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Archives: November 2003

Message: 30491 Posted: Sun Nov 30 22:49:33 2003 By: Jenna
Subject: Bruno

Ciao Bruno, Way to go! Great to hear from you....just love your enthusiasm! You must be counting the days till March 2004, maybe you can make it to more than one show? Hope all's well with your family and in Southern Italy.

Message: 30490 Posted: Sun Nov 30 22:35:52 2003 By: Margaret
Subject: Re: Re: Sydney

Jimbob, alas no trip to New Zealand this time, but we will be very active here. We got front row tickets this morning for the second Sydney show. Can't wait!

Message: 30489 Posted: Sun Nov 30 20:33:04 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Triv Question

Why yes Robyn, I believe you are right!... Yes, I did mean it that way, too! ; )

Message: 30488 Posted: Sun Nov 30 18:52:01 2003 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Carols by Candlelight

Hi, Everyone-
Been so long since I've posted I forgot my user id and password.
Got tickets for Carols by Candlelight for Thursday night. Anyone else going? Jim? Matthew?
ShariL in San Diego <><

Message: 30487 Posted: Sun Nov 30 18:51:00 2003 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: test

testing password

Message: 30486 Posted: Sun Nov 30 15:45:40 2003 By: jeff brink
Subject: music...

...was thinking to myself what an updated version of "We should be free" would sound like?

... was Looking over on Jeff L's site a few minutes ago. Mix no.#5 of "What about my dreams" sounds real good. Definately looking forward to the release of this cd.

carry on.

Message: 30485 Posted: Sun Nov 30 12:14:58 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Triv Question

>>Great incite.<<
I thought you meant that it was great that we "Incited" them to play Tin Man ;)

Message: 30484 Posted: Sun Nov 30 08:37:07 2003 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: airplay has begun

Dave & all the HOLIDAY HARMONY airplay has begun in earnest.
Some good solid foundations are built slow & steady.
Soon HOLIDAY HARMONY will take on a life of it's own as the wave sweeps the nation. Play HOLIDAY HARMONY !

Message: 30483 Posted: Sun Nov 30 04:29:37 2003 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: Re: airplay has begun

sorry KESZ - FM ARIZONA with 4 plays

Message: 30482 Posted: Sun Nov 30 00:04:12 2003 By: bruno
Subject: Thanks Steve, message for Danae

Thanks Steve for information for European turnè of America
(yes Steve, Gerry and not Dan; my lapse is the result of my hope to see Dan with Dewey and Gerry).
Danae if America don't came in Grecia you came in near Italy, I give hospitality to you for concert of Naples (DANGER: my wife is not a good cook).
Hi Ciao all

Message: 30481 Posted: Sat Nov 29 21:58:57 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Triv Question

Make that, Great 'insight'

Message: 30480 Posted: Sat Nov 29 20:24:40 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: America in Europe, question for Great Steve

Hi Bruno. I'm sure you meant Gerry (not Dan) and Dewey plus the band. They are trying to visit other nations but it hasn't been confirmed yet. I'll be sure to let everyone know when it has been confirmed.

Message: 30479 Posted: Sat Nov 29 20:02:17 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Triv Question

<<Thanks to everyone who sent in their request to have AMERICA's "Tin Man" added to their playlist! Last night, C2C played "Tin Man"!!! >>

Johnny, way to go! I went to the C2C site. There were literally hundreds of other songs that people sent in as requests for bumper music. "Tin Man" must just have seemed very appropriate. Great incite.

"Some time late when things are real and people share the gift of gab between themselves..."

We did it for America. : )

Message: 30478 Posted: Sat Nov 29 13:18:07 2003 By: bruno
Subject: America in Europe, question for Great Steve

Dan and Dewey+Band, for European turnè, come only in France and Italy or come in other nations ?
thanks Steve for this wonderful site. Your work is for me an oasis of happines and an useful instrument of information. thanks.
Hi bruno

Message: 30477 Posted: Sat Nov 29 06:50:24 2003 By: jimbob
Subject: Solo Gerry

Hey Guys! Have any of you ladies thought about how good it would be having Gerry and Sting in the same band? On hearing Van Go Gan after Stings latest, I think these two could do something. There are parts of Sacred Love that sound very similar to VGG.

Message: 30476 Posted: Sat Nov 29 05:09:30 2003 By: jimbob
Subject: Re: Sydney

Hey Margaret! Frann and I are in the front row in Auckland! You guys crossing the ditch??

Message: 30475 Posted: Fri Nov 28 09:44:35 2003 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: airplay has begun

9 stations last week and 21 plays of Winter Wonderland
including this one with four

Message: 30474 Posted: Thu Nov 27 21:20:05 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Ebay Excitement

Bravo les filles !!!

Message: 30473 Posted: Thu Nov 27 20:48:26 2003 By: Margaret
Subject: Sydney

I was thrilled to see in this morning's newspaper that tickets go on sale on Monday for a second show on Saturday 31. The ad said February but I'm sure they mean January. I wish the Melbourne fans would encourage a ticket-buying frenzy so that the promoter would put on a second show there too.

Message: 30472 Posted: Thu Nov 27 19:56:39 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Ebay Excitement

<<I was trying to get the price up for mB.>>

Me, too, regarding the "Van Go Gan" shirt. That's why I placed only one bid. I'm glad to see that it went for as high as it did. That WAS fun, alright!

Message: 30471 Posted: Thu Nov 27 19:10:53 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Ebay Excitement

Glad you ladies won shirts, too. Missed you last night on the chat, Mo. Hope the computer is better.

Message: 30470 Posted: Thu Nov 27 18:55:04 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Ebay Excitement

AHA so that was YOU! lol I was just trying to get the price up for mB. I am looking forward to MY shirt as well-- I had one just like it (sans signatures) but my washer ATE it!. The GMG shirt IS an unfortunate Brown , but it is very nice anyway.

Message: 30469 Posted: Thu Nov 27 17:38:27 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Ebay Excitement

Well, it's over. mB made a handsome amount (over $90) for three t-shirts. Enterprising young man that he is. Looks like the ladies of the folder made it a clean sweep. That was fun. Looking forward to my Go Man Go apparel. Hope it doesn't look as much like a UPS uniform as I think it might!!! Happy Turkey Day from Pennsylvania.

Message: 30468 Posted: Thu Nov 27 12:47:58 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: mB's ringiiiiing the sleighbellsss for you (Yes, really ! )

And please, people, check out Matt Beckley's website at .... The four young Gods are announcing the release of their brand new Ep TODAY, named
"these are your hopes and dreams"... which will start shipping very early December (next week).
As the merch page advertises, <<the brand new 6 song ep, features 3 songs from the upcoming full length record, 2 songs from the debut ep and one bonus song>> plus <<this cd contains an extensive amount of bonus content on the enhanced cd portion of the disc.>> Go and check it out ... you'll be AMAZED !!!

Message: 30467 Posted: Thu Nov 27 12:33:09 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: David Bowie

Oh forgot to say that all the songs on the new album are really great but (1973) Life on Mars is my all time fave Bowie song... so beautiful and still so modern 30 years after...

Message: 30466 Posted: Thu Nov 27 12:16:32 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: David Bowie

Hi Jason,
Sure this concert must have been wonderful ! I saw him perform some of the new and older songs live on French TV when Reality was released and I was stocked and, frankly, went out to buy the cd the next morning (wanted to buy it but it wasn't on my priority list before). He also did a radio live show on RTL which was so very convincing. He's totally incredible and still so much the original genius he's always been.... People adore him or hate him, but noone can be indifferent to so much talent and pure genius. And his interviews always turn out so brilliant... Amazing and still a very modest, human superstar....

Message: 30465 Posted: Thu Nov 27 12:03:03 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: America (Brunoooooo!!!!)

Hi guy! Nice to hear from you! How great you're planning to bus your friends to the concert! That's amazing...
I'm SO HAPPY and EXCITED to see the guys in Europe at last ! It's been such a loooong wait, no? I'm so grateful they're trying to tour the continent and hope to catch more than one show this time... Bisous to you too... YES we Europeans are really so demonstrative, aren't we ? :-))))
Hope to hear from you soon and that your family is fine and happy...

Message: 30464 Posted: Thu Nov 27 11:11:55 2003 By: Jason Smith
Subject: David Bowie

I had the great pleasure of seeing David Bowie live at Wembley Arena on Tuesday night. To say it was fantastic is an understatement. Even my wife who grudingly came along loved it too.

He did a great mix of songs. As expected he did a fair few off this most recent album REALITY and the album before that HEATHEN. But the oldies were played too including, ASHES TO ASHES, CHINA GIRL, FAME, HEROES, LIFE ON MARS, REBEL REBEL & UNDER PRESSURE.

For the finale he played 3 songs of the Ziggy lp which got the crowd going wild. These were FIVE YEARS, ZIGGY STARDUST and HANG ON TO YOURSELF.

One of my most favourite moments (alongside LIFE ON MARS and FIVE YEARS) was an acoustic version of LOVING THE ALIEN, his 80s single from TONIGHT.

Anyway, if you ever get the chance to see the man go for it.You'll not be disappointed.


Message: 30463 Posted: Thu Nov 27 11:05:34 2003 By: Jason Smith
Subject: Eagles

A fairly overwelcoming response that the original Eagles line up was the best. Interestly a fan posed the question to Bernie Leadon recently on his web site as to whether he'd ever thought of joining forces with Randy Meisner as a duo. They could even rope in Don Felder now.

The reply was very obscure but the giste of it was "no way".

I don't think if Bernie was asked to rejoin he'd do it. But i'm not so sure about Randy. I think I recall an interview at the time of the Eagles reformation (Hell Freezes Over) that Randy said he'd never been asked if he wanted to re-join. I think he would have given the choice.

Randy's apparantly got a new solo album coming out soon. Bizarrely its a Japan only issue. Maybe he had trouble getting a recording deal anywhere else. Very sad if this is true.


Message: 30462 Posted: Thu Nov 27 09:30:02 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Triv Question

TRIV QUESTION: In regards to CoastToCoastAM, what does AMERICA now have over such great artists as James Taylor, CSNY, Little River Band, England Dan and John Ford Coley, Jackson Browne, and many other greats?

ANSWER: A current listing of one of their songs on CoastToCoastAM's "Best Of" bumper music list!!!

Thanks to everyone who sent in their request to have AMERICA's "Tin Man" added to their playlist! Last night, C2C played "Tin Man"!!!

To see "Tin Man" and the other 14 songs that were played last night, go to:

To view their "Best Of" bumper music list, just go to C2C's search engine and type in "bumper music".

THANKS AGAIN to all who helped get "Tin Man" played last night and to get AMERICA on C2C's "Best Of" bumper music list!!!

Message: 30461 Posted: Thu Nov 27 08:47:03 2003 By: Rich S
Subject: Re: Eagles.

I agree about the "hole" in the Eagles when Meisner left. If you listen to Bob Seger's "Fire Lake" which features the Eagles on background vocals, think of what it would sound like without Randy Meisner's strong vocal. I think they lost a large part of their identity when Randy left.

Message: 30460 Posted: Thu Nov 27 07:24:38 2003 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving

Wishing everyone here and their families a safe and Happy Thanksgiving. Enjoy.

Message: 30459 Posted: Wed Nov 26 22:37:55 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving ~ Is the Pumpkin Pie done yet Red???

Hi Hoooo Everyone :) Nightowl Nancy here, yep I know it is soooo late, but I just wanted to wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving, I hope your Turkey is filled with the Bestest of the Best Stuffing! ENJOY :)

Hey there Mo ~~~ Darn our puters, don't they know they aren't allowed to get sick! My fax modem for my work puter burned up.... and I can't get on the net at all with it ~~ Booo Hooooo :( ~~ Us NoLifer's sure did miss you at live chat... I hope you were able to hear my reply to your Gerry Chant request ~~ :) I got there sooo late again, as usual anymore, but was happy to find Karen, Traveler, & Red there, and soooooo Great to seee Mary come join us, what a surprise! Nice seeing you Jenna & Anita, Gee Jacko(wow~what a fast exit), I hope I haven't missed anyone, my big brown eyes are going closed, closed, closed.... :)

Hmmm ~~ I just wanted to let you all know I got some good news at my drs. app. today.... Yep, I have alot to be thankful for, the BIG S word isn't in my diagnosis for now.... He said that he feels with time, the numbness and tinglings in my fingers and the dull ache will leave my arm and neck... He said at this time he wouldn't operate, unless it gets worse, or if this numbness moves to my left side... Sooo ~~ I left there Smiling for sure! :) :) :)

It has been sooo long since I posted and I have sooo much more too say, but it will have to wait for another time.... I am soooooooo Tired and I can hear my big soft pillow calling my name.... I have been listening to some really great songs and I wanna tell you all about them... SOOOOOON! :) Stay tuned :)

Cute Thanksgiving story Steve L :)

Caio Bruno ~~ I am soooooooooo Happy that AMERICA is coming your way for a Show next spring.... Enjoy, Enjoy, Enjoy!!! I'd be willing to bet you will be needing your handkerchief, to wipe away some Happy Tears from your eyes when you see them! Take care and let the Count Down begin! :)

Yeppers Redddddd ~~ I sure hope Bob Seger sings Night Moves, Like a Rock, Someday Lady You'll Accompany Me, :) ;) ~~ I sure hope JB sings She's Got to be Somebody's Baby & I would be in Heaven if he sang That Girl Could Sing.... I am a hoping he sings Alive in the East too... soo many great songs... My wondering mind too is wondering who will introduce both of these that night.... It would be great if Timothy B would join him and sing their nice version of "Let it Be Me" ~~ WOW that would be sooo Neat! :) ;) ~~ I sure hope you got your Pies out of the oven before they burned... Yum Yum Yum :)

Okay ~~ Let the Holiday Harmony Requesting Begin ~~ I have been working on that with my DJ Friends... I am sooo looking forward to hearing more than one of them playing throughout the day... :) :) :)

Nitey Nite Everyone ~~ Thanks a Bunch for letting me share the gift of gab with all of you this way! :)

~~~ Love & Joyful, Peaceful, Patient, Kind & Good & Full of Faith, Self Control, & Gentle for the Heart of Heaven Beats this way ~~ Ooooo I pulled up to the stop sign and I saw him standing there, the carboard sign he held said "He was Hungry" I looked the other way, waited for the Light to change, as if to say I'd Help, but I'm in such a Hurry, these are the Moments of Truth, Oooooh yes they are, what would Love have me dooo, Oooooh Heartbeat of Heaven, I want you to be my Own,oooooh wooo Heartbeat of Heaven, I want my life to show, the kind of Love that comes engolfed with the Heartbeat of Heaven ~~~ Take it from there Steven Curtis Chapman :) ~~ Hmmm Please be sure and say a Prayer for all your Brother's feeling Blueeee, feeling Blueee ~~ Sing it Dewey :)

Ahhhhhhhh ~~ Gerry is just starting to sing Sunrise ~~ Sunset in my headphones....... WOW DOUBLE WOW ~~ Ooooooooh how I LOVE THIS SONG!!!! Thanks Gerry ~~ Ooooh Howww I am Hankerin for You to send Us a BONUS PIC soon! :) I HOPE You ALL are Enjoying Your time off, Happy Thanksgiving!!!! :)

Message: 30458 Posted: Wed Nov 26 21:45:54 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Eagles.

<<I think the loss of Randy Meisner put a huge hole in their sound. His was a unique, memorable and powerful voice. You can't replace a thing like that.>>

Kevin, glad you enjoyed the article. I agree with you about Randy Meisner. His voice is, high energy, very intense.

<<The other "fact" here is that Randy Meisner recorded on, and contributed a fine song to, what is generally regarded as the Eagles most important and enduring work -- the Hotel California LP. I loved the Bernie Leadon era stuff, and the treatment afforded his legacy is an insult. But Randy Meisner can lay legitimate claim to having been an important part of a historic rock-and-roll recording.>>

Well said Speech, and thank for the "substance" that accompanied your opinion. I too saw them, in the summer or '75, in Tucson. It was during the "One Of These Nights" concert tour. As a back drop for the stage, there was a huge image of the likeness of the steer skull, like that which appears on the cover of the "One Of These Nights' album. When one of the songs from that album was played, the image would be lit up. Quite impressive. The technical execution and the sound mix was nothing short of perfect. I thought the high point of the night was when the band broke into "One Of These Nights". As soon as the crowd recognized that song, I thought the place was going to come down. That, however, was surpassed when Mr. Frey inserted the 2 words, "right here" during the line, "...and I want to sleep with you in the desert tonight ( ) with a million stars all around", from the song,"Peaceful Easy Feeling".

Meisner's and Leadon's contribution to the Eagles is immeasurable. Without their presents in the early days, the Eagles could not be what they are, today.


Message: 30457 Posted: Wed Nov 26 19:24:14 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: A Thanksgiving Story

The Parrot

A young man named John received a parrot as a gift. The parrot had a bad attitude and an even worse vocabulary. Every word out of the bird's mouth was rude, obnoxious and laced with profanity. John tried and tried to change the bird's attitude by consistently saying only polite words, playing soft music (lots of America, of course) and anything else he could think of to "clean up" the bird's vocabulary. Finally, John was fed up and he yelled at the parrot. The parrot yelled back. John shook the parrot and the parrot got angrier and even ruder. John, in desperation, threw up his hands, grabbed the bird and put him in the freezer. For a few minutes the parrot squawked and kicked and screamed. Then suddenly there was total quiet. Not a peep was heard... for over a minute.

Fearing that he'd hurt the parrot, John quickly opened the door to the freezer. The parrot calmly stepped out onto John's outstretched arms and said "I believe I may have offended you with my rude language and actions. I'm sincerely remorseful for my inappropriate transgressions and I fully intend to do everything I can to correct my rude and unforgivable behavior."

John was stunned at the change in the bird's attitude. As he was about to ask the parrot what had made such a dramatic change in his behavior, the bird continued, "May I ask what the turkey did?"


Message: 30456 Posted: Wed Nov 26 17:36:38 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: America

Hi Bruno. I'm glad that America will be able to make it over there next year. I'm sure they'll put on a great show!

Message: 30455 Posted: Wed Nov 26 16:55:51 2003 By: Alan
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving

Just wanted top wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving out there.


Message: 30454 Posted: Wed Nov 26 15:19:16 2003 By: bruno
Subject: America

I'm very Happy (a great Kiss to Genevieve) America in Italy!!.
I go Naples to see this legendary Band. I see America in old 1982.
I organize a bus to go with my friends ( all appreciate Dewey and Gerry (and Dan)+band) to Naples (this city is near Agropoli).
Hi all ( I have a little handkerchief to hide furtive little tear of melancholy for music of Dewey-Gerry and Band. Music of America is for me spring of numerous memory).
bruno Ciao Steve, Johnny Yee, Nancy and all

Message: 30453 Posted: Wed Nov 26 15:18:31 2003 By: Robsl
Subject: Artists that just got into Hall of Fame

Hey everyone,
I've been reading the posts lately, but I've been so busy it's been hard to find a spare couple minutes to post. Anyways, I thought I would add my comments to the topic of the new artists to get inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I am pretty happy that the artists who did get in got in, but of course there is a certain very important band of the seventies that has a habit of starting their album titles with the letter H that really should have gotten inducted but that didn't get inducted.
I'm going to go through the inductees...
George Harrison. I'm a big fan of George, and his solo greatest hits album has some really great songs on it. He was a bit underrated as a guitar player, because John and McC. overshadowed him but he was great even when playing in their shadow. He said one of my favorite quotes about music ever made (Really, one of my favorite quotes in general) when he said this, "Art (like music) is an insignificant attempt at reproducing what God does every moment."
Bob Seger. I'm really happy for Bob Seger, he is a great artist and probably should have gotten inducted into the hall of fame years ago. IT's nice to see him get some recognition. He wrote so many great songs. The song "Night Moves" is always a classic, also "Fire Lake" "MAinstreet" "Shakedown" "We've Got Tonight" "Old Time Rock and Roll" "Still the Same" "Turn the Page" "You'll Accompany Me" "Katmandu" "Hollywood Nights" "Against the Wind" etc. IT's great that he is finally in the hall of fame.
Jackson Browne. I am glad to see this songwriter get in as well. He's a friend to the guys in America, and he has a really great voice. I love his 70s songs like Runningg on Empty, Doctor My Eyes, and his eighties stuff was very cool too, he stayed with the guitar/piano sound instead of getting really into electronic stuff. Good artist. MAybe if the critics are getting JB into the Hall of Fame, America will get in soon.
Prince. This guy is a great songwriter too, he is always pretty experimental but he has still managed to create some catchy hooks over the years. Some people say he isnt really rock and roll, but I say he is a great guitarist, and if you hear songs like "When Doves Cry" "Let's Go Crazzy" and others then you hear his rock and roll side.
Traffic. I'm not a huge fan of this band , although the people who like Traffic seem to really be big on them. So I guess they have definitely carved out a niche and they were pretty ahead of their time. Steve Winwood has some good songs as a solo artist, I gotta admit the only song I can think of right now by Traffic is Feeling Alright.
ZZ Top. These guys are a cool band , probably the biggest ever boogie rock band, they definitely have in that style of rock music the status as masters. They've been putting out albums for quite a while, too. Definitely a band that has a devoted fan base.
The Dells. This pick is maybe a little bit on the borderline. I mean, yeah they've been around since 50's and they 're a great harmony group, but they only had a couple big songs. I think the Spinners should get inducted, they've been around for about 40 years too.
Pretty good picks overall. I'm really happy about George, Bob, JB, and Prince getting inducted. I hope that AMerica makes it next year, and I look forward to the induction ceremonies where we get to see the inducted artists and other big rock singers/musicians play together on stage.

Message: 30452 Posted: Wed Nov 26 13:31:15 2003 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: reply to my reply

I went digging from my old emails - Thank you for putting up with some of the ones I put out there - I didn't realize how much I babble.
Just feel lucky I don't have your phone numbers...Anyway perhaps the bottom three stations may be the best place to start...
This one is notable form last December:

Subject: Christmas in Ct/Winter Wonderland at No 27

We are looking at 2 inches of freezing rain, sleet and now snow..Suppose to get another 5 inches tonight. Merry Christmas!!! And oh by the way Winter Wonderland went from 33 stations and 81 plays to 41 stations and 140 plays if my math is right... I went by the website not the magazine and I've had a little Christmas Cheer.. I get it in the mail on Friday.. I looks like it will be 27th on the chart. I could be off here or there. 3 stations played the song 10 times or more.

KVKI - Shreveport, LA - 12 times
KJOY - Long Island, NY - 16 times
WHLT - Grand Rapids, MI - 11 times

Message: 30451 Posted: Wed Nov 26 13:18:11 2003 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: Re: Holiday Harmony Radio Contact List - 1st respnse

I emailed every radio station I could on the list today and sent the same message below....

My first response was from

We loved that song last year and we'll put it on! Thanks for listening.

-----Original Message-----
From: Balletto, David C []
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:18 PM
Subject: America's Christmas Cd

Last year America's Christmas CD became popular. I enjoyed Winter Wonderland. Could you please play if not Winter Wonderland, some song from it. Thank you

Message: 30450 Posted: Wed Nov 26 12:26:43 2003 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Holiday Harmony Radio Contact List

By the way GERRY & DEWEY were very appreciative of all the support that people did in getting radio airplay for HOLIDAY HARMONY last year. You all made a big difference & really stirred things up very positively for AMERICA.

Message: 30449 Posted: Wed Nov 26 10:17:23 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: A Thanksgiving hello, "All Around" and some heartfelt thoughts

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

For me Thanksgiving has a very special meaning. Like modern day "pilgrims" my parents and I left our homeland (Cuba) due to religious and political persecution 43 years ago. We were so fortunate to come to this great country with an opportunity to begin again. It has been an honor and a privilege for us to have become part of America's tapestry. Given that, this very fortunate modern day "pilgrim" has a lot to be thankful for, Thanksgiving Day is always a great day to reaffirm my humble gratitude.

Today, riding to work, I was listening to America's song "All Around" and I felt it was appropriate for the season. It's all about feeling as ONE with the world that surrounds us, and what better way to feel on such a holiday as Thanksgiving? "All Around" with its soaring melody line and our musical heroes'beautiful harmonies, it's truly a perfect "feelgood" song for the Thanksgiving holiday.

May you all have a blessed and safe Thanksgiving, my best wishes to all,

Sir Joe

Message: 30448 Posted: Wed Nov 26 10:01:43 2003 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Joe Walsh, Timothy B and Gerry B


Thanx for being honest, I was just curious since I've never heard of the artist before. I got a couple of Cd's on my X-mas list (one being Robert Lamm's new one) & was wondering if this one was worth bidding on , & making the list. Thanx again for the info!
I know I don't post that often, but just wanted to wish everyone here a happy Thanksgiving.
Take Care!

Message: 30447 Posted: Wed Nov 26 09:34:49 2003 By: speechwriter
Subject: Re: Eagles.

The other "fact" here is that Randy Meisner recorded on, and contributed a fine song to, what is generally regarded as the Eagles most important and enduring work -- the Hotel California LP. I loved the Bernie Leadon era stuff, and the treatment afforded his legacy is an insult. But Randy Meisner can lay legitimate claim to having been an important part of a historic rock-and-roll recording. I had the privilege of seeing the Eagles at the Spectrum in Philly in 1973, right around the time that Desperado was being ignored in record stores following the buzz created by the debut record. They rocked with surprising ferocity, and the ballads came off well, too. On a bill that included Billy Preston, Dr. Hook and the Medicine Show, Lou Reed and Slade, they had no competition.

Message: 30446 Posted: Wed Nov 26 08:57:23 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Happy Thankfullness

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone and safe travels to all who are venturing out to grammy's or in-law's or out-law's or wherever.

I'll miss all you "no-lifers" at chat tonight because my puter is sick and in the shop. I will be thinking of you guys. Enjoy. Have a Gerry Gerry Gerry chant or two for me, will you?

Message: 30445 Posted: Wed Nov 26 07:20:59 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Joe Walsh, Timothy B and Gerry B

Hi Eddy,

Quite frankly, to me it's as if none of the guys (Gerry, Timothy B, or JD Souther) provided their vocals to the CD. I can't really hear them distinctly. Had I not read the liner notes, I wouldn't have even known Gerry's vocals were present. How's that for "promoting" my own sale? :0) To say otherwise would be untrue, I feel. Maybe it's just me that can't hear their voices clearly. Perhaps others who have this CD can offer their opinion as well.

Message: 30444 Posted: Wed Nov 26 06:24:29 2003 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Joe Walsh, Timothy B and Gerry B

Hey Johnny!

How's the CD sound to you? Any good tracks on it?
With the guest artists on it, it really sounds interesting!
I was thinking of bidding on it.......

Message: 30443 Posted: Wed Nov 26 04:55:02 2003 By: Goanna
Subject: Re: Eagles.

And in regards to the Eagles... I guess the good thing about the 2 x America websites most of us venture on is that you don't have to pay $60.00 a year to find out the goss....! or a few tid bits you could get from other sites anyway....

Message: 30442 Posted: Tue Nov 25 21:04:56 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Joe Walsh, Timothy B and Gerry B

Speaking of Joe Walsh and Timothy B earlier, there's currently a CD that was listed several days ago on eBay (by "someone") that features their artistry on one or several of the songs. In addition, it features Gerry as a background vocalist on at least two songs. This CD is that of a relatively unknown country artist...well unknown to me until not too long ago. On one of the songs, Gerry's credited along with Timothy B and JD Souther as a background vocalist.

If you should care to check it out, it's eBay item #2575749466.

Message: 30441 Posted: Tue Nov 25 20:15:10 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Holiday Harmony Radio Contact List

Last year we put together a Holiday Harmony Radio Contact List with links and information about radio stations who were or might be playing Christmas songs from Holiday Harmony. Several of the tracks from this Christmas classic received quite a bit of airplay and with our frequent requests, we can see that it happens again this year. I don't know if all of the information or links are accurate because they haven't been updated since December 5th of last year. But my guess is that most of them are still right. Let me know if you have additional information or any corrections and I'll do my best to keep it updated.

Message: 30440 Posted: Tue Nov 25 19:03:59 2003 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: K- B- TOYS

Yeah ! Yeah ! HOLIDAY HARMONY will carve out it's place among a very crowded area - Holiday Music. HOLIDAY HARMONEY yeah !!!

Message: 30439 Posted: Tue Nov 25 18:25:19 2003 By: Alan
Subject: Eagles/JB, etc.

Just caught up with the posts for the last week. Great news about Jackson Browne and Bob Seger! They are certainly "due". I know another band that is "due" as well and I hope it happens one day (I think you all know who I am referring to).

It is too bad to see a lack of material from Bernie Leadon on the latest Eagles compilation. I absolutely LOVE "Train leaves Here This Morning" (co-written by BL and Gene Clark) and I think the touching tribute to Gram Parsons - My Man - is one of the most beautiful songs ever written. My favorite Eagles albums are defintely their earlier ones, but I have always been a big fan of both Timothy B and Joe Walsh as well. Having seen the "later" Eagles in concert in 1994, I have to say that Joe Walsh was most entertaining, in his own quirky, off-beat way. I doubt the concert would have been nearly as entertaining without him. I do wish they had played more of their older songs. The vast majority of the show consisted of songs from Hotel California and The Long Run, and solo Henley, Frey and Walsh stuff.



Message: 30438 Posted: Tue Nov 25 17:49:57 2003 By: Jenna
Subject: Common Thread: Songs of the Eagles

Mo, I picked up this cd as a gift for a friend after I heard you mention it recently. As a huge Eagles and country fan...she also gave it a great review! I'll have to pick one up, interesting renditions on some songs. Great to hear from you Red Oak!

Message: 30437 Posted: Tue Nov 25 17:38:17 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Eagles.

To say that the Eagles wouldn't be what they are today without the addition of Walsh and Timothy B is a very interesting comment.

I'm not saying that either artist isn't a wonderful addition to the Eagles because they are. I'm just saying that the #1 selling LP of ALL TIME is the Eagles' "Greatest Hits" from 1971-1975. That was WITH Randy Meisner and Bernie Leadon present and BEFORE the addition of Walsh and Schmit. It's not the Eagles' "Greatest Hits Volume 2" WITH Walsh and Timothy B and WITHOUT Meisner and Leadon that holds that #1 spot. Those are the facts.

Message: 30436 Posted: Tue Nov 25 14:48:16 2003 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: K- B- TOYS

Went through the mall today and they had Christmas songs playing - Yep Winter Wonderland came on after Elvis' Blue Christmas - Is it time to bombard the radio stations with email???

Message: 30435 Posted: Tue Nov 25 14:06:10 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Legitimate... no, really

Hey, Matt, great to see you posting here! I did see those on eBay and they sure are tempting . . .

Message: 30434 Posted: Tue Nov 25 13:47:33 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Legitimate... no, really

Hey, Matt, great to see you posting here! I did see those on eBay and they sure are tempting . . .

Message: 30433 Posted: Tue Nov 25 13:46:31 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Dewey Dewey Dewey...Finn?

Mo, I saw the movie and it's great! I don't think we'd mistake the Jack Black/Dewey character for our Dewey, but he sure can rock!

Message: 30432 Posted: Tue Nov 25 12:32:34 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Dewey Dewey Dewey...Finn?

Jack Black plays Dewey Finn in the movie "School of Rock." I haven't seen it yet but hope to soon. It looks good. He's a guitarist (fitting) in the movie who takes over a substitute teacher's job. He teaches the kids to be rock and rollers. Anyway, just found out his character's name today and thought it was worth a mention. Great rock and roll name...Dewey, eh?

Message: 30431 Posted: Tue Nov 25 11:59:45 2003 By: Danae
Subject: Re: Legitimate... no, really (off topic!)

Really didn't expect to hear from you, Matt!!!
Hope to see your posts often here.
May I ask you a favor? Do you know anything about concerts in Greece? Send me an e-mail if you learn something (to

Message: 30430 Posted: Tue Nov 25 10:50:50 2003 By: mBluLight
Subject: Legitimate... no, really

in a world of fakes, i can actually vouch for these... the last of the prototypes (winter cleaning):


Message: 30429 Posted: Tue Nov 25 10:08:58 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Eagles.

While it's hard to argue that Randy Meisner wasnt an integral part of the early Eagles, they would not be what they are today, had it not been for the addition of Joe Walsh & Timmy. After seeing them live many times, I could not imagine Randy & Bernie still with them. That would not be a pretty picture. Got to hear James Dean last concert and it was outstanding. Saving my money for the next Eagles tour!!!!

Thank you Mo for the kind words. During my recent rehab assignment at the nursing home, I overheard the following:

Subject: Conversation Overheard At The Nursing Home

Conversation overheard at the nursing home

At a nursing home a group of seniors were sitting around talking about all their ailments.

"My arms have gotten so weak I can hardly lift this cup of coffee," said one .

"Yes, I know," said another. "My cataracts are so bad I can't even see my coffee."

"I couldn't even mark an 'X' at election time, my hands are so crippled,"volunteered a third.

"What? Speak up! What? I can't hear you!" said a fourth.

"I can't turn my head because of the arthritis in my neck," said a fifth, to which several nodded weakly in agreement.

"My blood pressure pills make me so dizzy I can hardly walk!" exclaimed another.

"I forget where I am, and where I'm going," said an elderly gent.

"I guess that's the price we pay for getting old," winced an old man as he slowly shook his head.

The others nodded in agreement.

"Well, count your blessings," said one woman cheerfully, "thank God we can all still drive."

Attitudes are contagious. Mine might kill you.........

Message: 30428 Posted: Tue Nov 25 09:17:35 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Eagles

Listening to "Common Thread: The Songs of The Eagles" done by various country artists. Good CD. Makes me think of Red Oak. Good to see your face 'round here again Red. Welcome back.

Message: 30427 Posted: Tue Nov 25 08:30:51 2003 By: KevinS.
Subject: Eagles.

Vic: Great article on the Eagles. I think the loss of Randy Meisner put a huge hole in their sound. His was a unique, memorable and powerful voice. You can't replace a thing like that.


Message: 30426 Posted: Tue Nov 25 08:08:28 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Eagles Compilation

Since the subject has temporarily turned to the Eagles, I found an article about the, Brown/Souther/Tempchin, royalties settlement suit, which is old news by now. However, the author of the article has an interesting take on the "evolution" of the Eagles' music. You may or may not agree with his take. I felt that it was a fair assessment.

Here is the link:

Scroll past the first four paragraphs. The article begins... " I will take this opportunity to pontificate on the Eagles..."

America has certainly gone through their own evolutionary process, which has been discussed here quite often. I suppose every band has. For better or for worse, it is inevitable.

Message: 30425 Posted: Tue Nov 25 04:26:26 2003 By: Jason Smith
Subject: Re: Eagles Compilation

There's a few additions to this CD which don't normally appear on their previous greatest hits packages. Most notably MIDNIGHT FLYER sung by Randy Meisner and ON THE BORDER.

I'm not impressed though. Being a fan of the original line up there's still no showing of BERNIE LEADON which is a crime. Also if you notice nearly all the songs featured don't have writing credits to either Leadon or Meisner expect of the usual two WITCHY WOMAN which Bernie co-wrote with Henley and Randy's Take it To the Limit.

All the new tracks are by outside writers, Ol' 55 (Tom Waits), Midnight Flyer (P Craft) etc. It would have been nice if the original lineup did once get a look in but it don't think it will ever happen which is a real pity. Being a huge fan of the Eagles I do feel a genuine sadness against the current band for thier pettiness against the absent original members. Even their box set was a misrepresentation focusing mostly on the Frey/Henley partnership.

It would be like Gerry and Dewey trying to erase Dan's contributions from thier early albums.

I even heard that during their induction to the Rock and Roll hall of Fame Leadon and Meisner weren't allowed to play on the live version of TAKE IT EASY even though they played on the original. Apparently Joe Walsh and Tim Schmitt played their bits for them.

The good news though is that both Leadon and Meisner are busy doing thier own projects. I've mentioned before that Bernie Leadon now has a new album out, his first ever solo album called MIRROR. I'm still awaiting my copy and will let you know what I think once i get it. Bernie also has a new web site - Visit this if you get the chance as Bernie is often online and will answer questions quite happily.


Message: 30424 Posted: Tue Nov 25 01:39:49 2003 By: Goanna
Subject: Eagles Compilation

The Eagles have recently bought out their latest compilation of "Greatest Hits" CD... has anyone bought this and what was your opinion...? I though I could hear some subtle changes to some of their oldies listed... Maybe I'm hearing things...anyone else?

Also, has the lawsuit that Don Felder took out against other members been resolved...?

see ya


Message: 30423 Posted: Mon Nov 24 15:07:06 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Guess the place

Here's a link to some information about the landmark and it even mentions America and their greatest hits album:

Message: 30422 Posted: Mon Nov 24 13:24:37 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Guess the place

Has to be Crossroads of the World.

Yes it is! That was too easy I guess. But it's kinda neat to see anyway.

Message: 30421 Posted: Mon Nov 24 13:06:54 2003 By: Danae
Subject: Re: Mrs. Beckley (for Sergio)

Yes. In one pic you gn see Gerry kissing her and in another one they are sitting together on the piano.

Message: 30420 Posted: Mon Nov 24 13:05:50 2003 By: Rich S
Subject: Re: Guess the place

Has to be Crossroads of the World.

Message: 30419 Posted: Mon Nov 24 12:55:49 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Guess the place

Ok Since I am in the midst of moving yet ANOTHER library, I have been driving up and down Sunset Boulevard. I pass a lot of places famed in song and story ( the branch itself is about a block from the famous "Sunset Grill") Every day I pass a building which has a strong connection to America. Can anyone guess what it is? Hint- you have all probably seen this building in a sketch.

Message: 30418 Posted: Mon Nov 24 12:03:40 2003 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Jackson

Bout time for Jackson Browne. Also, the motown man, Bob Seger, finally made it. I can hear Night Moves playing in the wind. Nancy's favorite, Prince, also will be inducted:);) Should be a jammin time at the ceremonies. Hope JB duz That Girl Could Sing.

The secret to success is knowing who to blame for your failures.

Message: 30417 Posted: Mon Nov 24 10:47:34 2003 By: Rich S
Subject: Jackson

Anyone see where Jackson Browne will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame next year? Congratulations to Jackson!

Message: 30416 Posted: Mon Nov 24 09:27:51 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Mrs. Beckley


Thank you for sharing the pics. They really capture the excitement of the concert. Just a question- Is Kathy the lady in profile(on stage) that looks like Meg Ryan?


Message: 30415 Posted: Mon Nov 24 09:03:31 2003 By: pcbwu
Subject: Bumper Music C2C

Hey John, great idea! I too am an avid listener of Coast to Coast (since 1997) and I can't think of a nicer song to request for late night. I'm on my way to do so right now!

Message: 30414 Posted: Sun Nov 23 16:59:45 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Mrs. Beckley

and if i look REALLY CAREFULLY at the crowd, I can spot me with my dd and my dh in the third row for that awesome show! Which brings me to this-- who ELSE is going on New Year's this year? It would be fun to meet up with you. dh and I are going --- dd is not old enough to get in to this one :(

Message: 30413 Posted: Sun Nov 23 13:27:29 2003 By: Danae
Subject: Mrs. Beckley

There are some Kathy's pics in the site -or I suppose so (for those who don't know, Kathy is Gerry's wife).
Go to the following URL's to see them:

Notice the last photos in each url. Aren't they wonderful?

I'm sorry, girls.

Message: 30412 Posted: Sun Nov 23 10:16:53 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Bumper Music


I just sent an e-mail to the address you posted also requesting "Tin Man"~ a very appropriate choice! Thanks for the suggestion. Hopefully others will join in the request.

Sir Joe

Message: 30411 Posted: Sat Nov 22 23:48:41 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: European Concerts (off topic!)

<<Have you been to Carcassonne?>>
Oh yesss, many, many times on various occasion (it's really close from here). During the summer time they organize great concerts & festivals within the old medieval city walls... acoustically outstanding!

Message: 30410 Posted: Sat Nov 22 17:28:49 2003 By: Erin
Subject: Re: European Concerts (off topic!)

Gen...Biarritz was amazing. We stayed at the Sofitel right on the water. Huge balcony with a great ocean view. Ate at a really great Mexican place. You are so lucky to live there. Have you been to Carcassonne?

Message: 30409 Posted: Sat Nov 22 12:39:16 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Bumper Music

I sent my request already for "Tin Man". The link is now gone. If anyone else would like to submit their request, it can be done by directly sending an e-mail message to the following address:

Since CoastToCoastAM is a late night radio talk show, I thought the beginning lyrics to "Tin Man" would be a very fitting song to be used as bumper music.


So, do it for AMERICA!!!

Message: 30408 Posted: Sat Nov 22 11:11:33 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: European Concerts

Hi Erin!
<<Gen...where in France are you? >>
Perpignan area - on the Mediterranean sea, south of Montpellier, only a few miles from Spanish border ... 'southernest' part of the country... not very far from Riviera (which is called 'Côte d'Azur' here). Think sun & vacations... approximatively same climate as California ...
Btw, how did you like Biaritz? (think I remember you went there too, no?)
Hope everyone is having a great week-end.

Message: 30407 Posted: Sat Nov 22 10:55:44 2003 By: Erin
Subject: Re: European Concerts

Wow...what a great European schedule! I spent time in Rome, Nice, Genoa (the first place I went after I got engaged!)and Paris last May. Beautiful!! Wish I could afford another trip in March! Gen...where in France are you?

Message: 30406 Posted: Fri Nov 21 21:16:38 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Bumper Music (Correction)

It should be: WWW.CoastToCoastAM.Com

Message: 30405 Posted: Fri Nov 21 21:02:36 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Bumper Music

I'm sure some of us here besides me have probably visited a website named WWW.CoastToCoast.Com. It's the website for the nationwide (U.S.) late night radio talk show, "Coast To Coast With George Noory". Its better known former fulltime host was Art Bell who is now "just" the weekend host. Anyway, on the show's website is the opportunity to submit requests for bumper music. For those who may not know what bumper music is, it's music clips played right before and/or after the talk segments (usually right before and after the commercials).

Currently at the bottom of the site's home page (it may be subject to change at any minute though), there's a list of the 15 bumper music songs from last night's show. There's also the opportunity for visitors to the site to submit their requests for future bumper music songs to be played.

Wouldn't it be cool if we all could make a concerted effort via their e-mail address to submit an AMERICA song request to be used as one of their bumper music songs? Check it out and maybe we can all agree on a particular AMERICA song to submit as a request. I'm sure with a group effort, it would be quite easy to get an AMERICA song clip played.

Message: 30404 Posted: Fri Nov 21 12:26:55 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: European Concerts

Oh GREAT, GREAT, GREAT !!! Hope those are confirmed ... soon. Thanks Erin and Steve for keeping us informed. Think I can make it to to the Nice concert too (not VERY far from my place)... unless there's a show in Barcelona, Spain (which would be closer then). Anyway, this made my day! Thank you, thank you...
Hi everyone here ! Hope everyone is well and happy.

Message: 30403 Posted: Fri Nov 21 12:12:14 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: European Concerts

The following is a list of PENDING dates for Europe. Erin is only able to let me know about the shows in France and Italy at the moment. There are more to come soon.

3/5 Nice, France / Centre Cultural
3/6 St. Etienne, France / Le Palais des Spectacles
3/7 Paris, France / Olympia
3/10 Rome, Italy / Teatro Santa Cecilia
3/11 Naples, Italy / Palapartenope
3/12 Catania, Italy / Palacatania
3/15 Milan, Italy / Auditorium
3/16 Genoa, Italy / Mazda Theatre

Message: 30402 Posted: Thu Nov 20 20:50:39 2003 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Carols By Candlelight

Went to it, very nice to see GERRY & DEWEY perform w/other famous performers. They did some holiday songs as a group with each person handling various song parts. So indeed it was neat to see & hear GERRY & DEWEY in a not so familiar musical set-up. GERRY & DEWEY really shined on that evening & you could see the overwelming approval of both the audience & their peers. Soon it will be HOLIDAY HARMONY time ...

Message: 30401 Posted: Thu Nov 20 18:53:14 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Re: Happy Belated Birthday, Sheldon!

Hi Sheldon~~I am hoping to make it to the Bethlehem show, but am still trying to work a few things out. It would be nice to meet you and other America fans there. Nancy, can you make it? If anyone else is going, let us know.~~Cathy

Message: 30400 Posted: Thu Nov 20 18:51:57 2003 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Music Question (Another "Fitzgerald Wreck")

I swore it was the Skipper and Gilligan

Message: 30399 Posted: Thu Nov 20 18:51:56 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Music Question (Another "Fitzgerald Wreck")

G ~ Ernest Borgnine...LOL! That's a good one! Wish I would have thought of it first.

Ernest Fitzgerald Borgnine...sounds good to me! Hail to MC_8chALE and his Navy!

Message: 30398 Posted: Thu Nov 20 18:42:45 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Thanks for....

<<what's your point?>>

I'm sorry it was over your head, Bonz.


Message: 30397 Posted: Thu Nov 20 18:02:46 2003 By: G_8ch
Subject: Re: Music Question (Another "Fitzgerald Wreck")

Darn Johhny..I just knew the answer was Ernest Borgnine. They don't call you the trivia king for nothing do they JY?

Message: 30396 Posted: Thu Nov 20 18:01:46 2003 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Thanks for....

what's your point?

Message: 30395 Posted: Thu Nov 20 17:59:55 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Thanks for....

<<Thanks for "ENLIGHTENING" us.>>

My pleasure Bonz! It's definitely all MY pleasure! But remember ------>

A(n enlightened) MIND (with no memory) IS A TERRIBLE THING!

Message: 30394 Posted: Thu Nov 20 15:30:00 2003 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Music Question (Another "Fitzgerald Wreck")

Thanks for "ENLIGHTENING" us.

Message: 30393 Posted: Thu Nov 20 06:23:17 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Music Question (Another "Fitzgerald Wreck")

Yes, JFK on the PT-109 on August 1943 leaving two men dead.

Message: 30392 Posted: Wed Nov 19 14:55:40 2003 By: Jenna
Subject: Carols By Candlelight

Steve...Thanks for posting the info in regards to Carols by Candlelight! Glad to hear they're clearing time out of their schedule for this great cause. I wasn't able to attend last year, anyone here go to it?

Hope tickets are still available on such short notice? They're the headlining act, aren't they? With so many acts it'll probably be a shorter than short set but so what....I didn't want to go to the company Christmas party anyway.

Message: 30391 Posted: Wed Nov 19 12:00:58 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Carols By Candlelight

For the second year in a row, America will be performing at the Carols By Candlelight holiday performance on December 4th and 5th in Escondido, California. Tickets are available now and range from $20 to $40. Also performing will be B.J. Thomas, Dan Seals, Kim Carnes, Stephen Bishop, Buck Howdy, and Eve Selis. Click on the link above for more information.

Message: 30390 Posted: Wed Nov 19 10:29:18 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Music Question/29 in the lyrics.

Here is another song containing 29~
"29 Ways" Marc Cohn.;0)
Sir Joe

Message: 30389 Posted: Wed Nov 19 06:48:00 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Music Question (Another "Fitzgerald Wreck")

Johnny, I'm going to guess that you're referring to John F(itzgerald) Kennedy. On August 2, 1943 he was serving as captain of a small PT (patrol) boat, PT 109, in the Pacific. In the middle of the night, a Japanese destroyer ran over the boat, slicing it into two parts. Two of the thirteen men on board were killed. Kennedy injured his back. The crew swam to a desert island, where they were rescued days later. Is that what you were thinking of?

Message: 30388 Posted: Wed Nov 19 05:40:55 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Fitgerald Wreck Question (Hint)

Here's a few more: Bruce Springsteen, Highway 29; Seals & Crofts, 29 Years from Texas; and Tom Waits, $29.00. Those are all titles.

Message: 30387 Posted: Tue Nov 18 21:15:44 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Fitgerald Wreck Question (Hint)

Hint: It occurred in the month of August.

Message: 30386 Posted: Tue Nov 18 21:08:31 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Music Question (Another "Fitzgerald Wreck")

Here's another "Fitzgerald wreck" triv question although not song-related but somewhat "gales of November" related:

1) How many men died in the wreck of John Fitzgerald?

2) What wreck am I referring to?

Message: 30385 Posted: Tue Nov 18 20:36:09 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Music Question (Anita)

Good twist on that question, Anita. There's a song called "29" on the Gin Blossoms' album, "New Miserable Experience." It is track 10 of this amazingly good CD. In that same genre, Better Than Ezra's "Deluxe" is an excellent album, too.

The final track on "New Miserable Experience" is called "Cheatin'." It is a classically country song although this is not a country album. I love this line from the song: " can't call it cheatin' 'cause she reminds me of you." Classic country line. Love that logic.

Good question.

Message: 30384 Posted: Tue Nov 18 20:29:10 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Music Question (Johnny)

Sorry, Johnny, I don't remember what was that enlightening. You should have asked me earlier when the conversation was fresh in my memory.

Message: 30383 Posted: Tue Nov 18 20:27:44 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Music Question/29 in the lyrics.

Very interesting question, Anita. Good answer, Vic!

There's...29 bottles of beer on the wall...29 bottles of beer!

Message: 30382 Posted: Tue Nov 18 20:27:35 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Music Question (Sheldon)

You are absolutely right!! Good goin'. "...the church bell chimed till it rang twenty-nine times for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald." Good memory.

Message: 30381 Posted: Tue Nov 18 20:18:48 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Music Question/29 in the lyrics.

Anita, the only one I could come up with, at this time, is "29 Palms" by Robert Plant.

Message: 30380 Posted: Tue Nov 18 19:31:59 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Music Question

Ah, Mo, of course it would be 29 men! And the ship's bell rang 29 times for each of the men. Let's see how many more songs you can come up with 29 in the lyrics.

Message: 30379 Posted: Tue Nov 18 19:26:50 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Music Question

Sheldon's guess of "29" is an interesting number whether or not it's correct!

Mo ~ Several Thursdays ago, you posted something here that had me wondering what you meant exactly. It was in regard to your being present during the previous day's live chat session. You said, " was fun...and enlightening."

Do you mind telling those of us who weren't there, what it was exactly that was "ENLIGHTENING"? So much so, that you would mention it in a post the next day.

Message: 30378 Posted: Tue Nov 18 18:59:42 2003 By: Sheldon
Subject: Re: Music Question

without listening to the song recently, my guess is 29?? could be wrong... great question Mo!


Message: 30377 Posted: Tue Nov 18 18:38:42 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Music Question

It's a blustery night here, again. That got me to thinking about "...the gales of November" from Gordon Lightfoot's incredible musical telling of The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald. Here's the question: How many men perished in the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald?

Message: 30376 Posted: Tue Nov 18 17:59:33 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: US Cities and States In Their Songs

Great question, Johnny!
Vic, very good that you remembered Oz from "Tin Man". I would like to qualify another mythical place! One mentioned in one of America's classics and one of my favorite songs, "Mukrat Love" from "Hat Trick", the place~ "Muskrat Land".
"Muskrat Susie, Muskrat Sam
Do the jitterbug out in muskrat land
And they shimmy
And Sammy's so skinny"

I think "Muskrat Land" is very near my house, just a few miles into the Louisiana swamps...:0)

Sir Joe

Message: 30375 Posted: Tue Nov 18 17:02:15 2003 By: Joe B
Subject: M.I.A.

Hello people,

I have been lurking but not posting lately. Busy, busy, busy.Please check out my new, improved website at

Hopefully I'll be coming to a radio station near you soon.

Joe B

Message: 30374 Posted: Tue Nov 18 13:54:27 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Re: We should be free

Hey, Mark, great idea! Do you think I should make a big sign to hold up at the Stabler Arena requesting the song? :>))))

Message: 30373 Posted: Tue Nov 18 10:59:57 2003 By: Mark
Subject: Re: We should be free

I finally got my House of Many Windows CD and had a chance to listen to the pre-America America song We Should Be Free. I think it is pretty good and it does sound similar to the Partridge Family. I'm not sure when it was recorded, so I don't know if they were really an influence or not or if Gerry had even heard of them since he was living in England at the time.

Who is going to be the first to request We Should Be Free at an America concert?

Message: 30372 Posted: Tue Nov 18 08:39:14 2003 By: Vic
Subject: US Cities and States In Their Songs

<<Are there others US states and cities?>>

Johnny, sorry, I forgot to qualify that most of my answers are not U.S. states or cities, obviously.

Message: 30371 Posted: Tue Nov 18 08:21:35 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: US Cities and States In Their Songs

Here are some more that I thought of. There's probably more but this is a good start. Fun question, Johnny!

Santa Barbara - Coastline (Alibi)
Beverly Hills - Inspector Mills (View From The Ground)
Mitchum Junction - Mitchum Junction (Highway)
Virginia - Old Virginia (Hearts)
Riverside (in California) - Riverside (America)
Alaska - Tall Treasures (Silent Letter)
Harmony (in Pennsylvania) - Willow Tree Lullaby (Hat Trick)

I know these aren't in the US, but they are places:
London and Mexico - Comin' Into Los Angeles (Heard)
Mexico (again) - Don't Let It Get You Down (Hideaway)
Mexico (yet again) - Hurricane (Harbor)
Rome - From A Moving Train (Human Nature)
Newton-Under-Roseberry Topping - Hat Trick (Hat Trick)
Masai Mara - Oloololo (Human Nature)
Australia - Ports-Of-Call (Hourglass)
North Africa - Ports-Of-Call (Hourglass)
China - Valentine (Alibi)
Watership Down - Watership Down (Hideaway)

Just for grins, here are some other places:
Oz - Tin Man (Holiday)
Heaven and Hell - Hell's On Fire (Encore: More Greatest Hits)
Hell (again) - High In The City (Silent Letter)
Paradise - Paradise (The Complete Greatest Hits)
Mercury - Lady With A Bluebird (Perspective)
Saturn - Saturn Nights (Homecoming)

There are other songs that include Moon and Star but since those aren't proper names I didn't include them.

For what it's worth, New Orleans, LA is in "And Forever" (Silent Letter) rather than "High In The City".

Message: 30370 Posted: Tue Nov 18 08:04:32 2003 By: Vic
Subject: US Cities and States In Their Songs

Johnny, here are a few more:

"Tin Man"/Oz (The mythical kingdom and/or nickname for Australia) : )

"Hat Trick"/Newton under Roseberry Topping

"Oloololo"/Nairobi, Kisumu (Probably a few more in this song)

"Ports-Of- Call"/Australia, North Africa

"Coastline"/Santa Barbara

"From A Moving Train"/Rome

"Old Virginia"/Virginia

Message: 30369 Posted: Tue Nov 18 07:30:02 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: US Cities and States In Their Songs

I thought of at least one more, Johnny. The city of Barstow (showcase of the southland-LOL) is mentioned in Overwhelming World Suite on the Human Nature CD. I'll think about it and see if I can come up with any more.

Message: 30368 Posted: Tue Nov 18 06:51:08 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: US Cities and States In Their Songs

I was wondering: Has AMERICA ever mentioned Pennsylvania or one of its cities in any of their songs that they have penned? I can think of only New Orleans ("High In The City); Berlin ("1960"); LA ("Glad To See You"); Albuquerque ("Wheels"); Memphis ("Daisy Jane"); Hollywood ("Hollywood"); Ventura ("VH"); and of course the State of California in a number of songs such as "California Revisited"/"Everyone I Meet Is From California".

Are there others US states and cities?

Message: 30367 Posted: Tue Nov 18 06:23:19 2003 By: Rich S
Subject: Re: Pennsylvanian Jokes

Thanks Mo for those jokes, they really took me back. I grew up outside of York, PA and miss it there still being here in South Florida now. Thank God it's still the same when I visit, by the way, has America ever played the York Fair?

Message: 30366 Posted: Tue Nov 18 05:41:16 2003 By: Sheldon
Subject: Re: Happy Belated Birthday, Sheldon!!

Thanks Cathy! Hey, are you going to the December 13th show in Bethlehem, PA? Sure hope so!!


Message: 30365 Posted: Mon Nov 17 21:20:09 2003 By: Robsl
Subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a band called Rio Grande

Hey Jason,
There is a site that features a bit of information about the band you are talking about, it is called I have found that this is a pretty good site, and it contains information about bands that it is tough to find information about. The site also tells about specific albums, and gives some reviews, and there are also a lot of album covers uploaded in file form to the webpages. The compnay sells books that include much of their data and CDroms also.
IT's a pretty good site, I think many of you fans would be interested in it.

Message: 30364 Posted: Mon Nov 17 19:24:27 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Happy Belated Birthday, Sheldon!!

Sheldon, happy belated birthday to you!!~~my fellow PA friend.~~Cathy

Message: 30363 Posted: Mon Nov 17 19:20:54 2003 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Re: Pennsylvanian Jokes

Hi Moser, thanks for the PA jokes. They made me laugh and I can certainly relate to them. I live near Wilkes-Barre and the name of that town is mispronounced all the time by people from outside of the area.~~Cathy

Message: 30362 Posted: Mon Nov 17 12:07:43 2003 By: Kade
Subject: Re: Pennsylvanian Jokes oopps!!

Sorry..I mean we don't hunt in Bala Cynwyd! As a teacher I couldn't let my post go without correcting my spelling error!

Message: 30361 Posted: Mon Nov 17 12:05:30 2003 By: Kade
Subject: Re: Pennsylvanian Jokes...Hit Next To Ignore

Hey Mo...This Bala Cynwyd girl loved the Pa. jokes(Except we do't hunt in Bala Cynwyd!). You know you're really from around here if you can spell our town names!!!

Message: 30360 Posted: Mon Nov 17 10:59:45 2003 By: Sheldon
Subject: Hey Nancy!

Hi Nancy - thanks for those belated b'day wishes, I appreciate it! Yes, the days are counting down until the December 13th show & I am really getting anxious & excited! I am really hoping the fellas play a few songs from "Holiday Harmony". Ofcourse I'll let ya know for sure!!

See ya-

Message: 30359 Posted: Mon Nov 17 10:43:57 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Pennsylvanian Jokes...Hit Next To Ignore

Hey Mo ~~ I LOVE IT and Boy am I a MISSING our Red Oak Posting!!!! Just ain't the same here without him.... No sireeeeeee

Hi there Sheldon ~~ Happy Belated Birthday to you, well the days are a counting down.... less than a month till you go to see them, I am hoping beyond hope you get to hear all 3 of the new songs from the Holiday Harmony cd.... WOW I get those spinetingling chills when I think of them singing them at this show, I have even dreamed they did, I wish I could thumb there ~~~ Hmmm I wonder how many people would pick me up if I were to make a sign saying I Need to Buy Some Milk ~~ I am heading to Bethlehem Pa ~~ Could ya give me a ride PLEASE ~~~ Yep I am willing to Take it to the Limit to get to this show.... :) :) :) ;)

Hey Mo I got a kick out of your top ten list.... I bet You made a great MC at your class reunion.... too much! :)

Hi there meza ~~ I have been racking my memory folders for some of those songs that my kids have mistaken the lyrics too, I know there are some... I will post them when they come to me, I know what you and Mo mean tho, how it makes you feel like you have stepped back in time and are hearing them sing or say it that way for the first time... Nice to hear from you.... I watched my Central Park DVD 3 times in a row late saturday night... I was smiling from ear to ear for sure.... WOW WOW WOW :)

Hi jimmy19029 ~~~ Hmmm pretty neat, you loving to check out all of the billboard lists, books and things.... I can remeber faithfully listening to Kasey Kasem's top 40 songs every saturday on my transister radio.... and I was tuned in for the top 100 songs of the Year on New Years Eve or Day, whichever it was.... WOW that seems sooo long ago.... Yep I agree, it is great to still have our AMERICA around after all these years.... I hope to have them around quite a few more too and then some.... I always tell everyone, I want my AMERICA albums playing nonstop at my viewing.... :)

Hmmm I didn't get to see the Music Awards show last night, but my sister and Jumping Jack, my morning dj friend... filled me in on some of the winners.... I was happy to hear that Fleetwood Mac was recognized and won for their new Say You Will CD , I love my audio dvd of it.... :) Hmmm Faith Hill & her Hubby Tim McGraw won for male and female country music entertainers of the year.... :) and I guess Kid Rock beat out a couple of good ones in some categories... and then Clay Akens... won it for top new artist... I am liking his new song Invisible more and more each time I hear it, some pretty neat lyrics in it..... I gotta give it a few more listens.... sooo I can let my fingers sing it...

Well gotta get for now, Thanks again Mo for making my day.... See ya all Later ~~ Nancy :)

~~~ Baby come Back ~~~ I gooooo Crazyyyyyy, when I look in your eyes, I still go crazy, no my heart just can't hide that old feeling inside, wayyyy deeeeeeep dooooown inside, you know when I loook in your eyees I gooooo Crazyyyyyyyyy ~~~ You're the Bigggest Part of meeeeeeeeee ~~~~~ :) ;) :)

Message: 30358 Posted: Mon Nov 17 10:31:11 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: songs ruined by our children...

This was not my dd, but one of her friend's who did what is my alltime fav "mis-heard lyric"

Singing to the Dixie Cups "Chapel of Love" , she began "going to the jack-o-lantern".... When asked about it she admitted that it didn't make ANY sense, but she couldn't figure out what was being said!

Message: 30357 Posted: Mon Nov 17 09:42:42 2003 By: Sheldon
Subject: Re: Pennsylvanian Jokes...Hit Next To Ignore

Hey Mo - hilarious and very true!!!!


Message: 30356 Posted: Mon Nov 17 08:47:47 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Pennsylvanian Jokes...Hit Next To Ignore

I got this in my email at work today. Since so many of us are now from or were from PA, I thought it might be fun to share it. Besides, I've been missing RedOak and his jokes. Hello, Red.

You Know You're From or In Pennsylvania If:

You've never referred to Philadelphia as anything but "Philly." And New Jersey has always been "Jersey."

You refer to Pennsylvania as "PA" (pronounced Peeay).How many other states do that?

You know what "Punxsutawney Phil" ( A Ground Hog ) is, and what it means if he sees his shadow.

The first day of buck and the first day of doe season are school holidays.

You can use the phrase "fire hall wedding reception" and not even bat an eye.

You can't go to a wedding without hearing the "Chicken Dance," at least 1 Polka and either an Italian song (sung in Italian,) or "Hava Nagila."

At least 5 people on your block have electric "candles" in all or most of their windows all year long.

You know what a "Hex sign" is.

You know what a "State Store" is, and your out of state friends find it incredulous that you can't purchase liquor at the mini-mart.

You own only three condiments "salt, pepper and Heinz ketchup".

Words like "hoagie", "crick", "chipped ham", "sticky buns", "shoo-fly pie", "pierogies" and "pocketbook" actually mean something to you.

You can eat cold pizza (even for breakfast) and know others who do the same. (Those from NY find this "barbaric".)

You not only have heard of Birch Beer, but you know it comes in several colors: Red, White, Brown, Gold.

You know several places to purchase or that serve Scrapple, Summer Sausage (Lebanon Bologna), and Hot Bacon Dressing.

You can eat a cold soft pretzel from a street vendor without fear and enjoy it.

You know the difference between a cheese steak & a pizza steak sandwich and a Primanti's, and know that you can't get a really good one outside PA.

You live for summer, when street and county fairs signal the beginning of funnel cake season.

Customers ask the waitress for "drippy eggs" for breakfast.

You know that Blue Ball, Intercourse, Climax, Bird-in-Hand, Beaver, Moon, Virginville, Paradise, Mars, and Slippery Rock are PA towns.

You know what a township, borough, and commonwealth is.

You can identify drivers from New York, New Jersey, Ohio,or other neighboring states by their unique and irritating driving habits.

A traffic jam is ten cars waiting to pass a horse-drawn carriage on the highway in Lancaster County.

You know several people who have hit deer more than once.

You carry jumper cables in your car and your female passengers know how to use them.

You still keep kitty litter, starting fluid, de-icer, or a snow brush in your trunk, even if you live in the south.

Driving is always better in winter because the potholes are filled with snow.

As a kid you built snow forts and leaf piles that were taller than you were.

Your graduating class consisted of mostly Polish, German, & Italian names.

"You guys" and "ynz" is a perfectly acceptable reference to a group of men & women.

You know how to respond to the question "Djeetjet?" (Did you eat yet?)

You learned to pronounce Bryn Mawr, Wilkes-Barre, Schuylkill, Bala Cynwyd, Conshohocken, and Monongahela.

You know what a "Mummer" is, and are disappointed if you can't catch at least highlights of the parade.

You actually understand these jokes and send them on to other Pennsylvanians plus friends who you want to know ---why you think the way you do.

Message: 30355 Posted: Mon Nov 17 03:19:07 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: songs ruined by our children...

Don't give up...donkey butt, now THAT is very funny. You've got to give them credit for trying at least. Yes, it has the tendency to ruin the song but it also makes me smile each time I hear the "original" version play on the radio or CD. One of the treasures of parenthood, I guess.

Message: 30354 Posted: Mon Nov 17 01:06:18 2003 By: Jason Smith
Subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a band called Rio Grande


I saw that info too, but it doesn't seem right. The album is definitely from 1971 and the band members are different. The lead singer is a chap called Ronny Weiss who if the internet is correct apparently featured in a 60s band MOUSE AND THE TRAPS which apparently sounded a bit like Bob Dylan. I've never heard of this lot either.

There's nothing like uncovering a forgotten band especially if their material is half decent.

I'll keep digging and let you know if I come up with anything else.


Message: 30353 Posted: Sun Nov 16 22:08:33 2003 By: meza
Subject: songs ruined by our children...

was reading moser's post about "mad dog" and got to thinking of all the songs ruined by our children. how bout we all post our fave's? mine took place while driving our daughter one afternoon. we had on peter gabriel's perfect "So" cd. we were listening to the track "Don't Give Up". being a big kate bush fan also, i was trying to educate the dd on the differnce between the "So" version and the live. well, my life changed as we reached the end of the track and she started singing "Donkey-butt" instead of "don't give up". maybe one day i'll get past this. it was like listening to her when she was 7 argue over how the song "i need you" goes with her they get better with age? kids, that is...

Message: 30352 Posted: Sun Nov 16 16:36:07 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Gulfstream Park Seating Chart

I'm going to the Gulfstream Park show in February, and I can't find a seating chart which shows the rows in reserved seating. Has anyone been there who might know the row setup? Thanks in advance.

Message: 30351 Posted: Sun Nov 16 14:52:07 2003 By: jimnak
Subject: House of Many Windows

That CD has some very groovy songs, has sort of a Bay Area 60's feel to it. GERRY's song is excellent. Can you imagine a compilation of pre AMERICA, AMERICA songs. Let's call it AMERICA - the wonder years.
It's getting closer to HOLIDAY HARMONY time ...

Message: 30350 Posted: Sun Nov 16 12:21:55 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Has anyone ever heard of a band called Rio Grande

Jas ~ I found some information on an LA-based band from the 90s also named "Rio Grande". According to the info, their music is a blend of country, rock, and a bit of Latin. The members are Tony Wagoner, Arny Riddio, Dave Lisenby and Randall O'Malley.

Are any of the above names listed as members on the LP you have? Up until this time, I had never heard of the band and the LP you mentioned.

Message: 30349 Posted: Sun Nov 16 08:47:57 2003 By: Jason Smith
Subject: Has anyone ever heard of a band called Rio Grande

I recently bought an old vinyl album by a group called Rio Grande. It was one of those judge the book by the cover scenerios and I went for it. I had an inkling from the info on the back cover that it was going to be a Country Rock lp and I was not wrong.

Anyway, it's a good record and sort of sounds like a cross between the OZARK MOUNTAIN DAREDEVILS and the PURE PRAIRIE LEAGUE.

I've been trying to find out more info on the band but my collection of rock/pop reference books have nothing and nor does the reliable ALL MUSIC GUIDE on the web.

I'd be interested to learn more about this band so if anyone knows anything please tell.

By the way the album I have was released in 1971 on RCA and recorded in Texas. This makes it quite an early album for County Rock and that's why I'm surprised I can't find any information. Maybe the band cut this one self titled LP and then folded.


Message: 30348 Posted: Sat Nov 15 14:31:09 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Off Topic...Once Again

Sorry to be off topic once again. (That makes twice this week for me, oops.) But, seriously, how much can you write about three guys and their guitars? CAN write a lot and I do but now and then I've got to think of something else...or lose my sanity.

So, I was cleaning up some of my computer files today when I came across this top 10 list. I wrote this about 2 years ago when I was the MC at my 20th year high school reunion. I thought you might get a giggle or two out of it:


10. You’ve voted Republican in at least the last three presidential elections.

9. You’ve died your hair to cover the gray or better yet decided the bottle of hair color probably wasn’t worth the money for the four hairs you have left on your head.

8. You’ve considered having a facelift or lyposuction but decided you’d better put the money in your retirement account instead.

7. You graduated from high school before this month’s Playboy centerfold was born.

6. You remember what you were doing when you found out John Lennon was dead.

5. You remember owning a leisure suit.

4. You’ve bought a bathing suit just because the tag read, “hip minimizer.”

3. You know that John Travolta started out as a sweathog.

2. You remember when you could buy a ski lift ticket for less than the price of a compact car.

And the number one reason you know that you are middle aged is:

1. You can’t help your kids with their homework any more because you don’t understand one damned word of it!

Message: 30347 Posted: Sat Nov 15 05:14:39 2003 By: David Stengele
Subject: Boston Corporate America

Actually, I feel Corporate America is a much better album than Walk On, and out of the 10 songs on the album, 6 of them have the Boston "feel". Only 4 are radically different.

Message: 30346 Posted: Fri Nov 14 18:57:03 2003 By: jimmy19029
Subject: Re: Bad Follow-ups

The 2nd Boston LP certainly was derivative of the first. I noticed the same parallels but that didn't stop me from liking it. Third Stage, which came 8 years after Don't Look Back, stayed in the same genre but did have some different melodies at least. And they've stuck to pretty much the same schedule since 1986 of a release every 8 years(with the exception of Greatest Hits which had a few new tracks in 1997). Walk On(1994)had a different vocalist and a harder sound. Corporate America(2002)was a drastic DEPARTURE that featured several different vocalists(including Brad Delp)and several different styles. Most the fans didn't like it and I thought that though it wasn't horrible it was pretty inconsistent despite the presence of a few catchier tracks.

Message: 30345 Posted: Fri Nov 14 17:43:16 2003 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Another question

Thanks for all the info on John Stewart. I couldn't quite think of the name, but now it rings a bell. From now on, if I need to know the answers to any music-related (or TV, for that matter) trivia questions, I won't waste my time on Google searches, I'll just come here and post my question!

Thanks again.


Message: 30344 Posted: Fri Nov 14 17:38:53 2003 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Bad Follow-ups

Steve Orchard wrote "Boston's 2nd album followed the debut by 2 years,being released in the Summer of 1978."

Now that you say that and I put it in perspective, that makes a lot of sense. I guess it just seemed like 5 years because I was so eagerly awaiting it! I do remember reading an article in Rolling Stone about them not even going in to the studio to start recording, after one of the band members had announced that it was "in the can" and just needed remixing. I'm pretty sure I'm not hallucinating THAT part!

I'm glad you liked the 2nd album, Steve, but I still think it was a major disappointment. It's been so long since I have listened to either album, but I remember at the time sitting down after a couple of listens and being able to draw parallels between all the songs on it with songs on their first album.


Message: 30343 Posted: Fri Nov 14 16:57:44 2003 By: jimmy19029
Subject: Re: Another question

John Stewart replaced original Kingston Trio member Dave Guard in 1961 and was with them till 1967. That same year he composed Daydream Believer for The Monkees. He then began a critically acclaimed solo career. 1979's Bombs Away Dream Babies also included two more follow up hits after Gold. The 2nd hit, Midnight Wind, also featured Stevie Nicks and there was a 3rd hit called Lost Her In The Sun which entered the Top 40 in early 1980.

Message: 30342 Posted: Fri Nov 14 14:29:42 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Dan Peek cassettes on sale for just $ 1.00 !


Thanks for the heads up on Dan's first two albums being available so inexpensively. I didn't know that they were on CD's... His own web site doesn't have them available on CD...I will definitely look into it. Happy Friday! Thanks again,


Message: 30341 Posted: Fri Nov 14 14:15:17 2003 By: Danae
Subject: Need your advice -important

Need your help.
It's about music again. Dad has already told you I play the piano, but I'm "a little bit lazy on this area". Well, I have to make an importanat choice: shall I continue it or not? If I stop playin' piano I can start playing the guitar (I'd really like it, especially if we talk about an electric guitar).

Message: 30340 Posted: Fri Nov 14 14:02:09 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Psychedelic Pstones/Dan Peek cassettes

Got a long road trip ahead of me this weekend, so it is in my "road trip kit" I'll let you kno what I think. I have listened to one other and it really brought back memories of the times. I am not familiar with ANY of the acts on the cd, but they sound like fun.

Message: 30339 Posted: Fri Nov 14 12:07:01 2003 By: Jenna
Subject: Psychedelic Pstones/Dan Peek cassettes

Hi all,

I still haven't received the cd yet (must've been sent by snail mail or pony express or something similar ha-ha!) Just curious of anyone's thoughts about the other artist's on it? Any other opinions besides sounding funky....or anything psychedelic? Anita, Beth, Robin or anyone else listen to anything on it besides "We Should be Free?" Beth, I think you said there's 27 artists on it!?

Mark, thanks for the heads-up on the site for the Dan Peek cassette's & cd's. I've been meaning to pick some up for a while so this is good incentive! I didn't think anyone made cassette's anymore?


Message: 30338 Posted: Fri Nov 14 10:54:16 2003 By: Beth
Subject: We should be free - Variation...

Robyn....The 'game' I played was with my youngest son.....I had Matt's cd in the player....asked Jordan if he recognized the artist...he listened a little bit and said, "It's Gerry"! I said "It's Gerry's son!! Pretty cool, huh?" Jordan grinned at me. "Yeah, cool!"


Message: 30337 Posted: Fri Nov 14 10:41:55 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Note To Yuri In Italy

Some of you noticed that I posted some 45 single covers of the "Last Two To Dance" 45 along with the pictures of the vinyl. The record and the cover were sent to me from Italy by Yuri Costantini. I tried sending Yuri a thank you message but the e-mail address I have for him doesn't work anymore. So, I hope it's OK if I send my thanks here. Yuri, if you read this message, send me a note so I can get your new e-mail address. And thanks a million for sending me such a collector's item. I'm sure I could put it on e-bay and get a lot for it (BUT I WON'T!). Thanks again!

Message: 30336 Posted: Fri Nov 14 09:55:20 2003 By: Mark
Subject: Sorry for the double post

But I thought this was such a good price that I had to say it twice!

Actually my finger must have twitched.

Message: 30335 Posted: Fri Nov 14 09:53:14 2003 By: Mark
Subject: Dan Peek cassettes on sale for just $ 1.00 !

I found a web site that has cassettes of Dan Peek's first two solo albums (All Things Are Possible and Doer of the Word) on sale for just $ 1.00 each! They also sell the CD's and the All Things Are Possible CD is only $ 9.95. The site is:

Enter Dan Peek in the search box in the top left and then check the Products button.

For any of you who haven't bought these solo works I thought this cheap price might give you an opportunity to check them out. All Things Are Possible was Dan's biggest commercial success, but I actually like Doer of the Word better (though I like them both). All Things Are Possible includes the song that Dan used to call his last song with America, Love Was Just Another Word, because it features background vocals by Gerry and Dewey. Doer of the Word also has Gerry on backing vocals.

Message: 30334 Posted: Fri Nov 14 09:53:14 2003 By: Mark
Subject: Dan Peek cassettes on sale for just $ 1.00 !

I found a web site that has cassettes of Dan Peek's first two solo albums (All Things Are Possible and Doer of the Word) on sale for just $ 1.00 each! They also sell the CD's and the All Things Are Possible CD is only $ 9.95. The site is:

Enter Dan Peek in the search box in the top left and then check the Products button.

For any of you who haven't bought these solo works I thought this cheap price might give you an opportunity to check them out. All Things Are Possible was Dan's biggest commercial success, but I actually like Doer of the Word better (though I like them both). All Things Are Possible includes the song that Dan used to call his last song with America, Love Was Just Another Word, because it features background vocals by Gerry and Dewey. Doer of the Word also has Gerry on backing vocals.

Message: 30333 Posted: Fri Nov 14 08:10:21 2003 By: speechwriter
Subject: Re: Another question

I see I'm late with that answer ... by the way, I think I read somewhere that he was in a version of The Kingston Trio.

Message: 30332 Posted: Fri Nov 14 08:08:03 2003 By: speechwriter
Subject: Re: Another question

Artist was John Stewart. song was "Gold." The LP was "Bombs Away Dream Babies."

Message: 30331 Posted: Fri Nov 14 07:36:39 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: We Should be free

With the discussion about whether Gerry sounded like Gerry I decided to play a game with my dd, Kate. I put in the cd and asked her to guess who it was, saying "It's a band you know" Well she listened and said "I don't know but it sounds kinda like Gerry" Boy was I surprised and proud of her. Must be raising her right!

Message: 30330 Posted: Fri Nov 14 07:10:20 2003 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Bad Follow-ups

I heard that Boston was tied up with a legal dispute over their contract and that is why there was such a long period between their 2nd and 3rd album.

Speaking of long periods between albums, Dan Peek had about 5 years from when he released his first solo album, All Things Are Possible and his 2nd, Doer of the Word. I'm not saying Doer was a bad follow-up, I actually like it better than All Things, but by taking so long to release it I think he lost the momentum he had from All Things Are Possible. While Doer of The Word was a hit on Christian stations, it wasn't as big a hit has All Things, plus All Things was a crossover hit on the pop and AC charts. I just think if he had followed All Things within a year or two, the second album would have been a bigger hit on Christian stations and had a better chance at crossing over to the pop or AC charts. But that's history.

If you want a bad follow-up, look at the Knack. Their first album was a HUGE hit and produced two hit singles, My Sharonna and the lessor hit Good Girls Don't. Their highly anticipated second album tanked, as did their careers.

Message: 30329 Posted: Fri Nov 14 07:03:56 2003 By: jimmy19029
Subject: Re: Unwanted Newsflash

No, I'm not a DJ, Nancy. Almost was once in college. I was an early collector of Billboard Magazine and when Joel Whitburn's books on chart placings began coming out I grabbed everyone I could. In the 70s and 80s to the early 90s there wasn't a hit or charter that I didn't know about or remember. Today, of course, it's a different ballgame on the charts and very few things really interest me anymore. Kind of a shame. Glad we have our older groups, like America, still out there to inspire us!

Message: 30328 Posted: Fri Nov 14 05:33:49 2003 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: Re: Bad Follow-ups

Same can NOT be said about HOMECOMING - Great Great Album

Message: 30327 Posted: Thu Nov 13 20:46:20 2003 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: Bad Follow-ups

Alan,Boston's 2nd album followed the debut by 2 years,being released in the Summer of 1978. You must be thinking of the 3rd album called "Third Stage" which was then released EIGHT years after the 2nd album. I thought "Don't look back" was great,but nothing tops that first album!

Message: 30326 Posted: Thu Nov 13 15:58:52 2003 By: Alan
Subject: Bad Follow-ups

A little while ago, someone was asking who out there bought a band or artist's first LP and really loved it, but didn't care for their 2nd album. I was still playing catch-up on reading posts, so I didn't get a chance to "play". I realize this was several topics ago, so I apologized, but here are a couple of bands that I felt that way about:

Boston: Absolutely LOVED their first self-titled album and couldn't wait for a follow-up. Well I waited and waited and listened to the excuses and blantant lies the band members and publicists were telling (at one point, it was claimed that their 2nd album was all recorded, but the band wasn't happy with the mix so they they were going to remix the whole thing. The truth came out several months later in an article in Rolling Stone - They hadn't even gone into the studio to record!). Finally the fateful day arrived (avbout 5 years after the first album was released, if I remember correctly) and "Don't Look Back" was finally released. I ran out and bought it and WHAT A DISAPPOINTMENT! To me, it sounded like a rehash of their first album, with the lyrics and melodies rearranged slightly.

Hootie & The Blowfish: Anbsolutely loved their debut album "Cracked Rear View". Wasn't very impressed with their follow-up "Fairweather Johnson" at all. Their 3rd, "Musical Chairs" was better than the second, but not nearly as good as the first, IMO.


Message: 30325 Posted: Thu Nov 13 15:56:07 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Another question

After I posted my reply I saw that Robyn beat me to the punch. At least we had the same answer! Good job Robyn.

Message: 30324 Posted: Thu Nov 13 15:54:55 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Another question

The song is called "Gold" by John Stewart. I have a 25 CD set called "Super Hits of the 70's - Have A Nice Day" which has that track on it.

Message: 30323 Posted: Thu Nov 13 15:52:20 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Another question

The song is "Gold" by John Stewart. It's from his "Bombs Away, Dream Babies" Album

Message: 30322 Posted: Thu Nov 13 15:47:16 2003 By: Alan
Subject: Another question

Someone mentioned that Fleetwood Mac's Lindsey Buckingham & Stevie Nicks were featured as backing vocalists for "Magnet and Steel". Right around the same time frame (78 or 79), Stevie Nicks also sang backup on a song that had the line "There's people out there turning music into gold". Can anyone remember the song title and the artist who sang it? Thanks.


P.S. Boy, am I getting old and senile! I used to remember all this stuff!

Message: 30321 Posted: Thu Nov 13 15:40:22 2003 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Joe Egan & Walter Egan

Thanks all for clearing up the Walter vs. Joe confusion. I remembered that Gerry Rafferty's partner in Stealer's Wheel was an Egan, I just wasn't sure which one (and I remembered the name Joe egan from somewhere). I'd never heard of Seamus Egan before. Does anyone know if Joe Egan has ever done anything solo?

Ah, yes! I remember both songs "Everyone's Agreed" and "Star." Great songs! I'd forgotten about them - I only seem to think of "Stuck In The Middle" when I hear their name mentioned. I had both "Stuck" and "Star" on 45 RPM when I was younger. I don't think I ever owned "Everyone's Agreed," but I recall our local radio station playing it quite a bit. I never owned one of their albums.

I also never owned any solo Rafferty, but really loved "Right Down The Line" and "Baker's Street."

Thanks again!


Message: 30320 Posted: Thu Nov 13 12:53:34 2003 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Joe Egan & Walter Egan

The Steelers Wheel song "Everybody's Agreed That Everything Will Turn Out Fine" missed the Billboard top 40 but not by much, it peeked at 49. It did make the Cashbox top 40, hitting number 33. Cashbox was based on single sales, while the Billboard chart was based on combined airplay and sales.

Just in case anybody cares.

Message: 30319 Posted: Thu Nov 13 12:18:40 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Unwanted Newsflash

Hang on to your Hair everyone~ :)

Yep Mo it is more than windy here, the ducks at the pond down the road from here are having trouble keeping their feathers on... I just went out to the bus to get Laura and it was rocking the bus, yes I said rocking! Hubby came home from work at lunch time cause the power was off where he works, and he said that a half of a modular home was blocking traffic on the main rte, he had to be detoured on the cow paths that intertwine our hillsides. ~~ This wind is having a strange effect on Maggie the Dog, I swear she thinks it is gonna take her tail, she keeps looking back and barking aimlessly at the invisible culprit.... she made a beeline for her cage down in the basement and is all coiled up on her pillow.
Too much Robyn ~~ Hailball fights... that would STING for sure! we have had sideways snow bursts while part of the sky was crystal blue and you could see a Snowbow trying to make it's impression on the dark indigo clouds...

Hi there Anita ~~ Yes the Central Park Live show is one great Pick me upper... I love it... I have to watch it more than once anytime I put mine on.... Sooo neat you finding this deal on ebay, and yes I will second you It is well worth getting for sure! Enjoy! :)

Thanks everyone for the fun at live chat last night ~~ I am bummed I got there soo late... :)

Hey there jimmy 19029 ~~ Are you by chance a Radio DJ, you sure know alot about Stealer's Wheel. Hmmm then maybe it is Seamus Egan and Walter Egan that are related to one another.. Yep Stuck in the Middle is one of those songs that you could find being sung out lots of places...

Hey there DanC ~~ did I miss you at live chat, did you stop in and say Hi? I found this song Everyone's Agreed ~~ easy to see why you like it the best, it is one rockin song for them... funny how it sounds soo much like Stuck in the Middle at the beginning :) I still can't recall their song Star, will have to keep looking for that one. :)

Hey there Red ~~ I hope you aren't having these wind gusts, if you are hang on to Nelleybelle's steering wheel. and stay focused on those SIGNS ;) :)

Gotta head back out to get Nathan now... see ya later, Nancy :)

~~~ Riding on the subway, everybody's still, they won't do any talking, they just sit there waiting, watching with their eyes, don't ask any questions, you won't get no answers, oooh nooo, ooh nooo ~~ Everybody seems to have a good time, nobody goes steppin out of line, everyone's agreed that everything will turn out fine :) :) :) ;)

Oooooh yeah, my dj played Daisy Jane at lunchtime today, without me even requesting... soo I called him up and said Thanks for the SMILE! What a song, WOW I loved it! :)

Message: 30318 Posted: Thu Nov 13 11:50:51 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Unwanted Newsflash

LOL -- here in the land of the crisis du jour, WE HAD a hailstorm and serious flooding in SouthCentral Los Angeles. The kids are having hailball fights....

Message: 30317 Posted: Thu Nov 13 11:18:16 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Unwanted Newsflash

I know most of you just LOVE to hear the current weather report from our various locales...NOT! But I wanted to post this anyway, so accept my apology. The snow fences are up. The leaves are down. It's snowing sideways. I think perhaps winter has hit the Eastern Great Lakes. Lovely.

Message: 30316 Posted: Thu Nov 13 11:16:28 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Live in Central Park VHS

I just noticed there is one of these for sale on eBay (you don't see them very often) in case anyone is interested:

Message: 30315 Posted: Thu Nov 13 11:09:38 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: We Should Be Free

While the vocals don't sound completly like the Gerry we know and love, you can hear flashes of the style in the chorus portion. Other than that, 'Partridge Family' is a pretty good assesment of the song. I have not listened to the rest of the cd, but hope to this weekend.

Message: 30314 Posted: Thu Nov 13 10:39:14 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Live in Central Park

I finally got my copy of Live in Central Park and I wanted to say that this is so worth getting! The format is lots of fun, particularly with the "reality inserts" between songs. Also the setlist is so unique. Definitely a great snapshot in time from 1979. Highly recommended!

Message: 30313 Posted: Thu Nov 13 06:37:07 2003 By: jimmy19029
Subject: Re: Joe Egan & Walter Egan

Yes, I do remember that one released as a single, Dan. I believe it got into the Hot 100 but never made Top 40. Stuck In The Middle made #6 and Star hit #29. Back then I only heard Stuck. Neither Star nor Everyone's.... ever got any airplay here in Philadelphia. Didn't hear all the other stuff till I picked up the albums several years later. I remember my classmates in 8th grade metalshop talking about songs they liked then suddenly breaking into a chorus of Stuck In The Middle With You.

Message: 30312 Posted: Wed Nov 12 21:18:25 2003 By: Robsl
Subject: Grunge and Stuff

Hey everyone,
I wanted to respond to Moser's comment about the grunge movement havin nothin on America. I like the comment, it was fun to read that bit from the college newspaper about America. It is true that Neil Young is sometimes called the Godfather of Grunge. I guess that would make the guys from America...ummmmmmmmmmm. The Slightly Younger Step Uncles of Grunge...or something :-)

Message: 30311 Posted: Wed Nov 12 19:33:22 2003 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Joe Egan & Walter Egan

Stealer's Wheel had a third minor hit in the US with a song called "Everyone's Agreed (That Everything Will Turn Out Fine)" which I liked better than "Stuck" or "Star"...DanC

Message: 30310 Posted: Wed Nov 12 17:41:37 2003 By: Karen L
Subject: Re: Christmas CD (Dave B.)

I enjoyed hearing the story about your daughter and am glad she's doing well! It's amazing what they can do these days for little ones born a little earlier than expected. I stopped at Kohl's after work today and bought the CD! I always buy the Christmas ornament Kohl's sells every year for the purpose of supporting the children's hospital, and I got one of those today too. I might pick up some more of both for Christmas gifts. Thanks for the heads-up on this.

Message: 30309 Posted: Wed Nov 12 17:20:05 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Anyone Know??? (For Alan C)

Alan ~ I'm glad to see that others were able to answer your question regarding Stealers Wheel and Egan. Other than Gerry Rafferty, I didn't know the other members of the band. I had never heard of the other Egan.

Message: 30308 Posted: Wed Nov 12 15:57:18 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: We Should Be Free

Mine came today too. Funky and fun to listen to all that stuff. I really have to give it a listen on a good player, not my "Dell from Hell" ( aka my computer)

Message: 30307 Posted: Wed Nov 12 15:49:37 2003 By: valynda
Subject: Theory

Hi Moser and all,
Moser, you could Never post too much! Your writing is so creative and humorous! You always crack me up!
I am enjoying reading your theory on the whole Joni Mitchell thing.
Hmmmmm, seeing Dewey and Gerry naked, you got me giggling now!! I'll have a smile on my face and I wont be able to say anything to anyone!! Ha-Ha!
I think you are a perfect applicant for the T-shirt sales job! But maybe I can fill in for you once in a while!
Bye for now, Valerie

Message: 30306 Posted: Wed Nov 12 15:36:33 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: We Should Be Free

Beth, another America fan (Anita) got her copy yesterday and she agrees with you that it doesn't sound like Gerry. However, Gerry has listened to it and he admits that it's him doing his best Partridge Family impersonation. I'm still waiting for my copy and then I'll let you know what I think (27 songs - wow!).

Message: 30305 Posted: Wed Nov 12 15:10:52 2003 By: Beth
Subject: We Should Be Free

The CD came today. There's 27 songs on this thing!! Fer cryin' out loud!! So I haven't listened to the whole thing yet. Gerry's song doesn't sound like Gerry to me. Am I crazie?? (Or just a little unwell....)

Has anyone else listened to this, have the CD, any opinions?


Message: 30304 Posted: Wed Nov 12 13:48:44 2003 By: KevinS.
Subject: Joni Mitchell.

Seeing Joni Mitchell naked would be enough to turn any guy gay.


Message: 30303 Posted: Wed Nov 12 13:41:35 2003 By: jimmy19029
Subject: Joe Egan & Walter Egan

I'm pretty sure that Walter & Joe are not directly related to one another. Joe was from Scotland where he and Gerry Rafferty formed Stealer's Wheel that had two hits in the U.S.(Stuck In The Middle With You in 1973 and Star in 1974) before breaking up in 1975 after which Gerry went solo and had hits with Baker Street, Home & Dry and Right Down The Line in 1978, plus Days Gone Down(Still Got That Light In Your Eyes) and Get It Right Next Time in 1979.
Walter Egan was from Southern California and is best known for his 1978 hit Magnet and Steal which features Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac very prominently in the background. The song was also featured in the 1997 film Boogie Nights.

Message: 30302 Posted: Wed Nov 12 13:07:18 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Re: Mo's Joni Mitchell theory -Danae's opinion

Well Danae, you have to put it in the context of the times. The late 60's and early 70's in Los Angeles were a time of a free-spirited movement. Hippies wanted to buck convention and create their own new world view. That included living in groups and going around au natural. To them it was no big deal.
Danae, I admire your sense of self, it is important to be who you are and to be true to your convictions.

Message: 30301 Posted: Wed Nov 12 12:29:40 2003 By: TommieGirl
Subject: Re: Dave/TommieGirl

Wow Dave... you went through a lot more with Kate than I had to endure with Will and Kenny. The boys spent some time in the NICU and were terribly slow to gain weight, but they have been by and large very lucky. I took them home 2 weeks after their birth and they have developed into healthy Kindergarteners who have more testosterone than any two male children need. :) Most of their problems have been meatal and emotional. Their milestones were quite late and they have always lagged in learning and social skills. (In light of what might have happened, I'll take that.)

Message: 30300 Posted: Wed Nov 12 12:25:41 2003 By: Danae
Subject: Re: Mo's Joni Mitchell theory -Danae's opinion

I read that passage from "L.A. Confidental" and I have my own opinion on this.
You can call me evil, but I believe -although I don't know- that Joni Mitchell is a "cheap" woman. I say this, because, appearing naked in front of (Gerry, Dewey, Dan, plus Geffen- that makes five) five men, well, your morality must be too "light" to do that.
I use the adjective "cheap", because I don't want to use heavier characterizations and make this post a swearing document.
I have always been very strict with girls. The only thing most of them care about now, is how to find a boyfriend. Well, I don't. Once they asked me "why don't you want to find a boyfriend" and I got angry, so I answered "because I'm not like you". I have my friend, Lena, and we have a wonderful time together.
If I was wrong about what I said regarding Mitchell, I apologize.

Message: 30299 Posted: Wed Nov 12 12:11:01 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Promise to Shut Up Soon

Sheldon--Thanks. AND, Happy Birthday, man. Welcome to the Fourth Decade.

Message: 30298 Posted: Wed Nov 12 11:56:59 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Mo's Joni Mitchell theory.

Here's a link to some information about David Geffen (as well as Joni Mitchell and Cher):

One quote on the web page is by by Philip Kerr from The Sunday Times Culture, March 12, 2000, pages 35-36. It says: "By the end of the 1960s, Geffen was already a millionaire and managing the careers of several successful, if obnoxious, musicians. He had his own record label by 1971, and spent the next 10 years wheeling and dealing before dipping his toe into the movie-business pond during the 1980s. Along the way, he lived with Joni Mitchell and Cher in an effort to be a heterosexual, which may be one reason why he didn't die of Aids like many of his closest gay friends such as Steve Rubell. By the time Geffen came out of his hand-fitted closet, gay men had learnt to be a little more careful."

Message: 30297 Posted: Wed Nov 12 11:09:11 2003 By: Mark
Subject: Lonely People - JOC

My oldest son and daughter are big Jars of Clay fans, so they each went out and got their latest CD which has a cover of America's Lonely People on it. I just got to listen to it, and I think they did a very good job with it. It is very nicely done. Hopefully it will become a CCM hit if not a mainstream hit.

Message: 30296 Posted: Wed Nov 12 10:19:02 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Mo's Joni Mitchell theory.

lol Kevin

I seem to recall that before he discovered his true nature, Geffen dated Cher ( I could be wrong here)

Anyway Mo thanks for explaining your reasoning. Pretty sound to me, even if it is unprovable unless Mr Beckley wants to tell us!

Message: 30295 Posted: Wed Nov 12 09:27:53 2003 By: Sheldon
Subject: Re: Promise to Shut Up Soon

Hi Mo - I have met you so I can verify that you are cute! And, since we are now the same age (I hit 40 on Oct. 28), I can verify that you are young too!!!!

See ya-

Message: 30294 Posted: Wed Nov 12 08:44:11 2003 By: KevinS.
Subject: Mo's Joni Mitchell theory.

The only hole in your theory is the David Geffin/Joni Mitchell trist. D

Message: 30293 Posted: Wed Nov 12 08:27:15 2003 By: speechwriter
Subject: Re: Jessica Lynch

After 20 years in the daily journalism game, I recognize that the favorite pigeon holes are hero, villain, victim, martyr and last, but certainly not least, ordinary joe (or joanne) thrust into extraordinary circumstances ... and automatically charming or reassuring by virtue of it. Sometimes, these characterizations even get close to the reality. Often they don't, which is why I opted out.
It's amazing how much of the forecasts offered by such eccentrics as Aldous Huxley (Brave New World, 1927) have come to pass. Here in 2003, helicopters beam crime, war and mayhem into our homes as they unfold, and virtually anyone who undergoes an ordeal is a potential book-talk-show-circuit celebrity. Don Henley was right. We're still "Workin' It."

Message: 30292 Posted: Wed Nov 12 08:03:11 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Walter Eagan \Stealer's Wheel ~ Coupla things ~ shut up soon ...

Happy Hump Day Everyone :) ~~~~ You put something better inside of me, you put something better insiiiide of meee, I could look ou tthe window, stare at the walll, really didn't matter, no I just didn't care at all, we be sitting by the water, counting every stone, nothing means nothing, when you're emptying all your all, but you put something better insidee of me, makes me sooo much stronger, I'm amazed at the change in meeeee ~~~ Sing it for me Joe Eagan & Stealer's Wheel :)

Thanks Alan for jogging my memmory, now the wheels of my mind are back on track regarding this Walter\Joe Eagan info.... :) Yes Anita it was Joe Eagan that sang with Stealer's Wheel, and their cousin Walter Eagan sang Magnet & Steele. Hmmm I always thought Walter Egan joined Gerry Rafferty on his song Baker's Street, but I am wrong... it was Gerry Rafferty that was a part of the Stealer's Wheel group and then went on to release his solo efforts... like Baker's Street & Right Down the Line. I found this about Gerry on the Rolling Stones site <<<< Scottish pop vocalist Gerry Rafferty began his musical career in a late 1960s group named the Humblebums, later working with the band Stealers Wheel whose single "Stuck in the Middle With You" became an international hit.By the end of the '70s Rafferty had begun a successful solo career, scoring a smash hit with the 1978 single "Baker Street" and its album City to City, which went on to sell more than five million copies worldwide. Rafferty remained popular in Britain, releasing a string of light pop albums during the 1980s.>>>>> Hmmm I am also recalling a Seamus Egan that possibly could have been related to Walter & Joe and for some reason I tie him in with one of the Serendipity soundtrack songs... I am still searching to confirm this tho... My friend one time told me about this Egan History, it is alittle blurry in my mind right now tho. :)

Hi there Mo ~~ I read all of your ramblins before heading off to my big soft pillow last night... Thanks a bunch for the Interesting Info you stirred up in support of you thinking that the song "She's Gonna Let You Down" is about Joni Mitchell, hmm pretty neat! ~~ Yes I will vouche for you, that you would make a Great T-Shirt & CD Girl for AMERICA, I would gladly be your assistent for this venture! :) ~~ I have kinda been on a silent quest of my own here... I called and talked with the noon dj about AMERICA and music in general... He said to me that AMERICA's music is kinda classes as 70's music and only known to people from that age group.... I said Nope I beg to differ with you there, I said that AMERICA's , Dan Fogelberg's, The Eagles, Timothy B & Poco's music & lyric styles have inspired our up and coming young musicians... I said that there are fans of their music that are in their 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's out there still listening and appreciating and loving their music. ~~ He paused and said Really... hmm you don't say.. Our time is always brief talking, because he has to get back on the air... but he always says he is sorry for our talk getting cut short. I told him that I don't mean or want to be a nuisance, that I just appreciate AMERICA's music and want to share the gift of gab about it, and I said I am hoping beyond hope for them to do a new CD soon. ~~ It's sooo great to hear the older songs playing on the radio here throughout my day, I can only imagine how Great that is gonna be when I hear my dj's say, and now here is a new song by the group AMERICA ~~ Yes Yes Yes ~~~ :)

Well I gotta get busy now, time for Live Chat tonight, I will be sure and drink some Strong Coffee, sooo that my big brown eyes don't fail me at staying awake. LOL!!! Hope to see you all there! Have a great day, Nancy :) ~~ Hey Mo ~~ thanks for the smile, that is a cute Mad Dog sounds like lyric from your daughter on the neat song Mad Dog! :)

~~~ I'm a Mad Dog at times like these, don't know where to turn, ain't the time to learn my lesson, I've had way too much tonight, ain't the time to learn my lesson, I've had way too much, had way too much, way too much tonight ~~ Alright ~~ Sing it for us again Gerry :)

Message: 30291 Posted: Wed Nov 12 07:56:06 2003 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Jessica Lynch

I'll give her credit for trying to point out who the real heroes are. All this was kind of forced on her by the media and public, and she seems to be doing her best to shed it. It's funny how the media and public tend to focus on a person and lionize them. It reminds me of what happened to the Air Force pilot, O'Grady I think was his name. He was shot down over Serbia, he hid in the woods for few days until the Marines came in and rescued him. He becomes a hero, writes a book and goes on the talk show circuit while the Marines who rescued him are ignored. I guess the public needs an individual to focus on.

Message: 30290 Posted: Wed Nov 12 07:43:31 2003 By: Beth
Subject: Jessica Lynch

Vic, I watched the interview w/Diane Sawyer last night, too. I felt exactly the same way about this young woman. So genuine!! I got the feeling she couldn't tell a lie if she had to. What a sweetheart, I really, really like her open honesty. She came off so fresh, unrehearsed, real. God Bless America!

Message: 30289 Posted: Wed Nov 12 07:20:01 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Jessica Lynch

Saw most of the Jessica Lynch interview with Diane Sawyer, last night, and part of the one with Katie Couric, this morning. What a marvelous young woman. The most impressive thing about her was her honesty, i.e., the unwillingness to take credit for things that she did not do. Obviously, in her mind, it would have dishonored what her fellow soldiers, that died that day, had done, to help save her life. There was an innocents and purity of heart, about her, that shined through the interviews, especially the Diane Sawyer piece. Even though she admitted to being so in fear of loosing her life, (and who wouldn't have been) I thought the "tough as nails" persona was just as obvious.

Message: 30288 Posted: Wed Nov 12 05:51:31 2003 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: Re: Dave/TommieGirl

Kate had a tummy tube (kept it for about two years)when she left UCONN med center and now a normal second grader weighing in at 45 lbs..How old are yours and more importantly how are they doing? Also I went out to Kohls website and called
them and they said that they were going to put it in their ads around Thanksgiving ....The Kohls were I bought it said it was a popular item...

Message: 30287 Posted: Tue Nov 11 22:28:32 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Anyone Know??? (Oops!)

You got it John, must have been the last couple of clues...the ones I gave.

Message: 30286 Posted: Tue Nov 11 21:52:22 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Anyone Know??? (Oops!)

I mean:

Her TWIRLING head (not "twisting") and her spewing green stuff!!!

Message: 30285 Posted: Tue Nov 11 20:37:03 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

Oh my gosh! It's now so obvious!


Message: 30284 Posted: Tue Nov 11 20:18:51 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Promise to Shut Up Soon

Sorry to post so much in one night. I haven't posted much in the last few days b/c I wanted to get the "research" done and posted regarding Joni Mitchell before I posted anything else. Well, now the floodgates have let loose, so look out.

Whilst I was looking through this website and Dan's in the last day or two for this whole Joni Mitchell thingy, I came across an interesting thing or two that I wanted to share.

From John Corbett's "America Revisited - Part 2":
"In concert, America continued to be a big attraction, especially with all their new hits crowding the charts. Outside of their music, their laid-back appearance drew sizable comment, such as this review from the University of Maryland in March 1973:

'It's the whole mystique. Tattered jeans, ratty tennis shoes, raggedy hair and an old T-shirt worn three days straight, all covering undisputed musical talent. And the whole business slinking on stage before thousands of panting fans.
That stereotypical image has become commonplace in folk-rock music nowadays, but nowhere is it more evident than in the latest of the young-genius supergroups, America. The whole idea that, "I'm just one of you: I'm not an Air Force brat overflowing with musical talent that made a super-selling album in England about America."'
The photo caption joked that "it seemed like America would rather be playing Frisbee someplace else." "

I was struck by this as being the origin of Grunge. Seattle Grunge had nothing new on these guys.

Next up...
More from Dan Peek's "The America Story: Episode 23 - LA Confidential":
"I'm sure at this point we all thought we had been slipped a mickey and were hallucinating all of this. But it was real. The fact that we'd been given the green light to skinny dip with Joni Mitchell however had no effect on our personal hang ups about nudity in public. The three of us immediately went inside and cut the legs off our levi's and went for a swim. The last thing I wanted to see was Naked Dewey or Naked Gerry and I know the feeling was mutual, even if it meant looking prudish."

My thought on this quote of, "...the last thing I wanted to see was Naked Dewey or Naked Gerry..." was--I couldn't disagree more!! Nope, don't think I'd pass that up. But then again, I'd have settled for the cut off Levis just as much. Love those Levis.

Okay, how do I end this post with some shred of decency...??? Not happenin', you say? Oh, yes, I almost forgot this. One more thought I've had recently. (No groaning, please.) I was recently looking through some older pictures on this site. I saw one of Pete with the caption, "Pete, the lonely T-shirt guy." Well, obviously, Pete has been promoted since those days to his present esteemed position as guitar tech and all around friendly guy. So, it seems to me that there is an opening in the "company." So, my question is, are you guys taking applications for the lonely T-shirt guy (girl?) position? I think that would be a grand summer job for me. I'd work cheap and travel light. I'd behave myself. And best of all I bet I could sell more T-shirts and CDs than anybody. Well, either that or I'd scare people off. It could really go either way.... But, hey, with the new CD coming out soon (hopefully), you'll need to have a "merch" table set up at every venue. I'd say, I'm your girl. I'm WAY overqualified. I have a Bachelor of Science in Pharmacy. (Hey, if I can count pills, I'm sure I can count t-shirts and money, right?) I'm personable. Just ask Nancy. I'm enthusiastic about the product. (Can you think of anyone else who's more enthusiastic?) I'm young. (Debatable there.) I'm cute. (Again, debatable.) Well, anyway, if you're accepting applications for the Summer Tour, please let me know.

Okay, promise to shut up now. Have a good Wednesday, People.

Message: 30283 Posted: Tue Nov 11 19:38:14 2003 By: Moser
Subject: From the Bar O' Soap Archives

As you may recall, or try to forget perhaps, my kids have a knack for singing their own version of America lyrics. Here's a new one. We were listening to Mad Dog the other day when Molly started cracking up. Apparently Riley was singing, "I'm Amanda at times like these" instead of "I'm a mad dog at times like these." Sorry to ruin another perfectly good song for all of you but I had to share this. It just cracked me up.

Message: 30282 Posted: Tue Nov 11 19:33:25 2003 By: Moser
Subject: The Other of the Coupla Things

Gen said, "... we were just BABY girls then, weren't we?... :-)" Yes, absolutely Gen. I or 10. Definitely not yet into America...more into David Cassidy, Donny Osmond, and Bobby Sherman.

Message: 30281 Posted: Tue Nov 11 19:21:24 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Coupla Things

Sorry to delay in answering the question from Gen and Johnny of "What makes you think so?" I have had a hunch regarding this song (She's Gonna Let You Down) being about Joni Mitchell for a while now and wasn't exactly sure what I had read to give me that impression. So, before I answered, I wanted to go back and try to find what I had read to support my "theory." So, I guess I would reference four things.
1) From the Highway booklet, page 25: "Events moved quickly during '72. With a certified-gold debut album behind them, America left Britain for L.A. and prepared to record their second LP, Homecoming. The band switched from Jeff Dexter to the Geffen Roberts Company for management. Bunnell: 'When we first got to L.A., we lived up at David Geffen's house for about a month, until he said, 'Hey, you guys, start looking for somewhere to live.' We'd sit by his pool and look out over L.A. and think that we'd made it. Joni Mitchell was living there as well. It was inspiring to watch her paint and have discussions with her.'"
Now, obviously, Joni Mitchell merely living in the house does not mean that she was romantically involved with Geffen. Gerry, Dewey, and Dan were living in the house and although Geffen may have loved them, I'm pretty sure it was not romantically. However, it is possible that Geffen and Mitchell were romantic. And, hey, since I'm a romantic at heart, it's not a stretch for me.
2) From Dan Peek's "The America Story, Episode 23--LA Confidential":
The view was made even more amazing by the fact that a young, beautiful blonde woman lay full length on one of the loungers, sunning herself in the warm dry air. She was completely naked. This Lorelei figure turned her face up to us and squinted, saying with total innocence, "Hi, I'm Joni Mitchell, you must be AMERICA. David said to say he'll be a little late. You must be awfully hot and tired. The water's great. You should go for a swim."
Again, not any proof of romantic involvement but an implied intimacy for sure.
3) The record that the guys were working on at that time was Homecoming. She's Gonna Let You Down did not appear on that record. It was on Hat Trick. So, one might assume that the "timing" of this theory is off. But the next line in the Highway booklet on page 25 is reason enough to guess that the song may have been written at this time but recorded later, "Songs were written, sorted through, and chosen or discarded for the next record."
4)Also from the Highway booklet, page 32 (the same passage that Steve quoted a day or two ago): "Beckley's piano-based ballad 'She's Gonna Let You Down,' for instance, featured a string arrangement by Jim Ed Norman, who had orchestrated the arrangements on numerous Eagles albums. 'That's a pretty good song,' Beckley says. 'Lyrically, it's self-explanatory. Basically, a friend of ours was getting screwed around in a relationship, and I was telling him in a song.'"
Again, not proof, but possibility. Geffen was likely a friend of "theirs" not only Gerry's. Also Gerry says the song is self-explanatory. The lyric that caught my attention and that I think refers to Geffen is, "Remember all the times you helped us through
Now here's our chance to do the same for you." Geffen clearly helped them to make the move to California from England among possibly many other helpful things. Obviously, he is not the only person who ever helped them out but he's a candidate nonetheless.

So, there you go. That's what makes me think so. It is all absolutely conjecture and NOT fact. Definitely circumstantial. Definitely scuttlebutt. But it's all fun to imagine, I think. I think Gerry is very protective of his inspirations for musical and lyrical content so, I'm sure we'll never know for sure. I thought I'd ask to see if any one had any thoughts or insight on the song. Just for fun.

Message: 30280 Posted: Tue Nov 11 18:42:27 2003 By: TommieGirl
Subject: Dave

Congratulations to you and your daughter, Dave! I'm the mother of preemie twins myself, and I know how scary it can be. Isn't it great to look at her and see how far she's come? :)

Stealer's Wheel... boy that brings it back... Gerry Rafferty did "Right Down The Line" in the 70's, am I right?

Message: 30279 Posted: Tue Nov 11 18:02:00 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

You almost got it, Alan! It was Joe Egan, not Walter.

Message: 30278 Posted: Tue Nov 11 17:53:08 2003 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

I'm not nearly as good at all this music (or TV) trivia that's been going around on the chat lately, so I have shied away from participating (mostly for fear of looking like an idiot, which I can do just fine without the help of trivia), but I do have a question for Johnny (or anyone else who might have the answer).

My question is this: Wasn't Walter Egan the other half of "Stealer's Wheel" along w/ Gerry Rafferty? I know GR was a member and I'm thinking the other guy's last name was Egan, but I'm not 100% sure if it was Walter (it might be Joe, or something like that).


Message: 30277 Posted: Tue Nov 11 14:31:04 2003 By: Jenna
Subject: Christmas CD

Dave, Continued good health to your daughter! She must be thriving...that must be an excellent cd if it has track's by Aretha, America, etc, etc....I'd buy anything that donates it's proceeds to benefit children or Hospitals.

Message: 30276 Posted: Tue Nov 11 09:52:43 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Christmas CD ~ overlooked ~ Anyone Know!!

Hi Hoooo Everyone :) Yes DanC I too want to extend my Thanks to all the Veteran's and a Moment of Remembrance for those that lost their lives serving our Country :)

Hi there David B ~~ Thanks for sharing this with us! Sooo nice to hear that your 8 year old princess has a great taste for some of the finer things in life. ~~ That is pretty neat Gerry & Dewey singing Frosty the Snowman being on this xmas CD that benefits the very place that your Daughter was take care of soo well. :) Is this CD available anywhere here on the Net to purchase? :)

Hi there Kim ~~ I love Duncan Sheik's songs Wishful Thinking and She Run's Away, I don't have any of his albums tho, I did wonder why I never heard much more from him. ~~ Hmmm the only one that comes to mind for me was the Rick Astley cassette I had bought,( I can't even recall the name of this, I hardly ever relistened to it) I really enjoyed his songs that were released on the radio, but the rest of them found on his cassette weren't any good. I liked Richard Marx's song Hazard and I think the rest on that album didn't go anywhere.... I will have to give this some more thought.... great question Kim :)

Hi there DanC ~~ WOW you named some wild music artist and titles there.... I do know of Walter Egan.... I love his song Magnet and Steele.... I also love one that is not soo well is called "You Put Something Better in Me" ~~ Wow it really has some nice lyrics in it... Darn I wish I was up at my home puter.... my fingers are anxious to sing this song.... I will have to post them in another post.... Enjoy your day off Mr Mailman :) :) :) You best be smiling! :) Listen to some good music!

Have a great day everyone, see ya, Nancy :)

~~~~ Well I'm a running down the road,tryin to losen my load, I got 7 women on my mind 4 that want to own me, 2 that wanna shoot me, 1 says she's a lover ~~~ Sing it for us ~~ Eagles :) ;) ;)

Message: 30275 Posted: Tue Nov 11 06:55:54 2003 By: Dan
Subject: overlooked

Have a great Holiday, all of you veterans out in cyberland...DanC.

Message: 30274 Posted: Mon Nov 10 20:57:34 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Christmas CD

Congrats to you and to her,Dave! As a premie who wasn't supposed to make it myself I can relate. Great that she loves the classics and you are giving her a wonderful musical education

Message: 30273 Posted: Mon Nov 10 18:43:20 2003 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: Christmas CD

My premy little 2 lb daughter whom the doctor's said to me one night call all of your family home to see her because it's very grim turned eight yesterday - and one of her gifts was a Christmas CD. She loved Holiday Harmony and all Christmas music like most kids. It was from Kohl's dept store and the reason her aunt bought it for her was the store donates $5 of the CD towards childrens hospital - a place where my daughter spent her first four months of her life. Anyway there are tracks from various artists. Song #1 is A NY Christmas from Robbie Thomas a good tune along with A R&B Joy to the world from Aretha - a couple of old classic like Rudolph from Ray Charles...Anyway yes track number 7 was Frosty the Snowman by America.

Message: 30272 Posted: Mon Nov 10 16:53:48 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

<<I really got into Walter Egan's first (?) album "Not Shy" but his second (?) album, "The Last Stroll" did nothing for me at all.>>

Actually, Dan, Walter Egan's "Not Shy" was his second album (1978) and "The Last Scroll" (1980) was his fourth. I have his first LP, "Fundamental Roll" (1977), and "Not Shy". I think you would enjoy "Fundamental Roll" because it's very much like "Not Shy". I first learned of Walter Egan when he appeared on "American Bandstand" and sang his hit song, "Magnet And Steel". I don't have any of his other LPs though.

Message: 30271 Posted: Mon Nov 10 15:57:06 2003 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

Moon Martin's "Escape From Domination", really good; his next, "Street Fever", really bad, all in my opinion of course... Ian Gomm's "Gomm With The Wind", excellent; his next, "What A Blow", did! ...DanC.

Message: 30270 Posted: Mon Nov 10 15:50:15 2003 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

I really got into Walter Egan's first (?) album "Not Shy" but his second (?) album, "The Last Stroll" did nothing for me at all. Cool question, I'm Going to try to think of some more...DanC.

Message: 30269 Posted: Mon Nov 10 08:22:19 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: I did an Oooops!

>>you should let your DD Bid on this ! <<

Uh.. no. Call me overprotective but Kate is only 16. I am sure there are quite a few single ladies among you who are dying for this opportunity. Mike REALLY is a fun guy. So c'mon and bid!

Message: 30268 Posted: Mon Nov 10 08:02:23 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

>>Has anyone else ever had that experience? You absolutely love one cd only to hate the next? <<

Yup. Peter Frampton's follow up to the smash "frampton Comes Alive" was called "I'm in You" and it was one of the biggest disappointments of the decade. Dull lifeless and devoid of the playful energy that mad e the live album the classic that it is.

Message: 30267 Posted: Mon Nov 10 07:38:43 2003 By: kimcabrina
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

Well, I don't know who the song was about, but if any of you are familiar with Duncan Sheik I have always thought a song on his self titled cd called "Out of Order" would be the perfect responsesong, lyrically, to "She's Going to Let You Down".

Duncan's first cd was great, but his second (I think it was his second) Humming, well, I couldn't wait for it to be over. I have tried to listen to it a few more times, but it still leaves me cold. Has anyone else ever had that experience? You absolutely love one cd only to hate the next?

Message: 30266 Posted: Mon Nov 10 06:49:37 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

Vic ~ I figured it probably was "Donkey Jaw" since you said it was a song by Dan with Dan's name in quotes which to me meant it's something different about one of his songs. As we all know, Dan wrote the song but Dewey sang it.

Could the answer be the 70s movie that starred George Burns and John Denver, "Oh God"? Was there a reference to Satan in the movie?

Message: 30265 Posted: Sun Nov 09 23:44:07 2003 By: corusgirl
Subject: A Horse With No Name

Hi Everyone

We have a Police TV show here called Heartbeat Which is set in Yorkshire. They play song clips during the show and these are usually from the 60's. Last night right at the beginning of the show they played A Horse With No Name. I couldn't believe what I was hearing I thought I must have left the Hi Fi on! Someone else over here must like America too

Message: 30264 Posted: Sun Nov 09 20:22:25 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Anyone Know???

DAN'S SONG: "Donkey Jaw"


Johnny, this much is correct.

Message: 30263 Posted: Sun Nov 09 18:26:03 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Interesting EBay Auction

I can't help but wonder what gets "shipped and handled" for the $10 shipping and handling fee? On second thought, never mind. :)

Message: 30262 Posted: Sun Nov 09 17:55:47 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: "Rock And Roll Heaven" and A SimpleTriv Question

Right Mark and Rob ~ It's Jackie Wilson and his song, "(Your Love Keeps Lifting Me) Higher and Higher" from his 1967 LP titled, "Higher And Higher".

Thanks for playing!

Message: 30261 Posted: Sun Nov 09 17:38:21 2003 By: cfhere
Subject: Re: "Rock And Roll Heaven" and A SimpleTriv Question

Hi Johnny,

The answer is Jackie Wilson. In 1967, he sang (Your Love Keeps Lifting Me) Higher and Higher.


Message: 30260 Posted: Sun Nov 09 14:48:58 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: I did an Oooops! (Nancy)

Hi Nancy!
cross fingers, cross fingers !
How's your arm?

Message: 30259 Posted: Sun Nov 09 14:28:41 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: I did an Oooops!

Me Again :)

Oooooops I put Robyn ~~ you should let your DD big! :) It should have said Robyn ~~ you should let your DD Bid on this ! ~~ Hey if she wins You could always go along as a Chaperone (sp) :) that would be fun wouldn't it? :)

Hi Gen ~~ I know you would bid if you could... I still am sooo happy you are gonna get to walk on the clouds and get to indulge in a nice chunk of AMERICA Chocolate in the spring... WOW WOW WOW ~~ Seeeee ya just gotta have Hope, and things will come to be, someway somehow...

Gotta get again ~~~ Nancy :)

~~~ Don't worry you will find the answer if you let it go, give yourself some time to falter, But don't forgo konwing that you're loved no matter what and everything will come round in time ~~~ Sing it Sarah McLachlan ~~ "Perfect Girl" :) Yep I am still alistening to these songs...

Message: 30258 Posted: Sun Nov 09 14:06:39 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Calif fire pics ~ Interesting Ebay Item & a new train song...

Hi There Everyone ~~ I hope You all took some time to check out the Lunar Eclipse last night, It was Magnificent display of Afterglow, and took 2 hrs., then Mr Moon oooh sooo bright was once again shining in the night... The Stars were shimmering sooo brilliantly too ~~ It was definitely a Fantabulous Night for Making Romance!

Thanks Steve L ~~ For sharing your pics with us. I can only begin to imagine the Overwhelming Emotions and Fears that this devastation leaves one with. ~~ On a positive note ~~ I am sooo Happy to say I finally heard from Mary H ~~~ She said they had to leave their home once again and finally got to come back home a couple of days ago, their power was off for a week and a half, her daughter hasn't had any school, and traveling up and down the San Bernardino mountains has been hard. ~~ I hope things will somehow return to a safe normalcy...

Cheers Goanna ~~ I hope that you are spared Wildfires there in OZ this year! ~~~ Hmmmm my wondering mind is wondering what the Eclipse looked like there in your part of the world, By chance did you or Jimmmmmmmmmbob happen to take any of this in, I would love to hear about it! :)

Hey there RobL ~~~ Yep I too knew this was Jackie Wilson and that oooh soo nice song "Your Love Keeps Lifting Me" (Higher & Higher)~~~ Hmmm that would be neat to hear some songs or clips from the Pre AMERICA days... Hey there Jason, do you know if there is any way to find any of these songs?

Hey Mo ~~ Too much ~~ what an interesting EBay Item up for Bid ~~~ WOW WOW WOW ~~ I was tempted to hit the Bid Paddle! :) ~~ I am glad that Matt & His Friends love living life spontaneous and carefree... I will be curious to see who wins this bid! ~~ Today is the 1 yr anniversary of my cousin's sudden death, he would be 31 if he were here with us now. He too was full of Spirit and lived each day taking in whatever he could. :) ~~~ Hmmmm just curious Mo & Gen, did you guys placea Bid yet? :) Robyn ~~ you should let your DD big! :)

Hi there Valerie & Danae ~~ Thanks for asking how my arm is healing.... My arm is coming along good, and even the tingling and numbness that I had in my fingers have left some... since I don't go to physical therapy anymore... My MRI did confirm what my Orthapedic Dr had suspected, there are 2 ruptures on my C5 -C6 disc and 1 rupture on my C6-C7 disc... sooo he said next up is to go to for some Spinal\Epidural Injections.... he said if they are effective on these, I will know right away... I have thought it over and have made an app. to go see a Neurosurgeon first, cause I am not soo crazy about getting these injections... if I am still gonna end up having to have surgery to repair these... ~~ Danae ~~ on Aug 25th I was coming from my board meeting and was carrying my laptop along with other things and they started to slip and I felt like they were dropping soooo I Jerked and Tucked my arm out of instant reaction to stop them from falling, and this caused a fracture in my lower arm and then continued on up to the back of my neck and caused these 3 ruptures which has resulted in 2 different types of nerve damage... If I don't get this taken care of the nerve damage could go down my left side and worsen.... You all can betcha If I would have known that this was gonna be the outcome of this reaction... I would Have Dropped the Stupid Laptop in an Instance, noooooo 2nd thoughts whatsoever.... Sooo learn a lesson from me on this... Okay :) ~~ I just wanna say I am not in any kind of bad pain.... I do get burning, stinging twinges that come down from my neck and if I do overdo it with my arm I know it.... ~~~ Valerie ~~ Yep Bobby Sherman was a real Honey... I can remember my friend having his album and she also had a lifesize poster of him.... I was sooo envious of her....

~~~ I was at WalMart last night shopping and of course headed into the music section and I didn't find any Xmas CD's out yet... I did find a copy of the History cassette and CD and also The Complete Greatest Hits, and there was one there that had a pic of Gerry Dewey & Dan standing at microphones and playing their guitars... it had AMERICA Live on the top of it.... soooo I took a look in the Album section here on Steve's site and it is the EMI one that was released in the year 2000... I was smiling seeing some different ones there available for people to discover... :) :) :)

Thanks Sergio, Vic & Johnny & Goanna for the trivia, some pretty neat info...

Hi Hoooooo Redddddd ~~~ Did you take alook out at the Lunar Eclipse last night? I loved seeing the nice Afterglow colors that this process included.... I just wanted to tell you I found ABBA's complete CD set there at wally world as well, the dj on my fave radio station gives their songs alot of airplay... he too is a big fan of theirs. I saw Bob Seiger's cd too... boy there sure are some great stocking stuffers out there this year... I hope you post soon, I sure am missing you! :)

Hi Steve O ~~ WOW ~~ I really enjoyed your article this week... it was packed full of info for sure... Mr Mailman delivered my Sarah McLachlan cd yesterday... I have taken a couple listens to this CD and it is very captivating to say the Least... I also watched Sarah on David Letterman's last Mon, and on Regis & Kelly on Wed, and on the Today show on Fri... She sure was Shining, sooo Brilliantly Radiant... She chose the name Afterglow for this collection of songs and I must say she is Glowing from every angle... The songs on this cd are kinda dark in one way, but each of them have a Powerful Message that gets ya where it counts... I love her voice, the music on these songs accent it soo nicely... they kinda flow into each other too... There is one that I keep hitting the replay button on, as a matter of fact it just came on here now... and it has a very familiar word in it.... that is found in our AMERICA songs... It is called "Train Wreck" ~~~ WOW this song has a way with me, it is soooo neat... it even has that nice music sound in the background that is in Sleepertrain.... I would say that whatever answers Sarah was searching for when writing these songs, she has found full fold & then some... I would give this new cd of hers a 10 .... Nice stuff!

Okay it is getting dark here now, gotta head up and fix some supper... no school here tomorrow or the next day... I gotta go in for teacher conferences tomorrow and then to work... On teusday we are gonna head to the movie theater to see "Brother Bear" ~~ that oughta be FUN! :) Take care everyone, enjoy the rest of your day, Nancy :) ~~~ I just gotta let my fingers sing some of these great lyrics... in this song that has me Mesmerized today! Thanks for letting me ramble on... :)

~~~ Would your eyes like midnight fireflies, light up the trenches where my heart lies, until I can seeee again, find my way back again ~~~~ cause I'm a Train Wreck waiting to happen, waiting for someone to come pick me up off the tracks, a wild fire born of frustration, born of the one love that gets meeeee sooooo high ~~ I've nooooo fear at all ~~~ Tooooo fall soooo deeeeep into youuuuu, lose myself completely, in your sweeeet embraaaaace, tillll alll the pain's erassssed.... Ooooooh Sing it again and again Sarah McLachlan :) ;) :)

Message: 30257 Posted: Sun Nov 09 13:58:33 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Interesting EBay Auction

I'm afraid distance disqualifies me for the cool meeting ... but don't say I won't bid for the fun of it if possible (?). Thing is I'm currently trying to save money for (crossing fingers here)) a March concert in Paris which implies a flight (return ticket of course) and an EXPENSIVE night stay in one of those extremely unaffordable Paris hotels... see what I mean? ;-)

Message: 30256 Posted: Sun Nov 09 12:46:04 2003 By: Robsl
Subject: Triv. Question

The Jackie reference is to Jackie Wilson. The song referred to is "Your Love Keeps Lifting Me (Higher and Higher)" which was a big hit for Jackie Wilson in the mid1960s.
Rob L

Message: 30255 Posted: Sun Nov 09 11:59:26 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Interesting EBay Auction

>>Robyn, planning to bid? :-D<<

I am disqualified on two counts! c'mon and bid. Matt assures me it is a serious thing!

Message: 30254 Posted: Sun Nov 09 11:34:57 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: A SimpleTriv Question (Hint)

Not that a hint is really needed, but here's one anyway: The last name contains six letters.

Message: 30253 Posted: Sun Nov 09 11:30:49 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: "Rock And Roll Heaven" and A SimpleTriv Question

As mentioned here just the other day by Vic, The Righteous Brothers' "Rock And Roll Heaven" was released in 1974.

I found my "Best of The Righteous Brothers Vol. 2" cassette. The second version was titled, "Rock And Roll Heaven '92". Here's the artists that are mentioned in the latter version:

Elvis, he loved us tender.

John [Lennon] cried, "Give peace a chance".

Roy [Orbison] introduced us to his pretty woman.

Jackie took us higher.

Ricky [Nelson] walked us down to Lonesome Town.

Dennis [Wilson] gave us good vibrations.

Marvin [Gaye] sang "Brother, Brother".

Sam [Cooke] said, "What a wonderful world this would be".

Mama [Cass Eliot] sang, "Monday, Monday".

Stevie Ray Vaughn was on his way.

TRIV QUESTION: Who is the "Jackie" mentioned above and what is "higher" in reference to?

Message: 30252 Posted: Sun Nov 09 10:15:27 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: One Of Vic's Trivia Questions

<<There's an early 70's movie in which the main character is never seen, and whose "voice", technically, is never heard. The character, in the movie, is the "same" character from a "Dan" song. What's the name of the movie, Dan's song, and the character that is common to both?>>

Vic ~ That's a good trivia question because it's a toughy. I have two guesses, but I know they're not correct because of the time period. However, I'll post my guesses just the same. Because you stated that it's a "Dan" song (noticing the quotations around Dan's name), here are my two guesses involving a "Dan" song that mentions a character:

MOVIE NAME: "Francis The Talking Mule" or "The Devil And Miss Jones"

DAN'S SONG: "Donkey Jaw"


I know I'm not right on either since it's suppose to be a movie from the 70's. "Francis The Talking Mule" was from either the 50s or 60s plus Francis IS seen which is unlike your triv question. "The Devil And Miss Jones" was from 1941.

Message: 30251 Posted: Sun Nov 09 10:12:21 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

Thanks for answering...

<<Regarding the eBay auction mentioned here, I wonder if the auction will be honored if a guy should happen to win? No, I'm not interested, thank you, but I just was wondering. :0) >>

Oh sure this could happen and Mike probably knows it ... if you want to play the game, you have to run the risks, I guess.;-)

Message: 30250 Posted: Sun Nov 09 09:52:58 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

Well, Gen, I really have no idea either way. I suppose it's quite possible especially being that the former trio met Joni Mitchell very early on in their career.

Regarding the eBay auction mentioned here, I wonder if the auction will be honored if a guy should happen to win? No, I'm not interested, thank you, but I just was wondering. :0)

Message: 30249 Posted: Sun Nov 09 09:37:38 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

Do YOU think it could be so ? Considering the period the song was released, I mean...

Message: 30248 Posted: Sun Nov 09 09:19:07 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

Mo, what makes you think so?

Message: 30247 Posted: Sun Nov 09 08:29:35 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

This is what the Highway liner notes say about it:

The rest of Hat Trick featured originals by the band, dressed up with tasteful arrangements where appropriate. Beckley's piano-based ballad "She's Gonna Let You Down," for instance, featured a string arrangement by Jim Ed Norman, who had orchestrated the arrangements on numerous Eagles albums. "That's a pretty good song," Beckley says. "Lyrically, it's self-explanatory. Basically, a friend of ours was getting screwed around in a relationship, and I was telling him in a song.

It doesn't say, however, who the friend was.

Message: 30246 Posted: Sun Nov 09 08:10:58 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

Thanx... will answer you soon.
Not documented enough on these early 70's to figure out any answer I admit... we were just BABY girls then, weren't we?... :-)

I'm afraid we wil need some real 'specialist' to help probably.
Anyway, have a great sunday Mo and everyone !

Message: 30245 Posted: Sun Nov 09 07:46:07 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

Gen--answered you in an email. Hope you are having a great weekend.

Message: 30244 Posted: Sun Nov 09 07:15:58 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Anyone Know???

What makes you think so?

Message: 30243 Posted: Sun Nov 09 06:59:42 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Anyone Know???

Does anyone know if "She's Gonna Let You Down" is about Joni Mitchell?

Message: 30242 Posted: Sun Nov 09 06:48:29 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Interesting EBay Auction

Hahaha.... the guy calls himself 'evil chippy', so... ;-)
Anyway, don't we all wish we lived in SoCal DESPITE the recent wildfires, hmmm?
Robyn, planning to bid? :-D

Message: 30241 Posted: Sat Nov 08 23:59:32 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Interesting EBay Auction

Somewhat off topic, though "related":

Message: 30240 Posted: Sat Nov 08 13:20:47 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: We should be free

Just finished listening to Gerry's "We Should Be Free" for the first time. Wow! Gerry's singing voice sounds very mature for the age he was back then. I think the song is very cool! That was a blast!!!

By the way, being that the Cowsills were discussed here earlier, isn't one of their songs currently being used in a television commercial? I can't recall for which product and which of their songs. Maybe somebody else knows. I only recall the color pink being used a lot in the commercial.

Message: 30239 Posted: Sat Nov 08 09:28:31 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Misc.

Sir Joe ~ I enjoyed reading your Dixie Cups experience. Glad to hear you had a great time!

Yes, Vic and Serge, Keith Thibodeaux was once the drummer for the four member Christian band, David and The Giants, named after the Bible figures David and the giant Goliath. David Huff is/was the very talented lead singer. I believe they're no longer together. :0(

Vic ~ I'm not sure which trivia questions remain unanswered if any.

Have yet to hear Gerry's unearthed song from the pre-AMERICA days...during the BRITISH days, I guess one could say.

Message: 30238 Posted: Sat Nov 08 06:35:39 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Misc.

Johnny, there are still a couple of unanswered America/movie trivia questions.

<<.Here's a music and 1960s TV show trivia question: What Christian band was Little Ricky (from the "I Love Lucy" show) a member of as an adult but only for a short time? He was a drummer for the band.

That would be Keith Thibodeaux and the band was "David and Goliath".

Never heard the other version of "Rock And Roll Heaven"

Welcome back.

Message: 30237 Posted: Sat Nov 08 06:00:08 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: National Anthem, trivia, (off topic) The Dixie Cups in N'Awlins


Sorry you did not get to see them, but thank you for the info anyway. Hopefully, someday someone will surface with a video or recording of it to share with the chat folder...


<<Very good, Sir Joe, "Sarah" certainly qualifies as a correct answer. It's not what I was thinking of, though. There is another Jody Foster movie, from the 90's, with another character with the same name as a character from another "Gerry" song. What's the name of Jody's movie, Gerry's song, and the character name, common to both?>>
Yes, Jodie also played "Clarice" in the "Silence of the Lambs". Like Gerry's song "Clarice" from the self titled America album. Now, wouldn't it be amazing if Jodie played a Daisy?

<<I didn't limit it to a woman's name, Serge, or even a human's, as far as that goes. : )>>

Vic, this is too far out for me, I'll pass on it.;0)


Thanks, for the update on Jars of Clay. I still have not heard their version of "Lonely People". I can't imagine anyone improving on our musical heroes' version. However, it's nice to see a song of theirs getting covered by new acts.

<<Here's a music and 1960s TV show trivia question: What Christian band was Little Ricky (from the "I Love Lucy" show) a member of as an adult but only for a short time? He was a drummer for the band.>>

I think the answer is- Keith Thibodeaux,"Little Ricky", was briefly the drummer of "DAVID AND THE GIANTS" (Thank you, Google!)

I vaguely remember the updated remake of "Rock and Roll Heaven", however I don't remember when it came out, early 80's perhaps?

Last night, I was treated to a "Rock and Roll Heaven" right here on earth in good ol' N'Awlins, a living legendary girl group from my "adopted" hometown of New Orleans, the lovely harmonizing "Dixie Cups" performed at Bally's Riverboat Casino. (I think America played this venue a few years ago, and I was unable to catch them) Great venue though, small, friendly and has an "up close" kind of quality to it, I think it's the low ceilings and smallness of the space. Well, the marvelous Dixie Cups sassed it up and sang it up in a very New Orleans way. Barbara Hawkins, the lead singer of the trio,(the other two members can also sing very well), has a lovely, supple soprano voice and belted out "Proud Mary", "Respect", "Sea Cruise", "Why Do Fools Fall In Love", "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow", "I know", a series of local New Orleans rythm n'blues songs, and of course their "Red Bird" Leiber and Stoller produced hits, "People Say", "Iko, Iko" and their classic, the song that displaced the Beatles' "Love Me Do" from the #1 spot in 1964, one of the great girl group anthems~ "The Chapel of Love" written by the Hall of Fame writing team, Jeff Barry and Ellie Greenwich of Brill Building fame. Their back-up band, "Cayenne Pepper", which included horns, keyboards, guitars and drums, was excellent as well. I felt very lucky to be there and to witness this legendary girl group sing with great style and in total command of their voices (these gals are nearing 60 if not over). One of New Orleans' many gifts to the music world. After an animated 90 minute show, they threw cups to the audience (as the revelers throw cups from floats during the Mardi Gras parades)and I was lucky to catch one. A nice memento from the concert. One that after the show became even more special when they each signed the it. All in all, a very nice evening that Lourdes and I will always remember.:0)

Have a nice weekend all,

Sir Joe

Message: 30236 Posted: Fri Nov 07 22:04:36 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Misc.

I'm sorry I missed out on all the fun trivia! I liked watching those 60s TV shows (and still do). They bring back a lot of fond childhood memories. I wasn't a "Lost In Space" fan, but I enjoyed all of the other shows mentioned here.

My co-worker friend who attended the local Jars of Clay concert a week ago today told me the band performed "Lonely People" which received hearty applause by the audience!

The earlier mention of Dewey and Bill Mumy singing the "S S Banner" at an Anaheim game reminds me of my former co-worker's brother who was (and as far as I know may still be) a pitcher for the Angels. About four years ago, she told me he held a major league record. He was the "honorable" record holder for striking the most batters that particular year. That's not striking OUT the most batters. That's STRIKING the most batters with the baseball. His name is Steve Sparks. Maybe his name rings a bell with some Angels fans.

Here's a music and 1960s TV show trivia question: What Christian band was Little Ricky (from the "I Love Lucy" show) a member of as an adult but only for a short time? He was a drummer for the band.

Also, did you all know that the Righteous Brothers had a later version of "Rock And Roll Heaven" that included the names of other musicians that passed on after their original version of the song? I don't remember it ever being a hit though which it probably wasn't. I'll need to dig out my cassette and give it a listen to remember the names of the late musicians who are mentioned in the song. I'll report back with a list.

Message: 30235 Posted: Fri Nov 07 19:06:32 2003 By: Goanna
Subject: Re: California Wildfires - for Steve L

Hi Steve,

It's sad to see such devistation, partuclarly when it's close to the heart (family)... I wish you and your extended family safe times in the future. We are now in Nov 2003' and for us here in Australia we will soon come into our bush fire season and our temp# will raech into the 40*c (105*f). For us Aussies who post on Steve's website, indeed it's a timely remider on what happens (xmas 2002), and the way in which disasters like the CA fires have an effect on bringing home the reality of life on this earth, some pills are hard to swallow...

Message: 30234 Posted: Fri Nov 07 18:27:23 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: More trivia answers

<<SARAH, one of my favorite Gerry songs. The movie was "The Accused" from 1988.>>

Very good, Sir Joe, "Sarah" certainly qualifies as a correct answer. It's not what I was thinking of, though. There is another Jody Foster movie, from the 90's, with another character with the same name as a character from another "Gerry" song. What's the name of Jody's movie, Gerry's song, and the character name, common to both?

<<I can't remember any woman's name in Dan's song other than "Virginia" from "Old Virginia", but I can't remember any movie in the 70's with the name Virginia, and that's what has me scratching my head.>>

I didn't limit it to a woman's name, Serge, or even a human's, as far as that goes. : )

Message: 30233 Posted: Fri Nov 07 16:43:00 2003 By: Robsl
Subject: Loving "We Should Be Free"

Hey everyone,
I hadn't posted in a while, but since I happened to have the chance to be online I took a few minutes to catch on this chat folder. I wanted to thank Steve L. and those were involved in compiling and posting this clip of this America (although I guess technically the band didn't really have that name or exist really yet) song from the late 60's. This is definitely a cool "psychedlic pstone" gem from the 1969 era. I liked hearing the one minute clip. It would be really cool if someday there would be a release of material by The Daze or Swallow the Buffalo (spelling?) material by the guys. I would think that some of this material is very hard to find and if it is recorded at all it is probably on some dusty master tape in some London studio. But it would be cool to hear the material if it were somehow released. If my rabid collector's appetite were satisfied, bands would be releasing rarities till I was blue in the face. I love them.
I'm really excited just picturing the recording sessions that may or may not actually be going on right now with America being produced by Andrew Gold. I'm sure the creative energies will be flowing between these guys if/when they get into the studio.
Take care everybody,
Rob L.

Message: 30232 Posted: Fri Nov 07 16:07:31 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: More trivia answers


Very good, Mr. Vic, Google assisted or not, you got them right. I was
thinking Billy Mumy's biggest film to be "Dear Brigitte". However, you may be right. I don't remember him in "Papillon", but I do remember him with James Stewart and Brigitte Bardot...;0)

I learned something on Jonathan Harris too, I remembered him on "The Bill Dana" show but not on "The Third Man". Although I really like "TheThird Man" song theme.


<<The actor, Michael Rennie played a character in an episode, or maybe two,of the late 60's, TV series, "Batman". His character had the same name as one of the characters from a "Dewey" song. What's the title of Dewey's song,and the character name, common to both?>>

<<The actress, Jody Foster play a character in a movie. Her character had the same name as a character from a "Gerry" song. What's the name of Jody's movie, Gerry's song, and the character name, common to both>>
SARAH, one of my favorite Gerry songs. The movie was "The Accused" from 1988.

<<There is an early 70's movie in which the main character is never seen, and who's "voice", technically, is never heard. The character, in this movie, is the "same" character from a "Dan" song. What's the name of the movie, Dan's song, and the character that is common to both.>>
This one is really a "rompe cabeza"...I can't remember any woman's name in Dan's song other than "Virginia" from "Old Virginia", but I can't remember any movie in the 70's with the name Virginia, and that's what has me scratching my head. The only movie I can remember is the 1965 "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf", there the character in the title was non existent. Oh well, I am probably wrong on this one. Let somebody else figure it out...:0(

Sir Joe

Message: 30231 Posted: Fri Nov 07 13:43:45 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: California Wildfires

This is off topic so feel free to skip this message. Earlier there was some discussion about the California wildfires and I mentioned that my sister's father-in-law, brother-in-law, and 2 nephews lost their homes in the fires (they lived in Temecula). It turns out that only 3 of the 4 homes were completely destroyed and the 4th only suffered smoke and water damage. My sister sent me some pictures that I'd like to share with you. It sure helps put things in perspective and a realization of what's important and what's not. When this life is said and done, all we really take with us are our thoughts and our relationships, the material things are all left behind. Click on the following links to see the photos.

One of the houses at the nephew's wedding this summer (before the fire)
One nephew's destroyed home (the white strip across the back was the roof)
The other nephew's house which was completely destroyed
The father-in-law's completely destroyed house with the water damaged house (the brother-in-law's) in the background
Area around the homes that used to be covered with plants and trees - it looks like another planet now

Message: 30230 Posted: Fri Nov 07 13:11:58 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Bobby Hatfield, "Lost in Space" and National Anthem

Sergio, Unfortunatly I did not get to see them, but I am sure someone here did! I tried to get to Anaheim but couldn't make it that day.

Message: 30229 Posted: Fri Nov 07 13:07:46 2003 By: Danae
Subject: Nancy

<<Hi Nancy,
How is your arm doing?>>

Hey, Nancy, what's wrong with your arm?

Message: 30228 Posted: Fri Nov 07 11:03:13 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Bobby Hatfield, "Lost in Space" and National Anthem

Sir Joe, was going to give Goanna, or someone else a chance to respond. Goanna is at a disadvantage, as far as the follow up info on the cast of characters, from "LIS" is concerned.

Okay, here goes:

Angela Cartwright:

Pre "LIS" TV series: "Make Room For Daddy" (I knew)
Character: Linda, think she was stepdaughter to "Daddy" (I knew)

Greatest movie role: "Sound Of Music" (I knew)
Character: Brigitta (Found at Google)

Jonathan Harris:

Pre "LIS" series: "The Third Man" (Found at Google)
Character: Bradford Webster (Found at Google)

Pre "LIS" series: The Bill Dana Show" (Found at Google)
Character: Mr. Phillips (Found at Google)

Bill Mumy:

Greatest movie roll: My guess would be "Papillon" (Found at Google)
Character: Lariot (Found at Google)

Had to "cheat" to come up with most of the info.

Yes, Sir Joe, you get a "100", Although, technically, the name of the song is, "I Dreamed Of A Hillbilly Heaven"


The actor, Michael Rennie played a character in an episode, or maybe two, of the late 60's, TV series, "Batman". His character had the same name as one of the characters from a "Dewey" song. What's the title of Dewey's song, and the character name, common to both?

The actress, Jody Foster play a character in a movie. Her character had the same name as a character from a "Gerry" song. What's the name of Jody's movie, Gerry's song, and the character name, common to both?

There is an early 70's movie in which the main character is never seen, and who's "voice", technically, is never heard. The character, in this movie, is the "same" character from a "Dan" song. What's the name of the movie, Dan's song, and the character that is common to both.

Message: 30227 Posted: Fri Nov 07 11:02:35 2003 By: valynda
Subject: Teen Idols

Hi all,
Hey Sergio, of course I remember Bobby Sherman! "Julie, Julie, Julie do ya love me? Julie, Julie, Julie do you care?" I was at that perfect Teen Idol Loving age! I think 6th grade at that time. I adored Bobby Sherman in "Here Come The Brides." His character name was Jeremy. I grew up just loving that name, so that is what I named my son, when he came along many years later! Yep, there is a soft spot in my heart for Bobby Sherman!

Hi Nancy,
How is your arm doing?
I, like you and other fans have been looking in the stores for Holiday Harmony too. (I bought three last year, but I want to buy more, you know, just to show my support for our Guys!)
I have been dissapointed though. I could find dozens of copy's of Hillary Duff's Christmas C.D. (Yeah, like I'm gonna buy that one! Ha-Ha! I've seen the Chicago Xmas CD, Air Supply Xmas, (I do like Air Supply alot, but I don't think I will buy it.) And there are so many others out there. Why can't we find Holiday Harmony in Walmart and Target? It is very upsetting to a devoted fan like me!!
Bye for now, Valerie

Message: 30226 Posted: Fri Nov 07 04:23:39 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Bobby Hatfield, "Lost in Space" and National Anthem

<<Going back to The Righteous Brothers and their song, "Rock And Roll Heaven", does anyone remember a country-western song, from about 1961, with a very similar subject matter? What was the artist's name and the title of the song? This artist had a famous son, who was recently in the news. What was the son's name?>>

"Hillbilly Heaven"
"Tex Ritter"
"John Ritter"
Brother Vic, do I get 100 now?

Vic, you are not going to try to answer my quiz questions???

Ditto on Marta Kristen, she was definitely one of the reasons I watched Lost in Space. My favorite episode with Judy as a central figure was the one where she falls under the control of the giant flowers. Obviously, who ever wrote these shows was also "lost in space".;0)

Robyn, it must have been pretty cool to see Dewey and Billy Mumy sing the National Anthem at that Angels game. Tell us more. Thanks,

Sir Joe

Message: 30225 Posted: Fri Nov 07 00:59:40 2003 By: Goanna
Subject: Re: "Lost in Space" Quiz continues


Vgood Q/'s. I think for most of us here, after "LIS" there was little contact with our group of intergalactic travellers, a few cameo rolls here and there on various TV spots, but that was about the extent of it.... so, I'm a at a bit of a loss... Our networks here in OZ did some re-runs a couple of years back,,,, oooohhhh the memories..!!!!

The one thing that used to suck us all in was the ending of each show..."To be continued"... right at an exciting part of the episode... amazing how you don't see as much of that nowadays>

Message: 30224 Posted: Fri Nov 07 00:26:49 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Star Spangled

I seem to remember that Dewey and Bill Mumy sang it together at an Angels game a while back....

Message: 30223 Posted: Thu Nov 06 21:10:50 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Bobby Hatfield and "Lost in Space" Quiz answers

<<Do I get 100?
Sir Joe>>

Sir Joe, I'm only going to give you a "95". Here's why, brother:

You got the "Rock And Roll Heaven" question right.

<<Who is little "Anthony Fremont" and what is his connection to one of the LIS actors?>>

You got that right.

<<Do you, or anyone else, remember June Lockhart's, best known, pre "Lost In Space" roll, and the series name?>>

You got the series right, that being "Lassie" but you could have been more specific about the character's name. Yes, June Lockhart played "the mother", but her character's name was "Ruth Martin". Therefore, I can't give you full credit. Sorry Serge. ; )

The last question:

<<Who is the major LIS character that Sir Joe did not name, and why?; )>>

Your answer:

<<Mark Goddard played the good but hot tempered Major Don West. The reason I didn't name him is that I forgot his name when I was posting...One of my neurons was lost in, may I qualify, he was the least favorite of the characters too.;0)>>

Mark Goddard's character, "Major Don West" was, quite obviously, the love interest of, "Judy Robinson". Could this be the reason that he was, as you said "... the least favorite of the characters too.;0)", and why, as you said, "I forgot his name when I was posting..." LOL : ) ; ) As I remember, Marta Kristen was 95% of the reason I watched the show. I thought she was beautiful.

Going back to The Righteous Brothers and their song, "Rock And Roll Heaven", does anyone remember a country-western song, from about 1961, with a very similar subject matter? What was the artist's name and the title of the song? This artist had a famous son, who was recently in the news. What was the son's name?

Message: 30222 Posted: Thu Nov 06 18:49:22 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Asleep At The Wheel...Or Keyboard As It Were

"...sorry that we dozed off at the keyboard..." N.P., Jenna. Next week I'll bring lots of coffee!! We'll be, as Gilbert Godfrey (sp?) would say, "UP ALL NIGHT, UP ALL NIGHT!"

Message: 30221 Posted: Thu Nov 06 18:25:09 2003 By: Jenna
Subject: We should be free

Many thanks Stephen & SteveL for providing the links & info on House of Many Windows. Looking forward to hearing the whole song & cd instead of just bits & pieces, maybe the other artists on it are psychedelic? Always great to hear old or new "Gerry" or America music! Yes, it certainly foretold of greatness in the future... what a great surprise and a gem!

Thanks guys & gals for an interesting, provacative chat, Moser sorry that we dozed off at the keyboard....after staring at excel equasions & spreadsheets all day couldn't keep my eyes open much longer.

Looking forward to receiving that cd soon!
Thanks so much...

Message: 30220 Posted: Thu Nov 06 17:10:46 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Star Spangled

Or wouldn't it be apropos to hear them sing god bless america?

Message: 30219 Posted: Thu Nov 06 16:57:46 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Star Spangled

Just heard a certain previously famous boy group sing a lovely harmonized version of the Star Spangled Banner. This lead me to wonder, have our guys--either as a duo or a trio--ever sung the National Anthem at an event, sporting or otherwise? If yes, does anyone have a recording of it that they wouldn't mind sharing?

Message: 30218 Posted: Thu Nov 06 16:22:37 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: We should be free

Hi all,
Gerry, says he sounds like the Partridge Family, and I couldn't agree more. However, I think it also sounds a lot like "Easy Come, Easy Go", the hit by the late 60's teen idol, Bobby Sherman. Anyone remember him?

Message: 30217 Posted: Thu Nov 06 16:13:55 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Asleep At The Wheel...Or Keyboard As It Were & More

Hi Everyone :) YEP ~~ I am Guilty, YEP I did fall asleep at the wheel ooops I mean Keyboard ~~ Geeze I must be getting OLD, or could it have been all the excitement of me getting to see Vince with his ooooh soo nice baby blue eyes on the Country Music Awards.... Sorry Mo and the rest of you.... I felt sooooo bad when I woke up and looked at the screen and thought to myself oooooh no I fell asleep at live chat... I hurried and logged on but no one was there.... :( Sorry Mo! ~~ Sooo I shut everything off and headed back to my big soft pillow... to continue my dreams ~~ WOW getting to see Vince Gill, Alan Jackson, Kenny Chesney (he is alittle toooo skinny tho)& of course Tim McGraw too, musta been more than I could handle..... LOL! ~~ Hey Bones you sure made a quiet\quick exit... did you fall asleep with some nice visuals in your head from the tv channel you were watching? :)

Hi Anita ~~ Thanks for the Nice Pic ~~~ It did manage to get into my ooooh soooo filled up hotmail acc.. ~~ Nice you could join us, it sure is nice sharing the gift of gab late at night.... Come back again! We sure did cover a wide range of topics last night didn't we! Too much! ~~ Hey Kevin you sure made a quick exit too! ~~ Ding a Ling you ~~ too bad you weren't there to wake me up... :) Hmmm wonder why your snoring didn't wake me up! :)

Regarding Bobby Hatfield ~~ Yes I was sooo sad to hear this on the radio this morning.... When I think of the Righteous Bros. it takes me back to times spent with my best friend and her older sister, we would go cruising every weekend and Bev had the Righteous Bros playing in her 8 track player.. Yes Sergio & Vic ~~ Rock and Roll Heaven is one nice song and so appropriate for remembering his passing. I bet it would be great seeing them sing these nice songs... I do believe they were scheduled for a show here in my area in Jan or Feb at The Arcadia Theater, it has a nice quaint atmosphere! ~~ Such a shame!

WOW ~~ Thanks Stephen for bringing this neat lost song of Gerry's out of hiding for us. Thanks Steve L for posting a sample clip of it for us... I too could hear that one of a kind take me back sound. Too much ~~ I too loved the Cowsills songs very well, it has been a long time since I have heard any of them. Hey Jeff B I would have to add BJ Thomas to your list of groups, as well as Three Dog Night ~~ WOW soo neat thinking back to all my favorites of the songs then... :) ~~ Yep some pretty neat tv shows back then too. I was a fan of June Lockhart's for sure... I can remember watching LIS and Lassie oooh sooo well!

Well I headed of for a day of shopping and gabbing with my sister and sister in law.... We got some great deals at the Bath & Body Works ~~ LOL ~~~ I just love getting lost in all of those nice scents! If I worked there, my paycheck would never make it out the door! :) ~~ I also headed into the music store and I did find a couple of History cassettes and one Ventura Hwy Greatest Hits, but no Holiday Harmony there among the xmas cds... maybe they were sold out of it tho, cause I did see Carly Simon's xmas cd there as well as Chicago's...

Hey KevinS ~~ I loved reading your post about them being in the Book of all time who's who in Music Groups.... I have been having some interesting talks with the DJ about AMERICA and how they aren't just a 70's group... I have been hearing more and more of my AMERICA songs throughout the day on the radio... Nice for sure :) ~~ I am hoping that Gerry, Dewey & Andrew will be heading into the studio soon! :)

Well my mind is running amuck here, I probably haven't said everything that I wanted too, but I gotta go for now... Take care everyone! See ya, Nancy :)

~~~ I'll be better when I'm older, I'll be the Greatest Fan of Your Life ~~~ Sing it one more time Edwin McCain :) :) :)

Cheers Jason ~~ Yep Bernie sure did a great job on some nice songs... thanks for the info on his new cd.

Message: 30216 Posted: Thu Nov 06 16:11:23 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: "Lost in Space" Quiz continues

Vic, Goanna or any other LIS fan,

June Lockhart and Guy Williams were not the only ones who "graduated" as regulars from previous shows. Jonathan Harris and Angela Cartwright did too? Can you name them?

What were Billy Mumy's and Angela Cartwright's greatest movie roles?

Good luck,

Sir Joe

Message: 30215 Posted: Thu Nov 06 15:38:45 2003 By: TommieGirl
Subject: Ramblings

"Unchained Melody" was my favorite Righteous Brothers song (Nothing original about me there, I guess). It was featured prominently at my wedding (As was "All My Life") and is even more poignant to listen to now. Rest in peace, Bobby.

Sorry I missed chat again. Nancy, Jenna, Amgirl and all - hope you're having a great week and that I make it back one of these happy Wednesday nights when chaos doesn't reign supreme at my house.

Great song, Gerry - agreed with the rest of the folder, very Cowsills and Cassidy-type. Well done, especially at such a young age!

Happy Thursday -


Message: 30214 Posted: Thu Nov 06 14:36:18 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Bobby Hatfield and "Lost in Space" Quiz answers

Vic, glad you are a LIS fan, wow that makes three of us. Any more out there? Here are the answers:

<<Does anyone remember their 1974 (I think it was 1974) song, that would be quite appropriate at this time, with Bobby's passing?>>
I think it was "Rock and Roll Heaven" (Very appropriate, he joins the rest)

<<remember June Lockhart's, best known, pre "Lost In Space" roll, and the series name?>>
The mother in the "Lassie" series.

<<Who is little "Anthony Fremont" and what is his connection to one of the LIS actors?>>

Billy Mumy played little Anthony Fremont in the Twilight Zone episode, "It's a Good Life" from 1961. He played an evil controlling little boy who had the whole town controlled and terrorized.

<<Who is the major LIS character that Sir Joe did not name, and why?; )>>

Mark Goddard played the good but hot tempered Major Don West. The reason I didn't name him is that I forgot his name when I was posting...One of my neurons was lost in, may I qualify, he was the least favorite of the characters too.;0)

Do I get 100?
Sir Joe

Message: 30213 Posted: Thu Nov 06 12:49:36 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Bobby Hatfield and "Lost in Space"

Sergio, you characterized The Righteous Brother's sound, perfectly. Does anyone remember their 1974 (I think it was 1974) song, that would be quite appropriate at this time, with Bobby's passing?

Goanna and Serge, I too was a "Lost In Space" fan. This is way off topic, but how about a little "Lost In Space" trivia?

Serge, you mentioned Guy Williams' other well known roll, that being, Zorro, in the Disney series, "Zorro". Do you, or anyone else, remember June Lockhart's, best known, pre "Lost In Space" roll, and the series name?

Who is little "Anthony Fremont" and what is his connection to one of the LIS actors?

Who is the major LIS character that Sir Joe did not name, and why?; )

Message: 30212 Posted: Thu Nov 06 09:48:00 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Bobby Hatfield and "Lost in Space"


Bobby Hatfield's passing is very sad news indeed, I really like the music of The Righteous Brothers, and Bobby added the electricity and fireworks to the duo's sound, perfectly melding Bill's deep smoldering voice with his own wailing soulful voice. The first time I saw them on TV was on the legendary "Shindig" show (1965), and I remember how blown away I was by seeing them perform "You've Lost that Loving Feeling". Their songs are such a part of my own life's soundtrack. Amazingly just now, "Just Once In My Life", came on the radio, a song written by Carole King and Gerry Goffin and performed by the Righteous Bros. Such a great "Wall of Sound" song produced by Phil Spector, with ethereal background singing by Cher and the Ronettes. Wow! No one makes makes great songs like that anymore...

On a brighter note, Goanna, I just had to comment on your reference to "Lost in Space". One of my all time favorite shows. Between 1965 and 1967, I watched every single show, I believe it came on Wednesday nights. Aah the cast, wise and dashing former Zorro, Guy Williams as William Robinson, comforting June Lockhart as his dutiful wife always tending to her hydroponic garden, lovely Angela Cartwright as Penny, sexy Marta Kristen as Judy, the later AMERICA connected, Billy Mumy as smart young Will, and my favorite, Dr. Smith, the prissy villain and let's not forget the wisecracking and alertful Robot, alerting "Danger, Danger, Will Robinson" with his flailing arms. By today's standards, the show comes off as "campy", but it always takes me back to my early teens, truly a great blast from the past.

Have a nice day all,


Message: 30211 Posted: Thu Nov 06 09:32:19 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: The Cowsills

Yeah I remember the networks actually tried to get the Cowsills to do the sitcom, but the deal fell through ( I think they were not interested in doing televsion) so they made up a family and the rest is history.

Message: 30210 Posted: Thu Nov 06 08:59:25 2003 By: Mark
Subject: Re: The Cowsills

Yes the Cowsills were the inspiration for the TV show "The Partridge Family." Funny that the imaginary group is better known than the realy group that inspired them.

Message: 30209 Posted: Thu Nov 06 08:06:00 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Correction on spelling of artist's name.

That would be, Bill Medley.

Message: 30208 Posted: Thu Nov 06 08:02:01 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Correction on song title

I second that, Vic. We've lost another great one. Rest in peace, Bobby.

Message: 30207 Posted: Thu Nov 06 07:59:35 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Asleep At The Wheel...Or Keyboard As It Were

Hi to all who were on the chat last night! I enjoyed speaking with you. Wish my schedule allowed me to be there more often. See you here on the folder.

Message: 30206 Posted: Thu Nov 06 07:58:41 2003 By: jeff brink
Subject: Re: The Cowsills

The rain, the park and other things was an excellent song. Lots of great songs back in those days. The Grass roots, Burt Bacharach(sp) songs, the Association, Johnny Rivers and so on.

Wonder would GB ever consider a remake of "We should be free"?

Message: 30205 Posted: Thu Nov 06 07:58:02 2003 By: Vic
Subject: Re: Correction on song title

Very sad about the passing of Bobby Hatfield. What a magnificent voice he had. His and Bill Medely's rich, full, voice made for some of the most soulful (blue eyed) music of their day, or any day.

Message: 30204 Posted: Thu Nov 06 07:53:00 2003 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: The Cowsills

Weren't the Cowsills the inspiration for the Partridge Family?

Message: 30203 Posted: Thu Nov 06 07:11:42 2003 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Correction on song title

That should read "Indian Lake" NOT "Indian River." I stand humbled before you all.....

Message: 30202 Posted: Thu Nov 06 07:10:32 2003 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: The Cowsills

Steve mentioned the Cowsills and the one hit he remembered...Actually,they had 3. "The Rain,the park & other things" was a #2 hit,and was featured most prominently in the Jim Carrey movie "Dumb & Dumber" from several years back. Thats my favorite by them. "Hair" and "Indian River" were also Top 10. That Millenium collection will also feature their version of "Love American Style" which would be the theme to the Early 70's TV show of the same name,though thats not the actual version that made the cut on TV.

Message: 30201 Posted: Thu Nov 06 07:06:39 2003 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: We should be free

I've had a chance to hear the full song and I also concur with some of the comments on this board. I thought it had a very "60's" feel to it--Cowsills,Partridge Family influences etc. Nice to hear another "Rarity" from so far back. Was obviously a sign of great things to come. Thanks Gerry...

Message: 30200 Posted: Thu Nov 06 06:58:38 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: We should be free

Mo, I remember the Cowsills and I really liked their hits (did they have more than 1 hit?). The song I remember most is "Hair" but they have a Best of Cowsills: Millennium Collection CD with 12 tracks on it so I guess they did have more than 1.

Regarding the new America album, I haven't heard anything official about it. I don't even know if they're in the recording studio or not during this break from touring. I know they were planning on it and Andrew Gold was anxious to get started, but I don't know if it's really happening.

As far as timing goes, even if they were in the studio right now and everything went perfect, about the earliest they could release an album would be the spring of next year. So the Australian/European tour won't likely coincide with the release date.

All of this is my speculation because I haven't heard anything official. If I do, I'll be sure to post it here right away.


Message: 30199 Posted: Thu Nov 06 06:31:30 2003 By: Danae
Subject: Re: Hot Town backvocals


Message: 30198 Posted: Thu Nov 06 06:20:16 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Asleep At The Wheel...Or Keyboard As It Were

Thanks, y'ans guys for a fun chat last evening. Thanks for the "sans shirt" photos, Anita. Nice treat. Hey, Jenna and Nancy, did you girls fall asleep on your keyboards or what? You left me alone with the G-man. And, no, I don't mean THAT G-man, sadly...nice thought though. Or was it Dan Peek? One never knows for sure. Anyway, it was fun...and enlightening.

Message: 30197 Posted: Thu Nov 06 04:58:42 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Re: we should be free

First, thanks to Steve for uploading this (can't wait for my CD to arrive in the mail!). I definitely agree that this is very 60s-esque, either Partridge Family or Cowsills. Delightful in any case! And so well done for someone so young.

Message: 30196 Posted: Thu Nov 06 04:26:52 2003 By: Goanna
Subject: Re: We should be free

Very Cool indeed Gerry... very goodtime, feelgood - Afro, Shell Necklace, Open wide collar shirt & Flares era,,,, and no I don't mean the seventies...! but just prior when watching "Lost In Space" was the highlight of the week...

Message: 30195 Posted: Wed Nov 05 22:27:48 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: We should be free

Steve's quote, "Gerry mentioned something about singing the song in his very best Partridge Family tone when he was 15 or 16 so it should be very interesting to hear." Jimnak's quote, "...very groovy. Pre-Keith Partridge." Well, I don't know about the timing of all of this--whether it was PRE- or POST- Partridge Family. Either way, it definitely has a David Cassidy-esque sound. Does anyone remember the Cowsills? Same genre, I think. Isn't the name of this album Psychedelic Pstones? This song is definitely NOT what I would consider psychedelic. Maybe I've missed the meaning of the word. Good marketing idea though.

Speaking of marketing...what is the timetable for the new America album? Is the Australian/European tour going to coincide with the release date? Is there anything we domestic fans can do in advance to build anticipation? Any demos you'd like us to sample? Be happy to oblige in any way. Just let us know.

Message: 30194 Posted: Wed Nov 05 20:14:35 2003 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: We should be free

very groovy. Pre-Keith Partridge.

Message: 30193 Posted: Wed Nov 05 19:45:38 2003 By: jeff brink
Subject: Re: We should be free that nice 60's feel to it IMO.

carry on.

Message: 30192 Posted: Wed Nov 05 18:59:56 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: We should be free

Click here to download/listen to a 1 minute sound clip of Gerry's lost song, "We Should Be Free". Many thanks to Mark Frumento for making it available and to Gerry for being so talented at such a young age!

Message: 30191 Posted: Wed Nov 05 16:40:02 2003 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Hot Town backvocals


Message: 30190 Posted: Wed Nov 05 14:20:56 2003 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Hot Town backvocals

It's Mo, Nancy and Nina.

Message: 30189 Posted: Wed Nov 05 13:26:40 2003 By: Danae
Subject: Hot Town backvocals

Does anybody know who are the women that hold the backvocals in "Hot Town"?

Message: 30188 Posted: Wed Nov 05 11:02:59 2003 By: Erin
Subject: come to reno

So I work on a TV show called Nevada Newsmakers. Today our guests were the Captain and Tennille. I requested Muskrat Love, but sadly, didn't get to hear it. America should come on Nevada Newsmakers. America should come to Nevada...sometime soon?? We miss you here!
Hope everyone's having a great week.

Erin :o)

Message: 30187 Posted: Wed Nov 05 09:42:24 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: We should be free

I'm working on getting a soundclip of this song which I'll post here. With a little luck I'll have it by tonight.

Message: 30186 Posted: Wed Nov 05 09:22:22 2003 By: Beth
Subject: We should be free

Just ordered mine off Amazon.......Interesting liner notes, thanks all!


Message: 30185 Posted: Wed Nov 05 06:45:02 2003 By: KevinS.
Subject: Blue Rodeo.

I've been listening to another CD that is awesome. It's from Tim Easton, Break Your Mamma's Heart. Sounds like Paul Simon meets America.

Great stuff.


Message: 30184 Posted: Wed Nov 05 06:43:20 2003 By: KevinS.
Subject: Harbor on CD.

I saw Harbor on CD in the record store yesterday. Not an import, but a domestic release from Warner Bros. I hadn't seen that before.


Message: 30183 Posted: Tue Nov 04 13:49:03 2003 By: Danae
Subject: Re: Uriah Heep in Greece (for speechwriter)

I have no idea. It was my dad who speaked with Nicos about the concert. The only things I know about it are those I wrote in my past message.
I'm sorry.

Message: 30182 Posted: Tue Nov 04 13:13:58 2003 By: speechwriter
Subject: Re: Uriah Heep in Greece

Do you happen to know if Ken Hensley was part of the line-up? I really thought his "Proud Words on a Dusty Shelf" solo disc wasn't bad.

Message: 30181 Posted: Tue Nov 04 13:04:03 2003 By: America Legend
Subject: Re : We should be Free


Nice job on the info, I'm sure everyone will think it's interesting

-----But then, What America material isn't great,even if Gerry was only 15 years old ?????????????


Message: 30180 Posted: Tue Nov 04 13:01:24 2003 By: speechwriter
Subject: Re: Blue Rodeo

Agreed. However, the curious should be aware that, if they go mining the depths of the back catalogue, Blue Rodeo's (ample) body of work becomes far less easy to categorize and, in some cases, makes for more
challenging listening.

Message: 30179 Posted: Tue Nov 04 12:02:55 2003 By: SteveW
Subject: Blue Rodeo

Along with the Thorns and Jayhawks previously mentioned here, America fans may be interested in the band Blue Rodeo from Canada. They too have a harmony-rich, hook-laden folk/country/rock sound. Two releases I'd recommend are Five Days in July and their latest, Palace of Gold.

Message: 30178 Posted: Mon Nov 03 19:36:26 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Re: We Should Be Free

Steve, thanks for the link to the liner notes. As soon as I get a hold of the CD, I'd be pleased to post my comments. Somehow, I already know I'm gonna love it :>)

Message: 30177 Posted: Mon Nov 03 19:20:59 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: We Should Be Free

Here's a link to the liner notes for Gerry's lost song, "We Should Be Free". I sent a copy of these notes to Gerry and he said that he's had some time to think about it and he's remembering a little more. He said he'd get back to me later with some more information which I'll pass along to you as soon as I get it. Anita (and anyone else who currently has or soon receives the CD), be sure to let us know when you get it and what you think about it. Gerry mentioned something about singing the song in his very best Partridge Family tone when he was 15 or 16 so it should be very interesting to hear.

Message: 30176 Posted: Mon Nov 03 19:16:54 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Randy Meisner - EAGLES

Jas ~ Interesting about the Meisner, Swan and Rich CD. I had not previously heard about it. Your mention of Billy Swan reminds me of his 1974 hit song, "I Can Help". As you and others may already know, his song contains a lyric that has a double-meaning. I won't mention the exact lyric here since it's a tad risque but it's not too unlike the Bellamy Brothers lyric from one of their songs: "If I told you you have a beautiful body, would you hold it against me?"

[Chris (aka "holiday") ~ It's good to read your post from the other day. I hope you get to see the guys in concert when they tour "Down Under".]

Message: 30175 Posted: Mon Nov 03 16:11:12 2003 By: Anita
Subject: Re: House of Many Windows

I ordered mine from the epinions site, which links to It says it is in danger of selling out on this site, so if you're interested, better get it soon. (I didn't recognize any other artist on the CD.)

Message: 30174 Posted: Mon Nov 03 15:47:45 2003 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: House of Many Windows

Sounds VERY interesting... can't wait to learn more ! Thanks.

Message: 30173 Posted: Mon Nov 03 15:17:27 2003 By: AmericaSL
Subject: House of Many Windows

I'll have more information later (perhaps tomorrow), but here's a quick update before I have to run. Gerry's lost song is titled "We Should Be Free" and it is on a recently released CD called "House of Many Windows: Psychedelic Pstones 3". It is on sale on in the US and UK as well as other online stores. Below there are a few links to places you can buy it. Gerry is getting some information about the CD to send to me plus I have some information that Stephen sent me. It will take some time to sift through it all and get it posted but I'll work on it as soon as I can. If anyone has or wants to get this CD, let me (us) know what you think about it. I'll share Gerry's thoughts later. link link link link

Message: 30172 Posted: Mon Nov 03 14:51:16 2003 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Uriah Heep in Greece

Uriah Heep, now there's a band I haven't heard in years. I used to have a couple of their albums when I was in High School. Demons and Wizards, and Magicians Birthday. Both were very good but Demons and Wizards was the better of the two. It had their only Top 40 hit in the US Easy Living and another minor hit Traveler in Time. The art work for each album was very distinctive.

Sorry for the detour down memory lane ;>

Message: 30171 Posted: Mon Nov 03 12:53:57 2003 By: Danae
Subject: Uriah Heep in Greece

Yesterday, Uriah Heep gave a concert in Athens.
Dad had seen a poster announcing the concert, and we both wanted to go, but unfortunately, he didn't see when the concert was, so we missed it.
My cousin Nicos, who is 19 years old, writes articles for a rock magazine. So, he had the chance to meet Uriah Heep and take them an interview for the magazine he writes for. He also took some photos with Uriah Heep!
More details to come about this concert.
Someone must take a lesson and come in Greece finally.
(I can be evil sometimes)

Message: 30170 Posted: Mon Nov 03 12:44:15 2003 By: America Legend
Subject: Gerry's lost song Info

Hi All,

I just e-mailed the info about where you can purchase the cd with Gerry's lost song to Steve Lowry.

He should be posting it soon

It's a pretty interesting story

--------Stephen Baratta

Message: 30169 Posted: Mon Nov 03 10:58:55 2003 By: KevinS.
Subject: They're Officially Somebody.

I just got my copy of the 2003 People Magazine Almanac, The Ultimate Celebrity Source Book (don't ask why) and Gerry Beckley, Dewey Bunnnell and Dan Peek are all listed. It says on the back jacket that "this is the first place to look for any detail on anyone who matters." It's official. America matters.


Message: 30168 Posted: Mon Nov 03 08:29:12 2003 By: Jason Smith
Subject: Randy Meisner - EAGLES

Whilst on the subject of the Eagles I recently bought a copy of MEISNER, SWAN & RICH which came out in 2002. This album features Randy Meisner of the EAGLES, Billy Swan and Charlie Rich Jnr.

This is a great little country rock album featuring some good songs. Sadly Randy only has one featured solo written song and one he's co- written with the other members. However, his vocals feature on a fair number of the tracks and recall the hey day of the EAGLES.

Best track is ONE USED DIAMOND not sung by Randy but still a class number.


Message: 30167 Posted: Mon Nov 03 08:11:56 2003 By: Jason Smith
Subject: Bernie Leadon (Eagles) - new Solo Album

Just thought i'd let people know in case they hadn't heard. Bernie Leadon of the Eagles has released a new solo album entitled MIRRORS. This is his very first solo album and 2nd to feature his lead vocals since his collaboration with Micheal Georgeides in 1977 NATURAL PROGRESSIONS.

I for one am a huge Bernie fan and can't wait to get my hands on this new CD which interestingly has been produced by Ethan Johns (Producer of COUNTING CROWS, JAYHAWKS, etc) who is the son of Glyn Johns the producer of the 1st 3 EAGLES LPs.

Not sure if or when this CD will be available in the shops but you can order a special signed copy from

I'd love to hear if anyone has already got it.



Message: 30166 Posted: Mon Nov 03 06:48:57 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: San Specs

Rather, "That was a surprise to me".

Message: 30165 Posted: Mon Nov 03 06:47:27 2003 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: San Specs

I can't say I've personally seen Gerry without his glasses on, but I can say I saw Gerry wearing glasses that I've never seen him wear in any photos. Not too long ago, I personally saw the G-Man wearing brownish-colored plastic frame glasses instead of his gold wire frame ones. The was a surprise to me. The eye pieces were rectangular-shaped. They weren't sunglasses.

Message: 30164 Posted: Sun Nov 02 20:00:59 2003 By: Moser
Subject: On The Off Chance

On the off chance that our musical heroes are entering the studio this week (or soon), I'd just like to say have fun, be creative, and above all HURRY UP!! Spending our free time this Spring to promote a new, hot America single to our radio stations is something I'm sure we'd all love to do.

I was at the mall the other day looking for some last minute stuff to complete our Halloween costumes. As always, I stopped by the record store to see what America goodies they might have in stock. Unfortunately, they didn't have anything that I could use but I was glad to see two copies of the Highway set in addition to about 6 other titles in the America slot. There was also a copy of Holiday Harmony in the rather large selection of Christmas CDs. Ever impressive. I was glad to see that.

I heard some America scuttlebutt from a very unlikely source on Friday--my mother. Imagine that. I was talking to her for a few minutes just catching up. As I was saying goodbye and I'll see you at Thanksgiving, she said something about not getting to see me again in December since the America show was cancelled. I was very confused since I had no idea what the heck she meant. Apparently, America was tentatively scheduled to appear at Seven Springs Resort which is not far from our hometown. That is the place that both Nancy and I (unbeknownst to each of us) got to see the guys in Feb, 2002. Of course, my mother correctly assumed that if America was coming to the Springs that I would surely make the trek and she would therefore get to see me and possibly some portion of my family. She went on to explain that the appearance had been cancelled because they were going on tour in Europe instead. Who knew my mom had inside contacts?!! I was impressed. I think perhaps the date may have been incorrect since the Springs has Winterfest in the early part of February and that is the likely time that they would have invited an act like America to play. And, that would coincide moreso with the time that the band will be overseas for their tour. But, hey, it seems she knew what the heck she was talking about. Pretty good for an old broad whose musical tastes generally lean toward "Three Coins In the Fountain" or anything she can jitterbug to! GO GRAMMA!

Have a great week, Everyone.

Message: 30163 Posted: Sun Nov 02 07:41:57 2003 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: oh this too ~Hark~Northern Lights~Gorgeous weekend

Hi Everyone Yep it sure has been Gorgeous here the last couple of days! ~~ Brought one of my favorite songs to my fingertips ~~~ One Morning when the mists came down, I woke up early and I looked around, my baby slept,the sky was blue, I started walking, thinking only of YOU, I'm thinking up and down the road, past the people that I barely know, round the bend to the run off wash, I found a feather that a quail had lost ~~ OOOoohh Where are You Going Now My Friend, where are you going now ... are You Going to See Them on the Mountain now, going to see them trees, going to watch the circles take a bow, going to help agree, to beeee today ~~~ Sing it for us Dewey, and I love How Gerry does the backgrounds on this ~~ Nice visual of this weekend for sure! :)

Belated Birthday wishes Dan ~~ I hope your day was filled with all that makes you happiest! ~~ hmmm among the songs I was listening to before falling asleep, were ~~ These Brown Eyes of Mine, Can't You See, Rainy Day, Saturn Nights, Don't Cross the River, Old Virginia, It's Life ~~~ Thanks for all of your nice Harmonizing ways! :)

Cheers Jimmmmmmmmmmbob ~~ Alright, I love it, you got your front row tics.... Yes Yes Yes :) ~~ You gotta take your signed guitar along with You on that special night and Join Gerry, Dewey, Richard, Woodz & Willie for Horse & the ZZ dip... Oooooh How Neat that would be, and I would love to be there to get to take this in for sure.... WOW ~~ NZ & OZ are being treated nicely with shows... Are You gonna go see Chicago too? ~~ I am glad Robert Lamm is still with them, but I do miss Peter Cetera being with them. Thanks Eddy for sharing your info on the today Chicago. They were at Hershey Park for a show this summer, I mentioned it to Hubby, but as I have mentioned before, he really isn't into seeing music shows the way I am... Hmmm I am wondering if they sing "If You Leave Me Now" it has always been a fave of mine, ~~~~ If You leave me now, you'll take away the very heart of meeee, a love like ours, thats love, is hard to find, how can we let it slip awaaaay, we've come too far to leave it all behind, how could we end it all this way, when tomorrow comes and we both regret the things we've said todayyyy, If you leave me now, you'll take away the Biggest Part of Me, woooo ooooo no baby please don't goooo ~~~ I love the accoustics in this song soo much ~ Nice! ~~~ Sorry for getting LOST there for a minute! :) ~~~ Hey Jimmmmmbob sooo neat you were listening to BoddenTown & Go Man Go, I fell asleep here in my comp. chair on friday night with some nice songs playing in my headphones.... meanwhile my daughter had fallen asleep on the couch with the Disney channel on, and the movie Brother Bear opened up at theaters this weekend, and Phil Collins again has done some magic in his lyrics and music on the songs for this movie, they have a show that kinda goes behind the scenes of making these movies, and Phil was the guest on this show that kept replaying all night... soo my concious was kinda absorbing this too... I know You all probably think I am nuts... Ooooooh well what can I say, I really live an exciting weekend nite life ~~ Hahhahahahahhaah! :) ~~~ as Seal sings ~~~ Why must we Dream in Metaphorms, tryyyy to hold onto something we couldn't understand, couldn't understand, and why must we argue loudly, when Peace is our one salvation, couldn't understand, couldn't understand, wooooo oooooooooh oooooooooo oooooooooohhoooooooo ~~~ Seal sure has a way with his song messages, that I can get lost in! :)

Hey there Mo, Karen, Steve O ~~~ Yes those Northern Lights were AWESOME for sure, my first time at ever getting to see them, my son Adam came home from his work and said Mom you gotta come out here and see the sky, there is something going on .... he said I followed it the whole way home, so we all headed out to catch a glimpse of this, and WOW WOW was it a Magical Metaphor, that none of us could understand at first, then I said I wonder if this is a part of the Solar Bursts that were taking place... I was gonna email our tv weatherman, but when Adam turned on his AOL inst mess. all of his friends away messages said they were out catching the Northern Lights... WOW I am soooo glad I didn't miss seeing this, we were treated to a pinkesh red glow, and it was like coming down in Hazy streams... on the 11pm news, the weatherman said that he had gotten soo many calls & emails from all over our listening area describing the spectacular sitings.... another one of Seals songs made sense of this all for me ~~~ I live my life, I live it slowly, & I take my time I'm in no Hurry, yeahhhhh, I'm living the way I could, then I would surely, I would dannnnce with a total stranger and hold Him in my Arms, Hellll there could be no Danger, if I'd open, cause when the cryin stops If I try for Happiness, maybe that would make me feel better, I can't change, I can't lose my desires, I'd be a NewBorn Friend for the world ~~~ Sing it Seal :);):) ~~~ Yep Mo it was trick or treat night here too, the nicest one we have seen for about 5 years... too bad it was only time for the ToeNail Moon in the sky! ~~ Michael Jackson's great full version of "Thriller" was playing here on my puter alot friday, you should see the great Dance Performance that the older girls in Laura's Dance Studio do to this, they dress in costumes and their moves are right in step with the many beat counts... of this One of a Kind Visual song... They take 1st Place every time they perform it.... Laura is hoping that she too will get to learn this, and to get the chance to perform it one day. ~~ I am not into Michael Jackson that much, but I gotta say that some of his songs are great moving ones... even makes me wanna dress up and give it a shot... LOL!!! :) ~~ Hmmm there I go again, I am getting LOST for sure! ~~ Ahhh what the Heck it feels good to get Lost once in awhile doesn't it? Hahahahhahaah!

Hi there Howie ~~ Great to hear from you! ~~ Soo neat you getting to see this Beachago concert ~~ WOW that had to be a nice memory keepsake for sure! :)

Hi Jenna, Sergio, Valerie ~~~ I took my little niece with me to the school Halloween Parade on friday afternoon, and there were lots of neat costumes, in fact Sergio, I do believe I saw some of these intersting chubby people... at least seeing them, kinda brought a visual of what they would look like to me. ~~ I second all of the concerns for our friends out there in Calif, I still haven't heard anything from Mary H, I hope all is well for her family and home. ~~ I had forgotten to mention Leakycanoe in my other email... sooo Leaky if you are out there, I hope you and your family are alright too. ~~ Thanks Robyn for assuring me at the live chat that my friend from Sunnyvale is away from this...

I have been checking out Dido's & Sarah McLachlan's new CD songs, I gotta say I am liking what I am hearing alot, some really nice ACCOUSTICS in these songs... I preordered my Afterglow cd on VH1 for a nice special offer... sooo Mr Mailman ~~ I will be looking forward to you coming my way sooon! :)

Hmmmm ~~ Really off topic here ~~ I go to see the Doc tomorrow about my MRI results... I am Hoping that the word Neurosurgeon is taken out of the picture for sure!

Hi Paul & Beth ~~ Hark the Herald Angels is definitely one of AMERICA's songs that stopped me in my tracks, when I heard it on the radio... I loved getting to see them sing God Bless Ye Merry Gentlemen & another one that has escaped my mind at the moment.. on a long ago Solid Gold xmas countdown show..... Nice :)

Gotta go get my dinner started, have a great day everyone, Nancy :)

~~~ Just take a look through my eyes, everything changes, you'll be amazed, what you find, just what you'll find, there's a better place out there, if you take a look through my eyes ~~~ Sing it for me again Phil Collins ~~ Take a Look Through My Eyes ~~ I am as anxious as my kids are to see this Brother Bear movie... :) :) :)

Message: 30162 Posted: Sat Nov 01 19:33:14 2003 By: Paul
Subject: Re: Hark

Beth...thanks for that info. I had the same reaction having heard it on the radio several years ago. Only heard it once, have been looking for it ever since. I began to wonder if I even heard it.

Thanks again, Paul

Message: 30161 Posted: Sat Nov 01 16:45:42 2003 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: The Northern Lights

Living here in Upper Michigan,I see the Northern Lights on a constant basis. Very much appreciated living here in the "U.P."
They're hard to explain,but oh what a sight at night!

Message: 30160 Posted: Sat Nov 01 13:01:50 2003 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Re: oh, this too

Saw Chicago / Beach Boys at Madison Square garden June of 1975. IT was a major tour. I think it was called Beachago tour or something like that. But it was the greatest concert I have ever seen. Finale was Jumpin Jack Flash performed by Chicago and Beach Boys. Hope everyone is having a great weekend with this gorgeous weather here in the North east.

Message: 30159 Posted: Sat Nov 01 08:34:05 2003 By: Karen L
Subject: Moser - Northern Lights

Hi Mo! So glad you got to see those awesome Northern Lights! I've seen them twice in my life where they were just brilliant - red and green ribbons and waves in the sky. Very magical, indeed. I'm absolutely fascinated by them. Just had to comment on that. Does anyone else here have any stories about seeing the Northern Lights? Not exactly on topic, I know, but many of us seem to appreciate nature and scenery (Steve's photos, etc.). Those Northern Lights rank right up there with seeing America in concert, in my book - my favorite things in life.

Message: 30158 Posted: Sat Nov 01 05:05:37 2003 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: oh, this too

Check out, that has ALL the info you'll ever need on the band..........

Message: 30157 Posted: Sat Nov 01 04:55:04 2003 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: oh, this too

Hey Jimbob!
Maybe I could answer that question, I love Chicago, been getting the Rhino re-issues, & they are GREAT!
Jason Sheff replaced Peter Cetera many years ago, original guitarist Terry Kath had accident w/a loaded gun, & as far as I know original drummer Danny Seraphine is not w/them anymore.
Robert Lamm is still w/the group, I really don't think it could be "Chicago" w/out him, along w/the a couple of the "horn players"
I got to see Chicago once years ago right after Peter left, & it was a great concert! (would love to see them again!)
Wow, if you get to see a jam, or anything, let me know, that would be a real treat to see!

Message: 30156 Posted: Sat Nov 01 04:18:35 2003 By: jimbob
Subject: Van Go Gan

I just listened to Bodden Town and then Go MAN Go, and I have to say to those that havnt yet heard GMG, you gotta hear it! Wonderful Gerry stuff! Its the remix of Van Go Gan, and both recordings are so good,it surprises me they would even want to play the old hits. Ok, Dewey, your turn.......!

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