and his doctor said that he probably had about a year left to live. (No, I have NO idea why doctors say things like that.) Anyway, my friend undertook a brand new, "experimental" chemotherapy program and two years later is in total remission and feeling fine! Medical advances are mind-boggling now. I'm praying and believing that your story will be one of the many miracles that happen more often than we know.



Message: 17202 Posted: Thu May 31 16:26:21 2001 By: Rick Bolling
Subject: Re: No subject title seems fitting

Hey Janice,

Try and keep a positive attitude and believe that you will beat it.
My thoughts and prayers are with you.


Message: 17201 Posted: Thu May 31 15:26:38 2001 By: Angie
Subject: Re: No subject title seems fitting

My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Message: 17200 Posted: Thu May 31 14:57:03 2001 By: Alan
Subject: Re: No subject title seems fitting


I would like to echo so many others on this chat folder and let you know that the thoughts and prayers of myself and family are with you. Like Johhny said, don't underestimate the power of faith, prayer and a positive attitude.

In your post you gave a plea to support cancer research. I thought you might like to know that my band (Loose Ends) is playing tomorrow night at the Relay For Life, an event put on by the American Cancer Society to raise money for cancer research.

Hang in there. You've got a lot of people pulling for you.


Message: 17199 Posted: Thu May 31 14:27:22 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: No subject title seems fitting

My heart goes out to you. You and your family are very much in my thoughts. Remember, NOTHING is impossible, so try somehow to stay never know.


Message: 17198 Posted: Thu May 31 13:42:49 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: No subject title seems fitting

Yeah, what Johnny's Dad said, Janice!!!!!

I'm am so SORRY to hear about you.......

If you live in NOW you never know what can happen in the future!!! God (or insert your favorite deity/spiritual entity) doesn't give you anything you can't handle (I've always believed that old adage, anyway)!!!!! I'm sending you all the + energy you can handle!!!!


Message: 17197 Posted: Thu May 31 11:52:28 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: No subject title seems fitting

Hi Janice,

I'm so sorry to hear the news. One of my siblings is in need of an organ transplant. I think what my dad has told my sibling is good advice to follow so I want to pass it along to you.

Take it one day at a time. By taking life day-by-day, we can concentrate on the present and avoid wasting time and effort worrying about the future....especially since none of us knows positively about the future. Doctors may tell us what they believe but it's still all in God's hands. I strongly believe in the power of prayer. I hope this brings you some comfort.

In my prayers,

Message: 17196 Posted: Thu May 31 08:29:41 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Re: No subject title seems fitting

Stay strong.
Our Thoughts and Prayers are with you.

Message: 17195 Posted: Thu May 31 08:12:13 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Thoughts and Prayers

Janice, I have sent you a personal note with some of my feelings but I want you to know that our thoughts and prayers will be with you through all of this. --Steve and Janell

Message: 17194 Posted: Thu May 31 07:12:15 2001 By: Nina
Subject: No subject title seems fitting

Janice...My thoughts are with you and your family today. I wish for you the strength and peace of mind to face this crisis. I guess we never really know what's around the corner for each and everyone of us, do we?

Message: 17193 Posted: Thu May 31 06:57:34 2001 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: No subject title seems fitting

Our thoughts & prayers are with you.........

The Forsmans

Message: 17192 Posted: Thu May 31 06:47:44 2001 By: Mark
Subject: Re: No subject title seems fitting

Very, very sorry to hear this. Our prayers are with you!

Message: 17191 Posted: Thu May 31 06:31:43 2001 By: Pete
Subject: Re: No subject title seems fitting

My prayers are with you, keep the faith and you will stay strong.

Message: 17190 Posted: Thu May 31 06:02:21 2001 By: Janice
Subject: No subject title seems fitting

First, I want to thank all of those who write to me regularly. Your words of support and cards have meant much to me. My heart is heavy as I write this but I wanted to share. I have been diagnosed with a very rare and untreatable cancer. There is a drug but it has only been used on 12 people and not approved yet by the FDA. Please support cancer research..things like this should not happen to Moms with 3 kids. All the best to each of you.

Message: 17189 Posted: Thu May 31 05:13:03 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Rhino

Man, Bonus on Homecoming WOULD be a coup! My only caveat would have to be to go out and by the DVD player so I could play it. Ok, Tery, get INTO the 21 century!!!!! (LOL)


Message: 17188 Posted: Wed May 30 21:03:08 2001 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Rhino Will Release 2 America Albums

Maybe some BONUS tracks on Homecoming, & some new cuts on The Complete Greatest Hits?! (Like Rhino did W/Encore-More Greatest Hits)
That would be COOL!!!

Message: 17187 Posted: Wed May 30 20:57:45 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Rhino

I haven't heard anything official about the track listings but I have heard a rumor that there will be some bonus tracks. I have requested information from Rhino and if I hear anything that can be passed along publicly, this will be the first place that I post it.

Message: 17186 Posted: Wed May 30 19:58:48 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Rhino and chat

Any information on the content Steve? Sorry I missed everyone on the folder this evening. If anyone wants to chat tomorrow night, same time, let me know!

Message: 17185 Posted: Wed May 30 18:41:40 2001 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Rhino

Steve - Any track listing yet on the Aug. 21st release?

Message: 17184 Posted: Wed May 30 16:24:08 2001 By: Spurs
Subject: Rhino

Hello everyone,indeed welcome news concerning the upcoming releases,Homecoming sounds very interesting as does the complete Greatest Hits.More detail would be welcome,still seems like no news on America getting anything new released.Hope it's not a wait as long as the last Capitol recording and the release of Hourglass.

Message: 17183 Posted: Wed May 30 13:49:29 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Rhino Will Release 2 America Albums

The Rhino Upcoming Releases Web Page indicates that 2 America albums will be released in August...

August 21: America - The Complete Greatest Hits (Warner Archives)
August 28: America - Homecoming -DVD-AUDIO (Warner Archives)

Message: 17182 Posted: Wed May 30 13:11:48 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Chat

This evening's chat will take place at it's normally scheudled time. I will be in the room much later than my customary 7 pm as I am doing a "mom thing" this evening. Hope to see you all later!

Message: 17181 Posted: Wed May 30 06:40:20 2001 By: Janice
Subject: Episode 42

There is no describing the feeling I get when reading Dan's bio. Amazing. It brings me home. Having grown up near LA (Torrance, then Manhattan Beach and every other beach I could afford to live in..and as close to the water as possible!) his writings pull at my heartstrings. The trees are plentiful and beautiful here in Sharpsburg, but the beaches of Calif pull at me like a magnet and I look forward to returning soon. There's no place like home. Thanks Dan and hurry up with Episode 43!

Message: 17180 Posted: Tue May 29 18:41:12 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Some New Old News

With a lull on the folder, here's something to read. It's from the promotional company, Rogers&Cowan, of Los Angeles (1888 Century Park East, Suite 500, Los Angeles, CA 90067):

Highway: 30 Years Of America To Be Released July 18 From Warner Archives/Rhino

In celebration of AMERICA's 30th Anniversay, Warner Archives/Rhino is releasing the first-ever comprehensive box set collection of the rock-folk group's recordings entitled HIGHWAY: 30 YEARS OF AMERICA, on July 18. The three-CD set spans three decades of AMERICA classics, which includes almost the entire catalog of the band's 23 albums.

The new definitive collection includes rock staples, Sister Golden Hair, Ventura Highway, and Tin Man, along with liner notes featuring extensive interviews with founding members Gerry Beckley, Dewey Bunnell and Dan Peek. The interviews in the special collector series provide insight into the depth of their songwriting styles and take a unique look back into AMERICA's history.

In conjunction with the release, AMERICA will embark on a national tour beginning in July with Beckley and Bunnell (Peek left the group in 1977).

We look forward to discussing interview possibilities with you in relation to AMERICA's very special anniversary collection.

Deborah Keith Sandy Friedman
310/201-8842 310/201-8809

Message: 17179 Posted: Tue May 29 17:01:28 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Paul Bowles

Lazlo. I will check into it. I work for the largest library West of the Mississippi. Bowles was quite an amazing man. an inspiration for many of the "Beat Generation" authors as well as a respected composer.

Message: 17178 Posted: Tue May 29 16:46:36 2001 By: Lazlo
Subject: Paul Bowles

Memo to Robyn: I haven't read Bowles's THE SHELTERING SKY. But I've heard some of his music. I don't know if you're lucky enough to live near a large college record library like me. But if you do, look for a record called U.S. CHOICE, by a piano-duo consisting of Nurit Tilles & Edmund Niemann. It contains a Bowles masterpiece called NIGHT WALTZ. It's a piece for 2 pianos. It sounds very modernistic and weird and---dare I say it?---psychedelic.

Message: 17177 Posted: Tue May 29 12:50:48 2001 By: red oak
Subject: Good Vibrations

Isn't life great or what! The EAGLES will invade Invesco Field in Denver on August 11. I go to see AMERICA at the Paramount on June 22 & LITTLE RIVER BAND on September 27. I've got to run out and get Lotto tickets immediately!!!!!!

Message: 17176 Posted: Tue May 29 10:29:13 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: radiotelescopic Gerry

Interesting theory. I always thought the song related to Paul Bowles masterpiece of the same name and the "wireless" sound set the tone akin to the novel.

Message: 17175 Posted: Tue May 29 08:18:15 2001 By: Lazlo
Subject: radiotelescopic Gerry

Regarding the radiotelescope sound-effects that sandwich SHELTERING SKY. (If that indeed is what they are.) I'm convinced that they were inspired by the following observation from a book called THE LIVES OF JOHN LENNON.

Albert Goldman on I AM THE WALRUS: "The art lies in the composition, which suggests a long aural tracking shot; up close at the start, following the inconsequent sequence of programs across the dial, until the focus enlarges finally to the sublime perspective of a great dish antenna reaching out across the universe."

Message: 17174 Posted: Tue May 29 08:16:30 2001 By: kiri
Subject: anybody know?

a younger friend of mine is going with me to see the guys in july and she had me make her a mix of them to get to know them better (happy to say she is looking forward to the concert now).

in return, she dubbed me a couple of her favorites - richard thompson on one side and black 47 on the other. liked them both. anybody a fan of either of them?

Message: 17173 Posted: Mon May 28 18:25:54 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Tonight's NYC show at B.B. King's

So little time--so much to read!! Andy, glad you had a good time at the B.B. King show. I wish I was there but I was upstate. I did manage to see Matt Beckley's godfather perform though, on Sunday night in Connecticut --that being the wonderful Jimmy Webb who reminded me that he once opened up for "America". I WILL BE AT THE WESTBURY SHOW-SO HELP ME!!!!

Message: 17172 Posted: Mon May 28 15:43:06 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Music...

I'll tell you wha..........
At least you guys have an ACCURATE cablevision franchaise....ours decided to interrupt TNN (ok, so it was only the Miami Vice marathon-lol!!!) for Ge-olf without notice. THAT just peeves me least TELL us in advance fer Pete's sake. There was ONE specific show that I had wanted to see.........

TkH<-----+=! Tubbs!

Message: 17171 Posted: Mon May 28 12:49:00 2001 By: jeff brink
Subject: Re: Bee Gees

you're welcome.

Message: 17170 Posted: Mon May 28 12:14:24 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Bee Gees

Jeff, thanks for telling us about The Bee Gees being on the Family Channel tonight because I would have missed it, otherwise! According to my local TV directory, the show is scheduled to air at 9:00 PM MT which would be 11:00 PM ET. The directory reads: "The Bee Gees In Concert".

Message: 17169 Posted: Mon May 28 11:36:46 2001 By: jeff brink
Subject: Music...

I didn't see it listed in our local t.v. guide...but I think the Bee Gees are in concert on the family channel tonight around 8:00 pm EST. Their latest CD... THIS IS WHERE I CAME IN is very good.

Message: 17168 Posted: Mon May 28 10:26:04 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Manifest Destiny

Now THERE'S one place I'd love to visit!!! The brother-in-law did a driving "tour" up there and came back all enchanted!!!!!!!!!! Throw a concert in there and WOW!

TkH<--------+=! Throwing Mama's

Message: 17167 Posted: Mon May 28 10:24:19 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Beach Therapy HAD to make me sit and THINK, now didn't you.....(rofl)I was hoping I could get away with NOT thinking this whole holiday weekend.....THANKS...(rofl) Yeah, I can't wait to see what Mr. P has cooking!!!!!! "I get myself back to the womb..."

TkH<------+=! huh?

Message: 17166 Posted: Mon May 28 09:10:08 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: Manifest Destiny

Looks like America is once again invading Canada.
Aug. 25 the boys are coming up north to perform in St. John's Newfoundland. Ok. I've been praying for a concert up here but St. John's is about 4000 miles away (as far away from here as you can get and still be in the country). Be a bit of road trip all right.

Message: 17165 Posted: Mon May 28 06:53:59 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: Beach Therapy

ok Beech but:
"No Fortune Pays For Beach Pills Like These"
"You Take What You Want, I'll Take The Sunshine" ==> has a whole new meaning doesn't it?
By the way, I can't wait for more of Mr. Peek's posts. He has a way with words, and what is this "something special coming to Chapter 43 next week? hmmmm..............

Message: 17164 Posted: Sun May 27 15:34:16 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Oh, THAT Cinderella!

DUH! Yes, misogynistic is a very good way to describe Firefall's Cinderella. I thought you were talking about the Cinderella on Perspective -------------> harmless.

"And I knew it was love, if you know what I mean."

Message: 17163 Posted: Sun May 27 14:01:27 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Beach Therapy Needed

(C= (thanks)
"No Pill's Gonna Cure My Ill",,,,,,,lol


Message: 17162 Posted: Sun May 27 09:14:22 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: Vietnam and the Service Dogs

Johnny, no I was unaware about the Asians preferred main course of "roast dog under glass". Actually, what happened to them was that they cut their heads off and shipped the dogs remains back in a bag to the US camps to show "victory". I had left this gorey detail out as I found it unthinkable. It was an awful time..I'm glad your brother made it back too. And, yes, the National Guard is still very much a respectable branch of service and I am sure that they did (and do) still work very hard us. Hope everyone is having a great weekend!

Message: 17161 Posted: Sun May 27 08:29:49 2001 By: Michael Baratta
Subject: Atlantic City Concert

Went to the show in AC last night. It was incredible as usual. They played the long set,omitting Wed Morning,All My Life(UGH) & Calif Revisited.Wind Wave sounded especially good.They didn't come out & sign anything after the show (Both G & D had their families there). We did get to go out with Willie after the show & he says they're practicing some new(old)songs to add to the set. Also met a couple from this chat folder.All in all it was a very good night.Looking foward to July 4th in N.J.

Message: 17160 Posted: Sun May 27 07:50:44 2001 By: holiday
Subject: This 'n That: DanC & Andy/JohnL

DanC: Just a reply re the LRB song "Mistress Of Mine" - not at all bad
Mr.C - I spent a few dollars at my favourite vynil shop and now have "First Under The Wire" in original condition for around US$2. Love that shop and with Lonesome Loser, Cool Change and It's Not a Wonder as well, I can see why the album sold well in the States. I also like 'The Rumour' track.
Andy & John Lussier: Also found Al Stewart's "Time Passages" at the same time. Now this guy can write. I like all the tracks, and especially his lyrics. My favourite is still Time Passages:
"Well I'm not the kind to live in the past
The years run too short and the days too fast
The things you lean on are the things that don't last
Well it's just now and then my line gets cast
Into these Time Passages" ...... WOW

Message: 17159 Posted: Sun May 27 06:27:44 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Beach Therapy Needed

Agreed Beech - as usual, you have captured the moment beautifully.
I guess Dan, Beech and the Doc have found our carrots on the end of the stick. I hope everyone can too. I even got inspired to write some words here:

Simple Surf

With the sandman in my eye
I return to the simple shore
I look out to sea and wonder why
I want to be here more and more

East at my back
I feel on track
Sand under my feet
This feeling I must keep
Salt in the air
A life without care

Simple Surf
Best place on earth
A pristine ocean
A world in motion
It's having tidal telepathy
And it's Beach Therapy

It's a place to be happy.... and my prognosis is that this Board should be a place to be happy too, so everyone is prescribed another course of positive pills AND LOL LOL LOL LOL .............
The Doc is back.

Message: 17158 Posted: Sun May 27 05:06:59 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Chapter 42

I think EVERYONE needs a White Rose!!!!! (C= Heck, even if it's just a corner of a room, or a favorite comfy chair,,,,,,Dan just got lucky and found his on the coastline!!!!


Message: 17157 Posted: Sun May 27 04:34:11 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: STEVE L.........HELP!!!

Message to Lazlo: This is a polite and kind request to temper your posts on this chat folder. While you have had a few posts that are civil in nature, most of them are generally disruptive and very negative. While there's nothing wrong with being negative and disagreeing with others, I have to draw the line when personal attacks are made. If you want to post your negative feelings about America songs, etc., on this chat folder, go right ahead. But cease your personal attacks and offensive language toward others. Thanks. --Steve

Message: 17156 Posted: Sat May 26 19:35:59 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: STEVE L.........HELP!!!

Again, I am outraged by the disgusting language from this board.
Something has to be done or else! We're all adults here. Why do we have to stoop so low as to this language. I think you really should start banning people from this board. Alot of people that I have talk to in the past week refuse to participate because of this. I'm very outraged by this and will not tolerate this. Since you started this board, everybody has been civil, courteous and nice. But come on!!!!
Alot of people that I've talked are outraged and embarassed by this.

Message: 17155 Posted: Sat May 26 17:44:48 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Lazlo is puking again . . . .

First of all, I wasn't talking about Journey or a Journey record. I'm not a big Journey fan, including many of their hits on which Steve P. sings lead.

Secondly, I said "Cinderella" made me smile, not that I accepted the story line as reality. Nope -- don't believe in fairy tales but I can fondly remember when I did.

Thirdly, why are you so HOS-TILE? Maybe you and you-know-who's "girlfriend" should get together & burn me in effigy. Put my face on a dart board? Voodoo doll? Work it out my brother!

Message: 17154 Posted: Sat May 26 16:17:03 2001 By: Terry T.
Subject: I totally agree, Laz

...but only because "He who argues with a fool is the greater fool".

Message: 17153 Posted: Sat May 26 15:59:30 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Firefall

Strange Way is a song that "stinks to high heaven"? You gotta be joking...or listening to the wrong song.


Message: 17152 Posted: Sat May 26 15:30:24 2001 By: Lazlo
Subject: bite me, Ingrid

FROM INGRID'S REVIEW OF A STEVE PERRY RECORD: "Go Away is one of my favorite tracks, with astounding percussion and the anguish of lost love like only Steve can convey."

Excuse me while I vomit myself hollow. (Touchin', lovin', barfin'.)Lemme tell ya something, Ingrid-dahling: The reason I luv America is precisely because it's the musical antithesis to Journey's cosmic-soulful crappadelic heavyosity shtick. Journey has all the subtlety of a German jazz band. I hate them more than life itself.

FROM INGRID'S REVIEW OF FIREFALL'S GREATEST HITS: "Love That Got Away" is irresistible, with stunning and spirited flute accompaniment."

I can also vouch for that. And you're right about "Strange Way". (It stinks to high heaven.) "Cinderella" is a good tune, but the lyrics are shockingly brutal & misogynistic. Kiss kiss.

Message: 17151 Posted: Sat May 26 12:55:29 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Various responses / Outraged by Johnny


Inspiring Memorial Day stories everyone, thanks.

I know that I've discussed this before but when a vocal god is mentioned, and he also happens to be a member of my personal holy trinity (of voices). . . Johnny, if you don't have Steve Perry's 1998 GREATEST HITS + FIVE UNRELEASED, I'm confident you would like it. And since you're probably impatient to hear me talk about it some more :) you can go to it on and read my review -- I think I'm pretty objective for a worshipper. Steve's hardcore fans are begging and whining to him to do a solo tour, but I don't know if we've made any progress. He reigns.

Thanks for the instant concert reviews, they're really fun to read.

Message: 17150 Posted: Sat May 26 09:17:25 2001 By: HarryO
Subject: Re: Babylon.

David Gray is from England. Here's a bit of bio from his web page.

"David Gray was born in Manchester in 1970. By The time he was nine years old he had moved to Wales with his family where he was raised until he left to study at the University of Liverpool."

Message: 17149 Posted: Sat May 26 09:17:16 2001 By: HarryO
Subject: Re: Babylon.

David Gray is from England. Here's a bit of bio from his web page.

"David Gray was born in Manchester in 1970. By The time he was nine years old he had moved to Wales with his family where he was raised until he left to study at the University of Liverpool."

Message: 17148 Posted: Sat May 26 08:49:09 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: Positive Perspectives

Some other favourites of mine from each of the guys:
You turn night time into day
And you're the most
Brightest star that lights my way

From this day on I want to stay on
Now that I've started learning
And the tides started turning
Well, it's here I want to stay

Dewey: a place high above
The and me and our love share my life with you

Thanks for the Memorial Day stories - Down Under we have Anzac Day (April 25) to honour the thousands of Aussies and New Zealanders who died in Turkey in 1915 in a hopeless attempt to take a rocky coastal fort. Although futile, like all wars, it was still an heroic attempt at the impossible symbolising the indomitable human spirit. My dad fought in WWII and I have marched with him in our Anzac Day parades Down Under with great pride, not for war, but for the way, for many of us, our folks put it all on the line for freedom.

Message: 17147 Posted: Sat May 26 07:26:34 2001 By: msmith
Subject: rambling...

nina, i loved your story. happy lyrics--i agree with robyn, the opening rift to 'riverside', and i'm always happiest at an america concert listening to the boys do 'woman tonight' they have so much fun with that song..."i get the shivers up and down my spine, the only time i'm happy's when i know she's mine"... more lyrics "just a little of nothin', that's all you had the time to give, just a little of nothin' ain't gunna make it worthwhile for me"...have an america weekend everyone :-)

Message: 17146 Posted: Sat May 26 07:10:31 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Viet Nam/ NYC Show

"He went the National Guard route which probably didn't please others in the other branches of the military but our family was glad."

Not that I served in Viet Nam (fetuses make for poor fighters), but being in the National Guard is nothing to be ashamed of. As I understand it, people in that branch actually DID serve in Viet Nam and did occasionally give up their life for this country. Some would argue that the losses weren't anywhere near the level that the other branches of the military experienced. True. However, to those folks I'd ask: What should the mortality rate been to make serving in the National Guard an honourable endevour?

Switching subjects......... I forgot to mention that last night's NYC show at B.B King's was the first time that I saw Mike "Mr. Mom" Woods since he was out on paternity leave. Welcome back, Mike!!


Message: 17145 Posted: Sat May 26 06:39:02 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Viet Nam and The Service Dogs

O-H (point taken)


Message: 17144 Posted: Fri May 25 22:48:34 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Viet Nam and The Service Dogs

Janice, glad to hear your brother made it back. I was worried about my brother being Asian in a war against Asians if you all know what I mean. He went the National Guard route which probably didn't please others in the other branches of the military but our family was glad.

Regarding those service dogs that didn't make it back from Viet Nam, hmmm???? Let me be the first to say this so no one else will: You know they eat dogs in the Orient, don't you? You all don't suppose those missing service dogs.......

(All this talk reminds me of Dewey's "Sandman" and Gerry's "1960")

Message: 17143 Posted: Fri May 25 22:09:15 2001 By: Janice
Subject: Happy Memorial Weekend!

I want to wish everyone a great long weekend..(I'm hoping my time off will come to an end soon as it has been tough to put the skids
Back to Memorial Day..I watched a really neat show tonight on Animal Planet that gives tribute to the dogs who fought in Vietnam...a few fast facts..1)4,500 dogs went to Vietnam 2) unfortunately only 450 returned 3) they saved the lives of over 10,000 US servicemen! My brother served there in 1968-1969 (Marines)and we were blessed by his return to us. Not one of his friends that went over with him made it back. Let us each remember those servicemen who were not as lucky and 'bout those wonderful dogs?????
Have a great weekend, wherever you are. :-) Janice

Message: 17142 Posted: Fri May 25 20:53:48 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Tonight's NYC show at B.B. King's

I took the train in from Oceanside, the thought of NYC traffic just gave me the creeps.
B.B. King's is a fine place to see a show. This was as close as I've ever sat towards the stage (I could have used the stage as an elbow rest). Since there were two shows, we were treated to the "short set", meaning songs like Wednesday Morning, Pages, and Things We Said Today were not played. The sound was fine from where I was sitting (just slightly to Dewey's right).
Some random observations from sitting so close: I never fully appreciated Dewey's delicate picking on songs such as Daisy Jane. I never noticed that Dewey occasionally plays a Dmaj7 chord with his ring finger (Three Roses). Needless to say, all band members were in fine form. I couldn't stay for the second show..."I had a ticket waiting, I had to catch that train..."

Maureen-- where did you end up sitting? Did you stay for the second show? Was the set list any different the second time? I will see the band one week from today in Westbury, New York. Who's going to the Westbury show?


Message: 17141 Posted: Fri May 25 20:34:08 2001 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Babylon

Spurs, that would be David Gray. Getting a lot of air play in the states, at least he is here in California. He played here in San Diego last weekend and the write ups were very good.
Have a safe weekend, everyone.
ShariL <><

Message: 17140 Posted: Fri May 25 18:16:30 2001 By: Spurs
Subject: Babylon.

Hello everyone,there's a tune out at the moment called "Babylon" has light percussion running through it,but toward the end a "Ventura Highway" riffathon,not sure who the artist is but he is American.

Message: 17139 Posted: Fri May 25 17:59:19 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: America Lyrics and Other Things

America lyrics: "No fortune pays for wounds like these". Oh yeah, I can relate to that!

Regarding Martha Stewart, "Luscious Martha"? Nah! It don't jive. Way too conservative for Lazlo! Joan Jett or Lita Ford strikes me as Laz's type.

Anyone purchase Journey's new CD, "Arrival"? If so, what do you think about Steve Augeri and his vocals as Steve Perry's replacement. I think Steve #2 does a tremendous sound-alike job but on the ballads, he doesn't seem to have Perry's vocal range in my opinion. It's an excellent CD if you're a Journey fan. Steve Perry must feel really left out. Poor guy. I think it's time for him to put out a solo CD to show 'em why he made Journey who they are.

Message: 17138 Posted: Fri May 25 17:07:00 2001 By: Angie
Subject: Just surfing.

Just surfing around music web sites and found America's Hope video. Too bad they didn't make anymore.Have a good Memorial Day weekend.

Message: 17137 Posted: Fri May 25 16:41:10 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: America lyrics.

If this is any indication....

My scrolling marquee screensaver at work currently reads " I can't unread the pages I've already read" ( Thanks Gerry-you should see the Librarian's reactions!)

It replaces last weeks "Ventura Highway...In the sunshine"

Message: 17136 Posted: Fri May 25 16:08:23 2001 By: Terry T.
Subject: Re: America lyrics.

Living on the riverside taking it all in my stride
Living on the riverside, I'm taking life like a big long ride
You stay on your side and I'll stay on mine
You take what you want and I'll take the sunshine

Message: 17135 Posted: Fri May 25 15:41:36 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: Martha Stewart

great idea Ingrid!...Martha is great at makeovers....which some of us can use now and then.........

Message: 17134 Posted: Fri May 25 14:30:24 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Just a suggestion for Lazlo

Martha Stewart is available now!

Message: 17133 Posted: Fri May 25 14:13:49 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Memorial Day

VERY cool, Nina! I'm sorry to hear the week hasn't gotten any better, but I wish I'd had YOU as a teacher!!!!!
I have a step-Grandpa that was a courier on the frontlines of D-Day and he has a passle load of stories that he just WASN'T going to share until one day my younger cousin (the Beatlephanatic) pried open the window,,,,,,,,,,it was wonderful for all of us! The Greatest Generation has my total respect and admiration! AND how TRUE about this generation. They DO step up! (C=


Message: 17132 Posted: Fri May 25 14:11:56 2001 By: Alan
Subject: Another BNL/America connection?

As some of you may remember, a while back I posted a question on the board to all America fans who also happen to be fans of Barenaked Ladies (the band, not women sans clothes). I had made an observation about the similariites b/w the guitar solos at the end of Only In Your Heart and Pinch Me. I felt there was definitely some America influence going on there because the playing styles were the same, they were both at the end of the song (after a false ending), and both seemed to be using the same effects. A number of people responded, confirming that it was not just my imagination. One poster (I can't remember exactly who, I'd have to go back through the archives) was kind enough to explain HOW America/BNL produced that sound.

Well, I think I have found another America-influenced BNL song. It came to me out of the blue this morning when I had the song "The Old Apartment" going through my head as I got ready for work. Somewhere along the line - I'm not even sure exactly when - I realized that it had somehow morphed into "Hangover". The more I thought about it, the more I realized how much they seem to have in common. I had never made that connection before.

Any other BNL fans have an opinion? Am I reaching or am I on to something?

Message: 17131 Posted: Fri May 25 13:29:29 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: Betty Who?

..lazlo.......want some punch to go with that cake?

Message: 17130 Posted: Fri May 25 13:15:54 2001 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: Memorial Day

Loved your Memorial Day story Nina. It touched me. It's great when we can connect with both the generation ahead of us and the one behind at the same time. Thanks for sharing it.

I'm reminded of two songs.

"Cats in the cradle" &

“Nineteen years had come and gone
Little Jimmy had grown up big and strong
He didn't know that his time had come
When they handed him a shiny black gun

So his pa said, run, run, run, run, run, run (Jim you gotta get away)”

I sure apprecaite the fact your father and others stood to fight for my freedom and did'nt run, run, run,.

Message: 17129 Posted: Fri May 25 13:14:20 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Unrequited

Laz, bummer dude about your "unrequited love for Betty Crocker" but that's the way the cookie crumbles. Been there.

Message: 17128 Posted: Fri May 25 11:57:40 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Memorial Day

THAT IS SO COOL NINA! Sometimes kids can really rise to the occassion. Neat, I think both the kids and your dad got something out of it. This morning I was re-reading the peom by John MacCrae, a WWI doctor, "In Flanders Fields the poppies blow..." still a moving piece, almost 90 years later.

Enjoy the weekend!

Message: 17127 Posted: Fri May 25 11:23:19 2001 By: Nina
Subject: Memorial Day

Happy L-O-N-G Memorial Day week-end to everybody! My week has NOT gotten any better, but I must share one high point with you all...for what it's worth.

For two weeks, I've been laboring over having my students write essays entitled "What Memorial Day Means to Me". (Administration makes us do it at this time every year) Today's kids are so removed from knowledge about "the wars" and "veterans" that the essays were a disaster. So, I brought in a 19 yr. old former student,who is now a marine, to speak to the class. They listened, but all in all, major enlightening did not take place. Then, I mentioned it to my 77 yr. old father...(veteran of WWII...Battle of the Bulge...four other batles to his credit) and he offered to come in. I almost didn't let him, but am glad I did. In he came, carrying his musty old war souvenirs...including a Nazi flag signed by all the soldiers in his company over sixty years ago...and the kids LOVED every minute of it. He fielded questions like a pro, successfully steering away from events he thought the kids couldn't handle...but mentioning in detail his impressions of the day his company liberated Buchanwald concentration camp, a fact that even I had not known! The kids applauded him at the end of his talk and he teared up a bit. One student brought in a little American flag today, and everybody signed it for him...just as his comrades had signed the German one years ago.

Guess I'll NOT doubt my dad...or my students again!


Message: 17126 Posted: Fri May 25 09:28:51 2001 By: Lazlo
Subject: boing boing

BEECHLADY SAID: "I guess for the truly 'happy' vein I'd have to say 'Sister Golden Hair', because it's bouncy and it's the one I hear the most in strange places."

Now *there's* a weird reaction. "Sister Golden Hair" doesn't strike me as being the least bit happiness-inducing. Rather, it reeks of a sort of yearning melancholia. But maybe that's only because I can't help but associate that tune with my own tragic unrequited love for Betty Crocker.

Message: 17125 Posted: Fri May 25 08:28:48 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Positive Perspectives

The following can lift my spirits and turn around a bad mood more quickly than anything else:

The opening rift to Ventura Highway
THe guitars at the begiining of Riverside

The lyrics of "Hope"

Just to name a few.....

Message: 17124 Posted: Fri May 25 08:24:26 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: "Hideaway" Songbook Photos

Thanks Steve, (I found those on my own but didn't see the pictures Johnny alluded to.)

Message: 17123 Posted: Fri May 25 08:07:22 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: "Hideaway" Songbook Photos

Robyn, here is a link to the Hideaway songbook photos. FYI, here is a page with links to all of the songbook photos.

Message: 17122 Posted: Fri May 25 06:21:35 2001 By: Maureen
Subject: Andy & BB Kings

Hi Andy,
I will be there w/a few friends of mine. Its first come, first serve for a table (I was there last year-they changed the rules-no reservations) See you later ! What time are you getting there at?

Message: 17121 Posted: Fri May 25 06:20:23 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: America lyrics.

"Don't let the features you read control the tickets you buy
Soon as you learn how to live you're just beginning to die."

"Just a little of nothing is all you had the time to give."

"I'd like to take you but I don't think there's room for two"

"Hit it."


Message: 17120 Posted: Fri May 25 05:54:55 2001 By: Mark
Subject: 1972 - America get's its due!

This may be old news, but I just watched Behind the Music - 1972 last night and was pleased with the fact that they seemed to give America its just recognition. During the opening they showed clips of the Veitnam war with Horse With No Name playing in the background. During the show they showed a quick clip of Dewey (from the Musicladen video) and several times they showed a pile of albums, which had Homecoming in it. Then they even mentioned America in the same breath as the Eagles and Steely Dan when they talked about new artists who went on to become stars. Nice to see America finally get a little respect.

Now as far as the gist of the 1972 BTM, talk about revisionist history! The whole show was focused around Veitnam mainly because 1972 was the last year that the US was directly involved in Veitnam. But they made the assertion that Nixon had pulled the troops out just to try to take the "war issue" away from McGovern. The fact is that the war worked in Nixon's favor, because most of the public didn't support McGovern's stand on the war. Lesson learned: kids don't believe every thing you see on TV. Remember these are the same people who pumped up that 70's "superstar" Lief Garret.

Message: 17119 Posted: Thu May 24 22:10:12 2001 By: mBluLight
Subject: Re: Positive Perspectives

during a particularly trying time recently somebody bestowed those exact words upon me... and it really made a huge difference. it's so easy to just whine. it 's so much better to go and do something with it...


Message: 17118 Posted: Thu May 24 21:03:24 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re:positive perspectives

had to jump in on this one...mine are:

There will be no more confusion
There will be no more ball and chain
I will cease with the illusions
And I will ask of you the same
When you love someone
It's gonna take some time
Give the kiss, give the kiss of life
Give the kiss, give the kiss of life


So follow the path through the knowing trees
And each time you laugh, it is love you release
That love will come back in the garden of peace


He said now young man
Take good care don't let the bugs bite
Please make sure to say a word at night
For all your brothers feeling blue
Blue, blue, blue
All the time

Probably my most uplifting memory of an America song was my friend and I hiking out from a week in the backcountry of Lake Tahoo (desolation wilderness area), we couldn't wait to get back to a cheesburger and a milk shake.....we sang "Hold me tight" on the trail all kept our spirts high as we trudged down the trail...."

Message: 17117 Posted: Thu May 24 16:53:43 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Oops!

Sorry about that :( Didn't mean to give you a two-for-one special. Steve, please feel free to un-post #2 and #3.


Message: 17116 Posted: Thu May 24 16:46:34 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Re: Positive Perspectives

Chris -- good question. I like surverys -- I LOVE my opinions! :)
First, a P.S. to the "Less Dan, More Dewey" thing: Nothing against Dan Peek except for "Lonely People," and IMO he redeemed himself for that depressing song when he wrote "All Things Are Possible." Now THAT is an encouraging song. [Yes, I know the words to "Lonely People" were supposed to be encouraging; the song just doesn't work for me. I won't bring it up again.]

Favorite uplifting lyrics from Dewey and Gerry:

From "Cornwall Blank"
I've been down to the water
I've been on top of the world
Somebody should come and see me
Somebody should give me the word 'cause
I don't know how many more, I don't know how many more
I don't know how many more to see

I hear this as a moment of clarity that precedes positive change -- "This isn't working -- I've got to start doing things differently to get better results in my life."

From "Only In Your Heart"
Wake up from an elusive dream, You've got to change the scene
It's getting so hard to see to the end
Break down all of the walls you can, You need a helping hand
I'm sure there's someone there just for you
He's trying to make it too

and all of "Young Moon" :) This was tough; I'm proud of myself for limiting it to three songs.

LONG HAIR ||| and LONG WINDED ==============

Message: 17115 Posted: Thu May 24 16:40:14 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Re: Positive Perspectives

Chris -- good question. I like surverys -- I LOVE my opinions! :)
First, a P.S. to the "Less Dan, More Dewey" thing: Nothing against Dan Peek except for "Lonely People," and IMO he redeemed himself for that depressing song when he wrote "All Things Are Possible." Now THAT is an encouraging song. [Yes, I know the words to "Lonely People" were supposed to be encouraging; the song just doesn't work for me. I won't bring it up again.]

Favorite uplifting lyrics from Dewey and Gerry:

From "Cornwall Blank"
I've been down to the water
I've been on top of the world
Somebody should come and see me
Somebody should give me the word 'cause
I don't know how many more, I don't know how many more
I don't know how many more to see

I hear this as a moment of clarity that precedes positive change -- "This isn't working -- I've got to start doing things differently to get better results in my life."

From "Only In Your Heart"
Wake up from an elusive dream, You've got to change the scene
It's getting so hard to see to the end
Break down all of the walls you can, You need a helping hand
I'm sure there's someone there just for you
He's trying to make it too

and all of "Young Moon" :) This was tough; I'm proud of myself for limiting it to three songs.

LONG HAIR ||| and LONG WINDED ==============

Message: 17114 Posted: Thu May 24 16:31:10 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: "Hideaway" Songbook Photos

Are these photos anywhere we can see them?

Message: 17113 Posted: Thu May 24 15:29:06 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: "Hideaway" Songbook Photos

Yeah, I got quite a 15 year old kick out of that when I bought it myself (1975)...lololol......some of the pictures in those song books I didn't scan in (and hence send to Steve) cuz they were dups from the album, I hope that's OK...(C= All in all the piano/guitar books were really quite nicely put together! I enjoy them!

TkH<-----+=! wishing for the Harbor book-sigh

Message: 17112 Posted: Thu May 24 14:27:15 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: New York City Tomorrow

Who's going to see the show in the City tomorrow?


Message: 17111 Posted: Thu May 24 14:26:30 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: "Hideaway" Songbook Photos

I had never seen the contents of the "Hideaway" songbook until today. I especially like two colored photos in it. One is of the trio with Dewey tossing a snowball up in the air. The other one is with Dewey smiling as he's standing next to a snow man. Well, I really should say a snow woman because of her very evident upper "software".

Message: 17110 Posted: Thu May 24 13:36:50 2001 By: RichM
Subject: Reno

I was planning on going to Reno. Although I haven't bought any tickets yet.


Message: 17109 Posted: Thu May 24 12:12:38 2001 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Happy Memorial Day

I hope everyone has a safe and happy weekend! I'm going to the beach (Lake Tahoe) and I'm going to play Hourglass REALLY loud. Van Go Gan too. So who's coming to Reno this summer???

Erin :o)

Message: 17108 Posted: Thu May 24 11:40:28 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Positive Perspectives

"time for a beer run"

Just came to mind, sitting here in the heat, wishing I was at home on the lawn.
Tom T , if you are lurking out there somewhere, contact me. Just got a new cd you may be interested in a copy of.

Message: 17107 Posted: Thu May 24 09:32:49 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Positive Perspectives in Peculiar Places

Hmmmmm. Requires massive thought.........HMMMMMMMMMM........I dunno if it counts as "happy" or not, but the first time I heard "Miniature" I was floored (in a round about, 14-year-old sort of way)! That song helped me on my way to making instrumentals! (Thanks you Mr. GB!) I guess for the truely "happy" vein I'd have to say Sister Golden Hair, because it's bouncy and it's the one I hear the most in strange places!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TkH<---------+=! Boing, boing

Message: 17106 Posted: Thu May 24 08:25:44 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Positive Perspectives

Memorial Day is the day we honor those who fought for our freedom and remeber those who gave their lives for it. We also celebrate Veteran's Day in November. For most of us, it means a three day weekend and a barbecue or a trip to the beach. I hope all of us will take a moment to reflect on what this day really means

RMP<----- Climbing down OFF my soapbox

Message: 17105 Posted: Thu May 24 07:52:09 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Positive Perspectives

You'll have to explain what Memorial Day is for me Beech - aussie ignoramus here. Of course, I hope it's happy.
I was thinking about this positive thing and it struck me that it is (one of) the reasons I like America's music. So what song line has lifted you the most from the guys? There are many for me - try and limit yourself to one........there are too many....
I'll start with Baby It's Up To You 'cause it's from Holiday! I always thought that this song should have been a big hit as Gerry was starting to head towards his SGH sound. I like the opening lines....
"Time to make a change
Time to rearrange
Sooner or later
It's somethin' you gotta do"

I heard a saying today:
Experience is not what happens to you
It is what you do with what happens to you

Reminded me of Baby It's Up To You.....
So over to you...any others?

Message: 17104 Posted: Thu May 24 04:24:22 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Happy Memorial Day

If I don't get to it, everyone have a SAFE and HAPPY Memorial Day Weekend!

TkH<-----+=! "...wind it up, Baby!"

Message: 17103 Posted: Thu May 24 04:21:53 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: New Lyrics

Yeah, I've always love the "alternative" lyrics that I come across on the import liners!!!!!! The Chinese versions inside "Highway" are hilarious, but they don't seem to have cornered the market......The Japanese are also "A" class manglers...lololol

TkH<------+=! Mangles a couple herself!

Message: 17102 Posted: Thu May 24 04:08:08 2001 By: cfhere
Subject: Re: Atlantic City


I'll be at the Saturday night show in Atlantic City. I saw them last October also at Trump Plaza. If this show is as good as then we have a lot to look forward to. By the way, I was lucky enough to go backstage after the concert and get autographs and pictures. I've seen them in concert about 40 times, but the person I'm taking has never seen them. It's going to be a real treat. See you there!


Message: 17101 Posted: Wed May 23 23:15:55 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Hat Trick for 2001--and Chat reminder

Just guessing here, but I would hope they would re-release a new remastered version with some tasty alternative mixes ( like the one of Submarine Ladies that can be found on Highway) The only cd available now is ok, it comes from Germany with a REALLY interesting set of lyrics --Hat Trick supposedly begins "OOH can I make it moan" and Continues to say "then I saw that you were dancing in a rented gown" Darned amusing if you ask me!

Message: 17100 Posted: Wed May 23 18:07:12 2001 By: Michael Baratta
Subject: Atlantic City

Anyone from this board heading for A.C. this weekend ? I'll be there Sat.with the usual crew. Looking foward to seeing "our boys". The A.C. shows are usually pretty good.(but aren't they all good)

Message: 17099 Posted: Wed May 23 17:30:00 2001 By: Angie
Subject: Re: Hat Trick for 2001--and Chat reminder

But what would Rhino put it out as? A single release or on a CD with other unreleased tracks, like the one that is from Human Nature.

Message: 17098 Posted: Wed May 23 16:22:08 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Hat Trick for 2001--and Chat reminder

Angie, there was talk of a Rhino re-mix. Anyone know anything more? Also everyone is invited to join me in the chat room this evening after 7 pm West Coast time! Hope to see you there.

Message: 17097 Posted: Wed May 23 15:27:08 2001 By: Angie
Subject: Hat Trick for 2001

It would be great for Hat Trick to be released again.Give it to another generation of fans. Can we get a vote? Or is there another song choice? How about suggestions.

Message: 17096 Posted: Wed May 23 15:22:41 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Here's a thought-Alan

DON'T go back to lurkdom! I enjoyed the post!!!!!
As for those "books" I have a little "metal-head" myself, but I'm not letting her get anything else pierced (the ears grew back from neglect..rofl) until she's OUT OF THE HOUSE......she wants crimson streaks in her blonde hair,,,,,,we'll have to see. She's a straight A student in the gifted class that doesn't do drugs. So I KNOW of the appearance thing! (C= What the heck. I remember what I was like at that age!!!! (yikes) She even likes Duran! WOW!


Message: 17095 Posted: Wed May 23 13:54:11 2001 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Here's a thought - correction

In my last post I meant to say that for the most part THE MUSIC of the 80's sucked NOT the 80's themselves.

There's something to be said for proof-reading your message BEFORE you post it!

ASC <----------- NOW, back to lurkdom - REALLY!

Message: 17094 Posted: Wed May 23 13:49:35 2001 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Here's a thought

Hey Beech,

Speaking of people living "out of their era", here's a few examples.

My oldest daughter Tamara literally CAN'T STAND any of today's music. She's 16 years old and has embraced the music of HER PARENTS! Especially America, Dan Fogelberg, Jackson Browne and Gordon Lightfoot. I even like some of today's music that she hates!

My brother-in-law, Danny is 22. He is mostly into heavy metal, but has embraced the hm bands of the late 70's and 80's. Metallica is his favorite band. He has no use for the 90's heavy metal that he "grew up with" and all his friends like, such as Korn, Kid Rock, etc. He is going to college and majoring in music and has recently expanded his musical tastes to include classical, jazz and blues. I have recently turned him on to America and now he LOVES THEM! He has promised to come with us the next time we go see them. (It was going to be June 9th in Boston 'til I found out that's the day my oldest son graduates from high school. THE NERVE of the school to schedule graduation the same day as an America show so close to home - relatively speaking, of course).

My wife, oldest daughter and I went to see Gordon Lightfoot 5-6 years ago. I was seated by a kid w/ spiked hair, earrings and various other parts of his anatomy pierced. I must say he looked quite out of place at a GL concert. During the intermission, I struck up a conversation with him (actually HE initiated it). He told me that he was there w/ his folks, but they had got front-row seats. He grew up in the 80's and felt that it for the most part - well, sucked (sorry, Beech, but I feel very much the same way about the 80's). I found out he liked a lot of the same bands and artists that I did. Turned out to be a really nice kid. Like the old saying goes, don't judge a book by its cover.

Anyway, I hope I haven't bored too many people w/ my long-winded post. I always read the chat folder but seldom post, so when I do I usually get long-winded to make up for lost time.

ASC <----------- Back to lurkdom

Message: 17093 Posted: Wed May 23 13:24:53 2001 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Here's a thought

Based on musical merit, I think Hat Trick and the first album should be big sellers if re-released today (especially with some previously unreleased bonus tracks). However, musical merit has very little to do with the music industry. To be noticed, they would need the backing of a major label and associated promotional campaign. Lacking this, they will remain undiscovered treasures for all except the faithful America fans.

Message: 17092 Posted: Wed May 23 13:18:04 2001 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Band Hunt

Hey, they used a bio I wrote! I don't even remember submitting it.

Message: 17091 Posted: Wed May 23 12:57:27 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Re: Oddities

Beech, I've always liked the rain so today I'll trade you your rain for our 103 degress -- yep, it's a record.

I'm so sorry Nina! That's terrible. I'm taking twenty 4th, 5th and 6th graders on a field trip on Friday. We will be collecting duck eggs from one of our grain fields before it's harvested -- "Egg Aid 2001." I hope your class still gets to go. BTW, I wasn't on the chat folder then, but I was very impressed by your quilts -- what a labor of love.

"... hey, but the heat is free . . . in this hot town"

Message: 17090 Posted: Wed May 23 12:03:37 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Oddities

Must be the full moon? The high tides? Jostling of tectic plates that accidently crossed ley lines? Those just HAVE to be what's causing all the oddness right now. It's RAINING IN FLORIDA for heaven's sake (finally!!!)

Nina, did the school have insurance to cover that monitary loss? It's clear that sometimes people can just SUCK.....I just hope that you/kids can go that field trip anyway.....

Jim and John, eGADS. Now I REALLY don't like transacting over the net no matter how "secure". I'm an "occasional" "eBuyer", but have been VERY wary since an "incident" last year....It doesn't help that the sister-in-law prosecutes internet crimes and I HEAR ALL ABOUT the perps...ugh.

Johnny and Robyn? AMEN. Spell checking is next to Godliness I always say (rofl)!!!!


I forget anyone? If so, muy apologitico! (lol)

TkH<------+=! Drizzle, Drazzle-drazzle, Drumm......

Message: 17089 Posted: Wed May 23 11:19:34 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Ashamed!

No, first check for spelling and grammatical errors THEN delete!

Message: 17088 Posted: Wed May 23 11:09:05 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Ashamed!

Well Robyn, if you do get flamed, merely do what you told me. Hit "delete".

Message: 17087 Posted: Wed May 23 10:58:24 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: A&B Sound credit card number theft

Jim, I was also affected. I had an order in that was still open as they were waiting for one backorder come in. No one had accessed my card but I still had to cancel it. Not a big deal, just a bit of an inconvenience. It's really too bad because I know A & B will lose customers over this and they are great business to deal with, both on-line and their retail outlets in the area.

Message: 17086 Posted: Wed May 23 10:44:21 2001 By: Yng Moon
Subject: Re: "The Today Show & SGH

Yes David,

But that was the year she (Katy), went back to and it was a song she related to then.

Message: 17085 Posted: Wed May 23 10:21:09 2001 By: Lazlo
Subject: synth versus organic

STEPHEN THOMAS ERLEWINE ON *PERSPECTIVE*: "Like many soft rock and adult contemporary groups in the early 1980s, America began to experiment with synthesizers and drum machines---after all, this was a cheaper way of making records, especially compared to the 70s method of recruiting the most expensive studio musicians available. They had begun to experiment with synths on YOUR MOVE, but only slightly; the album still had several numbers that were more or less organic. With PERSPECTIVE, the band adapted to the 80s-style of production, relying almost entirely on synthesized arrangements and programmed reasons. This method of making records would eventually cripple adult contemporary, making it sound way too slick and soulless. But here, the synths were simple enough to sound organic and there were other instruments that allowed them to breathe, plus the natural harmonies of Gerry Beckley and Dewey Bunnell. Plus, in retrospect, there was something charming about these early stiff drum machines. All of this makes PERSPECTIVE sound like a period piece, which it is...Pop culture anthropologists looking for a synthesized soft-rock artifact from 70s veterans losing their way in 1984, just as the genre was disappearing from the Top 40, should be intrigued by this endearingly mediocre effort."

Message: 17084 Posted: Wed May 23 09:02:36 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Ashamed!

AMEN HOWIE! ( now I suppose I will get flamed)

Message: 17083 Posted: Wed May 23 08:28:51 2001 By: Jim Riccioli
Subject: A&B Sound credit card number theft

Hi everyone,

Some unsettling news that hopefully affects no one else on this list -- other than me. A&B Sound has informed its online customers that their credit card numbers may have been stolen as a result of a security breach of their online store May 18.

A&B Sound was one of the dealers listed on the America Fans website for those of us looking for America CDs. The dealer was also recommended as a source in at least one chat folder posting some time ago. I used them in October 1999 to purchase America "Harbor" and "Live" as a result. The price was especially good against the exchange rate (A&B is based in Vancouver, Canada), so I was happy to find this dealer as a source for hard-to-find CDs.

However, on May 21, I discovered an e-mail from A&B Sound informing me of the security breach. At first, they said the only cards affected were for open, unprocessed orders (which didn't apply to me), but they later updated the information to say that other card numbers may have been compromised.They recommended that I contact my credit card company to cancel the card as a precaution. I did so this morning.

Two matters of importance here.

First, if you have bought from A&B Sound but you have changed your e-mail address since that time, you may want to contact A&B to see whether you were affected. Obviously, A&B couldn't contact you if they didn't have your current e-mail address (the one tied to your original order).

Second, if you are unsure which card you used (as I was) and you don't have the paperwork anymore, contact the card issuers of the credit cards you most likely used. They can load the records into their computer within a day and confirm whether you placed an order with A&B Sound. If you did, you'll probably want to cancel that credit card account and get a new card issued.

This security breaches aren't common, but hackers have been known to break into such financial information for various dealers in recent years. Sometimes, the stolen information is sold in a black market operation. While you wouldn't be responsible for fraudalent charges ultimately, you wouldn't want to suddenly face a four-figure unauthorized charge on your account and have to deal with the process at that point.

Again, I hope I am the only person from this list affected by this. Since I haven't read the list for the past three weeks (I'm fighting lingering vertigo again following a flight in late April), I wasn't sure if someone else had already posted this information.

For official information, refer to this web site:

Jim R.

Message: 17082 Posted: Wed May 23 08:17:52 2001 By: Nina
Subject: On...and off topic

Off topic: Have had three bad days in a row...and I guess I'm hoping if I "share" (vent is more like it)....maybe I won't have a fourth tomorrow! Our school furnace caught fire over the week-end (no real damage) causing school to be cancelled on Monday ...which "could" have been a "good" thing, but the cleaning agency that was called in to clean soot in classrooms took a little more with them than soot. We are missing almost two hundred dollars of field trip money ! I walked into my room on Tuesday morning and everything was topsy turvey supposedly due to massive cleaning. Folders were ripped open, files gone through, and cash and checks ripped from envelopes. Sad, very sad. What kind of people do this to children?

In addition to school woes, I'm afraid I'm getting absolutely nowhere with the Colonial Theater up in Keene, NH. America is coming to perform in October and they refuse to sell me tickets until after Labor Day. Even though I told them I'm buying for a zillion people- (FINALLY my friends and family want to come to an America show!)-the box office won't budge. Oh, of course, if I buy a fifty dollar MEMBERSHIP to the theater I can purchase TWO tickets after June 1st???

God, give me strength! (So anybody I promised to buy tickets for on this chat folder...I'm sorry...but it looks like you are on your own!)

Message: 17081 Posted: Wed May 23 07:54:40 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: LRB Post Script

Agreed Mike B - I have gained a stronger appreciation of LRB's music since I bought that double CD set last week! I can tell you that Glenn Shorrock tried for many years, prior to LRB, to break into the big time UK or US markets. With Axiom, he brought out a song called "Arkansas Grass" - a blatant pitch for US acceptance, which he finally achieved once he teamed up with Goble and Birtles. Great songs remain in our memory and I remember a great many of LRB's.
Oh, thanks to Beech (no more wind, unless it's a windwave), red oak, Ingrid, ANDY and anyone else I missed for posting replies to my LRB query. Keep posting positive vibes all - it's contagious when we are nice to each other!

Message: 17080 Posted: Wed May 23 07:34:18 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Band Hunt

A link to the America Fans web site has been added to the America page on the Band Hunt web site. You can see it by going to The new link is the 3rd one down on the left side of the page. You can vote for the America Fans web site while you're there.

Message: 17079 Posted: Wed May 23 05:50:31 2001 By: Mike B
Subject: LRB Reflection

Listened to the LRB Greatest hits last night. My reaction, I didn't know all those songs were from the Little River Band. Same reaction I get from people that listen to "History - Americas Greatest Hits" for the first time. I missed LRBs rise to fame. After Dan left America, I gave up on music and went off to save the world. Still I recognized most of LRBs Hits, even though they came out during 1977-1981. I was in Europe most of those years, without a radio.

Message: 17078 Posted: Wed May 23 05:43:19 2001 By: msmith
Subject: howie post #17068

this being an open forum i would like to go on record as concurring with howie's post. 'lonely people' isn't my favorite america song, although i do like it. dan's contributions to the group are significant and cannot be dismissed. after all, HAT TRICK probably never would have been without dan :-).

Message: 17077 Posted: Wed May 23 05:29:49 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Here's a thought

I post this after watching SO many people live "out of their era". For instance? My 33 year old cousin, who is a Beatlephanatic, was BORN in '68 (one year before their untimely "demise"). My daughter LOVES '70's/80's metal (she's vintage '87). I always LOVED Big Band music growing up (and Handel, I'm vintage '60, and not the '40's or I suppose you could attribute it to kids latching on to good music......BUT it's food for thought at any rate!


Message: 17076 Posted: Wed May 23 05:23:09 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Here's a thought

Hmmmmm. Ponder this....
How do you think Hat Trick would have fared in a different era? (I chose this album because it's my obvious fav) If re-released with much "fan"fare in this era, I wonder how it would rate? I'm betting HUGE.......I'll bet the first album would also make some waves (again)...


Message: 17075 Posted: Tue May 22 23:34:18 2001 By: Joe B
Subject: Re: LRB

Hey You People,

I had the pleasure of having Little River Band perform live in the studio when I was at WGN radio a few years back. Great guys, very funny, tremendously talented. They did an amazing acoustic set. My contribution was providing the drummer with an empty plastic water jug to use as a percussion instrument. (I stole the idea from the beginning of the Brian Wilson song "Caroline, No". On that track, Hal Blaine (America-connected) used the water bottle trick for the intro.) Along with the hits, they played an awesome song called "I Dream Alone". It's on the LRB 2 disc collection - CHECK IT OUT!

Joe B

P.S. 2 Chicagoland shows this year - wow! - especially after last year's shutout.
P.P.S. Jeff Larson still rules!
P.P.P.S. Cubs - Whoo!

Message: 17074 Posted: Tue May 22 22:36:07 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: The NYC show Friday

Who's going to the show at B.B King's this Friday in New York? I will battle New York's worst traffic for a great cause: Seeing America.


Message: 17073 Posted: Tue May 22 22:01:26 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: America/Dido/bubbles

Okay here's what happens when small minds have too much time on their hands. What you ask do America and Dido have in common, other than the fact that I adore them both, and will see both this summer? Why it's bubbles, of course!! Those of you that are fortunate to have Dido's fantastic CD "No Angel", go to the end of track 6, the song "Thank You". Yes, that's the one that's been played to death on the radio. Anyway, she throws in all sorts of weird sound effects at the end, most notably, bubbles. Don't listen for it on the radio because the song gets cut off long before the sound effects. Oh well. It's isn't exactly Submarine Ladies, but at least they have something in common :O)

Andy <------With much too much time on his hands.

Message: 17072 Posted: Tue May 22 21:03:34 2001 By: David Perkins
Subject: Another Janet Jackson ripoff of America

What about the first few bars of "Let's Wait Awhile". Sounds an awful lot like "Daisy Jane", doncha think?

Message: 17071 Posted: Tue May 22 20:48:51 2001 By: David Perkins
Subject: Turning the corner, perhaps

With the Little River Band, Whiskeytown, and Timothy B. Schmit releasing new CD's, maybe, just maybe, the "soft rock" sound may be returning after nearly 20 years of being bombarded with "marginal" music. I could use *other* words, but I'll keep it civil :)
Now, all we need is a new release from America!

Message: 17070 Posted: Tue May 22 20:42:28 2001 By: David Perkins
Subject: Re: "The Today Show & SGH

segment opened with the tune of "Sister Golden Hair" and moved on to showing her favorite movie
of that year...1979..

Hmm... Wasn't SGH a hit in 1975?

Message: 17069 Posted: Tue May 22 19:24:24 2001 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: hit it, Ingrid & Lazlo

Lazlo. So you don't like horse and you don't like Lonely People. Are there any America hits you do like. Did you give us Fans your top five or ten somewhere? Are you really an America Fan? or more of a Beatles Fan?

>>> Don't really believe life has passed either of you by. Can't be. Not if you have been to an America concert.

Message: 17068 Posted: Tue May 22 19:23:00 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Ashamed!

I'm really ashamed of what's happening on this board.
It's on the decline. People's dirty language and negative attitudes are destroying this great board. There is no reason for this at all.
If you notice, alot of the people who used to post on this board
just don't because of these annoying and disgusting annoyances.
So stop all this annoying clutter and be nice for goodness sakes.
Yes, everybody has their own opinions about songs they love, hate, etc and that's quite alright. We're all entitled to them. When it gets out of hand, I honestly don't want to hang around here anymore.

Steve L...I apologize sincerely for this venting.

Message: 17067 Posted: Tue May 22 18:53:15 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Re: hit it, Ingrid

BITCH?! Another appellation to live up to. I was doing pretty well with "lucky bastard" and "psycho-groupie-stalker," but this is getting more complex. And if anybody thinks it would be cute to tell me that they think I'm up to the task, it's not f---ing cute, okay?!

THANK YOU for your concurrence Lazlo. I made a sign for an America concert once that had Lonely People with a red circle around it and line through it, and underneath it said "LESS DAN -- MORE DEWEY." (Dan as in Peek, who wrote the song). There's a list of Dewey's songs that I would love to hear live, and if "Lonely People" got dumped from the set list to make room for let's say "Cornwall Blank" or "Molten Love," how happy I would be.

Oh, and of course I meant MORE DEWEY in every sense. I didn't SAY I didn't WANT HIM; I just said I didn't KNOW HIM! :)

(How am I doin'?)

Message: 17066 Posted: Tue May 22 17:38:49 2001 By: Lazlo
Subject: hit it, Ingrid

INGRID ON *LONELY PEOPLE*: "I dislike it greatly. I haven't drunk from the silver cup and I do give up. Got a problem with that?"

Oh Ingrid, you bitch. Sorry, but it's impossible for you to hate "Lonely People" more than I do. And I'll tell ya what I *really* hate. It's their multi-tracked spoken-word delivery of the phrase "hit it", right before the harmonica section. They took a perfectly fine spontaneous comment like "hit it" and they killed it. They killed the spontaneity of "hit it" by saying it with 2 or 3 perfectly-synchronized overdubbed voices.

Message: 17065 Posted: Tue May 22 17:34:04 2001 By: HarryO
Subject: Hank Linderman

Just picked up the new Timothy B. Schmit CD, Feed The Fire. Thought you'd all like to know that Gerry and Dewey's multi-talented pal, Hank Linderman, is on it. He co-wrote a couple of the songs, is listed as one of the engineers, and plays guitars and keyboards on a few tracks.

It's a very nice CD filled with Timothy's beautiful vocals. Check it out!

Message: 17064 Posted: Tue May 22 13:50:22 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: Pneumonia.

The new Whiskeytown CD is out today. It's called Pneumonia. I GUARANTEE THIS WILL BE AMONG YOUR FAVORITE CDS OF ALL TIME. Of all time. Ever. It's incredible. A great pop acoustic guitar and piano sound. Do whatever you have to do to buy this CD today.


Message: 17063 Posted: Tue May 22 09:03:28 2001 By: Yng Moon
Subject: "The Today Show & SGH

"Sister Golden Hair" had a plug on the "Today Show" this morning. Katy and Matt are going back sharing there experiences at their ol' almamaters....Katy went to the University of Virginia...the segment opened with the tune of "Sister Golden Hair" and moved on to showing her favorite movie of that year...1979....favorite actor ect., ect., ect....very cool

Message: 17062 Posted: Tue May 22 08:06:37 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: Little River Band

Thank you all for the reponses - I will post replies to all tomorrow, but for tonight there are a couple of points to reply:
Mike B: I have been listening to some "before LRB" songs from Glenn Shorrock when he was with The Twilights and Axiom - I think they should have re released some of these Australian hits. Now Glenn was based in the UK when Dew, Ger and Dan were coming out of High School. Glenn also was inspired by the Beatles and idolised Sir George Martin. LRB were to produce with Sir George in 1981. The Hollies (with Graham Nash) also wrote a song for the Twilights in the UK - "What's Wrong with The Way I Live?" - very much the Hollies/Beatles harmonies and sound. So they had some common background and I don't know for sure, but I'd say LRB had America as a role model through the early '70's. So I'd say Glenn Shorrock (Emma)= Gerry, Graham Goble (Down On The Border)= Dewey and Beeb Birtles (Everyday of my Life)= Dan maybe. LRB did have 3 very accomplished songwriters, just like America. And don't worry, I'm Booted Up and Turned On (in the nicest way) so I won't be shuttin' down just yet.
Kiri - I love Cool Change - I was born in the sign of water and it's there that I feel at home - that's me to a tee. I also like Home On a Monday - very America like too IMO.
ANDY - The Night Owls was 1981 - reached #6 and was from the George Martin produced album Time Exposure.
Dan - I'll check out Mistress Of Mine. Also, Lonely People by our Dan is one of my top 3 America songs. My Ger fave is Sister Golden Hair and Dew is Ventura Highway.
General Comment - thanks all so much - my old Aussie heart is warmed.
Back to listening to LRB's greatest hits.... As Mike B said, the 20th Anniversary Reminiscing double CD from 1995 is the pick of their collections. I will reply to other comments later...
The Doc

Message: 17061 Posted: Tue May 22 06:51:20 2001 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Mistress / Lonely

What I should have said was that it seemed to me that Lonely People was under rated by the folks on this board. It doesn't seem to get the same press as other great America tunes from you people in know. Other than that I haven't any problems except possibly that my 14 year old daughter was diagnosed with mononucleosis yesterday. Watch who you're kissin'...DanC.

Message: 17060 Posted: Tue May 22 06:32:15 2001 By: red oak
Subject: August lack of concerts

Does anyone have an inkling as to why the lack of concerts for the month of August? Maybe, foreign excursions on the horizon or release of a live concert album or being on the Millionaire w/Regis or what!!!! Something is in the works, but what? Maybe Iowa State Fair.......

Message: 17059 Posted: Tue May 22 05:49:05 2001 By: Cabrina
Subject: LRB

Red Oak - thanks for the LRB info on the Bedford, TX concert. That is only about 10 miles from my home. Unfortunately I will be in Germany when they're here. Maybe I'll have better luck next year!

Message: 17058 Posted: Tue May 22 05:46:15 2001 By: Cabrina
Subject: Wyatt Earp

Pat B. - I think Dennis Quaid portrayed Doc Holiday in the Kevin Costner Wyatt Earp.

Message: 17057 Posted: Tue May 22 05:31:05 2001 By: Pat B.
Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp

I agree with you, Ingrid, I think Tombstone is an excellent movie.
I also enjoyed Kevin Costner's Wyatt Earp too. I forget the name of the actor who portrayed Doc Holiday, but I thought he did a darn good job.

Message: 17056 Posted: Mon May 21 21:56:42 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Mistress / Lonely

"Mistress of Mine" IS a great song Dan. I think I'll be buying an LRB CD very soon. "Lonely People" went to #1 on the Adult Contemporary chart and #5 on the Pop Chart, so a lot of people liked it. I dislike it greatly. I haven't drunk from the silver cup and I do give up. Got a problem with that? :)

Message: 17055 Posted: Mon May 21 20:46:18 2001 By: Dan
Subject: Re: LRB

My favorite LRB song was a tune called Mistress Of Mine, off the First Under The Wire LP. Check it out, it's a fantastic song, for what it's worth. I think Lonely People, by our boys, is also a fantastic tune. and highly underrated too, in my opinion.DanC

Message: 17054 Posted: Mon May 21 18:46:28 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: LRB

Who remembers the song NIGHTOWLS? I used to love it. Seems like a million years ago now.


Message: 17053 Posted: Mon May 21 18:29:48 2001 By: Lazlo
Subject: memo to Cabrina

You've got good taste to like LADY. It contains the following lyrics: "A long time ago I had a lady to love. She made me think of things I never thought of."

Message: 17052 Posted: Mon May 21 17:01:44 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Doc Holiday and the LRB

"I'll be your huckle-berry," said Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday to Kurt Russell as Wyatt Earp. Even if you're not a fan of Westerns, which I'm usually not, that particular "Tombstone" is wonderful with some remarkable acting. A red-haired Dana Delaney is the female vixen and Val Kilmer's Holliday is classic and almost steals the show.

I thought the Desperado quote was very insightful, Doctor.
Little River Band! I'd forgotten how much of their music I like. It's nice to know they're touring this summer.

Message: 17051 Posted: Mon May 21 14:18:52 2001 By: red oak
Subject: Re: LRB

LRB will be in Bedford, Texas on July 3rd. Would be a good one to see.

Message: 17050 Posted: Mon May 21 11:22:30 2001 By: kiri
Subject: Re: Little River Banned?

going to see them this summer. "lady" and "cool change" are my favorites.

Message: 17049 Posted: Mon May 21 10:49:41 2001 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: Little River Banned?

I don’t have any LRB music in my vault but I do recognize a few titles besides the ones you referenced from their 34-song collection on the REMINISCING-20TH ANN/CD. Namely “Cool Change”, “Emma” and “Lyin’ eyes/Take it easy - an obvious Eagles connection. Is there an America connection besides Gerry Beckley using the same song title twenty years later? I’ll have to give some of the clips a listen on my multimedia PC at home.

No need to “Shut down, turn off” just yet Holiday.

Message: 17048 Posted: Mon May 21 10:31:58 2001 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Little River Banned?

LRB tours the US extensively from June thru September. Their webpage is and lists their tour dates in the US. I will be seeing them in Denver on Sept 27. What a great sounding band, right up there with America.

Message: 17047 Posted: Mon May 21 10:16:37 2001 By: Cabrina
Subject: LRB


I liked the LRB - I still listen to their greatest hits CD. Lady was always my favorite.

Message: 17046 Posted: Mon May 21 09:58:58 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Little River Banned?



Message: 17045 Posted: Mon May 21 09:58:40 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Little River Banned?

I liked them too......but don't hear of them much lately. )C=

TkH<-----no wind in the hair PLEASE.....

Message: 17044 Posted: Mon May 21 07:36:39 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: Little River Banned?

Does anyone remember LRB? I really thought I would get some recollections from a distant shore from someone out there about LRB when I posted last week. They did have a lot of Stateside success. I guess I am getting older than I thought? Good grief, no more jokes about windhair - I just thought that "Reminiscing" was pretty good. Anyway, if "Help is (not) on its way", I met "Shut Down, Turn Off" for another day........ hmmmmmmm.

Doc Holiday <------------ = Desperado

Message: 17043 Posted: Sun May 20 21:05:58 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: At least on good thing about CVS...

That is just too strange-- a few hours ago--my friend and I got a little lost on our way to Freeport and found ourselves in Baldwin!!!!"

Darn!! Was that YOUR car that I hit? oops. Sorry. LOL


Message: 17042 Posted: Sun May 20 16:37:10 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: ANDY / Perspective

". . . is like Richard Petty asking Stevie Wonder to do the driving"
Very funny! Sorry gang, but "See How The Love Goes" and "Cinderella" make me smile. And "Lullaby" -- well, I've already been THERE !)

"Ain't no tellin' what a man will do, face to face with a woman like you. . ."

Message: 17041 Posted: Sun May 20 16:22:05 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Re: 12/29/00 vegas gig

Then we were just five or six seats apart . . . I was on the third row aisle. It's a small world after all!

Message: 17040 Posted: Sun May 20 16:19:10 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: At least on good thing about CVS...

That is just too strange-- a few hours ago--my friend and I got a little lost on our way to Freeport and found ourselves in Baldwin!!!!Probably about the same time you were there. She asked if there was anything in Baldwin that was so special---and I said nothing--now I know there is a CVS that plays "America"!!!!

Message: 17039 Posted: Sun May 20 16:01:55 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Ramble, ramble a deux

Oh My GWAD, Andy, maybe you CAN BE SAVED (liking Duran-giggle)!?!?!?!?! See! They CAN play!!! lolololol

Anyway, Capitol really has this way of "over rolling the dough" with artists. They end up having these "great ideas" and turning you into what THEY want (after all it IS their money, right ((HA!)) ??). I don't think Mr.s B&B had much of a say in what went on then.....Capitol probably said "Hey, you don't LIKE IT,,,,,,,,there's the door....btw that contract was for X albums (hint, hint)" The old Rock and a Hard place. I guess one can speculate and wonder about all that creativity that was not, all day.....

TkH<----------+=! f bombed?....gadzooks!

Message: 17038 Posted: Sun May 20 13:41:43 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: At least on good thing about CVS...

I went shopping at the CVS drug store an hour ago in Baldwin, NY. They were playing FROM A MOVING TRAIN over the loudspeaker. A very nice touch :)


Message: 17037 Posted: Sun May 20 11:36:49 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Dan's Chapter 41 - Ramble, ramble

"Maybe that's why I'm such a Duran fan. Yeah, ok, they were pretty-boys, but at least it was "happy happy"....."

Here's an idea: Let's lock Mr. Duran in a room with only a couple of Taylor (or Guild) acoustic guitars, a bass, a real drum set, and an analog tape recording machine. Let's see what happens. I might even take back all of the nasty things that I've said. LOL.
Seriously, I remember seeing Duran Duran on TV once in the early 90s, and they did an "unplugged" version of some Doors song called THE CRYSTAL SHIP. It was just them with one acoustic guitar! I thought it was fabulous, and it left me wondering about what could have been...

Andy <-----waiting 6 more days for America's arrival in NYC

Message: 17036 Posted: Sun May 20 11:27:20 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Dan's Chapter 41 - Ramble, ramble/The 80s

"My only regret is that I didn't hear more of THEIR penned stuff....."

I only just noticed this recently, but on the PERSPECTIVE CD, it turns out that Dewey and Gerry never played one instrument, except for some vocals. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING??????????? I know this is old news to most of you here, but it really stunned me. Let's look back at the many instruments that Gerry has played over the years, and Dewey's great alternate tunings for the guitar, and ask ourselves, WHOSE IDEA WAS THAT??? America asking other people to play music instruments for them is like Richard Petty asking Stevie Wonder to do the driving.


Message: 17035 Posted: Sun May 20 07:31:33 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Dan's Chapter 41 - Ramble, ramble

Desperado. Now THAT's one reason I love good song lyrics. What a song.......

Hotel California (aside from being an EXCELLENT album) does perfectly mirror the times, cynicism and all (guess I'm kind of stuck there this weekend). I just recently bought the CD (Oh,my poor after all these years. As much as I LOVE the '80's and the music that poured forth (I can feel the cringes, sorry but I really DO, rofl) it WAS kind of a downer, attitude-wise. Maybe that's why I'm such a Duran fan. Yeah, ok, they were pretty-boys, but at least it was "happy happy".....As for America in the '80's......I think that whole ".....lets make lots of money" mentality by the record companies waylaid them. Luckily they had the foresight to just STICK IT OUT. Everything comes full circle eventually, voila! My only regret is that I didn't hear more of THEIR penned stuff.....I'm wondering how much was laying on the wayside (or in someone's tape vault somewhere). Sigh. It's always interesting to hear "raw" stuff (i.e. demo tracks on "Highway"), John Taylor put out a really COOL CD back in '99 of some stuff he did (solo, in his own little studio) in '92 that really throws a couple of extra nuts/bolts into what I percieved as his creative process! I wonder if there isn't something like that kicking around in Gerry's studio (or ANYWHERE for that matter). It'd be interesting to hear!


Message: 17034 Posted: Sun May 20 06:05:13 2001 By: Janice
Subject: re: Gerry's Vest Photo

Cool vest, Michelle..I think you should do what Nina did and make one for Gerry and Dewey..and then, of course one for every member of the Chat Page!
Just checking in..gotta type fast before the Percocet wears off..had a fun stay in the hospital where my notoriety stems from knowing every staff member. (wonderful). I will be home for several weeks so drop me a line..almost anything will make me laugh these days. :-)

Message: 17033 Posted: Sun May 20 05:18:44 2001 By: msmith
Subject: 12/29/01 vegas

oops! that would be 12/29/00.

Message: 17032 Posted: Sun May 20 05:17:51 2001 By: msmith
Subject: 12/29/01 vegas gig

ingrid, no it was not me who shouted out 'holiday'. we could not have been seated very far apart that night, however. i went to both the 12/29 & 12/30 shows and sat in the third row also both nights. i was right in front of gerry when he was at the keyboard. i remember seeing dewey's son and his friends sitting in the second row a few seats to my right. life is all good at an america concert. i'll see them three times in june!

Message: 17031 Posted: Sat May 19 21:56:37 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: Dan's Chapter 41

Agreed Beech - it is unfortunately a fact that many competitive people often (not always of course)only feel a sense of achievement if others 'lose' - they lack that self-actualising ability to be able to enjoy their own accomplishments for the intrinsic value they have created or how much of a difference that they made to others lives in some positive way ....... ah, It's Life and the people are pretty and the flowers are too ...... thanks for reminding us Dan.

As for Desperado itself, I think this site might come alive with comments again now, but I was not in America when it was released (1973 I think)but I coincidentally read something about it - let me know if you agree:
" The cowboy outlaw - such a potent figure in popular American mythology perfectly suited the mood of the moment. When Desperado came out Sam Peckinpath offered to base a film on it. Hippies lamenting the the waning of their libertarian fantasies were comforted here by tales of outlaws whose own dreams of freedom beyond the law were fading fast. The messages stressed the need to beware the encroaching numbness that life in the fast lane can inflict - a lesson that the Eagles themselves spent the rest of the '70's learning the hard way. As their sound would become harder and rockier, they started hitting the room service in good old Hotel California. The Eagles would soon lose most of the aching poignancy and coherence they achieved on this remarkable record"

As to America and the Eagles - I, like Dan always loved the Eagles and America's music. Perhaps Dan's 'Its Life' would also prove prophetic - 'Cause it's life, and it's taken everyone of you (and)....I don't think there's room for two". I would like to hear Dan comment more on this song and if that was his meaning.

Message: 17030 Posted: Sat May 19 21:44:05 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Gerry's Vest Photo

Michelle, you'll be excited to know that Gerry forwarded me a copy of the photo that he took with you wearing the famous vest. Click here to see the photo. Thanks Gerry for making it available.

Message: 17029 Posted: Sat May 19 18:01:50 2001 By: Angie
Subject: Hello?

Hi? Is anyone there? Anyway, America is supposed to be in the NY/NJ area this coming week. Does anyone know if they are making any t.v. appearances on the local shows? I'm looking to see if there will be a write up for AC by Friday in The Record. And the Sopranos new CD came out. Is Sister Golden Hair on it? Just questions to anyone.

Message: 17028 Posted: Sat May 19 13:11:35 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: msmith and Las Vegas "Holiday"

I was looking through some folder archives "just looking for some clues at the scene of the crime -- life's been good to me so far . . ." and noticed that msmith filed a report from Las Vegas on 12/29 and 12/30. So I have to ask --- a very funny moment occurred during the 12/29 show when Dewey said "That song is from our fourth album, uh . . .uh . . ." and it was apparent from the look on his face that he was searching his memory. At that point, a man from the audience, sitting in the middle section about 10 rows back, shouted "Holiday" and Dewey said "Yes! Thank you -- Holiday -- See, I know it like the back of my hand." Was that you? I thought at the time "I'll bet that was a chat folder fan." I was sitting in the third row of the right section, behind Dewey's son Dylan.

Message: 17027 Posted: Sat May 19 11:59:10 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Chapter 41 Postulations

HOW TRUE, Mr. Peek!

Unfortunatly still today, the same old "truths" pervade. It doesn't matter how good YOU are, everything (one) else must be put down to "showcase" yourself!!!! Of course there are the RARE examples to the contrary, I just wish people would take a chapter out of THOSE books to emulate! Even in this folder we get "flamers" that are a prime example of the aforementioned negativity! I'm great, so you suck seems to be the "mantra".....Am I being pms'y? Am I just in a funk????

TkH<-------+=! The Dr. is in

Message: 17026 Posted: Fri May 18 12:45:59 2001 By: dofd
Subject: Whose Line is it Anyway?

If you're not familiar with the show, it's improvisational comedy with Drew Carey and his merry men. Anyhow, on last night's show there was a skit in which the comedians could only speak using song titles. Even though he got the title wrong, one of them slipped in an America reference, saying, "I've been through the desert on a horse with no name."

Message: 17025 Posted: Thu May 17 19:29:20 2001 By: kiri
Subject: well, it's official...

of course, i may be the last to know...but i did hear that janet jackson song with the "ventura highway" riff ON THE RADIO. cool.

Message: 17024 Posted: Thu May 17 13:25:40 2001 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Who was that Masked Man?

it was indeed AMERICA's former bass player, playing guitar.

Message: 17023 Posted: Thu May 17 12:53:16 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Who was that Masked Man?

Kim, I believe you were treated to a rare appearance by David Dickey. Anyone want to confirm or deny?

Message: 17022 Posted: Thu May 17 10:54:23 2001 By: Mike B
Subject: Like a Brother

“Can you feel the spirit” as we “watch the time go by” and “stare at the same blue moon, under the sheltering sky”

Again, “From the garden of peace”, “I wish for you”, “Like a Brother”… America Fans.

Message: 17021 Posted: Thu May 17 10:16:16 2001 By: Kim Cabrina
Subject: Richardson TX concert 05/12/01

Just saw my first America concert ever at Wildflower Nights in Ricardson, TX and it was wonderful. I have a question someone out there might be able to help me with. When they played Horse a guy came out and played guitar with them. With all the cheering I couldn't here his name. Does any one know who that might have been?

Message: 17020 Posted: Thu May 17 09:39:48 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: Steve L - Thanks

Forgot to say Steve (and Johnny who also posted me a message), thanks for the words too - re Watching The Time. As usual Steve, you are doing a masterful job here.
With kind thanks

Message: 17019 Posted: Thu May 17 09:23:27 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: Speak to me.....

"Oh yes, Brother Michael
We all have heavenly faith in you
And everything you do
And everything you just said
All the way through
Goodbye for now brother

Thanks for the words Gerry
Thanks for the words Mike


Message: 17018 Posted: Thu May 17 09:09:34 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Other concerts: rockers--speaking of JB

You can blame my being a fan of Jackson's on AMerica. I had heard of him, sure, he was a local product. I became a real fan when he opened for America in August of 73. I saw them at the legendary Hollywood Bowl. Great show!

Message: 17017 Posted: Thu May 17 06:45:58 2001 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: Hair/Wind - Speak to me.

We are not just “dust in the wind” with “ashes in our hair”. “You take what you want and I’ll take the sunshine”. I’ll take “Love at home” with my “forever family”. I hope to be with them “longer than there been stars up in the heavens” because “I am a child of God”. “You gotta hope”. In the mean time, I’ll give “all my life” to family and friends. You haven’t lived until you give, so “give the kiss of life”. "Hello there. Hello Gerry." Yes “Emma”, "Heaven Is Very beautiful”".

“I Wish for You” America Fans.

>>> Not all the lyrics above come from popular culture.

Message: 17016 Posted: Thu May 17 06:02:56 2001 By: msmith
Subject: like a brother

i remember travelling around mexico last summer with my discman shortly after having purchased 'like a brother'. spent a lot of that time with 'like a brother' spinning. what a joy! i was sure that upon returning to the states that nearly all of the songs would be on the top forty. what an outstanding cd! i really love "watching the time go by", but it is only my second favorite track behind carl's "i wish for you". "sheltering sky" comes in third, and for me the cd only has one clunker. i just can't understand why none of those songs made an impact on the charts. i just don't understand why the rest of the world doesn't like what i like--i just don't understand it.....

Message: 17015 Posted: Thu May 17 04:53:23 2001 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Other concerts: rockers

Speaking of Jackson Browne...

I saw Jackson Browne at the Cumberland County Civic Center in Portland Maine in 1978. What an amazing concert. He had recently released "Running On Empty" and played a lot of stuff from that album (one of his best IMO). Bonnie Raitt and Karla Bonoff were his backing vocalists for the show. It was a 3-hour show w/ no warm-up band. Some highlights I remember from the show: He opened with "The Fuse" (great song - quoted from by Robyn in a recentl post). He started the second set w/ "Doctor My Eyes". Jackson started on the piano w/ Craig Doerge on the keyboards. In the middle of the song, they added an instrumental bridge during which Jackson jumped from the piano, threw his guitar around his neck and started playing while Craig simultaneously moved from the keyboards over to the piano - all without missing a beat! The whole crowd went wild when he started playing "Nothing But Time" ("Rollin' down 295 out of Portland, Maine..."). Me and the girl I took to the show were standing on our seats screaming at that point. He did "The Load Out/Stay" for his first encore, but ended up singing not one, but 3 more songs. For the very last encore, just Jackson and David Lindley took to the stage, JB w/ acoustic guitar and David w/ fiddle, and did "Take It Easy". DL is an incredible musician. It never ceases to amaze me how many instruments that guy can play (and play well at that). Portland Maine has always been one of JB's strongholds, so there was a lot of positive energy there that night. That has got to be MY most memorable non-America concert, followed closely by Dan Fogelberg's solo acoustic performance a few years back in Cohasset, MA and the Eagles at Great Woods back in 94.

Message: 17014 Posted: Thu May 17 04:29:10 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Other concerts: rockers

I seem to remember (on the fringes of my adolescent memories) a "happenin" Tony Orlando and Dawn concert at the Ionia Free Fair '73(C= , the following year it was Neil Sedaka........(Yes, they really happened!) Unfortunatly that's the ROCKIN'est I ever!

TkH<-------+=! great concert neophyte

Message: 17013 Posted: Wed May 16 18:10:58 2001 By: cfhere
Subject: Re: Forget AC/DC...

Besides America my favorite concert was Creedence Clear Water Revival at Madison Square Garden in May 1970. It was my first concert that I went to with my friends and it was great. Also, Chicago in 1976 and 1998. Twelve years apart, but both were still great.


Message: 17012 Posted: Wed May 16 15:35:21 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Like A Brother

Chris (Holiday), I see that you posted a question on the message board asking about the lyrics for Watching The Time Go By on the album Like A Brother. When the album came out I posted the lyrics to that song on the America Fans web site and you can see them by clicking on the previous link.

Message: 17011 Posted: Wed May 16 14:55:15 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Being Dead

and on a more positve note:

"Though the years give way to uncertainty
and a fear of living for nothing strangles the will

there's a part of me... alive in eternity that nothing can kill"
Jackson Browne "The Fuse"

Message: 17010 Posted: Wed May 16 14:11:00 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Other concerts: rockers

A New Year's Eve show in 1977-- Jackson Browne, Bonnie Raitt and a never before seen Warren Zevon. They were all having a great time and the Great Western Forum was ROCKIN' I had seats in nosebleed territory , but remember it well!

Message: 17009 Posted: Wed May 16 14:04:40 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Other concerts: rockers

In 1996 I saw Foreigner live at the Concord Pavilion and it was a SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE! REO Speedwagon played that night too. All in all, a little slice of heaven. I recently found a cassette of REO's 1996 "Building the Bridge" album in a drawer and it had been signed by all of the members of the band! Confession: I don't have a very vivid recollection of that happening! I remember Kevin Cronin signing my T-shirt and my Greatest Hits CD but . . . .
BTW, "Building the Bridge" is a great album. Kevin has some beautiful ballads on it (tear-jerkers even), obviously inspired by his new wife, Lisa. Ahhh, young love -- with what can it compare? :)

Message: 17008 Posted: Wed May 16 13:44:48 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Forget AC/DC...

I'll put my favourite concerts into two categories: America, and everything else:

Favourite America concerts:

1. Operation Sail in Conecticut, summer of 2000. Absolutely the
best sound quality, and the first time I heard WIND WAVE performed

2. The Hudson River pier, New York City, July 30, 1983. One of my all-
time favourite bands, RENAISSANCE opened the show. be
a kid again :)

Favourite non-America show:

1. LILITH FAIR 1999!!!!!! I thought I was more level headed, but when
Sarah walked on stage, I came within in inch of fainting. That and
she is soooooooo amazing to hear :) I had 4th row seats, which I
earned by standing on line for 12 3/4 hours. Was it worth it?
Let's just say that the smile still hasn't left my face :)

Andy <---------with butterflies still dancing around my head. lol

Message: 17007 Posted: Wed May 16 10:20:28 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Being Dead

<....I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead........

and Chris? There's always the immortal Warren Zevon line

"I'll sleep when I'm dead."


Message: 17006 Posted: Wed May 16 09:20:45 2001 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Forget AC/DC...

the closest sound to AMERICA in my opinion was American Flyer also produced by Sir George Martin. They did 2 LP's in the mid 70's, good stuff.

Message: 17005 Posted: Wed May 16 08:31:49 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: AC/DC to LRB

Hey, I didn't know that AC/DC were so big in the States. And to think that Bon Scott is buried in my own town down here in my part of Oz. My kids love them, but I never saw them perform. Go figure?
I was listening and reading about Little River Band tonight and also did not realise just how big they were in the States too. After their 1975 debut album, they went on to score at least one top 10 US single every year from 1977 to 1982! Wow, I never knew that and I followed them from before they even formed the group in '75 when they were playing with different Oz bands. I see that they opened for America, I guess from 1977/78 on some tours. Did anyone see them perform on any of these tours?. I would be interested in your recollections of their performances.
They were awesome, IMO, and went on writing great songs till 1990 when one of their geniuses, Graham Goble left the group.
Hey, Mike B - speak to me ...... soon as we learn how to live, we're just beginning to die. But as Jimmy Buffett says..... I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead........

Message: 17004 Posted: Wed May 16 08:31:27 2001 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Forget AC/DC...

Best concerts other than America (that I can recall anyway) were Chicago in 1976 at Western Kentucky University and Rare Earth (with Dr Hook & the Medicine Show) in 1973 believe. Dr Hook was very humorous and entertaining and Rare Earth really rocked!

Message: 17003 Posted: Wed May 16 08:19:23 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Chat

Please join me this evening for our weekly chat. If anyone would like to listen to Holiday, let me know!

Message: 17002 Posted: Wed May 16 06:25:48 2001 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: AC/DC

My two office mates went to AC/DC last month here in SLC. They said it was the best head banging rock concert they have ever been too. They have been talking about it ever since. Not sure if they talk more about “Angus ruling” or the women flashers during “She’s got the Jax?”.

I’ve tried to get them to an America concert but they Say “their two mellow” and make fun of “Horse”.

….Holiday, Don’t we all have more wind than hair since the 70’s.

Message: 17001 Posted: Wed May 16 06:19:07 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Forget AC/DC...

Besides America and Beach Boys (Madison Square Garden 1976) best concerts that I saw. Best Rock Concerts I saw are Kinks (Madison Square Garden 1985) and Stevie Ray Vaughn (Radio City Hall and Pier, both in NYC) early-mid 80's. What a rockin' concerts they were. PHEW!

Message: 17000 Posted: Wed May 16 04:59:16 2001 By: Pete
Subject: Re: AC/DC

Your husband is right, Angus was great. This concert is well worth to see. The lead singer is going on 60, and Angus is going to be 50. So who knows how much longer they will be around.

Message: 16999 Posted: Wed May 16 04:49:49 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: AC/DC

My husband and 14 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER wants to go.......I don't mind AC/DC but my husband thinks Angus RULES!!!!!! LOL

TkH<---------+=! Huh?

Message: 16998 Posted: Wed May 16 03:59:20 2001 By: Pete
Subject: Re: AC/DC

I just saw ACDC in Albany last week and they were great. I was surprise how good they were. They were loud but Ive heard louder.

Message: 16997 Posted: Tue May 15 17:56:21 2001 By: Dan
Subject: Re: America Fan

Pete, I saw them in 1978, opening for Aerosmith, with Bon Scott still alive and well. Awesome double bill. When Angus went out in the crowd on Scott's shoulders jammin on his axe the place went crazy. That concert was also the only time I've ever lost my car after a concert...ahhh the 70's.DanC.

Message: 16996 Posted: Tue May 15 17:46:56 2001 By: Angie
Subject: Re: Angie

You were clear and I understood what you said. To see Dewey and Gerry in concert would be great and even to meet them by chance would be better. That is all I meant. Humble meaning that it would be my first time to a concert and also joining the chat folder to ge other points of view. To listen to their music on album/CD is different than being there and listening to it live. And I love reading about lyrics(that is why I quote so often) and the America history. Maybe they will write a book like all the rest one day. Okay?

Message: 16995 Posted: Tue May 15 17:29:26 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Angie

In case it wasn't clear, my "ain't seen nothin' yet" was in reference to your first post where you said that you were an America virgin -- I think you'll be amazed at how much more of a fan you'll become after you see them live. After your first concert, give us a report!

Message: 16994 Posted: Tue May 15 17:21:00 2001 By: Pat B.
Subject: Re: AC/DC

I saw AC/DC in New Haven CT, when they were supporting the 'Fly On The Wall' album. That was around 1985 or'86. AWESOME CONCERT! "Sink The Pink" was incredible! They sounded so much better live than on any of their studio records. I was head-banging the entire concert. Went home drenched in sweat. Angus Rules.

Message: 16993 Posted: Tue May 15 16:06:54 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Lurking to ANDY/John L & Mike B

"Thanks John L/Andy - good Al Stewart site. I see the "On The Border" I bought last week is the Netherlands version and it is a collection album - question: what happened to Time Passages? Has to be my favourite of his."

Time Passages was Al's second most successful hit here in the States. It's just my opinion, but Time Passages isn't even the finest song on the CD by the same name. In concert, Al usually plays Year Of The Cat and sometimes Time Passages, but not everytime.

Let's see...only 21 days until the America/Al Stewart Show in New Jersey. But who's counting? ;) lol


Message: 16992 Posted: Tue May 15 15:27:29 2001 By: Angie
Subject: Re: Wallpaper / Angie

In the NJ area and maybe CT. Waterloo Village, Cooper River Park and maybe Papermill Playhouse. I would like to go to AC in May if possible. I'm considering Hershey Park as well. Just a humble fan who loves America.

Message: 16991 Posted: Tue May 15 10:23:51 2001 By: Pete
Subject: America Fan

Anybody out there ever see ACDC in concert. I'm a America fan.

Message: 16990 Posted: Tue May 15 09:10:51 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Billy S re Janet

Or get it straight from the "Horse's" Mouth Go to No rip off here, seems JJ has learned her lesson! ( Anyone know if sh'e planning on releasing it as a single? are the votes in???)

Message: 16989 Posted: Tue May 15 08:34:30 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: Billy S re Janet

Billy - see message #16709 from Steve L and subsequent discussions in the April archives. It's been a busy board bud billy........

Message: 16988 Posted: Tue May 15 08:24:48 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: Lurking to ANDY/John L & Mike B

Thanks John L/Andy - good Al Stewart site. I see the "On The Border" I bought last week is the Netherlands version and it is a collection album - question: what happened to Time Passages? Has to be my favourite of his.
Mike B - Liked your humour, and have to agree - life would be pretty boring if we did not have people who dared to be different and push the boundaries. Hey, and who said that a horse has to have a name anyway? Hell, they've all got the same birthday Down Under. And as far as letting the wind blow through your hair, I'd love to, but I've got more wind than hair lately....... LOL :)

Message: 16987 Posted: Tue May 15 08:21:02 2001 By: Billy Shepherd
Subject: Janet Jackson

I'm probably way behing (as usual) and havn't posted in a long time...but a friend pointed out Janet jackson's new song, someone to call my lover....a ventura highway rip off. Has this been discussed already?

Message: 16986 Posted: Tue May 15 04:44:45 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Wallpaper

Ah, Ingrid! Thanks!!!!

All "modesty" aside, again I just want to reinterate that WITHOUT Mr. Diltz/Mr. Burden (logos and album design), NONE of this would exist! (C= I guess that would make me a Henry Diltz groupie (lololol-just kidding, this woman is NO ONE'S groupie ((snicker))!!!). Anyone have any personally owned photos (or scan 'er in!) that they'd like in a background-my drawing tablet awaits.


Message: 16985 Posted: Tue May 15 04:36:43 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Disperaging the

Hey, I don't have anything against disperaging comments about ANYTHING, I just don't like Dave Berry's writing style! Yeah, he's allowed his views, as are we! I figure he's got this HUGE forum - weeelllll, this is mine (lol)! As Shayne said, Bad Pub is better than NO Pub, but in my mind trashing things to make yourself look more erudite is fairly "vain-glorious" (pardon the outdated word, it just seemed to "fit").........I know he's loved by a lot of people, the previous Dave Barry post was, again, just my opinion....(C=

TkH<------!=+ Still

Message: 16984 Posted: Mon May 14 23:43:22 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Wallpaper / Angie

Awesome job again Beechlady -- and stop being so modest about it! I really like the puzzle and the primary colors on this one. It's got a homey feel to it and, that reminds me, I've got a hankerin' for somethin' homemade ;) I'd like to suggest a photo by Mr. Diltz that's on the Corbis site, Image #DZ003499. It's Gerry and Dewey seated against a wall and THAT reminds me of several sets of lyrics but I SHALL resist! (Bet y'all didn't know that a groupie could have self-control! Not all groupies are sluts and junkies you know.) Now that's NOT a disparaging comment about sluts or junkies so NO WHINING!

Also, Tery, I will e-mail a photo to you of something that I have pertaining to fireflies, violet stones, ETC. I don't know if it's something that you could or would use, but you're welcome to it.

Welcome to the folder Angie. What concert(s) are you going to this summer? You think you're a fan now --- b-b-b-baby you just ain't seen n-nothin' yet!

Message: 16983 Posted: Mon May 14 19:08:28 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Re: The Vest

Quite an inVESTment of time and creativity -- it's great Michelle. Thanks for posting it Steve.

Message: 16982 Posted: Mon May 14 16:18:36 2001 By: David Perkins
Subject: Steve Martin on "Horse"

Way back in 1988, Steve Martin was a guest on the Tonight Show or Letterman. I remember him mocking the lyrics "for there ain't noone for to give you no pain"

Message: 16981 Posted: Mon May 14 15:33:57 2001 By: Angie
Subject: To Each His Own

Okay, I don't agree with Dave Barry's opinion(I think he had a brain fart), but it is his right to say it anyway. I think Dewey has lovely lyrics(many with double meaning) and Horse is still one of my favorites to listen on the road. Hello to all that lurk:o)

Message: 16980 Posted: Mon May 14 15:06:16 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: All that lurk: To MikeB/Angie/ANDY

"Chris, check out . Should answer most of your questions. If you haven't got it, his new album Down in the Cellar is excellent.

I agree. My favourite Al Stewart CDs include "BETWEEN THE WARS" and "YEAR OF THE CAT". Come to think of it, I don't think he has put out one dud in a career that goes back to the mid 1960s.
This America/Al Stewart show on 6/7 has to be one of my ultimate fantasies.


Message: 16979 Posted: Mon May 14 12:31:07 2001 By: Mike B
Subject: re:Horse/All that lurk

Great to see some lurkers post their names. Deb, Dan, Holiday, Lazlo, etc. How about some more. Even if Lazlo came to trash a favorite song that brought me to America. Lazlo, your not the first.

It doesn’t really bother me, when city folk don't get the lyrics. Have you spent significant time in the desert, Lazlo? Dewey’s songs bask my soul in wild wide-open spaces. I can spend weeks in the Utah desert without finding time to name the Horse. I've spent the time figuring out Horse on the guitar, reflecting on the inner self, or letting the natural world amaze me. Man, with his sience, mostly dosen't get the wonders of nature. When in the desert listening to Horse, Ventura Highway, Wheels, Windwave, etc. my soul is lifted.

Keep giving us those broad stroke lyrics that go outside the lines Dewey. Nobody does it like you do. To heck with grammer, science, corporate power, or a politically correct society. Let the free wind blow through your hair.

Message: 16978 Posted: Mon May 14 11:11:47 2001 By: Nina
Subject: Re: The Vest

VERY creative...I think it's quite a neat idea! Kudos to Michelle!~

Message: 16977 Posted: Mon May 14 09:11:52 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: All that lurk: To MikeB/Angie/ANDY

Chris, check out . Should answer most of your questions. If you haven't got it, his new album Down in the Cellar is excellent.


Message: 16976 Posted: Mon May 14 07:11:57 2001 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: Dave Barry on HORSE

I've always liked Dave Barry and have read the book of bad songs. I wasn't particularily insulted with his choice of HORSE simply because it was just his opinion. There wee many other songs I liked (and some I didn't) that made his list. I guess we should be happy that AMERICA was thought of enough to include. The only thing worse than bad publicity is being ignored.

BTW, it was great finally being able to attend a chat session (albeit for 3 minutes before a baby - not really a baby anymore - now 2 and a half year old - woke up). I'll try again this week.


Message: 16975 Posted: Mon May 14 06:41:11 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re:Horse

ditto on Howards Horse comments........and when you think about it....because of Horse we discovered America ......

Message: 16974 Posted: Sun May 13 21:27:20 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Happy Mother's Day!

Hope everyone had a wonderful day. I spent it riding roller coasters ( You do what you want I'll do what I want) dd and I had our America moment. Riding the Carousel, dd and her friend were naming their horse. They asked what mine was named. I looked at her. Light bulb went on and we both began to sing HWNN. Her friend is now certain that we are certifiable!
Take care all.

Message: 16973 Posted: Sun May 13 18:26:50 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Happy Mother's Day and Horse

To all the mom's on this board.
I hope you had a great Mother's day and were royally treated.
You deserve the best, because YOU ARE THE BEST!

Couldn't take it anymore. As a musician, one of the most
challengings and great songs to figure out was Horse. I think I can
speak for all of us that play guitar and for years and years,
have tried emulating one of the most magnificent way Dewey's tunes
his guitar (and what Gerry does to compliment it) just for Horse is truly amazing. And when you finally figure out the chords, it's a discovery that we'll always cherish.
Right Ric B, Bill (Leakycanoe), Bryan H, Jim N! and whoever else
I forgot I apologize. So let them make fun of Horse, that signature
song is the bred winner for the guys all these years. ALso Dan
performed this song many times on his tour in the mid 1980's and have a video of him performing it on Nashville now.

Have a great week everyone. :0)

Message: 16972 Posted: Sun May 13 06:45:35 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Happy Mother's Day!

ahhhhhhhhhhhh Janice!!! PERFECT!!!! lol.

To all those no matter what the vowel (C;


TkH<-------+=! Never breaks the chain

Message: 16971 Posted: Sun May 13 05:58:18 2001 By: Pat B.
Subject: Re: The Vest

Upon further inVESTigation, I see a pin above the left hand pocket that's partially obscured. That must be the HN pin. Mystery solved.

Message: 16970 Posted: Sun May 13 05:52:25 2001 By: Pat B.
Subject: Re: The Vest

Great Vest!

However, I could not find a pin representing 'Human Nature'. (?)

Message: 16969 Posted: Sun May 13 04:11:41 2001 By: Janice
Subject: Happy Mother's Day!'s our day, right Mom's? So get up..cook our breakfast, buy us flowers, get everything done on the Honey Do list while we get a massage and manicure, returning to a spotlessly clean house, gifts scattered among the dozens of roses, that wonderful new outfit we had been eyeing lying on the bed (with matching accessories)..entertain the limo driver whilst we soak in Calgon preparing for the most delightful evening out of being wined and dined.
Ok ok...reality check...I'm waiting for my kids to get up as they are taking me to breakfast at the Pancake House...and you know what? I feel truly blessed...Happy Mother's Day to all the special Moms on this folder. :-)

Message: 16968 Posted: Sat May 12 20:39:33 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Dave Barry on HORSE

I know the guy has readers, but I've NEVER really liked his column. Too "forced funny". Too over the when I read Horse column a while back (then it was put into the book-hubmeister saw it thinking I'd like to read it) I was like "eh". I think someone should write a book about the most annoying authors and their most annoying books. He'd top MY


Message: 16967 Posted: Sat May 12 20:30:10 2001 By: Deb
Subject: Re: Say hello all that lurk


Message: 16966 Posted: Sat May 12 20:17:11 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: The Vest

Michelle has the COOLEST VEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VERY clever! I WANT some PINS just like that


Message: 16965 Posted: Sat May 12 19:45:47 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: The Vest

Gerry hasn't had time to post the photo of Michelle yet with her cool vest, but I have a photo of the vest which I think you'll all love. Click on the following link to see it:

The Vest

Message: 16964 Posted: Sat May 12 19:29:06 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Dave Barry on HORSE

Dave Barry plays in a band with among others, Stephen King. QUick without looking , quote something written by Dave. Could he be jealous that Horse remians in our collective concious, while his writting, while mildly amusing is largely forgetable? ( althoug Jeni's rant is pretty funny!)

Message: 16963 Posted: Sat May 12 17:10:15 2001 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Say hello all that lurk


Message: 16962 Posted: Sat May 12 16:09:59 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Dave Barry on HORSE

I find Dave Barry to usually be amusing, but on the issue of Dewey's HORSE, let's just say that good 'ol Dave's brain was shut down for some temporary maintainance :O)


Message: 16961 Posted: Sat May 12 15:48:42 2001 By: Lazlo
Subject: Dave Barry on HORSE

FROM *DAVE BARRY'S BOOK OF BAD SONGS*: "There were two strong finishers in the Bad Song Survey in the subcategory of Bad Songs Involving Horses. One of these was A HORSE WITH NO NAME, by America, which many people cited because of the lyrics: 'In the desert, you can remember your name. Cause there ain't no one for to give you no pain.'

"I myself have always found A HORSE WITH NO NAME to be highly irritating. I agree with the comic Rich Jeni, who says: 'You're in a *desert*. You got nothin' else to *do*. NAME THE FREAKIN' HORSE.'"

Message: 16960 Posted: Sat May 12 09:38:09 2001 By: Angie
Subject: Horizontal Fall

Hope Gerry would work on that quick. It's been so long since VGG. How about High Tide(to go along with Harbor). Summer fever has hit me hard and concerts are not far away. Hi to everyone:O)

Message: 16959 Posted: Sat May 12 09:00:08 2001 By: holiday
Subject: All that lurk: To MikeB/Angie/ANDY

Hi Mike B - we are here. Hello and welcome to new family too - hi Angie. I liked your "Hurry Up" as a next album title - LOL. I too hope that we do not have to wait long - what with Gerry's "Horizontal Fall" and another America album as WIP, 2001 should be another milestone year.
What about "Vertical Horizon" as an America title? ha ha ......
ANDY - I believe that you were looking forward to seeing Al Stewart perform as an opener to the guys. I have not followed him closely, but like his songs. Today, while picking up some CD's in the bargain bin, I came across "On The Border", and I love it! Could you give me some info on where he comes from, and what hit songs he has had - besides "Year Of The Cat"? We have an Aussie artist who sounds just like him, by the name of Richard Clapton. I'm sure Aussie lurkers know Richard C from his "Girls on the Avenue" hit song.

Message: 16958 Posted: Sat May 12 06:41:08 2001 By: TZ MAC
Subject: Re: Sir Paul

Menion in early Saturday morning language translates roughly to mean:

mention ..........................


Message: 16957 Posted: Sat May 12 06:37:34 2001 By: TZ MAC
Subject: Re: Sir Paul

Did someone menion Paul McCartney???????????

George Martin was co-producer with Paul on Live and Let Die. George also was co-producer on two songs from Paul's Flaming Pie album.

George was producer on Paul's solo albums: Tug of War, Give My Regards to Broadstreet and all but 1 song on Pipes of Peace.

George also produced the excellent UK only single, Once Upon A Long Ago.


Message: 16956 Posted: Sat May 12 05:48:37 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Sir Paul

"Did George Martin ever produce for Wings?"

How about Paul's TUG OF WAR CD? I guess that may not count since that was technically a solo recording by Paul, with no mention of Wings. Still, in the video for TAKE IT AWAY, we can clearly see Sir George.


Message: 16955 Posted: Sat May 12 03:17:02 2001 By: Spurs
Subject: Sir George

Hello again,not sure how much Sir George did with Wings I beleive it was very little,Sir Paul did a later solo album which was much trumpeted with Sir George, as the Beatles in later years were very reluctant to acknowledge his worth.Sir Paul was told of exciting stories told by Geoff Emerick of people recording remotely in Hawaii,so he and Geoff went of and recorded an album on a yacht in some tropical seas somewhere.Of the afore mentioned album was on UK tv from start to finish,but for the life of me I do'nt recall it.

Message: 16954 Posted: Fri May 11 17:10:56 2001 By: Angie
Subject: With the power there to burn so much

Hidden Talent Andy!(I bet you're gonna find some)LOL. I could pick and choose the lyrics from Gerry's songs all day long. As on Dewey's behalf Green Monkey has great lines as well-Will speak the fate of your evening, tell the truth to your lie. Speak to me.

Message: 16953 Posted: Fri May 11 16:36:52 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Sometimes I'm on target.

LOL Angie.!
I'm going to have a hard time convincing people that you're NOT me. Almost every song you picked is at the top of my list of favs. I've tried playing Clarice at a few open mics, but I'm never happy with my voice when I think of how awesome the original is. On the Dewey front, I've always put Tall Treasure and even MY DEAR way up there.


Message: 16952 Posted: Fri May 11 16:31:48 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Sir Paul

"Did George Martin ever produce for Wings?"

LIVE AND LET DIE comes to mind. It may be far more extensive than that, but at least I'm certain of LIVE AND LET DIE.


Message: 16951 Posted: Fri May 11 16:19:03 2001 By: Mike B
Subject: Say hello all that lurk

I've been lurking again for the past few weeks. How about a short hello from all that lurk.

Message: 16950 Posted: Fri May 11 16:15:32 2001 By: Mike B
Subject: Lori & Angie Rock

It's great to see some appreciation for America's rockers. Claifornia Revisted, Moon Song, and Green Monkey rock on the Musikladen DVD/Video. I also like Greenhouse, Hiden Talent, and Here for there uptempo nature.

Message: 16949 Posted: Fri May 11 15:52:53 2001 By: Angie
Subject: Sometimes I'm on target.

Hi again! Andy, I love Gerry's songs. Epecially Sergeant Darkness. And from the first album Clarice(lay down your mind).There are plenty and I still can't count just 10 songs, America or Gerry's. I like VGG especially Playing God.

Message: 16948 Posted: Fri May 11 15:42:11 2001 By: Lori from Boca
Subject: Sir Paul

The Paul and Linda McCartney story "Wingspan" will air tonight on ABC. I read it will have actual interviews and footage of P&L's early years as well as information on the band Wings. Did George Martin ever produce for Wings?

Message: 16947 Posted: Fri May 11 15:36:10 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Angie's Top 17

Angie's definitely someone after my own heart! I've always counted HAT TRICK as my favourite America tune, and Gerry's lines are unforgettable: "Just a little of nothing, that's all you had the time to give..." and then there's the other line: "I can't unread the pages I've already read..." I wish I had known about America in high school because I would have had a few ideas for my yearbook quote.

Message: 16946 Posted: Fri May 11 15:35:36 2001 By: Lori from Boca
Subject: 3 Scores

my ultimate HATTRICK experience would be to hear GREEN MONKEY,
HERE, and MOON SONG performed live on the summer tour....rock on...

Message: 16945 Posted: Fri May 11 15:35:36 2001 By: Angie
Subject: Just a little of nothing:o)

Yes, Hat Trick is one of my favorites and also Homecoming. I thought Kiri's design was wonderful. Keep up the good work! Thanks for welcoming me. Here is a question. There is a unreleased track from the Human Nature CD sessions that was supposed to be included on the Highway box set called "How Could I Turn You Away" sung by Gerry. Maybe we will hear it soon. Has anyone heard any information?Or maybe ask Gerry:o)

Message: 16944 Posted: Fri May 11 12:55:06 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: Dan's Wallpaper

...for Dan's wallpaper...some of his art work would be cool!!

Message: 16943 Posted: Fri May 11 11:39:36 2001 By: Pat B.
Subject: Angie's Top 17

Angie must be a big "Hat Trick" (the album) fan. I counted 4 songs from HT in her top-10. I think "Hat Trick" (the album) is one of their best. By the way, isn't it Dewey's favorite? I believe I read that somewhere.

Welcome Angie.

Message: 16942 Posted: Fri May 11 10:40:01 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Which leads me too......

My last post!
I have 2 ideas swirling around for two seperate new desktops.
For all you Dewey lovers out there, the first one will be just for you! It will have fireflies, violet stones and much of the visual imagery that his lyrics conjure up!!!!!!

Our next idea is a Gerry only.......I'm thinking "God Of The Sun".....

I'll do a Dan too, but I have to sleep on THAT (I'm only alloted so many ideas a day and I've used up my quota for the week...sorry!)C=

So. What do you think?

Message: 16941 Posted: Fri May 11 10:30:11 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: re: more flattery'll.....get ya EVERYWHERE

Aw shucks, thanks! (C=
Ok, where do I send the check? (just kidding....thanks!!!!) On THAT note, I will repeat if anyone has any ideas about what THEY'D like to see (even if it's just color or a "certain photo or album cover") let me know!!! (C= Otherwise yer at MY MERCY!!!! (evil laugh inserted here)


Message: 16940 Posted: Fri May 11 10:27:29 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Kiri's Cover

MOST OUTSTANDING KIRI! I give it an A!!! (C=


Message: 16939 Posted: Fri May 11 08:50:13 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: PSA

This has been a dreadful week for me and my co-workers. We witnessed an accident, broadcast on televsion ad infinitum, that killed a co-worker and dear friend. Her death serves to remind me that life is brief, petty things do not matter. Today, in her memory, please tell someone how much they mean to you. You will be glad you did.

Message: 16938 Posted: Fri May 11 08:41:39 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Kiri's Cover

Way cool kiri. This former teacher gives you an A!

Message: 16937 Posted: Fri May 11 07:35:18 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Kiri's Cover

After several attempts and a run through my conversion software, I finally got a copy of Kiri's cover. Just click the preceding link to see it. Thanks Kiri!

Message: 16936 Posted: Fri May 11 07:11:37 2001 By: red oak
Subject: Mom's Day

This is for those of you with Moms and those of you who are Moms.
Read and learn from this:





Message: 16935 Posted: Fri May 11 06:47:52 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re: more flattery'll

.....the talent of great artists is always enhanced by someone on the outside taking the clay created by the artist, applying thier imagination and forming the clay with thier own hands.....a George Martin type..Sir Beech if you will......"you can do magic"

Message: 16934 Posted: Fri May 11 05:28:45 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: re:wallpaper & welcome

Ah, Leaky......flattery'll get you

BUT what needs to be said here is that I would NOT have ANY ART if it weren't for Henry Diltz. It's HIS work that makes these backgrounds the stand out that they are. I just "manipulate" them and add "stuff" in the background! (C= So I'll put the credit where the credit is due!! Thank you Mr. Diltz.


Message: 16933 Posted: Fri May 11 04:15:38 2001 By: Spurs
Subject: Hat Trick

Hello everyone,and a tip of the cap to Angie,this site still seems to gather fans from all over the planet.As for Hat Trick I think it sounds a bit dated as an album especially lyrically,but no doubt if Rhino get their way and remaster it from the original tape it'll sound sensational,another album that should have done much better for them.I wonder if there is any news of America's first offering being remastered,this was all mentioned a while ago.Seems no news is good news as reguarding anything new fom our chaps.As for Ingrid's photograph, perhaps not conservative but I could imagine her pulling an apple pie out of the oven.

Message: 16932 Posted: Thu May 10 18:28:18 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re:wallpaper & welcome know Beech if I were you I would see what you could do about getting those wallpapers included on the next America Music CD....a little bonus item to go along with the music....

and welcome Angie......Angieeeee (Jagger sings it much better)

Message: 16931 Posted: Thu May 10 17:58:21 2001 By: Angie
Subject: sweet 16 or 17

Okay here it is. I told you I couldn't count.
1-Hat Trick
2-Green Monkey
3-Sister Golden Hair
5-It's Life
7-Everyone I Meet Is From California
8-You Can Do Magic (Guilty 80's pleasure)
9-Hidden Talent
10-Head and Heart
11-All Around
12-Young Moon
14-Sergeant Darkness
15-Jet Boy Blue
16-Political Poachers
I came up with another one 17-My Dear.
I told you I couldn't count:O) Hope I passed.

Message: 16930 Posted: Thu May 10 17:45:37 2001 By: Angie
Subject: top 10 or so

Okay just give me some time. First one is Hat Trick if you couldn't guess. I might not be able to count either.

Message: 16929 Posted: Thu May 10 17:22:34 2001 By: msmith
Subject: more of same

robyn, now i am very envious--you having been one of the chosen few to actually have hear HAT TRICK live--like really live!! ...and angie--let's see if you can pass one of the litmus tests for being an america fan. a few months ago a lot of people on this board were listing their america top "ten". i think that everyone had a counting problem because i don't think that one of them had only ten songs in their top ten. i was pretty proud of myself when i listed my top ten in my biography recently and was able to pare it down to eleven :-)

Message: 16928 Posted: Thu May 10 17:14:32 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Are You There?

And may I add my "welcome" too? Like Robyn said it's fun in here! Hope to see you post again soon!!!

TkH<----------+=! Patch is CUTE!!!!

Message: 16927 Posted: Thu May 10 17:10:32 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Desktop Wallpaper

Thankyou AGAIN, Mr. Leaky!!! (C=
This one was kind of a pain after a while....had to put all the letters ONE BY ONE into the squares. They wouldn't line up any other, do I have too much time on my hands or WHAT?

TkH<--------+=! Rocks of Red

Message: 16926 Posted: Thu May 10 16:53:30 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Hat Trick--Hi Angie

Welcome Angie. People here are very nice ( problems like the recent ones have been rare!)

And Mark, I believe I am one of the few people here to have heard Hat Trick live and in person. It was awesome ( well ALL the shows I have been to have been amazing!)

Message: 16925 Posted: Thu May 10 16:26:00 2001 By: Angie
Subject: Hat Trick

What a great song! A piece from each member-Gerry/Dan/Dewey. I like the line "Just a little of nothing". I heard it live from this site, but it would be great to be there to hear it in person and not from my computer. Too bad that Dan couldn't join the band back for that song. How about someone filling in for a musical fantasy(I only sing if I want to crack glass.LOL)I'm trying to think of a top ten list of all America songs that I like, but it is almost impossible. I love them all. Thanks for welcoming me aboard. Oh, and if you are looking G & D - Hi:o)

Message: 16924 Posted: Thu May 10 15:53:25 2001 By: msmith
Subject: angie welcome

welcome to the board angie. always room for another HAT TRICK fan here!!

Message: 16923 Posted: Thu May 10 15:48:20 2001 By: msmith
Subject: HAT TRICK live

yes, thanks howie, i have the link (click here) linked to both my work and home computers and am greatly appreciative of the tip, but i mean live, like LIVE flesh and blood in concert live. i know that g & d read this board. maybe they'll get tired of my whining and do it sometime.

Message: 16922 Posted: Thu May 10 15:30:23 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Are You There?

Hi Angie, welcome aboard!

Message: 16921 Posted: Thu May 10 15:22:04 2001 By: Angie
Subject: Are You There?

Hi! I'm new to the chat folder. I got the courage to post. I am a America virgin and will see them for the first time this summer(But I've been a fan since forever. I'm as old as the box set-30 yrs). I wish they would play Hat Trick in concert. The VHS tape of Musik Laden Live is great, if you don't have it get it. It was funny when Gerry and Dewey asked if they could re-do songs, as they started off with Ventura Highway. I can't wait till the next CD, how about this title, "Hurry Up"- in the 'H' tradition. Also can't wait to hear another solo CD by Gerry.Hope to hear from some of you out there(Be kind).:o)

Message: 16920 Posted: Thu May 10 13:33:24 2001 By: Pat B.
Subject: Till The Sun Comes Up Again

Thanks Steve for the link to the live broadcast of Till The Sun Comes Up Again. This is one of my favorites. It was great to hear Dan's vocals in the mix. Thanks.

Message: 16919 Posted: Thu May 10 13:07:31 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: red oak; the candidate

Oh, that DWYsGirl message was from me -- OF COURSE!

Me on back-up vocals for JT doesn't work for you? Is it because my fan biography picture looks so conservative? Hint: That photo was taken for a political campaign. I can definitely do the rock 'n' roll chick thing too -- just don't have any pictures of that -- well, ones that I can show anyway. :) In fact, at the last America concert that I attended, I was asked by several people which member of the band I was dating. I said, "I'm not dating a band member," and one of the guys asking said "You're full of s---, you are too!"

"She wasn't much good at sayin' goodbye but that girl could
sing . . ." Jackson Browne

Message: 16918 Posted: Thu May 10 12:07:42 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: Desktop Wallpaper

.....great job again Beech on the Wallpaper!!!!!

Message: 16917 Posted: Thu May 10 11:42:58 2001 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Green Monkey

AMERICA has played GREEN MONKEY live for quite a long time at various times. The last time I can remember was about 4 or so years ago. It really does rock the house, just like SANDMAN, HERE, NEVER BE LONELY among others. I think it is performed live on the Musikladen DVD.

Message: 16916 Posted: Thu May 10 11:11:50 2001 By: Nina
Subject: Alan's Musical Fantasy

Alan and I share the same mission: to bring our favorite band, America, to our respective "necks of the woods". I'll almost get my wish when America plays Keene, NH again this'll be such a treat to make the short 35 minute drive from my hometown, rather than the marathon trek to the casino in CT. Hey, I'm NOT complaining! I know I'm lucky to have seen them play live quite a few times over the past two years. Still...I'd love for them to play my hometown! Wouldn't we all? (It will never happen though because we have no theaters in my small town. But...I DO have a connection with the High School auditorium. Seats 750!!!! Dewey? Gerry? Are you listening? )

Message: 16915 Posted: Thu May 10 10:57:19 2001 By: red oak
Subject: Green Monkey

While painting and listening to Highway today I can't but wonder why AMERICA doesn't perform GREEN MONKEY live! It seems like a no-brainer for outside concerts as that tune is GREAT!!!!! Does anyone know if they used to perform it or have never. Also wish they would do RAINBOW SONG, MOLTEN LOVE & YOUNG MOON.

Speaking of Red Rocks in beautiful downtown Morrison, Colorado, has AMERICA ever performed at Red Rocks? That would be my ultimate wish is to see them play Red Rocks & record it for a LIVE album. The term "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" had to be coined for Red Rocks.

Heh, Ingrid I thought you were Dewey's girl, but I saw on the other message board a message from DWYsGrl that wasn't signed by you. What gives?

Paint fumes beckon as I imagine Ingrid singing backup on stage w/James Taylor. Doesn't quite go together for me. Oh well.......

Message: 16914 Posted: Thu May 10 08:21:14 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: to MSMITH and America webcast

Yes, Howie, you can listen to Hat Trick live on the America Fans web site. Just click on the following link:

Hat Trick (from 1973 Philadelphia concert broadcast)

Here are a few others you might be interested in:

Till The Sun Comes Up Again (from 1973 Toronto concert)
Things We Said Today (from October 2, 1999 Atlantic City concert)

Message: 16913 Posted: Wed May 09 23:58:25 2001 By: Gorky
Subject: Signed poster for Ebay Charity Auction

Here’s your chance to own a poster celebrating AMERICA’s 30-year career. The 18” X 24” poster has the classic AMERICA logo at the top and below there is a blue sky with clouds, a long highway with fields along the sides, and the words “HIGHWAY: 30 YEARS OF AMERICA”. The poster is signed in bold, black marker by founding members Gerry Beckley and Dewey Bunnell. This poster celebrates the only retrospective spanning the entire career of the band whose hits include A HORSE WITH NO NAME, VENTURA HIGHWAY, SISTER GOLDEN HAIR, TIN MAN. You won’t want to miss out on owning this piece of musical history. BID NOW.

Check out our other auctions that are going on now and keep an eye out for more great stuff to hit the auction block when this auction ends.

All of the proceeds from this item will benefit Sweet Relief Musicians Fund. For the past six years Sweet Relief has been assisting ill, injured or elderly musicians with costs of alternative and traditional medical treatments, and with expenses for basic needs.

Message: 16912 Posted: Wed May 09 20:47:52 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Thanks

to all who joined me this evening. Chat again next week ( being ROBIN, I can say) same bat time same bat channel.

Message: 16911 Posted: Wed May 09 17:33:50 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Hail To The Chief!

CONGRATULATIONS, ERIN! Overworked or no, it's cool!!!!!! Good work!

TkH<------+=! Been there DONE that (C=

Message: 16910 Posted: Wed May 09 17:32:33 2001 By: Terry T.
Subject: Re: to MSMITH and America webcast

I believe that was a RealPlayer webcast of Jesse Ventura's inaguration party.

Message: 16909 Posted: Wed May 09 17:09:25 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: to MSMITH and America webcast

You can hear Hat Trick live on this site.
Right Steve!!!!!!!!!!

Hey, anyone remember when a radio station I believe webcast one of America's concert! Does anybody know the site and if it's still available to see.

Message: 16908 Posted: Wed May 09 15:36:44 2001 By: msmith
Subject: musical fantasies

to hear HAT TRICK live in concert before i croak.

Message: 16907 Posted: Wed May 09 14:12:02 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Beechlady's fantasy

"Or maybe I can make a donation to the Society for the Protection of Battery Operated Animals."

Ingrid, I know of a very nice 6500 LBS Ford Excursion whose tire has the Energizer Bunny's name on it :O)

Andy <---Who will gladly play with Jewel...or at least carry her
guitar case :)

Message: 16906 Posted: Wed May 09 14:07:07 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Musical fantasies

"What is your ultimate music playing or performing fantasy? Not who you'd like to see play or perform together -- although that could be another topic -- but with whom would YOU like to play or perform?"

It is one of those questions that's totally moot. I'd love to experience America, Sarah McLachlan, or Al Stewart...but I'd certainly faint on front of them, especially if I had a guitar. I have a hunch that guitar players that are passed out don't play all that well.

Andy <----knows where fantasy ends and making a jack*** out of oneself
begins :)

Message: 16905 Posted: Wed May 09 14:03:03 2001 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Musical fantasies

OK, I'll come out of lurkdom for this one. First a little setup:

Last summer a couple of female country artists came to my remote neck of the woods (I didn't see either concert - I'm not a big fan of C&W). Tanya Tucker came to my home town and played at the local fairgrounds & Trisha Yearwood came to the Skowhegan fairgrounds (45 minutes from my house). In both cases they had local bands as the warm up act. At the Tanya Tucker concert, she invited a local woman who was a big fan to come up on the stage and sing a song with her.

So here's MY fantasy:

To bring America to my community (either of the above-mentioned venues would do nicely), have Loose Ends (my band) be the warm-up act, get invited up on stage to play and sing a song with the guys (I know quite a few America tunes although I never quite got around to submitting any for the contest) and finally, get to hang out with the band backstage after the show.

OK, I actually have another fantasy:

To get my CD recorded (at the rate I'm going, there's a remote chance it may happen before I die or get too old to play guitar), give it to Dewey and Gerry and ask them to listen to it, and have them like one of the songs so much they would ask my permission to record it and include it on their next album. (While I'm at, how about they release it as a single, it shoots straight up to #1, America is back at the top where they belong and I retire early and live off the royalties).

Hey, I figure if I'm going to fantasize, I may as well make it a BIG one. Either of these fantasies coming true would be great. Both would be even better!

Message: 16904 Posted: Wed May 09 13:48:12 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Chat

Please join me for the weekly chat. I will be there after 7. Everyone is welcome, so don't be shy and I hope to see you there!

Message: 16903 Posted: Wed May 09 12:25:55 2001 By: Erin
Subject: nothing really

You know what I noticed this past weekend? Horse With No Name is in the Mel Gibson movie Air America...kind of. I never knew that! Hope you're all having a great week. Only 3 months until Reno!! I don't know about the rest of you, but I can't wait. I just got promoted to chief video editor at the tv station i work at, and it's killing me. I need another vacation....Happy Wednesday, everyone!!

Erin :o)

Message: 16902 Posted: Wed May 09 09:46:45 2001 By: Ingrid
Subject: Beechlady's fantasy

I know you're feeling charitable, but I'd pay to see that. Or maybe I can make a donation to the Society for the Protection of Battery Operated Animals. Red Rocks is indeed the ultimate venue.

Message: 16901 Posted: Wed May 09 08:14:12 2001 By: MikeC
Subject: America 45's for sale

Before I post these on ebay, I thought I'd see if anyone here had any interest. For more detailed information, please email me at Thanks....Mike
Tin Man, All Around, Cast the Spirit, Ventura Highway, Don't Cross the River, Today's the Day, Who Loves You, She's a Liar, Don't Cry Baby, God of The Sun, All My Life, Rainbow Song, Only In Your Heart, Special Girl.

Message: 16900 Posted: Wed May 09 08:07:31 2001 By: MikeC
Subject: America 45's for sale

Before I post these on ebay, I thought I'd see if anyone here had any interest. For more detailed information, please email me at Thanks....Mike
Tin Man, All Around, Cast the Spirit, Ventura Highway, Don't Cross the River, Today's the Day, Who Loves You, She's a Liar, Don't Cry Baby, God of The Sun, All My Life, Rainbow Song, Only In Your Heart, Special Girl.

Message: 16899 Posted: Wed May 09 05:01:17 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Musical fantasies

Ok, I'll bite!

Since I "do" Jazz and World Music, I'm performing on my keyboards at Red Rocks in Colorado (NOT A STADIUM-I'm "big" enough but prefer the "coziness" and acoustics of a setting built for performances!). Clarence Clemons is blowing sax, John Taylor is playing bass, I have a drum machine (just kidding Andy and co.!!!)- no Dave Brubeck on skins and Lee Ritnour (sp?-it ain't my strong suit at 8 a.m.) or George Benson or Ottmar Liebert on guitar! Ah, life would be grand! It'd be a FREE CONCERT (I'm in a charitable mood). Access Hollywood and Entertainment Tonight would be fawning just back stage! I'd be nominated for 3 or 4 Grammy awards (SONG of the YEAR, ALBUM of the YEAR are two that come to mind) and I'd fly ALL MY FRIENDS and family in for it!!!!!!

TkH<------+=! ah, the power of cheese!

Message: 16898 Posted: Tue May 08 23:30:34 2001 By: ingrid
Subject: Musical fantasies

Okay -- don't get nervous. In this PARTICULAR post, I'll make no mention of wanting to date your boyfriend or your son, or anyone who reminds you of your boyfriend or your son, or of wanting to do anything violent to the Energizer bunny.

It's clear from the song contest that there are folder members with musical ability, so my question is: What is your ultimate music playing or performing fantasy? Not who you'd like to see play or perform together -- although that could be another topic -- but with whom would YOU like to play or perform? My ultimate musical fantasy has remained unchanged for 15 years, and it is to sing back-up vocals for James Taylor in concert. I was reminded of this today because I purchased his Greatest Hits Volume 2 CD, and not only do I love his music, it just so happens that my vocal range is a perfect fit for his back-up. And I already know the songs -- how convenient!

I realize that my answer is "off-topic," but I assume that there are those whose answers include our band America. So, anyone else want to play?

Message: 16897 Posted: Tue May 08 21:18:20 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Energizer Bunny-esp. for Andy

"Andy, expect a knock on your door soon as the investigation WILL be underway by Peter Cotton Tail!!! "

Ummm...there WAS a knock at my door earlier, but it was some guy calling himself Inspector Mills. LOL

!!! I have contacted PETA on the probability of the abuse of bunnies and this is not just an ordinary bunny!!!

PETA? Eh...I'll just bribe them with a cheese burger, and we'll call it even.

By the way, Miss Lisa, how did those cement sneakers work out for you during your half marathon? LOL

Andy <--------in desperate need of healing

Message: 16896 Posted: Tue May 08 20:19:03 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Kingbiscuitradio offer

Check out --click on store. This month they are featuring America. If you purchase the live CD or Human Nature--it will be autographed by Gerry and Dewey.

Message: 16895 Posted: Tue May 08 19:48:04 2001 By: kiri
Subject: Re: killing time

well dan, vernon hills appears to be in the northern suburbs of chicago, west of interstate 94 (about a 3 hour drive for me), and from what i can tell it will be outdoors and it will be a free show. never been there myself but it sounds perfect.

Message: 16894 Posted: Tue May 08 19:43:25 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Energizer Bunny-esp. for Andy

I am highly offended by Andy and the rest of you in reference to the Energizer Bunny. Perhaps to you, it is a joke but to me that Bunny -mechanical as it may be-represents a living creature and for you to mock it as such is very distastful to say the least!!! I have contacted PETA on the probability of the abuse of bunnies and this is not just an ordinary bunny!!! Andy, expect a knock on your door soon as the investigation WILL be underway by Peter Cotton Tail!!! I am sorry that I had to report you but you have to understand, this energizer bunnies mean so much to me---:(!!!!

Message: 16893 Posted: Tue May 08 18:07:20 2001 By: Dan
Subject: Re: killing time

Kiri, I know where Grant Park is but have no idea where Vernon Hills is. I looked on the atlas but no luck. Could you shed some light on this place for me and hopefully we can mahe it there. Also do you know whether its an outside venue? I much prefer the sounds of "our band" riding on the summer breezes, bugs and all. Thanks,DanC.

P.S. no rancor from this bunny's stage.....energize me Scotty

Message: 16892 Posted: Tue May 08 16:42:14 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Energizer Bunny

Not only "Bunny Abuse" but definitely "Funny Abuse"----->Andy and Kevin.

Many ++++++++++++++++++++++++ thoughts to you Janice!!!

Message: 16891 Posted: Tue May 08 15:47:40 2001 By: Janice
Subject: About this Folder...

Very funny Kevin..and Andy..I agree that everyone does treat each other with respect..and (as one fan wrote to me today and I hope he does not mind me quoting him), "we are connected by a thread of the internet and a common band"..I have never met this person who wrote to me and was deeply touched. Most of us have shared very intimate details of our lives..the birth of grandchildren, children's health problems, divorce, marriage, births, deaths, surgery, accidents and the loss of pets. Add to that triumphs and tribulations of our kids..and of course our shared love of a band that many of us grew up with. It seems to me that someone of a great mind..hmmmm..once said "There is never a reason to be unkind" (or words to that effect)...thanks for the hug and for the wonderful mail I received today. God bless all of you. :-)

Message: 16890 Posted: Tue May 08 15:08:20 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: Energizer Bunny.

Programmable drums. They keep sucking and sucking and sucking...


Message: 16889 Posted: Tue May 08 14:40:34 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Flaming--having my say

"Andy; how dare you flame the Energizer Bunny! He's got feelings too!


Yup. Go ahead and cuff me. Read me my Miranda rights. Charge me with "Bunny Abuse" :P


Message: 16888 Posted: Tue May 08 12:08:29 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: For Janice

Wishing you the BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, those funnies are on their way!!


Message: 16887 Posted: Tue May 08 11:51:05 2001 By: Pat B.
Subject: Re: Flaming--having my say

Andy; how dare you flame the Energizer Bunny! He's got feelings too!


Message: 16886 Posted: Tue May 08 08:08:44 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Flaming--having my say

"“I may not agree with what you say, but I defend to the death your right to say it.” I also firmly believe that if someone says something that offends you, it is incumbent upon you to say so, but nicely and without rancor. "

This is true, Robyn. One of the things that I have appreciated about this message board is the overall amount of respect for those that disagree with a given viewpoint. On a personal note, my frequent rantings against synthesizers and drum machines (and the Energizer Bunny) come to mind. That level of respect has always been the hallmark of the America board and America fans.


Message: 16885 Posted: Tue May 08 07:06:41 2001 By: Nina
Subject: Reply to Bones

Have I started counting the days yet? I CERTAINLY have! Each year seems to get more difficult...and it's been 8 years since I had one of those "good" classes that teachers dream about! Glad you made it to at least one show on Saturday...we held a seat for you! Try to make it to Boston in June...or, at least Keene, NH in October. It's just not the same without you! (Hey, where's Gary H.?) (Have you spoken to him lately?) (Has he moved yet?)

Message: 16884 Posted: Tue May 08 06:04:56 2001 By: Janice
Subject: Nuthin' much...

Hi everyone..I haven't even been lurking lately and am taking the time to scroll this morning as I sip my AM coffee. A lively place, this folder and I am excited to see more chapters to read in Dans' bio. A word for a few that get worked up here..Life is too damn short..let it the band, love the music..
A few of you know of my predicament..awaiting once again for test results..and surgery is scheduled for next Tues. Getting by with the help of Mom and Dad who are in from CA, my kids and some very dear friends. Oh yes, and a few valium.
I'm here at home for now, so please feel free to e-mail, send funny stuff..not so funny stuff..any stuff..I consider you all to be my friends..some I have met and others I have yet to meet. Group Hug.
Janice :-)

Message: 16883 Posted: Mon May 07 19:44:07 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Flaming--having my say

Ok. I have to get this off my chest, so anyone who might be offended by my honest feelings is advised to stop reading now

Recently, several of our colleagues here in the chat folder have received negative or flaming messages. These messages have been unsigned or under a presumed identity. In my opinion, this is the height of cowardice. I was raised to believe that you stood behind your words. My father often quoted Thomas Paine (at least I think it was Thomas Paine, could be wrong here) “I may not agree with what you say, but I defend to the death your right to say it.” I also firmly believe that if someone says something that offends you, it is incumbent upon you to say so, but nicely and without rancor. There is no excuse for treating another person here without the respect that they deserve. We are all here for one reason, our love of the music of the band America. We do them and ourselves no honor in cutting one another down.
Thank you.

Message: 16882 Posted: Mon May 07 18:55:59 2001 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Mohegun Sun/Update

Nina, was nice seeing you. Guess seeing one show is better than seeing no shows. Have you started counting the days yet?

Message: 16881 Posted: Mon May 07 18:32:58 2001 By: kiri
Subject: killing time

listening to my "view from the ground" cd i picked up this weekend. also got a sinatra and scored a donald fagen i've been looking for. very cool. can't find the new neil finn in stores - has anyone?

speaking of very cool, 2 july shows in illinois?!!...hope i can make it to both. anyone else already planning on it?

i'm putting off doing a writing sample for a copywriter position i interviewed for last week. have to write some ad copy about linoleum floors to give them tomorrow. brick wall = my brain.

Message: 16880 Posted: Mon May 07 17:17:36 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Behind The Music - 1975

>other than the fact that it was Beechlady's first year of high school

UM, I wish that WERE actually significant in some sort of way.....lolololol

TkH<------+=! significant OTHER

Message: 16879 Posted: Mon May 07 17:11:35 2001 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Behind The Music - 1975

While they were doing the John Denver segment, they showed a Billboard chart with Thank God I'm a country boy (I think) At #1, what I noticed was at #2 was Sister Golden Hair, which also went to #1!!
I think America was robbed!! Nothing against J.D or K.C, but I think AMERICA made more of a musical contibution than some of the other people they had on the show.

Message: 16878 Posted: Mon May 07 13:40:00 2001 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Behind The Music - 1975

BTM has to pump up every subject they do a show on. They are in the business for ratings not historical accuracy. Though I will say in John Denver's defense, I believe he was the biggest selling act in 1975. That was his peek year and he was very popular where I was. "Back Home Again" was a very good album.

I think the fact that BTM has to pump up a year like 1975 (which I don't recall as being a pacticularly significant year, other than the fact that it was Beechlady's first year of high school) shows that they are running out of ideas for shows. Hey BTM, I have an idea for a show that wouldn't need pumping because they were one of the biggest acts of the 70s: DO A SHOW ON AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Message: 16877 Posted: Mon May 07 13:17:14 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: More Phobicman Photos

Thanks for posting them Steve. For those of you who couldn't guess, that's me with ShariL ( in my Go Man Go t-shirt)

Message: 16876 Posted: Mon May 07 12:55:07 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: 2000 Staff Pass

Gene Murrell made up a Staff Pass last year for the 2000 tour and thought he would pass it on for me to show. Gerry seemed to like it when Gene showed it to him down in Florida.

By the way, Gene has a new web site at if you want to check it out. He's been working on it and just signed up with a REAL server (he has had it with the free server crap). So in the next week or two all the links should be up and running.

We wish you all the luck in the world, Gene. Thanks for sharing that cool Staff Pass with us (click here to see the pass).

Message: 16875 Posted: Mon May 07 12:42:20 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: More Phobicman Photos

Here are some more Phobicman photos from Robyn:

Photo #1
Photo #2
Photo #3
Photo #4
Photo #5
Photo #6
Photo #7
Photo #8

Message: 16874 Posted: Mon May 07 12:24:50 2001 By: Pete
Subject: Re: Behind The Music - 1975

I believe that happens to all muscians who pass away.

Message: 16873 Posted: Mon May 07 11:52:36 2001 By: ingrid
Subject: Re: Behind The Music - 1975

Daryl Dragon (the "Captain" of Captain and Tenille) still wears that silly hat . . . They live at Lake Tahoe -- I rode in a gondola with her at a ski resort there several years ago -- she was very friendly and effervescent.

K.C. and the Sunshine Band still tour. I saw them in concert last year and they were good. He was too adorable for words in the 70's.

If you're a Springsteen fan, you'll really like the final 20 minutes of this one -- powerful segment on him.

I thought that the funniest line of the show was when P.J. O'Rourke of Rolling Stone magazine said, "We found out that when rock stars get rich, they act pretty much the same way other people act when they get rich, only in worse clothes."

Message: 16872 Posted: Mon May 07 11:50:41 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Behind The Music - 1975

RE John Denver. I remember waiting in line for about 5 hours to buy tickets for his weeklong stand at the Universal Ampiteatre ( pre roof days, so about 1973?) Anyway. I think you are right about BTM, bing written by kids. The reason for the John Denver nostalgia these days is that plane crash has made him better than he was. People tend to wear rose colored glasses when gazing on someone who is no longer with us.

Message: 16871 Posted: Mon May 07 10:36:34 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Behind The Music - 1975

Yeah, over all Shayne I felt the same was like the show was written by kids who weren't even BORN THEN.......Having lived THRU 1975 (my first year of H.S.) it sure seemed a little "different" than what they wanted to portray.....BTW, it's nice to give John Denver his due NOW (yeah, now that he's in another place-I'm NOT knocking him BTW) but I remember back in '75 his music was total RIDICULE where I was all Doobies (before Mr. McD), Aerosmith and Black Sabbath! (Uh Oh. THAT'S WHERE she GOT THAT...lololol) Rock ON babies, ROCK ON....Politics aside, in Lake Odessa (where I grew up) it was the old midwestern "weeeeelllp, geuess that's that" mentality. I suspect that a LOT of the country was that way.....

TkH<------+=! Dating Carbon

Message: 16870 Posted: Mon May 07 07:26:14 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: A Message From Minnesota

Here's a message I received from Dan Menard of Hutchinson, MN:

"I just want to say thanks for putting on such a great show at Jackpot Junction Casino in Morton Minnesota. I,ve been trying since 1973 to get to one of your concerts, and I know that really dates myself, but it was worth it. I've been a hugh fan since I picked up your first album in 1972, and haven't stopped buying them since. I did bring one of my son's with me to the concert, and before the concert you could tell he was just there just to make his pop happy, but when the concert was over he looked at me and said pop, these guy's rock. When we got in the car he got a pretty good laugh after he asked me how I liked the concert and I looked at him and said life's almost complete. We did have a great time together. Years ago I used to play in a band and for years I've wanted to get back to playing so believe it or not I've been trying to work out as many America songs as I can and then try to put a band together again. My family says it's that mid life thing, but I really don't think so I just love music. So If you guys have a chance and want to help me out with chord patterns and lead riffs it would be very helpful, but If your schdule doesn't permit this I understand. Thanks again for a great night at Morton, Mn."

Message: 16869 Posted: Mon May 07 06:54:25 2001 By: Nina
Subject: Mohegun Sun/Update

daisyjane64 posted that "we lost our place in line for the second show due to our chat with Gerry". While this fact is correct, and she and her husband left, America aficianado that I am... I took my chances and waited in the LONG line for the second show, "just in case"! And I was rewarded for my efforts! Got a decent seat and enjoyed the second set of the night, which the guys changed slightly to include the tunes "Hangover" and "Wheels". Both shows were's wonderful to hear and see them live. There was a little feed-back during the first show, which I think surprised the band more than the "where did that come from!" Didn't get to speak to Dewey, but Gerry was his charming self...talking with fans and signing autographs. (Lisa, I hope that darn photo that I took with your fancy "techno-camera" comes out! "If" it comes out, thank Gerry who instructed me on camera usage!) Got to chat with fello fan, Bones, who arrived too late for the first show, but arrived in time for the second. Nice seeing you, Bones!

Message: 16868 Posted: Mon May 07 06:33:21 2001 By: Shayne
Subject: Behind The Music - 1975

Well, last night VH-1's behind the music was about 1975. The only reference I saw (heard) from AMERICA was that they played LONELY People about 3 minutes in. I was surprised about a few things with the show. Most notably the audulation given to John Denver. Now, I don't mean to belittle him, he was a talented songwriter, but to compare him to Elvis and the Beatles...Come on, now. The program spent too much time talking about the shifting attitudes of AMericans. The problem is they were not always accurate. Yes, we were glad to be out of Vietnam. Yes, we were glad that Watergate was over. But to assume these are the reasons the Captain and Tenielle were popular is ludicrous. There were bubble gum pop bands that were popular before them, before Watergate and before Nixon. I think VH-1 took the music of 1975 (didn't LONELY PEOPLE come out in '74 - then again VENTURA HIGHWAY came out in '73), and somehow made it be the reason that 1975 was the way it was.

Maybe I'm not making sense (wouldn't be the first time). But I was disappointed in the whole production.


Message: 16867 Posted: Mon May 07 04:12:52 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Mohegan Sun / Lisa's Marathon

Okay, now the truth comes out. I didn't show up at Lisa's marathon because she refused to try out my new invention for the race: my patented new running shoes made of cement. My ego was just too bruised. Some people just can't show appreciation. LOL

So, tho those that went to the Connecticut show, how was it? Was it the "short set" done twice? I wish that I could have gone, but at least May 25 (NYC) is coming up soon.


Message: 16866 Posted: Sun May 06 22:04:23 2001 By: ingrid
Subject: Rick B. and Innsbrook

Might be there, might be there . . . . My godson, Matthew, lives in Richmond. What kind of a godmother would I be if I didn't introduce him to America live?! Maybe I'll let his parents go too.

Message: 16865 Posted: Sun May 06 21:22:43 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: To: Jeff B and LisaRose

No Jeff, I haven't heard/seen "One Night Only". Thanks for the info.

LisaRose, the Kyle Vincent song that Gerry and Robert Lamm sing background vocals on is called, "I Use To Love The Girl". It's a very nice song as is the whole CD.

Message: 16864 Posted: Sun May 06 19:23:21 2001 By: Rick Bolling
Subject: song contest

Hey folks,
I haven't posted in long time but I do keep up and I want to say thanks for the song comments and a big thanks to Howard for getting this together(beautiful twelve string playing Howie!). I really enjoyed hearing the other artist. Wouldn't it be fun if we could all get together and jam!!!?

Is anybody going to the Richmond,VA show at Insbrook on June the 6th? Joe Knight, are you going? I'll write more later.


Message: 16863 Posted: Sun May 06 17:33:04 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Various responses

Thanks to you guys for wishing me good luck today in the run---Andy never showed up so I didn't have to tow him which made it a lot easier!! Thanks for posting the review Steve and thanks to Michelle too. It sounded like the Milwaukee show was fabulous. In reference to the Mohegan show--Lisa--shame on you for losing your spot!!!LOL!! If I was there I would have saved you a spot (whom am I kidding -I probably would have been talking right along with you guys.) In any event---I am so sorry, I missed it and seeing you guys again too (and so are my legs). Johnny, what is the name of that Kyle Vincent song?? Ingrid, I think in the future email should be like caller ID and you get all the information of the writer---maybe that will happen one day--if it does--you know who thought of it first!!!

Message: 16862 Posted: Sun May 06 16:09:39 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Permission Granted

As luck would have it, I received a message from Michelle just minutes after posting the last message. She gave me permission to share the information with you. So, I don't have to worry about getting forgiveness this time. Thanks Michelle!

Message: 16861 Posted: Sun May 06 15:59:15 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Milwaukee concert and Michelle A.

Michelle also sent me a mail message about the show but I have been waiting for her permission to post it here. Since I see that she already posted a similar message on the message board, I guess it's OK to post it (this is one of those situations where I'll have to get forgiveness rather than permission-LOL). Here's what Michelle had to say:

"Thursday evening, May 3, we just saw a terrific show at Potawatomi Bingo & Casino in Milwaukee, WI. My husband, friends, and I were treated to a really awesome show (are there any others?). We had a front row table, but unfortunately they didn't allow us to take pictures (although I really wanted to). However, Gerry came out at the end with his digital camera and took some pictures of the audience. I was wearing a denim vest that I had decorated with homemade pins of all of America's albums. I was trying to get his attention and finally did. He came closer and took a look at the vest and then proceeded to take a picture of it and me. I just wanted to say that if you get the picture from him and it makes the web site (which I really hope it does) that the picture was of me. I thought you might want to put a name with a face for the caption.

"We were also able to acquire a playlist and a guitar picks from Gerry and Woodsy. I have always wanted those. Unfortunately no autographs afterwards. awesome show."

Message: 16860 Posted: Sun May 06 15:48:27 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Argh, Teenagers

Guess what emanated out of my bass playing daughters room today?
Iron Man. Black
At least she's not Goth (yet).....

TkH<---------+=! Humming doesn't have the same effect.....

Message: 16859 Posted: Sun May 06 15:19:01 2001 By: ingrid
Subject: Milwaukee concert and Michelle A.

Michelle A. posted to the Ventura Highway message board about the Milwaukee concert. Michelle, if you read this, will you tell us more about your homemade pins?

Another "crafty" America fan.

Message: 16858 Posted: Sun May 06 13:54:41 2001 By: jeff brink
Subject: Bee Gees...Ingrid and Johnny

Johnny, Have you seen ONE NIGHT ONLY by the Bee Gees? It's on cd too.

Ingrid, I highly recommend the latest Bee Gee cd THIS IS WHERE I CAME IN...I'm up to liking 5 0f the 12 songs now.

Thanks again to Mr. Lowry for this site.

carry on....JB

Message: 16857 Posted: Sun May 06 13:14:19 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Kyle Vincent's Liner Notes

Gerry and Robert Lamm provided background vocals on one of singer/songwriter Kyle Vincent's songs from his self-titled CD that came out in 1997. In the liner notes is an unusual mention:

"Robert Lamm and Gerry Beckley appear through the courtesy of their mothers."

Remember the 70s group from Canada, Edward Bear? Kyle Vincent, I think, sounds a lot like Edward Bear's lead singer.

Just for the record, I too have done some digging these last few days and as a result, I remain fixed and unmoved in who I believe is Ingrid's flamer. And this also for the record, my past flamer finally admitted to me just a couple of months ago that he indeed was the guilty party.

Saw the Bee Gees on "Live By Request" just the other night. They were great. They sounded just as good as ever! One of the twins is a real cut-up.

Message: 16856 Posted: Sun May 06 11:15:57 2001 By: daisyjane64
Subject: Mohegan Sun

Last night the guys gave a great show as usual but unfortunately couldn't see second show cause Nina,my husband and myself lost our place in line when we were talking to Gerry.I was able to get a picture with him and as soon as I get it developed i will sent it to Steve to post.It was great to see you again Nina.Looking forward to Boston next month.Lisa

Message: 16855 Posted: Sun May 06 07:57:09 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Flamers

Basically "those people" have way too much time on their hands. If they'd channel that energy to something useful (volunteerism, charities) just think of what a great place the world would be!!!! Instead of "wasting time" pissing people off, you could end up doing something good for someone else AND YOURSELF! Guess they just all need professional help (anger management)and this is either all they can afford or are "BRAVE" enough to muster.....

Just an opinion!

TkH<-------+=! The Dr. is

Message: 16854 Posted: Sun May 06 02:02:23 2001 By: Pat B.
Subject: Re: I got a scolding!

I posted my post before finding out that the "Get-Back-Chick" flammer is an imposter.

If Dewey's girlfriend is innocent of flamming, then I would like to apologize. Sorry.

Message: 16853 Posted: Sun May 06 01:29:38 2001 By: Pat B.
Subject: Re: I got a scolding!


I agree with you 100%.

It was obvious to me that your post was not intended for anything other than harmless humor. In fact the majority of your posts are humorous. (at least to me).

Heck, the way I see it is that fan adoration is quite a normal thing. It comes with being a famous musical star, which Dewey is. Remember the audience's reaction (particularly the females) to the Beatles' performance on Ed Sullivan's televison show?

I think that it's very sad for Dewey's girlfriend to view you as a threat. Does she really believe that she can't trust him?

Message: 16852 Posted: Sat May 05 21:31:32 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Song Contest

I just listened to all the submissions again. Let me tell you I am impressed by all the musical talent. A couple of you guys are really channeling Gerry on the vocals ( that's not a BAD thing!) I am NOT voting for a favorite. Everyone who had the courage to submit is a winner in my book!

Message: 16851 Posted: Sat May 05 21:18:56 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Mohegun Sun Re-visited!/ANDY

"But you are if yer towing ANDY.....lololol Let us know how you finished!!!! (C=

So Andy, did you bring Candy? (C;


If Miss Lisa is going to be towing me, I'd be better off bringing an ambulance than a few pieces of candy. LOL

Andy <-----In serious need of a "time out"

Message: 16850 Posted: Sat May 05 19:40:32 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Good luck LisaRose

Personally I run to a LOT of things, but pavement isn't one of

TkH<-----+=! running OUT

Message: 16849 Posted: Sat May 05 19:39:28 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Fan Sounds & Summer Tour

>I'll be seeing them as they pass through Salt Lake City on a Windwave.

Yeah, yeah, RUB IT IN MIKE.....lolololol.......

TkH<-----------+=! "windwave? I got yer windwave right here....." ROFL

Message: 16848 Posted: Sat May 05 19:37:55 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Good luck LisaRose

Personally, I never understood the concept of "run for Fun" (run for FEAR, sure!) YOU GO GIRL!

Message: 16847 Posted: Sat May 05 19:37:16 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Mohegun Sun Re-visited!/ANDY

No not nuts!!!! But you are if yer towing ANDY.....lololol Let us know how you finished!!!! (C=

So Andy, did you bring Candy? (C;

TkH<-------+=! <---------likin' those Reeses Sticks....

Message: 16846 Posted: Sat May 05 17:25:25 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Mohegun Sun Re-visited!/ANDY

Thanks Beech--I can use all the luck I can get!!! I can't believe I am giving up seeing America for this!!! I must be nuts!

Message: 16845 Posted: Sat May 05 12:19:11 2001 By: ingrid
Subject: GLH and "Get Back Chick"

I think that GLH has been falsely accused of sending me the "Get Back Chick" e-mail flames about Dewey. I did some "digging" yesterday and I think I know exactly who it was. But it will be SOOOOOO embarrassing for this person if I tell, I haven't yet decided if I will. I did hear that GLH was at the concert Thursday night -- how about a review? (I'm serious.)

Oh, and I'm considering a change of my screen name to DWYSGIRL -- get it? Dewey's girl :)

GET USED TO IT, it's part of the territory . . . .

Message: 16844 Posted: Sat May 05 07:52:57 2001 By: Mike B
Subject: Fan Sounds & Summer Tour

I enjoyed listening to all those America sounds from the Fans. My top three picks today: Howard's 12 string, Terry's Three Roses, and Ric's daring muskrat/medley to hostile muskrat fans. Dead last - Mike B's Wednesday Morning. Thanks FANS and Howard for all the time you put into this.

What is the difference between the Spring and Summer Tour. Answer: Number of shows America plays. America will be very busy in June and July, and I'll be seeing them as they pass through Salt Lake City on a Windwave.

Message: 16843 Posted: Sat May 05 07:51:40 2001 By: Mike B
Subject: Fan Sounds & Summer Tour

I enjoyed listening to all those America sounds from the Fans. My top three picks today: Howard's 12 string, Terry's Three Roses, and Ric's daring muskrat/medley to hostile muskrat fans. Dead last - Mike B's Wednesday Morning. Thanks FANS and Howard for all the time you put into this.

What is the difference between the Spring and Summer Tour. Answer: Number of shows America plays. America will be very busy in June and July, and I'll be seeing them as they pass through Salt Lake City on a Windwave.

Message: 16842 Posted: Sat May 05 06:45:28 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: One last thing (a PSA)

Ok, now I can feel frustrated when I say..........

"I WANT MY @#$%^& WINDWAVE (live)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

There. Thank you for my ability to

TkH<---------+=! Day late, Dollar Short....

Message: 16841 Posted: Sat May 05 06:43:22 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: America Song Contest/a deux

Ok, not to exclude any keyboard players out there.....DUH, Tery.
Anyway, like I said EVERYONE sounded cool!!!!!

TkH<------+=! Not reading what I post

Message: 16840 Posted: Sat May 05 06:39:40 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: America Song Contest Answers

AMEN, BROTHER on the Matt's Monster thaaaaaaaaaaaang! V-E-R-Y nice (but what ELSE should we expect, eh?)!!!!

I loved listening to EVERYONE, there was some heady guitar pickin' goin' on in there and some pretty nice harmonies to boot! I'm quite impressed by the talent out there in etherland!!!! (C= You GO folks!

TkH<--------+=! Where there's expectation........

Message: 16839 Posted: Sat May 05 06:28:17 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Mohegun Sun Re-visited!/ANDY

ROFL!!!!!! Maybe you could also serve snacks and throw candy at the people watching.....

Good Luck LisaRose! I'll be sending you some positive vibes! (C=

TkH<------+=! No marathoner here....sigh

Message: 16838 Posted: Fri May 04 22:04:39 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: various responses

Anytime anyone opens their mouth, they run the risk of offending someone. It is nice to be able to say "I am offended" and have the other person uderstand without rancor.

Thanks for your candid response Ingrid. Also to Virginia for posting her comments.

Message: 16837 Posted: Fri May 04 21:57:26 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: America Song Contest Answers

I think we have given everyone plenty of time to guess who is singing what songs on the America Song Contest. The answers have been posted on the bottom of the Contest Page. I'd like to hear now, which songs you like best and why. I think we all enjoyed Matt's Monster but how about the other 10 songs? Thanks again to Howie for putting this together and for the 11 participants!

Message: 16836 Posted: Fri May 04 20:29:39 2001 By: Randy
Subject: Re: Finally!

Another satisfied fan from the Milwaukee show!

Message: 16835 Posted: Fri May 04 19:31:26 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Finally!

Here's a note I received tonight from a fan in Milwaukee:

"I've waited 20 years to see America, and last night I finally got my chance. They came to Milwaukee and played. They've been here before and in the area in the past, but everytime I've had tickets I couldn't go and had to sell them. Either that or I was out of town or was sick. (I was beginning to think I'd never see them.)

"Last night's show was well worth the wait!! They were fantastic!!
Needless to say it won't be the last time. The only downer to the whole experience was that they didn't have any merchandise to sell. Oh well in time too I guess."

Ken Franz

Message: 16834 Posted: Fri May 04 18:47:25 2001 By: Randy
Subject: Obscure Album Cuts

I'm glad that you liked our reviews, Ingrid.
I can't remember if it was Dewey or Gerry who got a nice response from the crowd when describing some of the songs as "obscure album cuts". If I can bother the fans with one more post, I'll mention my favorite obscure album cuts played.
-Riverside; First song on the first album qualifies this gem to be the first song in a concert. That instrumental beginning always get my adrenaline flowing.
-Windwave; Third time that I've heard it live. It just keeps getting better.
-Three Roses
-Wheels are Turning; I'm not sure if this one qualifies or not.
-Hangover; this one also keeps sounding better every time.
-Never Be Lonely; I can't explain why I like this song so much when played live. Maybe it's Dewey's way of playing the acoustic guitar.
One more comment: Things We Said Today is neither obscure nor an America album cut. The alternating lead vocals between Dewey and Gerry just seems right. But, then again, we all know that.

Message: 16833 Posted: Fri May 04 18:26:12 2001 By: Randy
Subject: Kevin's review

Thank you, Kevin, for nore accurately describing some of last night's highlights. I'm glad to see that you also noticed how well Dewey sounded. I especially enjoyed your observations about "America Virgins". I always tell them, that you ain't lived until you've seen America in concert. Those comments by Gerry about Dewey's "girl's guitar" really got a big chuckle out of me. Likewise, with Gerry's line about having a copy of the movie California Dreaming in Betamax. I'm a recovering Betaphile who is making a transition to DVD.

Message: 16832 Posted: Fri May 04 18:22:25 2001 By: ingrid
Subject: Concert reviews

Great reviews and stories, Kevin and Randy. Thanks!

Message: 16831 Posted: Fri May 04 18:04:42 2001 By: Randy
Subject: Lucky Booth

Like a rabid fan, I have my first real memorabelia (is that spelled right?) from an America concert. During Horse with No Name, Gerry threw a couple of guitar picks into the crowd. One of them landed in front of our booth and a passing waitress retrieved it and gave it to one of the ladies in the booth. I asked her if I could have it and she gave it me. What can you say about an act of kindness by a total stranger? White in color, the small plastic triangle has "G. BECKLEY" stamped on it. This and the ticket stub shall be framed and displayed in a prominent place for all to see who shall enter my humble abode. I don't really believe in nirvana in the strict sense of the word, but America concerts always seem to satisfy the loyal fan in many ways.
Now that I've waxed philosophical a bit, I'll describe what else happened. As I was walking back to the parking structure, I was approached by one of the other ladies froom the booth who excitedly exclaimed, "I've got the playlist". Sure enough, there it was - she taped it to the back of her LP copy of History. It had the omitted songs crossed off with a black marker. It was her first ever America concert. I guess that it all boils down to being in the right place at the right time.

Message: 16830 Posted: Fri May 04 18:00:21 2001 By: KevinS.
Subject: Milwaukee Show.

Last night's show at the Potawatomi Casino in Milwaukee was the kick-off of America's "Summer 2001 Tour." While I'm not sure what exactly was different from the "Spring 2001" Tour, I can tell you that there are very few venues I've ever been to where the acoustics were as excellent as they were at Potawatomi. (Thank God for gaming income.) And the band took full advantage of it.

The crowd rocked from the opening notes of "Riverside" (which is the same song America led off their recently-concluded Spring 2001 Tour with). I had excellent seats thanks to Gary, a recently arrived Milwaukee native who was nice enough to provide me with a couple of extra tickets he had.

I brought along a friend who'd never seen America live and, although he arrived late, he thoroughly enjoyed the show. His comments echo those I hear all the time from America virgins: 1) damn them guys rock, 2) damn them guys do some great songs I didn't know they did, 3) damn them guys is funny.

To the last point, I can say that last night Gerry and Dewey were in rare form. Their rapport with themselves and the audience was excellent. They got a lot of mileage out of the fact that Gerry's guitar was left behind in California and he had to play Dewey's. "It's a girls' guitar," was the comment Gerry made, although I didn't see any Care Bear stickers or unicorn decals or frilly lacey things that would identify it as such.

Another point my new America convert made was how fresh these songs sound, after some thousands and thousand of playings over the years, as well as how tight the band was and how much they seemed to enjoy what they were do. All of which I could only repond to: "Why do you think they were voted Best Band Ever?*"

"Windwave," "Hangover," "Only In Your Heart" and "Sandman" were personal favorites of the night. But that's not to say the rest of the songs weren't awesome as well. All in all, it was another great show. I don't know how America does it night after night after night: Dewey's voice sounded strong as ever, Gerry's enthusiam, Woods's showmanship, Palmer's coolness and Leacox's steadiness. Great show.

Oh, and here was a preview that was in the local weekly humor/arts paper The Onion (which, if anyone is unfamiliar, is the absolute funniest newspaper in the world and can be accessed at for those of you on this site who have internet access): Picks, May 3: America, Potawatomi Casino: "The lite-pop band America will forever be maligned for its 1971 hit 'Horse With No Name,' a Neil Young knockoff that actually knocked Young off the top of the charts when it was released. A series of mundane roots-pop albums followed--along with a few more hits--but America hasn't seen the charts for more than a decade. That doesn't mean there's no interest: In fact, Rhino recently released a retrospective box set called Highway: 30 Years Of America."


Oh, by the way, the Potwatomi's got me back for that "Trail Of Tears" thing to the tune of $65 at the blackjack tables.


Message: 16829 Posted: Fri May 04 17:47:41 2001 By: ingrid
Subject: various responses

Jeff: Nice to hear from a Bee Gees fan. My best friend and I take a bit of ribbing from younger folks about liking the Bee Gees. They understand Aerosmith and Van Halen, but "Jive Talkin'?" I saw the Bee Gees on "Live By Request" the other night. They look quite different but have the same unmistakable sound.

LisaRose: You da woman! Half marathon -- very impressive. I like my my little 5K walks . . .

Virginia: I'll agree that what I said was flirtatious, but I don't think that it was inappropriate. There are many successful relationships where there is 15 or more years difference in age. Just because someone is older than another person doesn't mean that their motives are sinister. It would have been a different matter if, instead of saying, "I'm lots of fun," I had said, "I'm lots of fun in bed." I do understand a mother's protectiveness of her children, did not intend to offend, and appreciate that you made your comments publicly.

To those of you that I haven't offended THIS week, I'll try to get right to work on that first thing NEXT week!

And in case anybody has lost track of why we're all here --

Message: 16828 Posted: Fri May 04 17:43:23 2001 By: Randy
Subject: Review of Milwaukee Show

Another polished performance by the guys last night at the Northern Lights Theatre. It holds approxomately 500, so there are no bad seats in the house. I was in a booth, dead center, about 50 feet back at most from the front of the stage. I'll make another post about my "lucky booth". The sound system was very good in this intimate environment. Perhaps that was it, or maybe it was because the guys were exceptionally jovial with their remarks between songs. Dewey sounded very good. I know that in the past, there have been discussions here in the chat folder about aging annd how voices may change.
The set was 21 songs - the same as the Fort Collins playlist. However, the following songs were omitted:
1. And Forever
2. Mirror to Mirror
3. Wednesday Morning
4. Pages
5. All My Life
6. California Revisited
For the sake of brevity, I'll make additional posts, so that it may be easier for the fans to reply.

Message: 16827 Posted: Fri May 04 16:51:51 2001 By: jeff brink
Subject: music...

...bought the new Bee Gees cd last weekend and like it alot. The song WALKING ON AIR by Maurice Gibb was an imediate favorite.

Also, looking forward to Mr. Beckleys solo album. Hope there's alittle banjo and mandolin thrown in somewhere.


Message: 16826 Posted: Fri May 04 15:53:15 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Lighten up Virginia!

"Ahhh nothing like a good ol' cat fight to liven things up a bit. GET A LIFE, DanC. "

Am I paranoid, or was that a gratuitous swipe at the chinese dinner I had last evening? LOL

Andy <-------------Makes no excuse for NOT having a wife..err...Life

Message: 16825 Posted: Fri May 04 15:49:26 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Mohegun Sun Re-visited!

Thanks Andy, Had a great laugh at that visual too. I know I must compromise though and it's okay if we listen to Sarah too!!

Message: 16824 Posted: Fri May 04 15:47:02 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Mohegun Sun Re-visited-Andy

"OOH Andy the visual on that WAS NOT PRETTY! lol "

Maybe it's the New York heat, or maybe it's the thought of all that excercise. That's why one of my all time favourite quotes is:
"Whenever I get the urge to excercise, I lay down until it passes" :O)


Message: 16823 Posted: Fri May 04 15:46:44 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Lighten up Virginia!Think you need a life Dan

LOL--like you have one IF you are responding to this nonsense (even I admit it is nonsense!!)

Message: 16822 Posted: Fri May 04 15:31:55 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Mohegun Sun Re-visited-Andy

OOH Andy the visual on that WAS NOT PRETTY! lol

Message: 16821 Posted: Fri May 04 15:31:55 2001 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Lighten up Virginia!

Ahhh nothing like a good ol' cat fight to liven things up a bit. GET A LIFE, DanC.

Message: 16820 Posted: Fri May 04 15:05:29 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Mohegun Sun Re-visited!

"I cannot attend either--and am quite sad since I usually do attend that show at the Mohegan-but I am running a half marathon the next day in Long Island and I don't think it would be a good idea..."

Okay Lisa, you definitely have my moral support. In fact, since I'm such a nice guy, here's my suggestion: While you're running, you can pull me along in a wagon. I'll have the boombox aimed at you, and I'll switch the CDs when they end. I figure that with the extra weight you'd be pulling, we'll make it through the Hideaway CD by the 4th mile:) LOL


Message: 16819 Posted: Fri May 04 14:48:24 2001 By: Mike B
Subject: Re: Lighten up Virginia!

If an America Fan “feels yucky” based on a comment I make here (even just in fun), I’d welcome information that lets me know how it made them feel. I have no right to judge how Virginia feels.

I know that one person’s fun can be another’s sting. I welcome Virginia and Ingrid to continue posting their America fun and feelings. But now, we are no longer ignorant of how some fans feel.

Horizontal Fall – How long must I wait to hear it?
1990 Encore
1994 Hourglass
1998 Human Nature
2002 Heritage

Message: 16818 Posted: Fri May 04 14:45:25 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: More Phobicman

Here are a couple more Phobicman photos courtesy of Robyn (thanks!):


Message: 16817 Posted: Fri May 04 14:27:52 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Mohegun Sun Re-visited!

I cannot attend either--and am quite sad since I usually do attend that show at the Mohegan-but I am running a half marathon the next day in Long Island and I don't think it would be a good idea. I do plan on listening to my America tapes as I run-at least for 7 of the miles.

Message: 16816 Posted: Fri May 04 14:25:09 2001 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Mohegun Sun Re-visited!

Hi all! Not hearing much chatter about who will be attending Saturday's show in CT.? I should be arriving by 5:00 P.M., a little earlier if traffic is light on my two and a half hour drive from northern Massachusetts."

Unfortunately, I can't make the drive from New York this time :(
I will be seeing America about 5 or 6 times in June, so all is not lost. Whoever is going to Connecticut tomorrow, enjoy!!


Message: 16815 Posted: Fri May 04 13:25:58 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: Lighten up Virginia!

Virginia--I don't understand what upsets you so much. If the genders were exchanged, would you have been so sensitive. My Uncle is 13 years older than my aunt and after 47 years of marriage and four children---they are still happy. They met when she was 23 and he was 36--is that wrong??? What is your problem? Anyway, it is SO obvious that Ingrid was just kidding and it wasn't --there is nothing sick about it as what you are making out of it. I wonder what IT is that is going through your imagination. It is quite obvious that there is something else that is getting you all wired up... maybe you should talk about it with a professional.

Message: 16814 Posted: Fri May 04 12:39:35 2001 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: I got a scolding! ("Dude Looks Like A Lady")

Wow!!! I must come out of lurkdom!

Like Aerosmith's song and the person that sent Ingrid her scolding message(s) last night, the "Dude Looks Like A Lady". Why? Because it's not from Penny, of course, but it's from a GUY trying to pass himself off as her. It's from the same person that flamed me and Beech last August. How do I know this? Because I asked Ingrid to forward me the messages he sent her. The writing style is identical! "So please believe in me when I say..." that I know it's him again.

I promised a special someone (yes a REAL LADY...a sweetheart XO) that I wouldn't mention him ever again on this folder but I just can't let this pass without pointing all of this out. So I apologize to her for breaking my promise. :0(

G ee L ooky H ere! <------"Old Man Took" it one step too far.

Message: 16813 Posted: Fri May 04 12:24:29 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: NEW TOPIC

ok, where are the reviews of recent shows??? You guys are slacking out there!

Message: 16812 Posted: Fri May 04 12:23:21 2001 By: Virginia
Subject: Re: Lighten up Virginia!

I don't find that funny either. Pretty obvious YOU don't have a son in his twenties. I find this thread out of line here, even if you are only kidding. It's annoying.

Message: 16811 Posted: Fri May 04 12:16:51 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Lighten up Virginia!

Lighten up Virginia---obviously Ingrid was just kidding. And anyway, age is just a number--really--so you shouldn't take offense that someone in their 30's makes a cute comment on someone in ther 20's. Perhaps you should send a pic of YOUR son to Ingrid-LOL!!!!

Message: 16810 Posted: Fri May 04 12:02:15 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Matt Beckley

Ingrid, I know you were just kidding, but it made me a bit uncomfortable as well. As far as the moral majority....

Message: 16809 Posted: Fri May 04 11:59:22 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Matt Beckley

Oh, Ingrid you so PHUNNY......lololol


Message: 16808 Posted: Fri May 04 11:19:13 2001 By: red oak
Subject: Scolding,etc

Ingrid - I find ur latest posts to be quite amusing. Don't worry, your pix from Ft Collins are safe with me.(wink,wink) Has the Moral Majority broken in to this website or what!!!!

You can't always get what you want.... Rolling Stones

Message: 16807 Posted: Fri May 04 11:08:56 2001 By: Virginia
Subject: Re: Matt Beckley

Perhaps you are just kidding around here, but as the mother of a son who is a little younger than Matt, I find your last remark to be very offensive.

Message: 16806 Posted: Fri May 04 10:42:30 2001 By: ingrid
Subject: Matt Beckley

Well, since Dewey's "girlfriend" told me "Back off chick," I've had to reevaluate my life. So I want to redirect my earlier Phobicman question. Matt, am I too old for you? I'm 38 but could pass for 33 -- or even 28 when I'm not wearing make-up, and I am LOTS of fun!!!

Hee, hee.

Message: 16805 Posted: Fri May 04 10:33:59 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: I got a scolding!

Good thing I didn't say my heart was reserved for Dewey. Phew! Imagine the fireworks.

Message: 16804 Posted: Fri May 04 09:07:15 2001 By: ingrid
Subject: Re: I got a scolding!

Thanks ladies. But I guess I will have to keep paying red oak that blackmail money to keep those dressing room photos from Fort Collins off of the net!

"Can I get you a taxi home? It sure was grand. When I come back here next year, I'd like to see you again. What was your name little girl, what's your name?" Lynyrd Skynyrd

Message: 16803 Posted: Fri May 04 05:13:14 2001 By: Nina
Subject: Mohegun Sun Re-visited!

Hi all! Not hearing much chatter about who will be attending Saturday's show in CT.? I should be arriving by 5:00 P.M., a little earlier if traffic is light on my two and a half hour drive from northern Massachusetts. (I'll be the chubby girl with the quilt under her arm...IF I finish it in time! ) Don't be afraid to say "Hi"!

Message: 16802 Posted: Fri May 04 04:31:48 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: I got a scolding!

Words to live by from LisaRose, Ingrid!!!!! GOOD GRIEF. You keep on posting what ever you want, Ingrid. There'll ALWAYS be people out there who'll take exception to SOMETHING, but as long as your heart's sincere and you enjoy what you're doing......poop on 'em!!! (C= There's always the little "next" button on the top of the menu bar!!!

Wow, maybe we should start a Donny Osmond type string now......
Ooooooooooooo...........I wonder what GERRY'S favorite color is? Does he have a puppy? Um, what's his favorite NAME???? (lol)

Ok, ok. I'm

TkH<--------+=! "This is NOT A Puppy Laaaaaaaaoooove...." (snicker)

Message: 16801 Posted: Fri May 04 03:14:38 2001 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: I got a scolding!

Ingrid, I never laughed so much so early in the morining!! It reminds me of something one of my 8th grade girl students would do--sending an email to you like that. I honestly do not believe it was Dewey's girlfriend--I couldn't even imagine that she could take what you wrote that seriously. It was probably some malcontent who just wanted to annoy you. The fact that it was anonymous--just proves my point. You must know by now that some people have nothing better to do but attack a benign statement. Unless of course----it was Dewey who sent it as his girlfriend was holding a ...---I better not go there--was just kidding. Anyway, you did nothing wrong----if by some slight possibility, it was her--I can't even say on here what I would really think about that--but really really doubt it was her. I on the other hand respect the fact that your heart belongs to Dewey!!! I think you should get a t-shirt that says that and wear it at the next show--LOL--got to stop---it's only 6 a.m--the heat here in NYC has gotten to me.

Message: 16800 Posted: Fri May 04 00:57:03 2001 By: ingrid
Subject: I got a scolding!

Hi Gang:

Received an e-mail yesterday from someone saying that she was Dewey's girlfriend but no name was given. She was disturbed by my Phobicman post: "Matt's a cutie, is he too young for me -- settle down, I'm just trying to get a reaction -- my heart belongs to Dewey." This person felt that I had been disrespectful/disruptive of her/their "normal and private life" with that comment. How could that be?! I've met Dewey one time, don't know him personally, and my posts are public, under my name, and in good humor. I'm a FAN for goodness' sake, not a stalker -- although sometimes I play a stalker on TV! So I did get a reaction, I just expected it to also be in good humor. Of course, I don't know if she is who she says she is, but nevertheless I'd appreciate feedback from other chatters, either on or off of the folder. Did I commit a transgression? I've not seen her screen name before, but she claims to have met some of you.

Thanks in advance and thanks also for always playing well with others!


Message: 16799 Posted: Fri May 04 00:55:40 2001 By: Bert
Subject: Highway

Ageing America fan in the UK has recently bought Highway (at normal UK inflated cost). Unfortunately my dog has eaten disc 3! This just happens to have the stuff which is mostly unavailable in the UK either on vinyl or CD. Does anyone have any ideas? Otherwise I shall just have to order another complete set. In which, case has anyone's dog eaten disc 1 and/or 2, I may be able to help!

Message: 16798 Posted: Thu May 03 23:05:22 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: H Names - Kiri

Thanks guys - what a lot of 'H' talent we have out there. See - we can look forward to a bunch more America albums. Kiri - I really liked your "HOURS" suggestion - very neat with its "ours" link, and it also harks back to "HOURGLASS" in a way. Beech, Ingrid and Robyn - you've got too many good ones to mention here! I've enjoyed all the others too. Steve - "Horizontal Fall" - very interesting - tell Gerry he might want to reconsider now that the fans have come up with something better - LOL!!

OK - I am in Melbourne and Sydney for a few days, so I don't know when I can post again. I'll check in again from Perth next week.
Thanks for the entries in the 'H' thing - and somebody please find Ingrid a new contest!!!

Message: 16797 Posted: Thu May 03 15:46:57 2001 By: Randy
Subject: Re: lip synch idiot

Maybe worse than lip-syncing is trying to sing along in my raspy voice.

Message: 16796 Posted: Thu May 03 15:27:55 2001 By: msmith
Subject: lip synch idiot

randy, unfortunately i will not be in milwaukee this evening, but no, that would be me--the idiot lip synching every song :-). enjoy the concert!

Message: 16795 Posted: Thu May 03 15:26:25 2001 By: ingrid
Subject: Re: Walter Phobicman

Nice pictures Shari L. What a cutie pie! Is he too young for me?
OH SETTLE DOWN -- I'm just tryin' to get a reaction out of you guys! You know my heart belongs to Dewey :)

Message: 16794 Posted: Thu May 03 14:37:59 2001 By: dreamoutloud
Subject: Re: Walter Phobicman

Robyn, I take it back, boy does he look like Gerry!

Message: 16793 Posted: Thu May 03 14:07:02 2001 By: Randy
Subject: Milwaukee

I'll be at the concert tonight - Section d,Box 8, Seat 4. Look for the idiot lip-synching every song.

Message: 16792 Posted: Wed May 02 11:31:00 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: OOPS! I Meant Thank You ShariL for the WP pics


Message: 16791 Posted: Wed May 02 10:22:40 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Walter Phobicman

Actually, those are ShariL's pictures! Thanks for sharing them. I will be sending mine along soon!

Message: 16790 Posted: Wed May 02 10:19:56 2001 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Walter Phobicman

A big thanks to Robyn, Steve and especially Matt
for sharing the pictures. They're great.
One thing? I wish I was there enjoying it.
Best of luck to your group Matt :0)

Message: 16789 Posted: Wed May 02 09:33:38 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Phobicman Photos

Here are links to the Phobicman photos that Shari sent to me. They are rather large (I didn't have time to reduce them) so they'll take a while to download. Thanks Shari for sharing them and congratulations to Matt for a great show under less than favorable conditions.

Crooning the Pass the Butter song
Is the guitar working Matt
Jammin with Jake the drummer
Lookin like his daddy a little more every day
Matt performing solo
Phobicman rocks San Diego
Phobicman setting up
Phobicman starting up
Start of Phobicman set
The sunglasses have gotta go
Things are going better now
Young Mr Beckley soloing

Message: 16788 Posted: Wed May 02 09:05:17 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Pictures and the chat

I just got my photos back from Sunday's Phobicman show. Very nice shots. If I can get my scanner to work ( and with Matt's kind permission!) I will send them to Steve.

See everyone in the chat room this evening ( hey you lurkers, you can join in too!)

Message: 16787 Posted: Wed May 02 06:55:53 2001 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: More H names


I guess for their final album, they can call it Hasta Lavista.


Message: 16786 Posted: Wed May 02 04:54:47 2001 By: Nina
Subject: Mohegun Sun

Hi Bones...been meaning to e-mail you, AND Lisa from RI (Hi, Lisa), but I always seem to forget to bring my addresses to school! I'm planning on attending America's show(s) on Saturday...just not sure yet what time I'll arrive. Looking forward to hearing the band "live" again; also hoping to meet fellow Chat Folder fans...both old and new!

Message: 16785 Posted: Wed May 02 04:28:33 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: More H's --Someone PLEASE stop me . . . .

Almosts don't count, damn it. I WANT "MY" HERITAGE.....lololol

TkH<--------=+! "she don't need to understand"

Message: 16784 Posted: Tue May 01 23:04:51 2001 By: ingrid
Subject: More H's --Someone PLEASE stop me . . . .

Hockey puck
Harvest -- a favorite of mine -- bein' a farm girl & all . . .
Helpmate -- I have a hunch that Johnny will like this one.
Halter top


"I'll take you backstage, you can drink from my [handblown?] glass"
Sweet Emotion, Aerosmith

Message: 16783 Posted: Tue May 01 20:21:37 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: steve?

Kiri, my e-mail address is

Message: 16782 Posted: Tue May 01 19:16:17 2001 By: red oak
Subject: Ingrid, H's & the Fenton Glass Handblown Variety

Ingrid, that was a great one about the crimson tree in Colorado. I'm slow so it took awhile to register. How about HEARTTHROB or HEARTBREAKER or HODGEPODGE if they haven't been listed. Got my pictures taken with Dewey & Gerry in Ft Collins in March back today.
They took a marvelous picture even with me in it. They did mention that they were expecting Ingrid to be backstage, but they didn't see her. I told them to expect to be bombarded in Reno in August. Take care and keep those 1-liners coming. I'll try and get it a little sooner next time. Peace.

Message: 16781 Posted: Tue May 01 19:00:20 2001 By: ingrid
Subject: Re: H names; Kiri

Handblown (as in glass -- I know what you were thinking)

Yay Kiri -- I look forward to seeing your magazine cover!

Where's the crimson tree from Colorado to liven things up?

Message: 16780 Posted: Tue May 01 18:48:55 2001 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Odds and Olds

Try to imagine that if the guys are still cranking out tunes twenty years from now, I don't think the fans will be worried about the "H" for an album title but are the ticket sellers offering "senior citizen discounts".
Who's headed to Mohegan Sun Saturday night?

Message: 16779 Posted: Tue May 01 17:10:44 2001 By: kiri
Subject: steve?

hey steve, i was going to email my magazine cover but i'm on my school's computer and i can't link to your email address like i can at home and i don't know it off the top of my head. help!

Message: 16778 Posted: Tue May 01 17:08:32 2001 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re: H names

has "Hanky Panky" been suggested yet? (for an "H" title that is)

Message: 16777 Posted: Tue May 01 15:11:38 2001 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: H names

I like Hmmmmmm, Robyn.
Or Happiness.
Both work for how I feel when I listen to (or better yet, see) America.
ShariL <><

Message: 16776 Posted: Tue May 01 13:37:13 2001 By: ingrid
Subject: H names, Beech

We're in sync girl!

"May sound crazy but it ain't no lie -- baby -- bye, bye, bye

Message: 16775 Posted: Tue May 01 13:31:27 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: More H names

Actually "Heyday" is a pretty cool song written by John Taylor....funny lyrics.....

TkH<-----+=! Her name is Rio...(snicker)

Message: 16774 Posted: Tue May 01 13:29:52 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: "H" musings

Holy Cow (a tribute to Harry Carey)
Herbert (in contrast to Gerry's "women")
Hillsborough (in deference to "Barstow")
Handbasket (as in going to "Hell in a")
Holistic (covers of the stylings of Courtney Love?)


Message: 16773 Posted: Tue May 01 13:28:56 2001 By: ingrid
Subject: More H names

Hooters(copyright problems)

" . . . and little hurly-burly came by in his curly-whirly, and asked me if I needed a ride"

Message: 16772 Posted: Tue May 01 13:25:51 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Say My Name!!!!!!!!!

Yeah I laughed hard on that one (and secretly shook my head in absolute WONDER)........after thinking the exact same thing you just said Ingrid!!!! Maybe they "tagged teamed" it....(C;


Message: 16771 Posted: Tue May 01 13:24:17 2001 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Odds and Olds

Here's more

Harper- Obscure Anne McCaffrey reference

More if I think of some later ( lol)

Message: 16770 Posted: Tue May 01 10:49:36 2001 By: ingrid
Subject: Re: Odds and Olds

Chris, you are the title master! LOL

I agree Spurs -- the recording industry is IN-sane. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if JJ's "Someone To Call My Lover" was nominated for or won a Grammy. "Ventura Highway" should have won but didn't. Did anyone see Destiny's Child win a songwriting Grammy for "Say My Name" this year? It took seven people to write the following lyrics: "Say my name, Say my name"?! I was encouraged by Steely Dan's award -- one for the Boomers.

Message: 16769 Posted: Tue May 01 09:33:30 2001 By: kiri
Subject: Re: Odds and Olds

how about "hours"?

referring to the hours they spend touring, recording, writing and the hours we spend listening to the word play with "ours"

Message: 16768 Posted: Tue May 01 09:21:06 2001 By: Beechlady
Subject: Re: Odds and Olds-John's list/Spurs

I'll bet things'll change a bit in the near future as the Record Execs realize the GRAYING OF AMERICA (no pun intended)......the VAST majority of us are now 40 year old baby boomers......their market (teens and Xers) will be MUCH smaller than US!

AW, who


Message: 16767 Posted: Tue May 01 09:04:25 2001 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Odds and Olds

How about:
Hair Replacement
Hypochondriatic Hydrangea

My alltime favorite is still "Huh?"

Message: 16766 Posted: Tue May 01 07:39:01 2001 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Odds and Olds

FYI - the working title for Gerry's next solo album is "Horizontal Fall" (another "H" album).

Message: 16765 Posted: Tue May 01 07:08:56 2001 By: holiday
Subject: Re: Odds and Olds

Yeah Spurs - agreed. They are getting better with age, which ain't easy.
Personally, I believe it's due to the return to the "H" titles (hee hee). However, how many "H's" have we got left?
How about some ideas for their next album name?
I say:
Any more silent letters?

Message: 16764 Posted: Tue May 01 05:46:59 2001 By: Spurs
Subject: Odds and Sods

Hello everyone,whilst I think we are all in agreement that "Hourglass" and "Human Nature" are right out of the top draw America albums, the former has more of an album feel to it,but the latter seems to have a more commercial sound.Just why is it that the older music fan seems to be ignored by the recording industry,supposedly the older fan is affluent but is unable to purchase on a fairly regular basis anything new by established artists when even more seem to be on the road than ever,talent just does not disappear,but it will if a stagnant recording industry has it's way.

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