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Message: 27631 Posted: Wed Apr 30 20:18:37 2003 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Trivia Answer and Hmmm & Wondering Here!

Nancy, I've never seen Ambrosia "live", unfortunately. As for upcoming shows, nothing in the works right now. Even though Journey (Steve Perryless), Styx (Dennis DeYoungless) and REO Speedwagon (Gary Richrathless) is coming to Peoria on a triple bill in June. I really have no desire to see this show for obvious reasons. And also cause I really only ever got into REO out of the three anyway, If anything does come up in the not to distant future I'll lat you know. I'm hoping to catch a glimpse of America sometime this summer. Are you guys reading????DanC.

Message: 27630 Posted: Wed Apr 30 20:03:00 2003 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Ambrosia's "Magical Mystery Tour"

Steve, thanks for the help. I was hoping my memory was still sharp as ever. I never had that album but remember being impressed with the song.DanC.

Message: 27629 Posted: Wed Apr 30 19:25:02 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Thanks, Sheldon

The pictures are all brimming with contagious happiness. Thanks for sharing it with all of us. What a great trio of fans you all made! Sincerely,

Message: 27628 Posted: Wed Apr 30 19:14:22 2003 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: Player

One other interesting tidbit about Player and their lead singer Peter Beckett. Back in the mid to late 90's,Beckett joined the Little River Band when they were still touring with the originals like Glenn Shorrock,Beeb birtles etc. The band was kind enough to allow Beckett the opportunity to sing "Baby come back" during the shows! It was certainly a blast to hear that performed Live,and a bonus for anybody who was attending a live performance by LRB.

Message: 27627 Posted: Wed Apr 30 19:05:20 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Re: Fourth Decade Tour and Winning the Lottery

So you are on hiatus until July, Moser. I am hoping to see them on June 1st at Hershey Park. My hub isn't too thrilled that the earliest show on that day is about 5:00 or 5:30 on a school night and we live about two and half maybe three hours away, but I told him I really want to go!!!~~Sounds like fun going on a cross country trip.~~Regarding the lottery, I always say I wish I would win too. I think it's a wish of a lot of the fans on this chat folder to win the lottery and then book America to play and invite everyone. We could have a big party. That would be cool!! Maybe we could ask them to do some songs that they don't normally perform live just for us diehards. Oh well, I can dream but I guess I should start by buying a ticket too. lol~~Sheldon, are you still planning to make the trek to Hershey Park?~~Also, Sheldon I meant to thank you for the pictures at IUP also. I can tell that you all had a great time.~~Cathy

Message: 27626 Posted: Wed Apr 30 18:44:00 2003 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: Player

One other interesting tidbit about Player and their lead singer Peter Beckett. Back in the mid to late 90's,Beckett joined the Little River Band when they were still touring with the originals like Glenn Shorrock,Beeb birtles etc. The band was kind enough to allow Beckett the opportunity to sing "Baby come back" during the shows! It was certainly a blast to hear that performed Live,and a bonus for anybody who was attending a live performance by LRB.

Message: 27625 Posted: Wed Apr 30 17:48:43 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Pics

Thanks for sharing your photos too, Sheldon. You all look great on them. Very cool !

Message: 27624 Posted: Wed Apr 30 17:32:35 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Hi & HSC (Red)

Hi everyone,

GREAT STUFF( photos, links, interviews, discussions) posted on the site pages and chat folder since I last visited. Thanks for the wonderful job you're all doing here.

Moser, the pics are are super. You, Nancy & Sheldon with the Guys are literally shining. Thanks for sharing.

Good one Red ! Had a good laugh even though I fondamentally disagree (of course) with 'your' conclusion. Actually, every sensible woman knows there are no such things on the market as "men with high paying jobs, who love kids,are extremely good looking, help with the housework, and who have a strong romantic streak." It is extremely naive to think women are impossible to please. Nancy & Mary have already brought some evidence, proving a certain number of us are not 'that chosey'.
As for the others, they simply know the 5 ' secret rules' to a great relationship... :-)
Here they are just for you ;-)

The Five Secrets to a Great Relationship:

1. Yes, it is important to find a man who works around the house
occasionally, cooks and cleans a little and who has a job.

2. It is also important to find a man who makes you laugh.

3. It is important to find a man who is reliable and doesn't lie.

4. It is important to find a man who's good in bed and who loves to have sex with.... you!

5. It is VERY important that these four men NEVER meet !!!

See you all. Gen.

Message: 27623 Posted: Wed Apr 30 16:44:02 2003 By: John Corbett
Subject: Player


Perhaps I can answer your question in Player. I have all four of their original albums from 1977 to 1981, and have heard a couple tracks off their 1995 comeback album, "Lost In Reality", and I have to say they are a consistently enjoyable band that constantly gets overlooked by fans and critics alike.

The group was formed in 1977 on Robert Stigwood's RSO label (that's when they had the biggest act in the world: the Bee Gees) in Los Angeles. They were fronted by singer Peter Beckett, Ronn Moss on bass, and J.C. Crowley on guitar and keyboards. John "The Hub" Freisen rounded out the group with his distinctive drum/percussion style. Crowley and Beckett were the main songwriting forces in the group.

Right out of the box, they recorded "Baby Come Back" in late 1977. As any '70s music fan knows, that song took radio by storm, shooting up to Number One in a heartbeat in the early weeks of 1978. (Which was ironic, considering that one of the tracks on their self-titled debut album was called "Tryin' To Write A Hit Song".)

After the success of "Baby Come Back", they released their first album, which was chock full of great tracks. (I love "Every Which Way" and the bouncy rocker "Love Is Where You Find It" especially.) For those who thought they were a one-hit wonder, "This Time I'm In It For Love" hit the Top Ten as well in the summer of 1978.

Before the end of the year, they had already followed up with "Danger Zone", which gave their sound a slightly darker and more progressive edge. They had the Top Forty hit "Prisoner Of Your Love", and a minor hit in "Silver Lining" (the latter track has a very recognizable and memorable keyboard riff), but nothing like the first album. Still I like this album the best. Fantastic tracks all the way through. Beckett's vocals on "Let Me Down Easy" were simply phenomenal -- I think he held his note even longer than Gerry did at the end of "Submarine Ladies"!

After the commercial disappointment of "Danger Zone", J.C. Crowley left the group, heading off for a career in country music (as did England Dan Seals around the same time). The remaining trio released an album on Casablanca Records in 1980 called "Room With A View". This album frequently gets overlooked, but its songs are virtually as strong as those on "Danger Zone", even with the main songwriting taken over by Beckett. The production was slicker than in the previous two, as was the trend in the early 1980s, with a slightly more mellow sound, but while retaining the trademark sultry feel of your typical Player record. "It's For You" was a minor hit off that album (it just missed the Top Forty), but even without the hits there were some very strong tracks. I recommend "Giving It All", "Room With A View", and "Tip Of The Iceberg" as my favorites, by I can't say there's a bad track on the album.

After that album, Player was dropped from their label yet again (Dewey and Gerry must certainly be able to sympathize!). In 1981, they signed to RCA records and recorded a fourth album, "Spies Of Life". By this point, Ronn Moss had also left the group, leaving Beckett and Freisen to round off the lineup with studio musicians. "Spies Of Life" isn't quite as strong as the first three, and it has a harder sound (imagine Player tinkering with the Survivor sound trendy then), but it is still very listenable. The hit track "If Looks Could Kill" (no, not the Heart song) once again just barely missed the Top Forty in early 1982. Other standout tracks included the cool "Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid" (no, not the Hall & Oates song) and the fun ode to film star Errol Flynn in "In Like Flynn".

That album went the way of the preceding three, and this time Player broke up. Moss went on to a successful film and television career, with a stint on the daytime soap opera "Days Of Our Lives" in 1984 and "The Bold and the Beautiful" in the late '80s.

Moss and Beckett got back together in the mid-'90s to record the comeback album "Lost In Reality". "Footprints In The Sand" is a smooth modern pop track with some very sophisticated vocal arrangements -- very much worth hearing.

All of their albums have since been re-released. Our heroes, One Way Records, released their first two albums as a two-fer last year, and "Room With A View" came out as an expensive import at Melody Blvd. "Spies Of Life" comes in the same HDCD format as America's Capitol albums on the Magic Records label in France. A few words of caution, though -- I'm not that satisfied with the way "Spies Of Life" was remastered on HDCD. The bass was turned up way too powerful, and the treble has the sort of shrill, hollow sound you expect from a worn record. In addition, One Way bumbled on its two-fer release. Unlike some of their other efforts, some corners were cut on this one. "I Just Wanna Be With You" -- a great track in its own right -- was noticably clipped by a fraction of a second at the beginning of the track. "I've Been Thinkin'" had an entire closing guitar cord snipped off the end (which you can hear in full on the greatest hits collection). "Let Me Down Easy" was also cut off at the end. Still, that's all there is to choose from right now, so I recommend those albums. At least start off with the greatest hits collection.

For more information, check out this informative Player webpage.

Message: 27622 Posted: Wed Apr 30 16:34:54 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Trivia Answer

In the mirror he is standing to Gerry's right, but in reality Dan is standing to his left.

Message: 27621 Posted: Wed Apr 30 14:53:05 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Anyone have a 73 tour schedule-any luck Robyn?

Jolly good show, Robyn. You are one helpful bookworm.

Message: 27620 Posted: Wed Apr 30 12:43:02 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Anyone have a 73 tour schedule-any luck Robyn?

According to Rolling Stone Febrauary 1973, they playe University Park on Febrauary 4, 1973. Was that the show or do I continue digging?

My job is to supervise the crews that move the materials ( books equipment furniture) but yes I do move and shelve books too.

Message: 27619 Posted: Wed Apr 30 10:00:57 2003 By: psu hooked
Subject: Re: Anyone have a 73 tour schedule-any luck Robyn?

whoa, what a job!?! Not sure I understand if they are making you carry books but I hope not!
Thanks for everything. Curiosity has me if nothing else. I can't believe no America fan on this site has any memorabilia that might back this!
thanks again, you are a doll

Message: 27618 Posted: Wed Apr 30 09:29:09 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Trivia Answer and Hmmm & Wondering Here!

Hi tere Everyone ~~~ An absolutely Beautiful Blue Eyes Sky day here! I don't think they make a clothesline long enough for today! LOL! :)

Thanks Johnny ~~~ Hmmmm I guess the answer was right in front of me the whole time (or behind me). Thanks, as always your trivia questions are interesting and fun. I always end up with a different perspective from them for sure! ~~ Too much, even the title Hat Trick is a clue to this Mirror, and you know what I never really thought about why they were carrying that mirror, maybe because I never really thought of it as a mirror... Good Job Vic, Sergio & Mo! :)

Hey there Red with all of this talk about Mirror images and the flip side, upon reading your Post I wondered what the Mirror Image of this scenerio would be, by chance is there a Wife Shopping Centre, I would be curious to see just what the floors had to offer. Thanks for your added fun! I too second Mary's thoughts, I don't think I am that chosey either. In fact I think it would be just Normal Curiousity that would make any woman want to go the whole way to the top floor! Right? ;) Hmmmm did you come across any good song lyrics to go along with this? :)

Hi there Tom H ~~ Nice to hear from You! Pretty Neat You traveling the whole way from Indiana to Calif. to see this unique but awesome concert show. Thanks for sharing your story with us. I would imagine you got to hear Ambrosia sing "I Keep Holding On To Yesterday" WOW it always has been a favorite of mine for sure.

Hey there DanC ~~ Leave it to You to know that Ambrosia did an awesome remake of the Beatles Magical Mystery Tour ~~ Your mind has a wealth of riches stored in it! Hmmm ~~ Just a wondering here, have you ever seen Ambrosia in a show? And are there any good shows coming your way soon? I was just thinking it was a year ago that we talked for the first time and you had mentioned all of the upcoming shows you would be going to. ~~ Hey the Mailman has only been bringing bills my way, it would be nice just to get a letter from a friend once in awhile! ;)

Hi Steve O ~~ Thanks for the info about Ambrosia and their covering the Beatles Magical Mystery Tour.... All this mentioning Ambrosia, brought the group Player to my mind, and how much they sounded and were mistaken for Ambrosia. Do you have any interesting info on them that you could share with us. I really liked their song Baby Come Back and I will admit I too thought it was done by Ambrosia for quite some time. I like "This Time I'm In It For Love" as well. I think it was with this song that I finally realised Player had done Baby Come Back.... Also my inquiring mind is curious if you have any info on Van Morrison, he sure has had a unique sound that has carried through the 70's and to now... I hear his song Brown Eyed Girl almost every day on the radio. I really like his version of "Someone Like You" it is sooo nice, and "Moondance" sure is soooooo neat! Thanks Steve for all of your interesting articles ~~~ Keep up the great work! :) I am glad you will get to see AMERICA coming your way this summer too. I will look forward to hearing your review. Hey maybe another interview with the Guys is coming your way as well. Nice :)

Oh Darn psuhooked ~~~ I was hoping you would post saying it all came back to you just like that... Hmmm how about another approach , was there anything else that happened close to this time that comes to your mind? Sometimes if I try and go back to a certain time and events in my mind it kinda helps me relive it.... I sure hope you find this info in time!

Hi Robyn ~~~ Boy you sure are a busy busy bookworm aren't you! :) Hang in there, I hope this all goes smoothly for you! Ooooooh boy, how tempting it is to hop on a plane and come out there to Sunny Calif. to see Matt's show on May 24th... I gotta win the Lottery too, one of these days.... Hmm I guess I gotta buy a ticket in order to win, and I never seem to buy that ticket. LOL!

Hey it is wednesday, time for Live Chat tonight... Hope to see you all there! Have a good day! Nancy :) ~~~ Boy there are 4 songs that I could post lyrics to right now.... hmmm which one should I go with... Ooh well this one is on here now sooo~~~

~~~ Take a good look around you, do you see what I do ~~ take a good look around, cause I'll be goneeee, I'll be gone, since you came here with your pretty eyes, I ain't been the same, you tried to fill my head with all those lies, while you're flirting with some other guy, when I'm here with you...Every thought was just for you, now face the facts baby, now there is only one thing for you to do, Take a Good Look Around You ~~ Do You see what I do Take a good look around you, cause I'll be gone, i'll be goneee... sometimes I think you are made of stone, cause you don't even say a word.... Sing it Timothy B Schmitt :)

Message: 27617 Posted: Wed Apr 30 08:17:59 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Anyone have a 73 tour schedule-any luck Robyn?

I have been moving libraries ( I am on my second one in two weeks, I start two more at once next week so I am a bit distracted) I will try today!

Message: 27616 Posted: Wed Apr 30 08:13:05 2003 By: Mary Henderson
Subject: Re: Husband Shopping Centre

Good one, Red, But I don't think that we are all that hard to please. Maybe some, but not all. I would hope that I am amongst those that are not hard to please.LOL!!! Take care. Have a great day. Mary

Message: 27615 Posted: Wed Apr 30 08:09:38 2003 By: psu hooked
Subject: Re: Anyone have a 73 tour schedule-any luck Robyn?

I'm still surfing, any luck with your library site?

Message: 27614 Posted: Wed Apr 30 07:36:58 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Trivia Answer

Never mind! Yes, Johnny and Moser,I completely missed the mirror. I know that point has been brought out on this board, just in the last year since I have been posting here, so, it is not a reverse of the original, as I originally said it was. But Sergio, I must ask you, is Dan 'actually' standing to Gerry's right or left?

Message: 27613 Posted: Wed Apr 30 07:21:37 2003 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Ambrosia's "Magical Mystery Tour"

Ambrosia's version of "Magical Mystery Tour" was a Top 40 record for the group,charting at #39 in 1977. Years ago I was fortunate enough to interview David Pack,and he said he was thrilled to be able to make the charts with a remake of a Beatles song,even though that specific track included the London Symphony Orchestra and the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra! The song is tough to find;it was never included on the "Anthology" Cd from 1997. It was originally available on the 1977 documentary soundtrack to "All This & World War II." which featured current artists from that time remaking Beatles songs. I have the original double LP,but its never been reissued to CD.

Message: 27612 Posted: Wed Apr 30 07:11:02 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Husband Shopping Center

Recently a "Husband Shopping Centre" opened in Dallas, where women could go to choose a husband from among many men. It was laid out in five floors, with the men increasing in positive attributes as you ascended. The only rule was, once you opened the door to any floor, you HAD to choose a man from that floor. If you went up a floor,you couldn't go back down except to leave the place, never to return.

A couple of girlfriends went to the shopping centre to find some

First floor:
The door had a sign saying, "These men have jobs and love kids." The
women read the sign and said, "Well, that's better than not having a job, or not loving kids, but I wonder what's further up?" So up they went.

Second floor:
The sign read, "These men have high paying jobs, love kids, and are
extremely good looking." Hmmm, said the ladies. But, I wonder what's
further up?

Third floor:
This sign read, "These men have high paying jobs, are extremely good
looking, love kids and help with the housework." "Wow!" Said the women. "Very tempting, BUT, there's more further up!" And up they went.

Fourth floor:
This door had a sign saying "These men have high paying jobs, love
kids,are extremely good looking, help with the housework, and have a strong romantic streak." Oh, mercy me. But just think! What must be awaiting us further on! So up to the fifth floor they went.

Fifth floor:
The sign on that door said, "This floor is empty and exists only to
prove that women are impossible to please."

I rest my case.........

Message: 27611 Posted: Wed Apr 30 06:28:03 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Trivia Answer

Serge ~ As you said, your method helped you get the correct answer! That's what counts!!! It works for me. :0)

Vic ~ As Mo said, everything you mentioned about the clothing DG&D are wearing is absolutely correct such as the buttons being on the wrong side and all. Good goin' getting the answer correct! Maybe later tonight, I'll mention a one or two more 'reversed items' in the image.

Mo ~ You are exactly correct. The photo is of Dan, Dewey and Gerry (or should I say, Gerry, Dewey and Dan) standing in front of a mirror. Henry Diltz photographed the mirror as it reflected the trio's image. Good work, Mb!

(The guys are carrying that mirror on the back cover of "Hat Trick")

Message: 27610 Posted: Wed Apr 30 04:26:54 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Trivia Question (Answer)

All I did was go to the album cover, I then substituted myself for Gerry and asked myself, who is to my right or left, and it worked!Nothing complicated and I got the right answer. Thanks Johnny, it was fun!

Message: 27609 Posted: Wed Apr 30 04:03:23 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Trivia Question (Answer)

Vic, although your explanation of men's garments and buttons is interesting and something I never realized, I think it may be a bit off the mark for this album cover. The picture is not reversed from the original. It is a picture of a mirror. That is why everything is reversed.

Message: 27608 Posted: Tue Apr 29 23:55:19 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Trivia Question (Answer)

Johnny, I'll deal with the cover of "Hat Trick" and give a couple of others the oppotunity to talk about the other 2 album covers.

At first glance, it does appear that Dan is standing to the Gerry's right on the cover of "Hat Trick", however, if you look closely at Gerry's jacket, vest and shirt, you will notice that the buttons, on all three garments, 'appear' to be on his LEFT side in the picture. That is not consistent with the way men's garments are made. Men's garments 'always' have the buttons on the RIGHT side and the holes on the LEFT side. Dewey's jacket is unbuttoned and his vest is buttoned. My eyes can not tell, for sure, which side the buttons are on, on his vest and I can't detect buttons, or holes, on the jacket. Can't conclude anything by what Dewey is wearing. Dan's jacket is double-breasted, a set of buttons and holes, on each side of the jacket, mirroring each other, so, you can't conclude anything based on the way Dan's jacket appears, however, if you look closely at the buttons on his shirt, you can tell by the way the material is pulled and drawn, by the buttons, that the buttons 'appear' to be on his left side in the picture. Once again, that is not consistent with the way men's garments are made. So, based on these observations, I have concluded that the picture on the cover of "Hat Trick" is reversed or backwards from the original. If the buttons on Gerry's jacket, vest and shirt are 'actually' on his right side, and they are, then Dan must 'actually' be standing to Gerry's left. Agreed?

Message: 27607 Posted: Tue Apr 29 21:12:50 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Ambrosia..Ladd..well on 2nd thought lol

With this recent talk about Ambrosia, I was thinking to myself that I've never purchased a single one of their releases although I have always enjoyed their songs that are played on the radio. An hour ago, I looked down only a foot away and saw that I have an 8-track tape of Ambrosia's "Life Beyond LA" that I bought at a thrift store a year ago because it was in really great shape and I thought it was a pretty cool collector's item. I have never played it, but I'll have to plug in the ol' 8-track player to give it a listen.

Dan ~ According to the All Music Guide, Ambrosia recorded "Magical Mystery Tour" just as you mentioned but the website shows the song was on a 2002 release titled, "Live At The Galaxy". I didn't see it listed as being a release on any of their previous LPs. Oddly, the All Music Guide has the song "Heart To Heart" from Ambrosia's "Life Beyond LA" release listed as "Heart To Heaven".

Message: 27606 Posted: Tue Apr 29 20:49:02 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Trivia Question (Answer)

Thanks to each of you (Vic, Sergio, Mo, Lass, and Nancy) who were 'game enough' to post an answer to this morning's trivia question!

Yes indeed the answer is FALSE! I'll leave it to one of you to post why. :0)

Message: 27605 Posted: Tue Apr 29 19:41:50 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Thanks, Mo

Mo, Thanks for sharing your concert pictures with us, they are wonderful! I really enjoyed seeing you, Nancy, Sheldon and friends/family. What a great event where fans got to meet each other (like family) as well as the stars, Dewey and Gerry. Great going, thanks again,

Message: 27604 Posted: Tue Apr 29 19:29:41 2003 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Ambrosia

Yes Tom, I remember you. A real great guy to fly all the way to California & I think you saw a really great show in a nice venue. Gee I don't know how many times I have seen them, can't count that high.
Best wishes in Indiana; AMERICA used to do the Holiday Star Theatre there. Want a real treat ? Listen to DEWEY BUNNELL sing AMBER CASCADES on the 1977 Warner's Live CD, really shows his versatility on the wonderful weaving counter melody finish on that song.

Message: 27603 Posted: Tue Apr 29 19:05:29 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Fourth Decade Tour

Cathy, I am on hiatus from the Fourth Decade Tour until July at Mohegan. I need my rest, being this old and all!! I was hoping to do the Grand Bahama show on May 10th but the hub objected. We already have our vacation for this year scheduled and budgeted to do a cross country road trip with our kids in July. So, going to the Bahamas was not possible. Hub says the only way I'm going is if I win the lottery between now and then. Maybe I should start by buying a ticket!!
Everybody in the band and crew got a shirt but they only had one name on them with the exception of Gerry Gerry Gerry and Dewey Dewey Dew. I had the shirts made prior to upgrading Dewey to the full three name chant. That's okay, he got a kick out of the 2.5 name chant anyway.

Message: 27602 Posted: Tue Apr 29 18:26:00 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Irvine and IUP Pictures

Jimnak and Moser, thanks for the great pictures. Jimnak, it's nice to see a picture of the new bass player, Richard. And Moser, I can tell that all of you had a great time meeting the guys. Nancy and Sheldon, it's great that you were able to get together with Mo at this show. What wonderful memories!! Moser, the shirts that you made are neat and I see you gave one to Gerry, Gerry, Gerry, too. So, when is the next stop on the Fourth Decade Tour?~~~Cathy

Message: 27601 Posted: Tue Apr 29 17:53:13 2003 By: Tom Hullinger
Subject: Ambrosia

I seldom post here, but I had to reply to the Ambrosia discussion. I was able to experience America & Ambrosia together at Cerritos, Ca. They played for two nights(Friday & Saturday)March 1998. My wife and friends thought I was crazy to fly from Indiana to California, but I figured it was a once in a lifetime opportunity. I figured right. David Pack has left Ambrosia & it appears to be a permanent split. Very similar to Dan Peeks departure. The shows were incredible, seeing my two favorite bands and being able to go backstage to meet the members of Ambrosia. They are just as accomodating(sic?) as Gerry & Dewey and very down to earth. If you love America's music, then I am confident you will like Ambrosia as well. They are more progressive than America, but have a very melodic sound. My favorite is their first two albums. When they went to Warner Bros. for albums 3,4 &5, they became more pop oriented. Also, I need to mention that I met Jim Nakao in Cerritos & he showed that he is America's biggest fan. He was great to talk to & probably knows more about the guys than anyone.Jim, how many times have you seen America perform?
All Ambrosia albums are now available on CD, although Road Island(#5) is an import. If anyone wants further info on Ambrosia, email me.

Message: 27600 Posted: Tue Apr 29 17:21:43 2003 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Ambrosia..Ladd..well on 2nd thought lol

I could be all wet but my memory thought that Ambrosia covered a Beatle tune on one of those first two albums. I also thought it was damn good, maybe Magical Mystery Tour??? help me with this please...DanC. :)

Message: 27599 Posted: Tue Apr 29 16:54:31 2003 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Trivia Question

What if I'm looking at the album cover in the mirror?

Message: 27598 Posted: Tue Apr 29 16:41:38 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: more on mB

For a VERY BRIEF snipet of mB and Kaumyar performing "Sarah" go to his webpage and go to "media". HOW ABOUT MORE OF THAT, MATT??????

BTW, NO EXCUSES NOW, mB is playing in MAy 24 A SATURDAY. If you can possibly make it, you need to be there.

Message: 27597 Posted: Tue Apr 29 16:38:08 2003 By: Lass
Subject: Re: Trivia Question

FALSE - glad you specified front covers only Johnny

Message: 27596 Posted: Tue Apr 29 16:08:12 2003 By: Shayne

I decided to join the fray and submitted a song to It's a parody of the Cranberries song "Ode To My Family". Take a look and rate it (it gives you the opportunity at the bottom)!

"Sometimes it's hard to make your mark When you're only a kid at heart"

Message: 27595 Posted: Tue Apr 29 14:54:10 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Irvine Pic Questions

Yes that is the lovely Mrs. B in the photo.

Message: 27594 Posted: Tue Apr 29 14:05:10 2003 By: jeff brink
Subject: Re: Ambrosia..Ladd..well on 2nd thought lol

RC, Heart to Heart is a nice song.

Message: 27593 Posted: Tue Apr 29 13:44:26 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: wondering about America songs charting

In case you haven't already checked out the "Charting Singles" web page on the America Fans web site, you can click here to view it. It may answer a few (although not all) of your questions.

Message: 27592 Posted: Tue Apr 29 13:29:44 2003 By: Robsl
Subject: wondering about America songs charting

Hi everyone,
I am always fascinated with chart info. I was just thinking about America's chart performances and just wondering if any America songs have charted on charts other than the Hot 100 and AC charts. For instance, have any America songs charted on the R&B charts? Or the country charts? I know sometimes it is surprising what songs show up on the R&B charts, like for instance Cyndi Lauper and a number of early Beach Boys singles. I could see that "Don't Cross the River" or something might have received a little country airplay. Just wondering, hopefully someone can help me out with info. has a search service online but it costs money.

Message: 27591 Posted: Tue Apr 29 11:30:56 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Trivia Question


Message: 27590 Posted: Tue Apr 29 11:19:41 2003 By: rc
Subject: Re: America & Ambrosia

Ok now I'm jealous lol...Tom got see them with David Pack :-( He wasn't with the group when they played here the last 2 times.. bummer... lol
Thanks for posting all the pic's Steve..

Message: 27589 Posted: Tue Apr 29 11:11:58 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: America & Ambrosia

Here are some links to photos from the 1998 concert when America played with Ambrosia in Cerritos, California:

Jim Nakao's photos
Tom Hullinger's photos (he flew from Indiana to California to see his two favorite groups

Message: 27588 Posted: Tue Apr 29 10:53:11 2003 By: rc
Subject: Re: Ambrosia..Ladd..well on 2nd thought lol

I am listening to Life Beyond L.A. I had said it was in the same style as the first 2....welllllll...not exactly lol... it starts out sounding the same but then becomes a mix of sorts? Sorry, I am not describing this well..
My favorite off this one is a ballad titled Heart To Heart, but I like and listen to the entire album everytime I play it.. To me Ambrosia is one of those groups you turn the lights off, put on the headphones and just sit back and listen to.. :-) (oops it's daytime...don't tell anyone lol)
OK..I'll be quiet now.......

Message: 27587 Posted: Tue Apr 29 10:27:48 2003 By: rc
Subject: Re: Ambrosia..Ladd

You should be able to find the cd's... In either 99 or 2000 they released the first two album on cd... Ambrosia and Somewhere I've Never Traveled.. Both of these were produced by Alan Parsons, so think along that style if you are familiar with him... In fact the one album(vinyl)opened up to form a pyramid lol.
Life Beyond L.A. and One Eighty first showed up as import cd's and not sure if that has changed.
Life Beyond L.A. (#3)is still in the same genre as the first two. One Eighty is just that lol they took a 180 turn with the music on that album.. But I like it although many ambrosia fans don't *shrugs*
The one I don't listen to is Rhode Island. (#5) It's a bit out there for me..kind of dark. But I'll be honest, I never really gave it a fair chance.
A lot of people know Ambrosia from the ballads they have heard on the radio..Ie: How Much I Feel, You're the only woman etc. So they are surprised when they hear stuff off the first 3 lol..

btw.. Holding on to Yesterday and Nice, Nice Very Nice are on the first album..
Take Care,
Robin C.

Message: 27586 Posted: Tue Apr 29 10:01:19 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Trivia Question


Message: 27585 Posted: Tue Apr 29 09:27:47 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Interview, Pics, Willie IOWA H of F & Trivia

Hi Everybody ~~~ Darn!!! I had an almost complete post ready to submit just now and it took off somehow into cyberspace ~~~ Oooooh how I hate when that happens for sure! ~~~ Hmmm now to remember all that I had said in it~~~ It has been soo long since I posted that I was at my bursting point again. LOL ~~~ My mind was running 10 different directions and my fast typing fingers couldn't keep up with it at all. ~~~ Kinda a cool dreary day here, but Spring has definitely Sprung for sure! Bout time!!!! :)

First of all thanks Steve for posting Mo's IUP pics (thanks to you too Mo) and Jimnak's pics from the Great Escape show this past weekend. Hey there Jimnak ~~ this had to be a neat show to see, with it being the first show with Richard playing with them. Hmmm ~~~ My inquiring mind is seconding all of Mo's Questions ~~ Did Matt join them on stage for the HWNN dip, was that Mrs. Beckley standing behind them, and did you meet Windwave??? He was gonna be there too... Did you guys get to hear the long playlist, and by some slim chance did you get to hear Hat Trick? (WW will understand us asking that question) ~~~ Thanks Mo for the Pics from the IUP show ~~ WOW what a night Huh!!!! I love going back to it often in my thoughts! ~~~ Yes Yes Yes I can hear all of your inquiring thoughts wondering why no pics from Me as of yet. I gotta get up to my sisters yet, she has been busy and I have been too, soo hopefully I will get them sent from her comp. soon. I think I did mention before that all the ones I thought my hubby was taking during the show with my sister's digital binoculars, they are all dark shadows... he tried taking them when the stage was more lite up, but they still didn't take well.... Darn, we woulda had some good ones... it was fun tho getting to watch them sing close up in these tho... soo that memory lives in my mind. Nice :) It is soo hard to believe that a month has almost gone by since that magical night.... Thanks Gerry & Dewey!! :) Sooo nice meeting you Mo & sis & friends, and Sheldon & Debi! :)

Thanks again John for this AWESOME Gerry Interview ~~ I have reread it a couple of times and I enjoyed it immensely! You sure did share the Gift of Gab with Gerry ooooh soo nice! You managed to capture his interest right from the getgo and the outcome to this was very refreshing. It is soo neat how we got to see a different side of Gerry through this interview. I am sure this will be a treasured memory keepsake for You. ~~ I love how you touched on the Hidden Gems. Your approach regarding Dan, was thoughtfully done too. I liked how Gerry's response to your saying how much you liked the Silent Letter album, especially the song 1960, and how you related soo well to it at the time. I liked how Gerry responded to this saying that it is neat how certain songs that mean alot to them when they are writing them and singing them, manage to touch we the fans in a special way also. Magic how the 2 connect don't you think! I got a kick out of him mentioning the, what was it 9 fans on the chat folder and we know them by name and that from time to time it is brought up about a reunion..... That was neat hearing Gerry's thoughts on that! ~~~ Yes Steve O, I too like how Gerry touched on his thoughts of other music artists. I thought it was neat him mentioning John Mayer and his nice accoustical talent, I do enjoy John's way with his music and lyrics alot. I agree with Gerry too about Nora Jones and how her songs have managed to recapture that older music era sound. In particularly tho... I liked hearing him mentioning Sting, that was too neat for sure. All In All, this was such a Unique chance for us to get to know Gerry a little bit better, and it left me a SMILING for sure! Thanks again Gerry & John, and ooooh yes John as others have mentioned I hope you one day will get the opportunity to interview Dewey and maybe even Dan... I know that I have voiced my thoughts on this to Steve O, on how I think it is sooo neat how you guys work can allow you to express your appreciation for AMERICA and their music... what a nice way to give back to them some of what they have given to you.... Nice :)

WOW ~~ Congratulations to Willie for being inducted into the IOWA Hall of Fame, that is way too cool and he is very deserving of it. I also liked the part in the interview where Gerry said that Willie no longer looks like a Caveman LOL, Willie's musical talent has definitely been a very important part of AMERICA and their music. We tend to leave him on the back burner soo to speak, but we all appreciate his musical talent too. Thanks Willie! Keep on a twirling them drumsticks! :)

Hmmmm ~~ Hey there Vic ~~ I just gotta say, my inquiring mind was a wondering just why you were bringing up this header pic again... and just why you wanted to know if there was a way to verify if it had indeed been flipped from the original pic.... I remember us discussing this back when the new pic was placed on the header.... Also now this has sparked this Trivia Question from Johnny, I can't somehow help but wonder just how these 2 are connected and what it means. Hmmm Vic ~~ You sure do bring out some interesting puzzling thoughts! Thanks for your input on the chat folder and message board!

AHA Johnny ~~~ Regarding this trivia question.... My answer to this in my first post that went off into cyberspace was TRUE, but upon losing it, I saw that Vic had posted his answer as FALSE soooo I am just a wondering now what really gives here... I must admit you capitalizing ACTUALITY caught my attention.... and made me really look at these 3 pics carefully, as well as the pic in the Highway book... I am curious to see just what this all SPELLS out... so yes my answer was the OBVIOUS TRUE but my MIND wants to say FALSE but has no explanation to back it up, only curiousity and wonder.... Thanks for sharing all of your AMERICA trivia and knowledge with us! :)

Funny Neil Young being brought up here ~~~ Jimmmmm(bob) and I had recently been talking about his earlier album too, and I was listening to some of his songs over the weekend... It is too much how People have come to think it was he that did Horse with No Name, it must just be me, but I made sure after hearing HWNN on the radio that I listened closely to see who sang it sooooo I could run out and get my hands on it... Ooooh excuse me ~~ Timothy B Schmitt is here singing I Can't Tell You WHY and he just manages to take me away with his voice, the lyrics and oooooooh soo much more.... I can't tell you why tho ;)

Nice to see Ambrosia & Firefall being mentioned, I really like Firefalls's songs and I must admit I only know Ambrosia for their released hits.... It would be good to see them in a show with AMERICA. Hmmm this just came to my mind John saying he had been a fan of Chicago's and that in turn brought up Gerry's friendship with Robert Lamm and their working together on Beckley, Lamm & Wilson.... It was neat Gerry saying that after all of these years AMERICA will get to play a show together or at the same time and place as Chicago... that in all these years, as good of friends they have been and they have never played a show together.... Nice! I could handle seeing this show for sure!

Hey there Redddd ~~ I hope Mr DJ meets your request to play the live version of Sandman on the radio there in Denver.... that would be soo neat to hear. :)

I know there is soo much more that I could post on... but I gotta close for now.... Thanks everybody for all of your neat input and for reading my on and on FOREVER Posts.... I sure do love posting! :)

Oohhhh yes psuhooked ~~~ I searched the archives of a couple newspapers from the State College area to see if I could help you out at all, but I couldn't find any that would allow me to go back that far. I had a neighbor that I grew up beside that went to the PSU State College Campus... if I could find a way to contact him now, maybe he would remember this concert... I know he went to a Chicago concert there about that time, because he had asked me to go with him to it, but my parents wouldn't allow me to go, (they said I was too young) Darn! ~~ I am finding it hard to believe I didn't know they played a show there. Good Luck, I will try and find this guy, I know your time is running out tho to find this info... I hope it all comes back to you. Pretty neat that your 30th ann. starts with sharing an AMERICA concert...

Hey there DanC ~~~ This gumshoe wishes she could help you out too somehow.... You have been searching for this 77-78 show info for quite some time now. You best be a smiling too! :)

Take care and have a great day! Nancy :) ~~ I just love the thought of getting to hear Matt do Monster on his new CD. Soo NEAT! :)

~~~ I wanna live with a Cinnamon Girl, I could be happy for the rest of my life with a Cinnamon Girl ~~ I dream of her pictures, I run in the night, I see us together chasing the moonlight, my cinnamon girl.... Sing it Mr. Neil Young :) ;) ;)

Message: 27584 Posted: Tue Apr 29 08:17:40 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Trivia Question


Message: 27583 Posted: Tue Apr 29 06:52:11 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Trivia Question

Vic and Everyone ~ Here's a trivia question regarding the FRONT cover of the first three America LPs. I'd like to preface this with the following: If you care to venture a guess, please answer only true or false but DON'T tell why you think so. This will let others play along too (if anyone cares). :0)

True or false??? In ACTUALITY, 2 out of the 3 first America LP photos (front covers only), Dan is either standing or sitting to Gerry's right?

Message: 27582 Posted: Tue Apr 29 06:12:03 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Irvine Pic Questions

JimNak, Thanks for the up close and personal photos from Irvine. I have some questions: I count six guitars in the horse dip including Dewey's. Who were the extra two people? Could one be our favorite son, mB? Also, is that the lovely Mrs. Beckley on the left side of the photo? It looks like you had one heck of a vantage point, did you take more photos? If so, please share. As always, WE WANT MORE!! Did you get to meet up with Windwave? I think he was going to be there.

Message: 27581 Posted: Tue Apr 29 05:51:26 2003 By: Ladd
Subject: Re: Ambrosia

--Ambrosia seems like a pretty cool band from the few songs I've heard. "Holdin' on to Yesterday" is cool and "Biggest Part of me" is a nice ballad too. "How much I feel" i'm not a huge fan of, too formulaic for my tastes. But it would be cool to see them, they would make a cool opening act for America. I would like to hear them in concert again together. I've heard they have some cool earlier albums, very arty and sort of progressive rock. Any one heard these albums?--

I heard a cut off Ambrosia's first album on my 70s pop Internet radio station the other day. It was called "Nice, Nice, Very Nice" and was REALLY good. Somehow it was a perfect synthesis of prog rock and that 70s pop sound we all know and love. I was very impressed and it was far better than much of the cheese on ONE EIGHTY (easily one of the most uneven album of all times given the quality of the hits).

Now I'm thinking I need to check Ambrosia's early stuff out at some point.


Message: 27580 Posted: Tue Apr 29 04:46:43 2003 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Willie In The Hall Of Fame

That is AWESOME news....Congratulations Willie!

Message: 27579 Posted: Tue Apr 29 02:50:16 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Willie In The Hall Of Fame

FYI: Willie Leacox is going to be inducted into the Iowa Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. I don't have any details yet, but I'm supposed to receive an article about it sometime in the future (via snail-mail). I'll post it as soon as I get it.

Message: 27578 Posted: Mon Apr 28 23:06:36 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Dan, Dewey, Gerry Gerry, Dewey, Dan

Johnny, you nailed it, I knew you would. I remember, sometime last year, you posted something similar about the photos from the "Hat Trick" poster. I believe it was Steve L., that came up with the correct answer, back then.

Message: 27577 Posted: Mon Apr 28 20:32:56 2003 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Interview

It's great to hear an interview w/someone that is a fan, & has some interest in the music. (Instead of whats your fave food, color, movie, etc) THANX

Message: 27576 Posted: Mon Apr 28 19:52:34 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Still Neil Young

Was at the grocery store yesterday when the cashier who's in her mid-40s asked a customer who she was listening to on her headphones. The young customer said Depeche Mode (sp?). Anyway, I asked the cashier if she knows who America is. She said no. I said, "Really? They had the hits Sister Golden Hair, Ventura Highway, Tin Man, and Horse With No Name". She replied, "Oh yeah, Horse With No Name, that's Neil Young. I like him." I thought, "HELLO! I just said it's a song by AMERICA." I found the whole matter a bit incredible (as well as funny but in a sad way, if you know what I mean).

Message: 27575 Posted: Mon Apr 28 18:23:41 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Dan, Dewey, Gerry Gerry, Dewey, Dan

<<The picture of Dan, Dewey and Gerry, at the top of this page, is reversed from the original. How could one verify this?>>

Vic ~ Here is how to verify it: Get the "Highway" booklet and turn to page 21. That's the same image as the one that appears on the top of this page but in color here. The photo in the "Highway" booklet is correct (and the one here is reversed) because Gerry and Dan's Levi jackets are correct with the buttons on the right side. Also, the shirt that Dewey's wearing is correct with the outter snaps on the left side. So, this all means that the photo in the "Highway" booklet is correct and that the picture at the top of this page is reversed.

Here's a similar matter: If you get out the poster from "Hat Trick," you'll see that the center photo is also reversed (I'm talking about the side of the poster with the numerous photos). It shows Dan's Levi jacket with the buttons incorrectly on the left side. Also, it shows Dewey wearing his wedding ring on his right hand. From all the other album photos, Dew is shown wearing the ring on his left hand.

How'd I do???

Message: 27574 Posted: Mon Apr 28 17:28:24 2003 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: Re: Interview

In the other interview - Dewey mentions that they may be recording some new material with Andrew Gold producing....Tough to type with my fingers crossed

Message: 27573 Posted: Mon Apr 28 17:19:50 2003 By: Spurs
Subject: Interview

Hello everyone,rather pleasing to see a new interview with Gerry.Just wondering how the "Cayman" live outing did and if there were any plans for a new studio disc.

Message: 27572 Posted: Mon Apr 28 17:18:32 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Re: Gerry Interview and Ambrosia

I really enjoyed that interview with Gerry also. John, who did the interview mentioned that he has been an America fan for a long time. He really did know a lot about them and asked Gerry some good questions.~~Regarding Ambrosia, I only have the Anthology CD by them and agree with Steve that it's really great. Ambrosia didn't quite make it to my Friday night jam this past weekend, but they were in my thoughts of CD's to listen to. I don't know much more about their music. I'll have to check out their website.~~Cathy

Message: 27571 Posted: Mon Apr 28 16:36:15 2003 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Gerry Interview,Ambrosia,David Pack & Firefall

Hey anyone who mentions SILENT LETTER & HOURGLASS can't be all that bad, now we know. He even identified 1960 & AND FOR EVER. For once a journalist who knows the details of AMERICA. See what can happen, John really got GERRY to open up. He didn't start w/questions like, "What's your favorite color ?" And now we need an interview like that w/Mr. DEWEY BUNNELL.

Message: 27570 Posted: Mon Apr 28 16:05:45 2003 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Gerry Interview,Ambrosia,David Pack & Firefall

Outstanding interview by both John & Gerry! Very detailed! I appreciated Gerry's comments about Bands like CCR & Journey that continue to tour without the Principal members(John Fogerty & Steve Perry). As for Ambrosia,I recieved a copy of their most recent CD. It was a "Live" collection. All the hits were included,but David Pack was NOT among the participants on the disk. And while the CD was OK,it wasn't the same without Pack singing the songs that made that band famous. As for Firefall,I saw them in their heyday at the California State Fair in 1980,and it was a great show. I understand that they are now down to one original member(Jock Bartley)and he's not even the original vocalist. I can't imagine that the current incarnation would be worth watching. Anybody on this board caught them recently? Would be interesting to know how they sound.

Message: 27569 Posted: Mon Apr 28 14:40:13 2003 By: rc
Subject: Re: Ambrosia..correction of sort. D.Pack

when I posted earlier I had thought that D.Pack was still performing at times with the group...
I found this at his website under the news section..
Not Perfoming with Ambrosia
In Jan. David quietly announced that he has stopped performing with Ambrosia under protest of the disrespectful treatment of himself, his family, as well as fans and promoters.

I don't know if that was ever resolved. There is a lot of info on projects he has been involved with if anyone is interested..The site hasn't been updated recently...

Message: 27568 Posted: Mon Apr 28 14:31:22 2003 By: KevinS.
Subject: Great stuff.

The John Beaudin interview was stellar. Thanks, John. And, Gerry, for being so available.

As far as psu hooked is concerned, I don't get it. I thought women had memories like elephants about such things. I mean, how is it you could forget such an important date and my wife remembers everything about everything? She remembers what shirt I was wearing when we first met and that was 25 years ago. I can barely remember her name.

Good luck finding the info you need though.


Message: 27567 Posted: Mon Apr 28 14:14:07 2003 By: rc
Subject: Ambrosia...current members.

As far as I know this is the list of members currently..
of Joe Puerta, Burleigh Drummond, Christopher North,(orignial)
Tollak Ollestad, and Doug Jackson.(not exactly sure when they joined)
Shem... Shem took over many of David Pack's vocal duties I believe. He had been touring with them on and off during the 90's..
David Pack no longer tours with the group but he has played performances with them from time to time.. Mostly in California though. if anyone is interested..

Message: 27566 Posted: Mon Apr 28 11:39:39 2003 By: Robsl
Subject: Ambrosia

Ambrosia seems like a pretty cool band from the few songs I've heard. "Holdin' on to Yesterday" is cool and "Biggest Part of me" is a nice ballad too. "How much I feel" i'm not a huge fan of, too formulaic for my tastes. But it would be cool to see them, they would make a cool opening act for America. I would like to hear them in concert again together. I've heard they have some cool earlier albums, very arty and sort of progressive rock. Any one heard these albums?

Message: 27565 Posted: Mon Apr 28 11:02:39 2003 By: jeff brink
Subject: Re: Ambrosia & Sandman

....have a few David Benoit cd's. David Pack (Ambrosia) sings on a couple two or three of them. One song that I particularly like is titled "Any other time" off the cd "Shaken, not stirred".

Folks, be sure and check out Jeff Larson's soundclips. The song "Windblown mind" sounds great!


Message: 27564 Posted: Mon Apr 28 10:16:56 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Ambrosia & Sandman

Tx Steve and I would ditto ur remarks on Ambrosia. That would be a nice twosome, Ambrosia & America(the double a's). I didn't mean those double A's!!!!!!!!!

Message: 27563 Posted: Mon Apr 28 10:10:18 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Ambrosia & Sandman

Also, on what CDs is Sandman performed live? I want to request the live version on local radio and would like to know.

Live In Central Park (only on LaserDisc/VHS so this one will be tough to get played on the radio)
America In Concert - King Biscuit Flower Hour (1995)
America Live (recompilation of the KBFH 1995 album)
Hits You Remember Live (another recompilation of the KBFH 1995 album)
The Grand Cayman Concert

I hope that helps!


P.S. America and Ambrosia played together several years ago in southern California and after that concert I picked up Ambrosia's Anthology CD. I knew 4 or 5 songs already but the ones I hadn't heard before were just as good or better. It was a great CD that I would recommend to everyone.

Message: 27562 Posted: Mon Apr 28 09:58:30 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Ambrosia & Sandman

I was wondering if anyone knows the current touring members of Ambrosia? Their music is awesome as well as Firefall's. Also, on what CDs is Sandman performed live? I want to request the live version on local radio and would like to know. Tx.

A plane with 4 passengers is about to crash, but has only 3

The first passenger said, "I'm Kobe Bryant, the best NBA basketball
player. The Lakers need me, I can't afford to die.." So he took the first parachute and left the plane.

The second passenger, Hillary Clinton, said, "I am the wife of the
former President of the United States; I am the most ambitious woman in the world. I am also a New York Senator, a potential future President and, above all, the smartest woman in the world." She grabbed the second parachute and jumped out of the plane.

The third passenger, Rev. Billy Graham, says to the fourth
passenger, a 10 year-old school boy, "I am old and I don't have many years left. As a Christian I will sacrifice my life and let you have the last parachute."

The boy said, "It's ok; there's still a parachute left for you.
America's smartest woman took my school backpack."

Message: 27561 Posted: Mon Apr 28 09:42:34 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Dan, Dewey, Gerry - Gerry, Dewey, Dan

The picture of Dan, Dewey and Gerry, at the top of this page, is reversed from the original. How could one verify this?

We could ask David Moretti. He's the one who created it. (I know that's not the answer you're looking for, but it works for me - LOL.)

Message: 27560 Posted: Mon Apr 28 09:28:59 2003 By: Duffy
Subject: Gerry Interview

Thanks,for the great article. WOW is all I can say about it!!

Message: 27559 Posted: Mon Apr 28 09:21:16 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Dan, Dewey, Gerry Gerry, Dewey, Dan

The picture of Dan, Dewey and Gerry, at the top of this page, is reversed from the original. How could one verify this?

Message: 27558 Posted: Mon Apr 28 09:01:20 2003 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Gerry Interview

What a great interview...thanks for making it available!
Erin :o)

Message: 27557 Posted: Mon Apr 28 08:25:15 2003 By: speechwriter
Subject: Re: Firefall

The first four Firefall LPs, in my view, were really stellar. After that, they ran their formula into the ground, and then made an ill-advised turn into hard rock and male-female duet pop. One late-in-the-game exception: the song "Wing Mouth," from the LP "Clouds Across the Sun."

Message: 27556 Posted: Mon Apr 28 00:00:58 2003 By: psu hooked
Subject: Re: Anyone have a 73 tour schedule-research tip

OMG, what a kind person!! I would flip if you found this. I shall keep fingers crossed! Thank you sooo much

Message: 27555 Posted: Sun Apr 27 23:38:58 2003 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Gerry Interview

Great interview. Thanks for making it available. Just makes me long for a concert close by. (heavy sigh)

Message: 27554 Posted: Sun Apr 27 21:47:37 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Gerry Interview

I just checked my e-mail and there was a message from John Beaudin telling me about his interview with Gerry. Then I checked this chat folder and there was a link to it. The link that was given was actually a link to John's main home page. Here's a direct link to the article: John was kind enough to add a link to the America Fans web site at the bottom of the article and I'll be adding a link to his web site the next time I update the home page.

Thanks, John, for the great article. And thanks, Gerry, for sharing that with all of us!

Message: 27553 Posted: Sun Apr 27 19:55:10 2003 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: Gerry Interview

Kade, thanks so much for posting the link to the Gerry interview. Everyone should read it NOW! Like "jimnak" said, the person asking the questions went beyond the "usual" stuff and the result is riveting. I couldn't stop reading!

Message: 27552 Posted: Sun Apr 27 19:25:02 2003 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Interview with Gerry Beckley

Geeze, Loueeze, that's one of the best GERRY interviews I have read. That journalist really knew AMERICA, I think that was a big plus.
A great interview by the legendary GERRY BECKLEY of AMERICA.

Message: 27551 Posted: Sun Apr 27 19:00:54 2003 By: Brad
Subject: Re: Hamilton, OH concert

Yep that was me at the pops. In the paper today Cincy Enquirer it said the music begins at 2:30. I am hoping for the long show because I want to hear Company live. I have to listen to the station to listen for my name to be called for my backstage pass here pretty soon. Have a nice week.

Message: 27550 Posted: Sun Apr 27 18:31:21 2003 By: Kade
Subject: Interview with Gerry Beckley

Hi all... I just read an interesting interview that was posted on it out at Enjoy!!

Message: 27549 Posted: Sun Apr 27 17:28:36 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Re: Contest Here A Few Years Back and Solid Vs. Stripes

Hi, Johnny and Steve. Thanks for the answers to my questions. Johnny, the T shirt I have is one I purchased in 2001 at one of their concerts. It is the green Ventura Highway shirt and has the America logo on the back. I think it's the same one that is available on their merchandise page. The contest that was held sounds really neat and I'm sure there are many musically talented fans out there. Thanks Steve for posting a link to more information about it and the history of the website and chat folder. I really do appreciate the work you put into this. It is a fun place to visit and you keep it so current with information about the band. It's fun to share things with other fans. You're all great.~~Cathy

Message: 27548 Posted: Sun Apr 27 15:16:53 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Contest Here A Few Years Back and Solid Vs. Stripes

Cathy, Johnny has already done a pretty good job of answering your questions. Here's a little bit more.

First of all, you asked about the web site and how long it has been existence. Let me refer you to the America Fans Web Site History that I wrote in June of last year. Regarding the contest, it was held in 2001 and ended around the first of May. Click here to see the results of the contest and an explanation of what it was all about. I probably have the CD with those songs on it somewhere, but I'd have to dig to find it. --SteveL

Message: 27547 Posted: Sun Apr 27 14:57:17 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Contest Here A Few Years Back and Solid Vs. Stripes (Cathy)

Hi Cathy ~ The contest that I mentioned from a few years back was one in which interested fans recorded themselves performing an America song. The tapes were sent in to Steve who linked them up for all of us to hear. We would then cast our vote for our favorite performance. I can't remember exactly how many tapes were submitted, but I tend to remember that it was around ten. I believe one person opted to perform a non-America song instead. I'm thinking that it was a CSN&Y song, but I'm a bit fuzzy about it. A majority of the performers sang while playing an instrument. There were a couple of instrumental only recordings performed with either a guitar or a piano. I remember that everyone did a wonderful job! They were all impressive. I remember thinking how talented they all are. I can only recall the following folks who participated (I hope I'm not mistaken): Pat Bennett, Terry Trost, Matt Beckley, Teri Holly, Jim Nakao, Cathy Mc of Taos, New Mexico, and Eddy Foresman.

It's interesting that D&G have the solid "flying A" on their website home page. Regarding the America t-shirt that you mentioned, Cathy, is it one from Tour 2000? It and one that I have from "Hearts" are the only two that have the striped "flying A".

Regarding knowing America trivia, there's a handful of others here who have direct contact with the band who know AT LEAST 10 times more, but thanks for the kind words. :0)

Message: 27546 Posted: Sun Apr 27 11:48:33 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Contest Here A Few Years Back and Solid Vs. Stripes

Johnny, tell us more about this contest from a few years back. I haven't known about this chat folder for very long and am curious. Also, I've wondered how long the chat folder and website have been in existence. Johnny, you have incredible knowledge about America trivia. I always thought the America logo is a really neat design but never paid much attention to the solid vs. stripes on it. I think the cutes guys on the cover got in the way of my looking too closely at the graphic. I noticed however, that there are stripes on my T shirt, probably because the logo is larger than on album covers.~~Cathy

Message: 27545 Posted: Sun Apr 27 11:16:13 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Solid Vs. Stripes

I've always been impressed with the great-looking AMERICA logo with its "flying A". If you're like me, you've noticed over the years that sometimes the "A" is designed with HORIZONTAL STRIPES and other times it's SOLID, instead. It appears that the striped "flying A" is more popular among designers especially in the last 25 years. Here's the breakdown on the "flying A" as it appears on the front cover of America's LPs/CDs:

Holiday =====
History solid
Hearts =====
Hideaway solid
Harbor solid
Live solid
View =====
In Concert =====
Encore =====
Hourglass solid
H Nature =====
Highway =====
H Harmony =====
G. Cayman =====

A few more observations about the "flying A":

From the "Highway" booklet, America's airplane that they use to own had the solid "A".

As most of us know, King Biscuit has issued the 1982 live concert from Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio with 3 or 4 different CD covers. The one and only time that they selected to use the official America logo on the front cover, they went with the striped "flying A".

Message: 27544 Posted: Sun Apr 27 10:57:35 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Humorous Stickers From Matt

If the rest of mB's songs from his upcoming CD is anything like his cover of "Monster" was (that I remember hearing back during a contest here a few years back), his CD is bound to be awesome.

Message: 27543 Posted: Sun Apr 27 10:06:46 2003 By: rc
Subject: Re: Humorous Stickers From Matt

lol that's cool.. great marketing idea..

Message: 27542 Posted: Sun Apr 27 08:48:17 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Anyone have a 73 tour schedule-research tip

my library site is down this morning but I will see what I can find otherwise.

Message: 27541 Posted: Sun Apr 27 08:46:34 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Humorous Stickers From Matt

I put my "this chick" sticker on my car. Dh is gonna find the "This guy.." sticker on his when he comes home from Vegas

Message: 27540 Posted: Sun Apr 27 08:22:54 2003 By: psu hooked
Subject: Re: Anyone have a 73 tour schedule-research tip

Every time I get a hit on this message my heart skips a beat. I would LOVE to surprise my loved one with this anniversary! I am sure it is around now. Ok, LA, one more date out of the running, I have Michigan, Maryland, and now LA out of the calendar. Robyn, that was an excellent suggestion but I live in London, England, so the local library is probably not interested in the activities of State College, Pa in 73. I tried looking on the archives on the internet for both the collegiate paper and the local, but niether go back that far. Any kind soul live in State College who fancies a trip to the library? Is there a library source on the internet? Hmmmm. Thanks for the tip, this is driving me nuts! C'mon, check your memorabilia! I even cruised around Ebay and found a few dates to eliminate.
Pretty pretty please?

Message: 27539 Posted: Sun Apr 27 08:17:53 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Humorous Stickers From Matt

Click here to see some humorous stickers from Matt Beckley - just for fun!

Message: 27538 Posted: Sun Apr 27 08:13:47 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: More Irvine Posters

JimNak sent me a couple more posters about the Irvine concert. Click below to take a look:

Color poster announcing all of the acts
Brochure page describing each group

Jim also sent me some photos from the Irvine concert including some photos of the new bass player, Richard Campbell, and his unique 6-string bass guitar. I'll get those posted as soon as possible. Mo, I still have your IUP photos and I'll post those first so don't give up on me. Thanks for all your patience.

Message: 27537 Posted: Sun Apr 27 08:01:35 2003 By: Jerey
Subject: Re: Hamilton, OH concert

Thanks Brad. If you get any further info please pass it along. I believe I saw you at the Cincy Pops show. I was to the right of stage in the second row. I think you sat at the left of stage center. Anyway, hope to see you at the Hamilton show. I also hope I get the opportunity to meet G & D again.

Message: 27536 Posted: Sun Apr 27 08:01:23 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: mB live, the Review and Misheard lyrics


I did get my tapes and have been greatly enjoying them, the concerts and interviews,learning more and more about our favorite group. The Ecuador concert blew me away, it was so "complete" covering such rare songs as "The Last Unicorn". Wow! I used to enjoy watching "The Last Unicorn" movie on video with my son and daughter when they were small, and I always got a kick that my favorite group performed the title song. "The Last Unicorn" introduced America to my kids.

Also on one of the tapes I got to see Dan Peek doing a cover of "A Horse With No Name" and he did a great job. All very interisting stuff.


Message: 27535 Posted: Sun Apr 27 06:18:22 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Re: Matt Beckley's CD and Other Merchandise

I want to add more to my last post. Words bother me because they can only convey a small amount of our actual thoughts and emotions and I need to write more. I listened to Matt Beckley's sound clips when he first put them out on his website and enjoyed them so much that I'm anxious to hear more from him. I think it's neat that he chose to do a song written by his dad, "Monster" and is including it on the CD and it will be neat to hear how he will perform this song. I am excited that he has worked with his dad on this, because I have an image in my mind of the two of them working together~~NEAT. But, even if he had not it wouldn't matter. And Robyn, thank you for your posts regarding his recordings and seeing him live. You feel that he is an up and coming major talent. That makes me anxious to hear more from him and buy his CD too.~~~Cathy

Message: 27534 Posted: Sat Apr 26 20:16:54 2003 By: Robyn

Baskin Robbins ( aka 31 Flavors) is doing the same thing on April 30, for each free cone given away, a donation will be made to a literacy program that encourages reading to infants. Ah well, if i HAVE to eat ice cream for a good cause.......

Message: 27533 Posted: Sat Apr 26 20:08:36 2003 By: Brad
Subject: Re: Hamilton, OH concert

Hey that is a festive seating sort of show and local acts start early. They are headlining with KC and the Sunshine Band and Mark Lindesy of Paul Revere and the Raiders. I am hoping that America will close the show.They have the oldies fest every year, and I have went once to see Johnny Rivers. I have entered a contest on WGRR to win backstage passes . Locally Biggs started selling tickets Friday .If your coming from 3 hours away I would bet that America wont play till 7 pm.


Message: 27532 Posted: Sat Apr 26 19:55:45 2003 By: Johnny

Bruce ~ Thanks for the free ice cream cone tip. Unfortunately for me, there's no local Ben & Jerry's. Not even one in either New Mexico or Texas!

Perhaps your post isn't totally off-topic:

Dewey's "MY DEAR"

They're in love with the news
And don't show if they're living in fear (still nobody seems to be here)
They eat ICE CREAM alone
Watch the waves at the end of the pier (ah, nobody seems to hear)
Please, can you help me, my dear

Dewey's "MOON SONG"

Orange FUNNELS and snowy tunnels
Summer troubles and books in bundles

(Couldn't find any lyrics with the word "cones". "Funnels" was as close as it comes, I guess. :0)

Message: 27531 Posted: Sat Apr 26 19:31:53 2003 By: Jerey
Subject: Hamilton, OH concert

I checked the linked website for the OH concert and was not able to find a time for the America show at the fair. The site said oldies from 10:30-dark and was wondering exactly what time the guys would be performing. I would like to go for the entire event but babysitting is an issue. You parents out there know what I am speaking of. I was wondering if Steve could get an official time for best concert of the day. America is one of the few reasons I would drive three hours to see.

Message: 27530 Posted: Sat Apr 26 18:41:00 2003 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: Misheard lyrics

One of my favorites sites. I recommend it strongly.


Message: 27529 Posted: Sat Apr 26 17:34:33 2003 By: Bruce David Martin

Hey folks! I know this is "off topic" but I feel it is my civic duty to inform you of the following: Ben & Jerry's are giving away FREE ICE CREAM CONES! That's right, this is not an internet hoax. It is REAL! Just go to this site: (Click on "Free Cone Day" on the left) Oh yeah, and if you do not forward this to 50 people within 30 minutes...

Message: 27528 Posted: Sat Apr 26 16:53:32 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: 2002 Concert Song List Sheet

For sale on eBay last week was an America song list sheet from the 2002 New York State Fair. Listed below are the abbreviations along with the mis-spelling of Daisy Jane, Wind Wave, and Woman Tonight.


(The following songs were actually crossed out: Wind Wave, Another Try, Three Roses, Baby It's Up To You, Wheels Are Turning, The Border, Hangover, and California Revisited. Next to "Border" was written the word, "IN". I assume that meant it was to be played after all. I found the list to be interesting with its abbreviations and mis-spellings. I hope you did, too.)

Message: 27527 Posted: Sat Apr 26 15:17:27 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Anyone have a 73 tour schedule-research tip

ok , I'm not a Librarian, but I play one on the Internet..... Go to the local libary and check the newspaper archives for spring of 73. There probably will be an ad in the Entertainment ection or better yet a review. Good hunting! I saw them on March 13, 1973 in Los ANgeles....

Message: 27526 Posted: Sat Apr 26 15:09:19 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Matt Beckley's CD and Other Merchandise

Buy the cd, not becasue Gerry and the other artists back up Matt, but because Matt is a terific musician, whose work SHOULD be in you collection. I have had the good fortune to be able to see Matt perform a number of times. He is wonderful and his songs are powerful, they stick in your head. Do yourself a favor and check out this up and coming major talent. BTW if this cd is the same tracks that I have on a demo, you really have to listen to even HEAR Mr Beckley senior. Matt's version of Monster is great. He makes that wonderful enigmatic song written by his fathaer his very own. SO BUY THE CD.. you won't be sorry.

Message: 27525 Posted: Sat Apr 26 10:33:02 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Anyone have a 73 tour schedule?

"PSU Hooked" ~ Although I have some America tour memorabilia, I don't have a thing from 1973. I have seen a couple of America t-shirts from 1973 but none of them listed any dates. :0(

Dan ~ The only dates that I found in the archives for 1977 and 1978 are the following two: Denver 3/05/77 and Hollywood 7/04/78. From Dewey's memorabilia concert tickets found in the "Highway" booklet are two dates: UCLA Pauley Pavilion 3/12/77 and Exposition Building - Fairgounds, Boise, Idaho 2/25/78.

From among all the America tour shirts I have (about 20), not a single one of them lists the cities on the shirt. One from 1976 has "World Tour" printed on the front with a picture of the world globe but no dates nor anything printed on the back.

Message: 27524 Posted: Sat Apr 26 09:53:18 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Matt Beckley's CD and Other Merchandise

Hi, just wanted to let you guys know that Matt Beckley's website now has a merchandise page and there is a picture of his cd along with a track listing, T Shirts and stickers. It says that the CD will be available mid-May but preorders will be taken soon. There is a track listing and he does Monster, and I think it says that GERRY, GERRY, GERRY is one of the guest artists on his CD. YES, YES, YES!!! I always loved the song Monster and am anxious to hear Matt perform it. His website address is He also has new pictures on the site too, from his live performance in March. He is adorable just like his dad.~~~Matt, this is all so exciting. I wish you every success.~~~Cathy

Message: 27523 Posted: Sat Apr 26 09:17:23 2003 By: psu hooked
Subject: Re: Anyone have a 73 tour schedule?

Yeah, must be some memorabilia collector who has a schedule, this 73 concert is the anniversary of the first date of the love of my life. It is our 30 year anniversary and altho we both know it was the concert where we fell in love, neither of us can remember the exact date. It is sometime around now. I would love to surprise him with this date. We have both been keen America fans thru the years, they always remind of us of the first time. C'mon someone! Must be someone who knows, I have eliminated a few dates as I know they were in concert somewhere else by looking at the museum memorabilia.

Pretty please?

Message: 27522 Posted: Sat Apr 26 04:28:10 2003 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Anyone have a 73 tour schedule?

Sorry, can't help you there but since you asked for a 73 tour schedule, I would like a 77 or 78 tour schedule. cmon all you gumshoes help us out.DanC.

Message: 27521 Posted: Sat Apr 26 00:31:48 2003 By: rc
Subject: Bones! Toto concert...

Ok now dish the dirt on the concert you saw lol...lucky you!! Toto hasn't really toured in forever.. If you remember any of the play list please share...Toto has always been one of my favorite groups..I see Bobby Kimball is back..too bad Steve P. isn't... bummer... and with Jeff P. passed on must be weird to see a different drummer... Did you like stuff off the new album?
Glad you enjoyed the show!

Message: 27520 Posted: Fri Apr 25 21:04:10 2003 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Friday Evening Jam and Call Reports

Saw TOTO tonight at the Mohegan Sun. Talk about a High-Energy band, WOW!!!!!! If you ever get a chance to see them live, do it.

Message: 27519 Posted: Fri Apr 25 18:25:50 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Friday Evening Jam and Call Reports

Hello everyone, it is now Friday evening here in PA and reading the posts has me in the mood for an evening jam of the Beach Boys~~LOVE their music and harmonies.~~~Nancy, so you were working on the Call Report. I worked in banking for 19 years and did many call reports during that time~~some of them over 30 pages long. I must be crazy to be able to do this for a living, but my best advice is to put on some great tunes to get through it. I now work in healthcare and do the accounting for physician practices. It's actually very interesting~~a much needed change from the banking industry. They are cutting back staff everywhere though and the hospital that I work at is no exception. A girl that works in my department was laid off today. I felt so bad when she came in and told me. I hope it won't take her too long to find another job. She would have been there a year this Tuesday and I used to work with her in a previous banking job. I know this is off topic, but I just had to express that I feel bad that she was let go. She was the last one hired.~~~Well, it's time to relax and unwind to the Beach Boys, America, maybe some Ambrosia and other great tunes jam.~~Cathy

Message: 27518 Posted: Fri Apr 25 15:41:16 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Firefall

Ladd, don't own anything by them any longer, but Batdof and Rodney, from the early 70's, was a wonderful acoustic duo. Not sure how to get a hold of anything by them, on disc, at this time. They had 3 albums, "Off The Shelf", "Batdorf And Rodney" and "Life Is You". Go to Amazon, enter their names under "music" and read the reviews.

Message: 27517 Posted: Fri Apr 25 13:46:26 2003 By: psu hooked
Subject: Anyone have a 73 tour schedule?

PLEASE, someone put me out my misery. I am looking for a specific date if anyone knows it or has a world tour t shirt or something to check. I have searched the web and I was just about to give up until I found this message board. I saw America at Penn State Univ in spring 73. It was a fabulous concert and an important anniversary coming up of 30 years which should be some time around now, but I don't know the exact date! Can anyone help me? I would be very appreciative! Thanks

Message: 27516 Posted: Fri Apr 25 13:30:44 2003 By: rc
Subject: Re: OT: Music Downloaders..some help?advice

awww Steve you're a doll :-)....Thankyou for all the info.. I think the first part answers his question because after I made post, I remembered he said he was looking at one that holds 100 songs, so I am assuming that is one with a memory he could have meant it holds 100 minutes of music vs number of songs lol not sure. But will pass all the info on to him..
Thankyou again.
Robin C

Message: 27515 Posted: Fri Apr 25 13:15:14 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: OT: Music Downloaders..some help?advice

I have 2 different kinds of MP3 players. One uses a memory stick and the other plays CD's with MP3's burned on them. The player with the memory stick connects to my computer via a USB cable and the MP3 files are downloaded from the computer using some software that came with player. Many of today's MP3 playing programs can also download to USB devices. To play MP3 files on my MP3/CD player, I simply burn the MP3 files as data files on to a regular CD-R (or CD-RW) and then play them in the player like a normal music CD. My memory stick only holds about 70 minutes of music but my CD-R's hold over 11 hours. I obviously prefer the CD-R's.

Regarding software to burn the CD-R's, I prefer Easy CD Pro but just about any software package that comes with a burner will work. I've also found that most of the CD burners these days are pretty good and they've come down a lot in price. I bought my son a burner from Staples several months ago for $39 (after $40 rebate) and it has worked great (I don't remember the brand).

Finally, you can download MP3's from the Internet and then download them to a memory stick or burn them onto a CD-R. I hope that answers your questions.


Message: 27514 Posted: Fri Apr 25 12:45:15 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: mB live, the Review and Misheard lyrics

Me Again ~~~
Wow!!! Robyn Matt had to be smiling big time, I asked him one time what his favorite AMERICA song was at the live chat and he told me Monster ~~~ Sooo Nice that Gerry was there and got up and sang this song with Matt. WOW~~A One in a Million Delight I bet! ~~~ Sounds like we missed out on a nice playlist of songs, thanks for sharing this with us. Ooooooh how I would love to be able to see one of his shows... For Sure! :)

Hi there John ~~ I checked out those Misheard lyrics, yes they sure were a variety of entries... too much. Thanks they added a Smile to my day.

Hmmmmm is that really a post from you Ladd??? ~~ WOW! It took Firefall to bring you to post! I love Firefall ~~ yes lots of nice smooth accoustic flowing songs... nice lyrics as well. ~~ I am glad to see you are still alive and listening to some really great music. Enjoy! :)

Thanks Sergio for posting the lyrics to BB's Don't Worry Baby! That song sounded soo nice to my weary head. ~~ I got that report done and faxed to my advisor, I am now waiting to hear if I messed it up any...I must say these reports are the only frustrating thing to my work. ~~~ Take care and have a great weekend, I hope you got your tapes by now to watch. I am sure you will be on a AMERICA high. :)

Hi Mary ~~ I survived and am ready to crash for sure! My daughter would love living at your house. Too much you having a gecko! take care and have a good weekend! :)

Hi Whit ~~ Glad you enjoyed the live chat, it is fun, I look forward to it. ~~ Yes Red is a Classic isn't he! Bones had me cracking up big time too! Can you hear me now Pete! :) LOL!!! We do get outta hand a little bit, but for the most part we do discuss AMERICA and their music! We just all hit it off well together and that is nice! :)

Okay I gotta get again! Time for the kids bus to come! Enjoy your friday night all! See ya Nancy :)

~~~ was it all in vain, did the faces change, and I never questioned why, now the answer is clear, I Need You hereeee, coz everything I'll ever want, everything I'll ever need, is in youuuuuu girl, everything I'll ever want, everything I'll ever need is in you ~~~ You are my love today, my life tomorrow, ooooooh my very souuuuul, and I searched over the mountains, all through the shadows, under the water tooooooo, all to find, just to find, that everything I'll ever want, everything I'll ever need is in you girllllll, everything I'll ever want, everything I'll ever need is in youuuuuuuuu ~~~~~ now the answer is clear ~~~ Sing it Dewey :) ooooooh what nice lyrics! ;)

Message: 27513 Posted: Fri Apr 25 12:01:57 2003 By: John Corbett
Subject: Misheard lyrics

If you're bored, you can browse America's entry in "", the misheard lyrics page. Some entries are funny, some hokey, some downright bizarre.


Message: 27512 Posted: Fri Apr 25 11:25:37 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: mB live, the review

Well if you missed this one you missed another excellent energetic show from Matt and drummer extrodinaie Kaumyar. Matt gave us a full set of songs about girls.( Matt we really need to find you a girl who won't break your heart, but then where would you get material for new songs?)Matt resurrected my favorite song from the Phobicman days, "since you've gone" all in all a wonderful set, including a work in progress that sounded pretty complete to me!

oh yeah, some guy from the audience came up and sang a song with Matt, the song was Monster. The guy looked an awful lot like Matt....

all in all a wonderful night. Matt is playing there again on a Saturday May 24th. Be there

Message: 27511 Posted: Fri Apr 25 11:14:27 2003 By: Ladd
Subject: Firefall

Well, folks, I just got the first, self-titled Firefall cd (1976) in the mail and I must say this is probably the best acoustic pop/rock band I've heard outside of America. Unlike Bread or Poco, for instance, there are no weak tracks on this album. Every song is gentle, melodic, and wonderful. I'm really impressed by these guys--and now have to track down their next two albums on disc, which are rare.

Who else would you recommend in the country rock arena that produced stuff THIS GOOD?


Message: 27510 Posted: Fri Apr 25 10:31:36 2003 By: Mary Henderson
Subject: Re:LIVE CHAT

Hi,Whit, I enjoyed the live chat on Wednesday night also. Had a great time. I know exactly what you mean about kids and pets. We have 3 dogs, 1 cat, two rabbits, 2 birds, a guinea pig, two fish and a leopard gecko. Who wanted them all and who takes care of them? I bet you go throught the same thing,right? Hope you have a great weekend Take care. Mary

Message: 27509 Posted: Fri Apr 25 10:20:53 2003 By: rc
Subject: OT: Music Downloaders..some help?advice

Looking for some help/advice.
Was talking with a friend the other day who is thinking of getting an mp3 player..He asked if you could download mp3's from the net into the player.. I am clueless lol.. I know you can burn CD's from downloaded files with the right software.. Do you have to do the same thing but use mp3 size disk? Is there such a thing?
He hasn't gotten a cd burner yet, any suggestions as to best kind and best software for burning?
Any help/advice/suggestions would be appreciated..

Message: 27508 Posted: Fri Apr 25 10:17:52 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Friday Morning Jam

Happy Friday Mo, Nancy,and everyone! What a great way to start the weekend with the fun music of the Beach Boys, one of my all time favorite groups. Nancy, "Don't Worry Baby" is my all time favorite Beach Boy song tied with "Help Me Rhonda". "Don't Worry Baby" brings back memories of the summer of '64, released along with "I Get Around". It was a powerful double sided hit. I was 12 then and teenagehood was peeking 'round the corner...Have a great weekend everyone!


Well its been building up inside of me
For oh I don't know how long
I don't know why
But I keep thinking
Something's bound to go wrong

But she looks in my eyes
And makes me realize
And she says "Don't worry baby"
Don't worry baby
Don't worry baby
Everything will turn out alright

Don't worry baby
Don't worry baby
Don't worry baby

I guess I should've kept my mouth shut
When I started to brag about my car
But I can't back down now
I pushed the other guys too far

She makes me come alive
And makes me wanna drive
When she says "Don't worry baby"
Don't worry baby
Don't worry baby
Everything will turn out alright

Don't worry baby
Don't worry baby
Don't worry baby

She told me "Baby, when you race today
Just take along my love with you
And if you know how much I loved you
Baby nothing could go wrong with you"

Oh what she does to me
When she makes love to me
And she says "Don't worry baby"
Don't worry baby
Don't worry baby
Everything will turn out alright

Don't worry baby
Don't worry baby
Don't worry baby

Message: 27507 Posted: Fri Apr 25 09:37:24 2003 By: Whit
Subject: Live Chat

Nancy, I had a great time on live chat wed. night! Sorry I had to leave so quickly. Family, rabbits, u know, things!

red, you are a classic!

mo, thank you so much for you input. I appreciate what you do for all of us.

Have a great day everybody! Whit

Message: 27506 Posted: Fri Apr 25 09:18:17 2003 By: Whit
Subject: Live Chat

Good Friday morning everyone! Just a few notes to my fellow America friends:

Message: 27505 Posted: Fri Apr 25 08:30:12 2003 By: Mary Henderson
Subject: RE:Friday Morning Jam

Good morning, Mo & Nancy & all, I think that's a great way to start a Friday morning. I don't think that my husband would handle that along with three crazy noisy dogs that bark at anything and everyone that walks on their street. I'm surprised he hasn't hung them by their little feet to the ceiling fans and turned them on. One of them even barks at the snow that falls off the trees across the street when we have snow. LOL!!! Hope you all have a great weekend. Take care, Mary

Message: 27504 Posted: Fri Apr 25 08:24:07 2003 By: Mary Henderson
Subject: Re:America In Mexico City

Hi, Olivia, I have seen America 5 times and they have always been fantastic. I also do the same thing that you do. I buy photo key rings and put my concert stubs in them and also pictures that I have taken.I have them hanging on my wall unit by my CD's and stereo system. Saw them twice last year. Hope to get to see them in September again. They are the greatest. Hope you have a great weekend. Take care. Mary

Message: 27503 Posted: Fri Apr 25 07:41:31 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: mB live

I will post a longer review later but if you weren't there last night YOU RELLY MISSED A WONDERFUL SHOW!!!!!!!

Message: 27502 Posted: Fri Apr 25 05:56:13 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Friday Morning Jam

Hi Everyone ~~~ Hey the sun is shining here today, more spring showers on their way... ~~ I've got pieces of April wrapped up in Memories Bouguet ~~~ Pieces of April :)

Hey there Mo ~~ Hmmm what a neat way to start the day ~~ I have got this Call Report that has to be done today and I am gonna take your advice.... Here now playing on my speakers is the Beach Boys and they are singing Don't Worry Baby, now don't you worry baby.... Hopefully I will get this done..... Thanks for the Lift my friend, have a good day!

Hey there Rob ~~ Nice to hear from you again, glad you and your friend enjoyed the show... Keep on listening to this great Music! :)

Hello Olivia ~~ I definitely can relate to your excitement for sure! :)

Hi Cathy ~~ Good to hear from you! I am sure you know the ins and outs of Call Reports... they are fairly new to me tho! Ooooooh well I will Survive this! :)

Take care all and have a great day, Nutty Nancy :)

~~~~ awwwwwwww aawwwwww aaaaaaawwwwww Don't worry baby, don't worry baby, woooooo wooooooooo wooooooooooo now don't you worry baby, don't you worry oooooooooooooo ooooooooooo Sing it BB's :):):)

Message: 27501 Posted: Fri Apr 25 04:41:45 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Friday Morning Jam

We're starting out our weekend early this morning. Jamming to loud music while getting ready for the bus as usual. Instead of the usual three air force brats' music, our Friday morning jam is The Beach Boys today. Good way to start the day. Happy weekend, everyone.

Message: 27500 Posted: Thu Apr 24 19:45:49 2003 By: jimnak

Very wonderful Olivia ! AMERICA always enjoys playing in Mexico.

Message: 27499 Posted: Thu Apr 24 18:51:56 2003 By: OLIVIA FREY



Message: 27498 Posted: Thu Apr 24 17:06:01 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Re: Great Escape, This and That

Hi everyone! Valerie, have a wonderful time at the Great Escape Show. I can relate to what you mean about the husband not being too thrilled about going~~although my husband enjoys America's music he is not always anxious to go to rock concerts in general. Sometimes I have to give him a good hard kick to get him moving if I want him to go with me.~~I keep teasing him and tell him he's getting old LOL. Be sure to tell us all about it.~~I'm anxious to hear this tribute song that America has recorded!!~~~I also can't wait for Matt Beckley's cd to be released. I really enjoy the sound clips he has on his website.~~I'll have to watch to see if the Fab Four Beatles tribute band does a show nearby. I saw BeatleMania many years ago and really enjoyed it, and would love to check out the Fab Four. My favorite Beatle was always George. I miss him very much.~~~Cathy

Message: 27497 Posted: Thu Apr 24 16:49:03 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Yo, Robynski

Probably no photos, the room was VERY DARK and I would need 1000 speed film ( no digital camera yet!)

I will post a review as soon as I can, probably sometime late tomorrow ( I am moving yet another library this week and wo't be near my computer...)

Message: 27496 Posted: Thu Apr 24 15:45:55 2003 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Sandman in concert

I completely agree. Sandman is not one of my favorite America studio tunes. Yet live, it certainly is. It is the one song above all others, in my opinion, that really shows how well they can rock.

Message: 27495 Posted: Thu Apr 24 13:58:34 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Yo, Robynski

Robyn, Have a great time at the mB show tonight. I wish I could go with you. Keep your eyes open for any celebrity guests such as the proud papa. TAKE PICTURES!!! Give us a review ASAP.

Message: 27494 Posted: Thu Apr 24 13:36:24 2003 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Sandman in concert

Don't forget HERE live in concert.

"Here within the time we've spent, wondering what we meant, by living all those years ..." G. BECKLEY

Message: 27493 Posted: Thu Apr 24 13:25:35 2003 By: Robsl
Subject: Sandman in concert

Hey everyone,
Rob here. I was just talking to a friend of mine whom I had dragged to an America concert the other day. He was saying how impressed he was with their live performance. He is a huge Bruce Springsteen fan, so to be impressed with a different live act for him is rare and really is proof of how great Gerry, Dewey, and the guys are in concerts. Springsteen is one of the most acclaimed live acts of rock and roll, and I was glad to find out that a hardcore Bruce listener found an America concert as good as he did. He mentioned that he liked Sandman especially. I have always loved Sandman. I am that guy who always yells out and hollers when he can hear that they are starting to play Sandman. I love how you can never quite pick out the melody until they burst into the recognizable intro. Anyway, just figured that i wanted to share my thoughts on the song.

Message: 27492 Posted: Thu Apr 24 07:55:01 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Thanks Steve & Erin!

Hi Everyone ~~ A really crisp cool, bright morning here in PA. The sky is crystal clear blue tho ~~~ Sooo nice! :)

Thanks Steve & Erin ~~ I am sorry for being soo insistent, I guess I got anxious seeing the words newly released song. I did read the info on the venturahwy site. I just got ahead of myself. I know that Erin will let us in on the scoop as soon as she has all the details... I do appreciate all that both of you do keeping us up to date on this info. This sounds like an interesting album, some really good music artists listed there fur sure. Thanks again!

Hi there Goanna ~~ Thanks for sharing this sad news with us. This Nina Simone sure had alot of nice credits added to her Book of Life. I am sure she will be missed alot, hopefully her musical aspirations will be kept alive and going. ~~ I must admit that upon first starting to read your post, it really scared me, I thought you meant Nina from the chat folder here..... soo I was relieved to see it wasn't her you were talking about... Sorry Nina!

Ooooooh Eddy I did an bigggggg OOOOOOOOPssssss, I listened closer on the radio this morning and it isn't the Fab Four that is at this Oldies concert even, it is Beatles Mania, and they are a group of guys that go around performing as the beatles, kinda like a story of the Beatles Legacy, Jack the DJ interviewed the guy that portrays George Harrison, his name was Dave and he is from La. he said he has been doing this for the past 10 years and he enjoys his work lots, he also writes songs and does a David Bowie act as well... This still sounds kinda neat to get to see. The interview ended with the statement "The Beatles Story will Live forever" ain't that the truth! :)

Oh Yes Mo ~~ I wanted to say thanks for sharing those neat Interviews with us, that Steve posted, I really enjoyed them. Kinda different than most of the other ones.... I found that to be very refreshing! ~~ Hmmm we were quite the cast of characters at live chat last night, weren't we? LOL toooo much, it was one of those nights that took off just like that and, I sure did have fun going with the flo of things... I only hope we didn't scare Whit off too bad, being that it was his first time joining us. It woulda been interesting to see if Gerry & Dewey had joined us last night what would have happened. :) Oooooh well plenty more wed night chats, hopefully they will join us for one time. :)

Take care all and enjoy your day! Nancy :)

~~~ well I see trees of green and red roses too, I watch them bloom for me and you, and I think to myself What a Wonderful World, well I see skies of blue and I see clouds of white, and the brightness of me, I like the dark, and I think to myself what a wonderful world, the colors of the rainbow sooo pretty in the sky, they are also on the faces of people passing by, I see friends shaking hands saying how do you do, but they're really saying I Love You! and I think to myself What a Wonderful World ~~~ Nice :)

Message: 27491 Posted: Thu Apr 24 07:31:22 2003 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Great Escape Festival

Valerie: It looks like they are doing 1 early Beatles set from noon-1:00pm you can check out their website at
Nobody (except maybe The Beatles) can touch these guys, I've seen hundreds of tribute bands (The most recent one called Yesterday which we seen w/the Duluth Superior Symphony Orchestra, the DSSO were good, but the band was crap!, paid BIG BUCKS to see them too!)
Nancy: even if you don't win tickets, I'd suggest seeing them anyway, they are worth the $$$!

Message: 27490 Posted: Thu Apr 24 06:31:37 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Japan Tribute Song

Gerry and Dewey recorded a song called "Hello My Friend" which was a hit for Yuming in Japan. It will be available on an album that will be released in Japan later this year. The album will be a collection of different artists who have recorded her songs. Along with America, the album will have Oleta Adams, Peabo Bryson, Patti Austin, Stephen Bishop, Rita Coolidge, Beth Nielsen Chapman and a few more. That's all that Erin knows for now but she'll let us know when she finds out more.

Message: 27489 Posted: Thu Apr 24 03:08:21 2003 By: Goanna
Subject: R&B Soul Diva Dies

One of the greats of R&B & Soul...

we will miss you Nina......

The 'High Priestess of Soul', legendary jazz and blues singer Nina Simone, has died at her home in southern France, aged 70.

Simone was famous for her civil rights songs and interpretations of gospel, ballads and George Gershwin.

Simone's manager, Clifton Henderson, says she had been living in France off and on for the past eight years and had been ill for some time.

Mr Henderson says Simone died from natural causes.

"It is with great regret and sadness that we announce the death of the legendary jazz singer, the great Nina Simone, who died this morning at her home in Carry-le-Rouet" just outside Marseille, he said in a statement.

Simone, whose smoky, sometimes raw and sometimes sweet voice was known to millions, was born Eunice Waymon in 1933 in Tryon in the US state of North Carolina.

She was best known for her interpretation of My Baby Just Cares for Me and her version of the Screamin' Jay Hawkins tune I Put A Spell on You.

Her 1959 recording of Gershwin's I Loves You Porgy, from the opera Porgy and Bess, was the biggest hit of her career.

The singer later to become known as the "High Priestess of Soul" was born on February 21, 1933 as the sixth of seven children in a poor family, according to her website biography.

She started playing piano at age four and went on to study classical piano at the prestigious Juilliard School of Music in New York, a rare opportunity for a black woman in the 1950s.

To help her family, she worked as an accompanist and began singing while working in an Irish bar in Atlantic City.

She changed her name to Nina Simone and cut her first records in the late 1950s, going on to make a career not only as a nightclub singer but pianist, arranger and composer.

Her repertoire included the socially conscious songs Mississippi Goddam, which Simone wrote as a furious response to the killing of four black children in the bombing of a church in Birmingham in 1963, and Old Jim Crow.

Her approach to civil rights issues through music was as forthright as any other singer of the times.

The songs Plain Gold Ring, Don't Smoke In Bed and Little Girl Blue were also Simone standards.

In 1974, embittered by racism and disgusted by record companies, Nina Simone left the United States for Barbados.

Over the following years, she moved to Europe, eventually settling near Marseille.

Message: 27488 Posted: Thu Apr 24 00:20:59 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Fab Four & New Tribute Song

Nightowl Nancy here again~~

Thanks Steve, this is soo interesting hearing about this new tribute song... can't wait to hear more about it.

Hi there Eddy & Valerie ~~ The Fab Four will be here in Johnstown, PA on friday night for an Oldies Concert.... the radio station I listen to all day, has been giving out tickets all week long to go and see the Fab Four Beatles tribute band... I will try and win tickets tomorrow for sure! ~~~ Have a great time at the show Valerie, I will be anxious to hear all about it from you. :)

Hi Jimnak ~~ thanks for sharing the Concert Announcement with us! :)

Live Chat tonight was sooooooooooo much FUN FUN FUN ~~ thanks everyone, sooo nice talking with all of you. See ya next week! :)

Take care everyone and Nitey Nite ~~~ Nice dreams everyone! Nancy (bigggggg yawwwwwwwwwwn) :)

~~~ will she come to me, to keep me company, won't know Till the Sun Comes Up Again, won't know till the sun comes up again, gotta take the good with the bad, sometimes I wish I never had my say, it always goes that way... :)

Message: 27487 Posted: Wed Apr 23 20:42:20 2003 By: valynda
Subject: Great Escape

Thanks guys! And Eddy, thanks for your info on The Fab Four. Now I will definitely get their early enough to see them too! --Valerie

Message: 27486 Posted: Wed Apr 23 19:35:18 2003 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Great Escape Festival

I think your family will enjoy your day. AMERICA is scheduled as the headliner at 5pm, under California sunshine, you can be sure AMERICA will put on their usual fantastic show. Just head down the famous 405 freeway w/very ample parking in the great outdoors. GERRY & DEWEY gearing up for a great show, as we speak.

Message: 27485 Posted: Wed Apr 23 19:05:33 2003 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Great Escape Festival

Including America, check out The Fab Four, their THE BEST Beatles tribute band I've ever seen in my life!!
(wish I was going!)

Message: 27484 Posted: Wed Apr 23 17:33:41 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Great Escape Festival

You're welcome, Valerie. You'll have to let us know how it goes.

Message: 27483 Posted: Wed Apr 23 17:30:39 2003 By: valynda
Subject: Great Escape Festival

Hi Steve L. and JimNak, I want to thank you for posting that announcement of the Irvine Cal. concert this Saturday. I had thought about going, but put the idea out of my mind. But seeing the announcement totally motivated me to make the plans to attend. It is about a 5-6 hour drive from my home in Central Coast Calif. area. I've purchased the tickets and am now trying to get hotel/motel reservations. The whole family is going, husband is not too thrilled. But what else is new?? Ha-Ha!! Thanks!--Valerie

Message: 27482 Posted: Wed Apr 23 15:29:58 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: mB Live & Jayhawks Rainy Day Music

Nancy, I'll see what I can find out about the tribute song.

Message: 27481 Posted: Wed Apr 23 14:50:20 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: mB Live

oops, I forgot to list his website. it's You can check out samples from his current work there. Great stuff!

Message: 27480 Posted: Wed Apr 23 12:16:28 2003 By: jeff brink
Subject: Re: mB Live

Thank you.

Message: 27479 Posted: Wed Apr 23 12:13:21 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: mB Live & Jayhawks Rainy Day Music

Hi there Everyone ~~~

Thanks Robyn for the tease, I sure would love to get to see Matt's live show, I bet it is good. I am looking forward to his CD being released tho. Enjoy the show and let us know all about it.

Hey Matt ~~ sing extra loud soooo I can hear you in the night sky Okay ~~ Thanks a bunch! :)

Hi ther JeffB ~~ Matt's new CD hasn't been released yet, hopefully it will be soon, and I am hoping it is available here on the net or through his site, by the sounds of the clips I know I am gonna like the outcome of it... Matt sure has been putting his all into it. (Gerry)Dad has to be soooo proud of him for sure! ~~ Hmmm when I hear it is released I will let you know ok? take care JeffB

Well DanC & KevinS & Jason ~~~ I have checked out a few of the Jayhawks songs... I was impatient about finding it at the store and I searched on Kazaa and sure enough I found "All the Right Reasons" a demo mp3, and Save it for a Rainy Day demo as well, and I think it is the Fool Parade, it is a demo mp3 as well.... I can see where you get the earlier 60's to 70's sound in this DanC... I really am liking this All the Right Reasons it is nice for sure.... in the Save it for a Rainy Day they say my nieces name Melina... soo that kinda catches my attention ... Nice :) I have found a couple more of them but they are on que soo I will eventually get them, till I find this at the store to buy... I noticed too that they covered alot of older songs... on their other album, unless the titles are just similar.

Ooooooh SteveL ~~ I am kinda curious about the news caption on the venturahwy site... something about Gerry & Dewey doing a song, in tribute to a Young Japaneese singer... along with other music artists.... Can you tell us more about this now, is it a brand new song they wrote just for her? how will we get to hear it? is it going to be released on an album with the rest of these artists songs? I know I am asking too many questions... I am just curious here what this means... Anything you can let us in on is appreciated, thanks soo much.

Hey all ~~ It is Wed. night, time for live chat... hope to see you there... hmmm took my daughter to dance class last night just to turn around and come back home, there wasn't any power in the dance studio, so she has lessons tonight....

Gotta get now, see ya later, Nancy :) Enjoy the rest of your day! :)

~~~How its gonna be the day I'm free ~~ Once I settle like the dust upon the table, but then you came along, you helped me write this song, I don't know what day it is, I can't recall the seasons, I don't remember how we got this farrrr, all I know is I'm loving you for All the Right Reasons, my sky will always be my morning starrrrrrr.... Like a tired bird flying high across the ocean, I was outside looking in, you made me live again, from the mountains to the prairies, little babies, figures filled their heads, visions made of red, I don't know what day it is, I can't recall the seasons, I don't know how we made it this far, all I know is I'm Loving YOU for all the right reasons, MY SKY will always be my morning star~~~ Sing it Jayhawks :) :) :)

Message: 27478 Posted: Wed Apr 23 11:59:51 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: mB Live

You should be able to buy it from Matt's website real soon!

Message: 27477 Posted: Wed Apr 23 10:37:20 2003 By: jeff brink
Subject: Re: mB Live

How does one go about buying a M. Beckley CD?


Message: 27476 Posted: Wed Apr 23 10:22:59 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: OKC concert

Whit, the VH web site hasn't been updated yet. My concert list is correct. On August 23 the guys will be playing at the Lake Robbins Ballroom in Perry, IA.

Message: 27475 Posted: Wed Apr 23 09:10:47 2003 By: Whit
Subject: OKC concert

Steve L,
Some confusion on my part. Your post shows AMERICA in OKC August 30 and the VH website show schedule has August 23? Whatup?

Message: 27474 Posted: Wed Apr 23 08:48:56 2003 By: Whit
Subject: Re: Six Feet Under

Hi Kim
Yes we are planning to go to OKC if I can get off early enough on that Saturday. Sounds like you may have the perfect solution to go. Meet your kin folks in OKC and spend the time at Frontier City or there is a lot of museums like Will Rogers, Cowboy Hall of Fame, OKC Zoo, and lots of golf courses(if your into that sort of thing). I bet ya'll could find plenty of things to do. Most important would be the concert of course! Don't forget it is an open-air amphitheater, so bring an umbrellla for the heat or the rain. As red pointed out, a tornado comes through eveyday! HA-HA!!!
See Ya, Whit

Message: 27473 Posted: Wed Apr 23 07:54:25 2003 By: Whit
Subject: Re: Cool Whit & Nancio

red, u r right about it being hot in august! I will be seeing the guys in L.A. on the 16th and in OKC the 30th. Looking forward to both shows. Whit

Message: 27472 Posted: Wed Apr 23 07:39:19 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: mB Live

If you are in the Los Angeles area, don't miss your chance to see Matt Beckley live. He's playing at Ghengis Cohen. Arrive early, have a bite to eat, the food is pretty good . Matt is scheduled for 10:15. Matt's doing a full set this time, so it should be a lot of fun. Hope to see you there!

Message: 27471 Posted: Wed Apr 23 07:30:52 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Great Escape Festival

Click here to see the concert announcement for the Great Escape Festival concert. The guys will be playing there this Saturday. Thanks to JimNak for sharing it with us.

Message: 27470 Posted: Tue Apr 22 20:45:41 2003 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Favorite Form of Procrastination

Hat Trick: Submarine Ladies, Green Monkey
Hideaway: Letter
Harbor: Monster, SGT.Darkness
Silent Letter: High In The City, All My Life
Perspective: can't think of any....
HourGlass: Garden Of peace......The whole album...
Van Go Gan: Emma, VGG, Playing God, Kiss Of Life, Now Sue
Like A Brother: IN THE DARK, Watching The Time

Message: 27469 Posted: Tue Apr 22 18:22:00 2003 By: Bones
Subject: Re: New Concert Dates

Thanks Steve & Mo.

Message: 27468 Posted: Tue Apr 22 14:05:56 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Six Feet Under

Me Again ~~

Thanks Kim & Sergio for the info... I don't get HBO soo I guess I won't get to check this show out. ~~~ Nice that there is a show coming close to you Kim, I hope all will work out with your Labor Day plans with the family soo you can take this in somehow. I am hoping to make it to the Mohegan Sun show close to the 4th of July, that is the very same weekend as my family reunion.... soo I am hoping my sister will take my kids there with her, soo Hubby and I can take off for the weekend.

Oooh Red ~~ You know I am hoping to go to see the Eagles and Dan Fogelberg and Jackson Browne too..... I need to win the powerball for sure! Are you feeling LUCKY ~~ How about you and me split the winning ticket???? :)

Gotta get back to my work and tonight is my daughters dance class.
See ya later, Nancy :)

~~~ Bring me a higher love, bring me a higher love ~~~ oooh bring me a higher love, woowwowoowowowoowoooo sing it Steve Winwood :)

Message: 27467 Posted: Tue Apr 22 11:00:56 2003 By: kimcabrina
Subject: Six Feet Under

Original Six Feet Under episodes premier on HBO on Sunday nights. HWNN is not the opening song, it was being sung by a bunch of hippie, cult members as they worked on "hand mops" that they sell. As I said before this show has always been quirky, but seems to be moving to the weird side.
It is definately an adults only show.

Whit - Are you going to try to make the new OKC show. I see it is over Labor day weekend and that might make it hard for me to get up there as we usually have relatives in from Wichita, Kansas or we head there. Hey - maybe we can spend the weekend in OKC instead! Is there anything else to do in OKC? I have a feeling this is going to be a real hard sell to the relatives as Frontier City is about 1/3 of the size of Six Flags Over Texas (which we live less then 10 miles from)!

Message: 27466 Posted: Tue Apr 22 10:01:42 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Favorite Form of Procrastination & Catch Up


Always so nice to read your posts! "Six Feet Under" is on HBO, however, I just caught the beginning by chance and since I've never seen it before, I don't know if this is part of the show intro. Perhaps, someone else has the answer.

Here is my list:
Hat Trick- Muskrat Love, Windwave, Rainbow Song and Hat Trick
Hideaway- "Today's the Day" I'd like to hear Dewey or Gerry cover my favorite song by Dan. Amber Cascades
Harbor-Sarah, God of the Sun, These Brown Eyes, Don't Cry Baby, Are You there
Silent Letter- All Around, All My Life
Perspective-Can't Fall Asleep to a Lullabye, Cinderella, We got all night
Hourglass-Young Moon, Hope, Garden of Peace

Hasta luego,


Message: 27465 Posted: Tue Apr 22 09:11:27 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Cool Whit & Nancio

Hey Whit, they are playing OKC after all. August 30 should be even hotter than the date they had before. Wonder if the tornado season is over by Aug 30? I think they have 1 a day that passes thru OKC. Oh well, just keep ur head down!

Yes, Nancio there is an Iowa date there! Too bad it has to be in August. Don't know if the money will hold out after seeing EAGLES & JACKSON BROWNE to be able to go. But, never say never!!!!!!!

Carry on, troops...........

Message: 27464 Posted: Tue Apr 22 07:41:02 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Favorite Form of Procrastination & Catch Up

Hi there everyone :) ~~ It feels like it has been FOREVER since I posted and I am here suffering from a bad case of chat folder withdrawel shakes ~~ LOL! My fingers are fumbling trying to keep up with all the little messages my insides are sending them at one time... Ooooooh nooo look out I am heading for that 503 Service Unavailable Messages to hit my brain wave circuits ~~ LOL!!! I must be cracking up for sure! I don't know just where to start ~~~ Okay girl get ahold of yourself and get on with this post.... First of all, we had an enjoyable Easter weekend, and soooo much good food, I will not be able to eat for 2 weeks. :)

Hmmm 2nd of all ~~ Great Procrastination Question Mo, here is my list of faves..... I couldn't pick just 1 or 2, no not me, I had trouble stopping at the ones I did pick... sooo here is my list:

Hat Trick ~~ Hat Trick, Submarine Ladies, Rainbow Song, Muskrat Love,& Molten Love.

Hearts ~~ Bell Tree, Midnight, Seasons, The Story of a Teenager, Old Virginia, & Tomorrow.

Hideaway ~~ Letter, Lovely Night, Who Loves You, Amber Cascades, Watership Down, Hideaway Part 1 & 2.

Harbor ~~ God of the Sun, Sarah, These Brown Eyes, Sergeant Darkness, Are You There, & Don't Cry Baby hmmm Jet Boy Blue is okay too.

Perspective ~~ Hey rc, I too like this album alot... Can't Fall Asleep to a Lullabye, Special Girl, 5th Ave., It's Like You Never Left at All, Stereo, Cinderella, Unconditional Love, We Got All Night ;) .

Silent Letter ~~ 1960, All Around, Tall Treasures, And Forever, No Fortune, Foolin, One Morning, ahhhh heck all of them, my least fave on this is High in the City...

Hourglass ~~ YOUNG MOON for sure, Garden of Peace ~ YES YES, Hope, Close to the Wind, Sleepertrain, Call of the Wild, Greenhouse, Whole Wide World, Ports of Call ~~~ I just love this whole album, I cried the first time I heard it and was soooo glad that I found it... Thanks to my special friend from Germany ;)

Hmmmm soo there is my kinda list.... that is what I love about my AMERICA music.... I love all of their songs.... not many I don't like. :)

Hey Red ~~~ did you notice there is a show added in Perry,IOWA? Hey that is worth you and the Mrs. making a trip back to your old stomping grounds, isn't it? :) Those wet tshirt sayings are too much, some really good ones there, along with some that I definitely can relate too... you know which one I mean don't you? ;)

Hi Gen ~~ Neat you putting the lyrics to My Sweet Lord ~~ I love that song, haven't heard it for such a long lonnnnnnnnnng time. Hmmmmm ~ nice thought both of them up above singing and having the time of their lives... Neil Finn's song is on here ~~~ Ooooh there is a light that never goes out ~~~~ for sure, there is a light that never goes out.... :)

Hey there Bones ~~ Where in the world have you been? I sure hope you will go to this Oyster Festival show for your birthday. Maybe I should join you there and celebrate my birthday a few days early. Hmmm ~~ How is Pete's ballroom dancing lessons coming along... Orleans song Dance with Me just started here now... boy these songs are falling right in line with my posting today... I could type up a storm of lyrics ~~~ let it lift you off the ground, starry eyes and love is all around, I can take you where you want to goooo, oooooooh ooooh, dance with me, I want to be your partner, can't you see the music is just starting, and I am calling, Dance with Me.... great song ~~ for sure :)

YES YES YES DanC ~~ I can hear you loud and clear, I will check out this Jayhawks ~~ Rainy Day Music CD, as soon as I get to the store and find it.... Hmmm did you get my long email I sent to you on friday? Just wondering???? :)

Hi Kim & Sergio & JohnL ~~ I will be watching out for Fleetwood Mac, I hope David Letterman has them on.... Hmmmm ~~~ My inquiring mind is curious about this Six Feet Under show... just what channel and when does it come on.... is HWNN always on the opening of it?.... I too want to see the movie Holes, I am hoping it comes to our drive in theater near here soon. The kids enjoy going to the drive in, and so do I.... kinda different going to the drive-in nowadays tho.... WOW did I stir up some memories there..... Breads song I'd Like to Make it With You is playing here now.... I am on a roll with these songs today for sure.... too much... oh and by the way did you get the Easter card I sent to you and your family, it was probably in your junk mail folder. Just a wondering!

Well I better close this for now, and get my work done! I am feeling a little better now.... Have a great day, keep the songs a playing, oh how they make the days go by sooo nice! Nancy :)

~~~~ Well I can hear somebody knocking on my bedroom door ~~~ I find it rather shocking, its my best friends girl, imagine my surprise, there's a hungry look in her eyeeeees, Seeeee How the Love Goes, anybody here know how the love goes, she said I'm feeling kinda lonely and only You will do, would you like to get to know me, like I wanna know you, no telling what a man will do ~~ Face to Face with a woman like youuuuu, See How The Love Goes, anybody here know how the love goes..... Ooooooh Yeah seeee how the love goes ~~ Sing it Dewey & Gerry :) :) :)

Message: 27463 Posted: Tue Apr 22 06:39:45 2003 By: hekawi25
Subject: Re: Favorite Form of Procrastination

Hat Trick: She's Gonna Let You Down
Hideaway: Amber Cascades
Harbor: God Of The Sun
Perspective: Special Girl
Hourglass: Hope

Message: 27462 Posted: Mon Apr 21 21:09:56 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Bones' Big Day

Bonesy--good to see you. Welcome back.
Go to:

"Join us for the 26th. Annual Oyster Festival
September 5, 6 & 7, 2003
Veterans' Park
Seaview Ave.
East Norwalk, CT"

So, happy birthday to you.

Message: 27461 Posted: Mon Apr 21 19:57:57 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: New Concert Dates

Bones, I don't know if the Oyster Festival is in CT or not. I just posted what Erin sent to me. I'll do some checking and see what I can find out, or if you find out anything be sure to post it here. If there is a Norwalk Oyster Festival in CT, then that's probably it.

Message: 27460 Posted: Mon Apr 21 19:14:25 2003 By: Bones
Subject: Re: New Concert Dates

Steve, is that the Norwalk Oyster Festival in Conneticut? If it is, what a nice Birthday present for me.

Message: 27459 Posted: Mon Apr 21 19:08:01 2003 By: Bones
Subject: Re: VH.COM Back Up

Perhaps trying water-saving shower heads, low-flow toilets, instant hot water devices, low-flow sink faucets and only do full loads with the washing machine and dishwasher. If that doesn't work, disconnect the water meter.
Just trying to keep the well from running dry.

Message: 27458 Posted: Mon Apr 21 18:56:29 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: New Concert Dates

8/23/03 Perry, IA / Lake Robbins Ballroom
8/30/03 Oklahoma City, OK / Six Flags Frontier City
9/6/03 East Norwalk / Norwalk Oyster Festival
10/7/03 Cumming, GA / Cumming Country Fair & Festival
10/9/03 Alexandria, VA / The Birchmere
10/12/03 Rutland, VT / Paramount Theatre

Message: 27457 Posted: Mon Apr 21 18:27:37 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: VH.COM Back Up

Sounds to me like the America well is a more popular watering hole than anyone thought. They either need a new, bigger pipe or better yet a new plumber.

Message: 27456 Posted: Mon Apr 21 18:00:21 2003 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: Moser's List

Muscrat Love
Mirror To Mirror
Young Moon
All Around
Can't Fall Asleep To A Lullabye

Message: 27455 Posted: Mon Apr 21 17:24:31 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: VH.COM Back Up

OK, here it is in TRUE layman terms. Think of a web site as a well of water. Each one of you connects to that well through pipes (i.e., the Internet). The ISP has the master pipe that controls the amount of water that can flow out of the well. People who pay lots of money get BIG pipes so that lots of water can flow out. People who pay a small amount of money get small pipes. There are lots of different pipe sizes. If a lot of people try to get water from the same well, the pipe cannot supply enough water unless the pipe is big enough. One option is to shut down the well altogether and then start it up later when fewer people are trying to get water. That's basically what happened on Thursday. However, the automatic startup system that was supposed to allow the water to flow again didn't work. It had to be turned on manually.

Professor Lowry (instructor of Internet 101 - LOL)

Message: 27454 Posted: Mon Apr 21 16:34:39 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: VH.COM Back Up

Sounds like doublespeak for "toro poopoo".

Thanks for the update Steve!

Message: 27453 Posted: Mon Apr 21 15:29:43 2003 By: Lass
Subject: Re: Favorite Form of Procrastination

Hat Trick: Molten Love and Green Monkey
Hideaway: Watership Down and Letter
Harbor: Political Poachers, Sarah, Are You There and Monster
Perspective: Can't Fall Asleep To A Lullaby and Lady With a Bluebird
Silent Letter: All Around, Tall Treasures (heck just add the whole of my favs)
Hourglass: Hope and Greenhouse

Message: 27452 Posted: Mon Apr 21 14:28:41 2003 By: rc
Subject: Re: Favorite Form of Procrastination

Hat Trick.. Rainbow Song, Windwave(even though removed from list)
Hideaway.. Letter, Amber Cascades
Harbor... Sargent Darkness, Politcal Poachers, Are You There,
Perspective...Stereo, Lady with a bluebird, *any of the songs..I think I am one of the few who really likes this album lol
Silent Letter...One Morning, High in the City, (hard to pick one or two off this one as well..
Hourglass... geez..Pick one or Close To The Wind, Sleeper Train

Message: 27451 Posted: Mon Apr 21 13:24:07 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: VH.COM Back Up

Many ISP's have a maximum amount of traffic that they allow a web site to serve up (depending on the level of service that has been purchased). If the maximum is exceeded it stops vending pages from the web site. However, it usually resumes vending pages after a certain amount of time has passed. My speculation is that VH.COM exceeded it's limit on Thursday so access was no longer allowed. It obviously didn't get turned on again automatically, because I had to contact McCartney Media and then they had to contact the ISP to get it going again.

Message: 27450 Posted: Mon Apr 21 13:12:45 2003 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Favorite Form of Procrastination

Hat Trick - Green Monkey, Hat Trick
Hideaway - Amber Cascades, Today's The Day
Harbor - Sergeant Darkness, Sarah
Silent Letter - I agree - the entire album - failing that, One Morning, High in the City
Perspective - Stereo
Hourglass - Young Moon, Mirror to Mirror, Garden of Peace

Message: 27449 Posted: Mon Apr 21 12:31:29 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Found on front of Wet T-Shirts

Found on the front of T-Shirts
> >
> > 1) The sex was so good that even the neighbors had a cigarette.
> >
> > 2) I don't suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it.
> >
> > 3) I Work Hard Because Millions On Welfare Depend on Me!
> >
> > 4) Some people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them.
> >
> > 5) I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.
> >
> > 6) Don't take life too seriously; you won't get out alive.
> >
> > 7) You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.
> >
> > 8) Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.
> >
> > 9) Earth.... is the insane asylum for the universe.
> >
> > 10) I'm not a complete idiot; some parts are missing.
> >
> > 12) Out of my mind. Back in five minutes.
> >
> > 13) I don't have to be dead to donate my organ.
> >
> > 14) I want to die in my sleep, like my grandfather... not screaming
> > and yelling like the passengers in his car.
> >
> > 15) God must love stupid people; He made so many of them.
> >
> > 16) The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
> >
> > 17) It IS as BAD as you think and they ARE out to get you.
> >
> > 18) I took an IQ test and the results were negative.
> >
> > 19) Consciousness: That annoying time between naps.
> >
> > 20) Ever stop to think and forget to start again?
> >
> > 21) Beer ~ The Reason I Get Up Each Afternoon!
> >
> > 22) I Must Be a Proctologist Because I Work With Assholes s!
> >
> > 23) "That's It! I'm Calling Nana!" (seen on an 8- year old)
> >
> > 24) "Wrinkled.... Was Not One of the Things I Wanted to Be When I
> > Grew Up"
> >
> > 25) "Procrastinate..... Now"
> >
> > 26) "Rehab..... Is for Quitters"
> >
> > 27) "My Dog.... Can Lick Anyone"
> >
> > 28) "I Have a Degree in Liberal Arts - Do You Want Fries With
> >
> > 29) "Party - My Crib - Two A.M." (On a baby-size shirt)
> >
> > 30) "Finally 21, and Legally Able to do Everything I've been doing
> > since I was 15"
> >
> > 31) "Arkansas: One Million People and 15 last names"
> >
> > 32) "FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION. It comes bundled with the software."
> >
> >
> > 34) "A hangover is the wrath of grapes"
> >
> > 35) "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a cash advance"
> >
> > 36) "STUPIDITY IS NOT A HANDICAP. Park elsewhere!"
> >
> > 37) "DISCOURAGE INBREEDING - Ban Country Music"
> >
> > 38) "They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken"
> >
> > 39) "He who dies with the most toys is nonetheless dead"
> >
> > 40) "Time is fun when you're having flies"...Kermit the Frog
> >
> > 41) "POLICE STATION TOILET STOLEN .... Cops have nothing to go on."
> >
> > 42) "FOR SALE - Iraqi rifle. Never fired. Dropped once."
> >
> >
> > 44) "HAM AND EGGS - A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime
> > commitment for a pig."
> >
> > 45) "WELCOME TO KENTUCKY - Set your watch back 20 years."
> >
> > 46) "The trouble with life is there's no background music."
> >
> > 47) "The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson."
> >
> > 48) "MOP AND GLOW - The Floor Wax used by Three Mile Island cleanup
> > team."
> >
> > 49) "NyQuil - The stuffy, sneezy, why-the-heck-is-the-room
> > spinning-medicine."
> >
> > 50) "My husband and I divorced over religious differences. He
> > thought he was God and I didn't.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Message: 27448 Posted: Mon Apr 21 11:58:04 2003 By: Duffy
Subject: Favorite Form of Procrastination

Hat Trick ~ Muskrat Love
Hideaway ~ Amber Cascades & Who Loves You
Harbor ~ These Brown Eyes & Sarah
Silent Letter ~ All Around & High in the City
Perspective ~ Unconditional Love & Lady with a Bluebird
Hourglass ~ Call of the Wild & Young Moon

Message: 27447 Posted: Mon Apr 21 10:58:42 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: VH.COM Back Up

Steve, in layman's terms, what exactly does <<"There was a large spike of traffic that the server company did not anticipate and the management of America did not inform us of this spike. But all is well now.">> mean? If you don't know for sure, could you please speculate? Thanks.

Message: 27446 Posted: Mon Apr 21 10:37:12 2003 By: kimcabrina
Subject: VH Board Back Up

FYI - Just checked the vh page and is back up.

Sergio - I too saw Six Feet Under opening w/ "Horse With No Name". I have always really liked this show but it has been moving from quirky and off beat to getting really weird.

Hope everyone had a great Easter weekend!


Message: 27445 Posted: Mon Apr 21 10:34:59 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VH.COM Back Up

I contacted McCartney Media today asking them why was down and they said: "There was a large spike of traffic that the server company did not anticipate and the management of America did not inform us of this spike. But all is well now." So, everyone should be able to access VH.COM once again.

Message: 27444 Posted: Mon Apr 21 09:11:35 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Favorite Form of Procrastination

Hat Trick - Hat Trick, Rainbow Song, Green Monkey
Hideaway - nothing
Harbor - nothing
Silent Letter - 1960
Hourglass - Young Moon, Greenhouse, Mirror to Mirror, Sleeper Train

Feed the babies
Who don't have enough to eat
Shoe the children
With no shoes on their feet
House the people
Livin' in the street
Oh, oh, there's a solution

I want to fly like an eagle
To the sea
Fly like an eagle
Let my spirit carry me
I want to fly like an eagle
Till I'm free
Fly through the revolution

Message: 27443 Posted: Mon Apr 21 09:03:05 2003 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Favorite Form of Procrastination

Sergeant Darkness, Ports-Of-Call, Hope, Garden of Peace, the entire Silent Letter album, Monster, Sarah...more later.

Erin :o)

Message: 27442 Posted: Mon Apr 21 08:42:18 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Favorite Form of Procrastination

One of my favorite forms of procrastination--and believe me, I have many--is looking at this site. I think some of you may share this habit. So, while I was doing that this morning, I thought of a new (new to me at least) question for y'ans guys. As of the last published playlist (from the Keswick Theatre), the following albums are not represented in the live show: Hat Trick, Hideaway, Harbor, Silent Letter, Perspective, and Hourglass. Just for fun, please pick one or two songs from each of these albums that you would like to see added to the playlist and post them here. I'm still making my picks. I'll let you know.

Message: 27441 Posted: Sun Apr 20 19:19:41 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: One more thing...

Well folks sorry to say there was no America on the Bob Hope 100th birthday retrospective, it was a great and moving tribute show anyway. The only rock group clip in the whole show was that of "The Village People"... Amazingly, right after the show ended, I switched to HBO to see what was on and "Six Feet Under" (a show I have never watched before) was beginning and "low and behold" the cast was singing "A Horse with No Name". A strange coincidence given that I had wished to see our group today and made mention of "that" song all in the same post earlier today with regards to the movie "Holes"...Hmm, Six feet under...Did I just briefly enter a hole in Twilight Zone? Or maybe I've had too many "Peeps" today...

Happy Monday everyone!


Message: 27440 Posted: Sun Apr 20 16:16:25 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: VH.COM Unavailable?

Updating the look? I truly hope so. That site does not get the loving attention it needs, unlike this one which is always more up to date, with the latest information. Again kudos to Steve for the work he puts into this keeping us current!

Message: 27439 Posted: Sun Apr 20 11:44:00 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Classic Rock Music Choice on Cable

While I'm doing the Easter cooking here today, I've tuned into the Classic Rock channel on my Music Choice on cable tv. I just had the service added recently on a trial basis along with digital cable..."only $5.00 more per month...yada, yada, yada...." Anyway, I haven't listened to it much b/c I always have my CD's on instead. Just for a change of pace today, I thought I would try it out. In less than one hour of listening this is what has been on: Springsteen, The Dead, Fleetwood Mac's Rhiannon, The Moody Blues, Dire Straits' Money for Nothin', and three cute young guys with long hair sitting in front of three Indian braves (can't recall the name of the band)'s A Horse With No Name. All of these artists or songs have been mentioned on the folder in the last 4 to 6 weeks. Very cool. What does this mean? A) The music programmer for this classic rock cable channel has similarly good taste? Perhaps. B) Us America (oh that's the name of that band!!) fans share a predictable, demographically-average taste in music? Perhaps. Geez, I hope that's not it. That's an easy and quick way to feel really old...being predictable and average. No, these are not adjectives I aspire to.

Perhaps I'm overthinking this. Perhaps I should just shut up and enjoy the tunes.

Excuse me while I go check the ham....

Message: 27438 Posted: Sun Apr 20 10:38:46 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re : 'Alleluia' ( Happy Easter)

My sweet lord (hallelujah)
Hm, my lord (hallelujah)
My sweet lord (hallelujah)
(if you want a karaoke version :-) you can go to: )

Just thinking of the GREAT conversations He must have with George & John up there... BTW, maybe this is one song "with a special shuffle" Gerry could have mentioned in his interview, too. But it's already neat he should have made a reference to Tears For Fear ( as you know I'm just nuts about Roland Orzabal's voice !). To Each His Own.....

Message: 27437 Posted: Sun Apr 20 09:10:28 2003 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Two things!

Holes - a great book. Haven't seen the movie yet but when it comes here (we are a one-cinema town so things sometimes take a while to get here) I am taking my class to see it. The movie received excellent reviews here.

Message: 27436 Posted: Sun Apr 20 06:52:55 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Two things!

Good morning everyone on this fine Easter Sunday. I am getting ready to go to church, but I wanted to post two things before going off~

First, tonight is the Bob Hope 100th birthday special on NBC, and I couldn't help but think that they may show a clip of our favorite band, a long shot for sure. However,they appeared on one of his specials back in the 70's, when Sister Golden Hair was #1, together with other greats like John Wayne. I will have my vcr on just in case...

Secondly, really nothing to do with America, except for the desert setting, and as a big America fan I could almost hear "A Horse With No Name" at every turn, and that is the movie "Holes". An excellent new movie from the Disney Studios with Sigourney Weaver, Henry Winkler, Eartha Kitt, John Voight and an excellent cast of young actors. I saw it yesterday and just had to recommend it. It is a movie the whole family can see without being sacharine or corny.

Everyone have a great Easter!


Message: 27435 Posted: Sun Apr 20 06:27:04 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Alleluia

I don't usually mix my church and state but I guess it wouldn't hurt on one day a year.

Christ the Lord is risen today, Alleluia.

Happy Easter to all of you.

Message: 27434 Posted: Sat Apr 19 20:27:21 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: "New Tunes" and An "Interesting" Fact

Having just finished reading the two newspaper interviews, I'm very surprised that no one here has mentioned what Dewey said regarding Andrew Gold and the possibility of he (Dew) and Ger recording several new songs later this year! That's wonderful news.

Also, I took particular notice that Dew said he hadn't seen Dan in over 20 years and that it's not likely that they'd ever perform onstage together again. Interesting fact: Had D&G been able to attend Ian Samwell's services, the former trio would have been together again! Well, at least in each others presence.

Message: 27433 Posted: Sat Apr 19 15:42:53 2003 By: Lass
Subject: Re: VH.COM Unavailable?

503 Service Unavailable usually means the server is unable to handle the request due to a temporary overloading (which I highly doubt) or maintenance of the server (which seems more likely). The implication is that this is a temporary condition. Hopefully the site is getting a complete overhaul.

Message: 27432 Posted: Sat Apr 19 13:19:08 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Live Chat

I think that the guys joining us would be a hoot, but I completly understand their reasons ( hey maybe they've heard from mB how raucous we can get!)
In any cae, the live chat is a whole lot of fun and I am inviting EVERYONE to join in!

Message: 27431 Posted: Sat Apr 19 12:28:02 2003 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Jayhawks...Rainy Day Music

rc, thanks very much.

Message: 27430 Posted: Sat Apr 19 11:27:15 2003 By: rc
Subject: Re: VH.COM Unavailable?

At the time of this posting getting the same message from ventura highway site.. Maybe someone forgot to pay the bill lol..

Message: 27429 Posted: Sat Apr 19 11:25:18 2003 By: rc
Subject: Re: Jayhawks...Rainy Day Music

Hi John...
Kevin S. posted the info about the cd.. It is titled Rainy Day Music..

Message: 27428 Posted: Sat Apr 19 11:17:50 2003 By: John Lussier
Subject: Jayhawks

Recently, someone recommended a Jayhawks' cd. I can't remember what the title was and I'd like to try 'em out. (tried to do a search through the site to find the reference but I obviously missed it). Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks
j - from the rainy west coast (or perhaps "wet coast")

Message: 27427 Posted: Sat Apr 19 10:59:19 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Motion Carried

Though I'm not really concerned by the live chat because of the time difference between our two continents, I hope the guys will accept the invitation, Moser. It could be a lot of fun ! It's not becoz you've never done something that you'll never do it, is it?

As for me, I'd love it if they could maintain a journal section in their web pages or on this very site (for fans) - the sort they had started to do with the 'from the moving train' page on - to give us their 'on the road' impressions or views & reactions on various topics, from time to time( just as they do for interviews). The recent example of this Poco official web site you mentioned Steve, made it still more obvious that many artists feel the need to do it, but of course they DON'T have our guys' concert schedule! That probably makes a difference...

Message: 27426 Posted: Sat Apr 19 10:25:00 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Articles

Thanks Moser for sharing the articles ( & thanks Mr L. for posting them! ) I've just finished reading them and as you may suppose Gerry & Dewey's words are answering some of my questions/preoccupations, and of course I appreciate it greatly. Thanks again.

Message: 27425 Posted: Sat Apr 19 08:17:19 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Motion Carried

You're right, Johnny. Neither Dan, Dewey, or Gerry have ever been present. Dan does not have Internet access although his brother, Tom, keeps telling him he needs to get with current technology - LOL. Dewey and Gerry do have access but prefer to keep to themselves. That's their decision and I respect that.

Message: 27424 Posted: Sat Apr 19 08:14:52 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Motion Carried (or "a rose by any other name...")

I always thought it was "the ayes have it" rather than the "I's" (or even the "eyes", LOL). Happy Easter everyone!

Message: 27423 Posted: Sat Apr 19 08:14:46 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Motion Carried

There's been some past discussion on the live chat as to whether Dan, Dewey, or Gerry have ever been present. I remember after someone reported that Dan P was present one night, his brother Tom sent a message to SteveL saying that Dan has never been. I assume that nothing has changed in this regard. Whether Dew or Ger has ever been present, well, that's highly debatable I suppose. :0)

Message: 27422 Posted: Sat Apr 19 07:27:11 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Motion Carried

Well, obviously, the I's have it. Motion carried. Everyone who answered is in favor of inviting Gerry and Dewey to join us in live chat--apparently preferably as their lovely selves and not under an alias. One tidbit of helpful info, if you do decide to join us we get started between 10:00 and 10:30 p.m. Eastern time. That's still pretty early for you west coasters. What a lovely way to spend a Wednesday evening. Stop in, we'd be eternally grateful, shocked, but grateful.

Message: 27421 Posted: Sat Apr 19 07:20:27 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: VH.COM Unavailable?

Same here, Steve.

Message: 27420 Posted: Sat Apr 19 06:57:49 2003 By: Mary Henderson
Subject: RE:VH.Com Unavailable

Hi, Steve & jimnak, I've also been trying for the past couple of days and I get the same thing. Hope you and yours have a Happy Easter. Mary

Message: 27419 Posted: Sat Apr 19 06:45:46 2003 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: VH.COM Unavailable?

Got the same Steve.

Message: 27418 Posted: Sat Apr 19 06:36:37 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VH.COM Unavailable?

Has anyone besides me noticed that the web site hasn't been available for the past couple of days? When I try to access the VH.COM web site or the message board I get the following error:

503 Service Unavailable
The requested URL Bandwidth is temporarily unavailable.

Maybe they're doing some updates over the Easter weekend. I really don't know but I was wondering...

Message: 27417 Posted: Sat Apr 19 06:03:48 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Good, Happy Easter, Buona Pasqua


Happy Easter to you as well! I couldn't help but notice how similar the Spanish "Good and Happy Easter" is to the Italian~
"Buenas y felices Pascuas a todos"-"Buona Felice Pascqua a tutti"
A beautiful sentiment in any language,

Message: 27416 Posted: Sat Apr 19 05:41:25 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Withdrawel & Fleetwood Mac on the Today Show!


Sorry, but I did not tape the Fleetwood Mac concert on the Today show, It all happened suddenly by chance and did not think to tape it. They did "Peacekeeper" as well. This was definitely the kick-off for some kind of reunion tour, so I would expect them to surface on a few other shows. You may want to check your TV listings for the next couple of weeks. Take care,

Message: 27415 Posted: Sat Apr 19 04:47:14 2003 By: bruno
Subject: Good, Happy Easter, Buona Pasqua

Good Happy Easter
Buona Felice Pasqua a tutti

Message: 27414 Posted: Sat Apr 19 00:07:48 2003 By: KevinS.
Subject: You're welcome, Dan.

I haven't taken the Jayhawks CD out of the car since the day I bought it. There's such an America influence, whether intentional or otherwise, that I knew anyone who liked America would have to love this CD. The song "Stumbling through the Dark" is one of those songs that sticks to the roof of your mind and won't go away. In a good way. I'm glad you had the courage to buy it, Dan. Hopefully others will as well. Like I said, I guarantee 100% satisfaction.


Message: 27413 Posted: Fri Apr 18 21:50:54 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Already Advertising The June Concert

Just returned home from Snotsdale, Arizona a couple of hours ago after being there since this past Tuesday evening. My brother who was out there with me but a couple of days earlier than me said he heard a radio ad on one of the Phoenix stations advertising an upcoming America concert. I see that the concert list has a show scheduled in Scottsdale in June. It's great that the radio is already advertising the show!

Message: 27412 Posted: Fri Apr 18 15:50:04 2003 By: Mary Henderson
Subject: Re;Withdrawal

Hi, Mo, Nancy& everyone, I,I,I,I. I totally agree with Nancy though. I think I would much prefer they visit as themselves. That would be great.Hope everyone has a fantastic Easter weekend. Take care. Mary

Message: 27411 Posted: Fri Apr 18 15:35:58 2003 By: Dan
Subject: Thanks KevinS.

Just got through listening to the Jayhawks CD, Rainy Day Music...twice. This is a fantastic bunch of songs. I can't say it enough. Every song on this is a winner. My faves at the moment are Tailspin, All The Right Reasons, Save It For A Rainy Day, and You Look So Young. I am sure that will change with each listen but they knocked me out with the first two listens. My favorite line from any song was "People love to fall in Love they love to fall in" from Eyes of Sarahjane. This record reminded me of a cross between America/The Rembrandts/Everly Brothers. Anyway, thanks, Kevin for turning me on to this. Are you listening Nancy???DanC.

Message: 27410 Posted: Fri Apr 18 10:27:52 2003 By: rc
Subject: Fleetwood Mac Tour....

For those interested here is the schedule..Tickets through ticketmaster..
May 07 Columbus, OH Value City Arena
May 09 Washington, D.C. MCI Center
May 10 Pittsburgh, PA Mellon Arena
May 13 Cleveland, OH Gund Arena
May 15 Buffalo, NY HSBC Arena
May 17 Atlantic City, NJ Broadwalk Hall Arena
May 19 Philadelphia, PA First Union Center
May 21 Albany, NY Pepsi Arena
May 23 Uniondale, NY Nassau Coliseum
May 25 East Rutherford, NJ Continental Air Arena
May 27 Worcester, MA Worcester's Centrum Center
May 28 Worcester, MA Worcester's Centrum Center
May 31 Nashville, TN Gaylord Entertainment Center

June 01 Greenville, SC BiLo Center
June 03 Atlanta, GA Philips Arena
June 05 Birmingham, AL BJCC Arena
June 07 Fort Lauderdale, FL Office Depot Center
June 08 Tampa, FL St. Pete Times Forum
June 12 Detroit, MI The Palace
June 14, Grand Rapids, MI Van Andel
June 19 St. Paul, MN Xcel Energy Center
June 22 Moline, IL The Mark of the Quad Cities
June 24 Indianapolis, IN Conseco Fieldhouse
June 26 Chicago, IL AllState Arena
June 27 Chicago, IL All State Arena
June 29 Milwaukee, WI Summerfest

July 01 Oklahoma City, OK Ford Center
July 03 Dallas, TX American Airlines Center
July 05 Las Vegas, NV MGM Grand
July 06, Sacramento, CA Arco Arena
July 08 San Jose, CA HP Pavillion at San Jose
July 11 Los Angeles, CA Staples Center
July 12 Los Angeles, CA Staples Center
July 16 Anaheim, CA The Arrowhead Pond
July 17 Anaheim, CA The Arrowhead Pond
July 23 Oakland, CA Oakland Arena
July 25 Portland, OR Rose Garden

Message: 27409 Posted: Fri Apr 18 08:47:09 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Withdrawel & Fleetwood Mac on the Today Show!

Hi Everyone ~~

Hi Mo ~~ Yes thanks soo much for all the great pics and the Program and newspaper article, they both were very good and quite unique, whoever did this news article definitely has to be a fan of AMERICA's. ~~~~ I definitely am in Favor and say IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII, one thing tho.... I think I would want to be able to tell it was really Gerry & Dewey there, the Lurkers sure do have a way of playing confusing mind games with me at times... Sooo if we are to be obliged with Gerry & Dewey joining us for a Live Chat, I wanna be able to enjoy it in its entirety... (If you know what I mean) :) ~~~ Great news that you are SARS~ Free! Enjoy your bunny day with your family! :)

Hi Steve Gross ~~~~ thanks soo much for sharing your pics from the Mentor show with us too. Hmmmm ~~ My inquiring mind is wondering if you are the same Steve Gross that is married to my hubby's first cousin Peggy C. ~~ Too much if this is you,at the family reunion, this past July, I did mention to our other cousin Steve D from Ohio, that I was thinking about attending this Mentor show, that was before I found out about AMERICA coming to IUP for a show. ~~~ Again if this is you, WOW nice to know you like AMERICA too, see ya at the next family reunion! :)

Hey there Sergio ~~~ Darn ~~ I missed seeing Fleetwood Mac on the Today Show this morning, upon seeing your post, I turned it to our west coast NBC channel, to see if I could catch it there, but darn it was over there also... Sooo Stevie sang Rhiannon (that is one of my most favorite songs of theirs)~~ that would have been neat to see her sing it... did you tape it by chance? Did anyone tape it by chance? I wonder if they will be on David Letterman, or Jay Leno tonight?? My inquiring mind is running amuck with wondering where I can catch them... I really like their song Peacekeeper, it is a good one for sure! Enjoy your weekend holiday with your family! :)

Hi Am Girl, Kristal, Gen, Mary & Sheldon ~~~ take care and enjoy your Easter!

Hey there Jimmmmmm(bob) ~~~ I hope the E Bunny brings you some good chocolate eggs. Tooo much ~~ we have Spring greens sprouting and you have the golden colors of Autumn there in NZ. Nice to know that we share the same big sky, sun and moon. Take care! ;)

Hey Red ~~ Get ready to park Nelleybelle and enjoy your Holiday weekend! I hope the E Bunny fills your basket with lots of goodies! :)

Have a great day all! See ya I am hippity hoppiting outta here now, Nancy :)

~~~~ would you stay if she promised you Heaven, will you ever win, will you ever win, Rhiaaaaannnnnnnon, Rhiaaaannnnnnnnnnon, Rhiiiaaaaaanon, rhiiiaaaaaannnnnon ~~ she rings like a bell thru the night and wouldn't you love to love her, she rules the night like a bird in flight, who will be her lover all your life, you've never seen a woman who'd tell you about the win, will you ever winnnn, will you ever win.... Rhiaaaannnnon Rhiaaannnnon, take him back, tell him bout the skyyyyyy ~~~ Sing it Stevie :)

Message: 27408 Posted: Fri Apr 18 07:05:27 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Fleetwood Mac reunion on the Today Show

Good morning everyone on this Good Friday! Being home for the holidays I was able to catch the Fleetwood Mac reunion concert on the Today show this morning... Wow! How nice to see them together again! It was moving to see Stevie Nicks perform "Rhiannon" again, brought back so many memories of the late 70's. Truly a classic! It reminded me when I saw America in the same spot a few years ago...Has anybody heard if they will be returning to the Today concert series?

Mo, so glad you are SARS free. You are too funny! Happy Easter everyone, my best,

Message: 27407 Posted: Fri Apr 18 07:03:21 2003 By: Kristal
Subject: Re: Thanks Mo

Great interview, thanks for sharing it with all of us. Happy Easter everyone!

Message: 27406 Posted: Fri Apr 18 06:16:13 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Withdrawal

Thank you for seconding the motion, AmericanGirl. All in favor, say I....

Message: 27405 Posted: Fri Apr 18 06:15:11 2003 By: Sheldon
Subject: Thanks Mo

Thanks Mo & Steve for the concert photos.. also, thankyou Mo for those interviews, they were great!!


Message: 27404 Posted: Fri Apr 18 04:55:32 2003 By: AmericanGirl
Subject: Re: Withdrawal


Glad to hear you're "SARS-free". As a fine upstanding member of the "no-lifers" gang, I *second* your suggestion! :)

Happy Easter to all!!!!

Message: 27403 Posted: Thu Apr 17 19:44:00 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Withdrawal

It has been more than ten days since Gerry Gerry Gerry, Dewey Dewey Dewey, and the gang have seen me. I know this because I looked up the incubation period for SARS on the CDC website since my family refused to come up to see me for Easter if there was still a possibility of me being Typhoid Moser. Fortunately, the incubation period for SARS is 7 to 10 days which ended yesterday. Therefore, we can conclude, I am SARS-free. I may well be psychotic, but at least, I am SARS-free.

All of this leads me to the following train of thought: Yesterday was the first show that our guys have performed without me in attendance for...hmmm...more than two weeks. Wow, they must surely be experiencing major Moser withdrawal. Poor guys. Anyway, fortunately there is a cure. Why, more Moser of course. So, I just wanted to invite Gerry and Dewey to feel free to join us (ie: Moser) in the Wednesday evening live chat any time you may be feeling the need for a fix. You don't have to admit it is you, of course. You can lurk under a deviantly chosen alias as many have done in the past. Hmm, let's see...maybe Gerry could stop by as Schroeder. Certainly no one would guess who that might be. Or, Dewey you could stop in as Poison Oak. Surely, no one would be the wiser. On second thought, maybe you should declare your identity right up front so us no lifers can behave ourselves. Well, maybe not, what fun would that be, after all?

Happy Bunny Day, Everyone.

Message: 27402 Posted: Thu Apr 17 18:08:18 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Dewey Trivia Answers

Vic & Others ~ The tie-in to the "Harbor" poster and the Grateful Dead is that one of the guys pictured on the poster is wearing a Grateful Dead t-shirt. I believe his nickname was "Raccoon" and he was a member of the America back-up band "Captain".

It's my understanding that Dew enjoys collecting Grateful Dead memorabilia (probably as much as a lot of us here like collecting America items!)

Message: 27401 Posted: Thu Apr 17 11:55:12 2003 By: Nina
Subject: Happy Easter!

Happy Easter everyone! I celebrated Easter LAST week-end because sister and family are headed for Florida this week-end. They are headed for "Disney" for the first time! Can't wait to hear from niece and nephew, as they think they are just visiting relatives down there! They have NO CLUE that "Disney" is in their immediate fututre! Wish I could be there to see their faces...but I'll have to settle for a long distance call "sometime" next week! Don't feel too bad for me though, it's school vacation...Hooray! A whole week to rest and relax...AND spring clean!

Message: 27400 Posted: Thu Apr 17 10:23:47 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Happy Easter ~~ VFTHW Pic ~~ Dewey's trivia

Hi there Everyone :) Sooo windy and alot cooler, and rainy here today. I just picked the kids up from the bus, they are done with school till teusday.

Hi Janice ~~ Thanks for sharing that beautiful song with us, these lyrics are sooo true for sure! Take care and Easter Blessings to you and your family! :)

Hmmmmm ~~ Thanks Gerry for the pic of green green grass! Nice! ~~ I hope you guys will make it back home for a Nice Easter holiday with your families.

Hey Gen ~~ Thanks for sharing that neat Poem verse with us... yes it adds a really nice perspective to this vfthw pic... too much that the title of the poem collection is AMERICANA! WOW :)

Hi rc ~~~ Wysteria is playing here now, believe it or not, that was one of Dan's songs I hadn't remembered. Upon you mentioning it I searched for it and got it, I really like the mystic this song leaves you with, Dan's voice is ooooooh sooo nice on this and I love the accoustic simplicity of it. I can see why it is a requested one for him to do at his shows. I also found Gypsy Wind from the Phoenix lp and it was sooo good to hear it again, I have Phoenix on 8 track tape and it has been years since I heard the songs on it. ~~ Will you be going to see him this summer there in Ohio? Daisyjane64 told me he has a show there before he comes to PA. ~~ I hope to see him soon! :)

Wow Mo ~~ Great going on the Dewey Trivia question.... I know of Dire Straits and their neat song "Money for Nothing" I can remember the video to this song as well as hear it in my head.... I never knew the lead singers name tho.... Way to go Vic ~~ You did good to, I would of never figured The Grateful Dead to be Dewey's favorite group... WOW ~~ neat how you tied the lyrics in from Don Henley's Boys of Summer song.... to solve this... I like that song alot, always sang that line, I always wondered what it meant. Thanks for the info.... Tough but good Trivia Johnny! :)

Hi Beth & Steve O ~~ that is a pretty interesting list of artists and albums you came up with... I had Neil Young on my mind the day I posted about David Gates and Bread, I have Neil's stuff on 8 track as well and would love to be able to hear these songs again. Firefall also comes to my mind, is there a box set of their releases available? I agree it is long over due for some kinda updated release from Seals & Croft. I wonder if their involvement in their religious beliefs has kinda hampered this from coming to be. ~~~ In my email this morning was a letter from VH1 and from this I went to take a listen to Fleetwood Mac's new CD "Say You Will" ~~ Hmmm these are some different songs, I can hear their music style in some of the songs, and Lindsay Buckingham's voice is definitely dominent on alot of these songs, it is nice to hear Stevie & his magic working together again. I do miss Christine McVie's voice on this tho... all in all this CD is alright, but I must admit I like their older albums better, I guess I would have to take a couple more close listens to this new one to see if this would change for me. ~~ I gotta hand it to them tho for coming out with a new CD, the time is definitely right for alot of these artists to do this. ~~ I look forward to getting Jackson Browne's Running on Empty DVD, it should be well worth my waiting to hear it. :)

I just wanted to say I had a fun time at Live Chat last night, thanks to all of you guys! :)

Well take care everyone, enjoy your day! ~~ I sure hope the Easter Bunny fills all of your baskets with lots of Blessings! (and some chocolate too) ;) See ya, Nancy :) Timothy is singing his remake of a Bob Dylan song "Make You Feel My Love" ~~~ Wow Timothy's magic sure brings this song to life!

~~~When the rain is blowing in your face, and the whole world is on your case, I could offer you a warm embrace, to Make YOU Feel MY Love, when evening shatters and the stars appear, and there is no one there to dry your tears, I could hold you for a million years to make you feel my love, I know you haven't made your mind up yet, but I would never do you wrong, I've known it from the moment thatwe met, no doubt in my mind where you belonged ~~~ Sing it Timothy B Schmitt sooooo nice for sure :) ;) :)

Message: 27399 Posted: Thu Apr 17 07:27:08 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Dewey Trivia Answers

Yo, Mo, way to go! Yes, it's Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits.

And Vic, you are the "victor" with the Grateful Dead answer!

Message: 27398 Posted: Thu Apr 17 04:33:52 2003 By: Janice
Subject: Happy Easter

I've never made a fortune, and it's probably too late now.
But I don't worry about that much, I'm happy anyhow.
And as I go along life's way,
I'm reaping better than I sowed.
I'm drinking from my saucer,
'Cause my cup has overflowed.

Haven't got a lot of riches,
and sometimes the going's tough.
But I've got loving ones all around me,
and that makes me rich enough.

I thank God for his blessings,
and the mercies He's bestowed.
I'm drinking from my saucer,
'Cause my cup has overflowed.

I remember times when things went wrong,
My faith wore somewhat thin.
But all at once the dark clouds broke,
and the sun peeped through again.

So Lord, help me not to gripe,
about the tough rows I have hoed.
I'm drinking from my saucer,
'Cause my cup has overflowed.

If God gives me strength and courage,
When the way grows steep and rough.
I'll not ask for other blessings,
I'm already blessed enough.

And may I never be too busy,
to help others bear their loads.
Then I'll keep drinking from my saucer,
'Cause my cup has overflowed.

When I think of how many people
in this world have it worse than I do.
I realize just how lucky most of us really are.

Never gives up,
Never loses faith,
Always be hopeful,

Peace and Happy Easter,


Message: 27397 Posted: Thu Apr 17 01:00:41 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Dewey Trivia (And Still Another Major Correction)

That would be The Grateful Dead, not the Greatful Dead. That's it, I'm going to bed.

Message: 27396 Posted: Wed Apr 16 21:06:06 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Dewey Trivia (Still Another Major Correction)

That would be Mark Knopfler, not Mark Knofler and the song is actually "Money For Nothing"

Message: 27395 Posted: Wed Apr 16 20:34:55 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Dewey Trivia (Still Another Major Correction)

That would be Carl Wilson, not Brian Wilson, who is deceased.

Message: 27394 Posted: Wed Apr 16 20:27:52 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Dewey Trivia (A Major Correction)

I agree with Moser, Mark Knofler has to be the Mark that you are looking for.<<They had several extremely popular videos during that time that were played on MTV a lot! One of their songs was a perfect fit because of the song's subject!>> "I Want My MTV"

The group, however, is the Greatful Dead. A little misdirection on your part, Johnny.

<<The music group that Dewey likes a lot still exists, I believe, but is definitely not quite the same without one of the founding members who is now deceased>> Could be Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys, but is Jerry Garcia of The Greatful Dead.

<<this deceased member's first name is the same name that Dewey has 'heard' for many, many years>> Gerry/Jerry

<<When I think of America's "Harbor" poster, I sometimes think of this band>> Could be, that the Beach Boys also performed at the concert pictured on the one side of the poster and the many beach scenes pictured on the other side, beach scenes, Beach Boys. Could be, lots of long hair and beards,(the look) The Greatful Dead?

<<Don Henley has a solo song that makes mention of this band but via the band's nickname>> "The Boys of Summer", "...last week I saw a DEADHEAD sticker on a Cadilac, a little voice inside my head said don't look back, you can never look back..." or something close to that.

Message: 27393 Posted: Wed Apr 16 19:18:20 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Dewey Trivia (A Major Correction)

Mark Knopfler
The Beach Boys

Message: 27392 Posted: Wed Apr 16 18:17:46 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Dewey Trivia (A Major Correction)

Nancy, Lass, and All ~ One of Dewey's favorite artists that I had in mind isn't named "Steve" after all. I must have had too many Steves on the mind having mentioned SteveL and SteveO yesterday. That's my excuse anyway. I should have said the first name is "Mark". I'm very sorry about that! Mark is a guitarist and lead singer for a group that was very popular during the 80s. They had several extremely popular videos during that time that were played on MTV a lot! One of their songs was a perfect fit because of the song's subject!

The musical group that Dewey likes a lot still exists, I believe, but is definitely not quite the same without one of its founding members who is now deceased. As a matter-of-fact, this deceased member's first name is the same name that Dewey has hear for many, many years. When I think of America's "Harbor" poster, I sometimes think of this band. Don Henley has a solo song that makes mention of this band but via the band's nickname. Any guesses?

Message: 27391 Posted: Wed Apr 16 17:43:16 2003 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: LPs that aren't on CD

Hi Beth,
Buckingham/Nicks is a definate must on CD! I have a bootleg version recorded from vinyl. Not sure about the Ozarks,but I'll mark it down for the next list. I know some of their stuff was reissued. Also,if anybody wants to submit titles directly to me,its easiest to reach me at this email address:

Message: 27390 Posted: Wed Apr 16 17:33:22 2003 By: Beth
Subject: LPs that aren't on CD

Steve & Friends, just have to put in my two cents worth on this:

1)It'll Shine When It Shines - Ozark Mountain Daredevils

There, I feel so much better now!

Message: 27389 Posted: Wed Apr 16 13:26:12 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: VFTHW - Jackson

starring at that fence will give you vertigo!

Message: 27388 Posted: Wed Apr 16 06:53:24 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: VFTHW - Jackson

Hi everyone!
Thanks Steve for posting Gerry's pic. Can't help feeling like posting my comment on it since the minute I saw it, it reminded me of a John Updike' s poem that has a passage about an empty parking lot.

"At dusk, the painted stripes devoid of cars
are like unplayed piano keys..."

From AMERICANA by John Updike (2001)

Message: 27387 Posted: Tue Apr 15 19:09:00 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: LP's That Aren't On CD

A few weeks ago Steve Orchard posted a message here seeking input on LP's that have never been available on CD. Some of you e-mailed Steve personally to give him your opinions. Steve put a column together that reflected some of those requests. He also checked with friends and customers that he deals with on a day to day basis. Below you will find a copy of that column which will run in Thursday's Iron Mountain Daily News. Steve mentioined that he would share the column when he was done. So, here it is:

By Steve Orchard

Over the past year I've mentioned a number of albums that have been unavailable to the CD format since the inception of the disk in the middle 80's. There are still quite a few that are unavailable and may never see a proper reissue. So what are some of those albums that have never made it to CD? Over the past few months I've solicited input from friends, customers and even via the internet. I need to commend all of you who have chipped in with your suggestions. So here's the first listing of titles that you've decided you'd spend your hard-earned cash on if they were available on CD!

1)Neil Young/On The Beach(1974)
2)Seals & Crofts/Get Closer(1976)
3)Harry Chapin/Legends of the Lost & Found-New Greatest Stories Live(1979)
4)ST: American Hot Wax(1978)
6)Neil Young/Reactor(1981)
7)3 Dog Night/Around The World With 3 Dog Night Live(1973)
8)Jim Croce/You Don't Mess Around With Jim(1972) and Life And Times(1973)
9)Candy/Whatever Happened To fun(1985)
10)Quiet Riot 1 & 2 (1978 & 1979)
11)Peter Frampton/Where I Should Be(1979)
12)Hamilton,Joe Frank & Reynolds/Fallin' In Love(1975)
13)Dionne Warwick/No Night So Long(1980)
14)ST: All This & World War II(1977)
15)George Harrison/Live In Japan(1992)
16)Andy Kim/Andy Kim(1974)
17)Johnny Cash/One Piece At A Time(1976)
18)Eddie Rabbitt/Horizon(1980)
20)Dr. Hook/A Little Bit More(1976) and Sometimes You win(1979)

Most of Neil Young's catalog is available,but "On The Beach" has even had a website created where you can vote to get it reissued! The Petition is already over 5100 entries. Young has never been a fan of the CD format, but there's talk of a possible release to DVD-Audio, which he favors. The lack of Catalog product for artists like Jim Croce and Seals & Crofts is puzzling.

I would have thought that a label like Rhino would have tackled that by now. Seals & Crofts' 1975 "Best of" is sorely in need of an update,and with the exception of 1972's "Summer Breeze",10 of their charting albums still remain unavailable. Some of the George Harrison titles are still out there, but later ones aren't,and litigation is holding up reissue dates for those. Various artist compilations have licensing issues to deal with, which create additional headaches. 1977's "All This & World War II" features Lennon & McCartney songs done by artists of the day including Elton John, Rod Stewart, Leo Sayer, Ambrosia, Henry Gross and others. The album didn't do very well, but offered an interesting take on Beatle cover tunes. If you'd like to offer your input to titles you feel belong on CD, be sure to note the email address below and I'll work on another list in the next few months.

Do you have questions or comments about music? You can reach me at

Message: 27386 Posted: Tue Apr 15 18:54:37 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - Jackson

Click here to see Gerry's View From The Hotel Window in Jackson, MS.

Message: 27385 Posted: Tue Apr 15 18:18:49 2003 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Jackson Browne on DVD-Audio

In regards to Johnny's earlier comments,its good to see an artist like Jackson Browne hitting the DVD-Audio Format. Browne himself has been very hands-on with the project. There are 3 bonus tracks to this disk: An alternate version of "Cocaine",which offers different lyrics than the regular version and 2 Instrumentals: "Edwardsville,Room 124"
was recorded on the road during his '77 tour and "Overture" is an instrumental medley that recaps the entire LP and features a video montage too. "Ice" Magazine reports that "Running on Empty exemplifies the vast reaches of the DVD-audio format: more than 300 photos,many unreleased,are featured on the disk. Browne went through each song,chose photos for each one,and also chose the order they would go in." "The Naked Ride Home" is gonna offer a lot less. It only features some unreleased video documented by Browne. No doubt,"Running on Empty" will be the real keeper here. The actual release date is still not available,though they are both slated for Summer. I'll post more info when I know.

Message: 27384 Posted: Tue Apr 15 17:55:09 2003 By: rc
Subject: Nancy

Hi.. You mentioned DF playing To the Morning...He has on several occasions and is usually solo at the piano. It was on the play list last year but he dropped that one and Old Tennesee the night I saw him for whatever reason.. He has also played Stars as well..I hope you get to hear it.
But the one song that many people have mentioned over the years they wish he would play is Wisteria. And I am in that crowd lol..
Take Care..

Message: 27383 Posted: Tue Apr 15 17:38:38 2003 By: rc
Subject: OT..For, Jason, Robyn, Lass

Another Peter Straub reader although I only read two of them to date.
The Throat.. which turned out to be the last in a trilogy lol but really good..Jason's right about the plot twists and turns..Took me to just about the end to figure out who done it...
The other I read was The Hellfire Club..
The past few years I have been hooked on Iris Johansen books.

Lass.. Thankyou for your input on Opera..

Message: 27382 Posted: Tue Apr 15 16:35:59 2003 By: Lass
Subject: Re: A Dewey Trivia Question & more

Nancy ~ That's my guess too Steve Winwood and the other would be The Beach Boys of course

For those who like Peter Straub and Steven King, Black House is an excellent book, just finished reading it about a month ago.

Message: 27381 Posted: Tue Apr 15 16:17:52 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: A Dewey Trivia Question

Me Again :)
Hmmm ~~ So it isn't Steve Perry , well then is it Steve Winwood???

Message: 27380 Posted: Tue Apr 15 15:23:00 2003 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: A Dewey Trivia Question

Yup, Johnny, I still like that song. In fact, I quite enjoy that whole album.j

Message: 27379 Posted: Tue Apr 15 14:55:40 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: A Dewey Trivia Question

Nancy ~ Good guess but not Steve Perry. The first name is correct though. The performer has been mentioned here before as being one of Dew's favorites. The other hasn't been mentioned, I believe. The other is a group whose name consists of two words. Well, three if you include the word, "The". They first came together in the 60s.

Message: 27378 Posted: Tue Apr 15 13:45:30 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: A Dewey Trivia Question

Me Again :)
Hmmmmm ~~~ I am gonna say that Steve Perry is one of Dewey's favorite performers.

Hmmmm ~~ I too thought it was Gerry or Dewey doing that OOooow, in response to something that happened at that moment. I love the way Gerry sounds like he is on a Western movie when he says and That's my partner Dewey Bunnell, something about the way it comes across on this Grand Cayman CD sounds different than hearing it at the IUP show.... Too much!

Oooh Johnny ~~ Maybe Russ Ballard knows something we don't! LOL! I always liked the song, Gerry's voice is soo neat on it and the music accents it well, along with the fun loving lyrics...

Hi Robyn ~~ Neat question, I will listen to the Grand Cayman CD tonight while I finish up my reports...

Hi Steve L ~~ Nice that you already have this Poco CD to enjoy, it is mighty tempting for sure! ~~ I will have to add it to my wanna get list.

Hey Red ~~ Good one about the Brains..... I wonder how much mine would be worth, LOL! I feel they are shot! :)

See ya, Nancy :) ~~~ Running on Empty, running dry, Running on Empty, running lowwwww ~~~~ :)

Message: 27377 Posted: Tue Apr 15 12:50:53 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: A Dewey Trivia Question

Close, John. Twisted Sister. Just kiddin' of course.

By the way if I recall correctly, it's you and me, John, who like "Jody" so much from "VFTG".

Nancy ~ Doubtful that "Jody" was the name of one of Gerry's girlfriends from the past since the song was actually written by Russ Ballard.

Message: 27376 Posted: Tue Apr 15 12:41:40 2003 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: A Dewey Trivia Question


Message: 27375 Posted: Tue Apr 15 12:32:09 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Gerry asks Dewey "ready?" and Dewey answers "yep"

I don't have access to the CD at the moment, but I seem to recall when I first heard the "Oooww" at the end of "Wind Wave," I thought it was Dewey.

Message: 27374 Posted: Tue Apr 15 12:18:18 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Gerry asks Dewey "ready?" and Dewey answers "yep"

I like that moment too. Also, at the end of SGH you can hear, "Where do we go?" I think that may be Gerry speaking. And I think it is Dewey who answers, "I think this way."

One more that is a mystery is at the end of Windwave someone says, "OOww." It's very clear and close to the mic so I wonder if it could have been Dewey or Gerry or if it was just a fan.

You're right, it adds to the charm of the recording.

Message: 27373 Posted: Tue Apr 15 11:34:25 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Jackson Browne Info

That's good to know

Running on Empty is one of my very favorite albums, a live recording of brand new works, a gutsy move on Browne's part if I do say so myself.. Engineer Greg Ladayni (sp?) recoreded some or the cleanest sound this side of Hank Linderman.

In any live recording, I listen for the little imperfections that make it a better experience for me. On this one, it's the fan who screams out "Play what you want" at the very beginning when fans are calling out names of songs. I also listen for the break of the drum stick in "You love the Thunder"

So in that vein, what is your favorite "unscripeted Monet" from the classic, Grand Cayman's cd? I like when Gerry asks Dewey "ready? and Dewey answers "yep"

Message: 27372 Posted: Tue Apr 15 11:19:57 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: A Dewey Trivia Question

Isn't one of Dewey's favorite pasttimes reading? I believe I read that somewhere. It would seem to fit with his writing of the song "Pages."

The trivia question: Name one of two of Dewey's favorite musical performers.

(I'm sure there are many more, but I know of these two positively.)

Message: 27371 Posted: Tue Apr 15 11:03:03 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Jackson Browne Info

For those of you who are Jackson Browne fans (and I know there are many here), here's a bit of music information that I rec'd from SteveO a couple of weeks ago via a really cool music review he writes weekly:


"One of the more frustrating aspects about the release of DVD-Audio titles is the constant delays and pushed-back release dates. There is good news though, with a slew of titles looking firm for Summer release. Those include 2 titles from JACKSON BROWNE: 1977's 'Running on Empty' and his more recent release, 2002's 'The Naked Ride Home.' According to 'Ice' Magazine, Browne has been totally 'hands on' with these 2 titles. 'Running on Empty' will include 3 bonus tracks, which is rare to the format, along with 300 photos, many of them unreleased.

Also poised for a July release is THE BEACH BOYS' 'Pet Sounds' which has been bumped numerous times."

Message: 27370 Posted: Tue Apr 15 08:48:04 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: View and book

hmmm could be a play on the word "view" but I don't know. I will have to add the book to my ever expanding reading list I read a lot of books, more when I am stressed out and my three month schedule is a killer, so it looks like I am in for a lot of reading. Any suggestions anyone ( for reading I mean!)

Message: 27369 Posted: Tue Apr 15 08:19:59 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Jody = Moser

Good one, Mo B! I knew you had a good sense-of-humor. I have an equally good response, but I'll let you have the last word. :0)

Message: 27368 Posted: Tue Apr 15 08:17:25 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Running Horse CD

I got my copy of Poco's "Running Horse" CD yesterday and I've already had a chance to listen to it several times (I plan on listening to it even more today). If you like the soundclips on the Poco web site, you'll love the CD. Very easy listening, great harmonies (just like our guys!), nice acoustic guitars, and just a touch of country (but not too much).

Message: 27367 Posted: Tue Apr 15 07:41:48 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Got Brains

See where Rodney Dangerfield had to have brain surgery to improve blood flow in the brain. He may have wanted to have a brain transplant after reading this:

Got the brains

The patient's family gathered to hear what the specialist had to say.
'Things don't look good. The only chance is a brain transplant. This is an experimental procedure. It might work, but the bad news is that brains are very expensive, and you will have to pay the costs yourselves.'

'Well, how much does a brain cost?' asked the relatives.
'For a male brain, $500,000. For a female brain, $200,000.'

Some of the younger male relatives tried to look shocked, but all the men nodded because they thought they understood. A few actually smirked. But the patient's daughter was unsatisfied and asked,
'Why the difference in price between male brains and female brains?'

'A standard pricing practice,' said the head of the team. 'Women's brains have to be marked down because they have actually been used.'

The mind is a terrible thing.......:-)

Message: 27366 Posted: Tue Apr 15 07:09:26 2003 By: Jason Smith
Subject: Moser - Book on VIEW cover


Good point. I have the paperback but I can't find it. It's probably in the loft. However, I found the novel issued after IF YOU COULD SEE ME NOW which was a book called GHOST STORY. This was published in 1979 so IYCSMN would be earlier still. View From The Ground was released in 1982 if I recall correctly, therefore it would have been a few years old at the time of the album cover.

So it might have been any old book or perhaps one of Dewey's favourites at that time?

Now there's a challange.


Message: 27365 Posted: Tue Apr 15 06:56:53 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Moser - Book on VIEW cover

Thanks, Jas, for the insight. I figured someone would know the answer. I wonder if that was just what Dewey happened to be reading at the time. Do you know if the book was released around the same time as when the View cover photo would have been shot? Just wondering.

Message: 27364 Posted: Tue Apr 15 06:52:17 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: A little reply to this and a little reply to that & then some!

Hi Everyone ~~ A Beautiful Spring Morning here, finally more green color, and the daffodils are all abloom. I think Papa & Mrs Bluebird have finally decided which bluebird box they will set up nesting in, sooo now it is on with the fun part of their ritual.... ;)

Hi rc thanks for the site info on Dan Fogelberg, I checked it out, I am hoping to get to see him this summer. I have been listening to his songs & sharing some with a new friend.:) ~~~ Hey there Speech, just like the mention of Jeff Larson lets us hear from JeffB, sure enough the mention of DanF can let us hear from you. I too am anxious to hear his new CD and which direction his songs will take on now. ~~ Upon reading the posts on his site, I noticed that he has sang his song "To The Morning" at his shows, I hope I will be lucky enough to hear him sing it too.

Hi there Goanna & Matt ~~ Good to hear from you both. Nope, I haven't heard any of Silverchair by Diorama. Sounds like I may be missing out on some good stuff. ~~~ Matt, hopefully we will be getting to hear your new CD soon.

Cheers Jas ~~ Hey there KevinS ~~ It seems that Kevin has heard this new Jayhawks release. ~~~~ Sooo Kevin you say this new cd from Jayhawks is good enough to even stop making sweet ~ sweet love, and go out and buy, sure has my curiousity caught! :)

Hi Vic & Gen ~~ Yes I checked out Swandog's illustrated pic with the Ventura Hwy lyriclines. She has quite the talent, the picture sure has a way of coming to life.... I guess in a way for her it does come to life, she says in her post that she portrayed each of the dragons after friends of hers...

Hey Mo ~~ Hmmm the title of this book that Dewey seems to be reading is "If You Could See Me Now" I am having some trouble making out the author tho.... regarding Gerry's song Jody, awww I have always liked it alot, I always wondered if this Jody was one of his earlier on girlfriends, and if soooo Lucky Jody, and yes my favorite line from this song is ~~~~~ Nancy even the wind says your name girl, when I think of you, I'm a flame girl~~everytime~~Nancy girl I've tried, but I can't forget the years that we lived together, I thought it would be forever, Nancy, I'm back in love ~~~ Nice Dreamin huh!!! :) :) :) ~~ View from the Ground is right up close to the top of my favorite albums of theirs, some really nice lyrics on these songs...

Hi Hoooo Reeeed eee Oaaaaak ~~~ Your Desserts post has me now looking at things a little bit more clearly, thanks a bunch for the input! ~~~ Hey ~~ I Can't Tell You Why is playing here now ~~~ Hmmmm some nice goals are running thru my mind ~~~ Sing it TimothyB ~~~~ ooooo oooooooo every time I try and walk away, something makes me turn around and stay, and I Can't Tell You Why, no Baby, I can't tell you why, ooooooh I can't tell you why, Nooooo ~~ awwww what a great song, I could never get enough of it for sure, I love playing it over & over & over & over.... right Red? :)

Hi there Jimmmmmm(bob) have a good week at work!

Hey there DanC(Mr Mailman)~ You best be a SMILING on this the 2nd busiest Mail day.... ~~~ Thank the morning for bringing youuuu, hope you never turn your head and run, and thank the sun for shining to, hope the darkness never comes again, what it does to meee, isn't goood to see .... Once a Miser, twice a son, three's the devil, fours alot of FUN, I'm for living one and all~~~ Sing it Gerry :)

Have a great day all! Nancy :)

~~~ He's callin, callin, calling, He's callin, callin calling, he's callin callin calling, He's callin ~~ come sit down here beside me Honey, let's have a little heart to heart, now look at me and tell me Darlin, how badly do you want this part, are you willing to sacrafice, and are you willing to be real nice, all your talent, and my good taste, I'd Hate to see It Go To Waste..... Sing it from there Eagles :) :) :)

Message: 27363 Posted: Tue Apr 15 06:43:59 2003 By: Jason Smith
Subject: Moser - Book on VIEW cover


The book Dewey is holding is IF YOU COULD SEE ME NOW by Peter Straub. I've raised this subject before as I'm a big fan of Peter Straub and wondered if there was any significance. I recieved no reply so I'm assuming not.

Just to let you know Peter Straub writes Horror novels. However, of all the modern writers of this genre he is probably the most literary. He's co-written 2 books with Stephen King called THE TALISMAN and BLACK HOUSE. Probably his best book is a non-horror called KOKO which is a murder/mystery concerning the vietnam war.

IF YOU COULD SEE ME NOW is a strange book about a young man returning to his small home town. He is blamed for an accidental death of young girl which he remembers nothing about. The story has many twists and turns and you never really know whether he's responsible or whether it was an accident or something more sinister until the very end.

It's a good read in an off-beat sort of way.

Hope that helps.


Message: 27362 Posted: Tue Apr 15 06:38:10 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Jody = Moser

I'm flattered, Mr. Yee. Most guys use a Playboy for that.

Message: 27361 Posted: Tue Apr 15 00:26:52 2003 By: mBluLight
Subject: Re: Silverchair

i'm absolutely blown away by Diorama... when i was playing with the androids in australia, their bassist (now guitarist) was a huge fan... im not even sure if it's available stateside, but in the words of Bono, who is apparently a fan as well "i don't care if you have to swim to australia to get the album, do it immeadiately".

johns has really grown into being an amazing songwriter...

hope all is well


Message: 27360 Posted: Mon Apr 14 20:45:12 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Jody = Moser

Moby, even the wind says your name, girl
When I think of you I'm inflamed, girl, everytime
Moby, girl I've tried but I can't forget....

(Mo B ~ No bad vibes intended. I know you have a very good sense-of-humor so I hope you can apply it here. Johnny B.)

Message: 27359 Posted: Mon Apr 14 17:51:39 2003 By: Lass
Subject: Re: Jeff's Latest MP3's...Steve L.

Robin ~ Opera is not a bad browser to use, it will navigate IExplorer sites (ie: Jeff Larson's site) if you change it's idenity to MSIE. I prefer Netscape or Mozilla myself

Message: 27358 Posted: Mon Apr 14 15:35:34 2003 By: rc
Subject: Re: OT..Dan Fogelberg New CD

Hi Speech... yes I know what you mean. I went to see him last year mostly because he was playing with the band for a change, and he had said in interviews that when he turned 50 he would stop touring. So last year could have been the last time for all we knew.. I hope he plays a lot from the new CD but you know the "hits" standby list will be looming lol..
I hope you have a great time at the concert.

Message: 27357 Posted: Mon Apr 14 14:33:51 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: "Ventura Highway" "Illustrated Lyrics"

Thanks for pointing us to this link, Vic.
Had missed the message it seems.
Nice illustration with fantastic creatures. Well done, anyway.

Message: 27356 Posted: Mon Apr 14 13:04:36 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Jody = Moser

We had ourselves a splendid Sunday yesterday. It was just the way it should be, sunny out (although a bit crisp), nowhere to go, time to read the paper, do some cross-stitch, and of course watch golf. Did you ever notice that watching golf on TV tends to make you walk around talking in a stage whisper? Just thought I'd mention that.

Anyway, during this splendid Sunday, we had an opportunity to listen to lots of America music--but then again, when don't we? But instead of the usual suspects, we played some of the less familiar CD's like Alibi and View From The Ground. They are growing on me slowly but surely. One of my least favorite America songs and one that is much maligned in this household is Jody from View. Just for fun, I started singing my own name in place of Jody anywhere in the song. Now, hey, it's a masterpiece. Thanks for writing a song for me, Ger. "Moser, even the wind knows your name, girl." Kinda has a ring to it, doesn't it? My husband might alter that lyric a bit... "Moser, you are full of hot wind, girl." Hmm. I think I like Gerry's version much better. Sorry if I've ruined that song for the rest of you now.

Here's a trivia question for you diehards. Does anyone know what book Dewey has in his hand on the front cover of View? I don't know the answer but would like to know if anyone else does. Get out the magnifying glass.

Message: 27355 Posted: Mon Apr 14 12:14:32 2003 By: Jason Smith
Subject: The Thrills

Hi all,

Had myself a very nice break in Devon this last week and had some fabulous weather too, which is always a bonus in England.

I don't know whether this song has hit the US airwaves as yet or the rest of Europe but there's currently a song in the UK chart by an Irish band called THE THRILLS. The songs called ONE HORSE TOWN and it sounds like it was made in the 70s not 2003. It's a real catchy Country Rock number. However, no drum machines or dance floor wizardy are involved just a good old guitar and banjo so it sounds very authentic.

I haven't heard any of their other material but will let you know once their debut album is released.

The best news is that I can now tell my wife that my music is trendy and up to the minute even if it is 30 years old.


PS: Anyone heard the new JAYHAWKS lp yet. I'm hoping to get it later this week.

Message: 27354 Posted: Mon Apr 14 11:25:42 2003 By: speechwriter
Subject: Re: OT..Dan Fogelberg New CD

thanks for the heads up. in light of this news, the show i'm going to at the keswick in june takes on new lustre. i was looking forward to seein dan for a second year in a row, but i get frustrated that a lot of the material he showcases is stuff that's been in the set list for years.

Message: 27353 Posted: Mon Apr 14 09:56:38 2003 By: Vic
Subject: "Ventura Highway" "Illustrated Lyrics"

For anyone who may be interested, a few days ago, over on the America message board, an artist who calls herself "Swandog", posted what she calls, "Illustrated Lyrics", based on an impression she got from hearing a portion of, "Ventura Highway". Here is the link:

The post number is 3547.

Message: 27352 Posted: Mon Apr 14 07:31:03 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Stress Diet

Yes Geneva, I know a lot about the dark side of the net, that's why they call me Dark Red. Were those castanets Planters or Fishers? I am going to start out the week with a topic that is near & dear to most women's heart. Nancio, pay special attention to the chocolate items listed below. Take care all.

Stress Diet

This is a specially formulated diet designed to help you cope with the stress that builds up during the day:

Breakfast - I grapefruit, I slice whole-wheat toast, I cup of skim milk.

Lunch - Small portion of lean, steamed chicken with a cup of spinach, 1 cup of herbal tea, I Tim Tam.

Afternoon Tea - The rest of the packet of Tim Tams, I tub of Tip Top ice cream with chocolate topping, I jar of Nutella.

Dinner - 4 bottles of red wine, 2 loaves of garlic bread, I family size supreme pizza, 3 Snickers bars.

Late Night Snack - Whole frozen Sarah Lee cheesecake eaten directly from the freezer.

Diet Rules
1. If no one sees you eat something, it has no calories.

2. When drinking a diet Coke with a chocolate bar, the fat in the chocolate is cancelled out by the diet Coke.

3. When you eat with someone else, calories don't count if you do not eat more than they do.

4. Food used for medicinal purposes does NOT count. (For example: hot chocolate, toast, cheesecake, vodka...)

5. If you fatten up the people around you, you will look thinner.

6. Cinema-related foods have a zero calorie count as they are part of the entertainment package and not counted as food intake. This includes popcorn, Minties, Maltesers, Jaffas and frozen Cokes.

7. Biscuit pieces have no calories because breaking the biscuits up causes calorie leakage.

8. Food licked from knives and spoons has no fat if you are in the process of cooking something.

9. Foods that are the same color have the same amount of fat. Examples are: spinach and peppermint ice cream, apples and red jelly snakes.

10. Chocolate is like a food-color wildcard and may be substituted for any other color.

11. Anything eaten while standing has no calories due to gravity and the density of the calorie mass.

12. Food consumed from someone else's plate has no fat as it rightfully belongs to the other person and will cling to his/her plate. (Oh, how fat likes to cling!)


The mind is a terrible thing.......

Message: 27351 Posted: Mon Apr 14 06:04:41 2003 By: Goanna
Subject: Silverchair


I curious... does anyone have a copy of Silverchairs "Diorama"
and what's your opinion of OZ music culture? do you guys here much on US radio? just interested

Message: 27350 Posted: Mon Apr 14 04:21:20 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Belly dancing?

No, sorry Red. It looked more like tap dancing, actually.

<<Tapes of this aren't going to end up in "French Women Gone Bad" are they?>>

You seem to know A LOT more about the DARK SIDE of internet than I do ;-)
But NO tape was made to my regret ( I was really good if you consider I could not hear the piano because these two guys were teasing me with the castanets !)...

Hi Nancy,

<<I wanna come and spend some Saturday evenings there with you and your friends>> You can join anytime you please, but you may have to take a fortnight off, at least. See you soon.

Message: 27349 Posted: Sun Apr 13 20:37:23 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: See What A Little Snooping Can Do

I was snooping around Jeff's web site and I stumbled on an information web page that has most of Jeff's basic information (including the MP3 clips) and it works with Netscape (hooray!). The link to get to that page is

Message: 27348 Posted: Sun Apr 13 18:45:25 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Re: Jeff Larson Sound Clips

SteveL, thanks for the info regarding saving the sound clips. That helps a lot.

Message: 27347 Posted: Sun Apr 13 18:18:13 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Mo's Photos

I got a bunch of photos from Mo tonight and when I sent her a reply my mail message was bounced back to me. So, here's the gist of the message for Mo's benefit and the rest of you can listen in.

Thanks so much for all the photos, Mo. They look great. Thanks, too, for sending the newspaper article. I look forward to reading all of it.

I know what you mean about being busy. I hope it doesn't take as long as I think it might, but don't be surprised if it takes me a week or two to get the photos posted. I'll do my best but we're in the middle of a big crunch at work and I don't have a lot of free time. By the end of the month things should ease up so if I haven't posted them in the next week or two, I'll definitely have time by the end of the month.

Thanks again for sending the photos and thanks for your patience.

I also received some photos from Steve B. Gross which were taken at the same (Mentor) concert. I should get those posted about the same time.

Message: 27346 Posted: Sun Apr 13 18:08:19 2003 By: rc
Subject: Re: Jeff's Latest MP3's...Steve L.

Thanks.. I didn't like the Netscape 6. versions so went back to 4. version I had been using.. Will have to upgrade to 7 one of these days..
If you want to check out opera at all just go to You can read user reviews at

Message: 27345 Posted: Sun Apr 13 18:05:10 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Dan Fogelberg New CD and Jeff Larson Sound Clips

Since I'm a Netscape user, I can tell you how to save the MP3 clips using Netscape. The steps are probably similar if you're using IE. Simply right click on the link to the MP3 and then click on the menu option that says "Save Link Target As". That will allow you to type in a name of a file on your hard drive where you want to save the MP3 file. I keep a directory at c:\temp on my hard drive for saving files and then I can either delete them afterwards or move them to a more permanent directory. I hope that helps.

Message: 27344 Posted: Sun Apr 13 17:55:49 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Re: Dan Fogelberg New CD and Jeff Larson Sound Clips

RC, thanks for letting us know about Dan Fogelberg's new CD. I really love Dan's music. It's very relaxing to listen to.~~SteveL, thanks for the link to Jeff Larson's sound clips. They're really nice. I don't have any of Jeff's music, but have listened to most of his song clips and really enjoy them. I know quite a few of you are fans of his from the reading the posts and I can definitely see why. I'll have to get some of his CD's. I did have a problem, however when I downloaded the sound clips through Music Match. I was able to listen to them, and it indicated that they were saved on my C drive, under the directory that I wanted them to go to, but when I went to open the files later, they weren't there. I have saved other Music Match sound clips before with no problem. The day before I downloaded the Jeff Larson clips I downloaded an update from Music Match and I don't know if something isn't set right now. Did anyone else have this problem. Steve, do you have any insight into what I can do to be able to save the clips. I'd appreciate any help you can offer. Cathy

Message: 27343 Posted: Sun Apr 13 17:52:35 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Jeff's Latest MP3's...Steve L.

Do you have any opinions about the Opera browser?

I'm not familiar with that browser but I'm very happy with Netscape since they came out with version 7.0. Their version 6.0 was terrible and I refused to use it (I continued using version 4.92) but they finally got their act together with 7.0. Right now I'm using 7.02 and I'm very happy with it. The thing I like the most is that you can shut off the pop up windows which are becoming so prevalent (and obnoxious) on web sites these days.

Message: 27342 Posted: Sun Apr 13 17:46:08 2003 By: jeff brink
Subject: Re: Jeff's Mp3s, the Dark Side,& Saturday Night Fever

I've mentioned Jeff L.'s music on here enough that folks know I like it. I'd recommend his music to anyone that likes acoustic guitars, harmonies, great lyrics, and a unique voice. I must say that Jeff Foskett is a plus whenever he's doing B.G. vocals on Jeff L.'s songs.

Nancy, ...Didn't get to hear the first "Hazy sunshine" so I can't make a comparison. However, I did like the version I heard today.


Message: 27341 Posted: Sun Apr 13 17:43:09 2003 By: rc
Subject: Re: Jeff's Latest MP3's...Steve L.

Thanks for the info for netscape users. I avoid using explorer as much as Do you have any opinions about the Opera browser? Been tempted to download that one..

Message: 27340 Posted: Sun Apr 13 17:38:17 2003 By: rc
Subject: OT..Dan Fogelberg New CD

I know off topic lol but this for anyone interested..

Dan Fogelberg will be releasing his brand new studio record on May 20, 2003. It is called Full Circle. The new CD, which Dan also produced, contains 11 new songs, one of which is an instrumental. All but two were written by Fogelberg.

He is also touring this summer and you can find tour schedule at

Message: 27339 Posted: Sun Apr 13 17:16:48 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Jeff's Mp3s, the Dark Side,& Saturday Night Fever

Hi there Everyone ~~~ It is just starting to get dark here, and Mr Moon is about to make his presence known, the sky is still such a neat blue ocean, it has been like this all day, not a cloud insight, just white lines from the Jets going here and there... Hmmm a perfect Jeff Larson music day for sure! :)

Thanks Steve for posting Jeff's new mp3 Windblown Mind and this other version of Hazy day.... I like them both alot... Hazy kinda takes me away. Sounding good Jeff ~~ keep them new tunes a coming our way! :)

Well Hello there JeffB ~~ Nice to see a post from you, how have you been? Yes I had to smile to myself when I read Gen's post saying that she knew that Steve's post on Jeff L would be enough to let us hear from you.... I still find myself enjoying his CD sooo much, it is soo relaxing... I am listening to the clips now as I type this and I like the trumpet he added to Hazy Day ~~ wow kinda picks it up in a different way. Take care Jeff, don't stay away soo long next time! :)

Now come on Mo ~~ You had me CRACKING UP big time here, too much ~~ I'll let you in on a little secret.... Golf was on here too, after the race my hubby turned on the hockey game and then to the golf tournament.... too much... I find myself always feeling bad for these guys that are soo close to winning their first Masters tournament, and then get beat right at the end... they always show a pic of them awaiting their fame in this room with a tv where they sit and wait and watch... I didn't watch it anymore to see if Tiger Woods beat this guy in the waiting area... the movie StepMom was on TNT and that is more up my alley :) ~~ Don't you just love the part where they sing Ain't No Mountain Higher ~~ I do. I get up and sing along with them. I cry every single time I watch this movie, it sure has a way of pulling at my heart strings. ~~ I am sure Sheldon sent you the pics he got from our big night, his turned out good I thought. I gotta get up to my sisters, she wasn't home most of the weekend, soo it didn't work out for me to do this. Did you get yours back yet? Ooh and Mo it isn't much fun coming down from an AMERICA high and back to the every day reality Is It??? boooooo hooooooooo!!!!

WOW Gen ~~ I wanna come and spend some Saturday evenings there with you and your friends.... Your Saturday Night Fever is much more interesting than mine.... I went grocery shopping, spent way too much money, came home put the tons of stuff away, folded laundry, had Dick Barteley's Saturday Night Solid Gold on the radio... he was featuring songs by Elvis and the year of 1971.... I did hear God Only Knows & Good Vibrations, Brown Eyed Girl, Sooner or Later ~ by the Grass Roots, Jumpin Jack Flash, Orleans Dance With Me, and lots more... I tried calling in to request they play Moondance, by Van Morrison, but couldn't get through... Darnit anyway! ~~ I do sing along with all of these great oldies, and instead of wine, I have my hot raspberry tea with some cranberry juice and Razzmatazz in it.... and then you wanna know what happens after I drink that ~~ I fall fast to sleep ~~ Yep I do, soo how about that for an exciting Satuday Fever... ooooh yeah the closest I can get to leaving the fever part there, my youngest son was sick most of the day yesterday.... soooo that is where the fever part comes in.... Oooooooh welll, life is basically good, could be better at times, but I won't complain as long as I have my music..... and good times with friends! ~~ Oooh yes I did get your email, thanks a bunch, I too know about the cyberman grabbing some for himself to read, that happens alot to me at times too. Take care Gen :) Keep on having fun, singing some great songs and enjoying fun times with your friends.

Now Red behave yourself!!!!! ~~ I will say the mind is a terrible thing! Hmmmm ~~ My inquiring mind is wondering what your Saturday Night Fever consists of .... and is there any videos that have captured this soo that we can take it in. Too much, I can always hope, Can't I.... ;) ~~~ a fantabolous night for a Moondance, a fantablous night for making romance ~~~~ :) Grab ahold of the Mrs and swirl her around the room a time or two ~~ Okay? :)

Hmmm one last thing regarding Kenny Loggins, I do enjoy alot of his songs, and I did watch his live by request show on A&E, it was really good, I can still hear him singing his song Carry Me Home.... his Return to Pooh Corner has been played here many atime and Meet me Halfway, and the song from Top Gun as well... I too think it would be neat to see him in a show with AMERICA... Maybe he could join them and sing The Last Unicorn... that would be neat! :)

Take care all, Nitey Night..... Nancy :)

~~~ it's another day, a hazy sunshine.... and I know, I know, I'll find my way, it comes within these hours of the dayyyy yeah~~~~~ Sing it Jeff :) :) :)

Message: 27338 Posted: Sun Apr 13 15:46:57 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Saturday Night Fever

I forgot to add, did u do any belly dancing? Did they wrap those castanets around you, also? Tapes of this aren't going to end up in "French Women Gone Bad" are they? I guess I can always hope, can't I.

The mind is a terrible thing...........

Message: 27337 Posted: Sun Apr 13 15:39:11 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Saturday Night Fever

You always rule Gin(I mean Gen)! So glad you had a good time. BTW, were there any secret tapes made of this momentous occasion? I wouldn't mind seeing that.......... Night fever, Night fever......

Message: 27336 Posted: Sun Apr 13 15:07:51 2003 By: jeff brink
Subject: Re: Jeff's Latest MP3's

Genevieve, you're very perceptive. Today was the first time I was able to hear (thanks to Steve) the clips. Both songs are great...but "windblown mind" really jumped up and bit me! I have small computer speakers but I'm sure there is a mandolin on that song and that suits me fine.


Message: 27335 Posted: Sun Apr 13 14:56:37 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Jeff's Latest MP3's

Hey Jeff, soooo nice to hear from you again ! We've missed you here but somehow I knew that Steve's reference to J. Larson's new sound clips would make you drop a line or two here on the folder. What do you think of the new arrangements (at the end) for 'Hazy Sunshine" ?

Message: 27334 Posted: Sun Apr 13 14:48:16 2003 By: jeff brink
Subject: Re: Jeff's Latest MP3's

Thank you Steve for making it possible to hear Jeff's soundclips. "Windblown mind" caught my ear immediately! My wife's too.


Message: 27333 Posted: Sun Apr 13 14:43:14 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: The Dark Side

How spooky!

<<What next?>> What about free-style wrestling ? Depending on the weight category maybe, but they have funny 'par terre' positions and some interesting rules such as elimination for passivity, for intentionally leaving the mat or for continually blocking the holds of the opponent... But golf is not bad either, after all ! :-)

Message: 27332 Posted: Sun Apr 13 14:00:38 2003 By: Moser
Subject: The Dark Side

I've gone to the dark side. I'm watching golf on TV and actually getting into it. What's next, fishing shows? Help me.

Message: 27331 Posted: Sun Apr 13 12:25:53 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Re: "God Only Knows"

I think "God Only Knows" is one of the all-time most beautiful songs, ever!!

Message: 27330 Posted: Sun Apr 13 11:47:08 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Saturday Night Fever

Where's that video camera when you need it most?

Message: 27329 Posted: Sun Apr 13 10:59:23 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Saturday Night Fever

Just wanted to tell you about the wonderful saturday night party my friends and I had last night. Having a piano, three guitars and two Spanish castanets players, we decided to sing our own, very special versions of some fave songs ( well it was quite late and the wine-produced locally btw - was really good ). I did a "fantastic" (ROTFL) cover of 'She's Gonna Let You Down'. I do think the castanets brought a lot to the song :-)... My only regret : noone thought of recording the 'show'. But I'm still convinced the "Guys" would have been proud of me... or maybe not ? :-D
Red,YOU would have been proud of me AT LEAST! ( I did rule...)

Message: 27328 Posted: Sun Apr 13 10:42:05 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: "God Only Knows"

Bruce, you definitely got GREAT musical tastes, man ! Gen

Message: 27327 Posted: Sun Apr 13 09:13:28 2003 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: Opinions etc.

Genevieve, I certainly didn't take anything as a personal attack! I've told my friends that I'm the hardest person to ever try to offend- I just felt bad that I posted that about Loggins--anyway, I'm constantly entertained by this chat board- what a bunch of characters (me included of course!) And to think you're sitting there in Europe and me in New York City doing this- amazing! Hey Johnny, let's get real. NO ONE is or will ever be America. And that's why all of us are here! Well, I'm off to walk my Brittany on this beautiful Spring day. "God Only Knows" is on the CD player right now. Now, is there anyone out there who thinks THAT is not GREATNESS?

Message: 27326 Posted: Sun Apr 13 08:54:29 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Kenny Loggins

Bruce ~ You said, "How could ANYONE compare these guys to America?"

I'm sorry, I was only comparing Kenny Loggins' popularity to America's. Since you mentioned comparing "these guys", perhaps you were thinking I meant Loggins and Messina as a duo. Like you, I never cared much for them, and I don't think their music stands up any where/way close to America's. I do think though that Loggins has put out some very good music as a solo artist...not so good that I've ever bought a single piece of his work.

(Sergio ~ Your comments about Loggins pretty well sums it up for me. Plus, anyone that has had a couple of television music specials, has to be quite popular in my opinion...not to forget about appearing on A&E's "Live By Request" like Loggins has.)

Message: 27325 Posted: Sun Apr 13 08:34:37 2003 By: KevinS.
Subject: New music.

I intend to pick up the new Poco CD. I've always been a fan. But, for anyone looking for the most amazing CD you'll hear in a long time, pick up the new one from the Jayhawks called Rainy Day Music. If you like bands like, say, America, or CSN, or Matthew Sweet, or the Eagles earlier stuff, or Ellis Paul, or John Lennon, then you will absolutely love this CD. It's a gem. In fact, Matthew Sweet co-wrote one song and fills in on backing vocals on a few others. And founding-Eagle Bernie Leadon pops up on a song or two. Best of all, it was produced by Ethan Johns who is not only the son of early Eagles producer Glyn Johns but is the best producer alive right now. (Hint, hint, America.) The Jayhawks, Rainy Day Music. If you're mowing the lawn right now, or grouting tile, or making sweet sweet love, or perhaps even on the internet, stop what you're doing and go buy this CD. If you are not 100% satisfied with it, then something must be serious wrong with you. Consult a physician immediately.


Message: 27324 Posted: Sun Apr 13 08:21:25 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re:Not That There's Anything Wrong With That!

<<This is certainly a board with many different opinions, and that's what makes it interesting.>>

Bruce, did I say anything that made you think I had a different view about the board? The various opinions that we feel free to express here are open to debate, aren't they? I was too expressing MY opinion and now I'm the one to feel sorry if you took it as a personal attack. I don't care that much for Loggins either but we simply can't pretend the guy is an obscure musician with a couple of hits. But maybe I'm wrong or I just didn't catch the point in the posts I've read? Sometimes it's better not to read between the lines. So, let's express ourselves!!! :-)

Message: 27323 Posted: Sun Apr 13 08:14:22 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Jeff's Latest MP3's

Jeff Larson's web site has been updated with a couple of new MP3 soundclips. They are excellent songs which is just what I would expect from Jeff. Click here to go to Jeff's web page. One caveat, if you're like me and use Netscape, you won't be able to navigate the web site nor listen to the soundclips. It requires the latest version of Microsoft's Internet Explorer. If you fall into that category, here are a couple of direct links to the MP3's so you can listen to them.

Hazy Sunshine (early mix 2)
Windblown Mind (early acoustic mix)

Message: 27322 Posted: Sun Apr 13 06:41:30 2003 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: Not That There's Anything Wrong With That!

Genevieve, you certainly have a valid point re Kenny Loggins. This is just MY opinion. I'm sure he has millions of fans around the world and among the folks here, so I apologize if I offended anyone. Is it just me or doesn't it seem that there are lots of posts from people always wondering if they've offended someone? This is certainly a board with many different opinions, and that's what makes it interesting. I mean, it would be pretty boring if every post just said "I Love America"! I'll never forget that Seinfeld episode where they said "not that there's anything wrong with that". It seems that that's become a classic line. So as far as Kenny Loggins, or Loggins & Messina, although I don't care for them, lots of people really like them, not that there's anything wrong with that! There! I feel better now! =)

Message: 27321 Posted: Sun Apr 13 06:04:58 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Concert in August


I would have to agree with you, unfortunately Kenny Loggins is probably a more recognizable name, not only has he charted hits deeper into the 90's, he's had a more consistent momentum of widespread popularity throughout his career, which would make him a more recognizable name. I personally think both acts are hugely talented and will make an awesome combo concert. I saw Kenny Loggins here in New Orleans back in 1982 and it was a memorable concert.

A few of my favorites that one could add to the list of his memorable songs are "Vahevala" (Loggins & Messina), "A Love Song" (Loggins & Messina),"What a Fool Believes" (With Michael McDonald),"Keep the Fire","Celebrate Me Home", and "Your Mama Don't Dance" (Loggins & Messina).

Hope everybody is having a great weekend,


Message: 27320 Posted: Sun Apr 13 01:43:21 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Trivia Answer & "Pretty Princess"

Thanks very much Johnny ! Very helpful indeed ! Thank you for digging out this album title I was looking for. I spent an hour or so last night searching for the old tape thinking it would be among the rest, but with no success. Your mentioning 'Native Sons' reminded me of the song with the same title on the LP : a very moving, sad track about father & son relationships (a man who'd been called for - in order to see his dying dad one last time after years of absence - arrives too late...). Think I'll try to find a cd copy of the opus one of these days.

Hello Bruce, sorry but I have to disagree with you about Loggins. As seen from here (Europe I mean) he too belongs to the American music legend, although he's perhaps less popular than Messina AND America. Maybe the guys are happy to open for him anyway. Who knows?

Message: 27319 Posted: Sat Apr 12 20:16:23 2003 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: Kenny Loggins

<<Unfortunately, I think an overwhelming number of people in the general public would recognize Kenny Loggins' name before they would America's>> How sad a statement Johnny, how sad! How could ANYONE compare these guys to America? I mean, other than "Danny's Song", I can't think of anything by them I'd want to hear again.

Message: 27318 Posted: Sat Apr 12 17:33:56 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Trivia Answer & "Pretty Princess"

Kade ~ Yes! Indeed it was "The Last Unicorn". I'm not sure though that my reference of the song as a "cover" by both America and Kenny Loggins is absolutely correct. Maybe someone knows for sure who performed it first...whether America, Loggins, or someone else. I think we all know, of course, that the song was written by Gerry and Dewey's friend Jimmy Webb.

Gen ~ According to some research, "Pretty Princess" is indeed a song sung by Loggins and Messina as you mentioned. It was written by MacLeod and Messina. The song appears on two of their albums (Loggins & Messina's, that is). One's from their 1976 release titled, "Native Sons". The other LP was "Finale" which was from a double record set released in 1977. The song was 6 minutes and 57 seconds. Hope that helps! :0)

Message: 27317 Posted: Sat Apr 12 15:18:05 2003 By: Whit
Subject: Concert in April

Hey Jimnak, what's happenin'? I would love to join you in Irvine in a couple of weeks. Too far from Texas to travel but once. This time is for the kids and wife. They are really excited. Could be the time at Disneyland, Universal Studios, etc. Of course, I know they are ready to see AMERICA in concert. See ya, Whit

Message: 27316 Posted: Sat Apr 12 15:09:36 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Pretty Princess

Hi everyone.
Hey guys, one question : isn't the song 'Pretty Princess' (that I used to be crazy about as a teen) a K. Loggins / J. Messina title? Someone had taped it for me from a Lp, but I wonder if it has been released on cd since I can't remember the exact album name. If anyone can help me exhume my youth? LOL

Hi Nancy,
did u finally get that lost e-mail I re-sent? Let me know... Have a nice week-end everyone!

Message: 27315 Posted: Sat Apr 12 14:36:52 2003 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Concert in August

Hey don't forget AMERICA outdoors in Irvine (30 min. from LALA) California, Saturday 4/26. I think AMERICA on the main stage at 5pm. Ripping thru in the California sunshine.

Message: 27314 Posted: Sat Apr 12 13:22:37 2003 By: Kade
Subject: Re: Concert in August

Johnny...Sorry I spelled your name wrong...I didn't proofread my response and it showed!! Kade

Message: 27313 Posted: Sat Apr 12 13:20:31 2003 By: Kade
Subject: Re: Concert in August

Hi Jonny! I think I have the answer to your trivia question... The Last Unicorn!!?

Message: 27312 Posted: Sat Apr 12 13:09:51 2003 By: Whit
Subject: Re: Concert in August

Johnny, you are right. I do remember a few Loggin's hits, especially those movie sound tracks.

Hi Nancy, thanks for the good vibes. Still need luck tho, I haven't got the tix yet! Scary. This show could sell out quick. Keep your fingers crossed for us. The tix go on sale tomorrow @ 10:00 west coast time. I'll have to be quick on the keyboard.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend all my fellow fans, Whit

Message: 27311 Posted: Sat Apr 12 12:41:27 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Concert in August

Whit ~ I know you'll enjoy the shows at the Greek Theatre!

Cathy and Nancy ~ Unfortunately, I can't get the sound to play on my computer. It would be nice to hear the Poco song you two are talking about. Oh well, maybe I'll come across the CD at a garage/yard sale. I do have at least two Poco LPs from the distant past.

A "couple" of HUGE Kenny Loggins hits plus some: I'm Alright (Theme song from 'Caddyshack'); Conviction Of The Heart; This Is It; Whenever I Call You Friend; Footloose (from the motion picture, of course); Return To Pooh Corner; Danger Zone (song from the movie "Top Gun"); Whenever I Call You Friend.

Unfortunately, I think an overwhelming number of people in the general public would recognize Kenny Loggins' name before they would America's.

Trivia Question: Name the one song that BOTH America and Kenny Loggins have covered.

Message: 27310 Posted: Sat Apr 12 12:14:14 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Running Horse CD & A little more

Hi Everyone ~~ Finally the Sun & Nice Blue eyed skies are here in PA. Well I survived my deja vous work mess and got my son's loan forms all done for his move to the NYCC College. ~~ Whew! What a relief! :)

Hi HarryO ~~ Thanks alot for the info on POCO. I am taking another listen to the If Your Heart clip now ~~ Hmmm sooo Rusty Young sings this one, and I see he is one of the original POCO members too. He sure has a nice voice, had me thinking it was Timothy B, soo it has to be that familiar POCO sound I am hearing in this song.~~ Hmmmm all in all some really nice strong vocals here on these 4 clips, I like them alot! ~~~ Hmmm My inquiring mind is wondering if POCO is doing any shows this summer and it would be great to see them do a show with either the Eagles or AMERICA.

Hey there Whit ~~ Good to hear, you got tics for this AMERICA show with Kenny Loggins ~~~ thats oughta make for a nice combination. Sooo your countdown has begun, just a little over 4 months till your big day. :) ~~~ Hmmm nice to hear your kids know the words to AMERICA's songs!

Hi Hooooooooo there Red ~~ I hope you too are having a Fantabolous weekend!

Hi ShariL ~~~ Nice that you too will be taking in another AMERICA show at the Humphrey's. Neat you will get to see Firefall as well, I really like them alot. ~~~ Only 2 more months till your big day, be sure and let us hear all about it Okay!

Hi Johnny & Cathy ~~ thanks for the Phil Hartmann trivia bit, and yes his added vocals on Gerry's Van Go Gan are quite convincing for sure!

Hi Erin ~~ Neat a band called Rain ~~ There is a Beatles Revisited group coming to one of our local vendors here next month, I will have to check this out to see if it is this same band.

Take care all and enjoy the rest of your weekend, I hope to get up to my sisters and get those pics for the IUP show to Steve soon. ~~~ Ooooh Yes I also wanted to mention this ~~ My son came home from college last night and brought a newspaper article for me that was in the day after the AMERICA show... It started off my saying the Fisher Auditorium was jam-packed with people from all ages- from teenagers to parents - all to see AMERICA. A Sophmore student remarked "To tell you the truth, I think those guys rocked out. I didn't expect guys that age to play so well." It seems the students asked all agreed the best performed song was "Sister Golden Hair" and it seems they interpreted the HWNN as an April Fools Joke..... The band ended with a little April Fools joke, leaving the stage after the performance of Sister Golden Hair. Then came out for the last performance of "A Horse With No Name." this article ended with those familiar loved words "Always remember AMERICA loves you! Take care" said Bunnell & Beckley as they left the stage for the night. ~~ Nice :) See ya, Nancy :)

~~~~ won't you save this dance for me, and I will lead for you, God has gave me once last chance, before my life is through, and in your arms when the music stops is where I want to be, soo tell him No, and save this dance for me ~~~ Sing it David Gates (Save this Dance For Me) ~~~ Nice song :) :) :)

Message: 27309 Posted: Sat Apr 12 11:51:58 2003 By: Whit
Subject: Re: Concert in August

Good point red! It seems odd to me that AMERICA is opening for Kenny instead of the other way 'round. We are going to see our guys, if I recognize any of Kenny's stuff, I will stay. See ya, Whit

Message: 27308 Posted: Sat Apr 12 10:48:05 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Concert in August

Name more than 2 of Kenny's songs that u know. I rest my case.

Message: 27307 Posted: Sat Apr 12 10:36:53 2003 By: Whit
Subject: Concert in August

Hey Johnny, just a note to say we are going to try to get tickets to the concert August 16 @ Greek Theater in L.A. Our guys are going to open for Kenny Loggins. Should be a great concert! Quite a bit further than OKC would have been, but the kids really want to see AMERICA in concert. They know all the words already! Hvae a great weekend, Whit

Message: 27306 Posted: Sat Apr 12 09:15:07 2003 By: HarryO
Subject: Re: Running Horse CD

Here's some info on Poco's current line-up:

Rusty Young - guitar, pedal steel guitar, dobro, banjo, vocals (original member)
Paul Cotton - lead guitar, vocals (joined in 1970 replacing Jim Messina)
Jack Sundrud - bass guitar, vocals (off and on since around 1987)
George Grantham - drums, vocals (original member)

"Never Loved...Never Hurt Like This" - sung by Jack Sundrud
"If Your Heart Needs a Hand" - sung by Rusty Young
"Everytime I hear That Train" - sung by Paul Cotton
"If You Can't Stand To Lose" - sung by Rusty Young

Message: 27305 Posted: Sat Apr 12 06:47:55 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Re: Running Horse CD

Johnny, check out those Poco clips if you get a chance. Timothy B is probably too involved with the Eagles right now, but the voice on the one clip sounds like him.~~That was an interesting bit of trivia re: Phil Hartmann. I always enjoyed him on Saturday Night Live. He is so funny on Gerry's Van Go Gan CD too.

Message: 27304 Posted: Fri Apr 11 21:21:28 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Running Horse CD

I haven't visited the Poco website, but according to the All Music Guide, there is no mention of Timothy B in the vocal credits.

A bit of trivia: The original designer of Poco's "running horse" figure was the same designer of a number of America's album covers...the late Phil Hartmann.

Message: 27303 Posted: Fri Apr 11 18:59:15 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Re: Running Horse CD

SteveL, thanks for the link to the Poco site. I listened to the sound clips and I really like them. Nancy, the one song does sound like it might be Timothy singing. I wonder if it is him. He's my favorite Eagle. Have a great weekend everyone. Cathy

Message: 27302 Posted: Fri Apr 11 14:50:21 2003 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: HI

Hi, everyone. Finally checking in after quite an absence. Not enough time to do anything but check email.
Got my tickets for America at Humphrey's By the Bay in San Diego for June 8. Firefall is opening for them - that could be good. I really like them.
Hope everyone is well. Take care, all. ShariL in San Diego

Message: 27301 Posted: Fri Apr 11 10:26:33 2003 By: Erin
Subject: Re: TGIF

This is kind of off topic...we saw a great show last night. A Beatles tribute band called Rain. Amazing show...if anyone ever gets the chance, go see them. Awesome music, sets, lighting, etc...

Hope you all have a great weekend!

Erin :o)

Message: 27300 Posted: Fri Apr 11 07:14:02 2003 By: red oak
Subject: TGIF

Hope everyone has a fantastic Friday & a Fantabulous weekend. Supposed to be around 80 this weekend here in Big D. Gals, try these role reversal ideas out on your man over the weekend:

If women ruled..

Women with cold hands would give men prostate exams.

PMS would be a legitimate defense in court.

Men would get reputations for sleeping around.

'Singles' bars would have metal detectors to weed out men hiding wedding rings in their pockets.

A man would no longer be considered a `good catch' simply because he is breathing.

Fewer women would be dieting because their ideal weight standard would increase by 20 kg.

Shopping would be considered an aerobic activity.

Men would not be allowed to eat gas-producing foods within two hours of bedtime.

Men would be secretaries for female bosses, working twice as hard for none of the credit.

Little girls would read Snow White and the Seven Hunks.

Men would bring drinks, chips and dips to women watching soap operas.

Men would have to get Playboy for the articles, because there would be no pictures.

Men would learn phrases like: `I'm sorry,' `I love you,' `Sure we can talk. Is now okay?'

Men would be judged entirely by their looks, women by their accomplishments.

Men would wonder what WE are thinking.

Men would pay as much attention to their woman as their computer.

Road rage would turn in on oneself.

Men would work on relationships as much as they work on their careers.

Men would divide up chores with women so WOMEN could be horny.

TV news segments on sport would never run longer than one minute.

All men would be forced to spend one month in a PMS simulator.

During mid-life crisis, men would get hot flushes and women would date 19-year-olds.

Overweight men would have their weight brought to their attention constantly.

After a baby is born, men would take six weeks paternity leave to wait on their wives hand and foot.

For basic training, soldiers would have to take care of a two year-old for six weeks.

The mind is a terrible thing......

Message: 27299 Posted: Fri Apr 11 06:54:44 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: America songs at Disneyland? (Vic)

Exactly Vic ~ "Sunrise Sunset". Good goin'!

Message: 27298 Posted: Thu Apr 10 23:59:01 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: America songs at Disneyland?

Johnny, I think you were looking for:

"L.A. earthquake
Midnight ground shake",
from "Sunrise Sunset".

Message: 27297 Posted: Thu Apr 10 14:54:21 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: America songs at Disneyland?

Thanks for crediting me with the explanation, sometimes Dewey's lyrics make you say "huh?"

BTW, I usually find that when someone makes a remark with the codicil that they mean no offense that someone WILL be offended. I understood that you were going for the joke, but the stereotype that all the people in Hollywood are fluff and without substance makes me wonder why these people have such an effect on popular culture.
Just food for thought.

or fodder for the folder.

Message: 27296 Posted: Thu Apr 10 13:57:54 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Running Horse CD

Thanks for the link, Steve. Had a listen to the 4 sound clips and found them rather good. "Never Loved...Never Hurt Like This" sounds really nice - a slow, touching song...

Message: 27295 Posted: Thu Apr 10 12:24:59 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Spice of Life, Running Horse clips & Belated Birthday wishes!

Hi there Everyone ~~ A Nice But oooooooooh sooooo CRAZY Day here for me.... sooo just a short post, before back to Reality! :)

Ooooooooh Red eeeeee Oaaaaaak ~~ You are 2much for sure! Thanks for the SMILES that erased the stressful lines on my face today! Now I can get back to my deja vous mess that my work has been the last couple of days. ~~ You even managed to hit a couple of nails right on the head. LOL!!!!! AMEN I say ! :)

Hi Mary ~~~~ Oooooooh darn, I was thinking your birthday was next week and then I read your email.... I am sooo sorry! Sooo I just want to say Happy Belated Birthday my friend, hey you may have only taken the trash out on your special day, but just hold on to this thought Okay.... "The Best is Yet to Come, the Best is Yet to Be" Keep on thinking about the show this summer and you too will get the chance to have your Dream Come True too..... Soo till then, I wish you all that makes you happiest. ~~~ Somewhere over the rainbow, where pretty little bluebirds fly, the dreams you dare to dream, really do come true~~~~ :) Sorry you couldn't make it to live chat last night, we missed you....

Thanks Steve ~~ I went to the Poco sight and got the clips... Hey they are good, I like them alot.... I am wondering if I am hearing Timothy on this one song clip ~~ If Your Heart~~ Hmmm has me soo curious... I like the lyrics and the music is catchy for sure! :)

Hi Nina ~~ My daughter watched the Puzzle Place ssoooooooooooo much, and yes I remember Ben, he was kinda shy but very thoughtful and well recieved.... I'm not sure if he ever played any music or not... I know there was a show about the Indian one.... Star I think his name was that was focused on music..... I found myself watching it right along with my daughter..... Too much! :)

Hi Cathy , Gen & Linda :)

Hey there DanC ~~ Did I miss you at live chat again? I got on around 10:30.... I saw your post and wondered if you stopped in live chat before I got there.... Take care and keep on Smiling!! Hmmm does the Mailman ever ring 3 times???? :)

Take care and enjoy the rest of your day all, back to my work now!
See ya Nancy :)

~~~ its a whirlwind caught in an empty jar, it steals your breathe if you fall too hard, it picks you up right off the ground, and it tears you up when it lets you down, and there's nothing you can do, Love can be sooo cruel, but if your Heart ~~~ Sing it TOTO ~~ Yes I am liking this more and more! :) :) :) :) ;)

Message: 27294 Posted: Thu Apr 10 10:37:41 2003 By: Linda
Subject: Re: The Answer to These and Many Other Questions...

Mo, yep, that was probably my friend and me that you saw taking pictures of those huge screens. The first time I saw Dewey and Gerry up there, I think my heart skipped a few beats. Those two definitely still have what it takes! Dewey was right, we did have the trip from hell, but it was well-worth it. I loved that shower, too! The whole room was incredible, but we didn't even spend enough time in there to turn the fireplace on.

A few of you mentioned how you enjoyed my pilots story....I forgot to add something. You know how there's that little pause between "all the planes have been" and "grounded"? The pilot and my friend joined in when we got to "grounded." Funny how those little things still bring a smile to my face.

Now I need to get busy and figure out how I'll be able to get to the Madison, WI concert. Since it's only about an hour's drive from here, I doubt that I'll have any interesting travel stories. Of course I'd rather have some meeting Dewey and Gerry stories, anyway.

You're a great group of fans. While I don't post much, I try to read all the posts, and I feel like I know many of you already. Hope to meet some of you at future concerts.

Message: 27293 Posted: Thu Apr 10 10:15:54 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Running Horse CD

I know that this is the America Fans chat folder but we sometimes talk about other groups that are similar to America. I think that the group Poco falls into that category and they have recently released a new CD called "Running Horse". I have listened to a few soundclips from the CD and it sounds pretty good. I just wanted to make the rest of you aware of it in case you were interested. You can click on the graphic below to read about the CD and to listen to the soundclips yourself.

Message: 27292 Posted: Thu Apr 10 09:31:19 2003 By: Mary Henderson
Subject: Re: Ecumenical Humor (Red )

AMEN!!!, Red. Loved all your messages. One the first one, all of them sound pretty good to me. i agree with Mo, but it has to be DEWEY, DEWEY, DEWEY!!!!! Take care. Mary

Message: 27291 Posted: Thu Apr 10 07:10:46 2003 By: Nina
Subject: Look alikes

Speaking of Gerry looking a tad like "Schroeder" from Charlie Brown prompts a memory. There was a children's show TV on a few years ago called "The Puzzle Place" and there was a puppet character on that show that always reminded me of Gerry. The character's name was "Ben", and he had blond, blond hair and rounded glasses and a sweet smile. Don't know what happened to the show, but my nephew still has his "Ben" doll tucked away in his toy bin, under a million action figures. My niece calls the doll "Gerry", and fishes him out of the bin everytime I I can hold him! (I don't remember "Ben" playing the piano ,though, like Schroeder!)

Message: 27290 Posted: Thu Apr 10 07:00:05 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Ecumenical humor

Even God enjoys a good laugh:

There are 3 good arguments that Jesus was Black:
1. He called everyone "brother".
2. He liked Gospel.
3. He couldn't get a fair trial.

But, then there are 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Jewish:
1. He went into his Father's business.
2. He lived at home til he was 33.
3. He was sure his Mother was a virgin and his Mother was sure he was God.

Then there are 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Italian:
1. He talked with his hands.
2. He had wine with every meal.
3. He uses olive oil.

But, then there are 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was a Californian.
1. He never cut his hair.
2. He walked around barefoot all the time.
3. He started a new religion.

Then there are 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Irish:
1. He never got married.
2. He was always telling stories.
3. He loved green pastures.

But, the most compelling evidence of all, 3 proofs that Jesus was a woman.
1. He fed a crowd at a moment's notice when there was no food.
2. He kept trying to get a message across to a bunch of men who just didn't get it.
3. And even when he was dead, He had to get up because there was more work to do. Amen!!!

Can I get an Amen.

Message: 27289 Posted: Thu Apr 10 06:33:34 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: windwave (Mark)

Mark ~ Actually, the credit for stating the meaning of "the land of the dumb but the pretty," goes to Ms. Robyn. I merely mentioned the lyric in jest as meaning actors and actresses in Hollywood. "Thanks a lot, 'Mark', just the same." <---- an altered lyric from "VH" of course.

(There's numerous America lyrics that are puzzling. It might be fun to discuss which ones are. But then again, maybe not.)

Message: 27288 Posted: Thu Apr 10 06:31:29 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Why Women are the Lucky Sex

I know some of you out there in America land(and you know who you are) will appreciate these little ditties:

The lucky sex

1. We got off the Titanic first.

2. We can scare male bosses with mysterious gynecological disorder excuses.

3. We never ejaculate prematurely.

4. We get to flirt with systems support men who always return our calls and are nice to us when we blow up our computers.

5. When we buy a vibrator it's glamorous. When men buy a blowup doll, it's pathetic.

6. Our boyfriend's clothes make us look elfin and gorgeous. Guys look like complete idiots in ours.

7. We can be groupies. Male groupies are stalkers.

8. We can cry and get off speeding fines.

9. We've never lusted after a cartoon character or the central figure in a computer game.

10. Taxis stop for us.

11. Men die earlier, so we get to cash in on the life insurance.

12. We don't look like a frog in a blender when dancing.

13. Free drinks, free dinners, free moving (you get the point?).

14. We can hug our friend without wondering if she thinks we're gay.

15. We know the truth about whether size matters.

16. New lipstick gives us a whole new lease on life.

17. If we have sex with someone and don't call the next day, we're not the devil.

18. Condoms make no significant difference in our enjoyment of sex.

19. We can sleep our way to the top.

20. Nothing crucial can be cut off with one clean sweep.

21. It's possible to live our whole lives without ever taking a group shower.

22. No fashion faux pas we make could rival Speedos.

23. We don't have to fart to amuse ourselves.

24. If we cheat on our spouse, people assume it's because we're being emotionally neglected.

25. We never have to wonder if his orgasm was real.

26. If we forget to shave, no one has to know.

27. We can congratulate our teammate without ever touching her arse.

28. If we have a zit, we know how to conceal it.

29. We never have to reach down every so often to make sure our privates are still there.

30. If we're dumb, some people will find it cute.

31. We have an excuse to be a total bitch at least once a month.

32. We can talk to people of the opposite sex without having to picture them naked.

33. If we marry someone 20 years younger, we're aware that we look like an idiot.

34. Our friends won't think we're weird if we ask whether there's spinach in our teeth.

35. There are times when chocolate really can solve all your problems.

36. Gay waiters don't make us uncomfortable.

37. We'll never regret piercing our ears.

38. We can fully assess a person just by looking at their shoes.

The mind is a terrible thing...........

Message: 27287 Posted: Thu Apr 10 05:13:56 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: "Hope" to Meet Schroeder (LOL)

One for you, Moser, as a complement to Johnny's pic...

I love the July 18 1959 story entitled ' With Lucy'...

Message: 27286 Posted: Thu Apr 10 04:57:58 2003 By: Moser

1. Looks like Schroeder.
2. Looks like Schroeder.
3. Looks like Schroeder.
4. Looks like Schroeder.
5. Looks like Schroeder.
6. Has a sense of humor.
7. Can sew on a button.
8. Knows he is cute.
9. Has a nice...butt.
10. Looks like Schroeder.

Message: 27285 Posted: Wed Apr 09 23:16:24 2003 By: Genevieve

1. Sense of humor
2. Intelligence
3. Nonsmoker
4. Sensitivity
5. Being committed
6. Being caring
7. Being compassionate
8. Attractiveness
9. Warmth
10. Maturity
Q. Why is it so hard for women to find men that have those qualities?
A. Because those "men" already have boyfriends.

Don't remember who said :"Love may make the world go around but it's laughter that keeps us from getting dizzy."

Message: 27284 Posted: Wed Apr 09 20:45:47 2003 By: msmith
Subject: windwave

erin--yes, i agree. hearing windwave live is a special experience. aside from hearing woodsy play the plastic drinking cups on that song is the added benefit that windwave is usually accompanied by 'another try'. ...and johnny thanks for the dumb but the pretty explaination. i never really understood that phrase in that song.

Message: 27283 Posted: Wed Apr 09 19:10:17 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Different accents and phrases

Nancy, if you come to northeastern PA I won't ask if you would like a pop or a sodapop. We call it soda. It's interesting even within our own state the different phrasing and pronunciations. While visiting Pittsburgh once the people who live there also told me that they call rubber bands~~gum bands and that microfiche is pronounced fish, where on the eastern part of PA we pronounce it feesh. By the way, how long do some of you think I may have to stand IN line at the Hershey Park Amphitheatre to get a front row seat to the America show? Or should I say ON line? Cathy

Message: 27282 Posted: Wed Apr 09 18:22:06 2003 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Most admired men in a women's life

...and the Postman 'cause he always rings twice???DanC.

Message: 27281 Posted: Wed Apr 09 17:31:52 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: America songs at Disneyland?

Let me break it down into "simpler" terms for those who need it. Movie and television actors and actresses are often admired for their attractiveness and often thought of as being "not too bright". Therefore, in jest, I quoted Dewey's lyric, "...the land of the dumb but the pretty" as being Hollywood. Not literally, of course! Unless a person has been "living in the gap between the echoes" all of their life, he or she would know this...having heard this at one time or another OR intentionally choosing not to understand.

Of course, Dewey was referring to the land of animals as the land of the dumb but the pretty. Sighhhhhhhhhh

Message: 27280 Posted: Wed Apr 09 10:48:08 2003 By: Erin
Subject: wind wave

Just have to say that hearing Wind Wave live was amazing...that and All My Life.

Happy Wednesday.

Erin :o)

Message: 27279 Posted: Wed Apr 09 10:22:33 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: America songs at Disneyland?

I'm gonna grab a fishin' pole and a sleepin' bag roll
Head out for the land of the dumb but the pretty
I won't stay long but you never know

hmmm unless Dewey is planning on fishing in MacArthur Park< I seriously doubt that he was headed for Hollywood.

I always took the "dumb but pretty " line to refer to the animals who are "dumb" (mute) but pretty to look at.

As for California Stereotypes.....

Message: 27278 Posted: Wed Apr 09 07:33:38 2003 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: The Answer to These and Many Other Questions...

Moser, I certainly didn't take it as a put down at all.Just an observation on your part. I was just curious. One of those things that we hear all the time, be it on TV or from American visitors etc. I just don't hear it at all here on the west coast... but then again I probably say it all the time and just don't know it, eh?

Message: 27277 Posted: Wed Apr 09 07:22:54 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Most admired men in a women's life

During a womans life there are those men that are very important to the growth & stability in their lives. Here are some of the most important. Nancy, Mo, Gen and others see which one was most influential to you, hahahahaha........

Most important men

A womans most important men:

Who are the most important men in women’s' life:

The Doctor because he says take your clothes off.
The Dentist because he says open wide.
The Milkman because he says do you want it in front or back.
The Hair Dresser because he says do you want it teased or blown.
The Interior Designer because he says once it is in you will love it.
The Banker because he says if you take it out too soon you'll loose interest.

The mind is a terrible thing...............

Message: 27276 Posted: Wed Apr 09 06:47:12 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Casino Rama, Mich. shows, Fun Stats & some more

Hi Everyone ~~~ It's Wednesday ~~ rainy and dreary here.... but the birds are a singing and the bluebirds are still deciding which Bluebird box they will make their nest in. It's looking Greener! :)

Hi Linda ~~~ WOW thanks for telling us all about this topsy turvy twist of events that took place for your trip to Casino Rama. I love the part where you said the captain started singing AMERICA songs and you broke out with "Ain't it foggy outside, all the planes have been grounded" What a classic moment that had to be... Soo neat! :) It is ashame you missed the Saturday night show, good thing tho, there was a saturday one and that it was the one you had the better seats for... Nice that worked out! :) I hope you will post some of these extras that you took pics of there at the casino, sounds like you and your friend enjoyed taking in the venue for the simpler pleasures. Nice! Good to hear from you, keep on posting ok!

Hi there SteveO ~~~ WOW I am glad to see there are some shows coming your way ~~ Nice! I hope you will get to hear the long playlist! :)

Hey there jimdee ~~ Sorry, I meant to say Welcome to you yesterday in my post... my mind has been in a blurr this last week... I am slipping some! Sounds like you will be in for a fun time with your party of friends that are getting together for this NJ show, have a great time and be sure and let us hear all about it ok! :)

Hi Marshall ~~ I would love that getting to hear AMERICA songs on the loudspeaker while taking in some fun in the sun out there at this Calif.Adventure park.. Hmmmmm I heard the Border and Ventura Hwy. at our Del Grosso's water and amusement park last summer... I was smiling and singing for sure, made me feel right at home! ~~ I had a nice memory flashback too, I had seen Gerry & Dewey my first time in 1997 for a show, WOW the happy tears were flowing that day! ~~ Hey Mary ~~ I am sure you will be heading to the Calif Adventure park lots this summer ~~ Right? :) Emjoy :)

WOW Mo ~~ Those are some eye catching stats.... too much! Are you gonna be down from the clouds tonight to have some fun at the live chat, I hope soo, talk to you tonight! ~~ I gotta get up to my sisters and get my pics for the show sent to Steve... I can't wait to see the pics you got. :) ~~ I am still smiling at the Schroeder visual of Gerry ~~ too much! :) ~~

Hi Joan ~~ Hang in there, hopefully more shows will be scheduled and you will have one come your way there in Wis.... I know AM Girl,DanC & JoeB are anxious for them to come by Illinois's way soon. :)

Hi Vic ~~ Nice to hear from you, that is a pretty neat lyric line you came up with ~~~ Hmmmm is My American Dream the name of this song? and who sings it? Take care! :)

Good one Bones ~~ Yes the batteries do wear out, gotta make sure you always have new ones on hand, or use Rechargeable kind! Too much! :)

Hey Mo & John L ~~~ I just love getting to hear all of the neat little things that is added in conversations with people from here and there and everywhere.... all the different accents, all the different slang and twangs....and the different way words can mean different things from country to country. Adds a neat touch of honey to the taste! ~~ One that comes to my mind,is how we in PA say Doll~are, and our cousins in Ohio say dallar, we say pooooop they say sodapop (quickly), my cousin that grew up here in PA and then moved to Texas named her son after her hubby and calls him the first initials of his two names, she says it this way LllllllllllllBbbbbbbbbb,(Hey there Jimmmmmmbob are you smiling ;)?) I got the biggest kick how long she drawled it out,then on the other hand when she would reply back with get out, she said it short and to the point.... too much. :)

Hey Red is Nelleybelle having fun weaving in and out of all the College students that are hustling and bustling about their day? :)
Okay I gotta get for now, take care and have a good day! Nancy :)hmm the only Calif lyric I can think of is a well known BB song!

~~~~ I wish they all could beat California Girls~~~ and then ofcourse I have to mention this one ~~~~ Everyone I meet is from California, there's dancing in the streets in California ~~~ Sing it Dan, Dewey & Gerry :) :) :) :)

Message: 27275 Posted: Wed Apr 09 06:32:49 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: America songs at Disneyland?

Good one with "Horse," Vic! There's another California mention in one of Gerry's songs from "VGG". Can anyone find it?

Here's another one, but I want to preface it by saying I'm ONLY KIDDING. I know it's a stereotype so I don't mean ANY offense to anyone especially to my fellow America fans from California. It's just something we all hear on television from time-to-time in reference to Hollywood. I hope you all can see the humor in it. Again, no offense is intended:

I'm gonna grab a fishin' pole and a sleepin' bag roll
Head out for the land of the dumb but the pretty
I won't stay long but you never know

(Dewey's super-cool "Wind Wave")

Message: 27274 Posted: Wed Apr 09 05:51:52 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: The Answer to These and Many Other Questions...

Mr. Lussier,
I don't know if it's a northern, southern, eastern, or western Canadian thing. And I don't know if it's a stereotype. I do know that I heard it a lot and that I did so b/c it is unusual to my ear. It's usually used in a friendly way so for me to mention hearing it is not meant as a put down in any way. Hearing it and taking note of it when you are from somewhere else is not a bad thing. Similarly, if you go to Pittsburgh, I'm sure you would pick up on the colloquialisms there such as y'ans and loads of double negatives. Also, I've lived in Boston where there are plenty of local expressions from the slaughtering of r's where they should be (car=cah, park=pahk) and adding them where they should not be (idea=idear, china=chinar). All of which is "wicked cool" and only adds to the charm of the place. Geez, if we were all the same, what fun would that be?

Message: 27273 Posted: Tue Apr 08 23:29:21 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: America songs at Disneyland?

"My American Dream"
"And her heart is pure and true as any California gold"

"A Horse With No Name"

Message: 27272 Posted: Tue Apr 08 22:54:15 2003 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: The Answer to These and Many Other Questions...

So do we really say "eh" a lot or is it just one of those stereotypes that doesn't really exist? Or maybe it is more an Eastern Canada thing.

Message: 27271 Posted: Tue Apr 08 21:15:47 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Oh, And This One, Too

Another one of Gerry's:


How 'bout a tear for the torment and the trouble
That was brewing in the Asian way
I wore a smile like the faces that surround L.A.

(I bet there's a few more...maybe?)

Message: 27270 Posted: Tue Apr 08 21:06:42 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: America songs at Disneyland?

Marshall ~ At least two more. Both from "Alibi".


The yellow racin' dreamboats
On California air
Single engine cowboy
Out in county fair


Due to the situation this morning
All in the world's okay
I head down Sunset north to Santa Barbara
We sail away

Message: 27269 Posted: Tue Apr 08 20:40:42 2003 By: Moser
Subject: The Answer to These and Many Other Questions...

Nancy: Yes, I was talking about Schroeder from the Charlie Brown gang. You were on the right track.

Sergio: Yes, I have kept track of how many performances I've seen. Last year was the first time I ever saw them. My virgin show was on Feb. 7 at Seven Springs in Champion, PA. I saw them two more times last year. So far this year, I have seen them 5 times and hope for 2 or 3 more perhaps.

The fun stats for last week's birthday tour:
four shows
three venues
two countries
28.5 hours of driving
approximately 1700 miles on the road
got lost twice
survived one ice storm
so far no symptoms of SARS
heard the word "eh?" at the end of a sentence innumerable times
how many times wishing it wouldn't end, also innumerable
memories of the week, a lifetime's worth

Linda: Yes, that was Jeff and me on the left side of the stage in front of Schroeder. Yes, they were being very accommodating and posing a bit for me. Unfortunately, I think that shot was out of focus. I'm not the best photographer in the first place and with no flash, I'm extra bad at it. It's a digital pic so maybe I can sharpen it up a bit.
We talked to Dewey near the casino just after he talked to you guys, apparently, b/c he mentioned you to us and said you'd had the trip from hell. I thought we had a rough trip up there but nothing like yours I'm afraid. I think I may have seen you guys taking pictures of the Dewey and Gerry picture on the 7 jumbotron screens in the middle of the hotel hallway. Was that you and your friend? Funny, when I saw you doing that I had to laugh b/c I had done the same thing the night before!! What a great weekend, eh? Did you guys have the great glass shower in the bathroom? That was cool. Sorry, I'm smalltown. Some things just amaze me still.
Anyway, I'm glad you made it safely and got to the show. Maybe next time we'll get to meet up.

Message: 27268 Posted: Tue Apr 08 20:17:09 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: America songs at Disneyland?

From "Glad to See You" on the Holiday album:
Cars fighting their way
Out of L.A.
On a Sunday morning

From "Christmas in California" from the Holiday Harmony album:
Headin' on down the coast
Over surf and sand
The warm wind in his hair
Make no mistake, it's here
Holiday fun, good cheer
It's Christmas time again
In California, wo-oh

Those are the two that came to mind immediately. Any others?

Message: 27267 Posted: Tue Apr 08 20:05:41 2003 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: America songs at Disneyland?

Hey AMERICA did a long set of shows at California Adventure. All to packed crowds. Perhaps send in your requests at their Web site.
They listen to their customers ! AMERICA is set togo for another fine summer of shows around the country.

Message: 27266 Posted: Tue Apr 08 19:53:27 2003 By: Marshall
Subject: America songs at Disneyland?

I went to Disneyland last week as a chaperone for my son's high school music group. We had a great time. I really enjoyed the new Disneyland park, California Adventure. At the new park the loudspeakers play popular music that has anything relating to California or places in California. There was also a rock band that traveled around the park and played on the sidewalk, very good!
I heard Beach Boys, Jan and Dean, "Do you know the way to San Jose?", "California Dreamin'", etc.

But, I never heard the song "Ventura Highway"! It seemed so obvious that they should be playing that song. Or any other ones that refer to California. (How many can we name? Here goes. "Everyone I meet is from California", "Hollywood", "Barstow", any others?)

I'm wondering if JimNak or anyone else in Southern California knows how to contact Disneyland folks to suggest this?

Message: 27265 Posted: Tue Apr 08 19:30:35 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Gerry In His Youth

Click here to see the picture that Johnny was referring to.

Message: 27264 Posted: Tue Apr 08 18:20:29 2003 By: Bones
Subject: Re: What gender are they? (one for you Red!)

female... Ha! You thought I'd say male. But consider, it gives men
pleasure, he'd be lost without it, and while he doesn't always know the right buttons to push, he keeps trying :-)

and after a period of time, the batteries go dead.

Message: 27263 Posted: Tue Apr 08 17:51:25 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Gerry In His Youth

To see a prior posted picture of Gerry in his youth, go to:

1) The home page
2) Clip on "Photo Index" at the left of the screen
3) Select "Miscellaneous Photos" (3rd one from the top)
4) Scroll way down to "Miscellaneous" nearer the bottom and highlighted in red
5) Select "Brad Council's idea of....

LOL! Brad had the picture as part of his return address sticker on a letter he sent me a number of years ago. I forwarded it on to SteveL as part of something else America-related I sent him. That's "Young Gerry B" playing the piano as labeled by Brad. :0)

Message: 27262 Posted: Tue Apr 08 16:55:11 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Re: Casino Rama, Schroeder, This and That

Hi Moser, I enjoyed your review of the events at Casino Rama. Your posts can really get me laughing. Thanks, Mo. Such nice memories of your big birthday week. Sorry to hear that your neighbors and kids had such a rough time during that ice storm. We've been lucky that when our power has been out it usually isn't for too long. I don't recall any longer than about 24 hours, but it really makes you appreciate electricity. I've thought of Gerry as cute little Schroeder with his piano at times. I think the nickname fits him.~~Linda, glad you had a good time at the second show. Too bad you had such a hard time getting there and had to miss the first show. So nice that you had a chance to talk to Dewey. I'm sure this helped make up some for missing the first show.~~Genevieve and Red, I enjoyed your jokes. Cathy

Message: 27261 Posted: Tue Apr 08 16:07:49 2003 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Upper Michigan gigs June 13-14

The guys are playing at The Chip-In Casino in Harris,Michigan on June 13th & 14th. I'll be at the Friday gig. With luck it'll be the long show as they are only doing one show that night(but 2 on Saturday). Harris is about 35 miles from where I live in Iron Mountain-Kingsford here in Upper Michigan. Anybody else in this region that intends to go?

Message: 27260 Posted: Tue Apr 08 14:43:55 2003 By: Joan
Subject: More Wisconsin Venues

I am excited about the America concert at Luther's Blues in Madison, WI, but was wondering if there will be more bookings in Wisconsin. I hope this is a possibility! Green Bay, Oshkosh, Appleton, etc. I will keep watching the concert schedule.

Message: 27259 Posted: Tue Apr 08 13:02:59 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Casino Rama

Wow Linda! What a journey. Thanks for sharing that with us. I love the story with the airline pilots. It sounds like you had a great time in spite of missing the first show.

Ain't it foggy outside....

Message: 27258 Posted: Tue Apr 08 11:41:18 2003 By: Linda
Subject: Casino Rama

My friend and I decided we deserved a weekend away, and seeing America in Canada would make that weekend even better. Between the flight from Milwaukee and the drive from Toronto, it should take us about 3 hours to get there. The theme song from Gilligan's Island comes to mind...a three hour tour...but it took us 17 hours to get there. The flights to Toronto were all canceled, so we finally found a flight to Buffalo and got a car rental. Our flight out of Chicago was delayed due to the bad weather, and we sat out on the runway for at least an hour. The pilot said anyone with kids could come up to see the cockpit, so my friend and I went up there. Well, we do have kids, but they weren't with us. When we told them why we need to get there as quickly as possible, the one pilot said he never heard of America. How is it possible that a pilot could almost be young enough to be my kid? The captain began singing some America tunes, and then I broke out with "Ain't it foggy outside, all the planes have been grounded." A few other passengers had to come up by us to see what was causing all the laughter. The storm blew over, so we were on our way to Buffalo. We picked up our car rental and headed out. The roads were awful and we saw lots of cars in the ditches, but we were determined to get there. I was very disappointed to still be in the car at 9:00, but we made the best of it and started singing "Riverside." We didn't get to the hotel until 11:30pm, so of course we missed the whole concert. The good thing was that we also had tickets to Saturday's show, and those were our better seats. We paid three times the ticket price for second row seats, which was well-worth it. We ran into Dewey at a shop by the casino on Saturday. Actually, we happened to see him go in there, so we quickly went in the other side to meet up with him. I'm sure it looked purely accidental. ;-) We had a really nice talk with him - thanks, Dewey, for giving us a little of your time. We even got to View the Dew - - well, we got to see the wounds on his arm, anyway. It was finally time for the show, and we were so excited. We talked to the people sitting in front of us, and I had them guessing what song would be sung first. They asked if I'd be singing along to any of the songs, and I said I would to all of them. I find it impossible to just sit there, but I do make sure no one else will hear me. I thought the sound was better than I've ever experienced. It was fun watching them joke around a bit. When they started singing "I Need You," the woman next to me asked if that was a Beatles' tune. I explained that they'd be singing the Beatles' song next, and she burst out laughing when that happened. I guess these people haven't been to an America concert in a while! My heart always sinks a bit when they get to "Sister Golden Hair" - it was too soon for the show to be over! When they left the stage, we stood up by the stage so we'd be right up there for the encore. The stage was so high, and I have to wonder what it looked like to the guys to see a bunch of heads peeking over the top of the stage. It's always hard to pick a favorite from the show, but I especially loved hearing "To Each His Own" and "Wheels Are Turning". Afterwards, Pete was on the stage and I asked him for a Dewey pick to go along with my Gerry pick. (When I was going through security at the airport on the way home, the woman saw my guitar picks in my purse and asked if I play the guitar. I don't, so I had to show her why those picks were treasures of mine.) Mo, were you sitting on the left side of the stage? I thought I saw the guys posing for pictures for you, and I was going to introduce myself to you afterwards, but then I couldn't find you. I hope you share those pictures here! I was going to try and sneak a few pictures myself, but I couldn't figure out how to turn the flash off and I knew security would be all over me if they saw the flash. The Casino Rama is a beautiful place, but Mo is right, there's not much to do except lose money in the casino. We chose to people watch from the bar instead. It was fun ordering a couple rum and cokes, paying with a US $20, and getting $19.50 back in Canadian. I pleaded with several people at the hotel and casino for one of the posters of the guys, and they each gave me a different reason why they weren't allowed to give it away. We were going to use up some of the time in the afternoon while waiting for the concert if we could get a poster. I know I rarely post here, and you'll all think I've completely lost it, but we were going to cut out their pictures, place them in all sorts of spots in the hotel, like peeking over a couch, and take pictures. That never happened, but we had fun coming up with strategic places, anyway. Our trip home was very uneventful, and I'm so thankful I have some great memories to get me through these snowy days. Thanks Dewey, Gerry, and the rest of the band for a great time!

Message: 27257 Posted: Tue Apr 08 11:09:49 2003 By: valynda
Subject: The Fantasy Week

Hi Moser, I enjoyed your review of your Dream Tour Week!! Wow! What a Fantasy come true! Happy Belated Birthday Wishes! --Valerie

Message: 27256 Posted: Tue Apr 08 10:04:17 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: From Luxury to Roughin' It

Wow what a great account of your "dream tour". Glad you had a great time and thanks for sharing it. Have you kept a tally of how many times you have seen the guys perform?
Gerry definitely reminds me of Schroeder.
Thanks again,

Message: 27255 Posted: Tue Apr 08 09:49:38 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: California Dreamin' (Gen)

Yes, Johnny, they did an OUTSTANDING cover which made everybody here ( in France, I mean) crazy about the song, even though there have been various other covers by French artists too. I don't know if their version of it is to be found on the upcoming DVD-audio <<THE BEACH BOYS' "Pet Sounds">>, but I have it on my "California Gold - The Very Best of The Beach Boys" tape, released by Capitol Records in 1990. It has become my fave BB's song along with 'God Only Knows' !

Message: 27254 Posted: Tue Apr 08 09:33:08 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: What gender are they? (one for you Red!)

Excellent ones, Red ! And so true... My favorite of course is # 21 <<Don't rub the lamp if you don't want the genie to come out.>> LOL. Glad the little jokes put a smile on your face, Nancy.

Message: 27253 Posted: Tue Apr 08 07:58:08 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Mo Hit the Nail on the Head & Nice nickname

Hi Everyone ~~ We awoke to Ice coated tree & daffodil buds, along with shiney wanna be green grass! By the sounds of Mo's Ice storm, ours is kinda just a little nuisance. ~~ Wow ~ that is a long time to go with no power, the longest our power has ever been off was about 2 days top. We had to go up and stay with my inlaws. We didn't have our computer then, so I didn't have to endure internet withdrawel ~~ Not sure if I am capable of enduring that for too long for sure ~~ LOL!! :)

Hey Mo ~~~ :) Thanks for sharing this magic with us!
<<<<I was just happy as a clam that they saw we were there...and that I do have a husband...and he is cute...and I'm not a crazed stalker...just someone who appreciates their music and amazing talent>>>> Very well said! I too feel this way about getting to meet them after all of these years ~~ the fact that I got to look Gerry in the face and tell him how much their music has meant to me all of these years and how much I Appreciate it ~~ made my Dream Come True Night Reality! ~~ I still haven't come up with the exact words to describe what this meant to me! :) WOW!!! ~~ I also loved the part about you getting up and dancing with this Charlie Daniels Look a like. Hmmm ~~~ You saw it was your time to Dance and that you did girl! ~~ WOW what a week of Keepsake Memories for you! NICE :) I am soooo Happy for YOU! ~~ I can only begin to imagine the rush of emotions you had to have experienced this past week. ~~ I myself had trouble focusing after my dream come true night most of last week. Hmmm Nice! I wish I could turn the clock back today to last Teusday and take all of that in again, now wouldn't that be nice! :) Gerry~Gerry~Gerry ~Dewey~Dewey~Dewey ~ Yes Yes Yes!!! They Both are Pretty Darn AWESOME! Thanks again Gerry & Dewey for Everything! ~~ I took along my Highway book to have the page with my favorite pic of Gerry and Dewey (Gerry is sitting on a window sill and Dewey is leaning on the inside of it~ with the caption "Still friends after all these years") WOW ~~ I told Dewey as he was signing this for me that this is the way I feel about their music,it is like a Friend that has been there and still is there all these years ~~~ FOR SURE :)

Yes Steve ~~~ Such a neat creative thoughtful idea! Mo getting these Fourth Decade Tour, kinda blue sky colored T-Shirts made up and personalizing them for Us... Mine is signed by Gerry & Dewey too, sooo a double slice of cake for sure! Thanks Mo ~~ You are too much! :)

Hmmmm Mo ~~ Did you give Gerry this new Nickname ~ Schroeder~? As soon as I read that the pic of him on the back of the View From the Ground LP came to my mind, the way he is sitting and holding his guitar with those colored rim glasses and his neat hair style then, kinda does make him look like Schroeder from Charlie Brown. :) ~~ Am I going down the wrong track with this visual as well???? :)

Hi Gen & Red ~~~ You Guys are coming up with Some good ones! Too much Gen you saying about hoping I approve ~~ LOL!!! :) Keep on bringing them smiles my way Okay!

Hi Kiri ~~ It has been awhile since we have heard from you... Hmmm I know of a couple of their bass players names but not exactly sure how long they played on tour with them or if it was just album work. Good Question! :)

Hey Bones ~~~ I am here a echoing your Inquiring Mind Question about Gerry's Second Solo Project??? That was a question I would have loved to ask Gerry if the Hubby would of left me off at the hotel, wow I would have had a lot of questions to ask the both of them, better than asking questions, I would have loved just being there and listening to whatever they wanted to share with us about all of these years of being AMERICA. WOW ~~ My Dream Come True wish continues to be I guess ~~ One day I hope to see this dream! :)

Sending out Hi's to Jimmmmm(bob, DanC(are you enjoying the spring baseball games?) and to Jim from England (thanks for sharing the 3 nice David Gates songs with me) :) :) :)

Have a Nice day all ~~ Gerry & Dewey ~~ Enjoy your much deserved time off. ~~~ Nancy :)

~~~ When you love someone, give the kiss of life, it's gonna take some time, give the kiss of life, when you love someone, breathe the kiss of life, when you love someone , treasure, give the kiss of life ~~~ Sing it Gerry ~~ that was another question I would have loved to ask you.... I would love to hear all about how this Beautiful Masterpiece came to be! :)

Message: 27252 Posted: Tue Apr 08 07:29:51 2003 By: Nina
Subject: Off Topic...

Did anybody see the PBS "American Masters" program on Joni Mitchell? It was run a multitude of times on various PBS stations since last Thursday. I thought it was excellent...but,then,I'm a long time fan of Joni's music. Was wondering what the "casual" observer thought?

Message: 27251 Posted: Tue Apr 08 07:12:15 2003 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: bass

Sorry....I see now that you mentioned "touring" bassists, got abit excited, I LOVE the Bass........

Message: 27250 Posted: Tue Apr 08 07:04:18 2003 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: bass

Besides Gerry & Dan playing Bass on some of their tracks, they had a GREAT session player Joe Osborne (along w/Hal Blaine on drums) for Homecoming, Both have alot of songs under their belt from various artists!
Then there's David Dickey, & Brad.....Lets see.......Dean Parks, Russ Ballard (I think he played EVERYTHING, including bass), Bill Mumy, can't remember if Timothy B. Schmit played bass or if it was just backing vocals. Jason Scheff (of Chicago) played fretless bass on Gerry's VGG.......did I miss anyone?

Message: 27249 Posted: Tue Apr 08 06:47:58 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: California Dreamin' (Gen)

Gen ~ I never knew that the Beach Boys did a cover of "California Dreamin'" although I'm not too surprised. I bet it does sound good. I hope to hear it in the future.

(As a side note for anyone attempting to send me an email, my account is currently out for the ten count.)

Message: 27248 Posted: Tue Apr 08 06:41:17 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: New Nicknames

For most of us here, Sir Dewey was never anything less than DEWEY, DEWEY, DEWEY! It's good to see the agreement.

Message: 27247 Posted: Tue Apr 08 06:36:13 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Re: What gender are they? (one for you Red!)

Touche Gennie Mae!!!!!! Those were very good and I commend you for the choice of male desriptives. Here is something I found that would apply to most every male in general.

Men wish women knew:

1. If you think you're fat, you probably are. Don't ask us.

2. Learn to work the toilet seat. If it's up - put it down.

3. Don't cut your hair. Ever.

4. Sometimes we're not thinking about you. Live with it.

5. Get rid of your cat.

6. Sunday = Sports.

7. Anything you wear is fine - really.

8. Women wearing wonder bras and low-cut blouses lose their right to complain about having their boobs stared at.

9. You have too many shoes.

10. Crying is blackmail.

11. Ask for what you want. Subtle hints don't work.

12. Mark anniversaries on a calendar.

13. Yes, peeing standing up is more difficult than peeing from point-blank range. We're bound to miss sometimes.

14. 'Yes' and 'No' are perfectly acceptable answers.

15. A headache that lasts for 17 months is a problem. See a doctor.

16. Don't fake it. We'd rather be ineffective than deceived.

17. Anything we said six or eight months ago is inadmissible in an argument.

18. If you don't dress like the Dawson Creek girls, don't expect us to act like the soap opera guys.

19. If something we said could be interpreted two ways and one of the ways makes you sad and angry, we meant the other one.

20. Let us ogle. If we don't look at other women, how can we know how pretty you are?

21. Don't rub the lamp if you don't want the genie to come out.

22. You can either ask us to do something OR tell us how you want it done - not both.

23. Christopher Columbus didn't need directions and neither do we.

24. You have enough clothes.

25. Nothing says 'I love you' like sex

Message: 27246 Posted: Tue Apr 08 06:26:36 2003 By: Moser
Subject: New Nicknames

Yes, Dewey should be upgraded to the full three name chant: Dewey Dewey Dewey.
Gerry Gerry Gerry has a new nickname too: Schroeder.

Message: 27245 Posted: Tue Apr 08 06:13:14 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: The Song ~~ Correct Answer

Hi Bruce ~~
WOW I sure was off track on this for sure, I am familiar with Joan Osborne, but not with this Eric Brazilian.. I sure as heck can't spell out a answer the way Johnny did. Way to Go Johnny & Hekawii for getting this right. Nancy :)

Message: 27244 Posted: Tue Apr 08 05:51:46 2003 By: kiri
Subject: bass

how many "touring" bassists has America had, what are their names, and how long were each with them?

sorry if this has been discussed before. i'm just curious.

Message: 27243 Posted: Tue Apr 08 03:05:58 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: What gender are they? (one for you Red!)

"La réponse de la bergère au berger" as French people say. I know, I know !... I've been partial again in my selection but I'll try to counter-balance it one of these days. LOL. (Hope Nancy will approve... :-D)

male, because they hold everything in, but you can always see right through them.

male, because even though it appears useful for a wide variety of work, it spends most of its time just opening bottles.

male, because it is usually unpolished, with its tongue hanging out.

male, because it goes bald and often is over inflated.

male, because it uses the same old lines to pick people up

male, because it hasn't evolved much over the last 5,000 years, but it's handy to have around.

female... Ha! You thought I'd say male. But consider, it gives men
pleasure, he'd be lost without it, and while he doesn't always know the right buttons to push, he keeps trying :-)

(Now to the shelter !!!!)

Message: 27242 Posted: Tue Apr 08 01:28:11 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: From Luxury to Roughin' It

Many thanks to you, Moser for entertaining us so well.
I enjoyed each and everyone one of your captivating reviews.

Message: 27241 Posted: Tue Apr 08 01:17:27 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: California Dreamin' (Johnny)

Though I'm normally quite partial when it comes to America songs/covers and despite my personal feelings for this particular America cover (firstly because they both do a great job on it and also because it was the encore for the 1985 concert I attended - which makes it special,) still, I can't help it but to me, the Beach Boys' version is the best of all three. Hope I don't get flamed for writing this. It really sounds great, nevertheless.

Message: 27240 Posted: Mon Apr 07 20:50:13 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: From Luxury to Roughin' It

Sure sounds to me that Dewey is worthy of the FULL chant, "Dewey, Dewey, Dewey" and not just "Dewey, Dewey, Dew".

"Do we" all agree? I sure hope so.

Message: 27239 Posted: Mon Apr 07 20:43:23 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: From Luxury to Roughin' It

Thanks for the great review, Mo. I'm glad you got your electricity back and that everything is more or less normal. Thanks, too, for sending me one of your home made "tour" t-shirts. That's really cool that you personalized it for me. I'll definitely have to wear it to an upcoming America concert.

Reading your story reminded me of a situation a few years ago where our furnace went out in the middle of winter. The average temperature outside was in the 20's. Fortunately, we have gas fireplaces upstairs and downstairs and that saved us until we could get a new furnace installed.

Message: 27238 Posted: Mon Apr 07 20:32:23 2003 By: Moser
Subject: From Luxury to Roughin' It

Ah, the joy of electricity. On Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, my husband and I were living it up in a luxurious hotel in Ontario. We returned home on Sunday afternoon to a power outage caused by Friday's ice storm. We finally got power at about 7 p.m. this evening. What we didn't know while we were enjoying our stay at Casino Rama was that our kind neighbors who were taking care of our kids for us, had been roughin' it with no power since Friday night at about 9:30 p.m. With no source of heat at their house, they changed quarters to our house--two parents, five kids, a cat and a bird--since our gas fireplace could keep them marginally warm. They cooked out on the gas grill and had battery-operated radio and TV to listen for the grim news of how long it might be until power was restored. The initial estimate was by the 11th. Thank goodness that was not right!! Three days is quite long enough. You don't realize how much you depend on electricity until you don't have it. I missed my computer most of all!! After not having internet access at the hotel and then no power when we returned, I thought I might start with delirium tremens very soon. Not to worry, all is well now.
My husband was elated it came back too since he gets to watch the last game of the NCAA tournament. Go Syracuse (BIG EAST)!!
Regarding the weekend at Casino Rama:
Great shows, eh? The strangest thing about America shows is even though the playlist may be similar, each show is quite unique. On Friday, the crowd was small due to a very challenging weather event. The band was very tight and right on the money. From a Moving Train is so close to the recording that it is hard to believe. I love that song and am really happy to hear it in the line-up. The take home song though, surprisingly to me, was Never Be Lonely. I was singing it to myself all day on Saturday.
There was an enthusiastic fan in the front row about five or six seats away from Jeff and me. He just couldn't sit still. He got up and danced in front of the stage for almost every song. There were three women in his party and they took turns getting up to dance with him. I wanted to get up too but could not talk my usually forward husband into getting up with me. Finally on one song, none of the women would get up with this guy. So, after asking the one who appeared to be his date if she didn't mind, I got up and danced too. Ah, what the heck. It's hard enough to sit still to this music when I'm usually jumping around my living room playing air guitar to it when I listen to the CDs. It's even harder to sit still when you're watching someone else have the guts to get up and dance. I figured I'd just pretend I was at home in my living room. I'm not sure what the heck the other thousand people were doing there in my living room but I didn't really care. Me and Charlie Daniels (that's what the guy looked like) were having ourselves a time. Jeffrey finally got out of his seat for a slow one and then for SGH but he was not exactly convinced about the whole living room delusion. Who cares. We'll never see any of those people again in our lives, right? Well, except maybe Gerry and Dewey and the boys but they didn't seem to mind.
Jeff is finally coming around on understanding my enthusiasm for the live America show. He said following the first show that he doesn't think he has ever heard a band play more perfect renditions of their songs. He ought to know, he has to listen to the CDs everyday. He's also quite impressed with Dewey's "message" song, Hangover. Jeff is not a big drinker, so it's not that he associates with it. I guess he just considers it a very clever song. Thank you, Jeffrey, for finally admitting it, AMERICA ROCKS.
At Saturday's show, it seemed that the guys were looser and in a more animated mood. Maybe they were psyched to be finishing up a three week tour. They had some fun, were more spontaneous, and laughed a bit. They were particularly amused and amusing when Gerry pointed out to Dewey that he was ready to play a song with the wrong guitar. Dewey just smiled at his own "senior moment" and changed his instrument. It was a classic moment.
It was a bittersweet show for me since it was the last of my week long dream tour. I just sat nicely in my seat and tried to sneak in a few flashless pictures. I succeeded for a time until I got scolded by an usher. Apparently, Casino Rama frowns on any kind of photographic equipment in their entertainment area or in the casino. I'm such a rebel, I smuggled the camera in anyway. I figured they didn't have the guts to do a pat down search just for a camera. Besides, if they thrill for me, eh? I'm just glad they didn't confiscate the camera since it belongs to Kaity!! She'd have kicked my butt.
The highlight of the evening (and my 15 seconds of fame for my life) was when Dewey pointed to Jeff and me and said, "The Moser couple's here." I thought I was hallucinating but found out later for sure that he did say that. We waited in the lounge following the concert to catch a glimpse of any of the guys. Around midnight, they all started coming down to the lobby with suitcases in tow getting ready to leave. I was able to say farewell and good trip to each of them and shake their hands and thank them for a great birthday week. It was then that Dewey mentioned to me that he had said that and that he was sorry that he hadn't remembered Jeff's name. Like I would care? Humph. Jeff? Jeff, who? Just kidding. I was just happy as a clam that they saw we were there...and that I do have a husband...and he is cute...and I'm not a crazed stalker...just someone who appreciates their music and amazing talent.
Jeff and I had been joking all weekend that after being at four shows in a week they probably had a photo of me on the tour bus with a caption under it saying, "WARNING!! STEER CLEAR OF THIS GIRL." I was thinking of the movie Conspiracy Theory when all of the Federal agents are dropping out of helicoptors looking for Mel Gibson. They all have a photo of him in a plastic sleeve taped to the forearm of their coatsleeve. I could just picture myself on a similar photo on each of the band's arms so they'd know to hide under their hats and turn the other way when they spotted me anytime during the week. "Ohmigod, there she is, RUN!!"
Anyway, it was a remarkable week and one that I will never forget. But then again that was the point, wasn't it?
A few notes on Casino Rama:
It's gorgeous but covered by a cloud of cigarette smoke. I guess I am spoiled by the very strict smoking laws here in NY state. People smoked there everywhere--in the hallways, in the elevators, and especially in the casino. Wow. I've never seen such a high percentage of smokers. Don't get me wrong, I used to smoke and think there is a balance to be struck between the rights of smokers and non-smokers but there was no balance here. If you didn't smoke, too bad for you and your lungs.
If you don't intend to gamble here, bring a lot of stuff to do. There is a lovely pool, spa, and hot tub which we took full advantage of using. There are a few gift shops but they do not sell books or magazines anywhere in the whole place. That would deter you from spending your money in the casino, I guess.
The strangest impression I got is that people don't go there to see the shows like America, CSN, or Hall & Oates. The show is just a brief respite from the rush to spend their money in games that are decidedly stacked against them. Sorry, man, I just don't get it.

Well, gotta go. Glad to be home, sort of. One last thing--an America show is the fastest 90 minutes you'll ever spend. It goes by so fast, it's utterly amazing. Before you know it, it's time for SGH and the Horse encore. Wow. It is an amazing 90 minutes, though, eh?

Message: 27237 Posted: Mon Apr 07 19:02:44 2003 By: Bones
Subject: What's up Mr. Beckley?

Any information on the progress of Gerry's second solo project?

Message: 27236 Posted: Mon Apr 07 18:12:57 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: The Song

Bruce ~ I tend to agree with you about liking the version of the song a person hears first. Here are a couple of songs that are the exception for me:

"California Dreamin'" by D&G vs. Mamas and Papas
"You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling" by H&O vs. The Righteous Brothers
"Rhythm Of The Rain" by Dan Fogelberg vs. Cascades

Message: 27235 Posted: Mon Apr 07 18:10:26 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Correct Answer!

Explanation of my hints to Bruce in answer to his trivia question (not that anyone necessarily cares.) LOL!

Performing artist --> "Excellent trivia by JO!" --> by JO --> by Joan Osborne

Writer --> $$$$$$ --> Sounds like lots of money --> Bazilian

Writer's band --> Very Mentoring --> Mentor, OH --> Ger's View --> Hooters

AkamanjoAndAmerica ('Akamanjo' was spray painted on the back wall of the "View From The Ground" promo postcard sent out by Ger and Dew. 'Akamanjo' was from "Ventura Highway". "Ah, come on, Joe you can always change your name."

AkamanjoAndAmerica --> akamanJOANdamERICa --> JOAN ERIC --> Joan Osborne (the performer) --> Eric Bazilian (the writer)

Message: 27234 Posted: Mon Apr 07 13:16:58 2003 By: hekawi25
Subject: Re: Correct Answer!

I agree with the "first version you hear" theory. there are probably tons of very good Beatle covers out there, but i'll always hear the original in my head. I'm sure Roy Orbison's original of "Blue Bayou" is great, but Linda Ronstadt's version is the first time I heard the song and it remains one of the great pop singles ever.

Message: 27233 Posted: Mon Apr 07 12:32:56 2003 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: Correct Answer!

RIGHT! It was indeed Eric Bazilian who I saw perform that night. But his version of "One Of Us" paled in comparison to Joan Osborne's. What do you think of my theory that the first version of a song that someone hears will always be the version that they prefer? In my case, it's almost always true.

Message: 27232 Posted: Mon Apr 07 11:13:02 2003 By: hekawi25
Subject: Re: The Song

"one of us" recorded by joan osborne, written by eric bazilian, originally of the hooters. i get it, we reference this to gerry's recent photo of the hooters resturant. very clever.

Message: 27231 Posted: Mon Apr 07 11:08:25 2003 By: valynda
Subject: Auntie Nina

Hi Nina, Loved your story! You are one Great Auntie! --Valerie

Message: 27230 Posted: Mon Apr 07 10:46:23 2003 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: The Song

Not the answer. "Killing Me Softly" has two writers, Charles Fox and Norman Gimbel. This song has only one writer.

Message: 27229 Posted: Mon Apr 07 10:19:22 2003 By: hekawi25
Subject: Re: "The Song"

my guess is the remake of roberta flack's "killing me softly" by the fugees. am i right?

Message: 27228 Posted: Mon Apr 07 09:22:27 2003 By: jimdee
Subject: nj tix on sale

any nj fans out there? tix on sale tuesday april 9th
for the dinner/theatre show on july 3rd in spring lake nj.
link to old mill site from future show list. see you there..

Message: 27227 Posted: Mon Apr 07 07:03:27 2003 By: Nina
Subject: You KNOW they're a fan when...

Took 4 yr. old niece and 7 yr. old nephew to a combination petting zoo/carnival yesterday. Imagine my surprise (and pleasure) when niece turned to me while on carousel and started to sing: "I've been through the dessert on a horse with no name..."!!! Made me one proud auntie!

On the way home in the car, with America cassette providing musical background music, niece tells me from back seat: "Auntie, I think I'm beginning to like Gerry alot." Watch out've got competition!

Message: 27226 Posted: Sun Apr 06 20:28:52 2003 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: JOHNNY!!!

OK,Johnny has e-mailed me the correct answers, but let's keep the game going for a few days. If no one else gets it, I'll tell. But does anyone really care? Nancy?

Message: 27225 Posted: Sun Apr 06 19:54:29 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Hot, Humid Summer Day

<<My underwear starts crawling up my back.>>

Bones ~ Bad news ----> Next it'll be a green monkey!

<<I can't help wonder on a hot, humid summer day, why my work pants start falling down....>>

Bones ~ More bad news ----> According to Heidi Fliess, it's the "early signs" of an upcoming new occupation.

Message: 27224 Posted: Sun Apr 06 19:51:42 2003 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: The Song & The Artist

Johnny, I guess I can see how $$$$$$ would remind you of the WRITER'S last name, but that other reference is really odd, and this one I don't get. Of course if you'd e-mail me directly, we can share- I promise not to reveal your address!

Message: 27223 Posted: Sun Apr 06 19:11:11 2003 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Muskrat Candlelight Vs. Muskrat Love

I can't help wonder on a hot, humid summer day, why my work pants start falling down and my underwear starts crawling up my back. Something for great minds to ponder.

Message: 27222 Posted: Sun Apr 06 19:04:09 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Muskrat Candlelight Vs. Muskrat Love (Mark)

Mark ~ I think your recollection of what Dan said about "Muskrat Love" is right-on. Here is what the "Highway" booklet reported.

Gerry ----> "The idea was: each of us was working on three songs, and then we'd agree on a cover tune. David Dickey had played us Willis Allen Ramsey's album on Shelter, and it had 'Muskrat Love (Muskrat Candlelight)' on it, as it was titled. And to us it sounded like a very bluesy, quirky tune. We just felt it was quirky and commercial, and we worked it up."

The booklet goes on to say: "Warner Bros. was less than enthusiastic about the song, and as a single it made it only to #67."

(Hey all, did you notice that the "Highway" booklet had Ramsey's middle name mis-spelled as I quoted it above?)

Message: 27221 Posted: Sun Apr 06 18:44:04 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: "The Song"

Bruce ~ Unless I'm off track too about the writer of "The Song" you heard performed, my $$$$$$ reference is because the writer's last name reminds me of a lot of $$$$$$. Maybe I'm pronouncing the last name inaccurately. Here's another way of me saying who I think the artist is who performed the hit and who the person is who wrote it -----> "AkamanjoAndAmerica". So Bruce, can you see what I'm referring to? Am I hot, warm, or cold?

Like Bruce's "The Song" situation, here's a song that most of us have heard performed by someone who isn't the writer, but we've heard this writer sing hundreds of times and that's a HUGE understatement. Plus, it's DIRECTLY related to America. It's Gerry's song "Norman" performed by Jeff Larson. Most of us have at least heard the clip of Jeff singing "Norman" but very few of us have ever heard Gerry perform it himself. So, it too could be "The Song"...well maybe in the future for some of us, hopefully, huh?

Nancy ~ I'm pleased to hear that you had a great time at the America show you attended. I'm really glad you got to meet Gerry and Dewey. It's only appropriate that they get to meet the unofficial "2002 Fan of the Year"!!!

Message: 27220 Posted: Sun Apr 06 16:29:07 2003 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: The Song

Nancy, you're heading down some wrong paths! Read the clues carefully! And $$$$$ is not a clue, I'm wondering why Johnny posted that.

Message: 27219 Posted: Sun Apr 06 16:09:07 2003 By: Mark
Subject: Speaking of songs with silly lyrics...

I finally heard a song the other day that I hadn't heard for decades. I remember I liked the song as a kid, but it has never been a regular in any oldies stations that I have listened too. It was one of those old hits that seemed to have just fallen off the face of the earth. When I listened the lyrics, I kind of understood why stations didn't play it. Even though I like the music and performance, the lyrics range from stupid to embarassing. The song is "Sweet Cream Ladies" by the Box Tops. It was a hit in 1968 and the Box Tops had several other hits in the late 60's which still get air play like "The Letter", "Cry Like A Baby", and "Soul Deep." Most of their songs were bluesy and soulful. "Sweet Cream Ladies" was a departure from that for them. I won't go into the subject of the song since this is a family board, but the song was much more enjoyable for me when I was an innocent kid who didn't understand the lyrics.

Message: 27218 Posted: Sun Apr 06 16:09:03 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: VFTHW Pic ~ Orillia, Muskrat Love & The Song!

Hi Everyone ~~ It's still light out here in PA.... thanks to losing an hour of sleep last night :) Where in the world did the weekend go to I am still finding it hard to stay on the ground here.... :)

Thanks Steve for posting the pic from Canada, By the looks of the weather there, you & Dewey are probably glad to be heading back to sunny, warm Calif. Have a safe flight home and enjoy some nice times with your families. Thanks Again, for a night to remember for sure! :)

Hi Maggie :) ~~ Thanks for sharing this neat info with us.... I hope one day to be at a show where David Dickey is in the audience and plays the encore at a show with Gerry & Dewey, that would be really neat to hear them do Muskrat Love! Hmmmm ~~ My inquiring mind is wondering is there anywhere I can take a listen to this W.A.R. Muskrat Candlelight? I am kinda curious to see how it compares to AMERICA's Muskrat Love.

Hey Johnny ~~ that was pretty clever how you put those AMERICA song titles into this poem.... You have a knack at doing that good! I am still enjoying the cassette of the 76 concert in Pittsburgh, sooo neat hearing all three of them doing Muskrat Love on there. Thanks for sharing that with us. :)

Hi Bruce ~~~ Wow your trivia question has my mind a wondering for sure.... I have a couple of ideas but nothing concrete to back it up yet.... soo could ya kinda give us a little more of a clue? Hmmm ~~ You said it was an 80's group that is from the Phila area.... and The Song is a remake of another artists big hit... and that it made the billboard top 100 in late 1995, and then reached up the top 4 in early 1996..... Was this band known for hits any other years or were they kinda like a one hit wonder band???? Were there only 4 members in the band? Is the $$$$ a clue? I know why don't I just ask you for the answer right? Sorry I am always filled with questions, that is just me. :)

Oooooh Red ~~ Too much you spicey monkeyshiner.... and yes how is Big Bob and the Twins doing these days????? Maybe it is best you don't answer that one hahahhahahhaah :) Did you see Rusty was in that wreck and that did him in for the day, oh well, I am just glad no one got hurt in that 22 car pile up... I guess that was the biggest one in Nascar history.... Poor Ryan he was soooo bummed out!! ~~ Looks like Dale, Jr. is on a roll at Taledega! :) ~~ Hmmm Jackson is here singing Load Out/Stay :) ~~~ till those lights come up and we hear that sound and we wonder why we came ~~~~ now we got country & western, we got disco, and 8 tracks and cassettes and stereo, and we got rural scenes and magazines, and Richard Pryor on video, ~~ and we got time to think about the ones we love..... People you got the power over what we do,People stay just a little while a longer, we wanna play just a little bit longer, if your mother don't mind, if we take a little time and sing another song..... stay just a little bit a longer, please, please, please say you will...... ( Not word for word ~~ Jackson is too fast for my fast typing fingers LOL!) :)

Hi Gen ~~ I am not familiar with these CD's but I sure would love to hear Hope & Greenhouse done live.... Good reply back to Red's post! too much for sure! :) Take care!

Last but not least, Hey Mo ~~ get rested up from your on going AMERICA High and let us know how the shows were this weekend Okay? Did you get to meet Laura (that posts on the venturahwy mess. board) & hubby, they traveled all the way from Hawaii I believe for these 2 shows? ~~ Boy I found it soo hard to focus on my end of the month work for sure..... WOW What a Dream Come True Night to Remember! :)

Hmmm ~~ About my pics from the show.... the ones that my hubby took of the show, didn't turn out good, too dark I guess, you can just see shadows... Oooooh well it was nice to be able to watch them sing close up! :) Some of the Digital camera ones turned out okay soo I will try to get them to Steve to post soon. My sister and I need to figure out how to make them into thumbnails soo easier to email.... Steve I will probably end up sending them to you from her server and email address, so I will email you first telling you when I am sending them Okay! Thanks! :)

Take care all, Nancy :)

~~~ Midnights in winter, the glowing fire, lights up your face in orange and gold, I see your sweet smile, shine through the darkness, its line is etched in my memory, soooo I'd Know YOU by Heart, mornings in April, sharing the secrets, we walk until the morning was gone, weeeee were like children, laughing for hours, the Joy you gave me lives on and on, cause I know YOU by Heart...... Iiii still hear your voice on warm summer nights, whispering like the wind, ooohhh oooohhh, ooooooooh ooooooooohhhhhhh, you left in Autumn, the leaves were turning, I walked down roads or orange and gold, Iiiii saw your sweeet smile, I heard your laughter, you're still here beside me everyday, cause I KNOW YOU BY HEART, cause I know you by Hearrrrrt ~~~ Such a nice song by Eva Cassidy :) :)

Message: 27217 Posted: Sun Apr 06 15:59:05 2003 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Muskrat Candlelight Vs. Muskrat Love

If I remember correctly, I believe Dan said WB's tried to talk them out of releasing that song but they insisted on its release. For once I think the record company knew what they were talking about. While America's version is elegant musically, those lyrics are still pretty silly. I think fans it made fans who were waiting for another Horse or Ventura Highway just say "huh?"

Message: 27216 Posted: Sun Apr 06 11:50:53 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: "The Song"

Bruce ~ Excellent trivia by jo!!! $$$$$ Very mentoring, too!

(That is if I'm on the right track.)

Message: 27215 Posted: Sun Apr 06 10:02:05 2003 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: "The Song"

OK, so I didn't go to the Ramsey show 'cause it seems from postings here that he was not gonna play "the song". But that reminded me of another story regarding "the song". About two years ago, I was walking by The Bitter End, a very famous and historic club here in Greenwich Village (where America HAVE played, but a LONG time ago when there was an additional member!) and I noticed a posting in the window that that evening was "songwriters night". So there were four songwriters playing, and my attention was immediately drawn to one of the names. Well, I certainly wanted to hear "the song", but didn't want to invest my time and $$$ if "the song" wasn't going to be played. I located the writer next door at a bar, and the person confirmed that they would play "the song". So I saw the show, and of course, "the song" was played last, but it was played. Now this wouldn't be any fun if I just said the title, so I'll give a couple of hints and have you folks guess it. "The song" was certainly different and covered a topic that while having been written about before, put a different "spin" on that topic. "The song" entered the Billboard Top 100 in Dec 1995 and peaked at #4 in early 1996. It was a worldwide hit for an artist who did not write the song. To this day that song remains the only hit for that artist. (Someone told me that that artist "hates the song"). The writer of the song used to be a member of a Philadelphia-based group that had a couple of hits in the 80's. (Now Johnny, give some others a chance and hold off maybe a day OK? =) I think this might be an interesting off-America topic if people are into it. That is, do any of you have stories about going to a concert and waiting and hoping that an artist will do "the song"? Oh yeah, by the way, I liked the hit version better than the writers'. But that brings up another theory of mine- that you'll always prefer the first version of a song you heard. Comments anyone?

Message: 27214 Posted: Sun Apr 06 07:38:55 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Live on German TV - Ooops!

Any info or opinion on the 'Cds' I mean!!! sorry.

Message: 27213 Posted: Sun Apr 06 07:36:40 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Live on German TV and more

I wonder if anyone of you has already purchased the America Live on German TV '95? I sent a message to the guy in Sweden to inquire about the price. I've never had a chance to hear 'Hope' live , so I'm tempted to acquire this cd, along with the Live in Japan ( which includes Greenhouse live). Any info or opinion on the articles would REALLY be welcome. Thanks.

Message: 27212 Posted: Sun Apr 06 07:29:16 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Paul McCartney

Thanks Bruce for directing us to this interesting article. I must say I trust him when he says he's John's biggest fan. I didn't have the occasion to post here about that before but I was in Barcelona (in the 'Palau San Jordi' ) on the 28th to see him. I was really lucky my Catalan friend ( thanks again, Bea !) could purchase the tickets in time ( the show was sold out in less than 48 hours!). He more than satisfied all of us 'Maccan' fans (that's what we call sir Paul's followers here) by playing his songs and also honored John & George on several occasions... As he had spoken French onstage when in Paris, here he showed us his language competences, speaking both Spanish AND Catalan (which is the official language in Cataluña). The audience's response was incredible ! Great time we had for sure...

Message: 27211 Posted: Sat Apr 05 22:47:12 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Muskrat Candlelight Vs. Muskrat Love

I just found the answer to my own question! According to the All Music Guide as well as the "Highway" booklet, the precise title as it appears on Willis Alan Ramsey's album is "Muskrat Love (Muskrat Candlelight)".

Message: 27210 Posted: Sat Apr 05 22:33:43 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Muskrat Candlelight Vs. Muskrat Love

Something interesting to me is the title change from "Muskrat Candlelight" to "Muskrat Love" as recorded by the threesome. I can't help but wonder how that came about and why especially since the lyrics appear to be exactly the same. One would assume, perhaps, because "Muskrat Love" as the title seems to flow better than "Muskrat Candlelight." The repetition of the words "muskrat love" is perhaps the obvious reason. For whatever reason, I also can't help but wonder who made the decision...the trio, the record company, or someone else...and what Mr. Ramsey thought about the change.

(Thanks Maggie for your reply as to why W.A.R. no longer plays "Muskrat Candlelight". It was very interesting.)

Message: 27209 Posted: Sat Apr 05 20:12:28 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Muskrat

I thought it might be because America had DONE the definative version and Mr Ramsey has so many other great tunes that he wanted to do them instead. No matter. Spend the ten bucks to see him. You won't be sorry.

Message: 27208 Posted: Sat Apr 05 17:58:31 2003 By: meza
Subject: Re: Question (For Maggie)

in answer to johnny's question, as willis explained " i never play this song anymore. after the capt et al recorded the song it just sorta got a life of it's own...but i would like to play it tonight in honor of my friend david dickey who's here tonight." or something to that affect. if you've ever been fortunate enough to see willis in person you know that his stories in between songs are almost as good as the songs themselves. this was december 2001 in houston.

Message: 27207 Posted: Sat Apr 05 16:10:44 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - Orillia

Click here to see Gerry's view from the hotel window in Orillia, Ontario, Canada.

Message: 27206 Posted: Sat Apr 05 15:26:25 2003 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: Paul McCartney

There was a discussion here recently about this. Read what Paul McCartney says:

Message: 27205 Posted: Sat Apr 05 12:24:34 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: VFTHW from Canada

Gerry did post his Ontario pic (brrr...) on the gallery page. Hope the show was great. Anyone attended yesterday? Don't forget to post a review, then. Thanks guys.

Message: 27204 Posted: Sat Apr 05 10:50:39 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Question (For Maggie)

Hi Maggie ~ I found your post regarding Willis Alan Ramsey to be VERY interesting, and what a nice gesture he paid to David as you mentioned! A number of years back, I recorded Ramsey performing on the Texas Connection (a country music concert show on television). As I recall, he didn't perform "Muskrat Candlelight" then either. And as I mentioned in an earlier post, I couldn't recall him performing the song as the opening act for someone else.

I'm very interested in knowing your opinion. Why is it, do you think, that Willis doesn't perform "Muskrat Candlelight" in concert?

Message: 27203 Posted: Sat Apr 05 10:03:53 2003 By: maggie
Subject: Re: Question

hey bruce...WAR is well worth $10 to see no matter what he plays! if the question is will he play "muskrat candlelight" i kinda doubt it. of all the times i've seen him he's only played it once, and as willis explained, it was ONLY because david dickey was in the audience and performed it as a thank you to him. very sweet moment. so! go to see him anyway!

Message: 27202 Posted: Sat Apr 05 08:05:11 2003 By: CJ
Subject: Re: Hooters.

You're right - at least Gerry didn't take any pix - but there are pix. . .

Chris - Cleveland

Message: 27201 Posted: Sat Apr 05 07:54:55 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Re: Poem

Gen, I loved the poem. And Johnny, very clever how you changed the words to a tribute to our Gerry, Gerry, Gerry. We certainly do have a lot of creative people on this chat folder.

Message: 27200 Posted: Sat Apr 05 06:01:25 2003 By: Whit
Subject: Sorry , Johnny

Oops, gave credit to the wrong poet. Sorry, Johnny. After I went back and read your post, I realized how many creative people we have on this site. You guys keep up the good work. It creates something for us dummies to read! See ya, Whit

Message: 27199 Posted: Sat Apr 05 05:58:08 2003 By: Whit
Subject: poem

Hi, Nanc
I really like your poem. You and Gen should start writing lyrics for the guys. HMMM....

LOL, Whit

Message: 27198 Posted: Fri Apr 04 23:09:52 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Talking about Texas

Know what? I love YOUR version of the poem better than the original !!! LOL
Also, I wonder if Gerry posted a VFTHW from Canada?

Message: 27197 Posted: Fri Apr 04 18:49:49 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Talking about Texas (Gen & Ger)

Gen ~ Thanks for the cool "On A Roof In Fort Worth" poem! As most of us here know, Gerry was born in Fort Worth. Below is the first stanza of the poem as you posted it followed by a slight change as a tribute to Gerry ["Brother Golden Hair"].

On a roof in Fort Worth at night
Backdrop of bright cityscape lights
Love in darkness under the sky
Watching whirlybirds flutter by

On a roof in Fort Worth during a LOVELY NIGHT
Backdrop of bright cityscape WORLD OF LIGHT
Love in darkness under the SHELTERING SKY
WATCHING whirlybirds flutter and THE TIME GO BY

(Hi Kim & Whit!)

Message: 27196 Posted: Fri Apr 04 13:25:51 2003 By: Whit
Subject: Re: VFTHW (post # 27142)

Gerry, seems like you may have a recurring theme here. Something like Jethro Tull's "THICK AS A BRICK" comes to mind. If you get tired of the snow and no scenery, come on down to sunny TEXAS!!!

Message: 27195 Posted: Fri Apr 04 12:24:07 2003 By: Whit
Subject: Talking about TEXAS

Hey gang! Glad to see some interest in Texas. Kim and I hope Gerry, Dewey, and Erin see how much we need a concert in TEXAS!!!! Since OKC got cancelled, I've been discussing with my wife which way we should go to see the guys this year. Looks like the concert in L.A. with Kenny Loggins might be my best chance. What do ya think, Kim? If there is not a Dallas concert, maybe I could get them to come to AMARILLO!!!! WOW, how cool would that be.

red, you kill me brother. I'm still laughing about "BIG BOB AND THE TWINS"!!!

Mo, Nanc, & Shelton....great news on the shows. Keep the good stuff coming. Got to have something to read on slow days. Happy be-lated birthday, Mo. (P.S.- Thanks for your help)

Hasta-la-bye bye, WHIT

Message: 27194 Posted: Fri Apr 04 11:12:10 2003 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: Talking about Texas (Johnny)

Reminds me of being in Dallas (I moved from there last year) when the tornado hit Fort Worth (Spring 2001 I think).


Message: 27193 Posted: Fri Apr 04 09:03:10 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Ten Things men know for sure about women

Good one Gennie Lou...........

Message: 27192 Posted: Fri Apr 04 08:58:30 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Ten Things men know for sure about women

Funny, Red. i think we've got some common 'friends' maybe. BTW, I received that one too! And liked it...

Ten Things men know for sure about women.










10. They have breasts.

Message: 27191 Posted: Fri Apr 04 08:10:04 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Geography of a Woman

All this talk of Gerry's picture taken of Hooters reminds me of a little ditty sent to me by a special friend:);) that I thot I would share with y'all. Mo & Nancy & Gennie Lou take special notice of ur age group!!!


Between 18 and 20 a woman is like Africa, half discovered, half wild,
naturally beautiful with fertile deltas.

Between 21 and 30 a woman is like America, well developed and open to
trade, especially for someone with cash.

Between 31 and 35 she is like India, very hot, relaxed and convinced of her own beauty.

Between 36 and 40 a woman is like France. Gently aging but still a warm and desirable place to visit.

Between 41 and 50 she is like Yugoslavia, lost the war - haunted by past mistakes. Massive reconstruction is now necessary.

Between 51 and 60, she is like Russia, very wide and borders are
un-patrolled. The frigid climate keeps people away.

Between 61 and 70, a woman is like Mongolia, with a glorious and all
conquering past but alas, no future.

After 70, they become Afghanistan. Almost everyone knows where it is, but no one wants to go there.


Between 15 and 70 a man is like Iraq - ruled by a dick.

The Break-up song (They don't write em')...Greg Kihn Band

We had broken up for good just an hour before
Uh uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh
Now I'm staring at the bodies as there's dancin' 'cross the floor
Uh uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh
And then the band slowed the tempo and the music gets me down
Uh uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh
It was the same old song with the melancholy sound
Uh uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh

They don't write 'em like that anymore
They just don't write 'em like that anymore

We'd been living together for a million years
Uh uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh
But now it feel so strange (out in the atmospheres?)
Uh uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh
And then the jukebox plays a song I used to know
Uh uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh
Now I'm staring at the bodies as they dancin' so slow
Uh uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh

They don't write 'em like that anymore
They just don't write 'em like that anymore

Now I wind up staring at an empty glass
Uh uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh
Cause its so easy to say that you'll forget your past
Uh uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh

They don't write 'em like that anymore, no!
They just don't write 'em like that anymore

They don't write 'em like that anymore
They just don't write 'em like that anymore

Message: 27190 Posted: Fri Apr 04 07:27:47 2003 By: KevinS.
Subject: Hooters.

Thank God Gerry didn't take any pictures inside Hooters. Every Hooters I've ever been to is enough to make a guy turn gay: "Here's $5, sweetheart, go put something on." Dallas has so many strip clubs that all Hooters can attract are like the AAA players. (I was going to use the term Bush League, but reconsidered because that would have been inapppropriate.)

All that aside, what a funny, funny photo. The life of a rock star: Of all places you stay, it's next to a Hooters.


Message: 27189 Posted: Fri Apr 04 07:13:09 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Tacoma & Glenside pics

Hey, thanks for the wonderful pics Tommie S. and Stephen B. - I really enjoyed them! Thanks again for sharing.

Message: 27188 Posted: Fri Apr 04 07:06:27 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Talking about Texas

I'm glad you enjoyed the poem. Think you can find info about the author on his web site home page:
All I remember is that he's a computer consultant who writes poems & rhymes & who lives in Azle, Texas.

Message: 27187 Posted: Fri Apr 04 05:54:02 2003 By: kimcabrina
Subject: Re: Talking about Texas

Genevieve - As I write this I am here in my office in Fort Worth less than a mile from the Trinity River watching the rain come down. Thanks for the poem, it was a nice way to start my morning. Do you have any info on the poem's author?

Johnny - You forgot to mention that Sweetwater is also home to the annual Rattlesnake Roundup. As I loathe snakes this is one event I will forego!

Sheldon, Mo, & Nancy - Enjoyed your posts on the concerts. I sure do hope some dates show up soon for Texas. To Each His Own is my all time favorite song and I would love to hear it live.

Ya'll have a great weekend.


Message: 27186 Posted: Fri Apr 04 05:36:29 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Be Careful Boys

Yesterday when I was leaving New Castle, PA, the temp was 71. By the time I reached Edinboro, PA it was in the 50's. By Erie, only another 30 minute distance north, it was 36. It cooled down through Buffalo and was 30 by the time I reached Rochester. We had an ice storm overnight and the schools are all closed. So, the moral of the story is, the road conditions between Cleveland and Ontario are probably less than ideal. So, be careful on your drive to Casino Rama, please, Gerry, Dewey, and gang.

Message: 27185 Posted: Fri Apr 04 05:30:54 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Upgrade

The prom zit status has been upgraded to the zit from hell. This status change was confirmed when my 9 year old daughter jumped into my arms yesterday after not seeing me for two days and wanted a hug. Before she even leaned in for the hug she said, "EEEwwww, Mom, you've got a zit!!" Thanks, Moll, I hadn't noticed. Don't you just love kids?

Message: 27184 Posted: Thu Apr 03 22:43:32 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Talking about Texas (Johnny)

Hi Johnny,
Talking about Texas, some guy sent me this J. David's poem a little while ago to add to my collection... Thought it fun to mention it to you, too.

On A Roof In Fort Worth

On a roof in Fort Worth at night
Backdrop of bright cityscape lights
Love in darkness under the sky
Watching whirlybirds flutter by

Hear the sounds that rise from the street
Pulsing of our mutual heart beat
The breeze whistles against the eaves
Wakes the birds and rustles the leaves

Trinity River glistens there
Inhaled breath tastes of Texas air
Clouds drifting at a rapid pace
Unveiled stars wink at the Moon's face

Moon's rays shine on her skin and hair
Highlights her complexion so fair
They kiss and retreat, holding hands
For once they meet; forever friends!

Just David (c) 1999

Message: 27183 Posted: Thu Apr 03 19:36:14 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Question

Bruce ~ If given the opportunity for only $10, I would definitley go see this singer/songwriter. I saw him a number of years ago as a last-minute-substitute opening act for Hall & Oates. With only his acoustic guitar, he pleased an unsuspecting crowd. I honestly can't remember if he performed "the song," but I can't imagine that he didn't. Found on Jimmy Buffett's 4-CD box set is Buffett's cover of this artist's song, "The Legend Of Spider John". It too is a delightful song performed almost identical to W.A.R. Hopefully, this artist will perform "TLOSJ".

On an unrelated matter, a co-worker asked me the other day if I had ever heard of a town in Texas named Sweetwater. She said she visited there this past weekend. She also said there's not much there. I told her I have heard of Sweetwater, but I didn't mention that it's the current home town of former America bassist David Dickey. She wouldn't have understood (nor cared). :0)

I wasn't born yesterday
You should know by now
So let's set the record straight
I've find out
There lots of room to doubt
I don't want to be one of those guys
Who only sees the joke behind the lie
I wasn't born yesterday

(Daryl Hall..."I Wasn't Born Yesterday")

Message: 27182 Posted: Thu Apr 03 18:17:02 2003 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Question

It would be worth it for sure, especially if you can ask him about the history behind MUSKRAT LOVE & how it became an AMERICA song, later stolen by some 2 bit act that got lucky w/a TV show. Only AMERICA could see thru the exterior of this song & make it into the best it could be. That other 2 bit act could only see it as cotton candy.

Message: 27181 Posted: Thu Apr 03 17:45:54 2003 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: Question

Here's a question for all of you folks out there- go to this site:
See who's playing on April 6th? Would any of you pay $10 to see this person? Think he'll do "the song"? (The club is walking distance from my home). Also, note the error in the person's bio, which mentions- well...take a look!

Message: 27180 Posted: Thu Apr 03 15:33:35 2003 By: Sheldon
Subject: Re: IUP Concert

Hi Sergio - I couldn't ask for anymore than I got at my first concert. Meeting Dewey, Gerry, Nancy & Mo - what an awesome high!! I'm still on that high & don't really want to come down!! Can't wait for my next "fix" at HersheyPark...
Nancy - thanks for the complement about my age.. however, some days I feel much older than 39!!!
I loved Gerry's "Hooters" photo .. on our way home from IUP I saw a billboard for Hooter's (Hooters - next exit 1/2 mile).. I told my wife that I thought it would be a good idea if we stopped; she informed me that it would be better for me if we did not stop - I, ofcourse, did not argue w/ her & kept on driving!!


Message: 27179 Posted: Thu Apr 03 14:40:29 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: IUP Concert (My First!)

What a night indeed! Thanks for sharing your experience, man you hit a home run for it being your first America concert, meeting Dewey and Gerry and fellow "chatters", like Nancy and Mo. Glad it was all you expected and more. Take care,

Message: 27178 Posted: Thu Apr 03 09:49:57 2003 By: Steve
Subject: Re:About Last Night

I have to agree with CJ,it was a great show. I have seen "Company" and "To Each His Own"live a few times and last night Dewey and Gerry were right on.The audience seemed to be a little subdued ,but into the show more than the Rock Hall audience was last year.As always watching and listening to America perform,the evening was very enjoyable.Hopefully they will be back this way again soon.By the way,loved the View from the hotel window picture of Hooters.It's 10 minutes from my house and now it has a new meaning.

Message: 27177 Posted: Thu Apr 03 07:46:27 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Yep ~ Now I know what I forgot to mention!

Me Again ~~
Hi there Sheldon ~~~ Nice to read your thoughts on your first show... what an AWESOME feeling HUH!!!! Sorry for mispelling your wifes name, I have a cousin Debbie and she spells her name like this.... It was really great getting to meet you both and to spend some time sharing the gift of gab with you.... Sooo Good to hear you got to meet Gerry a the hotel, I sure wanted to be there, I did try to talk Hubby into letting me off there on the way home, but My son had a big test to study for and said he wouldn't be able to come and get me there.... sooo I went home a Pouting big time for sure!!!! Keep on enjoying their music.... and I just gotta say you look alot younger than 39, and sooo does Mo look alot younger than the big 40, sooo neat we all got to meet..... WOW!!!!! Have a good day!

Submarine Ladies is on here now.... what a nice song ~~~~ My songs will be playing all day here keeping me calm and collect while I get my work completed..... See ya, Nancy

~~~~ don't you know that I lovvvve you, I was hoping you loved me too, don't you know that I love you toooo, love youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu ~~~~~ oh my now Dewey is singing Love on the Vine..... neat ~~~~ Thanks again Gerry & Dewey, you guys are the best grapes on the vine for me for sure! :)

Message: 27176 Posted: Thu Apr 03 07:35:04 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: VFTHW - Mentor, OH

Hi Everyone ~~~ Nice to see the Blue Sky here again, temps in the 70's today.... Darn you weatherman, why couldn't you have left it be this way earlier this week.... Ooooh well! ~~ My little bluebirds are all out here this morning.... time to get on with their spring flings ~~ Oooooh Red you crack me up!!!! I AM here losing it.... this view from the hotel pic made your day didn't it????? You spicey monkeyshiner you!!!!! :) :) ;)

Hey Gerry ~~~ Too much for sure.... I bet this was a welcome site, after all of those brick walls and grey clouds and SNOW..... I bet this Kinda more than makes up for all of that, doesn't it? ~~ Nice to see the rainbow colors alive in the sky again! Have a safe trip up to Canada, hope You guys have some time to relax and just unwind.... :)

Hi SteveO ~~ Thanks for the answer about Bread and David Gates, I will look around for a good deal on this CD of theirs.....

Hey Mo ~~~ It was sooo nice you stopping in Live Chat some last night.... I am glad that all ended up working out well with you getting sidetracked with a sightseeing tour on the way to the show.... I am still smiling at the thought that you were gonna call me and see if I wanted to take in the Mentor show with you..... Thanks a bunch, my friend! WOW!!!! Have a safe trip back home.... and get rested up for your weekend with Hubby & 2 AMERICA shows..... I Love it!!!!! What a way to mark your birthday memory! :)

Thanks CJ for sharing your thoughts with us on the Mentor show.... I had originally planned on being there, that is until I saw they were coming closer my way.... We have relatives that live right near where this show was last night. ~~ I agree with you and Moser ~~~ sooo great to hear Company done live, To Each His Own has been an all time favorite of mine for sure, great to hear it, and From a Moving Train ~~~ Wow I would always hear this song in the Grocery Store, it made me want to go shopping everyday just to hear it again.... That was when I didn't have the net, and could never find Human Nature around here anywhere..... Yes Mo what a great album.... I listen to it quite regularly here too....

Hi Cathy ~~~~ Boy can I relate with you big time right now.... I too am covered up with the end of the month reports and things here too.... Hmmm do you find yourself kinda getting stuck in time, and lose the first couple of days in the month.... I hope that made sense.... I am still in a blurr, forgive me, I keep on drifting back to Teusday night..... what a dream come true night..... I can't seem to come up with the right words to express how much this meant to me. I gotta get back to reality too and get focused on these reports and I gotta print out all of my end of the first quarter statements as well and get them out in the mail.... Mr Mailman, you gotta be speedy delivering these for me Okay!!!! You best be smiling! :):)

Nice talking to everyone at live chat last night, sorry Daisyjane64 and PatM for having to call it a night.... my big day caught up to me and I ran out of the energizer bunny power ~~ LOL! :)~~ Soo neat you are going to see Dan Fogelberg DJ, I hope to see him as well when he comes to Pittsburgh....

Hi Christine & Jason ~~~~ Hmmm Christine my inquiring mind is wondering if you were the one that replied to my post regarding AMERICA on the VH1 site, if you are I must apologize for now replying back to you yet.... I did type a reply to you, but for some reason it didn't get posted, that greedy little cyberspace muncher must of eaten it up!!!! Welcome to the chat folder and I hope you find a place to get some more of AMERICA's CD's & DVD's, I am sure you will enjoy discovering them..... Take Care Jason, I haven't heard of this group you are going to see, I hope you enjoy the show....

Hi Sergio ~~ I hope they come your way soon again!

I am sorry if I have missed replying back to anyone here, thanks soo much for all of your nice feedback about my magical evening....

Okay Nancy back to reality now, get to work!!!!!

Have a good day all, Nancy :)

~~~~ I really think it was a One In A Million Delight, all of my dreams were met, on that magical night..... I love this song Gerry, sorry for changing the lyrics around alittle ~~~ One Night, One in a Million twilight ~~~ Sing it Gerry :)

Message: 27175 Posted: Thu Apr 03 06:50:52 2003 By: Erin
Subject: Re: VFTHW - Mentor, OH

Hooters. That's funny.

Erin :o)

Message: 27174 Posted: Thu Apr 03 06:50:23 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Re: VFTHW - Mentor, OH

Now we're talking on a picture. Waitress, I'll have the breasts. Need somethng to munch on. The mind is a terrible thing.

Message: 27173 Posted: Thu Apr 03 06:44:41 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - Mentor, OH

Click here to see Gerry's view from the hotel window in Mentor.

Message: 27172 Posted: Thu Apr 03 04:38:41 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Road Warrior

Good morning, everybody. Wow, thanks for all the well wishes. Red Oak, you're too kind. It took a while to catch up on all the posts since Tuesday when last I read the folder. What a chatty bunch you all have become!
Erin, I would agree with you about Sgt. Darkness. It was the song I had in mind the other day that if I could pick any to add to the playlist, that is what I would pick. I was very pleased though with the additions to the show including Company, From A Moving Train, and To Each His Own. All three were right on the money. I second the motion from CJ, it was awesome to hear Company--and done so perfectly. I would have to say that I'm even happier to hear From A Moving Train because the Human Nature album needs to have some heavy representation in the show. I really enjoy that CD--on a daily basis, of course.
What else to catch up on...oh for one thing, sorry for the double double post. I told you I didn't like that TV internet thingy. It's really a pain to navigate through.
I was happy to see the posts from Nancy and Sheldon. It was so awesome to meet you guys. I wish you could have come to the hootel, Nancy. We did have some fun there. Sheldon, thanks for your kind comments. I hope we weren't too nutty for you. We tend to carry on a bit when we get the chance to get together. Perhaps you guys know the type of friends I'm speaking of, people who have known you since before you even had breasts!! The "do you remember when" stories can go on all night.
The plan for Mentor was to go with Tammi, my friend since I was about 4 years old. Her birthday was April 1 and mine was April 2. Hence, two shows, one for each of us--one in our somewhat hometown area (about 90 minutes from our stomping grounds) and one in the area where she now lives. Unfortunately, Tam celebrated a bit toooo much on Tuesday and had to bag on Wednesday. I guess she wasn't listening when Dewey said that Hangover was their "message" song! So, that meant I had to recruit a new America convert. I wrangled my nephew into going with me. He's 26 and attended college in the Cleveland area so I figured he'd make a good co-pilot. Thank you so much for going, Jeffrey. That was really cool of you to do for your Aunt Mo. Unfortunately, we got lost (way lost). I guess living in a city as a student with no car doesn't give you much experience in knowing the area. Oh well. We did get there during the third song. I was terrified to see what kind of seats were left b/c it was a first come first served set up. They directed us to the balcony at first. From up there I could see some empty seats in the front row on Gerry Gerry Gerry and Woodz's side. Yippee! I grabbed the nephew and we went back down and around to get a seat. Poor kid was right in front of a four foot speaker. He ended up moving to the back to wait for me so he wouldn't lose his hearing!
The stage was very wide so I was really way to the right but, hey, it was great. I got some great pics, I think. And yes, Steve, I did it without a single flash! I got some great "bum shots" for us, Robyn. You will appreciate my angle, I think.
This auditorium was really amazing. They just sounded so awesome. Sheldon, you're right about Woodz stealing the show. He is one great guitar player. He is so animated and really looks like he's having a blast. Chas is very good too. He gets the crowd going quite often with clapping to the tunes and stuff. He's seems to really enjoy it too. I would love to see him stay on with the guys. He is a friendly and wonderful addition to the band.
I don't want to forget Willie either. He is such a talented drummer. Thanks for the drum skin, Willie and Erin. It's a wonderful addition to my growing collection of memorabilia. Thanks, too, Pete for the guitar picks. As I've said, Kaity is your biggest fan.
And finally, Dewey and guys are great. I always enjoy the shows and marvel at your ability to play and sing it so well night after night.
Okay, enough sappiness. I really enjoyed last night's show. It was a quieter, tamer night for me, thankfully. I was hoping to get some good pics and I think I did. I'll send them to Steve soon.
The hub and I will be getting to go to Casino Rama sans kids for the weekend. It should be fun. I'll keep you guys posted. Let's hope he doesn't get tooooo attached to any of the blackjack tables!!
Hey, Saved By the Bell is on TV. That's too funny. Have a great day everyone. Can't wait for the weekend!!

Message: 27171 Posted: Thu Apr 03 03:17:45 2003 By: CJ
Subject: About last night, . .

in Mentor, Ohio!! What fun seeing the tourbus parked in the parking lot of my best friend's high school - too bad she wasn't there!!!! Finally, after all these years of seeing America, I had only to drive for 20 minutes! The Boys played in the Mentor Performing Arts Building to a crowd of just over 1200 people - I even saw some familiar faces!!. Despite the tame crowd, Gerry & Dewey played a great show. Some new additions to the setlist are To Each His Own (just beautiful) and Company (!!!). I have to say, I don't know if I've EVER heard Company live in all my years of seeing America and they just nailed it! The harmonies were crisp and the delivery was simply delightful. IMO, to hear Company - my personal favorite - is worth whatever it takes to get you to a show. I didn't get to see Dewey after the show so - Hey, Dewey - THANK YOU!!!!! Fill-in Bassist, Chas, is as well-rounded addition (albeit temporary) to the Band - it's just too bad he won't be doing the road with our Boys for the long term!! He's got a voice for the harmonies, plays a mean guitar and is so witty - such personality!! Hope to see you down the road sometime, Chas - maybe I need to check out a Michael McDonald show in the summer. . .

The Boys are spending the day here before tripping off to Toronto - a little shopping, a little lunch - I'm feeling a trip to the Mall coming on. . .

Chris - Cleveland

Message: 27170 Posted: Wed Apr 02 22:07:10 2003 By: Christine
Subject: Re: Welcome Christine

Thank you Duffy i will try tyhat site, Ive also had a few replies via emails so hopefully i will have some luck.
I'm From Lincolnshire on the east side of England, not a bad place to life, A bit wet at times lol but thats England for you.
Thanks again.

Message: 27169 Posted: Wed Apr 02 21:04:38 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Mo

Hope it was happy, Moser!

as we say at my house

Hippo birdy two ewes
Hippo birdy two ewes
Hippo birdy dear ewe
Hippo birdy two ewes!

Courtesy Sandra Boynton

Message: 27168 Posted: Wed Apr 02 20:42:14 2003 By: Cindy
Subject: Mo

Happy Happy Birthday Moser!!

Message: 27167 Posted: Wed Apr 02 18:42:04 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Re: IUP Show and Happy Birthday Moser

Hi Nancy, Sheldon and Moser! Thank you for telling us about the IUP show. I'm anxious to see the pictures. It's great that you got to talk to the guys and get autographs too. I've never met them yet and I want to so much!!! I hope I get a chance to soon. So nice Sheldon that you got to see them live. I've been to three concerts (the first one was in 1978 and the most recent was Sept 1st at the NY State Fair last year).~~~Nancy, I can feel your excitement. WOW!! I am so happy that you did get to meet them. I never usually get to read the chat folder during the week until well after suppertime or later, but this morning I had some time before work and I was glad to see your post.~~Your excitement really picked me up before I went to work. I had a rough day at work today (I'm an accountant and we're working on month-end and some of the reports I was given were messed up~~not good at all). So the America tunes were playing in my office all day long carrying me through the day and helping to keep me sane (LOL) as I was trying to get the problems with my reports straightened out.~~~Gerry and Dewey, you are the best!!!~~~Moser, it's too bad that there were so many good seats wasted on a crowd that wasn't as into it as us diehards. It would be so nice to have a show just for us with songs that we don't normally hear them play live.~~I know this has been mentioned before. It would be so nice.~~Enjoy your big 40 birthday Moser and have a safe trip. Keep us posted!!! Cathy

Message: 27166 Posted: Wed Apr 02 16:40:38 2003 By: Lass
Subject: Happy B-Day Mo!!!

Mo hope you have a wonderful birthday!

Message: 27165 Posted: Wed Apr 02 16:36:51 2003 By: Lass
Subject: Re: IUP Concert

Sheldon - sounds like you had a terrific time and the show. You lucky guy....getting to meet Dewey and Gerry!!!
Thanks Nancy, Mo and Sheldon for filling us in on the concert details. I am sure that you guys more than made up for the subdued crowd.
I will be a Hershey Park on June 1 come h*ll or high water. I haven't seen the guys live since either 1979 or 80.

Message: 27164 Posted: Wed Apr 02 12:24:03 2003 By: Sheldon
Subject: IUP Concert (My First!)

April 1st, 2003 at IUP - what a day & night! We (my wife Debi & I) arrived at the hotel around 2:00 .. got our room & then walked around the hotel .. we were by the lounge & I saw a guy who looked familiar .. could it be? no, it's not.. wait, yes it is, it's DEWEY!! Immediately my legs turned to rubber! Dewey was coming out of the lounge w/ his wife, walking right towards us. Summoning all my courage I said "Hi Dewey". He said "Hey, big show tonight, huh?" I then got my wits about me enough to ask him to sign my cd cover, which he did. I asked him about his arm & he said it still bothers him some but it is getting better. I thanked him for the autograph & away he went. That was my first slice of America heaven .. shortly thereafter we met Mo at the hotel. It was great to meet her!
Got to the auditorium around 6:15, got our tickets & then had to wait outside for the doors to open at 7:15.. a while later another familiar looking lady & her husband walked up - it was Nancy! We chatted a while & then (as Nancy already posted) walked to the back of the auditorium where the bus had just pulled in. Soon, Mo & her group showed up... Let me tell ya, Mo is one fun & crazy girl! We had a ball hanging w/ her & Nancy! Around 7:45 Debi & I went in, got our seats & then I finally purchased an America t-shirt which I've wanted for a long time! Show started shortly after 8:00 .. IT WAS GREAT! These guys are so awesome! Great show! Gerry & Dewey were incredible & Michael Woods almost steals the show with his undescribable guitar playing.
We were near the back of the auditorium, just a few rows ahead of Mo. Therefore, I was unable to get any good photos during the show.
Headed back to the hotel. Debi was tired & stayed in the room while I headed straight to the lounge. Was hangin' w/ Mo & her sister & friends when in comes GERRY BECKLEY!! He said hi to everyone & then went to talk to some other people. As he was leaving he stopped by our table .. I became star-struck again so Mo was kind enough to step up to the plate for me & ask Gerry to sign an autograph for me, which he did. I then asked him to pose for a photo w/ me, which he did - Mo snapped the shot! Then he left & very shortly I did too..

I agree w/ Mo, the audience was pretty subdued for the most part although there were those who were really into it. In fact, I heard many shrieks of pleasure coming from Mo's row!

NANCY - it was so nice to meet you & your husband. We greatly enjoyed visiting with you! I wish you could've come to the hotel after the show...
MO - what can I say? You were fun, enthusiastic, generous & kind. It was so great to meet you & I had so much fun hanging w/ you & your group in the lounge. I hope that we will all meet up again at another show! You're the best! And once again, Happy Birthday! I'm right behind you - I'll be 40 in October...

Can't wait till June 1st at Hersheypark!!!!

Message: 27163 Posted: Wed Apr 02 12:18:09 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Please can any one help me

Get to know Jason, who posted right after u on the board 2day......

Message: 27162 Posted: Wed Apr 02 11:36:30 2003 By: Duffy
Subject: Welcome Christine

Christine~ Welcome and glad you’re here. For additional AMERICA items try Where about in England do you live. I spent many years just to the west of London @ High Wycombe in Bucks.

Message: 27161 Posted: Wed Apr 02 11:33:12 2003 By: Jason Smith
Subject: Hi, all

It's been a while. I haven't had a chance recently to read what's been going on. Busy at work, which is bizarre as I now work from home.

I'm off to Cornwall & Devon next week for a week of rest and to "blank" all life's strife out for a while.

I also managed to get tickets to see the US band the JAYHAWKS later this month. I don't know if anybody knows their music but I would highly recommend it. COUNTING CROWS are also over in June and I'm hoping to see them too. I regard both these bands as possibly the best new US groups of recent years.

All I need now is AMERICA come home.



Message: 27160 Posted: Wed Apr 02 09:51:11 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: WOW !!!!

Nancy, Moser, thanks so much for your concert "reviews" and experiences. Sheldon, we need your account, especially since it is the your first America concert. Wow! It sounds like you all had a great time! I wish I could have been there as well, ("A Horse With No Name" just came on the radio as I am writing this post, how appropriate!)

I wish they were coming my way again...Six Flags Over New Orleans, opens this weekend. Perhaps they will have a venue in the park for a future America concert. Hint! Hint!

Looking forward to seeing the pictures guys. Happy Birthday Mo! Have a great day!
The best to all of you,

Message: 27159 Posted: Wed Apr 02 09:34:28 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Last night show & Happy B-day Moser!

Hi there everyone!

Nancy, I was away from home today for professional reasons (btw, the news is good:-)) , but really longing to read the messages on the folder and learn about last night show. Seems you and Moser didn't enjoy it in the same way. However I'm glad in the end all of you ( including Sheldon and the other fans) had a great musical time and the opportunity to speak with the band. How great !!! Thanks for telling us about the details.

Joyeux Anniversaire, Moser! May your 40th be one of the BEST years of your life! Keep poppin' ...

Message: 27158 Posted: Wed Apr 02 09:25:59 2003 By: Christine
Subject: Please can any one help me

Hi I'm an America fan from England,and having problems purchasing Americas albums videos or dvds, I wondered if there was any more fans from England who knows where i can aquire there music. Thank you
As were not so lucky to be able to se America live here it would be nice to be able to see them on video or dvd

Message: 27157 Posted: Wed Apr 02 08:59:02 2003 By: Kristal
Subject: Hello everyone!!

I was so thrilled to hear of all the wonderful experiences from last night show at IUP. Thank you for all the posts, I was thinking about you all and wondering how your evening went. Glad to hear everyone had a great time. I wish I was there with you. I don't post here too much as you know, but I do enjoy the posts when I can get to them. Have a wonderful day and thanks again.

Kristal :0)

Message: 27156 Posted: Wed Apr 02 08:38:18 2003 By: Erin
Subject: Re: America in concert.

I would love to hear Sergeant Darkness live someday...that would be awesome.

Erin :o)

Message: 27155 Posted: Wed Apr 02 08:34:53 2003 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: For Nancy--Bread/David Gates music

Nancy, In regards to your post the other day,some of the Bread Catalog is available,but there is no actual "Box set" to be purchased. The best collection I've seen,and one that I own is the 2 CD Rhino Retrospective. You get 50 songs,and a 29 page booklet. Every chart hit is included,along with all of the David Gates solo charting hits("Goodbye girl","Never let her go" etc).There is also a single disk 20 track collection you can buy,but its just the Bread material,and a streamlined version of this 2 disk set. for your money,and for all the Bread anybody could want(LOL!)I recommend the
"Retrospective" collection.

Message: 27154 Posted: Wed Apr 02 07:50:06 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Happy 40th Mo & Nanceroo

Happy Birthday Mo and hope many more come ur way. What duz Mentor look like? See where it's on Lake Erie, northeast of Cleveland, so it has to be drab. Hope u have a great day and celebrate to the max. Eat some cake for me and save some for Gerry & Dewey.

Nanceroo, so glad you had a wonderful xperience. I could feel ur energy down to my feet;) and hope ur hub liked it as well. I'm surprised, tho, that u couldn't get the crowd more revvvvvved up, considering ur enthusiasm. Will look forward to seeing ur pix when they become available.

Until next time.............

Birthdays come and go
No matter what we do
You know yours is special to me
But that's because so are you
Since I know it's what you want
I won't make a big fuss
I'll just say: "Have a great day"
And keep the "special" between us

Message: 27153 Posted: Wed Apr 02 06:38:16 2003 By: Mary Henderson
Subject: Re : WOW & More

Oh, Nancy, I feel your excitement as I read both of your posts and I'm smiling from ear to ear for you. Sounds as if you will be in the AMERICA clouds for weeks and months to come. I wish that I would be able to meet them as you have, but as I said I would be such a nervous wreck. Can't wait to see those pics. Take care, My friend. I'm truly happy for you that you finally got to meet GERRY,GERRY,GERRY. Have a great day!!! Mary

Message: 27152 Posted: Wed Apr 02 06:12:44 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: A Little Bit More & The IUP Playlist

Hi Everyone ~~ Such a beautiful morning here, Gerry I am glad you will get to see PA under a nice blue sky blanket as you head to Mentor, Ohio... Thanks again for everything, ~~~ All my Life, I've waited for this All My Life! WOW!!!! :) Hmmmm ~~ I have one request Gerry could you please sing Happy Birthday to Mo at the Mentor Show tonight? What a dream come true birthday wish this would be for her. ~~ Hey you only turn 40 Once in a lifetime! I wish I could turn the hands of time back myself and do something similar to what Mo is doing.... WOW!!!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MO ! ~~~ Sooo glad we were able to meet each other. Thank You for the Neat Shirt and sooo much more, You are such a Kindhearted Person, this is a night I am likely to NEVER FORGET! I look forward to seeing you at more shows in the future. Enjoy your special day and may all of your wishes come to be. Have a safe trip to Ohio and have the time of your life at the show tonight, hopefully the crowd will be a more responsive one... :)

Hi Sheldon, I am anxious to hear your thoughts on the show last night, it was really nice getting to meet you and your wife. Have a safe trip back home. :)

Hi Nina ~~~ Thanks and Yes they are Sweethearts For Sure! :)

Cheers Jimmmmmmmm(bob) ~~~~ Yes soooooooo Cooooooooool that I got to meet and talk with them, and they were soo gracious to sign some stuff for me too, treasured keepsakes for sure. ~~ I took along my sister's digital camera and her digital binoculars too, I sure hope the pics that my hubby took (because my hands were shaking all night long) turned out and my sister will have to download them and I will send them to Steve as soon as possible.... What an AWESOME Feeling, I am Smiling from ear to ear here. Talk to you sooon. ;)

Hey Red ~~ I didn't get to hear YOUNG MOON, but I won't give up on saying that I want to hear this song as well as Hat Trick at a show one day soon.... Hey Red ~~ I Can't Tell You Why is playing on the radio here now :)
Okay here is the Playlist

1. Riverside
2.Ventura Hwy.
3.You Can Do Magic
4. Daisy Jane
5. To Each His Own
6. Company
7. Three Roses
8. I Need YOU
9. George Harrison's ~ I Need YOU
10. Baby It's Up To You
11. Wheels
12. Tin Man
13. Border
14. Only in Your Heart
15. Calif. Dreamin
16. Lonely People
17. Hangover
18. From a Moving Train
19. Never Be Lonely
20. Sandman
21. Sister Golden Hair
22. Encore ~~ Horse with No Name

Hmmm ~~~ I again want to say Thanks for another great show,I appreciate AMERICA's dedication and the way that you all work together to achieve this Nice AMERICA Heaven atmosphere. You can be sure I will be at every show I can possibly take in.

Have a great day everyone, see ya at live chat tonight ( I sure wish Mo had one of those wireless laptops sooo we could get a live report from the show tonight.... Hey Mo we will be with you there in our thoughts... See ya, Nancy :)

~~~~ Only in Your Heart this thing that makes you want to start it all againnnnn ~~~ Sing it Gerry :) :) :)

Message: 27151 Posted: Wed Apr 02 04:54:33 2003 By: Nina
Subject: Nancy, Mo, & Sheldon

Nancy...So glad you got to meet the guys...aren't they swethearts?

Mo...Sorry your seats stunk, and the crowd stunk...but at least you were in the presence of greatness once again!

Sheldon...It somehow slipped my mind that you, too, were attending...AND for the FIRST time! Can't wait to hear your take on things! I hope it was all you hoped for!

Message: 27150 Posted: Wed Apr 02 04:27:14 2003 By: jimbob
Subject: Re: WOW!!!!

Nancy that is so cool you met them! Get those pics posted!

Message: 27149 Posted: Wed Apr 02 01:22:16 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: WOW !!!!

Hi there everyone ~~ Yes it is me Nightowl Nancio ~~ After I got home, I just had to sit and relive this night over and over again... WOW!! I was about to go to bed, and rechecked here to find Mo's post, soooo I thought awwwwww what the heck, I will post a little now and a little tomorrow....

It was really nice getting to meet Mo and her sis and friends, and Sheldon and his wife Debbie too. I was wondering how this would work out but it just fell into line.... Me and the Hubby got there alittle later than I first expected, and I was sooo wound up, he said he was glad he wasn't around me all day LOL!!! Upon walking towards the Fisher Auditorium, I could see a couple sitting on a bench and I looked and looked again, and I said Sheldon is that You, sure enough it was him, we intoduced each other and talked some, and then walked around to the other side of the building where my hubby saw the bus pull in as he was going over to Taco Bell to grab a quick bite to eat, I was way to wound up to think about food... While we were standing over there, Pete was outside talking on a cell phone, and then along came Mo and her sis and friends.... This was sooo neat getting to meet each other for sure..... Too Much!!!

Yes Yes Yes ~~~ We did get to meet them, we did get pics with them, we did get to talk with them, and I got my things signed as well, and Nope I didn't Freeze this time, actually my nervousness left me and it was complete Bliss that took over, and you know what my wish for this night to last forever, kinda did come true, that brief time spent with them seemed to last longer than it was. Thanks sooo much Gerry & Dewey ~~ I just gotta say it again, You GUYS are the BEST!!! I got to say Hi to Woodzy, I shook hands and said welcome to Chas, and I saw Willie for a brief moment..... Sooooo Neat for sure! ~~ Hubby was afraid he wasn't gonna be able to get me away from them ~~ but I behaved myself. Then into our seats we headed..... Yes My seats were good and if only I coulda yelled loud enough for Mo to come on down to the front, there were 2 empty seats in front of me.... Unbelievable, because we were completely surrounded with filled seats..... Yes the crowd was a mixed one, alot more older alumi of IUP, and some students and I saw some couples around my age, but you know what they were not real fans, for the most part they were the Casual Fan, I think I was the only one that knew all the songs and sang them in my area, I glanced around occasionally and hardly any of them knew the songs, and yes I did yell out Gerry Gerry Gerry,~~~ Dewey Dewey Dewey ~~~ I called out Good Job Woodzy, Hey Willie and Yeah Chas.... I had some signs that I had made, but being that it was mostly dark I didn't hold them up, I didn't want to obstruct the people behind me's view.... I did have the Phila. playlist wrote down and I followed along, it was pretty much the same. I will post the playlist in a separate post. The crowd did laugh a little at Gerry & Dewey's comments.... and they did stand up upon the end of SGH, and they clapped until the Encore which was HWNN... but I must say the Crowd at the Seven Springs show in Feb 2002 was a much more alive crowd than this one... Hubby even commented on this... I had the time of my life tho anyway! I sang along with each song, and yes it left me wanting more... I asked the couple behind us if they had heard any of the Human Nature & Hourglass songs, and were they aware of Holiday Harmony & The Grand Cayman CD, but no they didn't know of any of these.... I said to them these songs are all great that they do for the show, but you really should do yourself a favor and check out some of their hidden gems that you would love them.... Sooo maybe I sparked their curiousity just a bit... I hope so!

Hi Speech ~~~ Yes I can relate with alot that you have said... I loved being in AMERICA Heaven this evening, but I can't help but wonder what an AWESOME Dream come true that would be if we were to get to hear more of their other great songs. I do have to hand it to Gerry & Dewey tho, they put their all into these each time they do them over again.... I appreciate their dedication in this way! ~~ All I can say is, that I will still have Hope to get to see a show with alot of their hidden gems in one day...

Hi Kevin ~~ Oh Yes I could handle a show with all of just their songs, but I can understand their approach at having George Harrison's "I Need You" and "Calif Dreamin", it is to add Variety and to share a touch of their History soo to speak,(nothing wrong with this either) true their shows have to appeal to the casual fans, but I still can't help but think and feel that if they were to play more of their unheard songs mixed with the well known ones.... that it can only spark their curiousity more to check into more of their music, to get a taste of these songs... I did hear the comment from behind me, now this is gonna be a night of good music.... soo the appreciation is there, it just needs to be developed more....

Hmmmmm Regarding the VFTHW Pic and Bus Pic ~~ I am kinda bummed at the Weather these past couple days, I guess I had my mind on Green too much.... It did clear up here this afternoon, and on our drive to Indiana, the skyline did show signs of the rainbow colors of the sky, most of the snow that fell on saturday and sunday nights melted, and the grass was greener out there.... The Weeping Willow trees have that Yellow Green cast to them, so they are already preparing for the summer.... Too much tho, because the next couple days it is to really be nice and warm, so this oughta bring the green alive for sure! ~~ Gerry your view from the bus pic, really captured a neat perspective angle of these rolling snow clouds and barn and the snow covered ground, the bare trees seemed to be saying something in these pics, they stand out soo much. Thanks for taking a dreary setting and giving us a different way to look at it! ~~~ Too much another brick wall VFTHW ... Hey are there any architects out there, Hey maybe take another look the next time you design a hotel or motel, try a new approach, work around a theme of some sorts and create a Frank Lloyd Right ~~ Living Waters affect.... Wow just think what the VFTHW would have looked like from there! ~~ A sight to behold for sure! :)

Okay it is time for me to head back to my big soft pillow and relive my night again and again and again.... WOW ~~ like a dream come true for sure! :) Nitey Nite everyone! Nancy :)

~~~ You can do magic, you can have anything that you desire, Magic, and you know you're the one that can light the fire, you know darn well that you cast your spell, when you hypnotize with those eyes, a heart of stone can turn to clay ~~~ dododoododdoooodododdoooododododo ~~ Sing it Gerry :) :) :) What a Magic Night For Sure!!!!

Message: 27148 Posted: Wed Apr 02 00:00:39 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Indiana, College Town, USA

Yo, from college town. I hate web TV so this will be very brief. The show was great. The audience sucked. I think perhaps me and my "posse" were the youngest ones there. Well, except perhaps Sheldon, who-it turns out-is a mere child. I think we may have corrupted the poor boy all in one evening. Sorry, Sheldon. Nancio and the Hub were there. YEA!! We had a good ole time together. It's always fun to meet fellow fanatics.
We did not have good seats, third row from the back. And those who had good seats (well except Nancio, who apparently yelled like mad) wasted them by sitting there quite comatose. You'd think a college town crowd would be hoppin' but NNNNOOOOOO!!!!!!! We hit the hotel lounge afterward to catch up a bit, then headed off to The Brown Hotel to see a friend of a friend's daughter, Leslie, play acoustic and sing cover tunes a la Joanie Mitchell, CSNY, The Violent Femmes, and CCR. Strange bedfellows if you ask me but it was good. Got back to the hootel (a Kaity word) and tried to sneak into the hottub 4 hours after it closed. Succeeded for two minutes until the rent-a-cop busted us. I guess he's gotta earn his $6/hour some way!! Off to Mentor tomorrow. Talk to you soon.
PS: The prom zit continues to take over as we speak.
PPS: I'm not proofreading this b/c it's more trouble than it is worth on Web TV. Yikes. So, sorry, if I goofed.

Message: 27147 Posted: Wed Apr 02 00:00:24 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Okay, So It Wasn't Brief

I knew something was not right. It's Joni not Joanie. Oops, sorry.

Message: 27146 Posted: Tue Apr 01 23:58:32 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Okay, So It Wasn't Brief

I knew something was not right. It's Joni not Joanie. Oops, sorry.

Message: 27145 Posted: Tue Apr 01 23:54:41 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Indiana, College Town, USA

Yo, from college town. I hate web TV so this will be very brief. The show was great. The audience sucked. I think perhaps me and my "posse" were the youngest ones there. Well, except perhaps Sheldon, who-it turns out-is a mere child. I think we may have corrupted the poor boy all in one evening. Sorry, Sheldon. Nancio and the Hub were there. YEA!! We had a good ole time together. It's always fun to meet fellow fanatics.
We did not have good seats, third row from the back. And those who had good seats (well except Nancio, who apparently yelled like mad) wasted them by sitting there quite comatose. You'd think a college town crowd would be hoppin' but NNNNOOOOOO!!!!!!! We hit the hotel lounge afterward to catch up a bit, then headed off to The Brown Hotel to see a friend of a friend's daughter, Leslie, play acoustic and sing cover tunes a la Joanie Mitchell, CSNY, The Violent Femmes, and CCR. Strange bedfellows if you ask me but it was good. Got back to the hootel (a Kaity word) and tried to sneak into the hottub 4 hours after it closed. Succeeded for two minutes until the rent-a-cop busted us. I guess he's gotta earn his $6/hour some way!! Off to Mentor tomorrow. Talk to you soon.
PS: The prom zit continues to take over as we speak.
PPS: I'm not proofreading this b/c it's more trouble than it is worth on Web TV. Yikes. So, sorry, if I goofed.

Message: 27144 Posted: Tue Apr 01 23:32:29 2003 By: rc
Subject: Re: VFTHW - Indiana, PA

lol I saw this pic and starting singing to myself...."all in all we're just another brick in the sorry...

Message: 27143 Posted: Tue Apr 01 21:48:38 2003 By: KevinS.
Subject: America in concert.

If America were to freshen up the act, I wouldn't want them doing a Beach Boy cover or, for that matter, any other cover. They have 300 songs to choose from. Bring out some of those. I've always said here that I think America's choice of coming back with a one-song encore, show after show after show, year after year after year, felt a little weak. Usually when this subject is brought up the poster is bombarded with responses like, "you don't know what you're talking about" or "you have no idea what it's like to be in a touring band" or "you don't understand the constraints put on them by the venues and promotors" or "your opinion on this matter sucks." At least it's comforting to see that that hasn't happened. Yet. But, speech, I agree with you. But, you know what? Doesn't matter. We diehard fans will come out anyway. It's the curiosity seekers who they have to appeal to.


Message: 27142 Posted: Tue Apr 01 20:50:10 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - Indiana, PA

Click here to see Gerry's view from the hotel window in Indiana. Click here to see a bonus view of the bus ride to Indiana.

Message: 27141 Posted: Tue Apr 01 13:19:39 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: I Can Hear Music

Hi Hoooo Everyone ~~~

I am going to be leaving soon, and I am about to BURST!!!! WOW!!!!!
Hey there Red I gotcha Loud and Clear :) ~~~ Yes Yes Yes I can hear Music for sure!!!! ~~~ The sun is shining melted alot of the snow and the pretty blue of the sky is showing, and ooh soo many of those fluffy cottonball clouds in the sky. ~~ Thanks for posting those nice lyrics Red , I haven't heard that song for years, I can hear it in my head tho :) Take care, Here I come AMERICA HEAVEN! :)

Take care all, I will be sure and fill you all in on the SHOW tonight.... I am walking up on those cottonball clouds right now!

Seee ya, Nancy :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

I can hear music
I can hear music
The sound of the city baby seems to disappear
I can hear music
Sweet sweet music
Whenever you touch me baby
Whenever you're near

I Can Hear Music - BB WOW ;)

Message: 27140 Posted: Tue Apr 01 11:40:03 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: A bit of "I Can Hear Music" trivia

Red, Just an added bit of trivia on "I Can Hear Music", the song was first recorded by the Ronettes for Phil Spector. It charted dismally on the Billboard charts at #100 for one week and went nowhere...The Beach Boys then recorded it and made it a top twenty hit. I think America would do agreat job with it. Take care.

Message: 27139 Posted: Tue Apr 01 11:15:42 2003 By: valynda
Subject: "Prom Zit"

Moser, your Prom Zit statement was a crack-up!! Nancy, Mo and Sheldon----I cannot wait to hear about all of your experiences at the concert!! Sheldon, Wow, your first America concert! Tell us everything!! Bye!---Valerie

Message: 27138 Posted: Tue Apr 01 10:18:11 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: New Concert

OH YES! You scared me tho. I booked a week in Vegas in August! I feared it was the same time ( thankfully it is NOT!)

Message: 27137 Posted: Tue Apr 01 10:14:23 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Re: keswick redux

Yes, I Can Hear Music would be my pick. They should do at least 1 that the BBs don't do in their concerts. Also, I think part of the California Saga could be covered also. Take care.

This is the way
I always dreamed it would be
The way that it is, oh oh
When you are holding me
I never had a love of my own
Maybe that's why when we're all alone

I can hear music
I can hear music
The sound of the city baby seems to disappear
I can hear music
Sweet sweet music
Whenever you touch me baby
Whenever you're near

I Can Hear Music - BB

Message: 27136 Posted: Tue Apr 01 10:10:31 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: keswick redux

Red, woudn't it be nice (not intended as a pun)and interesting if they did a cover of the Beach Boys' "Don't Worry Baby," "Help Me Rhonda," or "I Can Hear Music"?

Message: 27135 Posted: Tue Apr 01 09:22:31 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: New Concert

August 16, 2003
Los Angeles, CA
The Greek Amphitheatre
W/ Kenny Loggins

Message: 27134 Posted: Tue Apr 01 09:02:34 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Re: keswick redux

Well put Speech as always. The set needs spruced up immensely. I say add Hat Trick to the encore and have 2 encores with HWNN being the finale. Add a no longer done BeachBoys song to the list plus maybe a Doors song or another Mamas & Papas tune. Bring back Young Moon for a cool number.

Nancy & Mo & Sheldon, et all - me and you and a dog named Boo. Have a great time 2nite and be sure and hint to the guys to change up the songs some more. We all need change and are never too old to change. Hopefully, the new bass player will create more change.

Until next time............

If there's one thing in my life that's missing
It's the time that I spend alone
Sailing on the cool and bright clear water
It's kind of a special feeling
When you're out on the sea alone
Staring at the full moon, like a lover

Time for a cool change
I know that it's time for a cool change
Now that my life is so prearranged
I know that it's time for a cool change

Now it's time it's time it's time it's time
For a cool change
MMM MMM I know it's time for a cool change
Well, now that my life is so prearranged
I know I know I know I know
That it's time for a cool change
Yes it is, yes it is yes it is
Time for a cool change...

Cool Change - Little River Band

Message: 27133 Posted: Tue Apr 01 08:16:53 2003 By: speechwriter
Subject: keswick redux

no need for me to redundantly echo the rave reviews from the keswick show last weekend. i was there, too. it was a jewel. the show got stronger as it went on, and satisfied musically -- which is most of what i care about. at the risk of being pelted, though, i have to say this: the show is starting to take on a bit of a perfunctory feel for me. yes, the boys added "company" and the rarely performed "from a moving train." however, some of the between-songs schtick was redundant to the last keswick show, the running order was virtually the same as that show, and the finale was the same -- one tune, "hwnn," then over-and-out. gerry's crack to the effect that "we forgot one," when they came back to do "horse" was amusing, but also dead-on. i love the band. i loved the records. i loved the show. but if i choose to plunk down another $80 to see the guys again, i want some freshness, and some surprises, along with the familiar pleasures.

Message: 27132 Posted: Tue Apr 01 07:02:39 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Today's the Day

This is so great that you, Nancy and Mo will be at the same concert together! I will be with you all in spirit. I look forward to all your post concert postings. Hope you get to meet Dewey and Gerry in person. Have a wonderful time!

Message: 27131 Posted: Tue Apr 01 06:21:24 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Today's the Day ! YES YES YES!

Hi Everyone ~~~~~ Hey Mo & Sheldon have a safe trip!!! See you there! ~~~ Well we got more of the White stuff here last night and the roads are terrible, Gerry & Dewey I sure hope you are sleeping in your hotel room now... All I am hearing on the radio is roads closed due to accidents. Not a nice April Fools gift ~~ Mr Weatherman! :(

Thanks Nina, Erin, Valerie, Jimmmmm(bob), Sergio & Whit ~~~ For all the well wishes. You can Betcha I will have the Greatest time of my life, I still wished there was a way to make tonight last FOREVER! ~~ I have my stuff all ready to go that I Hope to get signed ~~ Hopefully I won't freeze this time, and I will get to say Hi to Gerry, Dewey & the band..... I am still holding out HOPES to get to Hear Dewey sing YOUNG MOON and for Gerry to sing ALL MY LIFE... It will be great getting to hear Company & From a Moving Train.... I will be in AMERICA HEAVEN no matter what songs they sing ~~ Yes Yes Yes!!!! TODAY's THE DAY ~~~ WOW WOW WOW :) :) :) :) :) :)

Hi Eddy & Sheldon ~~~ Thanks for your thoughts on about Gerry & Dewey maybe taking out the George Harrison tribute and doing a tribute to the Beach Boys ~~ I definitely agree that "God Only Knows" is a good choice for one of these songs, as well as "Wouldn't It Be Nice" Hey California Girls would be neat to hear too.... Kokomo, Good Vibrations ~~~ Soooo many neat songs that would sound great to hear them do... Hmmmm will you please think about it Gerry & Dewey????? Thanks :)

Hi Steve O ~~~ Hmmmm ~~ I was wondering if there were any newly done CD Box sets of Bread... I must admit that I mostly look for AMERICA's stuff and the newer released CD's. It would be nice to see a CD box set of Firefalls stuff. Neil Young comes to mind too.... I miss getting to hear my 8 tracks of these. I am sure I could think of more, but my mind is kinda on a one way track today, Sorry! I am still enjoying reading your weekly music articles ~~ Keep them a comin my way for sure :)

Hey Gen & Bruno ~~~ I am here keeping my fingers crossed that something will work out for you guys to get the chance to see them come your way soon.....

Ooooooh my Gerry is singing Moment To Moment here on my speakers.... Oooh how I love this song....~~~ Yes from Moment to Moment your life can change, there's a storm over the horizon, a sea you cannot see, Yes from Moment to Moment, your life can change, Promise me you'll never change, Promise me you'll stay the sameeeeee, promise me you'll never changeeeeeeeeee..... Sing it GERRY GERRY GERRY :)

Ooooh I am getting sooo excited, I gotta go now, I have some stuff to get done.... Have a great day all, I know I will for sure! Nervous Nancy :)

~~~~ Every moment is a shining light, every moment is the darkest night, every moment gotta get it right, Moment to Moment, every single Moment ~~~~~ :)

Message: 27130 Posted: Tue Apr 01 06:05:23 2003 By: Sheldon
Subject: Re: Today's the Day

We're right behind ya Mo, heading out real soon! Can't wait till tonight - my very first America concert! I am excited beyond what any words can express!!! Between me, Mo & Nancy you should all get a very detailed concert review & hopefully some good photos...


Message: 27129 Posted: Tue Apr 01 05:25:35 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Today's the Day

Headed out to the Promised Land in about 15 minutes. Can't wait.
Does anyone know the meaning of the expression, "prom zit?"

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