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Message: 35334 Posted: Tue Aug 31 20:37:51 2004 By: Kade
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom

Robyn, our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. Kade

Message: 35333 Posted: Tue Aug 31 20:32:21 2004 By: Andy
Subject: Re: I Heard a Song...

"As I was watching a rerun of "Friends" today, guess which song was playing as Joey was driving through the desert to Las Vegas?"
Ummmmm...that's a tough one...could it be "IT'S RAINING AGAIN" by Supertramp? :-)

Message: 35332 Posted: Tue Aug 31 20:00:01 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Signs

One more thing...Sunday afternoon I was invited to a bbq at someones home I had never been to before. There was a sign (very cutely painted) hanging on the shed there, that said "Live America, laugh America, Love America" Made me think of everyone here. :)
Mark M

Message: 35331 Posted: Tue Aug 31 19:47:35 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Time Machine-"O.T."

I remember "Cherry hill park" "Mary Hill use to hang out in Cherry hill park....Playing games with all the boys, till way after dark"
I like that song......
I don't recall the others?
Mark M

Message: 35330 Posted: Tue Aug 31 19:41:06 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: I Heard a Song...

Nancy M
I saw the same "Friends" tonight myself.....too bad they didn't play the whole song ! "Poor Joey"
Mark M

Message: 35329 Posted: Tue Aug 31 19:35:56 2004 By: rc
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom

((((Robyn)))) You have my deepest condolences. It's always hard losing a loved one but she'll live on in your heart and memories.


Message: 35328 Posted: Tue Aug 31 19:05:34 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Time Machine-"O.T."

Mark M,

Thanks for sharing your story. Yes, Billy Joe Royal was the singer to that great 1965 classic "Down in the Boondocks". I saw Billy in his heyday as part of "Dick Clark's Where the Action Is" live show here in New Orleans at the Municipal Auditorium in 1966. He performed along with Paul Revere and the Raiders, Gary Lewis and the Playboys, Linda Scott, and Steve Alaimo. It was actually my first concert. By the way, I had the pleasure of seeing him last Fall, and he was very good. His voice is still strong. Just today I heard he will be here this coming weekend again! For 5 free shows, I may go see him again...His other pop hits were "I knew you When", "Cherry Hill Park" and "Hush" among many other country hits.

Message: 35327 Posted: Tue Aug 31 17:46:59 2004 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Re: WAYOFF TOPIC -My Mom

Robyn, I'm so sorry to hear of the loss of your mom. I will pray for you and your family at this sad time. I gave my family an extra hug today. Take care and let us know how you are doing when you get a chance.~~~Cathy

Message: 35326 Posted: Tue Aug 31 17:34:54 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom

I'm so sorry to hear of your mom's passing. My deepest sympathy to you and your family. Jeff, the kids, and I will keep you all in our thoughts and prayers. Don't forget to take good care of yourself in this time.

Message: 35325 Posted: Tue Aug 31 17:31:11 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: I Heard a Song...

As I was watching a rerun of "Friends" today, guess which song was playing as Joey was driving through the desert to Las Vegas? (Hint: our favorite group sings it!)

Message: 35324 Posted: Tue Aug 31 16:36:14 2004 By: AmericanGirl
Subject: Re: WAYOFF TOPIC -My Mom

Robyn, I'm so terribly sorry to hear about your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Message: 35323 Posted: Tue Aug 31 15:51:06 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: WAYOFF TOPIC -My Mom

Hi Robyn ~~ I just wanted to extend My Deepest Sympathy to You & Your Family! My thoughts & prayers are with You! ~~ Thanks for Sharing this with us, that is sooo Special that Your Mom was surrounded by her family! Take Care! :)

Message: 35322 Posted: Tue Aug 31 15:47:04 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom

Robyn, my sympathies on the loss of your mom. Take care.

Message: 35321 Posted: Tue Aug 31 15:45:40 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom

Hey Robyn
I am sorry for your loss. My Mom passed away last year too, and I still miss her everyday.
Regards, Mark M

Message: 35320 Posted: Tue Aug 31 15:40:36 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Bits of Wisdom

Thanks Mark
I didn't know that song was written from that "Chiffon" event. Just when you think you know it all...someone proves you wrong ! :)
Which brings me back to last weeks topic....on that same "Goerge Harrison" album is one of my favorite "Harrison tracks". "Pure Smokey". Inspired by "Smokey Robinson".
Mark M

Message: 35319 Posted: Tue Aug 31 15:33:16 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Time Machine-"O.T."

Sergio (or anyone else intrested) :)
I remember being in 6th grade, for a few days none of the girls in my class were comming outside for recess....because they were all inside, sitting on the floor doing some kinda swaying thing to the song "Down in the Boondocks". Was that "Billy Jo Royle" or something like that? Anyway that was a long time ago back in music history !! And I was there to wittness it ! lol
Mark M

Message: 35318 Posted: Tue Aug 31 14:24:58 2004 By: Nina
Subject: Re: OT-My Mom

Robyn...My deepest sympathy on the loss of your mother. My thoughts are with you and family on this sad day.

Message: 35317 Posted: Tue Aug 31 14:02:25 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom

Robyn, I am so sorry for your loss. I will keep you and your family in my prayers.

Message: 35316 Posted: Tue Aug 31 13:47:42 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom

My mom passed away in her sleep on Sunday. Surrounded by her family. THe "Homecoming" album alwaysletes me remember that I had a really cool mom, as hse bought it for me for Christams.

I will not be in the chat room this week, I hope to be home by the weekend.

Hug your mom, or someone you love for me.

Message: 35315 Posted: Tue Aug 31 11:16:12 2004 By: rc
Subject: Re: America ... Those going to Cleveland Shows

oops meant labor day weekend. They are playing Sunday the 5th not Monday.
2 shows 4pm and 9:30pm.

Message: 35314 Posted: Tue Aug 31 11:09:44 2004 By: rc
Subject: America ... Those going to Cleveland Shows

Hope those who are planning on attending the concerts on Labor Day have a great time, enjoy the show/shows(both if you're going be there for awhile) and the food!
I'll be there in spirit as I won't be attending. Something more important and special going on that weekend and wouldn't miss it for the world!
But I hope you have a great time.. Weather is supposed to be good too.

Robin C.

Message: 35313 Posted: Tue Aug 31 11:04:50 2004 By: rc
Subject: OT: Fogelberg PBS Soundstage... Finally!!

Hi everyone,
I said I would let you know when this was to be aired. I received my program guide for my PBS station and it is slated to air Sat. Sept 11 at 9pm (est) and encored Sun. Sept 12 at midnight. Make sure to check your local PBS listings for times and dates in your area. Should be the same.
It's only an hour though :-(
But get your VCR ready!!

Take Care,
Robin C.

Message: 35312 Posted: Tue Aug 31 10:57:04 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Today's The Day

Today is the last day of August.


Message: 35311 Posted: Tue Aug 31 09:52:36 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: "My Sweet Lord" further trivia "O.T."

<<28 years ago - George Harrison is found guilty of "subconscious plagiarism" of the Chiffons hit "He's So Fine" in his "My Sweet Lord." (1976)>>
<<This event inspired Harrison to write and record his hit "This Song.">>

In an interesting twist, the Chiffons went on to record their own version of "My Sweet Lord" after the lawsuit had been settled. It would be interesting to hear what that sounded like...

Message: 35310 Posted: Tue Aug 31 07:57:24 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Bits of Wisdom

28 years ago - George Harrison is found guilty of "subconscious plagiarism" of the Chiffons hit "He's So Fine" in his "My Sweet Lord." (1976)

This event inspired Harrison to write and record his hit "This Song."

This Song by George Harrison

This song has nothing tricky about it
This song ain’t black or white and as far as I know
Don’t infringe on anyone’s copyright, so . . .

This song we’ll let be
This song is in e
This song is for you and . . .

This tune has nothing bright about it
This tune ain’t bad or good and come ever what may
My expert tells me it’s okay

As this song came to me
Quite unknowingly
This song could be you could be . . .

This riff ain’t trying to win gold medals
This riff ain’t hip or square
Well done or rare
May end up one more weight to bear

But this song could well be
A reason to see - that
Without you there’s no point to . . . this song

Message: 35309 Posted: Tue Aug 31 07:51:08 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Time Machine-"O.T."

<<Can someone lend me a Time Machine?>>


Wish I could lend you one...Wish I had one myself! Unfortunately, no one has yet invented a contraption to physically transport us back in time...LOL I am glad I have a generous mind that can do it for me and likes time travel a lot. I consider myself very fortunate to remember the 50's, 60's and 70's with such clarity, it was a great time for music and I am glad that I was there to experience it. It also makes feel lucky and proud to have made it this far.:o)

<<I can remember having to order the new single "I Want To Hold Your Hand" by new group called The Beatles>>

Me too, I didn't get the 45, but my mom seeing all the rage (including mine) for the new mop top quartet went to Woolworth's and bought a brand new copy of "Meet the Beatles" for me, one that I still treasure today. In it are so many of the early classics. At school, I remember our teacher, who was rather hip for her day, would allow us for 30 minutes on Friday afternoons to play our favorite music and do the latest dances-the "Shake", the "Surf" and "Pony". Needless to say, my album was the hottest during that time slot at Southside Elementary in Miami and made me a very popular pre-teen. Oh how nice the memories...:o)

Message: 35308 Posted: Tue Aug 31 06:38:40 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Bits of Wisdom

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 31, 2004

59 years ago - Solo artist Van Morrison is born. (1945)

49 years ago - A London judge fines Sidney Adams Turner three pounds, ten shillings for, "creating an abominable noise." After threatening his neighbors by saying, "I will drive you mad." Turner played Bill Haley & the Comets' "Shake Rattle & Roll" as loud as possible from 2 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. (1955)

47 years ago - Squeeze singer/songwriter Glenn Tilbrook is born. (1957)

47 years ago - Go-Go's drummer Gina Schock is born. (1957)

41 years ago - The Ronettes single, "Be My Baby" enters the chart. (1963)

37 years ago - The Beatles announce they will handle their own affairs following the death of manager Brian Epstein. (1967)

36 years ago - Fleetwood Mac adds 18 year old Danny Kirwin to its guitar playing stable. Kirwin joins Peter Green and Jeremy Spencer. (1968)

36 years ago - Cream's "Fresh Cream" enters the LP chart. It contains the hit single, "Sunshine Of Your Love." (1968)

35 years ago - Bob Dylan makes his first paid appearance at England's Isle of Wight Pop Festival since his motorcycle accident three years earlier. He's backed by the Band and puts 38,000 pounds into his pocket following the one hour show. (1969)

33 years ago - A security guard is stabbed to death at a Who concert in Forest Hills, New York. (1971)

31 years ago - Paul McCartney receives a gold record for "Live and Let Die." (1973)

30 years ago - The Rolling Stones release "Goat's Head Soup." (1974)

30 years ago - In federal court, John Lennon testifies the Nixon administration tried to have him deported because of his involvement with the anti-war demonstrations at the 1972 Republican convention in Miami. (1974)

30 years ago - Carole King's "Jazzman" is released. (1974)

28 years ago - George Harrison is found guilty of "subconscious plagiarism" of the Chiffons hit "He's So Fine" in his "My Sweet Lord." (1976)

24 years ago - Pat Benatar's "Crimes Of Passion" LP enters the chart. The album features her signature song "Hit Me With Your Best Shot." (1980)

19 years ago - Bryan Adams' "Summer of '69" peaks at #5 on the pop singles chart while Billy Joel's "You're Only Human (Second Wind)" peaks at #9. (1985)

16 years ago - Actress Julianne Phillips files for divorce from Bruce Springsteen, citing irreconcilable differences. (1988)

16 years ago - Bob Seger and his wife Annette Sinclair file for divorce. (1988)

15 years ago - The Rolling Stones begin their first concert tour in eight years as they take "Steel Wheels" to JFK Stadium in Philadelphia. (1989)

6 years ago - In preparation for the opening of his internet service the next day, David Bowie holds a number of webcast performances featuring Ani DiFranco, the Specials, Jesus and Mary Chain, the Jay Hawks and Spacehog. (1998)


Today is one of those special days as Van (the Man) Morrison celebrates a B'day. I remember when he started back with the group THEM with a song called G-L-O-R-I-A. My lyrics salute some of Van's best:

Brown Eyed Girl/Wild Night/Moondance

Hey where did we go,
Days when the rains came
Down in the hollow,
Playin' a new game,
Laughing and a running hey, hey
Skipping and a jumping
In the misty morning fog with
Our hearts a thumpin' and you
My brown eyed girl,
You my brown eyed girl.

All the girls walk by
Dressed up for each other
And the boys do the boogie-woogie
On the corner of the street

Well, it's a marvelous night for a Moondance
With the stars up above in your eyes
A fantabulous night to make romance
'Neath the cover of October skies
And all the leaves on the trees are falling
To the sound of the breezes that blow
And I'm trying to please to the calling
Of your heart-strings that play soft and low
And all the night's magic seems to whisper and hush
And all the soft moonlight seems to shine in your blush


Bits of Wisdom

Love is grand;
divorce is a hundred grand.
I am in shape.
Round is a shape.
Time may be a great healer, but it's a lousy beautician.
Never be afraid to try something new.
Remember, amateurs built the ark, professionals built the Titanic.
Conscience is what hurts when everything else feels so good.
Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.
Even if you are on the right track,
you'll get run over if you just sit there.
Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be changed regularly and for the same reason.
An optimist thinks that this is the best possible world.
A pessimist fears that this is true.
There will always be death and taxes; however, death doesn't get worse every year.
In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday.
Dijon vu --
the same mustard as before.
I am a nutritional overachiever.
I am having an out of money experience.
I plan on living forever. So far, so good.
Practice safe eating --
always use condiments.
A day without sunshine is like ................night. :o)
If marriage were outlawed, only outlaws would have in-laws.
It's frustrating when you know all the answers,
but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.
The real art of conversation is not only to
say the right thing at the right time,
but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
Brain cells come and brain cells go, but fat cells live forever.
Age doesn't always bring wisdom.


Enjoy your day.......

Red Oak

Message: 35307 Posted: Tue Aug 31 05:05:12 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Evolution of singles

I have been reading some rock history stuff and I thought it was interesting how marketing singles evolved over the years. Today, singles are rare and almost an afterthought. But, before the 1980's the only way a song could make the charts was to release it as a single. In the 50's and 60's the selling 45 singles was the primary focus. In fact in 1956 RCA did not include any of Elvis Presley's hits on his first album because they thought it would hurt sales of the 45's. Even during the 60's it was not unusual for a hit single not to be included on an album. The Beatles had several hits that were not on an album while they were hits. They were later collected and released on the "Hey Jude" album. By the time the 70's had rolled around, the single was viewed primarily as a promotion tool to push album sales. Look at what happened to America's first album. It was recorded and released without "Horse With No Name". When Horse became a hit, the album was recalled and re-issued with the hit single included.

Message: 35306 Posted: Tue Aug 31 04:51:15 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: America's "shoulda been" double

Seems like in the 60's, radio stations were more likely to turn a single over and play a B-side, which helped both songs on a single to become hits. The Beatles had several double-sided hit singles. I don't recall any in the 70's. Seems that radio stations would only give the A-sides a chance. Here are some America singles that I think should have been double-sided hits:

Horse With No Name / Sandman - this was the US single. Sandman received a lot of airplay on FM stations that played album cuts.

Ventura Highway / Saturn Nights - a haunting song.

Don't Cross The River / Too Each His Own - One of my favorite songs on possibly America's best album. I remember it got a lot of airplay too.

Message: 35305 Posted: Tue Aug 31 04:39:42 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Steve Winwood

Hi everyone.

DanC: I can remember having to order the new single "I Want To Hold Your Hand" by new group called The Beatles, so don't worry about "Hey Jude" You're only kids. Can someone lend me a Time Machine?

red oak, Red when I saw 18 years for Steve Winwood's "Higher Love", I thought it can't be that long since I bought my first CD which was a Winwood album. Had a quick look and it was the 1990 "Refugees Of The Heart" with the song "One And Only Man". Then again I was only 4 years out. If you're a Steve Winwood fan like me, "Chronicles" CD is excellent - "Higher Love", "Arc Of A Diver", "While You See A Chance", "Valerie" etc. Actually I can remember sponging off Dad to buy "Keep On Running" - Spencer David Group

Hi Moser, great Don Henley story, I was down at my local tonight and all they were playing was Eagles. Drinking and listening to The Eagles, Hey Lord I'm still alive. I don't know if you have heard this song but one of my favourite Henley duets is with Joni Mitchell called "Snakes and Ladders" from the 1988 "Chalk Mark In Rain Storm" CD? 1 April,1968 I joined the New South Wales Police Force and stayed until I retired, truely it only seems like yesterday. Good times and sad times. That's Life!

Jenna: I got a few DVDs from Amazon America because you can't get them In Australia. All I did was change Region 1 to Region 4 in my computer and I can view them. Apparently? you can get Region O which is adaptible to all areas. Someone told me the other day that new DVDs can be changed auto to different regions. I honestly don't know, I can only assume that this bloke knows what he is talking about. The one thing with my Dell computer, it only allows you to change the region areas 3 times. I pick up my pre-ordered DVD next week, I can only assume from what I have read on this site that it must only be Region 4 compatible. Let you know.

Regards Bluey.

Message: 35304 Posted: Mon Aug 30 21:39:06 2004 By: TZ MAC
Subject: Re: Anyone? Anyone?

Bueller? ....... Bueller? .......... Bueller?

Message: 35303 Posted: Mon Aug 30 19:38:35 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Remarriage

Thanks Mo, I'm feeling better already...Na NaNa NaNaNa Na....DanC

Message: 35302 Posted: Mon Aug 30 18:25:03 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Remarriage

'68--I started Kindergarten. We got our first color TV which my Dad earned as a bonus at his job. It was a 'floor set.' I remember the TV being delivered just as the bus came to pick me up (after I waited all morning for it) and I wouldn't get to see it until I got home from school.
I got to be one of the Indians in the class circus.
I got in trouble for sticking my pencil in the ear of the little boy who sat next to me. What they didn't know is, I was just trying to clean his ears for him...well he clearly didn't do it for himself.

What makes me feel old is that means Julian Lennon has got to be close to 40 or more by now. Oui.

At least when you guys were teenagers, the new bands were the likes of America and The Eagles or better yet, The Beatles. When I was a teenager, the new bands were Devo and The Vapors. Now who's depressed?

Cheer up, DanC.

Message: 35301 Posted: Mon Aug 30 18:04:22 2004 By: red oak
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Remarriage

Now Dan, '68 was a very good year. I bought my first car that year, a 1968 Ford Torino GT Fastback, white with blue stripes. I still have that car today and it's still a beauty. Thanks for reading and let's not get down on some of them old historical facts. Remember, we aren't getting older, we are getting better.


Message: 35300 Posted: Mon Aug 30 17:58:00 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Remarriage

hey red, I always read your post on history ect. and usually find them interesting and or amusing. but for some reason this one depressed me. Hey Jude released 36 years ago; seeing that in type just made me feel old as hell. Keep em coming , they all don't hit me that way.DanC.

Message: 35299 Posted: Mon Aug 30 17:08:17 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Anyone? & Henley for Red (And Bones)

Hideee hooo there Mo ~~ Nope no problems here getting into the site! ~I was just checking out Jeff Larson's recently added song clips! ~ Maybe there was someone else signing in there when you were!

Thanks alot for the review of the Henley show! ~ I was wonderin aloud at livechat last night, saying isn't this the day Mo was heading to see Don Henley! ~~I love his song "Boys of Summer" as well as "End of The Innocence" and "New York Minute", I bet it was sooooo neat enjoying the time, keeps tickin, tickin away, listening to all of His great songs! ~Wow, what a summer of shows this has been for you! ~~ That is too much him singing "Everyone Rules the World" ~~Red you will have to take an extra listen to him singing this song next month, sooooo you can satisfy my curious mind about how he sings this song! :)

Hey there Red ~~ I too Loved your joke today! 22222much! :)

Thanks SteveL~ For letting us know about these added songclips on Jeff L's site... I am gonna give them a couple more replays here!

Well gotta get, tomorrow is picture day at school and I have to fix my daughters hair, not enough time in the morning to do this!

Take care everyone, seee ya, Nancy :)

~~I thought I saw your face in Lonely sky, on a Lonesome Cloud that was floating by, Wish I could trade it all for your loving arms and a Moonlight Kiss ~~ Sing it Baps Kennedy ~~This song is from the Movie SERENDIPITY and I saw an advertisement on tv yesterday saying it was gonna be coming on TBS soon, sooooo If there is anyone out there that hasn't seen this Movie, I say BeSure and Check it out, I sure have watched it over and over... It is one Fun Lovin, Romantic Movie! :)

Heyyy Hoooo Jimmmmmmbob~ Dewey is here singing that very lyric line from "One Morning" that you mentioned in your post, that is quite the Interesting Question you mentioned about this! :)

Message: 35298 Posted: Mon Aug 30 16:33:49 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Anyone? Anyone?

Is anyone else having trouble accessing the Ventura Highway message board? Or, perhaps it is just my fickle computer. Let's hope not. Anyone? Anyone?

Message: 35297 Posted: Mon Aug 30 12:07:11 2004 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Henley For Red (And Bones)

Tx for the report on the Henley show. Glad to hear the voice was strong. Will need to be for the upcoming trip to Australia, Japan & other points of interest. Stuart Smith played the 12-string with Henley. He also plays with the Eagles on their shows. Thanks for the song list, I will use that as a guide when I see him next month.
Take care and good job of reporting.


Message: 35296 Posted: Mon Aug 30 11:55:06 2004 By: Moser
Subject: One Other Thing

One other thing that I forgot to mention, Mr. Henley said they had trouble getting to the show because the night before (coming from Long Island) they'd been in an accident. Someone who 'had one too many' crashed into their bus at about 40 or 50 miles an hour. Fortunately, no one was hurt but the bus was useless so they had to 'get creative at midnight.'

Message: 35295 Posted: Mon Aug 30 11:46:37 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Henley For Red (And Bones)

Red Oak:
Loved your remarriage joke today.

Here's my Henley report for you. I took photos but haven't downloaded them yet. I was in the center but in the grandstand, so pretty far away for good shots. The sound was great--clear enough to hear the spoken vocals nice and clear.
The setlist as well as I can remember was something like this:
Dirty Laundry
Everything Is Different Now
[Mr. Henley told a long story about Joe and his one of a kind spot on Sunset Blvd., which featured great burgers with Velveeta cheese on them. Also made a joke about a remake of the Sunset Blvd. movie with Sharon Stone as Norma Desmond. He commented that he would pay for that.]
Sunset Grill
Everything I Know [Hopefully right title, just guessing.]
[Told long story here of writing this next song mentioning Zelda Fitzgerald, some woman named Pam, had a high fever, some guy named Glenn just moved in with him, they were thinking of starting a band, yada yada yada. Not sure of all the details here.]
Witchy Woman
Drinking Alone [Again, not sure of title here, nor if I have this in the correct place in the setlist. Said he wrote it with Sam of Sam & Dave.???]
New York Minute
Last Worthless Evening
Forgiveness [Not sure of title nor spot in setlist.]
Boys of Summer
All She Wants To Do Is Dance
Life In The Fast Lane

Encore 1:
End Of The Innocence
I Will Not Go Down (fall down, ??) [Not sure of title here. Had a SCREAMING guitar solo in it by a guy who looked like Lindsay Buckingham, at least from my seat!!]

Encore 2:
Hotel California [Crowd went nuts.]
[Introduced band here.]
[Fair fireworks started during this song. Kind of cool.]
Everybody Wants To Rule The World
[Odd choice as last song, I thought, since it's not his. A political message perhaps??]
[Bones, that was the part that reminded me of you.]

Show time: One hour 50 minutes

Great show. Right on the money. Voice sounds awesome. Certainly way worth the $40 ticket. He wore a flannel shirt. Didn't expect that. Doubt it is from Wal-Mart. Band is excellent. Had a black grand piano. Hotel California opening done with a white, double-necked guitar. Guess who I thought of? One guess....

Message: 35294 Posted: Mon Aug 30 11:07:58 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: Live at the Sydney Opera House

What exactly does Format 4 mean? I'm sorry to say I'm pretty technology challenged. Would the US or Canada be Format 1 or 2? Hope the US isn't the last area or region where it's released. Back to racking my brain too. Thanks in advance for any info.


Message: 35293 Posted: Mon Aug 30 06:24:14 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Remarriage

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 30, 2004

69 years ago - John Phillips, guitarist and vocals for the Mama's & Papa's, is born. (1935)

45 years ago - Bobby Darin's "Mack the Knife" debuts on the pop charts. The song from the "Three Penny Opera" will be Darin's biggest hit. (1959)

36 years ago - The Beatles' "Hey Jude" is released. (1968)

35 years ago - The 3-day Texas International Pop Festival opens at the Dallas International Motor Speedway. Performers included Chicago Transit Authority, Janis Joplin, Led Zeppelin and Santana. (1969)

32 years ago - John Lennon and Yoko Ono play their "One To One" concert at New York's Madison Square Garden. It was to benefit retarded children. They were joined by Stevie Wonder and Roberta Flack to sing "Give Peace A Chance" during the finale. (1972)

31 years ago - After two so-so albums, the post Jim Morrison Doors have parted. Rolling Stone reports Ray Manzarek is back in L.A. putting a new group together. (1973)

29 years ago - James Taylor's "How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You)" peaks at #5 on the pop singles chart. (1975)

24 years ago - Pat Benatar's "You Better Run" peaks at #42 on the pop singles chart. (1980)

24 years ago - Roger Daltry's "McVicar" soundtrack album enters the chart. (1980)

24 years ago - Cher makes one of her unannounced visits. This time it's as lead singer with Black Rose, the band led by her former love, guitarist Les Dudek. It happens at a show in New York's Central Park. (1980)

23 years ago - The Rolling Stones release their "Tattoo You" LP. The album would go on to top the LP chart for 9 weeks and has sold over 3 million copies. (1981)

18 years ago - Steve Winwood's "Higher Love" hits #1 on the singles chart; Mick Jagger's "Ruthless People" peaks at #51 and David Lee Roth's "Yankee Rose" peaks at #16. (1986)

15 years ago - Then Guns 'n' Roses guitarist Izzy Stradlin is arrested for creating a disturbance on an airline flight. (1989)

11 years ago - Billy Joel is the first musical guest on CBS-TV's "The Late Show with David Letterman." (1993)

9 years ago - James Taylor and ex-wife Carly Simon reunite for their first concert together in 16 years on Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts. (1995)


The Mamas & The Papas

John and Mitchy were gettin' kind of itchy
Just to leave the folk music behind
Zal and Denny workin' for a penny
Tryin' to get a fish on the line
In a coffee house Sebastian sat
And after every number they'd pass the hat
McGuinn and McGuire just a-gettin' higher
In L.A., you know where that's at
And no one's gettin' fat except Mama Cass

Zally said "Denny, you know there aren't many"
"Who can sing a song the way that you do, let's go south"
Denny said "Zally, golly, don't you think that I wish"
"I could play guitar like you"
Zal, Denny and Sebastian sat (at the Night Owl)
And after every number they'd pass the hat
McGuinn and McGuire still a-gettin higher
In L.A., you know where that's at
And no one's gettin' fat except Mama Cass

When Cass was a sophomore, planned to go to Swarthmore
But she changed her mind one day
Standin' on the turnpike, thumb out to hitchhike
"Take me to New York right away"
When Denny met Cass he gave her love bumps
Called John and Zal and that was the Mugwumps
McGuinn and McGuire couldn't get no higher
But that's what they were aimin' at
And no one's gettin' fat except Mama Cass

Mugwumps, high jumps, low slumps, big bumps
Don't you work as hard as you play
Make up, break up, everything is shake up
Guess it had to be that way
Sebastian and Zal formed the Spoonful
Michelle, John, and Denny gettin' very tuneful
McGuinn and McGuire just a-catchin' fire
In L.A., you know where that's at
And everybody's gettin' fat except Mama Cass
Di-di-di-dit dit dit di-di-di-dit, who-o-oa

------ flute ------

Broke, busted, disgusted, agents can't be trusted
And Mitchy wants to go to the sea
Cass can't make it, she says we'll have to fake it
We knew she'd come eventually
Greasin' on American Express cards
It's low rent, but keeping out the heat's hard
Duffy's good vibrations and our imaginations
Can't go on indefinitely
And California dreamin' is becomin' a reality



WIFE: "What would you do if I died? Would you get married again?"
HUSBAND: "Definitely not!"
WIFE: "Why not - don't you like being married?"
HUSBAND: "Of course I do."
WIFE: "Then why wouldn't you remarry?"
HUSBAND: "Okay, I'd get married again."
WIFE: "You would? (with a hurtful look on her face)."
HUSBAND: (makes audible groan).
WIFE: "Would you sleep with her in our bed?"
HUSBAND: "Where else would we sleep?"
WIFE: "Would you replace my pictures with hers?"
HUSBAND: "That would seem like the proper thing to do."
WIFE: "Would you play golf with her?"
HUSBAND: "I guess so."
WIFE: "Would she use my golf clubs?"
HUSBAND: "No, she's left-handed."
WIFE: - - - silence - - -


Have a super Monday everyone.............

Red Oak

Message: 35292 Posted: Sun Aug 29 22:11:10 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Live at the Sydney Opera House

Sorry, but I just received word this version of the DVD is Format 4, playable in Australia, New Zealand, the Caribbean and Mexico. So unless you live there, you'll have to wait. Back to twiddling of thumbs . . .

Message: 35291 Posted: Sun Aug 29 21:29:26 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Live at the Sydney Opera House

One of our alert chat folder members passed along this link to purchase the new DVD from down under:

So if you can't wait for the release here, this is the place to get it. Thanks Kevin.

Message: 35290 Posted: Sun Aug 29 11:38:14 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Request Time

And so it begins . . . Nancy M., I totally agree with you about All My Life and Hell's On Fire. Hey, it doesn't hurt to ask.

Message: 35289 Posted: Sun Aug 29 11:30:31 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & ...Request Time

Hi Red!
Loved today's joke!
Pretty favorite Julia Roberts/Richard Gere movie. I love the song, too...
Gerry, Gerry, Gerry! I loved hearing All My Life at Turning Stone. How about it at the Birchmere? Give me goosebumps once more, please. I would also love to hear one day Till the Sun Comes Up Again...great song from Homecoming.
Dewey, Dewey, Dewey, how about Hell's on Fire? Come on, let's rock at the Birchmere! Only 33 days to go...34 for me, I'll see you guys on Saturday!

Message: 35288 Posted: Sun Aug 29 11:14:42 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: California Dreamin' - the REAL Answer!

I visited numerous websites on the internet late last night regarding The Mamas and The Papas. So many that I can't remember which one specifically mentioned Michelle Phillips talking about "California Dreamin'". Anyway, according to Michelle, she wanted very much to visit St. Patrick's Cathedral in NYC since she had never been before. That visit by her and John, she said, was the inspiration for California Dreamin's lyric "stopped into a church".

I was also thinking a lot about the TV show that I saw that featured either John or Michelle Phillips talking about "California Dreamin'". After giving it much thought, I feel certain that it was Michelle and it was a show about her. I believe it was a biography story on one of those programs such as "E! True Hollywood Story" or "A&E's Biography". Whichever, Michelle's specific mention of the song being originally written as "I began to pray" and then being changed to "I pretend to pray" to better suit the musically hip folks (whoever they were) makes perfect sense to me.

Regarding Bruce's meeting John Phillips himself and speaking specifically and him saying, "Yeah, we had to [pretend to pray]", I just think it was easier for Phillips to merely say, "yeah", than to explain that the whole song was merely a story and not necessarily a true event down to the smallest detail.

After all, when you really think about it, why would there be two versions of that lyric? Michelle Phillips' explanation sounds logical to me.

Message: 35287 Posted: Sun Aug 29 10:55:56 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Rolling stones at the Imax

I went to the local "Imax" theater last night and saw "The Rolling Stones concert". Mick and the boys on a 60' screen ! A lot of shots from the stage...made it feel like you were right on stage. Very cool !
Ok Imax, how about a 60' "America show"?
Mark M

Message: 35286 Posted: Sun Aug 29 08:29:47 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics &

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 29, 2004

46 years ago - Alan Freed's "Big Beat Show" opens at the Fox Theatre in Brooklyn. The usual venue, The Paramount, is vacated because management didn't like the fact there was a riot after Freed's Boston concert. The opener in Brooklyn brought in $200,000 and those performing included Frankie Avalon, Jimmy Clanton, Bobby Freeman, the Elegants, Bill Haley & the Comets and Chuck Berry. (1958)

46 years ago - John Lennon and Paul McCartney of a Liverpool band called the Quarrymen, welcome George Harrison to the group. (1958)

40 years ago - Billboard reports guitar sales in both the U.S. and U.K., in the wake of the British Invasion, have hit their peak since 1957, when Elvis Presley sparked a boom. (1964)

40 years ago - Rob Orbison's "Oh, Pretty Woman" is released. (1964)

38 years ago - The Beatles perform their last public concert. It's in front of 25,000 faithful at Candlestick Park in San Francisco. The boys played 11 songs in just over a half an hour, opening with "Rock & Roll Music" and closing with "Long Tall Sally." The show is filmed by Beatles press officer Tony Barrow, though the film is never released. (1966)

35 years ago - Musician Me'shell Ndegeocello is born. (1969)

34 years ago - The Kinks' "Lola" is released. (1970)

34 years ago - Edwin Starr's "War" hits #1 on the pop singles chart. (1970)

34 years ago - Eric Clapton's self-titled debut solo album peaks at #13 on the LP charts. (1970)

28 years ago - Jimmy Reed, the "Big Boss Man" of the blues, who was a major influence on Pete Townshend, the Rolling Stones and others dies in San Francisco. He was 50. (1976)

28 years ago - At a reunion concert of the original Spirit in Santa Monica, California, Neil Young joins the band on stage during their encore rendition of Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone." Bass player Mark Andes requested Young to come up on stage but guitarist Randy California objects to his presence and pushes him away. The song is completed when the misunderstanding is cleared up. (1976)

28 years ago - Jimmy Reed, the "Big Boss Man" dies. (1976)

27 years ago - 3 people are arrested in Memphis after trying to steal Elvis' body. As a result of that incident, the King's body is moved to Graceland. (1977)

23 years ago - The Pretenders "II" LP enters the chart. (1981)

23 years ago - The soundtrack to the film, "Heavy Metal" enters the album charts. The LP features tracks by Stevie Nicks, Cheap Trick, Devo and Sammy Hagar. (1981)

17 years ago - An American liquor company reports a 200% sales increase of its Brass Monkey cocktail mix, thanks to the Beastie Boys hit, "Brass Monkey." (1987)

17 years ago - Los Lobos' remake of Ritchie Valens' 1959 classic, "La Bamba" hits #1 on the pop singles chart. (1987)

17 years ago - The soundtrack to the Kiefer Sutherland vampire movie "The Lost Boys" enters the album chart. It features songs by INXS and Roger Daltrey. (1987)

14 years ago - Elton John checks into a rehab center in Chicago for bulimia, drinking and drugs. (1990)

13 years ago - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers begin their U.S. tour in Denver. (1991)

12 years ago - Billy Joel's remake of Elvis' "All Shook Up" peaks at #92 on the pop singles chart. The song was from the soundtrack of the film "Honeymoon In Vegas." (1992)

12 years ago - Guns'n'Roses "November Rain" peaks at #3 on the pop singles chart. (1992)

8 years ago - Issac Hayes, who co-wrote the Stax classic "Soul Man," sends a protest letter to presidential candidate Bob Dole requesting Dole to stop using his song, which his supporters had changed to "I'm A Dole Man." (1996)


Oh, Pretty Woman
Roy Orbison
Words and Music by Roy Orbison and Bill Dees

- Peak Billboard position # 1 in 1964

Pretty woman, walkin' down the street
Pretty woman the kind I like to meet
Pretty woman I don't believe you, you're not the truth
No one could look as good as you---mercy

Pretty woman won't you pardon me
Pretty woman I couldn't help but see
Pretty woman that you look lovely as can be
Are you lonely just like me---

Pretty woman stop awhile
Pretty woman talk awhile
Pretty woman give your smile to me
Pretty woman yeah, yeah, yeah
Pretty woman look my way
Pretty woman say you'll stay with me-ee
Cuz I need you, I'll treat you right
Come with me baby, be mine toni-i-ght

Pretty woman don't walk on by
Pretty woman don't make me cry
Pretty woman don't walk away, hey----OK
If that's the way it must be---OK
I guess I'll go on home, it's late
There'll be tomorrow night, but wait
What do I see?
Is she walkin' back to me?
Yeah, she's walkin' back to me
Oh, oh, pretty woman


A couple goes on vacation to a fishing resort in northern Minnesota. The husband likes to fish at the crack of dawn. The wife likes to read. One morning the husband returns after several hours of fishing and decides to take a nap. Although not familiar with the lake, the wife decides to take the boat out. She motors out a short distance, anchors, and starts to read her book. Along comes a game warden in his boat. He pulls up alongside the woman and says, "Good morning Ma'am. What are you doing?"

"Reading a book," she replies, (thinking "Isn't it obvious?")

"You're in a restricted fishing area," he informs her.

"I'm sorry officer, but I'm not fishing, I'm reading."
"Yes, but you have all the equipment. For all I know you could
start at any moment. I'll have to take you in and write you up."
"If you do that, I'll have to charge you with sexual assault," says
the woman.

"But I haven't even touched you," says the game warden.

"That's true, but you have all the equipment. For all I know you
could start at any moment."

"Have a nice day ma'am," and he left.

MORAL: Never argue with a woman who reads. It's likely she can
also think.


Have a lazy Sunday.......

Red Oak

Message: 35285 Posted: Sun Aug 29 08:15:07 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: AMERICA Bio _Super 70's & Henry Diltz/David Cassidy &

Guten Morgen to you to Mo & Everyone! :) Boy Mo you are very observant this Sunday morning! I too had this Partridge Family special on VH1. I have to admit tho, I was listening to them, more than paying attention to the screen.. I am running around like a Chicken with my head cut off this morning... LOL! ~~ Hmmm this was the 2nd time that I caught the tailend of this Partridge show special, third time around I will be sure and watch out for Henry Diltz, pretty neat, that he was their photographer too. ~Wow just the mention of him brings a nice Gallery of Pics to My Mind View! : )

Poco is here singing "Crazy Love" on my Sirius MovinEZ channel ~~~ I count the stars in the summer sky that fall till their out of sight, and then I pretend that you are here.... I love song ~Timothy B is singing on this right Bones???? :) Hey on the 70's channel here Paul McCartney is singing "Another Day" ~Wow I haven't heard this song for awhile... Yep I am here channel surfing! ~~I also heard Eric Clapton's "The Crow Song" that is a rare one, for sure! ~~ I got the goose bumps now, cause on now is a really nice oldie, The Fifth Demension is here singing "One Less Bell To Answer" such a great song! :)

Hi there AMGirl & Joe B ~~ Nice hearing from the both of you! I just gotta give a Big Thumbs Up on Joe's AMERICA Bio-Feedback segment, I really enjoyed hearing it, such a Great Exposure for our guys! ~ Thanks for sharing this with us AMGirl,I checked it out of friday and had wanted to post on here about it, but my weekend has been a Busy One sooo far! ~ Thanks Joe for telling us about your Super 70's show being available on the net now, I will have to check it out real soon! :)

Hmmm ~ I Enjoyed reading all of the Posts this weekend~ Boy it's sure been Boomin here! ~~I heard the "Mama's & Papa's" singing "Calif Dreamin" a couple times at the Pittsburgh Zoo aw we were walking around, they must have one of those in House Radio networks that play the same songs over again! ~ Thanks Bruce for sharing this Nice Memory Lane Moment with us, that is sooo Neat you got to talk with John P about this lyric line. I too always wondered why they sang it as 'pretend to pray' :)

Well we had the Last Family Get together picnic for the summer, it was with my Hubby's family and we always have it at this place called "Spring Lake" it is like getting away to a little piece of Heaven! ~ It was such a Nice day, even tho it was hot & humid, it wasn't that noticeable there, we got to go swimming,(we all were smiling cause of this, this summer has allowed days for that too often), lots of sharing the gift of gab and good food too! ~~Yeppers Red ~ we had a Nice time! ~~ Did ya happen to catch a glimpse of the Ooooh soooo Nice Mr Full Moon last night, he accompanied us the whole way home! I loved that for sure! ~~ We listed to Hourglass and Van Go Gan to and back! ~~I told my hubby, that I would love to hear Dewey sing "Garden Of Peace" at a show one day! Sleepertrain was playing at the exact time ~ Our view from the windshield was the pink and yellow sky one, that Dewey sings about in this great Highway song! :)

One more thing Red ~~ You sure had me Smiling ~ I Love the Association's song "Cherish" ~~ & Yeppers "Sign, Sign, everywhere Signs" ~~ Be sure and read them all! ;)

Hi Tommiegirl :) ~~ Thanks for coming and letting us know about your neighbor's new baby boy! ~~Wow she sure had quite the drawn outtime! I am sure all that has left her mind now, has she holds her new little bundle of Joy! Isn't it Awesome how they work their Magic that way! ~ Just yesterday at our reunion, our Uncle's friend had come in with him, and he had a digital camera, when he was showing me how it worked, he showed me some pics he took at his son's graduation from the Military Academy out there in Seattle. Wow it is sure beautiful out there, he also captured "Mt Ranier" in alot of his pics... I sooo Hope to get to take in this Magic one day! ~~Just wondering here, are you close to this part of Seattle? :)

Thanks Steve L ~ For letting us know that Jeff L has some new song clips up, I will be sure and check them out! I was hitting the replay button on my Sepia CD this week, as I was getting more things packed up to move to my new office.

Gotta get now, have a great day all! See ya tonight I hope ~ Nancy :)

Hey there Robyn ~~ Warren Zevon is here singing "Tenderness on the Block" ~~Wow ~ I have never heard this song of his! :) I Hope all is going well for you!

~~~~ It's Your Move, I've played all of mine, time is running out, make a move, or we can't go on, till you understand it's all in your hands, Your Move ~~ Sing it Gerry & Dewey :) :) :)

Message: 35284 Posted: Sun Aug 29 07:14:11 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Henry Diltz/David Cassidy

Guten Morgen.
I just caught the last 5 minutes of a show on VH1 called "When The Partridge Family Ruled The World." The usual suspects were featured talking about the whole phenomenon regarding the popularity of the show and particularly David Cassidy. Then, there was this somewhat familiar, certainly less recognizable face on the screen talking about how David would leave the set each weekend to go play shows all over the country then return on Sunday night to start back on the series for another week. I had to think for a second but I knew I knew this face. It was Henry Diltz. His name was not on the screen the first time I saw him but when he appeared again following a commercial, sure enough his name was there, "Henry Diltz, Cassidy's Photographer."
Is that 2 degrees of America? Or, maybe it's 2 x 2 degrees of America since both Diltz and Cassidy each have connections to the guys.
When do the live shows restart??!!

Message: 35283 Posted: Sun Aug 29 06:31:19 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Listening Party - Your Move

Tonight's listening party will feature Your Move, 10PM EDT, 7PM PDT. Hope you can be there!

Message: 35282 Posted: Sun Aug 29 05:01:26 2004 By: AmericanGirl
Subject: Audio: America Bio on Super Groovy 70's

Joe B.'s Super Groovy 70's recently aired an excellent "Bio-Feedback" segment on America. In "Bio-Feedback", a brief biography is given and then songs from the artist played. The audio is posted on the show's Fan site so you can listen.

Go to show's fan website and then click the link under "Featured Super Groovy 70's Sound Clip". The URL:

Message: 35281 Posted: Sat Aug 28 21:16:35 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Memory Lane

SteveL: Steve I have a few Oz memorabilia if you want them. If so can you let me know where to send same. Just my way of saying thanks.

Message: 35280 Posted: Sat Aug 28 17:52:10 2004 By: TommieGirl
Subject: Re: Sorry...& what Gerry wore...

Hi Nancy!

My friend had contractions for two days - they never went away or progressed - and on Friday her doctors said, "Enough," and she was delivered by c-section. She's doing great - exhausted of course - and her little guy is the cutest!

And I loved the Atlantic City pics. You look so happy!

Message: 35279 Posted: Sat Aug 28 17:25:38 2004 By: TommieGirl
Subject: Re: California Dreamin' - the REAL Answer!

Apparently, John Phillips wrote the song in the middle of the night and woke Michelle up to write it down for him. When she complained that she didn't want to get up, he said something to the effect of, "I'll give you half of it, just please help me out here!" So she got writer's credit for the song. Unreal.

Bruce - it must have been grand to meet Papa John! SO talented... I love his songs so much.

Message: 35278 Posted: Sat Aug 28 17:12:43 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: The Doors "Legacy" (for Mark)

Hi Sheldon
Now I have listend to both disc's....and totaly agree. Excellent!
I have the old double disc "BEST OF THE DOORS" but the newer set is so much more complete. Updating it was a good move. Now I can sell the other one.
There have been some people on this site that have seen "The Doors" concert that you are talking about. unfortunetly, I am not one of them.
Mark M

Message: 35277 Posted: Sat Aug 28 16:38:34 2004 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: California Dreamin' - the REAL Answer!

OK folks here's the deal-- in 1990 I had the pleasure of spending 10 minutes with John Phillips- just him & me in a dressing room. For the curious, I worked at WWOR-TV where he was about to appear on "The Howard Stern Show". John Phillips has always been one of my favorite writers, and The Mamas & Papas just killed with those great songs and harmonies! Knowing that the song was based on actual events that occurred right here in Greenwich Village, I asked John "Did you really have to "pretend to pray" when you went in that church to escape the cold?" He said "Yeah, we HAD too!" So yes, from the HORSES MOUTH (had to get that in) it's "pretend to pray"! As far as Michelle's name being listed as co-writer, it's a crime, because she certainly didn't contribute much at all.

Message: 35276 Posted: Sat Aug 28 15:57:51 2004 By: Sheldon
Subject: The Doors "Legacy" (for Mark)

Hi Mark -- I also recently purchased The Doors "Legacy" compilation and have listened to the whole thing (2 cd's) more than once, it's excellent! I'd love to see a concert by the current "Doors Of The 21st Century". Even though Jim Morrison is no longer with us & John Densmore is not participating, 2 Doors are better than none (in my opinion, anyway).


Message: 35275 Posted: Sat Aug 28 15:53:27 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: Just Some Trivia

Yes, MarkM, that is from Jaws when Roy Scheider is throwing the chum into the water. Just saw it again on tv last night. Love that line and the look on his face!

Message: 35274 Posted: Sat Aug 28 15:46:00 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: Sorry...& what Gerry wore...

TommieGirl, Tell your friend congratulations on the birth of her baby boy! Was she actually in labor this long?!
My 1st America concert was Feb. 11, 1973 at the Felt Forum in New York City. Gerry wore a dark sweater with very patched-up jeans. I posted that photo in the Atlantic City album on:
I would love to post it on, but they don't have a listing for that date! (Guess that date's just a bit too far back in time...)

Message: 35273 Posted: Sat Aug 28 15:22:57 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Re: Crucifix

SteveL: Thanks Steve, looking at that cover just took me back. Unfortunately about 20 odd years ago my house was broken into and they took my LP collection including singles, which included that EP. Actually, it was bit funny because when I went into the music store to re-order my America LPs. (couldn't get the EP or singles) The woman asked me what one's I wanted and I said, "the lot"......then comes along the sadist who invented CDs, back to the music store. Thanks mate.


Message: 35272 Posted: Sat Aug 28 13:18:24 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Lyrics Question (California Dreamin')

Another part of that song that I misheard is "oh the preacher likes the cold".
I always thought it was "you know the preacher like the coast, he knows I'm gonna stay".
Mark M

Message: 35271 Posted: Sat Aug 28 13:17:15 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: "Na,Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye"/ America's "shoulda been" double

Yes, Mark, I did attend the dance with The Band. It wasn't free, however. It was one of the more expensive dances to attend during the year, but well worth it. I think that "Up On Cripple Creek" was popular about that time. I know they played it during the dance.

Message: 35270 Posted: Sat Aug 28 13:11:49 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: "Na,Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye"/ America's "shoulda been" double

Did you attend the show with "The Band"?
Now, that would be a great show....even better when it's free!!
Mark M

Message: 35269 Posted: Sat Aug 28 13:08:08 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Levi Jackets

We do have some of the same musical intrests...products of the 70's.
I just bought the "new doors" compolation, "Legacy...the absolute best". I havn't heard the whole thing yet, but so far it's very good !
I never realized there were that many "America" songs with the word "underground". I am surprised it was the right guess on the first try??
Mark M

Message: 35268 Posted: Sat Aug 28 13:07:15 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Lyrics Question (California Dreamin')

Steve, I should have known the answer to this would be on your website somewhere, since just about everything America is!!!!!

Message: 35267 Posted: Sat Aug 28 11:15:44 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: New Soundclips On Jeff's Site

I was surfing Jeff Larson's web site and noticed that he has added some new soundclips. Click here for the links to listen to them. Great job Jeff!

Message: 35266 Posted: Sat Aug 28 11:10:15 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Lyrics Question (California Dreamin')

Here's a link to the "California Dreamin'" web page on the America Fans web site. As noted on that page, in the soundtrack version of this song, the words "I pretend to pray" were changed to "I began to pray". I believe that Dewey was given the choice of which words he wanted to use since they had both been used before.

Message: 35265 Posted: Sat Aug 28 11:02:30 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Crucifix

Talk about double sided A tracks, what about America's first release here in Oz. EP containing Horse, I Need You, Rainy Day and, I think, Riverside. SteveL - I tried to find the original cover on the site, couldn't get it. That's a four sided A track!

Click here to see the 4 sided A track on the America Fans web site.

Message: 35264 Posted: Sat Aug 28 10:58:50 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: "Na,Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye"/ America's "shoulda been" double

I grew up in southern California and every year our high school (Savanna H.S. in Anaheim) had a big dance called the Green Giant Dance. It always had a big name band play and students from all the high schools in the area were invited to attend. I can only remember two of the bands that came (my junior and senior years). One of them was The Band and the other was Steam. I remember that Steam played "... Kiss Him Goodbye" twice during the night because that's the song that everyone wanted to hear.

Message: 35263 Posted: Sat Aug 28 10:38:48 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Levi Jackets

Mark M ~ I live in the same community where I graduated high school which is Hobbs, New Mexico. Cool that we graduated the same year. Because of that, we are definitely on the same musical wavelength when it comes to remembering songs on the radio back then especially America's music. I, too, really only discovered America during "Homecoming" (which happened while literally being IN school as I mentioned in my bio).

Regarding Levi jackets, back in those days ours had only two pockets instead of the ones today that have four.

Concerning America songs with the word "underground" in its lyrics, there are 3 others that do as well: Monster, Horse and Inspector Mills.

(Bluey ~ Yeah those critics were good at pitting John against Paul back in those days after the Beatles breakup.)

Message: 35262 Posted: Sat Aug 28 10:19:21 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Lyrics Question (California Dreamin')

Anita ~ That is an excellent observation regarding "pretend to pray" versus "began to pray". You are absolutely right about how it's sung live versus the way it was recorded by D&G.

Here is why there's the two differences: According to either John or Michelle Phillips, "California Dreamin'" was ORIGINALLY written as "began to pray" but because they felt it wasn't a "cool" thing among the musically hip folks back in the 60s, they changed it to "pretend to pray". My recording has The Mamas and The Papas singing it as "pretend". I feel quite sure there's versions of both sung by The Mamas and The Papas. Apparently, Dewey and Gerry remember it being both ways.

Message: 35261 Posted: Sat Aug 28 09:54:16 2004 By: TommieGirl
Subject: Re: Lyrics Question

I noticed that, too, Anita. My understanding is that the soundtrack version says "began." I heard "pretend" when they did it live.

And I loved it either way. :)

Message: 35260 Posted: Sat Aug 28 09:48:51 2004 By: TommieGirl
Subject: Re: Sorry...

LOL I didn't mean to sound like I was complaining! At least it's a GOOD song! I've had some reeeeally annoying melodies stuck in my head before, so "Are You There" is a pleasure!

Have a great weekend!


Message: 35259 Posted: Sat Aug 28 08:10:12 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Lyrics Question

I had this debate with my exwife, from the "Mamas and Papas" version.
I believe it was "pretend" she hears it as "began". To quote Gerry "To each his own".
Mark M

Message: 35258 Posted: Sat Aug 28 08:02:26 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: "Na,Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye"/ America's "shoulda been" double hit

Thanks Sergio
It is a fun song to sing along with.
Mark M

Message: 35257 Posted: Sat Aug 28 07:59:31 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Sorry...

Tommie girl
Didn't mean to get the song stuck in your head...just love to play that one with the vol. up a bit higher !
It kinda has a "Joni Mitchell" style to it.
Mark M

Message: 35256 Posted: Sat Aug 28 07:53:36 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Levi Jackets

Levi jackets were very popular back than. I think I accully had it before the "Homecoming cover" I just didn't wear it that much. But, when I saw Gerry and Dan on the cover wearing them, I began to wear it.Wore it all day in school, never took it off unless I had to. I wore mine out too.I got rid of that long time ago, but have another one now...don't wear it to much. lol Maybe if Gerry and Dewey start wearing them again.....I might too?? :)
Anyway, I was a senior the same year as you. Graduated in 74'. Right here in Salt lake city. "Granite high". What city were you in at the time?
What year was "Homecoming" released? I am sure "America had at least 2 albums out before my brother bought "Homecoming". Thats when we both became fans. I still am...he is a "use to be".
Mark M

Message: 35255 Posted: Sat Aug 28 07:14:44 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Buffalo Theory

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 28, 2004

43 years ago - Motown's Tamla Records releases the Marvelettes first single, "Please Mr. Postman." The song will be a million seller and the groups biggest hit. (1961)

41 years ago - Peter, Paul & Mary performs, "Blowin' In The Wind" before Civil Rights marchers who had gathered in Washington to hear Martin Luther King Jr. speak. (1963)

40 years ago - The Beatles play the first of two concerts at New York's Forest Hills Tennis Stadium. 15,000 attend each performance and show their affection by tossing jellybeans, the bands favorite candy, onto the stage. The fans scream so loud, it's almost impossible to hear the music." It was also after this show that the Beatles met Bob Dylan, who reportedly introduces them to mariuana in a hote. (1964)

39 years ago - The Rolling Stones announce that Allen Klein, who they met three days ago, will co-manage the group along with Andrew Long Oldham. At the same time, they sign a five year recording deal with Decca Records. (1965)

39 years ago - The Beach Boys' "California Girls" peaks at #3 on the chart. (1965)

39 years ago - A Forest Hills, New York audience boos Bob Dylan for plugging in. (1965)

37 years ago - The Grateful Dead and Big Brother and the Holding Company play at the wake of a Hell's Angels member who was struck by a car in San Francisco. (1967)

36 years ago - The Doors "Hello, I Love You" sells a million copies. The song, which does not have the sinister qualities of the first million seller, "Light My Fire," marks the groups move into more of a mainstream rock sound. (1968)

35 years ago - Paul and Linda McCartney become parents to daughter Mary. (1969)

33 years ago - James Brown's tenth Number One R&B song, "Make it Funky," enters the R&B charts. It will reach #22 on the pop chart next month. (1971)

33 years ago - The Five Man Electrical Band's "Signs" peaks at #3 on the pop singles chart. (1971)

32 years ago - Procul Harem has a gold LP, "Live in Concert with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra." (1972)

32 years ago - David Bowie and the Spiders from Mars make their debut at Carnegie Hall in New York. Bowie gives the performance while he was sick with the flu. (1972)

31 years ago - Deep Purple's "Smoke On The Water" goes gold. (1973)

31 years ago - Bobby "Boris" Pickett's novelty tune, "Monster Mash" makes the charts for the third time. It was originally released and went to #1 in 1962. It hit the charts again in 1970 and remains a perennial halloween favorite. (1973)

28 years ago - Peter Frampton's "Baby, I Love Your Way" peaks at #12 on the pop singles chart. (1976)

26 years ago - Devo releases their "Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo" LP. It features a cover of the Rolling Stones classic "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction." (1978)

25 years ago - What a year it has been for Neil Young. He has two gold albums: "Decade," an earlier triple album best of set and "Rust Never Sleeps." (1979)

22 years ago - Marshall Crenshaw's "Someday Someway" peaks at #36 on the pop singles chart. (1982)

22 years ago - Elvis Costello's "Imperial Bedroom" enters the LP charts. (1982)

22 years ago - Men At Work's "Business As Usual" enters the album charts. The LP would eventually shoot up to #1, a position it would hold for 15 weeks! It also featured two #1 hits, "Who Can It Be Now?" and "Down Under." (1982)

18 years ago - Tina Turner is awarded a star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame. (1986)

18 years ago - Stevie Nicks, Mick Fleetwood and Neil Young perform in a show that's billed as, "Get Tough On Toxics" in Long Beach, California. The show also featured all of The Eagles except Glenn Frey, who was in the hospital with an intestinal disorder. (1986)

11 years ago - Billy Joel's "River Of Dreams" enters the Billboard LP chart at #1, where it would stay for 3 weeks. (1993)

11 years ago - James Taylor's "(Live)" LP enters the chart. (1993)

9 years ago - Oingo Boingo announce they will break up following a series of L.A. area Halloween shows. Band leader Danny Elfman went on to much success in scoring of films. (1995)


Five Man Electrical Band - Signs

And the sign said "Long-haired freaky people need not apply"
So I tucked my hair up under my hat and I went in to ask him why
He said "You look like a fine upstanding young man, I think you'll do"
So I took off my hat, I said "Imagine that. Huh! Me workin' for you!"

Sign, sign, everywhere a sign
Blockin' out the scenery, breakin' my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign?

And the sign said anybody caught trespassin' would be shot on sight
So I jumped on the fence and-a yelled at the house, "Hey! What gives you the right?"
"To put up a fence to keep me out or to keep mother nature in"
"If God was here he'd tell you to your face, Man, you're some kinda sinner"

Sign, sign, everywhere a sign
Blockin' out the scenery, breakin' my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign?

Now, hey you, mister, can't you read?
You've got to have a shirt and tie to get a seat
You can't even watch, no you can't eat
You ain't supposed to be here
The sign said you got to have a membership card to get inside

------ lead guitar ------

And the sign said, "Everybody welcome. Come in, kneel down and pray"
But when they passed around the plate at the end of it all, I didn't have a penny to pay
So I got me a pen and a paper and I made up my own little sign
I said, "Thank you, Lord, for thinkin' 'bout me. I'm alive and doin' fine."

Sign, sign, everywhere a sign
Blockin' out the scenery, breakin' my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign?

Sign, sign, everywhere a sign
Sign, sign


The Buffalo Theory

One afternoon at Cheers, Cliff Clavin was explaining the Buffalo Theory to his buddy Norm. Here's how it went: "Well ya see, Norm, it's like this... A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the group keeps regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers."


Have a nice picnic in the park today, Nancio!!!!!!!!

Red Oak

Message: 35254 Posted: Sat Aug 28 06:05:01 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Lyrics Question

The lyrics to California Dreamin contain the line:

"You know I got down on my knees, and I pretend to pray."

When I listen to disc 3 of Highway, am I the only one who thinks it sounds like Dewey is singing it this way?

"You know I got down on my knees, and I began to pray."

Just curious.

(When he sings it live, he clearly sings "pretend.")

Message: 35253 Posted: Sat Aug 28 03:59:46 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Crucifix

Hi everyone, to tell you the truth, when "Hearts" as released I got my wife to buy me a Christmas present = a gold crucifix, identical to the one Gerry wears on the front cover. My wife and I just thought it looked great although ,unfortunately, I'm better looking than the blonde one and it definitely looked better on me, particularly when I was in uniform.
I wouldn't lie to you girls. Trust me, I'm a retired cop!

Talk about double sided A tracks, what about America's first release here in Oz. EP containing Horse, I Need You, Rainy Day and, I think, Riverside. SteveL - I tried to find the original cover on the site, couldn't get it. That's a four sided A track!

Johnny, yeah mate I believe you, just thought I read it somewhere about John but then you know what the papers will print for a story. They were always trying to match off Paul and John about anything.


Message: 35252 Posted: Sat Aug 28 03:52:20 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: "Na,Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye"/ America's "shoulda been" double hit

Mark M,

"Na, Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye" was meant to be a B side when it was recorded, so the disc jockey that you heard was partially correct! However, it was released as an "A" side from the onset by the record company. This song is rather special to me given it was our high school anthem back in the 1969-1970 school year.:o)


Message: 35251 Posted: Sat Aug 28 00:16:45 2004 By: TommieGirl
Subject: Sorry...

Sorry I ran out so quickly on chat Wednesday! My friend (finally!) had her baby this afternoon, a little boy. Mother and baby are doing well, and the family sends their thanks for your good wishes!

Nettie, I didn't get the pic of your twins! Don't know what happened... maybe you could try and send it again?

The first time I saw America in concert, Gerry was decked out in slacks and a tight fitting long sleeved blue shirt. The second time he was wearing a pair of faded jeans and a green t-shirt... I don't know who's dressing him, but the guy can wear anything well.

Made a cry to the underground, are you there... I looked and saw that they were still around, do you care... that's going to be in my head all night now, I'm sure... great backup harmonies, great song!

See you on Wednesday!


Message: 35250 Posted: Fri Aug 27 22:45:30 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Levi Jackets

<<When I saw the cover of "Homecoming" I had to have a levi jacket. In my junior year....I don't think I ever took it off !!>>

Mark M ~ Same here! I wore my Levi jacket even after the edges started to come apart. That's how often I wore it. Levi jackets were VERY popular when I was a senior in high school. I wonder if it was a nationwide fad? It wasn't the same to have a Wrangler jacket; it had to be a Levi at my high school. I was a senior during the 1973-1974 school year. What school year were you a junior and in which city?

I still have my Levi jacket from high school! It fits a lot more snug now though.

Message: 35249 Posted: Fri Aug 27 21:25:54 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: "Silly Love Songs" & "One Morning"

Mark M, Bluey, and All ~ I may be absolutely wrong so please forgive me, but I don't think it was John Lennon who McCartney was answering with his song, "Silly Love Songs". From music news sources (television as well as radio and magazines), I had always thought it was McCartney's reply to the music critics who were very rough on him over his songwriting ability as a solo artist. Lennon, of course, was --with little doubt-- one of those critics, but I believe it was primarily aimed at the paid music critics. Can anyone else shed more light on this subject from what they remember when "Silly Love Songs" was released? SteveO, would you happen to remember?

Jimbob ~ That's a very interesting question you asked about Dewey's song, "One Morning"... whether it's about Dan's absence. If I remember correctly, someone asked Dewey that question. I believe he said the song was merely about taking a morning walk with no particular person in mind.

Message: 35248 Posted: Fri Aug 27 20:34:37 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Just Some Trivia

I am here !! "Are you there"...I think the song is so cool, I'm surprised no one has ever mentioned it?? HHHmmm?
Mark M

Message: 35247 Posted: Fri Aug 27 20:23:01 2004 By: Kade
Subject: Re: Just Some Trivia

Are You There!!

Message: 35246 Posted: Fri Aug 27 20:19:05 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Just Some Trivia

"JAWS" When the shark comes out of the water for the bait...I think?
You know what "America" song I love to listen to, but I have never heard mentioned on this site? Give you a has the word "underground" in it.
Mark M

Message: 35245 Posted: Fri Aug 27 20:16:02 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Shows Next Week

Live shows resume next week! If you attend, please submit a review either here or on Pictures would be great, too. I'd love to hear what everyone has to say!

Message: 35244 Posted: Fri Aug 27 20:13:15 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: "Na,Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye"/ America's "shoulda been" double hit

You seem to know a heck of a lot more about "NA NA HEY HEY KISS HIM GOODBYE" than I just wondering, was I right about it being a B side?
I just picked that up off the radio one night, like one of those late night 'Oldies" programs. It just seems to me that a DJ somewhere pushed it to become a hit?? Am I totaly off base on that, cause that is what I seem to recall?
Anyway, thanks for the info. :)
You are right about "America" I think. "Riverside" is a great song. As good as "I need you" "Horse with no name" or "Ventura highway". All early "America" classics.
Mark M

Message: 35243 Posted: Fri Aug 27 20:00:55 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Just Some Trivia

Nothing to do with America, but it's a classic movie line: "We're gonna need a bigger boat"...what movie?

Message: 35242 Posted: Fri Aug 27 18:48:48 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: "Na,Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye"/ America's "shoulda been" double hit

Mark M,

The other side of "Na,Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye" by Steam was "It's the Magic In You Girl". As the story goes, Gary deCarlo (Steam's drummer and former member of early 60's "no hit" Chateaus)while working at Mercury records, had recorded a few solo songs, all of which Mercury deemed suitable as "A" sides. A former member of the Chateaus dropped by the studio and suggested that Gary record an old ballad that they had recorded back in 1961, "Kiss Him Goodbye". An impromptu chorus of "Na Na Na's" was added for fun during the recording session, and unintentionally a HIT was created. When Mercury's subsidiary Fontana decided to release the record as an A side, no none wanted to take credit for it, and a mame for the "none group" was created- "Steam". The song weent on to sell over a million copies and became the unofficial anthem for the Chicago White Sox when it was reissued in 1976. Steam managed to release a second single "I've Gotta Make You Love Me" and it reached a respectable #46, but did not break into the Top 40...Relegating the non existent group to join the The One hit Wonder "Hall of Fame".

Getting back "On Topic", I have never understood how "I Need You" and "Riverside" did not become a two sided hit 45 back in 1972. AMERICA was so new and hip at the time, I think Warner's "missed the boat" on that one, I mean for not pushing both songs for airplay. It should have been a double sided hit! Riverside was played in then FM formats, but more of an underground thing. It should have been a HIT!

Bruno, Ciao, amico. The Italian AMERICA album you sent Steve is an elegant and beautiful gesture/gift on your behalf. You are a class act! :o)

Good evening all,


Message: 35241 Posted: Fri Aug 27 15:32:00 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Re; Songs written about other people

"Song For Guy" was on Elton John's 1978 album A Single Man.

Message: 35240 Posted: Fri Aug 27 15:30:31 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Gerry Said Morphing

When I was in high school, my friends and I patterned our style, after the boys of "America".
Very basic really, but the "Jeans, boots or tennis shoes and T shirts". When I saw the cover of "Homecoming" I had to have a levi jacket. In my junior year....I don't think I ever took it off !! Had to be like "Dewey, Gerry and Dan".
Mark M

Message: 35239 Posted: Fri Aug 27 15:18:20 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Re; Songs written about other people

I have never heard "Song for Guy"? But, it does have an intresting story behind it. What album is that on?
I don't think this song was rereleased as an A side....but, from what I understand, a radio station somewhere, played the B side (I'm not sure if by mistake or not)and it became the big hit. As far as I know it was this bands only hit.
The band was "Steam" and the song "Na na na na kiss him goodbye".

Message: 35238 Posted: Fri Aug 27 13:31:50 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Re; Songs written about other people

ok ok last one---- Killing me Softly was about Don Mc Lean

Message: 35237 Posted: Fri Aug 27 13:30:36 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell song references

and I read somewhere that "Our House" is his reply to "Willie"

Message: 35236 Posted: Fri Aug 27 13:26:37 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Gerry Said Morphing

>>Well, not quite natural surroundings but, you know, not right before or after a concert. The consensus? The man can dress well. <<

I ageee that GErry dresses well NOW! I credit his lovely wife ( a pretty sharp dresser herself!) I remember the horror he is wearing in a number of pictures on the Harbor lp! Makes me wonder who let him out of the house dressed like that ;) Ah well it WAS the 70's not exactly a time of great sartorial splendor!

Message: 35235 Posted: Fri Aug 27 12:17:34 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: Re; Songs written about other people

I can think of one instance off the top of my head. Here in the States,the Doobie Brothers did it with "Another Park,Another Sunday" which reached #32 in the Spring of 1974. Late that year the "flip" side,"Black Water" would be released and ended up going to #1 in the winter of 1975.

Message: 35234 Posted: Fri Aug 27 10:36:02 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: O.T. Double Sided Hit 45's (For Bluey)


Here are a few singles from the 50's, 60's and 70's in which the flip side became a hit as well:

"Hound Dog"/ "Don't Be Cruel"- Elvis Presley
"Day Tripper"/We Can Work It Out"- The Beatles
"Yellow Submarine"/"Eleanor Rigby"-The Beatles
"Penny Lane"/"Strawberry Fields Forever"-The Beatles
"It's Too Late"/"I Feel The Earth"-Carole King
"So Far Away"/"Smackwater Jack"-Carole King
"I Get Around"/"Don't Worry Baby"- The Beach Boys

These came easily to mind during my lunch break. Thanks for this fun mental exercise... If I can think of others I will post them later. Have a great weekend,


Message: 35233 Posted: Fri Aug 27 09:25:31 2004 By: kimcabrina
Subject: Re: Re; Songs written about other people

These two songs weren't about a specific person, but I seen to recall hearing that Lynard Skynard wrote Sweet Home Albama, in response to Neil Young's Southern Man.

Ya'll have a great weekend!

Message: 35232 Posted: Fri Aug 27 08:11:03 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Re; Songs written about other people

Couple of Elton John's with meanings:-
"Philadelphia Freedom" was written for Billie Jean King (Tennis)for her activist stand for female tennis players condition and the gay movement.
"Song For Guy": Apparently whilst in the recording studio, a young errand boy named Guy was delivering something when he was hit and killed. Elton finished the music and dedicated it to Guy - thus "Song For Guy" - and, I'm fairly certain, a large proportion of profit from sales for that song when to Guy's relatives.

How many singles were released where the B-Side was re-released as an A-Side and became a hit?
I can only think of two (2) at this stage and having in mind that they were Oz releases, they may differ to your singles.

(1) "Baby Please Don't Go" / "Gloria" - Them. "Gloria" later released as an A-Side and became a hit, and
(2) "Kiss On My List" / "You Make My Dreams" - Hall and Oates. "You Make My Dreams" re-released as an A-Side. Red Oak might confirm this but I'm sure "You Make My Dreams" went to No 1 in US, UK and Australia.

Have a good weekend, Bluey.
Anyone got any memories of other singles having done this?

Message: 35231 Posted: Fri Aug 27 06:29:24 2004 By: red oak
Subject: TGIF, B'days, History, Lyrics & Fashion Tips For Older Folks

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 27, 2004

51 years ago - Alex Lifeson, guitarist for Rush, is born. (1953)

39 years ago - Elvis Presley plays host to the Beatles at his home in Bel-Air. The get-together last four hours. (1965)

39 years ago - Columbia Records releases Bob Dylan's second electric album, "Highway 61 Revisited." Hits include "Like a Rolling Stone" and "Ballad of a Thin Man." (1965)

38 years ago - The Association's "Cherish" is released. (1966)

37 years ago - The Beatles learn while studying with the Maharishi at University College in Bangor, North Wales that their manager Brian Epstein is dead. He was found locked in the bedroom of his London apartment. A coroner's inquest found he died of an overdose of the sleeping pill Carbitrol. The death is ruled accidental and the Maharishi tells the Beatles that Epstein's death, being in the realm of the physical world, is "not important." (1967)

27 years ago - Supertramp's "Give A Little Bit" peaks at #15 on the pop singles chart while Crosby, Stills and Nash's "Just A Song Before I Go" peaks at #7. (1977)

22 years ago - Crosby, Stills & Nash's "Daylight Again," the group's first album since the 1977 "CSN," is certified gold. On the album is the current Top 20 tune "Wasted on the Way." (1982)

22 years ago - Led Zeppelin lead vocalist Robert Plant's solo effort "Pictures at Eleven," his first recorded work since the group disbanded in the wake of the death of drummer John "Bonzo" Bonham, turns gold. The LP is currently in its seventh week on the Top Albums chart and its fifth straight week in the Top Ten. (1982)

21 years ago - David Bowie's "China Girl" peaks at #10 on the pop singles chart while ZZ Top's "Sharp Dressed Man" peaks at #56. (1983)

21 years ago - Asia's "Alpha" LP enters the chart. The album features the #10 hit, "Don't Cry." (1983)

16 years ago - Elton John's "I Don't Want To Go On With You Like That" peaks at #2 on the pop singles chart while Pat Benatar's "All Fired Up" peaks at #19. (1988)

14 years ago - Blues-rock guitarist Stevie Ray Vaughan dies in a helicopter crash, along with three members of Eric Clapton's band, in Alpine Valley, Wisconsin. (1990)

12 years ago - John Lennon's handwritten lyrics to "A Day In The Life" sell for $87,000 at an auction. (1992)

10 years ago - Jimi Hendrix' "Woodstock" LP hits #37 on the chart. (1994)

9 years ago - Neil Young headlines the Redding Festival with Pearl Jam as his backing band. (1995)


The Association - Cherish

Cherish is the word I use to describe
All the feeling that I have hiding here for you inside
You don't know how many times I've wished that I had told you
You don't know how many times I've wished that I could hold you
You don't know how many times I've wished that I could
Mold you into someone who could
Cherish me as much as I cherish you

Perish is the word that more than applies
To the hope in my heart each time I realize
That I am not gonna be the one to share your dreams
That I am not gonna be the one to share your schemes
That I am not gonna be the one to share what
Seems to be the life that you could
Cherish as much as I do yours

Oh I'm beginning to think that man has never found
The words that could make you want me
That have the right amount of letters, just the right sound
That could make you hear, make you see
That you are drivin' me out of my mind

Oh I could say I need you but then you'd realize
That I want you just like a thousand other guys
Who'd say they loved you With all the rest of their lies
When all they wanted was to touch your face, your hands
And gaze into your eyes


Fashion Tips For The Aging

Many aging folks are confused these days about how we should present ourselves. We're unsure about the kind of image we are projecting and whether or not we are correct as we try to conform to current fashions. Despite what you may have seen on the streets, the following combinations DO NOT go together and should be avoided:

A nose ring and bifocals
Spiked hair and bald spots
A pierced tongue and dentures
Mini-skirts and support hose
Speedo's and cellulite
A belly button ring and a gall bladder surgery scar
Unbuttoned disco shirts and a heart monitor
Inline skates and a walker
Thongs and Depends

~~And the ultimate 'Bad Taste' in Fashion for "Older Folks"

Pierced nipples that hang below the waist........

Please keep these basic guidelines foremost in mind when you shop


Hey Mo, you & your hubby have a knock out time on Sunday seeing Mr. Henley. Get some pics if possible.

Jennaire, enjoy your show Sunday night with REO Speedwagon. Take some pics if you can.


Have a great weekend all............

Red Oak

Message: 35230 Posted: Fri Aug 27 06:28:20 2004 By: Nina
Subject: OT: To Madolyn/Songs written about other people

Hi Madolyn! My school system hasn't begun the school year in September for over 10 years. They always make us start the last week in August. I've missed a few America shows in Boston over the past few years because they played towards the end of August! Good luck with your little girl on the 9th! I taught Kingergaten for awhile, and I remember all the tears...from kids AND Moms! Try this: If you have a favorite perfume that you wear all the time, spray some on a hanky and give it to your daughter (or just spray it on her wrist) and tell her that IF she should miss you during that first day at school she should sniff the hanky, or her wrist, and remember that Mom is thinking of her, too! It'll connect the two of you until you can be togehter again at the end of the day!

Songs written about other people:

John Lennon's "How Do You Sleep at Night" (written about Paul) prompted Paul's response song: "Too Many People" (written about John)

Paul Simon's "So Long, Frank Lloyd Wright" and "The Only Living Boy in New York" were both written about partner, Art Garfunkle who was leaving to film "Catch 22" in Mexico, I think. Both of these songs appear on their "Bridge..." album.

Does ANYBODY remember Buffalo Springfield? Supposedly, Richie Furay wrote the song "A Child's Claim to Fame" about bandmate Neil Young. Neil countered with "I am a Child".

Message: 35229 Posted: Fri Aug 27 06:13:07 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: Friday AM Jam

It will be Gerry's Van Go Gan. I hit the replay forever on "Emma". I'm leaving now to start to set up for school...

Message: 35228 Posted: Fri Aug 27 05:55:03 2004 By: Andy
Subject: OT:!!!! Re: Songs written about other people.

Spider Web, by Joan Osborn is about Ray Charles.

Message: 35227 Posted: Fri Aug 27 05:41:40 2004 By: Andy
Subject: OT:!!!! Re: Songs written about other people.

Spider Web, by Joan Osborn is about Ray Charles.

Message: 35226 Posted: Fri Aug 27 05:35:34 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Friday AM Jam

Van Halen Live - Right Here Right Now. Disc 1

Message: 35225 Posted: Fri Aug 27 05:33:18 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: The Finn Bros tour, "Bluey" or Jimbob

“Bluey” or Jimbob, I’m looking for a Crowded House Live CD and I see that they have a few of them out there. Any suggestions as to which one is better? Thanks

Message: 35224 Posted: Fri Aug 27 04:15:40 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: Re: Songs written about other people.

When I lsten to ONE MORNING I wonder if Dewey wrote it about the recently departed Dan. "Where are you going now my friend, oh where are you going now.Are you going to see them on the mountain now.....?"

Message: 35223 Posted: Fri Aug 27 04:12:40 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Friday AM Jam

"Difinitive Simon and Garfunkel"
But, I might have to make the "Homecoming" switch as well?
Mark M

Message: 35222 Posted: Fri Aug 27 03:53:40 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Friday AM Jam

Homecoming. Thanks to Mark M., I might say.

What's in your player?

Message: 35221 Posted: Fri Aug 27 03:50:31 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: The Finn Bros tour

You make a valid point on "Silly love songs".
I never put 2 and 2 together till now....or never heard Paul mention that it's kind of a reply to Johns accuations.
You get a (Starr) for that one. Mark M

Message: 35220 Posted: Fri Aug 27 03:43:13 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: America???

you are too funny !! And welcome :)

Message: 35219 Posted: Fri Aug 27 03:41:12 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: America???

I knew it was tooo easy !!

Message: 35218 Posted: Fri Aug 27 02:35:07 2004 By: Danae
Subject: Re: Songs written about people

"Song For Bob Dylan" by David Bowie is written about Bob Dylan.
"Andy Warhol" by David Bowie is written about Andy Warhol.
These were the veeeeery easy ones.

Lou Reed's composition "Femme Fatale" for the group Velvet Underground is about Edie Sedgwick.

Message: 35217 Posted: Fri Aug 27 00:35:07 2004 By: alessandra
Subject: Re: Italian interview

the link to GQ Mag. interview is on msg 32431 Apr 03 (if that's the interview you're looking for).


Message: 35216 Posted: Thu Aug 26 23:26:16 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: The Finn Bros tour

jimbob, G'Day mate, just to let you know The Finn Bros Sydney concert was announced yesterday, they are appearing State Theatre, Sydney Wednesday, 1/12/04. Tickets on sale Fri 3/9/04. Their new album "Everyone Is Here" was reviewed as Album of the Week. New single over here is "Won't Give In". Actually I might get a ticket. I would imagine a tour is on the cards. Cheers.

Sherry: Hi, like everyone on this chatline, I've been an America fan, well for me, since they started. I've got every LP, CD and a pre-ordered DVD and have even met them but I'm also a music lover and get into a lot a other sites. WHY IS THIS THE BEST SITE? Because we talk about everything and not just one subject. The band knows we are here because of them. Stay - they're a good bunch.

MarkM..What about "Silly Love Songs" apparently John was quoted as saying that all Paul wrote were silly love songs and as Paul sings, ..."Silly Love Songs, What's Wrong With That? I Like To Know, Cause Here I Go Again"


Message: 35215 Posted: Thu Aug 26 22:59:50 2004 By: Joe B
Subject: Re: Guitar man

Hello People,

The amazing guitar solo on Bread's "Guitar Man" was played by veteran studio musician (and Bread member) Larry Knechtel. Among his gazillion other credits is the piano on Simon & Garfunkel's "Bridge Over Troubled Water". Talented guy who often worked with Joe Osborne and Hal Blaine of early America "Homecoming" fame.

Joe B

P.S. Cubs for the wildcard.
P.P.S. You can now hear Super Groovy 70's over the internet Saturday at 2pm eastern time - check out the link at

Message: 35214 Posted: Thu Aug 26 21:02:12 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: America???

Hi deeee hoooooo ~~~ Hmmmmm ~~~Think I'll write a different song, gotta feeling it might take a lonnnnnng time, singing it over again, "I Can't Recall Just How It Used" to Be Voices across the Sea, ooooooooooooooooooo will she come to me, to keep me company, won't know Till The Sun Comes Up Again~~ gotta take the good with the bad, sometimes I wish I never had my say, it always goes that way, or is it just the way I feel today, Voices across the way ~~~Ooooooooh how I love this song... Sing it again Gerry~ Dewey ~Dan :) Thanks Mark for sparking this nice song to flow from my mind to my finger tips.... Nancy :)

Message: 35213 Posted: Thu Aug 26 20:52:42 2004 By: Kade
Subject: Re: America???

Till The Sun Comes Up Again...Love it!

Message: 35212 Posted: Thu Aug 26 20:16:16 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: America???

OK, who can tell me what "America" song this one line is from?
"I can't recall just how it use to be"
From your cheating. I think this ones too easy?
Mark M

Message: 35211 Posted: Thu Aug 26 20:13:34 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: Songs written about people

And Paul apparently wrote "Hey Jude" about young Julian in the midst of him having to deal w/ his dad getting together w/ Yoko.

-- Madolyn

Message: 35210 Posted: Thu Aug 26 20:02:30 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Songs written about people

Also from the white album comes "Martha my dear". A song for Pauls sheep dog.
Mark M

Message: 35209 Posted: Thu Aug 26 19:59:36 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Songs written about people

I don't know if "Mick or Keith" had any songs about "Brian Jones"
But Lennons "Steel and glass" is also about Paul, and takes some real shots at him !!
Of course McCartney has at least one of his own with "Too many people".
Mark M

Message: 35208 Posted: Thu Aug 26 19:53:45 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: OT: Sherry to Moser

"Let the fur fly." Anon.DanC.

Message: 35207 Posted: Thu Aug 26 19:37:27 2004 By: Sherry
Subject: Re: OT: Sherry to Moser

I beg your pardon, I was simply suggesting that people who post non-America items might use "OT" in their subject line, a common practice on message boards.

I, for one, prefer to read about America, and that facilitates the process. Thank you for your consideration.

As far as content, your recent posts don't seem to have much America content.

Message: 35206 Posted: Thu Aug 26 19:29:40 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: America???OT

"No short-haired, yellow-bellied son of Tricky Dicky's gonna Mother Hubbard soft soap me with just a pocketful Hope" John Lennon...DanC.

Message: 35205 Posted: Thu Aug 26 19:22:55 2004 By: Moser
Subject: OT: Sherry

That's your second cranky post. Lighten up. Perhaps you could add to the conversation with some actual content rather than direction?

Message: 35204 Posted: Thu Aug 26 19:22:54 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Iron man

Here's the lyrics for Iron Man. I don't see that they are about Ozzy or a body part. Seems like a mythical song about vengence.


"Iron Man"

Has he lost his mind?
Can he see or is he blind?
Can he walk at all,
Or if he moves will he fall?
Is he alive or dead?
Has he thoughts within his head?
We'll just pass him there
why should we even care?

He was turned to steel
in the great magnetic field
When he travelled time
for the future of mankind

Nobody wants him
He just stares at the world
Planning his vengeance
that he will soon unfurl

Now the time is here
for Iron Man to spread fear
Vengeance from the grave
Kills the people he once saved

Nobody wants him
They just turn their heads
Nobody helps him
Now he has his revenge

Heavy boots of lead
fills his victims full of dread
Running as fast as they can
Iron Man lives again!

Message: 35203 Posted: Thu Aug 26 19:09:01 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: Songs written about people

"You're So Vain" has been said to be about Warren Beatty or Mick Jagger. A while ago, maybe last year, there was a contest held about this song. I don't remember the details, but Carly Simon was to reveal to the winner who the song was about. A hint was given; she said there was an "E" in the person's name. Anyway, a winner was announced but she made him promise never to reveal the name.
I'm not making this up! It was in People Magazine. I eagerly awaited the outcome because I have that LP and have always speculated as to who the song was about. Maybe we will never know...

Message: 35202 Posted: Thu Aug 26 19:03:14 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell song references

If your daughter has a teacher like Nina and NancyM, she'll be just fine.

Message: 35201 Posted: Thu Aug 26 18:30:41 2004 By: Sherry
Subject: America???

Am I in the right place, I thought this was supposed to be a folder about the band America? When people post off topic, is it possible to put "OT" in the subject line? Just a suggestion.

Message: 35200 Posted: Thu Aug 26 18:25:33 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Songs written about people

Oh another one just popped into my head; Julia was written by John about his mother of the same name; it's on the "White" album for anyone out there who's not Fab...DanC.

Message: 35199 Posted: Thu Aug 26 18:19:04 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Songs written about people

John Lennon's "How Do You Sleep" of the Imagine album was written about his good bud Paul. I just love his word play in songs. Cool topic and I have enjoyed reading the others. I'm just a casual Stones fan but I'm sure Mick or Keith must of wrote a tune for and about Brian Jones. Can anyone help on this?. DanC.

Message: 35198 Posted: Thu Aug 26 18:03:04 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell song references

Nina wrote: Most of MA starts [school] on Aug. 30/31st.

Nina, I'm also in MA! My 4.5-yr-old daughter starts school this fall for the first time (she'll be in a PreK/K classroom). Our town doesn't start until 9/9, and the PreK and K kids don't start until the following Monday 9/13. I'm glad I have a little more time before the big day comes -- I'm going to be a wreck!

-- Madolyn

Message: 35197 Posted: Thu Aug 26 18:00:33 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Iron man

I seriously dought they make any reference to "Ozzy Osbourne" :)

Message: 35196 Posted: Thu Aug 26 17:49:09 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell song references

Thanks NancyM and Nina for your warm wishes. Only 185 more days to go!!!!!!!!!!!

Message: 35195 Posted: Thu Aug 26 16:51:28 2004 By: Andy
Subject: Re: Iron man

Gee Mark, there must have been a gazillion e-mails in my spam folder that may have addressed this topic. Now I feel sorry that I deleted them all :-)

Message: 35194 Posted: Thu Aug 26 15:34:30 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Iron man

Here is one that is different, but somewhat along the same lines. When I was in high school, a kid told me that "Black Sabbaths, Iron man" is about a penis !! lol
I don't know if that is true, but it makes me grinn everytime I hear it. :)
Mark M

Message: 35193 Posted: Thu Aug 26 15:24:16 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Songs written about people

Mark, I knew that was about "David Gates" dad. When I hear it, I think of my own parents now.
Moser, that sounds like a fun theorie...even if it turns out false?
lol I will check it out on "Mr. Peeks site"

Johnny, thatis correct about "Dear Prudence". "The Beatles anthology"
mentions it.

Sergio, you are welcome....Im kinda suprised at the response, but it is very intresting. :)
Rob L and Madolyn, next time I need to find out what a certain song is about...I know where to go !! ;)
I heard that "Carly Simons...your so vain" is about "Warren Beatty".
Paul McCartneys "Here today" from "Tug of war" is another John Lennon song. Seems to be a few of those, as well as Joni Mitchell.

Message: 35192 Posted: Thu Aug 26 14:53:09 2004 By: Nina
Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell song references

Another obvious one is Joni's song "Willie", which was written about Graham Nash, whose knickname is, or was, Willie.

I've heard it rumored that her song "Circle Game" was written in answer to Neil Young's "Sugar Mountain", and in my teen/college days often heard the two played back-to-back on FM radio. (THAT must sound strange to the younger set...FM radio??? "What does she mean, Mommy?")

I must admit, I AM feeling quite old lately. (Thanks for the votes of confidence, guys!) Probably has something to do with impending school opening and being surrounded by all the new, young, fresh-out-of-college teachers. Administration hauled me in (alias: old battle axe teacher)to speak to the "newbies" about classroom management. I looked out into the audience of bobbing blond ponytails and most of them had a "deer-in-the-headlights" look on their faces. (I KNOW that they must have been thinking: "Is this broad for real"?!?)

Bonesy...You started back already in CT? Poor hurts, doesn't it? Most of MA starts on Aug. 30/31st. Wishing you, and all other "America fan" teachers good luck!

Message: 35191 Posted: Thu Aug 26 14:32:57 2004 By: Shirley
Subject: Italian interview

I'm looking through the archives for the Italian interview that was linked in May? or June? Or was it before that? Can someone help? Thanks

Message: 35190 Posted: Thu Aug 26 13:51:46 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: Songs that are about people specifically

Here's some more that I've read or heard are attributed to someone famous:

* "Peanuts" by The Police (off their first album) -- Sting said he wrote this about Rod Stewart
* "You're an Original" by Sheryl Crow -- this is about Shelby Lynne, and it isn't an ode
* "Guinevere" by David Crosby -- I read it's about an amalgamation of Joni Mitchell and his girlfriend who was killed in an auto accident
* "Our House" by Graham Nash was about Joni (I think of this as a "Three Roses" kind of story)
* "Baby You're a Rich Man" by the Beatles is supposed to be about Brian Epstein
* "A Man Needs a Maid" by Neil Young -- I read he wrote this about Carrie Snodgrass when they first got together (they had a child together)
* "Jazz Man" by Carole King is about someone famous, and I can't remember who (I think I read she said it was about Miles Davis, but I'm not positive"
* "Can We Still Be Friends" by Todd Rundgren is about Bebe Buell (Liv Tyler's mother) when they broke up
* "Love Stinks" by J Geils was written by Peter Wolf during his breakup w/ Faye Dunaway

I can't think of any more, but I'm sure there are plenty more I'll come up with later.

-- Madolyn (trivia and pop culture junkie)

Message: 35189 Posted: Thu Aug 26 13:32:46 2004 By: Robsl
Subject: Songs that are about people specifically

I figured I would contribute to the songs that are about someone specific type conversation that's been going on. It's a pretty interesting topic.:

"You Haven't Done Nothin'" by Stevie Wonder is about Richard Nixon
Johnny's an Angel" by Aztec Two Step seems to be about John Lennon (it includes little musical nods to a couple of Beatles songs in it)
"Empty Garden (Hey Hey Johnny)" by Elton John is about John Lennon as
And, the very famous "Candle in the Wind" is about Marilyn Monroe and the remake "Candle in the Wind 1997" is about Princess Diana.
"Ms. Jackson" by OutKast was written to Erykah Badu's mother. That's a rumor I heard anyhow.
"Bobby Jean" by Bruce Springsteen was written as a love song, but if you change the lyrics a little, it is written about Little Steven Van Zandt (member of the E Street Band and actor on the Sopranos)
"Big Shot" by Billy Joel is apparently about Bianca Jagger, whom Joel dated for a short period of time.
"Vincent" by Don McLean (Vincent Van Gogh)
"Missing You" by Diana Ross was written for Marvin Gaye
"Nightshift" by the Commodores talks about Marvin Gaye and Jackie Wilson
REM's "Man on the Moon" is about Andy Kaufman, and also "The Great Beyond"

"Sexy Sadie" by the Beatles is, if I remember correctly, about the Indian guru they lived with....somebody help me remember his name. I think his name is Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. I'm not sure if that's it but I think so...
"Hey Man Nice Shot" by Filter is supposedly about Kurt Cobain...yes, it's really disturbing that that song is about Kurt Cobain but i heard that it is...twisted but possibly true.
"Mighty K.C." by ForSquirrels and "My Hero" by The Foo Fighters are also written about Kurt Cobain.
I bet I will think of some others, maybe I will add to this later.

Take care everyone,
Rob L

Message: 35188 Posted: Thu Aug 26 12:15:51 2004 By: Andy
Subject: Re: Guitar man/ killing me softly with old black plastic

I should clarify one thing: I was talking about the Lori Lieberman recording, not Roberta Flack's. I assume that Roberta Flack's version is still a dime a dozen, while Lori Lieberman's is as rare as hearing an acoustic guitar at a thrash metal concert.

Message: 35187 Posted: Thu Aug 26 12:11:35 2004 By: Andy
Subject: Re: Guitar man/ killing me softly with old black plastic

"Killing Me Softly" sung by Roberta Flack was first released by Lori Leiberman and was inspired by her seeing Don McLean in concert and was written by Gimbel and Fox."
It just so happens that my friend's father owned that album on those old, huge black discs they used before CDs :-) I was so impressed with it that he let me keep it...on the condition that I make him a copy. A very nice recording, indeed. Not a synth or fake anything to be heard.

Message: 35186 Posted: Thu Aug 26 10:19:58 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Guitar man (And Who Songs Are About)

Here are a couple of songs and who they are about~

"Angie" by the Rolling Stones is attributed to Angie Bowie, supposedly because Mick Jagger had an affair with David Bowie's lady. Others attribute it to Anita Pallenberg via Keith Richard's involvement with her, while drunk Keith screamed "Anita I need ya" which translated to "Angie" in the song...

"Killing Me Softly" sung by Roberta Flack was first released by Lori Leiberman and was inspired by her seeing Don McLean in concert and was written by Gimbel and Fox.

If you can dig way back into your memory banks, you might remember "Oh Carol" written and performed by Neil Sedaka for his then love interest Carole King. There was a non hit response from Carole called "Oh Neil".

Fun topic. Thanks for suggesting it Mark M,


Message: 35185 Posted: Thu Aug 26 09:53:36 2004 By: rc
Subject: OT: Attn: Microsoft XP Users..

My isp sent this message the other day. Yes,it's legit because I checked it out first. This only affects those using XP.

This is what the message said..
"If you are currently using the Windows XP Operating System on any of your computers that access the Internet, this courtesy message is for you. Users of other operating systems are not affected.

In August, Microsoft Corporation will be offering Windows XP users an update called "Service Pack 2". You may hear about the Service Pack 2 update in the news, on the Internet, or by seeing prompts on your computer screen telling you to load a "Critical Upgrade" to Windows.

Service Pack 2 provides a series of security enhancements for the Windows XP operating system. These new updates and features may cause your Internet service and other software on your computer to behave differently.

If you are using a firewall on your XP computer, you will need to go to the firewall manufacturer's website and load any software updates they provide for Service Pack 2. Although we do not provide support for firewall software, you can find information and web-links for the major firewall companies at:

Zone Alarm:
Norton Personal Firewall:
McAfee Personal Firewall Plus:

For problems with other software, please check the manufacturer's website for information and Service Pack 2 software updates.

If you would like to know more about the Windows XP Service Pack 2 update,
please refer to the Microsoft site at: or call 1-888-SP2-HELP (1-888-772-4357).

Message: 35184 Posted: Thu Aug 26 09:20:31 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Joni Mitchell song ref's

All this talk about Joni being the inspiration for "She's Gonna Let You Down" got me thinking ... for you Joni fans, ever wonder who the people she had in mind when some of her songs were written? I've heard that "Carey" was about James Taylor, she's publicly stated that "Free Man in Paris" was about David Geffen. I've always wondered who she was talking about in "Conversation." And I've speculated that maybe "Trouble Child" was about David Crosby. "Little Green" (off of "Blue") is about the daughter she gave up for adoption (and joyfully found later in life) -- listen to the lyrics with that in mind, and you'll be reduced to puddles.

-- Madolyn

Message: 35183 Posted: Thu Aug 26 09:16:02 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: One Other Theory...While I'm At It

Another song theory, which has absolutely no evidence to support it whatsoever--circumstantial or otherwise--is that One In A Million is about the night of Gerry's son's birth.

I've always thought that "All My Life" was probably about his son. Even though it could be interpreted as something romantic, it could also be about the pure love that is between a parent and child.

-- Madolyn

Message: 35182 Posted: Thu Aug 26 07:37:35 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Martha vs. Maxine

I am definitely a Maxine. Definitely.

Message: 35181 Posted: Thu Aug 26 06:27:57 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Martha & Maxine

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 26, 2004

40 years ago - The Supremes top the singles chart for the first time with "Where Did Our Love Go?" (1964)

37 years ago - The Beatles go see the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi at Univeristy College. At a press conference, the Maharishi, with the Beatles seated next to him, gives strong and sincere answers to the press' sarcastic and sometime silly questions. The Beatles announce they have given up drugs as Paul McCartney explains, "It was an experience we went through. We don't need it anymore. We're finding different ways to get there." (1967)

37 years ago - Jimi Hendrix's "Purple Haze" is released. (1967)

37 years ago - Simon & Garfunkel's "Fakin' It" peaks at #23 on the pop chart. (1967)

36 years ago - Apple Corps releases its first products: five singles including the Beatles' "Hey Jude" backed by "Revolution." It becomes the bands biggest hit. (1968)

36 years ago - Jeannie C. Riley's "Harper Valley P.T.A." is certified gold. (1968)

34 years ago - The Isle of Wight Pop Festival is underway in England. Jimi Hendrix makes his last public appearance. During Joni Mitchell's set, a man jumps on stage, grabs the mic and shouts, "This is just a hippie concentration camp." Mitchell burts into tears. The festival ends August 31. (1970)

34 years ago - Duane Allman starts recording as a member of Eric Clapton's new band, Derek & the Dominoes. A double album is finished in less than 10 days. Clapton calls Allman "the catalyst" of the whole project. (1970)

32 years ago - Argent's "Hold Your Head Up" peaks at #5 on the chart. (1972)

32 years ago - The Hollies' "Distant Light" enters the chart. The album contains the hit single, "Long Cool Woman (In A Black Dress)." (1972)

28 years ago - Aerosmith is featured on the cover of "Rolling Stone." (1976)

27 years ago - The Pretenders play their first public gig, opening for Strangeways. (1977)

25 years ago - Phil Collins joins Peter Gabriel onstage at the Redding Festival for a version of the Genesis classic, "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway." (1979)

24 years ago - Cheap Trick bassist Tom Peterson quits the group due to the inevitable "personal and musical differences." He is replaced by Pete Comita. However, he returns to the group in 1988. (1980)

21 years ago - "Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence," a film starring David Bowie, opens in the United States. (1983)

17 years ago - Sonny Bono announces he is running for mayor of Palm Springs. He wins. (1987)

15 years ago - Don Henley's "The End of the Innocence" peaks at #8 on the pop singles chart. (1989)

15 years ago - Ringo Starr wins a court order to prevent a record producer from releasing material Starr considered to be of inferior quality due to the impaired state Starr was in when it was recorded. (1989)

14 years ago - Randy Newman wins an Emmy for composing music for "Cop Rock." (1990)


The Hollies - Long Cool Woman

Saturday night I was downtown
Working for the F.B.I.
Sitting in a nest of bad men
Whiskey bottles piling high

Bootlegging boozer on the west side
Full of people who are doing wrong
Just about to call up the DA man
When I heard this woman sing a song

A pair of 45s made me open my eyes
My temperature started to rise
She was a long cool woman in a black dress
Just-a 5'9, beautiful, tall
With just one look I was a bad mess
'Cause that long cool woman had it all

I saw her heading to the table
Like a tall walking big black cat
When Charlie said I hope that you're able boy
'Cause I'm telling you she knows where it's at
Then suddenly we heard the sirens
And everybody started to run
A-jumping out of doors and tables
When I heard somebody shooting a gun
Well the DA was pumping my left hand

And a-she was a-holding my right
Well I told her don't get scared
'Cause you're gonna be spared
I've gotta be forgiving if I wanna spend my living
With a long cool woman in a black dress
Just a 5'9 beautiful tall
Yeah, with just one look I was a bad mess
'Cause that long cool woman had it all
Had it all.....


Helpful hints for those that need them.

Martha's Way - Stuff a miniature marshmallow in the bottom of a sugar cone to prevent ice cream drips.
Maxine's Way - Just suck the ice cream out of the bottom of the cone, for Pete's sake! You are probably lying on the couch with your feet up eating it, anyway!

Martha's Way - To keep potatoes from BUDDING, place an apple in the bag with the potatoes.
Maxine's Way - Buy Hungry Jack mashed potato mix and keep it in the pantry for up to a year.

Martha's Way - When a cake recipe calls for flouring the baking pan, use a bit of the dry cake mix instead and there won't be any white mess on the outside of the cake.
Maxine's Way - Go to the bakery! They'll even decorate it for you.

Martha's Way - If you accidentally oversalt a dish while it's still cooking, drop in a peeled potato and it will absorb the excess salt for an instant "fix-me-up."
Maxine's Way - If you oversalt a dish while you are cooking, that's too bad. Please recite with me the real woman's motto: "I made it and you will eat it and I don't care how bad it tastes!"

Martha's Way - Wrap celery in aluminum foil when putting in the refrigerator and it will keep for weeks.
Maxine's Way - Celery? Never heard of it!

Martha's Way - Brush some beaten egg white over pie crust before baking to yield a beautiful glossy finish.
Maxine's Way - The Mrs. Smith frozen pie directions do not include brushing egg whites over the crust so I don't.

Martha's Way - Cure for headaches: take a lime, cut it in half and rub it on your forehead. The throbbing will go away.
Maxine's Way - Take a lime, mix it with tequila, chill and drink!

Martha's Way - If you have a problem opening jars, try using latex dishwashing gloves. They give a non-slip grip that makes opening jars easy.
Maxine's Way - Go ask that very cute neighbor if he can open it for you.

Martha's Way - Don't throw out all that leftover wine. Freeze into ice cubes for future use in casseroles and sauces.
Maxine's Way - Leftover wine???? HELL-LLOOO!!!


TGIAF everyone.......... Gotta go look for a Long Cool Woman!

Red Oak

Message: 35180 Posted: Thu Aug 26 06:25:12 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Guitar man (And Who Songs Are About)

From the Beatles' White Album ~ Dear Prudence ~ Mia Farrow's sister Prudence (or so I've heard)

Message: 35179 Posted: Thu Aug 26 05:52:50 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Gerry Said...& etc.

I should have known that. Sorry for my confusion!!

Message: 35178 Posted: Thu Aug 26 05:47:07 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: Gerry Said...& etc.

Ah, yes, Mo, we did have fun last night with those topics, didn't we? August is such a barren month. Come on, guys, show time...DVD...soon, please? We miss you!
Bones, happy first day back at school. I just can't wait to go back myself (yeah, right).
Um, Mo, sorry to burst your bubble (and your sister-in-law's), but SGH was really about me!

Message: 35177 Posted: Thu Aug 26 05:16:27 2004 By: Moser
Subject: One Other Theory...While I'm At It

Another song theory, which has absolutely no evidence to support it whatsoever--circumstantial or otherwise--is that One In A Million is about the night of Gerry's son's birth. I know I've said that before, too, if not here then on the live chat. But, hey, without the recycling of the same topics over and over here, what would we have to talk about? A new DVD release might be something to talk about...or, better yet, a new CD. Hint, hint.

(Perhaps I have spent too much time in HS English Lit looking for the 'real' meaning of the poems!!)

Message: 35176 Posted: Thu Aug 26 05:05:58 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Guitar man

Mark M.,

The Joni Mitchell connection is more circumstantial evidence than any evidence in the lyrics themselves. Background reading can be found on Mr. Peek's website. It's just one of my many theories and likely holds no water at all...but it is fun to ponder.

Happy Thursday,

Message: 35175 Posted: Thu Aug 26 04:51:17 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Guitar Man

I always thought Guitar Man was just a general tail about the life cycle of a rock star, rather than any one specifically. It is a great song.

I did read about another Bread song, Everything I Own was written by David Gates after the death of his father. I always thought it was a very moving song, more so now that I know what inspired it.

Message: 35174 Posted: Thu Aug 26 04:03:39 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Guitar Man

I am not to farmilar with that one?? But, she must be the one that wears the pants in that relationship??
Mark M

Message: 35173 Posted: Thu Aug 26 03:58:16 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Guitar man

I will have to listen to "Shes gonna let you down" and check out the "Joni" connection. Love "Joni Mitchell".
Mark M

Message: 35172 Posted: Thu Aug 26 03:55:15 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Guitar man (And Who Songs Are About)

Rick Derringer?? I would love to hear the story behind that one !!
Mark M

Message: 35171 Posted: Thu Aug 26 03:52:35 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Guitar man

I guess the song must be about "David" himself? It seems to be a mystery to everyone....Are there no "Bread"
fans out there? lol
It is a great song...The guitar does have that "Harrison" sound to it dosn't it? I never thought of it before.
Mark M

Message: 35170 Posted: Thu Aug 26 03:48:38 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Use-By Date (For Bluey)

<<Sergio, if you have got the "I Saw The Light" 45, turn it over and play "Marlene", great song.>>


Thanks for the tip. I will have to dig my "I Saw the Light" 45 out this weekend (the 45's are all safely stored away). I look forward to hearing "Marlene". :o)


Message: 35169 Posted: Thu Aug 26 01:35:57 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Re: Guitar Man


The only person's name I would like to know (and address, just in case) is the female AC/DC dedicated too in their song, "She's Got Balls". Now that's something you would want to know forever!


Message: 35168 Posted: Thu Aug 26 01:30:08 2004 By: bruno
Subject: FOR STEVE ( a rare album)

Thanks Steve for the very recent publication in "America-Albums" of the photos of "Italian Album" with title THE VERY BEST.
In the next days I send you real album in gift.
Music of the America represent for me a great spring of sensations and memories.
Your work Steve for the site America-Fans is very good and this album is a little (but rare) gift for great your work. It is just that I give you this album in gift.
Ciao Hi
Johnny Yee, Sergio, Genevieve, Nancy and All Fans of America

Message: 35167 Posted: Wed Aug 25 22:45:10 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Gerry Said Morphing

Well, I'm fresh out of the sweaty chat room with news of the conversation's topics...for those who could hardly wait to find out. For the third week in a row (I think) we covered the newly favored topic/game of Gerry Said. It starts out with truthful quotes from Mr. Beckley. But since we run out of things Gerry HAS ACTUALLY said to us in person, it quickly converts to Gerry Said, The Fiction Version. You might guess where this topic can lead. However, it usually isn't as racy as you might suspect. Rather, it is usually pretty funny. One such fictional Gerry Said had him quitting America and joining up with another band...KISS. Can you imagine our Gerry in full KISS make-up?? Well, he would have to look better than Gene Simmons! (Thank you for that one, Jen.)

A second morphing of the Gerry Said theme started tonight...Gerry Wore. So far, this is not the Gerry Wore on stage stuff, this is the Gerry Wore when someone happened to see him in his 'natural surroundings.' Well, not quite natural surroundings but, you know, not right before or after a concert. The consensus? The man can dress well. One little, tiny request though, could you tuck your shirt in once in a while? It offers a better view, especially on Sandman when your back is to the audience.

Okay, clearly, there were no men at chat for the majority of the time this evening. Can you tell? And perhaps I should just delete this post. But, how about if I promise to behave starting again tomorrow? I ask for your has been a long month with very few photos and even less news. The light at the end of the tunnel is visible...September approaches.

Message: 35166 Posted: Wed Aug 25 22:25:16 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Guitar man

I have no idea who Guitar Man is about, sorry.

On the subject of who other songs are about, I could swear that "She's Gonna Let You Down" is about Joni Mitchell. I know I've said that here before. But it is worth mentioning again in this topic.

My sister-in-law has always thought Sister Golden Hair is about her. Unfortunately, she didn't know it was actually about me--no matter that I was never blonde and that I was only about 12!!

Message: 35165 Posted: Wed Aug 25 21:39:42 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Guitar man (And Who Songs Are About)

Mark M ~ That's a fun topic. I hope to read more postings of that nature by others here. Here's one that I assume is true. I wasn't aware of it until just recently: Steely Dan's "Rikki Don't Lose That Number" is allegedly about Rick Derringer.

Message: 35164 Posted: Wed Aug 25 21:18:05 2004 By: Andy
Subject: Re: Guitar man

I have no clue if that song was about one individual, but wow! That is one amazing song! I don't know who did the distinctive lead guitar, but whoever did must have spent many hours listening to George Harrison.

Message: 35163 Posted: Wed Aug 25 20:42:09 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Use-By Date

you have my vote too....As far as age goes, you are only as old as you let yourself be. I figure as long as I keep listening to "Rock and roll" and keep playing "basketball" I will slow it down some. :)
Almost 50, but still "Rockin' and hoopin".
Mark M

Message: 35162 Posted: Wed Aug 25 20:29:43 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Guitar man

I have a question?
It has to do with "Guitar man" by "Bread".
I was in my truck listening to my favorite radio station tonight, and they played the song "Guitar man". I started wondering if the song was written for anyone in particular?
Like "Fogelberg" Has "Leader of the band" about his dad.
George Harrisons "All those years ago" is about John.
Stephen Stills "Suite Judy blues eyes" is written for "Judy Collins".
Did David Gates have someone in mind when he wrote "Guitar man"?
Mark M

Message: 35161 Posted: Wed Aug 25 20:24:00 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Use-By Date

Nina, how's this for being old!
My daughter-in-law, Jackie, brought our 2 month old grandson, Thomas, over for lunch today. Thomas had his bottle but couldn't settle down so Cheryl suggested putting him in his pram and sitting him in front of the stereo and I put on a CD -"The Definitive America" - and never heard another word from him. Jackie said to me, "Didn't you play America when Jason (my son- Jackie's husband) was a baby and it hit me. One generation to another. I guess that might put Thomas down as America's youngest fan. I wonder if his kids will be hearing the same songs?

Sergio, if you have got the "I Saw The Light" 45, turn it over and play "Marlene", great song.

I think I'll take a nap, hope that makes you feel younger Nina. I can tell you one thing for sure, to us blokes on this Chatline you're much prettier than Gerry any day! (I hope I'm speaking for all you guys out there!)

Old Bluey

Message: 35160 Posted: Wed Aug 25 16:47:41 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Re: Response to Moser/Att. KarenL(Neenah pic for Nina)

Hi Nina - I'm glad you liked the picture! In case the rest of you are wondering, it was just a picture I took - in Dubuque, IA, of all places - of a manhole cover (I think?) that read, "Neenah Foundry, Neenah, WI". It made me think of our Nina, since she's kind of amused at Dewey's wife Penny's hometown of Neenah, WI, being so similar to her name. So, I just had to get a photo of it for her. Yes, I'm easily amused at times! But I'm always thinking of America and my chat folder friends. (Thanks, Mo, for sending it to Nina for me. I didn't know where to post it and didn't have her e-mail address.)

Message: 35159 Posted: Wed Aug 25 15:52:14 2004 By: Nina
Subject: Response to Moser/Att. KarenL

Thanks for trying to comfort me Mo, but the fact remains that no matter how old I get; Gerry is always going to be a few years older than me...AND PRETTIER than me, too! (While the "pretty" thing depresses me...the "older" thing has a nice ring to it!)

PS:Mo, I got your e-mail re: KarenL earlier this week: did you receive my response? Thanks, Karen, if you are reading this...I found the pix very funny!

Message: 35158 Posted: Wed Aug 25 12:57:22 2004 By: Cathy
Subject: Re: Todd Rundgren

The very first "rock" album I bought I must admit was not "America" but "Something/Anything" by Todd Rundgren and, yes, I still have it and, yes, I still listen to it on my record player (=:

Message: 35157 Posted: Wed Aug 25 12:19:09 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Response to Bluey/Nina

Very funny but don't forget...

(Or at least not enough for it to count.)

Message: 35156 Posted: Wed Aug 25 11:20:05 2004 By: Nina
Subject: Re: Response to Bluey

Yep, I'm old. Thanks for pointing that out, Bluey.

Message: 35155 Posted: Wed Aug 25 08:17:59 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Todd Rundgren

I had a couple of his early albums that I really liked, Runt and The Ballad of Todd Rundgren.

Message: 35154 Posted: Wed Aug 25 06:49:12 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Cyber Question

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 25, 2004

55 years ago - Gene Simmons, bassist for KISS, is born. (1949)

53 years ago - Rob Halford, vocalist for Judas Priest, enters the world. (1951)

50 years ago - Elvis Costello is born. (1954)

42 years ago - The Four Seasons' "Sherry" enters the Hot 100 at #91. The song will make it to the top spot on the pop chart within a month. (1962)

42 years ago - Little Eva's "The Locomotion" hits #1 on the pop chart. (1962)

41 years ago - Paul McCartney is fined 31 pounds and given a 1 year suspended license for speeding. (1963)

34 years ago - Elton John makes his first appearance in the U.S. at Los Angeles' Troubador, kicking off a 17 day tour. (1970)

34 years ago - Emerson, Lake and Palmer make their world debut at Plymouth Guild Hall in Plymouth, England. (1970)

31 years ago - The Faces play what they claim is their last U.K. date. Faces bassist Tetsu Yamaychi has been denied a work permit by the Musicians Union, which has Rod Stewart calling the decision, "a disgrace." However, the group stays together and Stewart claims he's devoting all his time to the group and his next solo LP will be his last. (1973)

31 years ago - The Allman Brothers' "Ramblin' Man" is released, and the album "Brothers and Sisters" enters the album charts. (1973)

31 years ago - Stevie Wonder's "Innervisions" enters the album charts. It would go on to win the Grammy for Album Of The Year. (1973)

29 years ago - Elton John plays two sets on the first of three night at L. A.'s Troubadour to raise money for UCLA's Jules Stein Eye Institute. Over $150,000 is raised for the clinic. John's dates at the Troubadour are special to him because five years ago on this date, he began a weeklong stint thee that helped establish his superstar status in the U.S. (1975)

28 years ago - Boston releases its self-titled album, which becomes the best-selling debut album ever. (1976)

26 years ago - Jackson Browne's "Running on Empty" turns platinum. His fifth album is a cleverly constructed diary on the road that includes performances recorded on stage and even in hotel rooms. He garners two Top 20 hits, the title track and "Stay/The Load Out." (1978)

25 years ago - The Knack's "My Sharona" hits #1 on the chart while Dire Straits' "Lady Writer" peaks at #45. (1979)

25 years ago - Gary Numan releases "Cars." (1979)

25 years ago - Jazz leader, composer and arranger Stan Kenton dies following a long illness at Hollywood's Midway. He did influence rock and roll music and it can be heard in the horn charts used by the band, Chicago. (1979)

23 years ago - John Lennon's murderer, Mark David Chapman, is sentenced to 20 years in prison. (1981)

22 years ago - Fleetwood Mac chalks up another platinum record for the album "Mirage." It contains the hit singles "Hold Me" and "Gypsy." (1982)

20 years ago - Billy Joel's "Leave A Tender Moment Alone" hits #27 on the pop singles chart. (1984)

20 years ago - Glenn Frey's "The Allnighter" LP enters the charts. (1984)

18 years ago - Paul Simon's "Graceland" is released. (1986)

15 years ago - John Mellencamp becomes a grandfather at age 38 when his daughter Michelle gives birth to daughter Elexis Suzanne Peach. (1989)

15 years ago - Duran Duran lead singer Simon LeBon and wife Yasmin become parents to daughter Amber Rose. (1989)

10 years ago - A New York judge formally dissolves the marriage between Billy Joel and Christie Brinkley. (1994)

10 years ago - Jimmy Buffett's plane flips after taking off in Nantucket, Mass. He swims to safety. (1994)

10 years ago - Robert Plant and Jimmy Page reunite in a London studio to record their MTV "Unplugged" show, which they call, "Unledded." (1994)


Glenn Frey - You Belong To The City

The sun goes down
The night rolls in
You can feel it starting all over again
The moon comes up
And the music calls
You're getting tired of staring at the same four walls
You're out of your room
And down on the street
Moving through the crowds through the midnight heat
The traffic roars
And the sirens scream
You look at the faces, its just like a dream

Nobody know where you're going
Nobody cares where you've been

'Cause you belong to the city
You belong to the night
living in a river of darkness, beneath the neon light
You were born in the city
Concrete under your feet
It's in your blood, its in your moves
You're a man of the street

When you said goodbye
You were on the run
Tryin' to get away from the things you'd done
Now you're back again
And you're feeling strange
So much has happened, but nothing has changed

You still don't know where you're going
Your still just a face in the crowd

'Cause you belong to the city...

You can feel it
You can taste it
You can see it
You can face it
You can hear it
You're getting near it
You wanna make it
'Cause you can take it.

You belong to the city (etc. to fade out)

This song done by Glenn at the Eagles shows has to be one of the best songs done live that there is. The horn section intro, the driving beat, Glenn's voice, all make this a great concert song.


So That's How It Happens

SON SAYS: Daddy, how was I born?

DAD SAYS: Ah, well, my son, one day you will need to find out anyway!

Mom and Dad got together in a chat room on MSN. Dad set up a date
via e-mail with your mom and we met at a cyber cafe. We snuck into
a secluded room, and then your mother downloaded from dad's memory stick. As soon as dad was ready for an upload, it was discovered that neither one of us had used a fire-wall. Since it was too late to hit the delete button, nine months later the blessed little virus appeared and that's the story.


Gotta go do some tongue xercises in tribute to Gene Simmons. Have a great day all.

Red Oak

Message: 35153 Posted: Wed Aug 25 04:05:32 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re; Lightning Strikes


Glad you were finally able to find "I Saw the Light" down under, even if it was in the "My Girl" Soundtrack CD. Not too bad, at least you got a lot of other great classics from the 60's with it. Here is some trivia on "Do-Wah-Diddy" by Manfred Mann- It is a Brill Building classic, originally written for the Exciters (of "Tell Him" fame which hit #4 in 1962). "Do-Wah-Diddy" was written by the Barry-Greenwhich songwriting team ("Be My Baby", "Chapel of Love", "Leader of the Pack" fame), the Exciter's version languished at #78 in early 1964 and then Manfred Mann recorded it and took it to #1 later that summer. One of the great British Invasion classics.


Message: 35152 Posted: Wed Aug 25 03:46:02 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Todd Rundgren ( for Johnny)


Interesting trivia on Todd. I didn't know the bit about Liv Tyler being raised by Todd and Steven's Ex...Interesting trivia. Thanks for sharing it.

It's neat that two of your fellow classmates made it to the poster, and what a great idea to include fans on the poster. Back in the late 60's and 70's I didn't purchase any of Todd Rundgren's LPS,instead I bought the hits on 45 and I still have them- "We Got Get You A Woman", "Hello It's Me" (both versions) and "I Saw the Light". I later bought his Rhino multi disc anthology from the early 90's and I have a more recent single CD greatest hit compilation.

Sir Joe

Message: 35151 Posted: Wed Aug 25 00:30:25 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Lightning strikes

Sergio, thanks for the info. Totally agree about "I Saw The Light". A few years ago you couldn't get any of Todd's material on CD. The only way I could get this single was buying the 1991 Sony Music "My Girl" soundtrack. I must admit it has some good tracks on it...My Girl (Temptations) Do Wah Diddy Diddy (Manfred Mann) Bad Moon Rising (C>C>Revival) Good Lovin' (Rascals) Wedding Belle Blues (5th Dimension)and others.

Hi Anita, a couple of years ago I was talking to this bloke and he told me he had worked for the Australian Air Force at Richmond as a spraypainter. Why I said? Spraypainting where lightning had hit planes in flight and on fairly regular occasions. You learn something everyday.


Message: 35150 Posted: Tue Aug 24 22:22:15 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Todd Rundgren

Although I really like Todd Rundgren's hit songs, I have only one of his LPs, "Faithful". As a whole, I don't care much for it. For me, it falls into the category of a purchased album that was played only a couple of times. It contained two Beatles songs, "Rain" and "Strawberry Fields Forever".

You all probably know about Rundgren having been married to Steven Tyler's ex and Rundgren raising Tyler's actress daughter (Liv?) as his own and her not knowing her birth father was really Tyler until she was of an "older" age. Rundgren, I believe I heard on the radio, thought it was best to not inform her of the truth until she confronted him about it.

Anyway, regarding Rundgren's music, a high school classmate of mine told me Rundgren had an offer in one of his LPs that allowed his fans to mail in a form to have their name printed on the album sleeve of his next release. It turned out that the response was so overwhelming that the names were listed on a poster that came with the album. So two classmates, Jim Abbott and Larry Sweet, have their names on that poster. Does anyone have that poster?

Message: 35149 Posted: Tue Aug 24 18:19:30 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Lennon vs. Rundgren/Lennon immortalized on a Cuban park bench

That park in Havana, Cuba dedicated to "Lennon" is indeed an intresting peice of info. I would have never thought that of "Fidel Castro". That he would be a fan of "John Lennon"? "Strange days indeed..most parcular mama" (Lennon lyrics)
Mark M

Message: 35148 Posted: Tue Aug 24 17:21:05 2004 By: Anita
Subject: VFTHW-Sunrise

I just got back from moving my younger daughter back into school at the University of Miami -- exhausting! Our family frequently visits Miami/Ft. Lauderdale so I recognized the area the guys were in -- right near Sawgrass Mills, a gigantic shopping complex. Lots of thunderstorms down there today; our plane was held on the runway this afternoon in Ft. Lauderdale for over an hour, since they couldn't refuel with lightning in the area.

Message: 35147 Posted: Tue Aug 24 16:56:48 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Lennon vs. Rundgren/Lennon immortalized on a Cuban park bench

Good evening all!

Thanks for your assessment on Rundgren and Lennon. I totally agree with you and then some.

Mark M and Bluey, thanks for the info and your insight into the article. Here is my two cents...I was disappointed to find out that a "tiff" had existed between Lennon and Rundgren. How unfortunate! Musically there is no denying that Lennon is a heavyweight, where as Todd Rundgren, although talented, is a lightweight pop or technopop craftsman. But, Todd has his well deserved claim to fame secured, first with Nazz (Another weird name from the 60's, it was Todd Rundgren's quartet), their initial version of "Hello It's Me" was a memorable teen ballad back in my high school days, hugely popular in New Orleans where I live. It made for some great "slow dancin'". His later 70's lone version was excellent too. I have to disagree with those that put down "I Saw the Light" and here is why~ Melodically and lyrically it is a superbly crafted pop song in the "Carole King/Gerry Goffin" tradition. Its bouncy melody and clever lyrics is a throwback to the great rock/pop songs produced in the legendary Brill Building. It certainly brightened up my Summer of '72. For Lennon to just dismiss it in a derogatory way is myopic at best. I wonder if at the time of the interview, his heavy drug use had marred his memory, given he had written many a similar song with Paul just a decade before. i.e.,"This Boy", "World Without Love" (for Chad and Jeremy), "Bad To Me" (for Billy J.Kramer and the Dakotas), "I Don't Want to See you Again" (for Peter and Gordon), "Eight Days A Week", "Can't Buy Me Love", "From Me To You", and "Love Me Do" ( Melodically similar to Goffin/Kings' "Chains", a song The Beatles recorded as a tribute to Goffin/King). To these ears, there is no denying that these early Beatle songs were greatly influenced by the Brill Building songwriters and in the same way kindred to a great pop song such as "I Saw the Light".

Here is a bit of John Lennon trivia that hit close to home for me-A couple of years ago Fidel Castro posthumously bestowed John Lennon the dubious honor of dedicating a park in Havana, Cuba, in his memory. Now there is a great sculpture of Lennon sitting at a park bench where anyone can take a picture or "chat' with the rock legend. All this "love' for Lennon coming from Cuba's repressive and hypocritical Communist dictator who once banned the Beatles' music in 1960's Cuba for being subversive to his Revolution. However, in his dedication he proclaimed John's socialist vision and humanity. Ironically for me, this is the same park in Havana's once smart Vedado section, where my parents took me to play as a kid, a place I remember well, and have great and fond memories of, one that I gladly don't have to IMAGINE.


Message: 35146 Posted: Tue Aug 24 16:32:25 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: "Harbor"

I admitt I have never heard a "Todd Rundgren album" Just his hits and the few songs he done with "Ringo and the all Starr band". The ones I have heard I have found ok at best, except for "Hello it's me". It's a classic....I like "The Nazz version" better than Rundgrens solo version.
And yes...."Lennon" did have a sharp tongue.
Mark M

Message: 35145 Posted: Tue Aug 24 16:22:47 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Be Careful What You Ask For

Red, you still crack me up man !! Poof...her ears fell off !!
Your one of a kind.....
Mark M

Message: 35144 Posted: Tue Aug 24 16:01:30 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Love Handles

red oak....thanks red for that Monica joke, poor girl. Red, "Sacrifice" is off the 1989 "Sleeping With The Past" CD. The single was released in the UK in March, 1989 and did nothing. In June, 1990 they released it as a double A sided single with "Healing Hands" and the single stayed at No.1 in UK for five weeks. I think that was his first No.1 in UK. "Club At The End Of The Street" is also on the album. Thanks.

Nina, if you can remember the words to that song, "Eggplant", my Mum says I really shouldn't be talking to you!!!!! The Neil Diamond written "Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show" was released in January, 1969. I've got the lyrics to the song but that's about all I can tell you about it. The song is on the "The Greatest Hits 1966-1992" CD. If you wants the lyrics, let me know.

Mark, my favourite "live" medley is by Todd on his "Back To The Bars" double album - "I'm So Proud/Ooh Baby Baby/La La Means I Love You/I Saw The Light". The book, "The Love You Make" about The Beatles is excellent. Thanks mate.

Regards Bluey.

Message: 35143 Posted: Tue Aug 24 15:15:36 2004 By: Robsl
Subject: The Lonely Guy movie

Hi there everyone,
Jenna, you had mentioned about the Lonely Guy, the Steve Martin movie. I actually caught that movie on TV about a month ago, it was my first time seeing it. It's really a pretty good movie, especially for those of you who like Steve Martin's sense of humor. Steve Martin plays a down on his luck lonely guy who is just bouncing back from a breakup and deals with all of the typical trials and tribulations of returning to the single life with a sense of goofball humor that makes the movie worth watching. There are a couple of more intellectual jokes thrown in there also, for those of you who make like movies like Novocaine more than Martin's siller stuff. It's probably not Martin's best movie, but it's definitely pretty good, and it's nice that the America song was included on the soundtrack. This Gerry Beckley-sung song is featured right during the credits that open the movie. The movie also features some song by Glenn Frey also, I believe he is something of a friend to the guys from America. It is a good movie, and I would recommend it to anybody who enjoys a funny 80's movie with observations about life that are both hilarious and poignant. It has a very nice ending too, it's a tad on the syrupy side but i was kinda expecting that, and with my mindset expecting the syrup, it was really pretty decent for the ending. I bet Gerry and Dewey liked this movie when it came out, i'm kinda surprised the record company that released the soundtrack didn't put out a push at radio to get "Love Comes Without Warning" played a little bit. It's a pretty good song, might have gotten to the charts or somethin for a little bit.

Rob L

Message: 35142 Posted: Tue Aug 24 14:36:09 2004 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Lennon/Rundgren tiff

Bluey, sorry I'm not an xpert on anything, but I've never heard of Sacrifice by Elton John. I think his first US hit was "Your place or mine" sung with George Michael(formerly of Wham, Bam, Thank You Ma'am). Could be wrong, but "Your Song" had to be one of the first hits in the USA. As far as I'm concerned, you can ask all the Q's you want until you're Blue in the Face(no pun intended).

Take care,


Message: 35141 Posted: Tue Aug 24 14:13:04 2004 By: Nina
Subject: Re: Message to "Bluey"

Bluey, I DO remember that song! "You'd better watch out for,,,the eggplant that ate Chicago"! I didn't remember that it was recorded by "Dr. Hook's Travelling Medicine Show" though! What year was that? From the silly to the ridiculous: Do you remember Neil Diamond's song, "Brother Love's Travelling Salvation Show"? I used to love that song! Anyway, I can't prove it, but am convinced that it must have been written after Neil saw an episode of an old 60's television show called "The Big Valley". In it, Robert Goullet plays a travelling organ-playing preacher (con man) who comes to the valley to supposedly save some souls, all the while swindling the good valley folk out of their hard-earned money. The name of Goulet's character was "Brother Love". It remains one of my favorite episodes. (Why isn't that show on TV Land?)

Message: 35140 Posted: Tue Aug 24 13:00:05 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: "Harbor"

"Down to the Water" was on the B-side of "God of the Sun" which was the first US single off the Harbor album. I though "God of the Sun" was a great song, but it never charted in the US.

Btw, I like most of Todd Rundgren's stuff. It is mostly pop, but I think it is good. I also like most of Lennon's stuff too. Lennon at times tended to have a sharp tongue.

Message: 35139 Posted: Tue Aug 24 11:26:18 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: Love Comes Without Warning.

Speaking of "Love Comes Without Warning" has anyone here seen the Lonely Guy with Steve Martin lately? I caught part of it a few weeks ago and was hoping to hear the featured song. Unfortunately, I missed most of it since my small 4 neices and nephews were a little uncontrollable that day, but will have to see if it's still available to rent since I still have an ancient VCR. But many thanks to Steve for having so many clips and midi files available which I was able to check out. What a fabulous song and a great movie too! Yeah, it really does sound like an America or Gerry song.


Message: 35138 Posted: Tue Aug 24 07:51:21 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Be Careful What You Ask For

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 24, 2004

61 years ago - John Cipollina, guitar player for Quicksilver Messenger, is born. (1943)

60 years ago - Jim Capaldi, drummer and vocalist for Traffic, is born. (1944)

59 years ago - Ken Hensley, keyboardist and vocalist for Uriah Heep, celebrates a birthday. (1945)

45 years ago - A headline in Billboard reads, "Rock and Roll Ain't Ready For The Ol' Rockin' Chair Yet." The story says rock & roll was losing popularity a year ago, but the record buyers now like Elvis Presley, Fats Domino and Lloyd Price along with newcomers, the Drifters, Everly Brothers and Ricky Nelson. (1959)

45 years ago - Phil Phillips' "Sea Of Love" hits #2 on the pop charts. (1959)

41 years ago - Little Stevie Wonder is the first artist to make the Number One position on the pop single chart, the pop albums chart and the R&B singles chart all at one time. In fact, nobody had made the pop single and album charts at the same time. The music from "Wonder World" is the album, "The Twelve Year-Old-Genius" and the single, "Fingertips, Part Two." (1963)

40 years ago - The Beatles release "Matchbox/Slow Down." (1964)

37 years ago - The members of the Beatles meet with the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi for the first time in London. (1967)

37 years ago - Patti Harrison convinces her husband George and the rest of the Beatles to attend a lecture at the Park Lane Hilton given by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. They go and send a note to him requesting a private audience. In the meeting, the Beatles offer themselves as disciples. He accepts and invites them to an indoctrination course for spiritual regeneration two days later. They attend along with Mick Jagger and his girlfriend Marianne Faithfull. Brian Epstein is invited but declines. Afterwards, John Lennon compares the experience as "going somewhere without your trousers." (1967)

36 years ago - The Who's drummer, Keith Moon, drives a Lincoln into the pool of a Holiday Inn in Flint, Michigan. (1968)

36 years ago - Steppenwolf's "Born To Be Wild" hits #2 on the pop chart. (1968)

36 years ago - Billboard and New England's "New Musical Express" report rumors that have Diana Ross leaving the Supremes and going out on her own. (1968)

35 years ago - Arlo Guthrie's film "Alice's Restaurant" opens. (1969)

30 years ago - Santana's "Greatest Hits" LP enters the charts. (1974)

30 years ago - Grand Funk's "Shinin' On" peaks at #11 on the chart. (1974)

26 years ago - Bruce Springsteen appears on the cover of "Rolling Stone." (1978)

25 years ago - The Cars perform at New York's Central Park for an audience of a half million people. (1979)

23 years ago - John Lennon's killer, Mark David Chapman, is sentenced to prison for 20 years to life. Over the next few months, Chapman would claim many times to have been beaten by fellow inmates, some of whom allegedly tried to kill him with items like scissors. (1981)

22 years ago - The Rolling Stones' live version of "Time Is On My Side" from their live LP, "Still Life" is released as a single. (1982)

21 years ago - Jerry Lee Lewis' wife, Shawn, is found dead at the couple's Mississippi home. An autopsy reveals she died of a methadone overdose. (1983)

19 years ago - Heart's "What About Love" peaks at #10 on the singles chart. (1985)

15 years ago - The Who performs "Tommy" at the Universal Amphitheatre with special guests Steve Winwood, Elton John, Phil Collins, Patti LaBelle and Billy Idol. (1989)

14 years ago - Sinead O'Connor refuses to perform if the United States National Anthem is played before her show at the Garden State Arts Plaza in Homdel, New Jersey, as is custom. A patriotic uproar ensues and several radio stations ban her music. (1990)

13 years ago - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers' "Learning To Fly" hits #28 on the pop singles chart. (1991)

10 years ago - Pearl Jam drummer Dave Abruzzese quits the band. He reportedly wants to study music formally. He's replaced by Jack Irons. (1994)


Grand Funk Railroad - Loco Motion

Everybody's doin' a brand-new dance, now
(Come on baby, do the Loco-motion)
I know you'll get to like it if you give it a chance now
(Come on baby, do the Loco-motion)
My little baby sister can do it with me;
It's easier than learning your A-B-C's,
So come on, come on, do the Loco-motion with me.
You gotta swing your hips, now. Come on, baby.
Jump up. Jump back. Well, now, I think you've got the knack.

Now that you can do it, let's make a chain, now.
(Come on baby, do the Loco-motion)
A chug-a chug-a motion like a railroad train, now.
(Come on baby, do the Loco-motion)
Do it nice and easy, now, don't lose control:
A little bit of rhythm and a lot of soul.
So come on, come on, do the Loco-motion with me.

Move around the floor in a Loco-motion.
(Come on baby, do the Loco-motion)
Do it holding hands if you get the notion.
(Come on baby, do the Loco-motion)
There's never been a dance that's so easy to do.
It even makes you happy when you're feeling blue,
So come on, come on, do the Loco-motion with me.


Be Careful What You Ask For

Monica Lewinsky was looking at herself in a mirror. Her frustration over her lack of ability to lose weight was depressing her. In an act of desperation, she decided to call on God for help. "God, if You take away my love handles, I'll devote my life to You," and (*Poof*) just like that..... her ears fell off!


Now ya know

Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, police aren't allowed to walk up and knock on a car window. Any officer who suspects that sex is taking place must drive up from behind, honk his horn 3 times, and wait approximately 2 minutes before getting out of his car to investigate.

Have a wonderful day.......... Remember, no LOCOMOTION in the car, HaHaHa


Message: 35137 Posted: Tue Aug 24 04:56:58 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Lennon/Rundgren tiff

G'Day MarkM. Yeah I finally found the article, thanks mate.

Moser, the way I got into the site was, log onto Yahoo then typing in John Lennon and Todd Rundgren. When the page comes, go into Site 4 - Lennon and Rundgren and you'll get the full interviews by Ailan Jones, Melody Maker in 1974.

Yeah Mark M, Old Todd didn't hold back did when he said, "John Lennon ain't no revolutionary. He's a f****** idiot,man. Shouting about revolution and acting like an ass......Hitting a waitress in the Troubador. What kind of revolution is that?" (Extract from interview) John's Lennon reply is reasonably lengthy and acidy. Very good reading considering that Todd is now a very strong fan of John Lennon. Yeah Mark, put it this way, I've got his Greatest Hits CD and "Back To The Bars" but you really have to blend into his style and I only get about a third of the way there. "Bat Out Of Hell", well to me it's Jim Steinman, Meat Loaf and Todd with just a great, powerful bunch of songs. I heard recently that Todd sold his 10% holdings in that album!

red oak: Red, you're the expert on your stats so I'm just enquiring about something. I thought that Elton John's first No.1 hit in U.S. was "Sacrifice", either that or "Sacrifice" was his first No.1 in England. A bloke can't get into too trouble just asking one little question, can he?

Thanks Bluey.

Message: 35136 Posted: Tue Aug 24 03:39:07 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: "Harbor"

I went to the Rundgren site and found the parts of the letters from both "Rundgren and Lennon". I have never heard of this till now.
My thoughts are, it sounds like Rundgren really owed the man an apology if you ask me. I admitt Lennon was a bit of an extremist...but, at least he tryed to make a difference.
I have to agree with with John on one thing....from what I have heard of Rundgrens music, it is pretty bland.
Mark M

Message: 35135 Posted: Mon Aug 23 23:48:14 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: "Harbor"

Hi everyone, thanks for your imput about band names. Can anyone remember this single I used to have years ago, I hope I got it right, Artist -"Dr Hook's Travelling Medicine Show" (condensed to Dr Hook?) and the song - "The Eggplant That Ate Chicago" - I know, who cares? Just thought I would ask! Actually sorry I asked.

Hi Moser, about 2 months ago I went into one of Todd Rundgren's webs and linked to link to link (got lost!) and saw one heading about John Lennon's Open Letter to Todd. Apparently, I think, in one of Todd's interviews he was reported as saying something about Bealtes music being relevant to today's music scene. I didn't read the interview but I read John Lennon's open letter. He called Todd's song "I Saw The Light" his 3 minutes of fame but said he liked the song but then he began calling it Todd's music, "pussy" music. That's why I thought I would go back in and read the original interview but I just can't find it. Sorry, I only mentioned it because of the America "Hope" video being on his site.

Talking about singles from America's album, when Harbor came out, our radio stations were playing "Down To The Water" for awhile. Was that song released as a single in the U.S.? Actually when I first heard it, I just didn't get it but I really enjoy the song now.

Regards Bluey.

Message: 35134 Posted: Mon Aug 23 20:39:46 2004 By: Robsl
Subject: Live drumming vs. drum machines

I just wanted to second that on the fact that drum machines are not as cool as live drumming. Word, Andy, Kevin, others. Willie Leacox is a brilliant drummer, one of the best i've seen perform, and he always seems to be in the pocket on studio recordings too. I also dig the guy they had before Willie joined up, the guy who is on the first album. I'm trying to remember who that is, he's cool even though he only appears on a few of the songs. And also the famous Hal Blaine is great on drums on the Homecoming album.
Just my opinion, i just think that live drumming sounds a lot better. The only parts of the Human Nature album that i felt suffered from bad production where the parts where the drum machine was used, and especially where it was manipulated to be a central part of the sound. It fits in rather inobtrusively on "Oloololo" which i enjoyed. An example of drum machine being too central is "Ports of Call" from Hourglass which , okay, it's supposed to just be for fun in the first place but the drum machine just makes it a bit too tinny for my tastes. I am one of those fans who always enjoyed the more rootsy songs by America, the ones that draw from the rock/folk traditions.

Rob L.

Message: 35133 Posted: Mon Aug 23 19:56:57 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: 1-800-WLEACOX.

<<Must be long distance from Sherman Oaks.>>

The message was sent via carrier pigeon. He must have lost his way. Has anyone seen him? His name is Fred.

Message: 35132 Posted: Mon Aug 23 19:01:37 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Love Comes Without Warning.

Drum machines have their place....It's called "Techno". There is no place for them in real music !!
Mark M

Message: 35131 Posted: Mon Aug 23 18:45:02 2004 By: KevinS.
Subject: 1-800-WLEACOX.

Must be long distance from Sherman Oaks.


Message: 35130 Posted: Mon Aug 23 18:29:06 2004 By: Andy
Subject: Re: Love Comes Without Warning.

"I agree that these were America's two weakest albums, but as much as I think they were a total departure, I acually enjoy Your Move. I think My Dear is one of the coolest songs ever written. I love the way it was produced."
I agree with you, Kevin. The funny thing is that the first few times I listened to MY DEAR, I found it revolting. I would always pass it by on my way to the wonderful SOMEDAY WOMAN. For some reason, something snapped in my head from one moment to the next, and I fell in love with the song. It wasn't even a gradual progression, it was a sudden bolt of lightning. I remember being glued to Gerry's backing vocals, I guess that's what pulled me in.

As for drum machines, I feel the same way. They belong under steam rollers, or Hummers. I especially cringe when I hear an otherwise nice song get butchered by some drum machine that sounds like a rejected toy from Radio Shack, circa 1980. Blech! My solution? Dial 1-800 W Leacox. There. Instant relief.

Message: 35129 Posted: Mon Aug 23 08:52:04 2004 By: CJ
Subject: Re: America Ring Tones....

Hey, John - availability depends on your service provider and type of phone - what'd you get? Maybe I can help get you in the right direction!?!

Chris - Cleveland

Message: 35128 Posted: Mon Aug 23 07:55:29 2004 By: John
Subject: America Ring Tones....

This wrinkly 53 year old has recently decided to get up-to-date and acquired a new mobile phone with camera, sound record facilities.
This is probably old hat to most readers but its great to have recorded a few opening bars of Ventura and Moving Train to use as ring tones. As these are recorded the traditional way (holding it in front of a hifi speaker!) so qulaity is adequate but notgreat. Does anyone know the whereabouts of any America ringtone download websites please?

Is anyone else doing anything similar?



Message: 35127 Posted: Mon Aug 23 07:53:41 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Elephants and Donkeys

<<Time to cruise campus and see what's new on the first day of class.>>

Try not to get arrested, RO.

Message: 35126 Posted: Mon Aug 23 06:50:03 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Elephants and Donkeys

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 23, 2004

57 years ago - Keith Moon, drummer for the Who, is born. He died in 1978. (1947)

55 years ago - Rick Springfield is born. (1949)

53 years ago - Survivor vocalist Jim Jamison is born. (1951)

43 years ago - Stone Temple Pilots guitarist Dean De Leo is born. (1961)

42 years ago - John Lennon marries Cynthia Powell at the Mount Pleasant Registry Office in Liverpool. Paul and George are the only ones there. John was a local celebrity and the couple's hope to keep the marriage quiet was dashed when they were spotted coming out of the registry office. The couple first denied the marriage but later admitted it. Their son Julian, was born April 8, 1963. (1962)

39 years ago - When hundreds of Rolling Stone fans show up to wait for the group at a BBC TV taping in Manchester, police hose them down. (1965)

38 years ago - The Beatles arrive in the Big Apple for their concert at Shea Stadium. Two young female fans of the group threaten to jump from the 22nd floor of the Americana Hotel unless they see the group. Police rescue them and three days later the two are charged with disorderly conduct. (1966)

36 years ago - Aretha Franklin's "Lady Soul" earns a gold LP while the Rascals' "People Got to Be Free" is awarded a gold 45. (1968)

36 years ago - The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Big Brother and the Holding Company and Soft Machine play at the New York Rock Festival in Flushing Meadows, Queens. (1968)

36 years ago - The Rascals' "People Got To Be Free" is awarded a gold record. (1968)

36 years ago - Ringo Starr temporarily quits The Beatles. (1968)

35 years ago - "Honky Tonk Women" by The Rolling Stones hits #1 on the pop chart. (1969)

35 years ago - The Who's "I'm Free" peaks at #37 on the chart.

35 years ago - Blind Faith's self-titled debut album enters the chart. It will eventually hit #1. (1969)

35 years ago - Crosby, Stills and Nash's "Marrakesh Express" peaks at #28 on the chart, while Chicago's "Questions 67 & 68" peaks at #71. (1969)

34 years ago - After a gig at the legendary New York club Max's Kansas City, Lou Reed leaves The Velvet Underground, essentially ending the group. (1970)

32 years ago - The Looking Glass' "Brandy (You're A Fine Girl)" hits #1 on the pop chart. (1972)

30 years ago - Drummer Max Weinberg joins Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band. (1974)

29 years ago - Former Free guitarist Paul Kossof's heart stops beating for 35 minutes at London's Northwick Park Hospital. A blood clot in his leg reached his heart which put him in a coma and then his kidneys shut down. He survives it all and goes back to his group, Back Street Crawler. Unfortunately, his health problems do catch up to him and he dies in his sleep on a transatlantic flight the following March. (1975)

29 years ago - War's "Why Can't We Be Friends?" peaks at #6 on the pop chart. (1975)

29 years ago - Fleetwood Mac's self titled LP enters the charts. It's the band's first album with Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks. (1975)

24 years ago - David Bowie tops the British chart for the first time in 5 years with "Ashes To Ashes." (1980)

24 years ago - AC/DC's "Black In Black" LP enters the charts. It's the band's first album with new lead singer Brian Johnson and also their most popular, selling over 10 million. (1980)

24 years ago - The Heatwave Festival, a show being billed as the new-wave Woodstock, is held in Ontario, Canada. Acts include The Talking Heads, the Pretenders and Elvis Costello. (1980)

18 years ago - Billy Joel's LP "The Bridge" enters the album charts. The album featured two top-10 hits, "Modern Woman" and "A Matter Of Trust." (1986)

14 years ago - Singer Billy Idol begins a tour in Montreal -- this just six months after almost losing his leg in a motorcycle accident. (1990)

11 years ago - Duran Duran get a star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame. (1993)


The Rascals - People Got To Be Free

All the world over, so easy to see
People everywhere just wanna be free
Listen, please listen, that's the way it should be
Deep in the valley, people got to be free

You should see what a lovely, lovely world this'd be
Everyone learned to live together, ah-hah-unh
Seems to me such an itty bitty thing should be
Why can't you and me learn to love one another?

All the world over, so easy to see
People everywhere just wanna be free
I can't understand it, so simple to me
People everywhere just got to be free

If there's a man who is down and needs a helpin' hand
All it takes is you to understand and to pull him through, ah-hah-unh
Seems to me we got to solve it individually, ah-hah-unh
And I'll do unto you what you do to me

Shout it from the mountain on out to the sea (out to the sea)
No two ways about it, people have to be free
Ask me my opinion, my opinion will be
Nat'ral situation for a man to be free


The Difference Between Republicans and Democrats

A Republican and a Democrat were walking down the street when they came to a homeless person. The Republican gave the homeless person his business card and told him to come to his business for a job. He then took twenty dollars out of his pocket and gave it to the homeless person.

The Democrat was very impressed, and when they came to another homeless person, he decided to help. He walked over to the homeless person and gave him directions to the welfare office. He then reached into the Republican's pocket and got out twenty dollars. He kept 15 for himself (administrative fees) and gave the homeless person five.

Now you understand the difference between Republicans and Democrats


Here are the Number One Songs this week
in Chicago during the 50's, 60's and 70's

Week of August 22 Year Song Artist
1956 The Flying Saucer (Parts 1 & 2) Buchanan & Goodman
1957 Tammy Debbie Reynolds
1958 Little Star Elegants
1959 It Was I Skip and Flip
1960 It's Now Or Never Elvis Presley
1961 Michael Highwaymen
1962 Breaking Up Is Hard To Do Neil Sedaka
1963 My Boyfriend's Back Angels
1964 Where Did Our Love Go Supremes
1965 I Got You Babe Sonny and Cher
1966 Summer In The City Lovin' Spoonful
1967 It Could Be We're In Love Cryan' Shames
1968 People Got To Be Free Rascals
1969 Honky Tonk Women Rolling Stones
1970 Spill The Wine Eric Burdon & War
1971 Riders On The Storm Doors
1972 Alone Again (Naturally) Gilbert O'Sullivan
1973 Brother Louie Stories
1974 The Night Chicago Died Paper Lace
1975 Someone Saved My Life Tonight Elton John
1976 Don't Go Breaking My Heart Elton John & Kiki Dee
1977 I Just Want To Be Your Everything Andy Gibb
1978 Miss You Rolling Stones
1979 My Sharona Knack
1980 Magic Olivia Newton-John


Time to cruise campus and see what's new on the first day of class.

Red Oak

Message: 35125 Posted: Mon Aug 23 04:58:20 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Love Comes Without Warning/That's Weird

<<...and can't seem to shake it. Like a really bad virus.>>

<<If something else comes up, prepare for the end of the world.>>

Sometimes, KevinS., you really make me laugh. Thanks for the good Monday AM start me up.


Message: 35124 Posted: Mon Aug 23 04:53:33 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Back From Holidays

Regards to you too, Bluey. Thanks for your support of Mistaken Twins' future recordings. I don't think you'll have to worry about saving up to buy their first release yet since they're still in elementary school!! But I appreciate the vote of confidence on their behalf.

What was Lennon's problem with Rundgren? I don't know about that and it sounds interesting. Could you elaborate?

Congrats on the current and future Grand Babies.

Happy Monday Everyone,

Message: 35123 Posted: Mon Aug 23 03:33:51 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Back From Holidays

Hi everyone, been away for a couple days visiting my son and wife up at Taree. Fu=irst little

Hi everyone, been away for a few day visitng my son and his wife up at Taree. They are expecting their child in a few months. My eldest son and his wife had their first child, a boy, Thomas Patrick, two months ago. Prams, nappies, burps and blurps...thank God that's over for me.

Hi Moser, that word "twins" just sends a shudder. My second son was supposed to be twin. Remember the movie TWINS with Arnie and Danny De Vito, I just loved the one line promo----"Only their mother can tell them apart"----If the kids record something, I'll buy it, sound unsighted!!!!

I just went into the Todd Rundgren site and what video is available on his site?----"Hope" by America...can't get away from them!!
What I was trying to find was the open letter to Todd Rundgren from John Lennon when Lennon was really pissed off with Todd. Makes interesting reading. It's on the site somewhere for you buffs to find!

Two band names:- 1) Black Cat Bones (in The Pretty Things site)
and 2) Captain Matchbox Whoopee Band with their song
"My Canary Has Circles Under His Eyes'
In Oz during the 60s we had a band called "Company Caine" with a song called "The Day Superman Got Busted". It was a crap song but what really got broadcasters and censors going was the fact that if you shortened "Company" you get "Co" (just like businesses do) so you got "CoCaine" - banned.

Regards Bluey

Message: 35122 Posted: Sun Aug 22 22:14:48 2004 By: KevinS.
Subject: That's weird.

Hey, that's the weirdes thing I've ever seen. Somehow, when I hit Post Your Message, the subject of my post changed from what I typed, which was "Your Move & Perspective" to "Love Comes Without Warning." How the hell it did that, I have no clue. The subject of this is "That's Weird." If something else comes up, prepare for the end of the world.

Message: 35121 Posted: Sun Aug 22 22:10:53 2004 By: KevinS.
Subject: Love Comes Without Warning.

I agree that these were America's two weakest albums, but as much as I think they were a total departure, I acually enjoy Your Move. I think My Dear is one of the coolest songs ever written. I love the way it was produced.

My problem with those two records is that America is still somewhat stuck in that mode when it comes to production. Gerry seems to have fallen in love with the electronic drums machines and some other gizmo tickery that defined that era, and can't seem to shake it. Like a really bad virus.

Let's not forget that, while Your Move was Russ Ballard's, Perspective was produced by Gerry and Dewey. That's on their permanent record.


I think Hangover would have been huge, too.

Message: 35120 Posted: Sun Aug 22 20:23:32 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: Should Be Doing Something Else But...

Good topic Mo,and it made me do some digging. I'm not gonna comment on all of the albums,but here are some thoughts: From "Harbor",there were 2 singles released: "Don't Cry Baby"(backed with "Monster")and "God of the sun" backed with "down to the Water." thinking back to my '85 interview with Dan...he thought "Don't Cry Baby" should have done better. nothing from "Harbor" made the Billboard Hot 100,but they may have charted AC. I've yet to purchase that book.
From "Silent Letter","All My life"/"One Morning" has always been a favorite 45 of mine,as both of those songs I like. "Only Game in town" was backed with "High In the City." So...those were the lone two U.S. releases from that album.And again...neither made the Hot 100. Out of "Alibi" came "You could've been the one"(Capitol P-4915)which never charted==But remains my favorite from that LP. The Japanese 45 featured "Catch that train" as the flip side. I happen to enjoy a number of songs from "Your Move",especially the title track--very bouncy and poppy! But following "The Border" came the single release for "Cast the Spirit"(B/W "My dear"). That never made the Hot 100 either. As for "Perspective"...I remember Dewey telling me in an interview once that he was never fond of the single "Special girl" as the first release from that LP. But some record label exec had convinced him it would be a hit,so they went with it. That song never made the Hot 100,but did chart at #15 on the AC Charts. The 45 was backed by "Unconditional Love." To this day I still believe that "Can't Fall asleep to a lullabye" is that records best song. It did make the R&R AC charts,but alas...never charted on the Hot 100,even though Steve Perry co-wrote and sang on it. And he was fairly Hot at the time with his own solo album and his work with Journey. Another fine choice from "Perspective" is "We got all night" which the guys were also doing in concert for a time.
So...there were a number of singles released from the various albums,but for whatever reason,failed to generate any airplay or sales.

Message: 35119 Posted: Sun Aug 22 20:01:14 2004 By: TommieGirl
Subject: Re: Should Be Doing Something Else

"Your Move" and "Perspective" had their moments... especially if you liked that whole "80's thing," and I was the right age for most of it, God save me. I didn't think they were bad albums. I just didn't think that they sounded like America.

Message: 35118 Posted: Sun Aug 22 18:27:42 2004 By: Alan
Subject: Re: Should Be Doing Something Else


I had a very similar experience to yours. I also lost track of America (and a lot of music) during the 80s. Only I didn't rediscover America until I saw them again in 1998 at the Mohegan Sun - exactly 20 years after I saw them live for the first time. They played 3 songs from Human Nature at the show (FAMT, Wheels and Wednesday Morning). Loved those songs, so I went out and bought HN. That is how I reconnected. I then went out and bought (over a period of time) everything I was missing on CD. I have to agree that, while there are a couple gems on Your Move and Perspective, I wasn't overly impressed. But then again, I wasn't overly impressed by much music that came out of the 80's. I actually NEVER listen to Perspective and only seldom to Your Move. However, I keep them in my collection out of loyalty to the greatest band on the face of the earth.


Message: 35117 Posted: Sun Aug 22 16:14:03 2004 By: Nina
Subject: Re: Should Be Doing Something Else

I know this is going to sound odd, considering my love of all things "America", but I was luckily spared the disappointment of both "Your Move" and "Perspective" in the 80's. I actually lost track of the band during that time, and although I occassionally searched the record and cassette racks, there wasn't anything to buy! I think I logged only 2 America concerts during the entire era! (These days I get bummed out if I can only see them twice a year!) (Thank god for the internet and this site!) I would have to agree that, although those 2 records contain a couple of gems, generally there's not much offered to howl at the moon about. Makes me sort of glad I was in the dark about most of those songs. I actually remember the joy of rediscovery in the 90's, when after a concert in Boston, I casually checked the casette racks and found a NEW America release! The excitement of taking it home and the anticipation of listening to what had been going on with "my boys", through their music. (Hourglass) It was all there. Between the songs and the liner notes, it was like catching up with old friends.

Message: 35116 Posted: Sun Aug 22 15:08:12 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: VFTHW - Sunrise

Thanks Gerry for the photo! A nice bonus in a quiet month, looks like a lovely sunny day in Florida... great beach weather too. Always love seeing the Palm Trees and the greenery.


Message: 35115 Posted: Sun Aug 22 13:16:18 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: VFTHW ~Sunrise : ) & Should Be Doing Something Else But...

Yep Me Again :) Such a Gorgeous Wall to Wall Blue Eyes Sky here today, with Little Cotton Ball Mountains floating ever sooo Slowly! My Clothesline is filled to the max and Missy Maytag is Smiling cause I'm Not Neglecting Her! LOL! :)

Wow ~~Triple Wowsers ~~Thanks Gerry for the Nice Surprise! ~~ Hmmm~ Sunrise huh! What a neat name for a City in Fla... Too much seeing a Sam's Club sign in your pic, I was just saying to hubby as I was making lunch today, that I wonder if Sam's Club sales the Chineese Shrimp Egg Rolls in a Big Package... I was soooooo Hungry for these today! ~~Could You stop in and check this out for me :) Thanks a Bunch! ~~ Soooooooo Great to see a Pic from You! ~~ Safe traveling! :)

Hmmmm ~~ Regarding the "Your Move" & "Perspective" albums... I Love the Fun Romantic Magic found in these songs, and even tho they weren't by Gerry & Dewey for the most part, they still worked their Magic nicely on these songs. Yes DanC they both are just that "80 MATERIAL" :) ~~ I would have loved to hear "5th Avenue", Cinderella, Can't Fall Asleep to a Lullabye, My Dear, Special Girl, Your Move, Honey, Tonight is for Dreamers, Runaway ... I always enjoyed hitting the replay on both of these Cassettes and that I did I wore each of them out, Boy am I glad Ihad bought double of both of them... I have been wanting to put my cassettes of these on cd's ....

Hmmmm ~ Johnny ~~ Just a Glance my way from Keith Urban would be Nice... I too saw the short segment about Richard Marx & Brad Paisley... you mentioning this got me to wonderin if Richard Marx's new cd has been released yet, the last time I checked his brand new homepage it said this would all come to be in Aug. and here it is well past the middle of Aug...

Bones Oooooooh Bones ~~ Toto is here singing 99! I Love this song! :)

Hey Red ~~ Mark Martin has had the Lead Lap for alot of the race up in Michigan... I bet he has his Viagra sponsors all a Smilin, they are probably Hopin He Can Keep it Up Lonnnnnnng Enough to Win this race. Hmmm ~ He has won at this track afew times before... :);)~~ My Daughter,son &I watched the movie "What a Girl Wants" with Amanda from the Nickelodian channel... 4 times this weekend... Such a Cute Movie... and I love getting to hear Duncan Sheik sing his Magic Gem he wrote for this soundtrack, ~~~Maybe I need to see the Daylight,leave behind the Half-Life, don't you see I'm breaking down here, Oooooooh lately I wanna see the daylight, save meeee from this Half-Life, come on Let's fall in Love, Againnnnn! Sing it Duncan, this is one of those Lighthearted Fun Romantic Movie songs... :):);)


Message: 35114 Posted: Sun Aug 22 12:31:23 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Should Be Doing Something Else But...

I agree that these albums in general, were a low point of "Americas" recordings. But, to say they were throw aways I don't agree on.
I enjoy these albums and I am sure many of us do.
I think one song from "Prspective" that might have been a hit is "Can't fall asleep to a lullaby". I love it !
Another from "You move" could have been "Someday woman".
Mark M

Message: 35113 Posted: Sun Aug 22 12:22:31 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: "Human Nature" Autographed CD

If anyone is interested in purchasing an autographed copy of "Human Nature," please let me know. I bought it off the Home Shopping Network when D&G were promoting it. It's still factory sealed. It was originally $20 with shipping and handling but I'll part with it for $15 and I'll pay the shipping (if within the US).

I still have about 7 mint "Hearts" songbooks and 1 mint "Hideaway" songbook for $10 each plus shipping.


Message: 35112 Posted: Sun Aug 22 12:05:33 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Should Be Doing Something Else But... (Correction)

That should have been #33 (not #3) on the Pop chart.

Message: 35111 Posted: Sun Aug 22 12:01:44 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Should Be Doing Something Else But...

Concerning "My Dear", of all the songs from "Your Move", it's my least favorite sung by Dewey. After all, "The Border" didn't make it to #4 on the Adult Contemporary chart and #3 on the Pop chart for nothing.

Message: 35110 Posted: Sun Aug 22 11:35:24 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Should Be Doing Something Else But...

That's 80s MATERIAL. DanC.

Message: 35109 Posted: Sun Aug 22 11:34:15 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Should Be Doing Something Else But...

Mo, I could not agree more with your last paragraph. I don't think I've ever read a more precise account (my opinion) of America's 80s marerial. Nancy, sorry to say I did not catch the first half of that show. I was just channel surfing on Saturday night (no life?) and happened on Rodney Crowell. DanC.

Message: 35108 Posted: Sun Aug 22 11:10:34 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - Sunrise

Click here to see the view from Gerry's hotel window in Sunrise, FL.

Message: 35107 Posted: Sun Aug 22 11:09:06 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: July pics, From Down Under & austin city limits (An Added Comment)

And Marx replied that for a newcomer to the music scene, Paisley has a lot of nerve saying what he said.

Message: 35106 Posted: Sun Aug 22 10:51:00 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: July pics, From Down Under & austin city limits

<<...for a country western singer, he [Keith Urban] works nice magic on his songs....>>

I bet Keith Urban would say something like, "Thanks, I think."

That reminds me of a TV show I recently saw on CMT about some of the biggest feuds in country music. It pertained to Richard Marx and Brad Paisley.

Paisley made a comment about the difference between a country music artist and a pop artist as he sees it. Paisley said for a country artist it's about the song; whereas, for a pop artist it's about the production. Paisley's comment sent Marx into a rage. Where it went from there, I'm not quite sure other than Paisley saying he listened to a lot of Marx's music as a teenager and he was surprised that his comment upset Marx and that he didn't intend to offend anyone.

Message: 35105 Posted: Sun Aug 22 10:47:12 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Should Be Doing Something Else But...

Thanks for the Australia radio interview, Steve, Greg, Lili, and Jordan. That was a nice treat.

Someone on the other board asked what songs from each of the albums we thought should have been released as singles. I spent far too much time on this beautiful Sunday afternoon sampling through all of the CD's to compile my list. It's posted on the other site. But, while I was doing that, I had a few thoughts I wanted to post here.

There were clearly some mis-steps in singles' selection at some points. You've got to wonder if it was midjudgement on the label's part or on the guys' part. I'm guessing the record company had more say than the artist. Right or not? Or, perhaps it was a more democratic approach in that they each kind of had a turn to have their songs released to have a chance to be a hit and sometimes it worked and sometimes not. In the early years, they had the most success, obviously, so the single selections are hard to argue with. I wouldn't have picked different singles during that era but I would perhaps have picked additional singles to follow-up the existing hits. Why not one or two more from America or Homecoming? And when Hat Trick, Hideaway, and Harbor didn't have huge hits with their initial releases, why not try something else? Like, "Okay, we goofed, let's try this instead."

The single from Harbor should clearly have been Sergeant Darkness which apparently wasn't released in any form. It is head and shoulders above the rest. Also from that album, I see that Sarah was the B-side of Slow Down while Monster was the B-side of Don't Cry Baby. Both of those singles would have done better if the the A and B sides were interchanged.

From Alibi, why wouldn't you release Survival domestically when it had done so well in Europe or Italy or wherever? And Coastline is in a similar genre to Christopher Cross's 'Sailing' which did phenomenally well that same year. Hangover is a great song that might have really done well on the radio. Sort of an early "I've Got Friends In Low Places" which is a huge party anthem even for those with an aversion to county music (me).

It seems like for View, Your Move, and Perspective they made and released songs just to get a hit. They weren't really releasing the few songs that were actually America music. You Can Do Magic was a hit, granted, but it wasn't their music. Then for the next two albums they tried to mine that same gold. Your Move's only decent song is My Dear, the rest could have just stayed on the drawing board. Same goes for all of Perspective--the whole darn thing. We all have identity crises. That era, in my estimation, was America's identity crisis. Thank goodness Hourglass and Human Nature were a return to actual America music and a reaffirmation that what they do best, they could still do.

Message: 35104 Posted: Sun Aug 22 10:21:08 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Jewish Baby

Yea, Peter Frampton at the Garden 27 years ago. I was there! Show me the way...

Red, did your hand raise?

Message: 35103 Posted: Sun Aug 22 08:15:14 2004 By: Shirley
Subject: From Down Under

Just listened to the interview and cracked up when I heard someone vote to play "Muskrat Love." "Between you and me - no chance." We all enjoy Hearing it from America - but Captain and Tenille's version was sooooo overplayed on the radio. I guess that sort of ruined the song for me forever.

Message: 35102 Posted: Sun Aug 22 07:24:04 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: July pics, From Down Under & austin city limits

Hi Hoooo Everyone :) ~~~ Someday I'm gonna run across your mind, but don't worry about me.. I'll be fine, I'm gonna be alright, while you're sleeping with your pride, wishing you were holding me tight.. I'll be gone ~~ Hey DanC did you happen to catch the first half of the austin city limits show... by chance did you get to hear Keith Urban sing this song called "You'll Think Of Me"??? Wow I sure wished I would have turned on this show in time to hear him, I really like his songs along with his voice and accoutical touch... I just watched one of his shows on CMT last teusday night, and he sang all of his nice songs for me... Wooooooo Sing them again Keith ~ Keith ~Keith :) (for a country western singer, he works nice magic on his songs) Hmmmm ~ Regarding this Rodney Crowell, I had read your post and then switched the channel in time to hear him do 4 songs... as I listened to him play I couldn't quite put my finger on what was familiar about his all around performance, then as I listened to the brief interview with him at the end of the show, I knew the moment he said that he was influenced by Johnny Cash's songs ever since he was a young boy, that,that was what I could see in his style... I also heard him say that he ended up meeting Johnny's oldest daughter Roseanne, and that they got married, he said about 8 yrs into the marriage Johnny looked at him and said that it was okay for him to relax now (something like this,not sure of exact words here) ~~Sorry my mind kinda got sidetracked by Timothy B & Jackson Browne singing their duo version of thte great song "Let It Be Me" there.... :) ~~Anyhow he sure could make that guitar sing nicely, couldn't he??? :)

Thanks Steve L for sharing all the great pics with us, they brought lots of late night smiles my way for sure! ~~Nice to see those Inside Heart Smiles a shinin on you and your wife's faces, as well as your daughter & her friend... :) ~~I gotta say I was loving the Blue in your pics from the Layton show... I loved the way it accented Gerry, Dewey nicely... :) Thanks also for posting the Down Under info & interview, I downloaded it & hit the replay button on it a couple of times ... I Loved hearing this Angela Catone's(sorry if spelled wrong)accent... That was interesting to hear the song requests & questions brought up by the listeners.. It's always great to get to listen to Gerry & Dewey in these interviews... as always that comfortableness is in their voices and answers... Nice :) :) :)

A BIG Thank You to Goanna (Greg, Lili &Jordan) for sharing this with us! I enjoyed reading the newspaper article too... I just gotta say, as I have said many a time before on here, that I love how others all around the world Appreciate "AMERICA'" Magic as much as we do.... :) Cheers Goanna ~I hope all is well there with you & yours! Hmmm ~A couple of weekends ago, we went to the Pittsburgh Zoo and there was a big Underground Aquariam there and I got to see one of these speckled lizards that is found there in the outback, a smile came to my face as I remembered asking you what your user name meant... too much huh! :)

I am listening to the interview again right now, Gerry just asked this one listener if he remembered Harry Nielson, the late Harry Nielson, joining them on stage at their show there in Oz back in the early 80's... Angela just put on Sister Golden Hair and said "Feel free to sing along Gentleman" both Gerry & Dewey kinda chuckled... and now Gerry is singing, ~~~I just can't live without you, I
ve been one poor correspondent, I've been too tooo hard to find, but it doesn't mean that you ain't been on my mind ~~~ By the excitement in Angela's I can tell she Loved having this opportunity to interview them... Gidday to all of our OZ New Zealand fans!!!!! :) :)

Hi Hooo Reddddddd ~~ I gotta kick out of reading that REM sued Hershey Foods for their using their Kit Kat candybar in a REM Show Sweepstakes contest... 2222 much! :) ;) ~~The Nascar race is up in Michigan today, hopefully Mr Sun will be present at the race, Mr Rain played havoc on the time trials friday... Ouch... Put the Pedal to the Medal Rusty! Shine Nicely on one of Your Sponsors home race track! ~~I sure do Love getting a Glimpse of Rusty's Nice Dimple too! :) ;)

Well we got Adam all moved in, and we had a nice supper together at the Ponderosa Steak House before leaving him there, and us heading back home.. One AMERICA tie in to our day of moving Adam in... I saw a Lady with an "AMERICA" t-shirt on walking down the sidewalk ~You Can betcha that brought a Smile to my face and it automatically hit the replay button in my Memory Banks, to April 1, 2003 and to all The Magic that Special Night Held for Me,Mo & Sheldon! :) :) :)

Take care all and enjoy your day! See Ya, Nancy :)

~~~ 4 O'Clock in the morning, my mind's filled with 1,000 thoughts of You ~~~ now I see it soooo clearly, when we're beginning to live seperate lives..... Noo I won't let go, of what we can be, I won't watch my Life crashing down on me, Yes I had it all their right before my eyes... Sing it Leanne Rimes & Ronan Keating ~~Wow if you haven't stopped and taken a close listen to this new song called "Last Thing on My Mind" ~ give it a listen too... I am lovin hitting the replay button on it... I had wanted to finish my post with another magical song by Keith Urban... but the sun is shining here this Sunday Morning, and I don't want to jinx this nice day, but posting lyrics to Keiths Oooooooh sooo nice song called "Raining on Sunday" ~~~ Hmmmm DanC ~~I Hope you listened to Keith work his magic nicely on this song last night! :) ~~~~ It ticks just like a Timex, it never let's up on you, who said life was easy, the job is never through.... Love could use a day of rest.... pray that it's raining on Sunday, Stormin like crazy, we'll hide under the covers all afternoon, whatever comes on Monday, it'll take care of itself, we got better things to do when it's a raining on Sunday ~~~Woooooo Keith sing it again for me! :) :) ;)

Message: 35101 Posted: Sun Aug 22 06:30:39 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Jewish Baby

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 22, 2004

48 years ago - The Five Satins make their debut on the R&B charts with a song they recorded in a New Haven, Ct. church basement, "In The Still of the Night." (1956)

48 years ago - Elvis begins work on his first movie, "Love Me Tender." (1956)

46 years ago - Former Living Colour guitarist Vernon Reid is born. (1958)

43 years ago - Tears For Fears member Roland Orzabal and Bangles drummer Debbie Peterson are born. (1961)

41 years ago - Singer Tori Amos is born. (1963)

40 years ago - Martha & The Vandellas' "Dancing In The Streets" is released. (1964)

40 years ago - Liberty Records reports the album, "The Chipmunks Sing the Beatles" is selling 25,000 copies a day. (1964)

38 years ago - Jerry Lee Lewis is signed to play Iago in "Catch My Soul," a rock version of Shakespeare's "Othello." (1966)

36 years ago - Cynthia Powell Lennon sues John Lennon for divorce on the grounds of adultery. She came back from a vacation and found Yoko Ono living in the Lennon's London home. (1968)

35 years ago - The Beatles film a film short for "The Long and Winding Road." (1969)

34 years ago - Elvis Presley announces the six date itinerary of his first tour since 1958. (1970)

34 years ago - Derek and the Dominoes begin work on their first and only studio album, "Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs." (1970)

34 years ago - Creedence Clearwater Revival's "Cosmo's Factory" LP hits #1, a position it would hold for 9 weeks. (1970)

34 years ago - Elton John signs to MCA Records. (1970)

27 years ago - Peter Frampton plays the first of three sold out shows at Madison Square Garden. (1977)

25 years ago - Led Zeppelin releases what turns out to be their last album together, "In Through The Out Door." (1979)

17 years ago - Bruce Springsteen hops on stage with Levon Helm during Helm's show at the Stone Pony in Asbury Park, N.J. They do "Up On Cripple Creek" and Little Richard's, "Lucille." (1987)

17 years ago - Suzanne Vega's "Luka" peaks at #3 on the pop chart. (1987)

12 years ago - Sting marries his girlfriend of 10 years, Trudi Styler. (1992)

6 years ago - Elton John, playing the second of two shows at the Arrowhead Pond of Anaheim, is joined on stage by comedian Jim Carrey. They perform "Rocket Man" as a duet. (1998)


Tears For Fears - Everybody Wants To Rule The World

Welcome to your life.
There's no turning back.
Even while we sleep.
We will find you
Acting out your best behavior
Turn your back on Mother Nature
Everybody Wants to Rule the World.

It's my own desire
It's my own reward.
Help me to decide
Help me make the most of freedom
And our pleasure
Nothing ever lasts forever.
Everybody Wants to Rule the World.

There's a room where the light won't find you,
Holding hands while The Walls come tumbling down.
When they do, I'll be right behind you.
So glad, we've almost made it;
So sad, they had to take it.
Everybody Wants to Rule the World.

I can't stand this indecision
Married with a lack of vision
Everybody wants to rule the world

Say that you'l never never never need it
One headline, why believe it?
Everybody wants to rule the world

All for freedom and for pleasure
Nothing lasts forever
Everybody wants to rule the world


Jewish Baby

A young Jewish man falls in love with a Native American woman and
they decide to get married. When his mother hears the news, however,
she is extremely distressed because she wanted him, of course, to
marry a nice Jewish girl.

When she hears that not only is he marrying this Native American girl but has decided to live with her on the reservation, the mother
becomes so upset that she refuses to even speak to the boy,
practically disowning him.

After a year, the son telephones the mother to tell her that he and
his wife are expecting a child. The mother is happy for him, but
there is still quite a bit of tension in the air.

Nine months later, the son calls the mother again.

"Mom," he says, "I just wanted you to know that last night my wife
gave birth to a healthy baby boy.

I also wanted to tell you that we've talked it over and we have
decided to give the boy a Jewish name."

Upon hearing this, the mother is overjoyed. "Oh, son, this is
wonderful," she gushes. "I've been waiting for this moment all my
life. You have made me the happiest woman in the world."

"That's great, Mom," replies the son.

"And what," asks the mother, "is the baby's name?"

The son proudly replies, "Smoked Whitefish!"


All those who believe in psycho kinesis, raise my hand.

Red Oak

Message: 35100 Posted: Sun Aug 22 05:38:17 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: austin city limits

Hey, thanks Johnny. I don't listen to much Country music but I must say his songs struck a chord with me on the show I saw. thanks for the info.DanC.

Message: 35099 Posted: Sat Aug 21 21:36:43 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: austin city limits

Rodney Crowell is a very familiar name in the country music scene. He's known for his talent as a successful singer as well as an equally successful songwriter. I can recall only two of his country music hits at this moment and they are, "Ashes By Now" and "She's Crazy For Leavin'". He also wrote Bob Seger's hit song, "Shame On The Moon".

He is also known as the former son-in-law of Johnny Cash... having been married to the very well-known country music singer and songwriter Roseanne Cash.

Message: 35098 Posted: Sat Aug 21 19:33:38 2004 By: Dan
Subject: austin city limits

Just caught austin city limits tonight. I thought I knew it all but I saw a guy named Rodney Crowell on this show and he blew me away. Have any of you knowledgable people ever heard this guy? Would like to hear some info on him if it's not too "off topic".thanks. oh and a couple of strange band names I've liked but don't know why are Sopwith Camel from the sixties and the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. DanC.

Message: 35097 Posted: Sat Aug 21 16:13:54 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: What's In a Name (The Cyrkle)

Mark M,

Thanks for the info and music trivia on S&G and "Red Rubber Ball". I will have to try and get my hands on that live recording of it.


Message: 35096 Posted: Sat Aug 21 14:50:45 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: From Down Under

A day or two ago I received a BIG package from Greg, Lili, and Jordan Gorter in Australia and it was filled with all kinds of fun things (thanks Greg!). Of interest to most of you will be a newspaper article that he sent me, a newspaper advertisement, and a radio interview. Click on the links below to see/hear them:

Newspaper article from Herald Sun on 16 November 2003
Newspaper advertisement for the Melbourne Concert Hall gig on 25 January 2004
Interview of Gerry and Dewey (Breakfast with Angela Catterns) on 30 January 2004

Message: 35095 Posted: Sat Aug 21 13:13:13 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: July Photos

Still here in 29 ( as the locals call it) Thanx for the pics Steve- I had to laugh at the pic of you Gerry and Matt. Matt had a bad time that evening and it certainly shows on his normally happy face!

Thanks for reminding me of a "lovely night"- wish we had gotten to talk more Steve, but I had staked out a great spot at the stage and didn't want to lose it after standing for all that pre-show time!

Message: 35094 Posted: Sat Aug 21 10:54:00 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: July Photos

Hey Steve, thanks for the photos and bringing back the memorys. I would love to see them in Layton again...that was a nice venue and a nice night. :)
Mark M

Message: 35093 Posted: Sat Aug 21 10:39:49 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: What's In a Name (The Cyrkle)

thanks for the info on "The Cyrkle and John Lennon". I knew it was a name suggested by John, I just didn't recall the circumstance of it.
"Red rubber ball" is on S&G'S box set. I borrowed a coworkers box set and burned a couple CD'S from it. So I have the song, but not the box set. It's in the middle of a live set of songs on the box set.
"Art Garfunkel" Quotes on it, "That it was written by Paul simon and the only song he had written that they had not recorded. He says a group called the Cyrkle beat us to it, recorded it and sold 890, 000 copys of it". Its a nice little S&G song.
Mark M

Message: 35092 Posted: Sat Aug 21 09:39:39 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: July Photos

This morning at 2 am I was able to revive my computer and thereby retrieve the concert photos that I took last month. You can access them from the photo index of the America Fans web site or by clicking on the links below:

Anaheim, California Concert
Layton, Utah Concert - Group 1 of 3
Layton, Utah Concert - Group 2 of 3
Layton, Utah Concert - Group 3 of 3

Message: 35091 Posted: Sat Aug 21 09:23:05 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Surfer Shirts and "It's A Turn Down Day"

Glad you remembered them. They were as you described, except they were of a lightweight cotton cloth, they were a solid color with no collar and had a thin white band around the collar area which ran down the front upper chest with three buttons. They were worn outside the pants. Very cool casual wear in its day... It reminds me of riding in my mom's Chevelle and humming "It's A Turn Down Day" on the radio...

It's much too groovy a summer's day
To waste runnin' round in the city
But here on the sand I can dream away
Or look at the girls if they're pretty
It's a turn-down day
Nothin' on my mind
It's a turn-down day
And I dig it
There's nothing easier I can do
Than lyin' around doing nothing
[repeat chorus]
Soft summer breeze and the surf rolls in
To laughter of small children playin'
Someone's radio has the news tuned in
But nobody cares what he's sayin'
[repeat chorus]
Things that are waiting to mess my mind
Will just have to wait 'til tomorrow
[repeat chorus to fade]


Message: 35090 Posted: Sat Aug 21 08:59:07 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Surfer Shirts

Serge ~ I remember my two older brother having a couple of shirts that may have been what you mentioned as "surfer shirts". Theirs were made of the same type of material as that of a sweat shirt. The shirts had no collar. They were pullover type shirts with a white border around the collar area that ran in the front. They had a few buttons in the front and were solid in color.

Does this description sound somewhat familiar?

Message: 35089 Posted: Sat Aug 21 08:41:05 2004 By: Andy
Subject: Re: A Very Racy Topic

Boy, this sure is the topic from hell. I can only wish that both would continue to tour as a solo act, but that's only a wish on my part.

Message: 35088 Posted: Sat Aug 21 08:36:59 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: What's In a Name (The Cyrkle)


Thanks for the info on The Cyrkle, it all seems very logical...The Byrds, The Beatles. Epstein had something there.

Mark M,

No, I have not heard "Red Rubber Ball" by S&G. Is it on a CD or box set?

This is way off topic, but The Cyrkle brought memories of my early teens and "surfer shirts"...Anybody here remember "surfer shirts" besides me? They were the rage here in New Orleans in 1966 when "Red Rubber Ball" and "Turn Down Day" were popular. I remember I had two of them a red and a yellow one...


Message: 35087 Posted: Sat Aug 21 08:24:27 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: What's In a Name (The Cyrkle)

Mark M and Serge ~ Regarding how the band The Cyrkle received its name, the following is what I found on the net:

"While playing the Alibi Lounge during the summer of 1964, they [known at the time as the Rhondells] were heard by Nat Weiss, an entertainment lawyer and would-be music entrepreneur who suddenly became very prominent in 1964 when he hooked up with British manager Brian Epstein.

The name the Rhondells, with its early-'60s aura, was abandoned in favor of the Cyrkle -- a name supposedly suggested by John Lennon, whose advise was asked by Epstein -- which was as clever a play on spelling as the Byrds or, for that matter, the Beatles.

Message: 35086 Posted: Sat Aug 21 08:06:42 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Confederate Trivia

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 21, 2004

66 years ago - Kenny Rogers(The Gambler) is born. (1938)

49 years ago - The Clash's Joe Strummer is born. (1955)

39 years ago - The Rolling Stones album, "Out of Our Heads," is number one on the U.S. album chart. Songs off the LP include, "Satisfaction," "Play With Fire" and "The Last Time." (1965)

39 years ago - The Lovin' Spoonful's "Do You Believe In Magic" and Barry McGuire's "Eve Of Destruction" are released. (1965)

37 years ago - Columbia Records re-signs Bob Dylan after his original 5 year deal agreement ended. Reportedly, Dylan had already signed with MGM Records, but MGM never countersigned the contract, allowing Columbia to move in. (1967)

32 years ago - Following a chaotic show in Akron, Ohio, Grace Slick is maced in the face and Paul Katner has his head slammed to the floor by authorities. A phoned-in bomb threat put police on edge. When fans toss rocks at a squad car, police respond with tear gas. Jack Cassidy objects from the stage. He's then arrested and taken to the basement. When Slick and Katner go downstairs to check things out, that's when the trouble with police begin. (1972)

28 years ago - The Rolling Stones top the bill over Todd Rundgren, Lynyrd Skynyrd, 10cc and others at England's annual Knebworth Festival. The concert is held in front of 200,000 fans and is played up as the last Stones show ever to be held in Britain. Of course, it's not! (1976)

24 years ago - "The Pirates of Penzance" co-starring Linda Ronstadt, moves to Broadway. (1980)

24 years ago - "The Glimmer Twins," Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, grace the cover of "Rolling Stone." (1980)

11 years ago - Bernie Taupin, Elton John's lyrcist, marries Stephanie Haymes. (1993)

10 years ago - Singer John Denver is charged with drunken driving after crashing his Porsche into a tree. (1994)

9 years ago - R.E.M. sues Hershey Foods, claiming the company exploited its name when it ran a "Kit Kat - R.E.M. concert" sweepstakes in Hershey candy bars. The suit was eventually dropped. (1995)

8 years ago - Former Talking Heads lead singer David Byrne sued to prevent the rest of the group from touring as "The Heads." The suit was settled out of court. (1996)


Barry McGuire - Eve Of Destruction

The eastern world it is explodin',
violence flarin', bullets loadin',
you're old enough to kill but not for votin',
you don't believe in war, what's that gun you're totin',
and even the Jordan river has bodies floatin',
but you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Don't you understand, what I'm trying to say?
Can't you see the fear that I'm feeling today?
If the button is pushed, there's no running away,
There'll be no one to save with the world in a grave,
take a look around you, boy, it's bound to scare you, boy,
but you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Yeah, my blood's so mad, feels like coagulatin',
I'm sittin' here, just contemplatin',
I can't twist the truth, it knows no regulation,
handful of Senators don't pass legislation,
and marches alone can't bring integration,
when human respect is disintegratin',
this whole crazy world is just too frustratin',
and you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Think of all the hate there is in Red China!
Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama!
Ah, you may leave here, for four days in space,
but when your return, it's the same old place,
the poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace,
you can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace,
hate your next-door-neighbor, but don't forget to say grace,
and you tell me over and over and over and over again my friend,
ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.


Confederate Trivia

What does the average Mississippi State player get on his SATs? Drool.

How do you get an LSU cheerleader into your dorm room? Grease her hips and push like hell.

How do you get a Georgia graduate off your porch? Pay him for the pizza.

How many Ole Miss freshmen does it take to change a light bulb? None. That's a sophomore course at Mississippi.

Why do the Auburn cheerleaders wear bibs? To keep the tobacco juice off their uniforms.

Why is the Vandy football team like a possum? Because they play dead at home, and get killed on the road.

Why did Tennessee choose orange as their team color? They can wear it to the game on Saturday, hunting on Sunday, and picking up trash along the highways the rest of the week.


Over and out.

Red Oak

Message: 35085 Posted: Sat Aug 21 07:09:59 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Just a Note...

A while back there was a discussion about the America 1985 In Concert CD, which I had thought was not on a CD since I did not have it and was never able to get it when I was ordering the other CDs. Well, I now do! I don't remember who had suggested to me that I could possibly get it, but I went onto CD Universe and ordered it. It was out of stock at that time, but last week they emailed me and said there were 2 copies in stock. Just got it yesterday. Now my LP/CD collection is complete. Thank you whoever you were for your suggestion!

Message: 35084 Posted: Sat Aug 21 06:30:11 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Some Saturday Morning Ramblins from Me!

Hey Hoooo Everyone ~~ Yet Another Rainy Day In Pa... Hmmm I think Michael Bolton should do a version of the Song Another Rainy Day in PA (Georgia) LOL!!! I know where in the world did that thought come from! Oh well I will blame it on my Craziness the last couple of days! :)

1st Up ~~ My Friday Morning Jam was the CURVES Music (just a Little Muffled) coming through my new office walls... I gotta get myself a C\D ~ Radio for my office soooon! ~~ I have been too wiped out the last couple of Nights to listen to my Music OUCH that Hurts! ~~ Tooooo Much Michael Bolton, just came on the radio here singing "When a Man Loves a Woman" (this is my new bosses favorite song) :) Sorry probably THI there, Oh well it feels good just to let my fingers do some ramblin on.. :) ~~~ Between getting my new office all set up and working at the main office, and getting my son Adam ready to move into college today... I have had a full plate of things crowding my Mind!!!

Hmmm ~~ That is pretty neat that AMERICA's Ventura Hwy is on this album of Remix's, I will be curious to hear it, I have to admit the more I hear Seals & Crofts ~ Summer Breeze I am a humming and singing along with it! Another song on this cd that has me curious is Nicolette Larson's "Lotta Love" it has always been a fave of mine. ~~ Thanks for sharing this info with us Mark! :)

Sooo You wanna know what Group's names catch our attention Bluey ~~ Well the groups "Sixpence None the Richer" ~ "Johnny Hates Jazz" ~ "Puddle of Mud" have always stirred up a Wonderin in me! Hmmm ~ I could list more, but gotta get going here...

Mo ~~ That's pretty neat Kaity & Riley wanting to be in a Group together and yes Mistaken Twins would be a Catchy name! ~~ Regarding your Being Bored while Jeff is away, and Posting more than usual.. I have Been there Done That Many a Time! ~ Hey I Love to read the Spontaneous thoughts that are in posts at times like that...

Hey Bones ~~ Glad you had a good time at the Marshall Crenshaw Show ... Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this with us, I love how you take in soooo many Shows! Keep on enjoying them! :) ~~ Hey when I read Steve O's weekly music column last night I saw in it that "Tears for Fear" new CD is finally gonna be released here in the States this fall. Nice Huh! :)

Hi David S ~~ I will have to check CD Universe out later tonight.. thanks for letting us know about new front cover History release...

Happy B'day to the late James Pankow of Chicago... I loved his songs "Color My World" & I've Been Searchin soooooo Lonnnng", Just You'n Me, and I am sure there are others, that won't come to my fingertips right now cause of my Racing Mind! ~ Thanks Red for Stirrin up some nice songs in my mind! :) ;)

Okay I gotta get now, Lots to do, Geeze my second Baby heading to College ~~ Wow the Years just keep a Reelin on! ~~ Hey I haven't heard Steely Dan's gem of a song "Reeling out the Years" Excuse my oooops and bloops, for some reason that song title isn't coming clearly to me now.. I can hear the song playing in my head tho... LOL!!!

Have a Great Weekend Everyone! Seee Ya Nancy :)

~~~ And from Moment to Moment Your Life Can Change, there's a Storrrm over the Horizon, a Sea noone can seeee, somewhere around the bend, right where you least expect, someone can walk away with no regret, Leaving an empty space, breaking a sacred trust, all of your shiney dreams can rust... Ooooooh Gerry how I Love this song... Promise me You'll Never Change, Promise me You'll Stayyyyy the Same :) :) :)

Message: 35083 Posted: Fri Aug 20 22:05:06 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: A Very Racy Topic

Perish the thought!! I'm having trouble getting through August without Dewey and Gerry on the road. It makes me shudder to even think about one of them retiring for good for either health or other reasons.
I do agree with Steve's prediction though. It seems logical. If it does turn out that way, let's hope Dewey keeps sending us pictures of him and his fishes!!

If we are keeping a count for a daily post record, this is my seventh of the day. But we may have to call in an Olympic judge for a ruling since it is actually after midnight here but this post will be recorded on chat folder time which is not after midnight yet...I don't think. Who knows if that would set a daily record? Johnny is the most experienced archivist, maybe he would know.
While we wait for the ruling, allow me to apologize for exceeding my maximum daily requirement. Hey, the hub is out of town and I'm just bored. I guess I'll go read my library books.


Message: 35082 Posted: Fri Aug 20 21:38:58 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: A Very Racy Topic

Hey Johnny, I'll bite. I think that if either Gerry or Dewey decided to retire, America would no longer be a band (i.e., the other one would not continue as America). If it were Dewey that retired, I could easily see Gerry continuing as a solo artist and playing some America songs along with some of his solo material. If it were Gerry that retired, I can envision Dewey doing a lot of fishing in Wisconsin.

My home computer that has all of my personal stuff and the America web site files on it decided to crash today. It may be beyond repair but I'm doing my best to bring it back to life. I had some photos from the House of Blues in Anaheim and from the Layton show that I was going to post but they are on that machine. So, it might be a while before I can get them posted and before I can do anything else, for that matter. In the meantime, I'm using my laptop to access the Internet (I generally only use the laptop when I'm on the road).

Message: 35081 Posted: Fri Aug 20 21:18:52 2004 By: David S
Subject: New-Old Greatest Hits and New Compilation

If you go to CD Universe, you'll see the History/Greatest Hits with a new-styled cover, and you'll also see a new compilation called "Horse With No Name and Other Hits" which will be released in September.

Message: 35080 Posted: Fri Aug 20 20:27:44 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: A Very Racy Topic

With the recent news of Dan Fogelberg's battle with prostate cancer, I couldn't help but ponder what would become of America if either Dewey or Gerry were no longer able or willing to continue on as a member of America whether due to illness (God forbid) or voluntarily stepping down such as in the case of a retirement. But, I think if we're totally truthful, we would probably have to admit that the thought has crossed our mind at least once.

Here is what I think would happen:

If Dewey were out of the picture for whatever reason, I think Gerry would continue on as America by adding a new member. Who that new member might be is highly debatable, no doubt.

If Gerry were out of the picture, I think Dewey would probably reunite with Dan to continue the America legacy.

Told ya it was a very racy topic.

Message: 35079 Posted: Fri Aug 20 20:15:38 2004 By: Sherry
Subject: Messages on Chat Folder

Is there a record for how many messages in one day a single person has posted on this folder, LOL?

Message: 35078 Posted: Fri Aug 20 20:06:38 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: What's In a Name

Im not sure of the exact way they got it...I will have to do some searching on it. I do know that "Lennon" sugested the name to them, a name he had come up with sometime before hand.
Do you have the live version of the song by S&G?
Mark M

Message: 35077 Posted: Fri Aug 20 20:00:39 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM - Dan

Dan, I saw Foghat a month or so ago at the Mohegan Sun. You're right about Foghat not being the same without Lomesome Dave but the guy who does all the singing does a really great job. Go see them, I don't think you'll be disappointed.

Message: 35076 Posted: Fri Aug 20 19:55:31 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: OT: Mohegan Report??

Mo, Marshall Crenshaw was better than I thought he was going to be. He played both the electric guitar and played 4 songs with the acoustic guitar. Started playing at 8:01PM and finished at 9:25PM. I guess you would have to be a fan since his first album to appreciate the songs he played tonight. Overall I would say that it was probably the 4th best show I’ve seen at the Mohegan. Two weeks for 38 Special.

Message: 35075 Posted: Fri Aug 20 19:53:34 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: What's In a Name

Mark M,
You got me on the John Lennon-Cyrcle connection, however I knew Paul Simon had written "Red Rubber Ball". What a great song! How did they get their name from John Lennon? In 1966 the Cyrcle was a hot group. Too bad they only had two notable hits...

Message: 35074 Posted: Fri Aug 20 19:48:31 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Two Degrees Of America

By the way, Degrees of America is a game on the order of Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon where you can relate nearly every actor in Hollywood to Kevin Bacon within six movies or less. At least, that's my understanding of it. So, Degrees of America is my sick, sorry game of relating everyday--seemingly unrelated--stuff to America in degrees. For example, hearing an America song on the radio is an easy one. That's a straight up, one degree relationship. "Tampa Burn" is two degrees, I guess. It's not about America or by America but they are mentioned in the Introduction and some of their lyrics are cited as well.
I know I've mentioned this all before and most everyone knows about the "Tampa Burn" connection. But we have had some newbies join us recently and I thought they might be sitting in front of their screens saying, "Wha?"

But, hey, maybe they do that with most of my posts!

That is all.
Happy Weekend,

Message: 35073 Posted: Fri Aug 20 19:35:03 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Two Degrees Of America

Was at the local library today to return my copy of "Big Russ And Me." I sat down in front of the 'new arrivals' section to pick something else to borrow. The librarian brought over a big stack of books and set them on the bench next to me. She said they were the newEST arrivals and if I wanted to, I could have a look before she would shelf them. I was almost through the stack when I came across "Tampa Burn." I smiled. I showed it to Kaity, who just nodded politely. Funny, I didn't think they would ever have a copy of it. But, I guess getting a copy as the 'new arrival' only 3 months or so after its release isn't too awfully bad for a small, upstate town. Next thing you know, they'll have a copy of the Sydney DVD in the media section. Yeah...right.

Message: 35072 Posted: Fri Aug 20 19:30:58 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

Best Of Badfinger, Hey, and Foghat is playing Peoria's riverfront tomorrow night. Will go but it just don't seem like Foghat without "Lonesome" Dave Peverett out front, may he rest in peace.DanC.

Message: 35071 Posted: Fri Aug 20 19:20:15 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: What's In a Name

I like the name "Dire Straits" Im listening to "Brothers in arms" as I type this. Great band !!
A friend of mine and his brother have a band...the name is "Lizzy Redshawl"
Did you know The Cyrcle" got their name from "John Lennon". And "Red rubber ball" was written by "Paul Simon"?
Moser, I like the name myself..."Mistaken Twins". Cute !
Mark M

Message: 35070 Posted: Fri Aug 20 19:15:10 2004 By: Moser
Subject: OT: Mohegan Report??

Was just playing some Foghat which reminded of you, Bones. Which in turn reminded me that you are headed to Mohegan to see Marshall Crenshaw this weekend, right? How was it?

Message: 35069 Posted: Fri Aug 20 19:04:07 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

I hear "Daisy Jane" a lot on the oldies station here in SLC.
Mark M

Message: 35068 Posted: Fri Aug 20 19:00:17 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

Hey Nancy M, I heard that same song as I was getting ready for the lunch hour basketball game.
A friend at work and myself sang it repeativly as we were warming up !
Mark M

Message: 35067 Posted: Fri Aug 20 13:21:30 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

"Only in Your heart" gets regular play on a channel called "The Loft" which features lots of acoustic stuff. A check on their site shows that it last aired on August 5th. "Don't Cross The River" gets regular airplay on the "70's on 7" despite being a minor Top 40 hit. Ditto for "Todays The Day."

Message: 35066 Posted: Fri Aug 20 11:22:31 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

Steve O,
Glad you are a fellow fan of this latest Santana/Michelle Branch winner. The regular CD of "Shaman" has a terrific sound, I was blasting it in my car this morning and the sound was unbelievably clean and clear. I'd like to hear the DVD-audio version, but as with radio, I am still in the 20th century when it comes to music technology.

I haven't heard "Don't Cross the River" on the radio since the 1970's. That's really great that XM is giving the America hits and even their lesser charting hits their well deserved air play. I'd like to hear "Today's the Day", "Amber Cascades", "Muskrat Love" and "Daisy Jane" once again on the radio. Is "Only in Your Heart" one of them?


Message: 35065 Posted: Fri Aug 20 07:27:30 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

<<...when I woke up this morning, the tune playing on my radio was about some woman with blonde hair. I think that song was penned by that same blond guy....>>
Wouldn't it be great, NancyM, if your clock radio awakened you each morning with that same song about that same blonde woman by that same blond guy? It would be like that movie, "Ground Hog Day" with the Sonny and Cher song waking poor Bill Murray up every day. I know... that same 'blonde woman' song could wake you up every day into an endless loop of repeating the day you got to see your best America show ever. Now, that would be waaaay cool.

Message: 35064 Posted: Fri Aug 20 07:05:56 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

Hmmm, Mo, when I woke up this morning, the tune playing on my radio was about some woman with blonde hair. I think that song was penned by that same blond guy ...

Message: 35063 Posted: Fri Aug 20 06:50:38 2004 By: red oak
Subject: Bdays, History, Lyrics, St Peter & Strange Laws

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 20, 2004

57 years ago - Chicago's James Pankow is born. (1947)

56 years ago - Robert Plant, vocalist for Led Zeppelin, is born. (1948)

53 years ago - The late Phil Lynott of Thin Lizzy is born. (1951)

52 years ago - John Hiatt, solo artist, is born. (1952)

44 years ago - Connie Francis begins working on her acting debut, as filming for MGM's "Where the Boys Are" starts in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. (1960)

38 years ago - The Temptations' "Beauty Is Only Skin Deep" is released. (1966)

37 years ago - The New York Times reports about a new noise reduction system for album and tape recording developed by technicians R. and D.W. Dolby. Elektra Record's new subsidiary, Checkmate Records, will be the first label to use the new Dolby process in its recordings. (1967)

36 years ago - The director of the University of Tennessee's audio lab, Dr. David M. Lipscomb, reports a guinea pig subjected over a three month period to 88 hours of rock music recorded at a Knoxville disco at 120 decibels suffered acute damage to the inner ears. The New York Times was told by Steve Paul, owner of the New York disco, The Scene, "Should a major increase in guinea pig attendance occur at the Scene, we'll certainly bear their comfort in mind." (1968)

35 years ago - Frank Zappa disbands the Mothers of Invention right after an eight day tour in Canada. Zappa says he's "tired of playing for people who clap for all the wrong reasons." (1969)

31 years ago - The Rolling Stones release "Angie." (1973)

23 years ago - Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band perform a benefit concert for Vietnam veterans at the Los Angeles Sports Arena. (1981)

8 years ago - Carlos Santana receives a star on Hollywood's Walk Of Fame. (1996)

5 years ago - Blues Traveler bassist Bobby Sheehan is found dead in his New Orleans apartment. He was 31. (1999)


Whole Lotta Love - Led Zeppelin

You need coolin', baby, I'm not foolin',
I'm gonna send you back to schoolin',
Way down inside honey, you need it,
I'm gonna give you my love,
I'm gonna give you my love.

*Wanna Whole Lotta Love (X4)

You've been learnin', baby, I bean learnin',
All them good times, baby, baby, I've been yearnin',
Way, way down inside honey, you need it,
I'm gonna give you my love... I'm gonna give you my love.

* Chorus

You've been coolin', baby, I've been droolin',
All the good times I've been misusin',
Way, way down inside, I'm gonna give you my love,
I'm gonna give you every inch of my love,
Gonna give you my love.

* Chorus

Way down inside... woman... You need... love.

Shake for me, girl. I wanna be your backdoor man.
Keep it coolin', baby.



Two doctors and an HMO manager died and lined up at the
pearly gates for admission to heaven.

St. Peter asked them to identify themselves.

One doctor stepped forward and said, "I was a pediatric
orthopedic surgeon and helped correct deformities in children."

St. Peter said, "You may enter."

The second doctor said, "I was a psychiatrist. I helped
people rehabilitate themselves."

St. Peter also invited him in.

The third applicant stepped forward and said, "I was an HMO
manager. I helped people get cost-effective health care."

St. Peter said, "You can come in too."

As the HMO manager walked by, St. Peter added, "You can only
stay three days. After that, you can go to hell."


Strange State Laws -

In Hastings, Nebraska, no couple, even if they are married, may sleep together in the nude.


TGIF everyone & have a great weekend.

Red Oak

Message: 35062 Posted: Fri Aug 20 06:48:10 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

Playing from my computer at work through its BOSE speakers:
iTunes Celebrity Playlist from some blond guy, I forget his name.

Speaking of BOSE, has anyone noticed Michael Phelps' use of the BOSE QC2 headset when he is getting ready to compete? I wonder if that is a shrewd product placement by BOSE or just what he has always done.

Bones, sounds like you could use a BOSE home theater system to play that DVD. Gimme a call, I know a guy....

Message: 35061 Posted: Fri Aug 20 06:35:43 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: What's In a Name (Future Band Name)

Great topic, Bluey.
I've always liked the name of 10,000 Maniacs although it doesn't describe their style very well.

This is not exactly what you were asking for, but your question brought this to mind. Molly and Riley, our younger two kids, are close in age--20 months apart. Only one grade separates them in school. They are similar sizes and have common features--same dark blond hair with blue eyes. Therefore, we are often asked if they are twins. I suppose that will end once Riley inevitably passes his sister in height and bulk. For now, though, it is a source of irritation to poor Molly who thinks if you are older, you surely should be bigger. I guess to express this, she has decided that one day (after each of them learns to play some instrument or perhaps actually learn to sing well) she and her brother will have a band. She's not sure what they'll play but she knows the name of the band...Mistaken Twins.
I like that. I hope it works out.

Message: 35060 Posted: Fri Aug 20 06:29:55 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: What's In a Name

How about The Electric Prunes, they were a one hit wonder with their atmospheric "Last Night I had the Strangest Dream". Pretty good early psychedelic song from 1967. Also,The 1910 Fruit Gum Co. with "Simon Says", The Cyrcle with "Red Rubber Ball" and "Turn Down Day" (My favorite) and The Lemon Pipers with "My Green Tambourine". If I think of any others I'll post them later,


Message: 35059 Posted: Fri Aug 20 06:23:56 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

Sergio,I have the DVD-Audio disc of "Shaman" and you are right--its great! But "The Game of Love" is one of the best singles I have heard over the past few years! Excellent vocals(Michelle Branch),lyrics and outstanding guitar work from Santana.
As for music this morning,I was pleasantly surprised to turn my XM radio onto "70's on 7" and hear "Don't Cross the river" right off the bat! As I mentioned a couple of months ago,There are probably 12 different America songs that span 3-4 of the channels on XM radio. Its nice to see some of their "lesser" charting songs getting regular airplay.

Message: 35058 Posted: Fri Aug 20 05:56:49 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: What's In a Name

I was watching the John Kerry campaign on TV the other day and there were thousands of banners waving in the air with something like "Kerry for America" but the word America was coloured red and really stood out. I thought, well that's a lot of free publicity for G & B.

I got to thinking how sometimes a name and appearance of a band/group captures your attention straight away.

Journeying through the 60s I just loved the names of some of the bands. My favourite being "The Kinks". When I first saw them hoarsing out "You Really Got Me" and saw the long hair plus the name, I have been a fan ever since. I suppose it does help when the band, like America, back everything up with a succession of hits. Actually, a couple of years ago we went and saw the Edinburgh Award winning Ray Davies' show in Sydney and it was just unbelievable. Just Ray and another guitarist playing acoustic or "unplugged" versions of his "Kinks" hits and him telling us the story of his life, the good and bad times. It was very different and very, very enjoyable.

Other band names I loved were:- "The Pretty Things" (still going)
"The Crazy World of Arthur Brown" - "Lovin' Spoonful" - "The Animals" - "The Zombies" - "The Running, Jumping, Standing Still Group" - "The Grateful Dead" - Just to name a few.

A young male was walking through the shopping centre today and was wearing a black "The Dead Kennedys" T-Shirt - really in bad taste!

Anyone out there got any unusual band names for us to read?


Message: 35057 Posted: Fri Aug 20 05:53:24 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Friday AM JAM

I've had Santana's CD "Shaman" on my player all week, what an incredibly cool CD from this master guitarist. All in an effort to extend the feel good mood of my recent vacation to Miami Beach. The outstanding single from this CD is "The Game of Love" with incredibly infectuous vocals by Michelle Branch and equally persuasive guitar work from the Master himself. If you haven't heard this one, try it, you'll like it. As the song goes...

Tell me just what you want me to be
One kiss and boom you're the only one for me
So please tell me why don't you come around no more
Cause right now I'm crying outside the door of your candy store

It just takes a little bit of this
A little bit of that
It started with a kiss
Now we're up to bat
A little bit of laughs
A little bit of pain
I'm telling you, my babe
It's all in the game of love

This, whatever you make it to be
Sunshine set on this cold lonely sea
So please baby try and use me for what I'm good for
It ain't sayin' goodbye that's knocking down the door of your candy store

It's all in this game of love
You roll me
Control melyricstop
Console me
Please hold me
You guide me
Divide me
Into what...

[Guitar solo]
Make me feel good, yeah

So please tell me why don't you come around no more
Cause right now I'm dying outside the door of your loving store

[Repeat Chorus]

It's all in this game of love
It's all in the game of love
Yeah, in the game of love

Roll me
Control me
Please hold me
(make me feel good, yeah)

Happy Friday!


Message: 35056 Posted: Thu Aug 19 21:51:08 2004 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics, Top 15 & 2 Muslims & an Israeli

Red -

Sailing, without a doubt, is my all-time favorite song.

On another note, as a Jew, I would say the joke was tasteless, but I have to stop laughing first! Very good one!


Message: 35055 Posted: Thu Aug 19 17:24:44 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: DVD

OMG, OMG, OMG, the DVD, the DVD, the DVD.
When can we get it, when can we get it, when can we get it?
Oh, yes, Steve- nice home page photo. Thank you...

Message: 35054 Posted: Thu Aug 19 16:43:14 2004 By: Nina
Subject: "What I Did on My Summer Vacation" Photo

Dewey, your picture made me laugh out loud! You DO look cute and "oh so proud" of your catch! Nice to see you out there having summer fun in "Nee-nah" WI! (Best name ever!) Remember, when you return to touring... you need to keep your eyes peeled for Chubby Checker's tour bus in order to avenge my name!!!

Ed. note: Last time I saw Dewey he was teasing me about an incident that happened about 4 years ago that he thought was highly amusing, but which humiliated me completely! I told him that seeing both America and Chubby probably crossed paths occasionally on the touring circuit that it was up to Dewey and Gerry to set things straight with Mr. High and Mighty Checker!

Message: 35053 Posted: Thu Aug 19 16:27:15 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Dewey's Fish Story

Wow, what a catch! Then there's those two fish that Dewey caught. : )

Message: 35052 Posted: Thu Aug 19 16:03:13 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Nice Photo Out Front

Any chance that the DVD gets released on a music CD? Sure would be nice listening to this play list in the automobile or on the BOSE sound system.

Message: 35051 Posted: Thu Aug 19 15:58:21 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Re: Dewey's Fish Story (what a day brightener!)

Dewey and Steve L. - thanks for making my day! I have to agree with what many others said, that second picture of Dewey is downright cute. And the first one - the paper I printed it on seems heavy just because of how heavy that fish looks! (Yes, I had to go and print the story and the pics - it was just such a day brightener!) Plus, I'm always glad to hear about Dewey enjoying WISCONSIN - great state that it is! I've always hoped the guys would share some tidbits just like this with us - it's nice to hear about the things that make up their lives outside of music, too. Karen

Message: 35050 Posted: Thu Aug 19 15:30:11 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics, Top 15 & 2 Muslims & an Israeli

"The Beatles" also ad to your list of artists with "Love me do". A hit in Brittan before "The Beatles" ever made it to the US.
Mark M

Message: 35049 Posted: Thu Aug 19 15:25:12 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: Re: American Beach Boys

Gidday Bluey! No, I didnt see the concert you speak of, though Ive heard about it. Sounds a fantastic night! Oftentimes bands go as far as Oz and dont take the trip across the ditch. Fleetwood Mac being an example. Though I did see them out here in about '81. No news here yet on the DVD, although I imagine it must surely be released around the same time as you guys. Cant wait! Speaking of Split Enz/Crowded House, the Finn brothers have a new record out this week and from what Ive read it is terrific. The promo blurb is something along the lines of Beatles/Beach Boys harmonies. They are touring The States at present. Hey Nance, you gotta get to the Brian Wilson show!

Message: 35048 Posted: Thu Aug 19 15:13:14 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Dewey's Fish Story

Dewey, to follow up on what Jen said, since you threw that fantastic fish back into the lake, not only can you catch it again next summer, but hopefully it will be even bigger by then!

Message: 35047 Posted: Thu Aug 19 15:09:41 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Dewey's Fish Story

Wow, that is a nice fish !! I think we should all plan a fishing trip...with Dewey!!
Mark M

Message: 35046 Posted: Thu Aug 19 15:02:00 2004 By: RichM
Subject: Ventura Highway remix

I found this reference to America on

We cannot stop playing Cuica's Brazilian-spackled remix of Maria Muldaur's 1974 top 10 hit, "Midnight at the Oasis." Its sunny, disco-laced rhythms are tailor-made for the lazy, hazy days of summer.

This is the type of postcard-perfect remix that, if you didn't know better, you might think was the original version of the song.

The tune's new musical bed--concocted by Cuica's Pete Herbert and Simone Serritella--sweetly surrounds Muldaur's blues-tinged vocals.

This rerub is one of many highlights on "Warner Bros. Remixes Vol. 1," due Aug. 31.

Other choice cuts include Nicolette Larson's "Lotta Love" (remixed by Nic Jodoin), Gary Wright's "Dreamweaver" (Supreme Beings of Leisure), America's "Ventura Highway" (Deepsky), Rod Stewart's "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy" (Halou) and Charles Wright's "Express Yourself" (Mocean Worker).

The lead single, Philip Steir's mix of Seals & Crofts' "Summer Breeze," is making headway at radio.

Special mention must be made to Warner Bros. and executive producers Steir and Leah Simon, who did not feel the need to deliver an album of paint-by-numbers, peak-hour remixes by big name, over-used DJs/producers. For that, we can all be thankful--and grateful.


Message: 35045 Posted: Thu Aug 19 12:39:02 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics, Top 15 & 2 Muslims & an Israeli

Speaking of Christopher Cross, Dan Peek did a nice cover of Sailing on his Driftin' CD.

I enjoyed reading "the Top Fifteen Tunes in Chicago on August 15, 1968". That is something that you don't see anymore in this age of nationally syndicated programming and playlists. Back in the old days each major metro area had their own charts. While most songs that were big hits were hits throughout the nation, sometimes you would have songs become hits in one or perhaps a few areas but not catch on nationally. This would give local groups or smaller labels a chance to catch on, because radio station weren't afraid to add their songs to their rotation. That's how Elvis got his start a Sun Records. His first record was a hit only in the Memphis area, but he was able to build on it. Brewer and Shipley had a local hit in the St. Louis area with Rise Up Easy Rider, before making it big nationally with One Toke Over The Line. But it seems like local charts are a thing of the past. Everybody just uses Billboard now.

Message: 35044 Posted: Thu Aug 19 10:28:18 2004 By: TommieGirl
Subject: Sigh!

Missed yet another round of Gerry Said... I really planned to be there last night, but puter problems prevailed... if this beast weren't my link to my family, fantasy football and All Things America, I would throw it right throught the window some days!!!

Dewey - nice catches! Very impressive! My husband is soooo jealous. Looks like you're having a blast - relax and enjoy! Thanks for the post, Steve, I hope all is well with you.

Linda - LOL! To get a hug from Gerry for Mo - what a sacrifice - what a great friend!

Hope everyone is well -

Take Care

Message: 35043 Posted: Thu Aug 19 10:19:06 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: My Thursday This & That Replies!

Hi Hoooo Everyone ~~ I tell you not right now Lady, I got work on my mind, and I'll talk to you soon... Yes Gerry, Dewey & Dan are here singing "God of The Sun" from the Harbor album.. I love how Gerry sings this lyric line :)

Hey there Dewey ~~ Geeze thanks sooo much for sharing your Vacation time tropies with us... Thanks Steve L for posting this for us.. I went to bed a Smilin last night, after checking them out.. By your expression on the first pic Dewey, I would say you were happy to put this big ole fish down as soon as the pic was taken, Boy he sure was a Big One! :) I Loved the 2nd Pic, tooo much, you looked like a big little boy, (please don't take that the wrong way) I guess it is your "Kid at Heart" inside of you, I see coming out on this pic, Thanks I sure did enjoy seeing these pics. Nice to know you were able to take in this Simple Life Pleasure on your time off. ~~ Hmmm Just last night the little bit I was at live chat, we were talking about the playlists of the up and coming shows... and I was wondering aloud and said "I Wonder if Dewey will sing "Old Man Took" at the Birchmere show or shows... Upon seeing these Dewey Fish Story Pics... I wonder if this gave you a Hankerin to strum up this Great Gem! ~~ I Hope soo, I know I sure would love to hear it done live! :)

Thanks Mo for telling us about the Schroeder comic strip over the weekend, sure enough when I opened my comic strip there was Shroeder & Lucy up in the inside corner... Brought a Smile to my day for sure! ~~ Ooooooh Yes the pic you sited from Corbis the other day ~~ Most Definitely is One of My Faves on Corbis... Nice Carefree Smiles, Such a Comfortable Pic... Just reaffirms that Yep they still are the Best of Friends after all these years! Nice for sure! :) :) :)

Hope it's not to late to say a Welcome Aboard to Scott S... I had wanted to post over the weekend, but never got the chance... I just gotta say that I Love hitting the replay button on my Homecoming Audio DVD... I have the original Homecoming on lp and haven't been able to play it for years, cause of my turntable being broken.. and without speakers.. Hmmm I am wondering if some of the differences you brought attention to is because of the Digital Remastering of this Gem Album... I LOVE How these songs COME TO LIFE when I pop this DVD in my dvd player and I love how the Surround Sound wraps me up in this Magic! ~~ The Third Best Thing to getting to see a show of theirs! :)

Hey there Red ~~ Thanks for all of your Sugar & Spice Posts... You can betcha I was a smiling and a laughing with each one.. We sure have missed You at Live Chat ~~ Won't ya please come and talk to us again soon! :) ;) ~~ Did ya get some heavy rains there yesterday... we are getting them today.. Hubby was watching the mens channel last night and there is this reality show, that shows all kinds of ranches and landscapes that are for sale there in Colo... he looked at me and said let's go all out and buy this Horse ranch that is 46 miles away from Denver... Hmmm I gotta say this did Tempt me... :)

Hi Chuck & Karen L ~~ Nice that you guys are trying to get together at the upcoming Wis show... I hope it all works out for this to happen. Have a great time! ~~~ Thanks Chuck for sharing your Touching story about your Dad's funeral and how it touches home with the Dan F news. ~ May all the Precious Memories of your Dad, be there to comfort you on days when you are missing him sooo much! :)

Cheers Bluey & Jimmmmmbob ~~~ Wow ~ Lucky you Bluey ordering your Sydney DVD, I sure am waiting Patiently for some news of the release date for this here in the US... My b'day is Sept 8th, that would be a Nice b'day treat for me... if I would be able to hit the send button on my DVD order... Jimmmmbob ~~ I am not for sure, but I think Brian Wilson is coming to the Seven Springs Ampitheatre for a stop on his tour... this sept or oct... tooo bad you couldn't hop on a big old plane and head here to Pa... to take this Magic in! ;)

Well it is another Rainy day here in Pa, kinda a lazy day for me, I had to go to the dentist to get the other half of my root canal procedure done first thing this morning... I am glad it is done with, altho it was nice having those big brown chocolate eyes of my Dentist to focus on.. as he tortured me this way... too much huh! :) Lots of Oldie songs a playing away on his speakers, for this hour and a half that I had to hold my mouth open and couldn't say a word... I found myself thinking too bad there wasn't a keyboard up above me to let my fingers ramble on some... LOL!!!

Take care all and enjoy your day! See ya, Nancy :)

~~~ For the Last time ~~ I watched Old Man Took bait his hook, and then throw his line, pick up his wine, He's a Friend of Mine, Known Him allllll my lifffeee and his wife, neath the swaying pine and the clicking vine, just before he left, he said now young man, Take Good Care, Don't Let the Bugs Bite, Please Make Sure & Say a Word at Night for allll your Brother's feeling blueeeeeee, bluuuuuueeee, blueeee, blueeee, blueeeeee all the time... sooo I stayed awhile took my tea alone, called it home... Sing it for Us Dewey ~~ Won't ya Pretty Plase! :) :) :)

Message: 35042 Posted: Thu Aug 19 08:34:18 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Nice Photo Out Front

Steve L.,
Nice photo on the home page of the DVD. Thank you.
Can't wait to get one.

Message: 35041 Posted: Thu Aug 19 06:39:05 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Re: Brian Wilson

To Brian Wilson fans. One of my favourite songs written by Brian Wilson is on a Solomon BURKE CD called "Don't Give Up On Me". A stellar cast of songwriters are on the album including Brian, Elvis Costello, Van Morrison, Nick Lowe, Bob Dylan, Tom Waites and others.
Brian's song is "Soul Searchin'" The album is excellent.

Message: 35040 Posted: Thu Aug 19 06:29:15 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics, Top 15 & 2 Muslims & an Israeli

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 19, 2004

64 years ago - Ginger Baker, drummer for Blind Faith and Cream, is born. (1940)

59 years ago - Ian Gillan, vocalist for Deep Purple, celebrates a birthday. (1945)

53 years ago - John Deacon, bassist for Queen, is born. (1951)

40 years ago - The Beatles first U.S. tour opens at the Cow Palace in San Francisco. Others to cross the stage include Jackie DeShannon and the Righteous Brothers. (1964)

37 years ago - The Beatles' "All You Need Is Love" hits #1 the pop charts. On the same day, Ringo Starr and his wife Maureen have a baby boy named Jason. (1967)

31 years ago - Rita Collidge and Kris Kristofferson are hitched in Malibu. The groom's minister-father presided and the best man was Bobby Neuwirth. (1973)

26 years ago - Alicia Bridges enters the soul chart with "I Love the Nightlife." Though the single will only reach as high as #31 in its seventeen weeks on the chart, the song's title will become a disco-era catch-phrase. (1978)

25 years ago - Bassist Dorsey Burnette, a member of the rockabilly band the Rock 'n' Roll Trio with his brother Johnny in the fifties, dies of a heart attack in Canoga Park. He was 46. (1979)

24 years ago - A crowd of 1,400 riots in Toronto when Alice Cooper cances a show due to illness. (1980)

24 years ago - Christopher Cross comes from nowhere and has one of the biggest hits of the year off his debut album which goes platinum on this date. He has three top fifteen hits, including the Number One, "Sailing." He will take home five Grammys in February. (1980)

7 years ago - Fleetwood Mac's reunion album "The Dance" is released. The disc was taken from two shows that were recorded live at a Warner Brothers soundstage a few months earlier. (1997)


Christopher Cross - Sailing

Well, it's not far down to paradise, at least it's not for me
And if the wind is right you can sail away and find tranquility
Oh, the canvas can do miracles, just you wait and see.
Believe me.

It's not far to never-never land, no reason to pretend
And if the wind is right you can find the joy of innocence again
Oh, the canvas can do miracles, just you wait and see.
Believe me.

Sailing takes me away to where I've always heard it could be
Just a dream and the wind to carry me
And soon I will be free

Fantasy, it gets the best of me
When I'm sailing
All caught up in the reverie, every word is a symphony
Won't you believe me?


Here are the Top Fifteen Tunes in Chicago
on August 15, 1968:

Born To Be Wild-Steppenwolf
Classical Gas-Mason Williams
People Got To Be Free-Rascals
Hello, I Love You-Doors
Sealed With A Kiss-Gary Lewis & the Playboys
Turn Around, Look At Me-Vogues
1,2,3, Red Light-1910 Fruitgum Co.
Light My Fire-José Feliciano
Stay In My Corner-Dells
Sunshine Of Your Love-Cream
Hurdy Gurdy Man-Donovan
Journey To The Center Of The Mind-Amboy Dukes
Stoned Soul Picnic-Fifth Dimension
Somebody Cares-Tommy James & the Shondells
Halfway To Paradise-Bobby Vinton


Two Muslams & an Israeli

Two Muslams boarded a shuttle out of Washington for New York One sat in the window seat, the other in the middle seat. Just before takeoff a fat, little Israeli guy got on and took the aisle seat next to the Muslams. He kicked off his shoes, wiggled his toes and was settling in when the Muslam in the window seat said, "I think I'll go up and get a coke."

"No problem," said the Israeli. "I'll get it for you." While he was gone, the Muslam picked up the Israeli's shoe and spit in it. When the Israeli returned with the coke, the other Arab said, "That looks good. I think I'll have one too."

Again, the Israeli obligingly went to fetch it, and while he is gone the Muslam other picked up the other shoe and spit in it. The Israeli returned with the coke, and they all sat back and enjoyed the short flight to New York.

As the plane was landing the Israeli slipped his feet into his shoes and knew immediately what had happened.

"How long must this go on?" he asked. "This enmity between our peoples..... this hatred... this animosity... this...this... spitting in shoes and peeing in cokes?"!


Have a great day all............

Red Oak

Message: 35039 Posted: Thu Aug 19 06:13:07 2004 By: Danae
Subject: Re: Dewey's Fish Story

Yikes! Is this a fish or a shark? I've never seen such a big one (the biggest was a tsipoura of 1,5kg, which dad caught)

Congrats, Dewey!

Message: 35038 Posted: Thu Aug 19 06:00:18 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: American Beach Boys

Hey jimbob, did you get to see The Beach Boys/America show a few years ago? Saw them at the Sydney Entertainment Centre. As Mick Jagger sings in "Around and Around" - 'Well 12 o'clock, yeah the place is packed - Front door was locked, and the place is packed.....And they kept on rockin', going around and round'.....I thought they were never going to end, went on for hours. Gerry and Willie came out and did about 5 million encores with The Beach Boys -just a great night. They had this hugh surfboard being passed over the audience's head and everyone had hawaiian shirts on and zinc cream on their noses. Just a great atmosphere. Truely they just went from one hit to another without a break.

This coming September/October, my club Rooty Hill R.S.L. (I might add, where America have played) there are two "cover" bands appearing:-(1st) "Crowded Enz" (Promo: "Presenting a tribute to Split Enz and Crowded House) and secondly, "The Beach Boys Show" (Promo: "If you love the music, the harmony and the energy of The Beach Boys", don't miss this exciting show featuring Pheonix") Like I said before, if you can't see the real thing, it's still great to get out and hear the music sung "live".

Actually just writing about "cover" bands, sometimes - like Elvis, Buddy Holly, Beatles, Janis Joplin, Roy Orbison - when those great talented artists have left us, it's good to see the songs still living on through these bands. We went and saw Fleetwood Mac at Sydney Entertainment Centre in March this year and because Christine McVie didn't tour, all her songs were completely left out. Actually she wasn't even mentioned throughout the whole concert!
About a month later, a "cover" band called "Rumours" appeared at the club and of course had a Christine stand-in and they sang all the hits. Not only did they look like the real thing, they also sounded exactly the same. So for a lot cheaper tickets we got to hear all the songs we liked.

Ordered and paid for my America-Sydney Opera House DVD today. Collect it on 9 September.

Regards, Bluey.

Message: 35037 Posted: Wed Aug 18 23:16:45 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: Dewey's Fish Story

Congratulations Dewey! That's an amazing fish (two fishes) What an accomplishment. Since it was released maybe you can catch it again next summer!? Hope it's been a nice vacation.... I hear Wisconsin is just beautiful.


Message: 35036 Posted: Wed Aug 18 22:55:06 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: "Gerry said"

Great "Gerry said" story. He is a sly little charmer, isn't he? We were just talking about that tonight on the live chat. We played yet another round of "Gerry Said" tonight. His Royal Charmingness was the main character although we did open it up to a broader range..."Willie Said" or "Dewey Said" or "Erin Said". Hey, any quote in storm....
We women can chat on all night if necessary. Right, Bones?

Anyway, didn't that "Gerry Said" moment just warm your heart, Valerie? Ah, life is good.

Any other quotes to share, folks?
Anyone? Anyone?

Message: 35035 Posted: Wed Aug 18 22:48:23 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Milwaukee show (Linda)

Very funny.
Go for it. I know it will be a burden and all but I'll appreciate the effort on my (?) behalf.(!!!)
What a nice favor from a friend.
Thank you so much,

Message: 35034 Posted: Wed Aug 18 22:43:49 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Dewey's Fish Story

Pictures of half of our DREAM TEAM!!!!
Relief for the America's Awful August withdrawal syndrome.

Dewey, so happy to see you happy. Nice fishes. Big fishes. I won't show Jeff. He'll have Muskie envy.
You're so darn cute in that second picture. Looks like you are having fun. Do it quickly, now. We need you back soon...singing and playing for us. Selfish buggers that we...I mean...that I am.

Now for a picture of the blond one...???
Maybe doing something vacationy...holding a tennis racket...swinging a golf club...singing into a microphone...woops, that's not vacationy, now is it? Selfishness rears its ugly head again.

Miss you guys. Hope all is well with everyone. Come home soon.

Message: 35033 Posted: Wed Aug 18 22:39:10 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: Dewey's Fish Story

Wow, Dewey, you've had quite a vacation! That's a really huge fish! Love the expression on your face, like "I can't believe I really caught this myself!"
Thanks, Steve, for sharing this with us!

Message: 35032 Posted: Wed Aug 18 21:14:20 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Dewey's Fish Story

Dewey sent me a mail message that I think many of you might be interested in. I believe it could be appropriately titled, "Dewey's Summer Vacation Triumph". He caught a 50 inch, 36 pound Tiger Muskie up in Wisconsin. He has been trying for 4 summers now to catch a Muskie, and never expected that lunker. He said it was quite a thrill! For the record, he released it back into the lake.

Dewey is back to work this weekend, but he's got a great fish story for the grandkids (when they arrive!).

Along with the mail message, Dewey attached a comparison shot of himself with the Muskie as well as a 30 inch Northern Pike that he also caught. Click on the links below to see the photos.

50 inch, 36 pound Tiger Muskie
30 inch Northern Pike

Message: 35031 Posted: Wed Aug 18 20:16:37 2004 By: valynda
Subject: "Gerry said"

Hey Moser,

Back in the summer of 2001, my sister and I were waiting in a group of people to talk with Gerry after a concert.

In my nervous excitement I accidentally interrupted the man next to me, and Gerry, as they were not yet finished with their conversation.

I told Gerry, "I'm so sorry, I am just so excited to meet you!"
And he said to me, "I am so excited to meet you too Valerie!

He had looked down at my Boxed CD set that Dewey had signed earlier, which read, To Valerie My Best, Dewey Bunnell "America"

I was so excited to hear him call me by name!

Bye, Valerie

P.S. I only get to check in on my fellow America fans every 2-3 weeks or so. It's always great to visit with you all!

Message: 35030 Posted: Wed Aug 18 19:27:33 2004 By: Linda
Subject: Re: Milwaukee show

And Mo, if it would make you happy, I'd even be willing to get a hug from Gerry for you. Anything for a friend, you know.

Message: 35029 Posted: Wed Aug 18 19:03:55 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Milwaukee show

Thank you, Karen. Thank you very much.

Message: 35028 Posted: Wed Aug 18 17:58:58 2004 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Brian Wilson

A few years ago Brian Wilson did a show at the Grove in Anaheim CA. & guess who was spied in the audience ? Yes, the legendary GERRY BECKLEY attended, sort of incognito. Always observing, studying & growing musically, that's GERRY. Always hoping that someday GERRY writes a song with Brian, just like GERRY did with Jimmy Webb. Remember that very fine song STEREO ?

Message: 35027 Posted: Wed Aug 18 17:20:20 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Re: Milwaukee show

Chuck and Linda - I'm so glad you're planning on going! It will be nice to meet you, Chuck. Linda & I found out last night that Gary & Jan from IL will meet up with us, too. (Maybe this time we can get a group picture of all of us.) Chuck - all of us getting a bite to eat together at some point sounds like a good idea! It's going to be a long evening waiting for AMERICA to take the stage at 10:00 p.m. We'll have to e-mail each other to figure out our strategy for when and where to meet. I'm really looking forward to it! Mo - it finally looks like we are actually up to the task you gave us a week or so ago, helping bring an end to Awful August! Will try to get some pictures for you. Karen

Message: 35026 Posted: Wed Aug 18 16:26:12 2004 By: Sheldon
Subject: Re: Brian Wilson

One of Brian's shows will be at the Keswick Theatre in Glenside (near Philly), PA on Friday, October 8th...

Message: 35025 Posted: Wed Aug 18 15:18:44 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: Re: Brian Wilson

You lucky people! Brian Wilson is the show I most want to see. There was talk of him touring here in NZ, but it didnt eventuate. I thought the source was pretty reliable as it was Jeff Foskett who told me! The dvd Brian Wilson on Tour, his first solo shows from 2000 I think, is super! Talk about the audience getting into it! If anyone is to be called a legend, it is him.

Message: 35024 Posted: Wed Aug 18 14:45:07 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Brian Wilson

If you haven't heard, Brian Wilson will be touring his "lost masterpiece" Smile for about 20 dates beginning at the end of September. Although works from Smile will be featured, he will also be doing some Beach Boys material. This is one of those "see it while you can" shows -- with someone like Brian Wilson, you never know if this opportunity will come along again. Should be a fantastic show.

Message: 35023 Posted: Wed Aug 18 14:10:11 2004 By: Moser
Subject: For Those (Like Me) Who Need A Fix

I haven't done this in a while, but it's the middle of America's Awful August and I have sunk to desparation. Yes, it's true...I was cruising Corbis today. [Head hung low.] I'm sorry, but I needed a fix.
So, for those of you who may be suffering similar withdrawal, I thought I would try to share this photo of our guys. I've not posted a link in a while, so I hope I get this right. If not, I'll try it again.

For a fix of lovely dimples and great jeans (or genes, as it were) from the era when they tucked their shirts in:

See you at chat.

Message: 35022 Posted: Wed Aug 18 14:04:44 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Tea At the Troub

You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.
Chin up,

Message: 35021 Posted: Wed Aug 18 13:04:01 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Tea At the Troub

Sorry I am in Gerry's Favorite town ( 29 Palms) dealing with a serious family crisis. Keep a good thought for me and my family. Thanks.

Message: 35020 Posted: Wed Aug 18 12:00:21 2004 By: Linda
Subject: Milwaukee show

Looks like I should be able to make the Milwaukee concert! Now how will we get the crowd to show their appreciation at the end of SGH, but not over-do it so maybe we'll get All My Life?
To anyone going to this show, I just read the following:
The ENCORE: a junior Summerfest happening September 2-4.
Bring any Roundy's branded non-perishable food item to the Mid Gate to benefit the Hunger Task Force and get FREE ADMISSION to the Encore.
I can't wait!!!

Message: 35019 Posted: Wed Aug 18 07:56:35 2004 By: Chuck
Subject: Re: OT: Sad News .....Dan Fogelberg

I am going to try to make it. We'll have to come up with a meeting place....maybe a burger beforehand?


Message: 35018 Posted: Wed Aug 18 06:37:42 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics &

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 18, 2004

48 years ago - Elvis Presley's "Hound Dog" enters the R&B chart at #11. Peacock records releases Big Mama Thornton's original version the same day. It was an R&B Number One for Thornton in 1953. (1956)

48 years ago - Little Willie John's original version of "Fever" enters the pop charts at #24. The song will be a big hit for both the McCoys and Peggy Lee. (1956)

42 years ago - Ringo Starr makes his first appearance as a Beatle at a Cavern Club gig. (1962)

42 years ago - Peter, Paul & Mary's "If I Had A Hammer" is released. (1962)

31 years ago - The Doobie Brothers' "China Grove" is released. (1973)

27 years ago - Funeral services for Elvis Presley are held at Graceland. Inside are 150 mourners, outside are 75,000. Presley was entombed in a white marble mausoleum at Forest Hill Cemetary in Memphis near the grave of his mother, Gladys. (1977)

27 years ago - The Police perform as a trio for the first time after guitarist Henri Padovani leaves the band. (1977)

25 years ago - British rocket Nick Lowe and U.S. rock singer Carlene Carter are wed in Los Angeles. She is the step daughter of Johnny Cash. (1979)

23 years ago - The Moody Blues come together to record their ninth L.P., "Long Distance Voyager." It goes gold.The band leaves on a major tour. (1981)

18 years ago - Bon Jovi releases its "Slippery When Wet" album. (1986)

13 years ago - Musician Billy Preston was arrested in Los Angeles after a 16 year old boy reported being sexually attacked. (1991)

12 years ago - Nirvana's Kurt Cobain and Hole's Courtney Love become parents to daughter Frances Bean.

7 years ago - The Rolling Stones announce the plans for their upcoming "Bridges To Babylon" tour in grand style. The band rolls up to the Brooklyn Bridge in New York in a red '55 Cadillac with Mick at the wheel. (1997)


The McCoys - Fever

- Artists: The McCoys
- peak Billboard position # 7 in 1965
- previously charted by Little Willie John (# 24 in 1956)
- previously charted by Peggy Lee (# 8 in 1958)
- later charted by Rita Coolidge (# 76 in 1973)
- Words and Music by John Davenport - and Eddie Cooley

Never know how much I love you
Never know how much I care
When you put your arms around me
I get a fever that's so hard to bear
You give me fever (you give me fever) when you kiss me
Fever when you hold me tight (you give me fever)
Fever ... in the mornin'
Fever all through the night

Sun lights up the day time
Moon lights up the night
I light up when you call my name
'cause I know you're gonna treat me right
You give me fever (you give me fever) when you kiss me
Fever when you hold me tight (you give me fever)
Fever ... in the mornin'
Fever all through the night (WOW!!)


Two Nuns On Vacation

Two nuns went on a short vacation from the Vatican and were on a driving tour through Europe. While driving through Transylvania a little vampire appeared on their windshield and they couldn’t get rid of him. Sister Margaret suggested that Sister Mary who was driving turn on the windshield wipers which didn’t help. He hung on and let out a terrible blood-chilling growl. Then Sister Margaret said that she had filled the windshield washer with Holy Water before leaving the Vatican and suggested that she spray him with Holy Water. Sister Mary turned on the washers and wipers and as the Holy Water struck the vampire it burned him and made him growl and hiss even louder but still he hung on to the windshield. Then Sister Margaret said “well Sister Mary, show him your cross”. So Sister Mary rolled down her window, stuck her fist out and shook it and said “Get The Hell Off Our Car!!!!”


Happy Hump Day!!!!!!!!!!!

Go for the Gold, USA...........

Red Oak

Message: 35017 Posted: Wed Aug 18 06:31:42 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Destruction along the Florida Turnpike- My "Ventura Highway"

"A hurricane's just another name for the torment in a man's soul" or so it goes as written by an extremely talented musician that many of us know and love.

Serge ~ Glad you didn't face the storm head-on.

I trust that the many America fans in Florida weathered the storm. Hope so, anyway.

Message: 35016 Posted: Tue Aug 17 20:36:31 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: America

Ticketmaster is already selling tickets for an America show on September 17 at a venue called Pops in Sauget, IL which is very close to St. Louis, MO. Erin hasn't listed it on, but since the tickets are already on sale, it's worth mentioning here. Click here for a link to the Ticketmaster web page selling the tickets.

Message: 35015 Posted: Tue Aug 17 19:12:49 2004 By: TommieGirl
Subject: Re: OT: Sad News .....Dan Fogelberg

Your post was very moving, Chuck. I am sorry for your loss - I can't imagine.

(By the way, I am also number 7 of 7, born in 71. My family is blended - 6 girls and 1 very harassed boy.)

Message: 35014 Posted: Tue Aug 17 16:16:50 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Re: OT: Sad News .....Dan Fogelberg

Chuck, that is very touching. How nice of you to honor your dad that way. You must have had to be very strong to speak in front of everyone at such a sad time for you - there probably aren't many people that could do that. I'm also sorry for your loss.

We have some things in common - I'm the youngest of 6, born in '69; and I have to wonder if it was what my older siblings listened to that made me like the kind of music I do.

We have to try to get our Wisconsin/northern Illinois group together for the show on Sept. 2 in Milwaukee. How about it - who's in?


Message: 35013 Posted: Tue Aug 17 14:41:50 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Destruction along the Florida Turnpike- My "Ventura Highway"

Hi all!
We just returned by car from a road trip and a great vacation to South Florida, South Beach in Miami Beach to be specific, and I could not believe the destruction on a section of the drive along the Florida Turnpike- Mangled highway metal signs, advertising signs completely blown away, a myriad of uprooted trees and bushes littering the curbside and worse of all, residential roofs completely sheared by hurricane Charley's powerful winds. An almost surreal landscape and a very different one from the usually sunny panorama of rolling hills, orange groves and Sabal Palmetto palms that are part of Florida's landscape. It made me feel blessed that the hurricane had spared the Miami area where we was staying. As we drove further North, I was glad to see the many convoys of help trucks rushing South from neighboring states to assist the storm victims.

This is a road trip that I've made many times, and even with the grim picture that surrounded us, I couldn't help but remember that it was on this same road that I first heard America's "Ventura Highway" (my favorite America song) on a trip to Disney World back in 1972~ It was an early morning drive from Miami to Orlando, and as the song played on the radio, my cousin Marilyn, my then fiancee, Lourdes, and I were all singing in the front seat to this "America Anthem" and the lyrics, the vocal harmonies (not ours) and melody all seemed to capture the magic of that moment so perfectly.

It just goes to show that it's nice to have an America song memory to help ease the pain at times.:0)


Message: 35012 Posted: Tue Aug 17 07:41:08 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Thoughts

<<There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness.">>

Harumph. Very wise words.
I think I can see that line. Question I in the wrong lane???

Message: 35011 Posted: Tue Aug 17 07:37:54 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: OT: Sad News .....Dan Fogelberg

I am sorry for your loss.

Message: 35010 Posted: Tue Aug 17 07:06:54 2004 By: Chuck
Subject: Re: OT: Sad News .....Dan Fogelberg

This is almost surreal...

I have always liked Dan Fogelberg. My wife and I chose "Longer" to be the song that we danced to at our wedding over eight years ago. It has so much meaning, and we both stop and listen when we hear his music.

My dad died this past February. I spoke on behalf of my family at his funeral, thanking so many people and sharing some lighter moments. At the very end, I mentioned how my older brothers and sisters (I am the youngest of 7, born in 71) had such an impact on the music I like to listen to. Musical groups I like are so much like America--John Denver, Jim Croce, Dan Fogelberg, The Eagles, etc. And to finish my comments, I quoted a verse from a Dan Fogelberg song that was, and still is, so pertinent-- "Leader of the Band":

I thank you for the music and your stories of the road
I thank you for the freedom when it came my time to go
I thank you for the kindness and the times when you got tough
And, papa, I don't think I said 'I love you' near enough

The leader of the band is tired
and his eyes are gowing old
but his blood runs through my instrument
and his song is in my soul

My life has been a poor attempt
to imitate the man
I'm just a living legacy
to the leader of the band

The thing that really makes this hit home?

My dad died from prostate cancer.


Message: 35009 Posted: Tue Aug 17 06:55:01 2004 By: Chuck
Subject: Re: OT: Sad News .....Dan Fogelberg

This is almost surreal...

I have always liked Dan Fogelberg. My wife and I chose "Longer" to be the song that we danced to at our wedding over eight years ago. It has so much meaning, and we both stop and listen when we hear his music.

My dad died this past February. I spoke on behalf of my family at his funeral, thanking so many people and sharing some lighter moments. At the very end, I mentioned how my older brothers and sisters (I am the youngest of 7, born in 71) had such an impact on the music I like to listen to. Musical groups I like are so much like America--John Denver, Jim Croce, Dan Fogelberg, The Eagles, etc. And to finish my comments, I quoted a verse from a Dan Fogelberg song that was, and still is, so pertinent-- "Leader of the Band":

I thank you for the music and your stories of the road
I thank you for the freedom when it came my time to go
I thank you for the kindness and the times when you got tough
And, papa, I don't think I said 'I love you' near enough

The leader of the band is tired
and his eyes are gowing old
but his blood runs through my instrument
and his song is in my soul

My life has been a poor attempt
to imitate the man
I'm just a living legacy
to the leader of the band

The thing that really makes this hit home?

My dad died from prostate cancer.


Message: 35008 Posted: Tue Aug 17 06:31:07 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Twist & Shout

Joe Doyle has another instrumental for us. This one is another cover of a Beatles song. Click here to listen/download Joe's cover of "Twist and Shout". Great job, Joe!

Click here to see links to all of Joe's covers.

Message: 35007 Posted: Tue Aug 17 06:30:02 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Schroeder Rawks

I just got to read the Sunday comics this morning. Don't ask. I was pleased to see Schroeder was featured. Of course, this always makes me smile since it is only one degree of separation from America. Well, at least in my book it is.
Here's the link:

Message: 35006 Posted: Tue Aug 17 06:16:16 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Thoughts

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 17, 2004

55 years ago - Sib Hashian, drummer for Boston, is born. (1949)

46 years ago - Former Go-Go's lead singer Belinda Carlisle is born. (1958)

44 years ago - The Beatles begin what would become a three-month engagement at the Indra Club in Hamburg, Germany. It's their first appearance away from England. (1960)

40 years ago - The Kinks "You Really Got Me" is released in the U.K. on Pye Records. (1964)

40 years ago - Former Lone Justice lead singer Maria McKee is born. (1964)

38 years ago - John Lennon makes another controversial statement in front of a microphone. In Toronto, he expresses his admiration for American draft dodgers. (1966)

36 years ago - McGraw-Hill rushes Hunter Davies' authorized biography of the Beatles to bookstores ahead of schedule to prevent loss of sales to Julian Fast's unauthorized "The Beatles: The Real Story." Fast admits he has never met one of the Fab Four. (1968)

36 years ago - Deep Purple's "Hush" is released. (1968)

34 years ago - Christine McVie joins Fleetwood Mac. It's the band founded by her husband John, and she joins two months after she said she would retire from performing. (1970)

31 years ago - One of the original Temptations, Paul Williams is found dead by police. It is ruled a suicide. He was 34. (1973)

30 years ago - Patrick Moraz replaces Rick Wakeman in Yes. (1974)

30 years ago - Bad Company's "Can't Get Enough" is released. (1974)

27 years ago - The day after Elvis Presley's death, President Jimmy Carter issues the following statement, "Elvis Presley's death deprives our country of a part of itself. He was unique and irreplaceable. More than twenty years ago, he burst upon the scene with an impact that was unprecedented and will probably never be equaled. His music and his personality, fusing the styles of white country and black rhythm and blues, permanently changed the face of American popular culture. His following was immense and he was a symbol to people the world over, of the vitality, rebelliousness and good humor of his country." Or as James Brown once put it, "he taught white America to get down." (1977)

27 years ago - Florists Transworld Delivery (FTD) reports that in one day the number of orders for flowers to be delivered to Graceland has surpassed the number for any other event in the company's history. (1977)

18 years ago - Def Leppard drummer Rick Allen plays his first UK concert with the band since losing his left arm in a car accident. Prior to the show, Allen and the band had played a few low key dates in Ireland with Status Quo. (1986)

18 years ago - 42 people were beaten or stabbed at a Run D.M.C. concert in Long Beach. (1986)

8 years ago - Depeche Mode leader Dave Gahan attempts suicide by slashing his wrists at a Sunset Strip hotel. He's hospitalized and recovers. (1996)


Deep Purple - Hush

I got a certan little girl she's on my mind
No doubt about it she looks so fine
She's the best girl that I ever had
Sometimes she's gonna make me feel so bad

Hush, hush
I thought I heard her calling my name now
Hush, hush
She broke my heart but I love her just the same now
Hush, hush
Thought I heard her calling my name now
Hush, hush
I need her loving and I'm not to blame now

(Love, love)
They got it early in the morning
(Love, love)
They got it late in the evening
(Love, love)
Well, I want that, need it
(Love, love)
Oh, I gotta gotta have it

She's got loving like quicksand
Only took one touch of her hand
To blow my mind and I'm in so deep
That I can't eat and I can't sleep


Thoughts of the day

Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not walk ahead of me, for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me either. Just pretty much leave me the hell alone.

It's always darkest before dawn. So if you're going to steal your
neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.

Sex is like air. It's not important unless you aren't getting any.

Don't be irreplaceable. If you can't be replaced, you can't be promoted.

Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.

Never test the depth of the water with both feet.

If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of car payments.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes.
That way, when you criticize them you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish,and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.

If you lend someone $20 and never see that person again, it was
probably worth it.

Don't worry; it only seems kinky the first time.

Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side,and it holds the universe together.

There are two theories to arguing with women. Neither one works.

Generally speaking, you aren't learning much when your lips are moving.

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

Everyone seems normal until you get to know them


Think positive, only 17 days til Labor Day Weekend.

Red Oak

Message: 35005 Posted: Mon Aug 16 21:14:02 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Dewey Said

When I was aproaching the signing table a guy a little way in front of me had an old rather tattered "Homecoming" LP. I heard Dewey saying "Wow, thats an oldie".
A lot of people were having their new T shirts signed, but I wanted to wear I just had them sign my "Encore" cd. I should have brought 2 or 3. I never thought about that? HHHmm?
Mark M

Message: 35004 Posted: Mon Aug 16 20:52:37 2004 By: nanci
Subject: Tea At the Troub

Hey Robyn or anyone did you see TEA Sunday eve? I got their right when the set was ending. they did not post the time correctly. I am Totally bummed :(
we drove 1 hour to turn around and drive hime. does anyone know where Zens Is? I guess TEA is playing on the 17th of Sept there.

Message: 35003 Posted: Mon Aug 16 20:49:26 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: Dewey Said

During a recent signing at the t-shirt and autograph table at the Mohegan Sun I had a few cd covers which I was glad to get an autograph on. But in my nervousness I mistakenly gave Dewey the wrong cd's to sign. When I gave him Gerry's Van Go Gan and the remix he passed them over and said "Sorry, but I can't sign these two since they're not mine" but gladly signed three or four others. I don't recall my reply either... but probably something inept or similar such as "sorry about that" I thought it was great how they sign anything and everything and also seem or appear a little surprised at seeing a Homecoming or Harbor Lp or cd... almost as if it's the first time they've seen it. But those t-shirts really sell out pretty quickly!


Message: 35002 Posted: Mon Aug 16 20:32:12 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: OT: Sad News .....Dan Fogelberg

Bummer... I did see the "advanced prostate cancer" mentioned on his OFFICIAL website. I had thought perhaps it wasn't necessarily so since it wasn't mentioned as "advanced" as directed here, but unfortunately so after all.

Message: 35001 Posted: Mon Aug 16 20:15:18 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: OT: Sad News .....Dan Fogelberg

I went to Dan Fogelberg's website to read about his illness. It mentioned his Fall Tour being cancelled alright due to being treated for prostate cancer but I didn't read anywhere that it was in an "advanced" state. That may be of some comfort to his fans here. Maybe it was mentioned elsewhere but I sure didn't see it there.

Message: 35000 Posted: Mon Aug 16 18:30:24 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Re: Gerry Said...

The thing I liked most that Gerry said was actually something he said to my husband, Mike. Mike had so kindly went out and walked a block or two to the car to get my camera so I could have a picture taken with Dewey and Gerry. While he was gone, Gerry asked if I lived in Madison (WI) - where we were at the time, for the concert - and I told him no, I live about 20 miles south of Madison, my husband Mike is a dairy farmer, but I work in an office in Madison. So later on, when Mike arrived with the camera and was about to take the picture of me and Gerry - I introduced Gerry to Mike, and Gerry said, "Dairy Farmer Mike!" It was so neat that he listened so well to what I had said, and it was pretty cool to have one of the guys in the band I've admired for so long talking with my dear husband, even if briefly.

I can't think of an exact quote from Dewey - but not only did he introduce me to everyone at his table, when Mike came in Dewey was nice enough to stand up and make the introductions all over again to Mike. (He must have known I was too nervous to remember all the names - lol!)

Message: 34999 Posted: Mon Aug 16 18:00:09 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Re: OT: Messages of Support for Dan F.

Very best wishes to Dan Fogelberg - and Steve L., thanks for sharing your encouraging success story. It's always good to hear about those victories over illness.

Message: 34998 Posted: Mon Aug 16 17:27:45 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: OT: Messages of Support for Dan F.

Hi Everyone :)

Thanks rc for Sharing this News with Us ~ I just sent a Message to the living legacy site. I have loved Dan Fogelberg's music since the year 1978, it was at that time that I bought his album Netherlands and Souveniers ~ I always have loved the way Dan's voice can accompany and set the mood for each of his songs sooo Uniquely. His Songs have always had a very Calming effect on me, and his Lyrics can touch me down deep where it counts. I Hope that just as his Music has been there for all of us, that it will be there for Him as a Source of Strength and Comfort, at this his time of need. I wish he and his family all the best and My Thoughts & Prayers will be with Him. ~~ Such fitting Lyrics is on the homepage of this living legacy site.. I knew in an instance it was his song "Icarus Ascending" from his Full Circle cd.... it is one of My most Fave from that album and the Message weaved in his lyrics of this song are soooooooo Inspiring... Wow ~~ I have it playing here right now, and I am covered with spinetingling chills.. What a Song, What a Message ~~ Let My fingertips sing it for you Dan ~~~ Don't Look Down, Though your Heart may be weary, Don't Look Down, Though your wings are on fire, Don't Look Down, Though the night may seem endless, There's a reason you're flying this fast and this far Let Your Faith Be Your Strength And Your Love Be Your Guiding Star ~~~ Take Care Dan! :)

Hi there SteveL ~~ Thanks for sharing your Success with your bout with this Illness! :)

Take care everybody, Nancy :)

~~ There is no Darkness in this Place that we're Bound, LOVE is the Only Thing that Matters ~~ Ooooh yea yeah ooooooooh ya, oooooh yeah yeah yooooo ooh... Sing it again for me Dan F :)

Message: 34997 Posted: Mon Aug 16 16:55:39 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Gerry Said...

jy: (as we shook hands) "Hi Gerry, I'm Johnny."

GB: "Yeah, Johnny Yee!"

If there should ever be a next time, it will probably go something like this ----> GB: "Look Dew, there's Johnny Yee. Quick, duck!"

So sorry to hear the news about Dan Fogelberg's illness. Fortunately, it sounds like he's got a very positive attitude.

Message: 34996 Posted: Mon Aug 16 16:45:41 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: OT: Sad News .....Dan Fogelberg

I too love the music of Dan Fogelberg and only wish him the best.
I have a co worker that had the same diagnoses and he has been cancer free for at least 10 years now.
Good wish's Dan, love ya man !!
Mark M

Message: 34995 Posted: Mon Aug 16 16:38:43 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Dewey Said

At least he didn't ask what track it was ??
Would you have known?
Mark M

Message: 34994 Posted: Mon Aug 16 13:19:09 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: OT: Messages of Support for Dan F.

A little over 10 years ago I was diagnosed with prostate cancer and it will be 10 years ago this September that I had a successful operation to remove the cancer. At that time the doctor told me that if I was still around in 5 years, he would consider me cured. Well, I'm still here and kicking as one of many cancer survivors. Prostate cancer is one of the most treatable cancers around and I know that Dan, Jean, and etc., will appreciate everyone's thoughts and prayers (as one who knows what they're going through). There are other cancer survivors and friends/spouses of cancer survivors who read/post regularly on this chat folder who probably have similar feelings. My thoughts are with you Dan!

Message: 34993 Posted: Mon Aug 16 12:55:55 2004 By: rc
Subject: OT: Messages of Support for Dan F.

The Living Legacy site has set up a place for anyone who wishes to leave messages of support, postitive thoughts etc. for Dan, and Jean..

Message: 34992 Posted: Mon Aug 16 12:43:23 2004 By: Andy
Subject: Re: OT: Sad News .....Dan Fogelberg

OMG! That is absolutely horrible news. Just sickening. My thoughts are with Dan.

Message: 34991 Posted: Mon Aug 16 12:32:00 2004 By: rc
Subject: OT: Sad News .....Dan Fogelberg

This was posted on his site.......... regrets to announce the cancellation of the Fall 2004 Solo Acoustic Tour. Dan has been recently diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer and has entered treatment. He apologizes for any inconvenience the cancellation of the concerts may cause his fans. Dan is confident he will be able to fight this illness. Your prayers, good wishes and positive thoughts will be very much appreciated.

My prayers and good wishes go out to Mr. Fogelberg.

Message: 34990 Posted: Mon Aug 16 11:03:38 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Dewey Said

Mo's topic of "Gerry Said" reminded me of a recent incident involving something Dewey said to me. At the autograph table at the Emerald Queen show, there was someone just in front of me who asked Dewey which album Hangover was from. Dewey said "I think it's from Alibi, but let's ask Anita," and he turned to me. Way to put a gal on the spot, LOL! I replied "Dewey, I didn't realize there was going to be a quiz!"

Message: 34989 Posted: Mon Aug 16 08:29:19 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics &

"27 years ago - The King is dead. Elvis Presley dies in his Memphis mansion, Graceland. According to Presley's girlfriend, Ginger Alden, she awoke in the afternoon and noticed he was not in bed. She found in lying on the floor of the bathroom. Efforts to resuscitate him were unsuccessful and at 3:30 p.m. he was pronounced dead. According to reports, the death resulted from coronary arrhythmia. Within the next couple of days, the death becomes one of the biggest media events in the past twenty years. It also sparks debates on whether or not the death was staged and if he was still alive and well. Within a few hours after the announcement, thousands of fans are enroute to Memphis to pay their respects. Elvis Presley was 42. (1977)"

If he is really dead, how come they keep coming up with "new" recordings by him every few years??? ;)

Message: 34988 Posted: Mon Aug 16 06:08:50 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics &

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 16, 2004

47 years ago - INXS guitarist Tim Farriss is born. (1957)

42 years ago - Ringo Starr replaces Pete Best as the Beatles' drummer. (1962)

35 years ago - Hippie leader Abbie Hoffman is knocked offstage by Pete Townshend while attempting to make a political statement during the Who's set at Woodstock. Later, Townshend claims he didn't know it was Hoffman at the time. (1969)

30 years ago - The Ramones play their first show at CBGB's in New York's Bowery district. (1974)

29 years ago - Vocalist and songwriter Peter Gabriel delivers a statement to the press announcing he's leaving Genesis. He made the decision back in December but stuck around until contracted tours were done. He had a desire to be with his family and said, "As an artist, I need to absorb a wide variety of experiences. It's difficult to respond to intuition and impulse within the long-term planning the band needed." (1975)

28 years ago - Cliff Richards begins an SRO, 20 date tour of the Soviet union at Lenningrad's Hall of the October. The crowd's enthusiasm of his performance horrifies Russian officals who ask him if he wants barricades put up between himself and the audience for later shows. He declines the offer. (1976)

27 years ago - The King is dead. Elvis Presley dies in his Memphis mansion, Graceland. According to Presley's girlfriend, Ginger Alden, she awoke in the afternoon and noticed he was not in bed. She found in lying on the floor of the bathroom. Efforts to resuscitate him were unsuccessful and at 3:30 p.m. he was pronounced dead. According to reports, the death resulted from coronary arrhythmia. Within the next couple of days, the death becomes one of the biggest media events in the past twenty years. It also sparks debates on whether or not the death was staged and if he was still alive and well. Within a few hours after the announcement, thousands of fans are enroute to Memphis to pay their respects. Elvis Presley was 42. (1977)

25 years ago - Hardcore KISS fans are dismayed to hear "I Was Made for Lovin' You," a song with a disco beat. Still, the song climbs up to #11 and goes gold on this date. (1979)

25 years ago - The biggest single of the summer is The Knack's "My Sharona," which goes gold. The success of the group is the gimmick of Beatle-esque posturing which the group treats as tounge-in-cheek. The Knack disbands less than two years later. (1979)

21 years ago - Paul Simon and actress Carrie Fisher get married. They would divorce in 1985. (1983)

19 years ago - Madonna and actor Sean Penn get married in Malibu, as helicopters with photographers hovered overhead. They would divorce in 1989. (1985)


Cliff Richard - Devil Woman

I've had nothing but bad luck
Since the day I saw the cat at my door
So I came here to you, sweet lady
Answering your mystical call
Crystal ball on the table
Showing the future, the past
Same cat with them evil eyes
And I knew it was a spell she'd cast.

She's just a devil woman
With evil on her mind
Beware the devil woman
She's gonna get you
She's just a devil woman
With evil on her mind
Beware the devil woman
She's gonna get you from behind.

Give me the ring on your finger
Let me see the lines of your hand
I can see me a tall dark stranger
Giving you what you hadn't planned
I drank the potion she offered me
I found myself on the floor
Then I looked in those big green eyes
And I wondered what I came there for.


Husband Wanted -

A lonely older lady, aged 75, decided it was time to get married. She put a want ad in the local paper that read:

"HUSBAND WANTED. Must be in my age group, must not beat me, must not run around on me, and must still be good in bed! All applicants must apply in person."

On the second day of the ad she heard the doorbell ring. Much to her dismay, when she opened the door, there sat a man in a wheelchair. He had no arms or legs.

She asked sardonically "You're not expecting me to consider you, are you? Just look at you----you have no legs!"

The old man smiled! , "Therefore no chance to run around on you!"

She snorted, "You have no arms either!"

Again the old man smiled. "Nor can I beat you!"

The old lady raised her eyebrows and gazed at him intensely.

"Are you still good in bed?" she asked.The old man smirked and said, "I rang the doorbell didn't I?"


Hope everyone is ready for a rousing week ahead. Make the most of every day.

Go USA in the Olympic Games!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Our Dream Team looks great don't it?

Red Oak

Message: 34987 Posted: Mon Aug 16 04:18:32 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Gerry Said...

As I recall, Dewey introduced me to Gerry, saying this is Mark. Gerry said hi Mark, signed my CD, Than a hand shake and thank you Mark. Thats about it?
Mark M

Message: 34986 Posted: Mon Aug 16 00:08:20 2004 By: TommieGirl
Subject: Re: Gerry Said...

I am so sorry I missed the chat tonight! Sounds like a great conversation!

I recently posted about my first meeting with Gerry and Dewey in July, where I said that I would be reporting about the Emerald Queen concert to the chat room. Gerry asked who I was, and when I told him, he said, "Oh, yes! We read it..." He said that it was good to meet me, and told me that I had just missed Anita. I don't remember my reply - something brilliant like, "Oh, that's too bad," I think. I was so nervous that I was visibly shaking, and I think he must have noticed, because he nodded toward Dewey sitting on his left and said, "He's Dewey, "I'm Gerry." I had to laugh, and it relaxed me. The line behind us was long, so I quickly got my autographs and made my exit...

Hope all is well with everyone. Catch up with you on Wednesday!


Message: 34985 Posted: Sun Aug 15 22:18:48 2004 By: Andy
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Georgia Peach (One More Thing)

"Regarding the incredible noise level at Shea Stadium (for those who have never heard), McCartney said he was playing a particular Beatles song only to found out afterwards that Lennon was actually singing lead to an entirely DIFFERENT song. Now, that's wild!"
Geezzz!!! Did they even HAVE monitors back then?? Makes you wonder.

Message: 34984 Posted: Sun Aug 15 22:14:45 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Gerry Said...

On the live chat tonight, we got to talking about things that Gerry has said to each of us when we were lucky enough to meet him in person. So, I suggested that we "go around the room" and give a quote of something Gerry had said to each of us in person. So, for those of you who have had the lucky pleasure of meeting Mr. Beckley, would you like to share a pearl of the conversation that transpired between you, please? That is, share it if you were coherent enough to recall it!! (It is sometimes such a surreal moment that our mental faculties are somewhat lacking.)
Anyone? Anyone?

Message: 34983 Posted: Sun Aug 15 19:50:59 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Georgia Peach (One More Thing)

Regarding the incredible noise level at Shea Stadium (for those who have never heard), McCartney said he was playing a particular Beatles song only to found out afterwards that Lennon was actually singing lead to an entirely DIFFERENT song. Now, that's wild!

Message: 34982 Posted: Sun Aug 15 18:58:55 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Georgia Peach

Having seen the Beatles' 1965 Shea Stadium performance on TV, I recall them having a major blast especially Lennon. I can't remember ever seeing Lennon on TV having more fun than then. I also recall McCartney saying decades later that the foursome couldn't even hear themselves playing and singing because of the incredible noise level coming from the audience. So much so that they were just winging it as best they could.

Message: 34981 Posted: Sun Aug 15 15:38:01 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Georgia On My Mind

Oh, Please!!!DanC.

Message: 34980 Posted: Sun Aug 15 14:42:02 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Georgia On My Mind

The Beatles popularity now can't even be compared to what it was in 1966....therefore the statement today holds no water. It's all under the bridge now.
Mark M

Message: 34979 Posted: Sun Aug 15 13:07:42 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Georgia On My Mind

"38 years ago - London's Catholic Herald calls John Lennon's apology for his remark about the Beatles being more popular than Jesus Christ, "arrogant." However the publication admits, as Lennon asserted, it's probably true. (1966)"

It may have been true, but the question remains to be seen how popular will John Lennon be in 2000 years?

Message: 34978 Posted: Sun Aug 15 12:59:19 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: OT -- Prince

My husband and I were reading in today's Sunday paper about the current tour and were wishing we could see it.

I don't know if this has ever been discussed here before, but I've always wondered if Prince got the idea for the phrase "Purple Rain" from the Ventura Highway lyrics!

-- Madolyn

Message: 34977 Posted: Sun Aug 15 12:43:09 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Georgia Peach

Red, you had me on the floor with that application! Years ago, my best friend gave me a job application. I was looking for a part-time job while I was in college. I laughed so hard when I read it. It was for the Mafia. (By the way, my friend is Italian.) Don't still have that joke, tho.
My cousin was at that Beatles concert at Shea Stadium in 1965! I think she was 17. I was too young then, only 12. Paul was my favorite Beatle.

Message: 34976 Posted: Sun Aug 15 06:57:57 2004 By: Julie
Subject: Re: OT -- Prince

Amen to the whole paragraph Anita, Thursday night's show was just as you described it. I am still reeling, he has polished to a perfect shine and found a way to go above and beyond himself since I saw him in the beginning of the Musicology tour in April. He jammed from 8:30 to 11:00 p.m. Now that's a concert. Wearing my Musicology 2004ever T Shirt to work tomorrow. (:


Message: 34975 Posted: Sun Aug 15 06:55:59 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Welcome Aboard Mateys

I just wanted to say welcome aboard to you, Scott C. And, I wasn't sure if Shiloh is also new??!!. Either way, welcome to you, too.

I am listening to Alibi this morning. What a great album this is. We were prompted to play it for some Pennsylvania relatives who are in town for the weekend once the kids started singing Hangover this morning.

Happy Sunday,

Message: 34974 Posted: Sun Aug 15 06:52:40 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Georgia Peach

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 15, 2004

46 years ago - Buddy Holly and Maria Elena Santiago get married in a private ceremony at his parents home in Lubbock, Texas. They had met only two months before. (1958)

40 years ago - Billboard reports MGM has signed the Dave Clark Five to a movie contract. They will go on to star in "Having a Wild Weekend." (1964)

39 years ago - The Beatles set a record for having the most attendees at a concert. 56,000 pack Shea Stadium in New York, the largest single crowd to attend a rock & roll concert. (1965)

35 years ago - The Woodstock Music and Art Fair opens for three days on Max Yasgur's farm in Bethel, New York. Over 400,000 attend, most without tickets, which prompts officials to say the festival is open and free. Those up on stage include Jimi Hendrix, Santana, Sly and the Family Stone, the Who, the Grateful Dead, Joan Baez, Janis Joplin, Joe Cocker, Canned Heat, Crosby, Still Nash & Young and the Jefferson Airplane among others. Things that helped make Woodstock a unique event included, but were not limited to, rampant drug use, not enough food, and sanitation, three deaths, two births and four miscarriages. (1969)

24 years ago - Former Beatle George Harrison's book "I Me Mine" is published in London. (1980)

23 years ago - Stevie Wonder, Grover Washington Jr, Evelyn King and others pull in a crowd of over 50,000 to the Rose Bowl in Pasadena for the Black Family Fair. (1981)

13 years ago - Paul Simon plays a free concert at New York's Central Park in front of an estimated 750,000 people. (1991)

8 years ago - A woman's shelter on Long Island, New York refused to accept money from a benefit concert featuring James Brown. Brown's wife had accused him of assaulting her in the past. (1996)


You Got What It Takes - Dave Clark Five

Ow! You don't drive a big fast car, no
You don't look a-like a movie star
And on your money we won't get far
But baby, you got what it takes, Oh! to satisfy
You got what it takes to set my soul on fire
But oh, oh, whoa-oh, whoa-oh whoa-oh-oh yeah
You got what it takes for me

Ow! You don't live in a beautiful place
And you don't dress in the best of taste
Oh! Nature didn't give you such a beautiful face
But baby, you got what it takes, Oh! to satisfy
You got what it takes to set my soul on fire
But oh, oh, whoa-oh, whoa-oh whoa-oh-oh yeah
You got what it takes for me

Now when you're near me, ooo-wee
My head goes around and around
And when you kiss me, a-little girl
My love comes tumblin' down, you send me

You don't live in a beautiful place
Oh, you don't dress in the best of taste
And nature didn't give you such a beautiful face
But baby, you got what it takes, Oh! to satisfy
You got what it takes to set my soul on fire
But oh, oh, whoa-oh, whoa-oh whoa-oh-oh yeah
You got what it takes for me


Georgia Application(Part 2 of 2)




LENGTH OF RIGHT LEG: _________________ LENGTH OF LEFT LEG: _________________

SIGNATURE (ONE `X' WILL DO) ___________________________ DATED: ____________


Have a super Sunday

Red Oak

Message: 34973 Posted: Sat Aug 14 21:06:33 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Listening Party - View From The Ground

Tonight's listening party will feature View From The Ground. Same time, same station -- that's 10 PM EDT, 7 PM PDT in the chat room for you newcomers. Hope you can make it.

Message: 34972 Posted: Sat Aug 14 21:00:57 2004 By: Anita
Subject: OT -- Prince

Prince is arguably one of the most talented artists in music today, and he proved that for the third straight sold-out performance tonight in Washington, DC. Even if his isn’t your brand of music, you’ve got to admire his exquisite musical skill and stellar showmanship, highlighted by stinging guitar solos a la Hendrix and lots of interaction with an equally enthusiastic audience. Backed by a tight eight-piece band, featuring the sublime Maceo Parker, Prince shone without benefit of fancy costumes or glitzy sets. Music, just music, nearly three hours of it featuring most of his hits, plus tunes from his newest CD, Musicology, which was given free to each ticketholder. Prince has successfully navigated the choppy waters of the music business. He noted: “We hate record companies, we hate radio stations and we hate MTV.” He is a survivor.

Best line of the night:

“Warner Brothers used to be friends of mine
Now they’re just a monumental waste of time.”

Message: 34971 Posted: Sat Aug 14 17:00:41 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Waitin' or Watchin'?

Hi Jimbob! Another somewhat interesting fact is that "Ventura Highway" as a demo song (as found on the box set) doesn't contain the lyric at all. Apparently, it was added afterwards.

(Thanks, Kim, for the info from the "Homecoming" songbook.)

Message: 34970 Posted: Sat Aug 14 16:11:45 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: Waitin' or Watchin'?

Johnny, Ive heard Dewey sing it both ways.Right now I dont remember off which recording. (Too early Sunday morning!)

Message: 34969 Posted: Sat Aug 14 11:19:57 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: future concert

Do what Robyn says.

Message: 34968 Posted: Sat Aug 14 10:20:55 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: future concert

Just post it on here...and hope they read it??? (I think)?

Message: 34967 Posted: Sat Aug 14 10:17:59 2004 By: shiloh
Subject: future concert

Sorry, I am new to this. How do I get a request like that to the band?

Message: 34966 Posted: Sat Aug 14 10:02:11 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: future concert

It wouldn't hurt to give them a big cyber "KISS".

Message: 34965 Posted: Sat Aug 14 08:08:01 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Georgia On My Mind

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 14, 2004

63 years ago - David Crosby, guitarist and vocalist for Crosby, Stills & Nash, is born. (1941)

48 years ago - A Washington D.C. DJ, Bob Rickman, creates the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Elvis Presley. Much of the national coverage of the singer has been critical, as evidenced by the many headlines which refer to him as a hillbilly. (1956)

46 years ago - Elvis Presley's mother, Gladys, dies of a heart attack due to liver complications. She was 42. (1958)

39 years ago - The McCoys' "Hang On Sloopy" is released. (1965)

38 years ago - London's Catholic Herald calls John Lennon's apology for his remark about the Beatles being more popular than Jesus Christ, "arrogant." However the publication admits, as Lennon asserted, it's probably true. (1966)

34 years ago - Singer Stephen Stills is arrested on cocaine possession charges at a motel in La Jolla, California. He was released on $2,500 bail. (1970)

33 years ago - Rod Stewart released "Maggie May." (1971)

30 years ago - Paul Anka's "You're Having My Baby," is gold despite its denouncement by feminists. The objection is the use of the word 'my' as in "my baby", not "our baby." It is Number One by the end of the summer. (1974)

28 years ago - The Steve Miller Band's "Rock 'N Me" is released. (1976)

16 years ago - Guitarist Roy Buchanan dies after hanging himself in a jail in Fairfax, Virginia. (1988)

15 years ago - Bon Jovi's "New Jersey" LP becomes the first U.S. album to be released legally in the Soviet Union. The Russian label Melodiya pays the group with a truckload of firewood since rubles can't leave Russia. (1989)


Rod Stewart - MAGGIE MAY

Wake up Maggie I think I got something to say to you
It's late September and I really should be back at school
I know I keep you amused but I feel I'm being used
Oh Maggie I couldn't have tried any more
You lured me away from home just to save you from being alone
You stole my heart and that's what really hurt

The morning sun when it's in your face really shows your age
But that don't worry me none in my eyes you're everything
I laughed at all of your jokes my love you didn't need to coax
Oh, Maggie I couldn't have tried any more
You lured me away from home, just to save you from being alone
You stole my soul and that's a pain I can do without

All I needed was a friend to lend a guiding hand
But you turned into a lover and
mother what a lover, you wore me out
All you did was wreck my bed
and in the morning kick me in the head
Oh Maggie I couldn't have tried anymore
You lured me away from home 'cause you didn't want to be alone
You stole my heart I couldn't leave you if I tried



NAME: ___________________________________ C.B. HANDLE: ______________
ADDRESS: (R.F.D. - H.C.R.) _________________________________________
DADDY (If unknown, attach list of 3 suspects): _____________________________
MAMA: ______________________________________________________________________
MAKE OF PICKUP OWNED: _____________________ SIZE OF TIRES: __________
NUMBER OF EMPTY BEER CANS ON FLOOR OF PICKUP: ______________________________






NancyH, be sure and play Maggie May today for your dog.........

Have a wonderful weekend........

Red Oak

Message: 34964 Posted: Sat Aug 14 07:56:40 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: future concert

start begging now and beg a lot!

Message: 34963 Posted: Sat Aug 14 00:21:10 2004 By: shiloh
Subject: future concert

I just found out America will be here local. My husband proposed with "All my Life" We are celebrating 20th anniversary. How would I get band to play that song at the concert coming up?

Message: 34962 Posted: Fri Aug 13 12:51:47 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Oz Promotion for Opera House DVD

The following is the Australian promotion for the 9/9/04 DVD release of the Sydney Opera House concert. Cost DVD AUS$28.95.

"Legendary US band AMERICA's universal popularity cannot be ignored. The band has notched up an impressive 11 X US top 40 and 17 Gold, Platinum and multi-Platinum albums. In Australia alone AMERICA has sold close to a total of 1 million albums.
In this new AMERICA DVD they perform all their hits - Sister Golden Hair - A Horse With No Name - Ventura Highway - You Can Do Magic - Tin Man and many more".

Regards, Bluey.

Message: 34961 Posted: Fri Aug 13 12:47:55 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Homecoming Song Book

The "Everyone I Meet Is From California" in the America songbook is the 45 version that was on the B-side of the English release of the "Horse With No Name" single. It was never added to the first album when "Horse" was. It is available on "Encore:More Greatest Hits", "Complete Greatest Hits", and the "Highway" box set.

They re-recorded it as "California Revisted" on the Homecoming album.

Message: 34960 Posted: Fri Aug 13 11:09:10 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: DanF, History, Lyrics & Colonoscopies

Here's a related topic, however: On "Ventura Highway" we all know >>Dewey sings it as, "waitin' for the early train". The lyric posted on the "History" LP sleeve has it as "watchin' for the early train". <<

The original hit recording has Dewey singing "Waiting for the early train" but live he sings "watching for the early train. I am going to have to drag out my copy of History, to see which version they put on it.

Message: 34959 Posted: Fri Aug 13 10:49:55 2004 By: kimcabrina
Subject: Homecoming Song Book

Johnny - The lyric in the Homecoming song book is "Waitin' for the early train".

And here is a bit of trivia I noticed when America song books were mentioned earlier. I also have the America (1st album) songbook and "Everyone I Meet is From California" is included in this book, even though it was left off of the album. It is also included in the Homecoming songbook, but is titled "California Revisited". The piano intro to the song in each book is different as are the guitar tabs. While the lettered chords G,A,G etc. are the same, the tabs from "Everyone" start down on the third fret whereas the tabs from "Revisited" are the chords I remember learning when I played (ie easier!).

Hope y'all have a great weekend!

Message: 34958 Posted: Fri Aug 13 10:27:26 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: DanF, History, Lyrics & Colonoscopies

Aren't there some missing lyrics to Fogelberg's song, "Part Of The Plan" as posted here?

Concerning the alleged comments made by patients during a colonoscopy as claimed by a physician, personally I find it quite doubtful since a colonoscopy requires the patient to be under total sedation (from my understanding, anyway).

Welcome Scott C! I don't have a DVD player. Otherwise, I'd comment on your interesting "Homecoming" questions.

Here's a related topic, however: On "Ventura Highway" we all know Dewey sings it as, "waitin' for the early train". The lyric posted on the "History" LP sleeve has it as "watchin' for the early train".

My question is: Does anyone know whether Dewey changed the lyric or was it merely mis-printed on the album sleeve? I may be mistaken but I thought I had heard Dewey sing it once as "watchin'" on TV back in the early 70s. I don't have the "Homecoming" songbook; otherwise, I'd look it up there as well. Maybe someone with the songbook can tell us how it's printed.

Message: 34957 Posted: Fri Aug 13 08:22:50 2004 By: Scott C
Subject: Re: Homecoming DVD-A Quibbles

Thanks, Bluey & Mark M! Appreciate the welcome and info on the Homecoming DVD. Still not quite sure I understand why there are differences, but maybe I'm a little slow.

Message: 34956 Posted: Fri Aug 13 06:24:21 2004 By: red oak
Subject: DanF, History, Lyrics & Colonoscopies

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 13, 2004

53 years ago - Solo artist Dan Fogelberg is born. (1951)

49 years ago - Due to the number of pop hits which are remakes, especially R&B hits, Savoy Records announces that those wanting to record "cover" versions of songs must obtain permission from the copyright office. (1955)

39 years ago - The Jefferson Airplane makes it stage debut at the Matrix Club in San Francisco. Before the year's out, they'll become the first San Francisco rock group to sign a major recording contract. (1965)

39 years ago - The Beatles "Help!" single is released. (1965)

38 years ago - The Supremes' "You Can't Hurry Love" is released. (1966)

37 years ago - The Daughters of the American Revolution refused to allow Joan Baez to perform at Constitution Hall in Washington D.C. because of her opposition to the Vietnam War. (1967)

33 years ago - Legendary saxophonist King Curtis is stabbed to death outside his New York home. He appeared on many hits in the 50's and 60's, including the Coasters hit, "Yakety Yak." He was 37. (1971)

29 years ago - Bruce Springsteen and the E Street band start a five night, two show an evening run at New York's showcase club at the Bottom Line. The performances, just before the release of "Born to Run," are instrumental in spreading the gospel of rock's purported future and hype of the Boss. Columbia Records supposedly papers the place each night with influential industry people. (1975)

28 years ago - The Clash give a private show at a rehearsal hall in the Calk Farm suburb of London, revealing themselves to both the invited press and to the world at large. (1976)

27 years ago - Bachman-Turner Overdrive disband. (1977)

25 years ago - Cheap Trick has the biggest hit of their career, "I Want You to Want Me." The tune was originally on their second L.P., "In Color," which came out in 1977. However the song took off when it was included on the "Live at Budokan" album. The record goes gold on this date. (1979)

24 years ago - Todd Rundgren's home in Woodstock, New York is invaded by four masked men. Rundgren, his girlfriend and three houseguests are bound and gagged while the masked men strip the house of valuables. Reportedly, one of the thieves hummed Rundgren's "I Saw the Light" during the heist. (1980)

22 years ago - R&B soul singer Joe Tex dies of a heart attack in Navasota, Texas. His biggest chart hit was "I Gotcha," which made it up to Number Two in 1972. He was 44. (1982)

14 years ago - Singer Curtis Mayfield is paralyzed after a tower fell on him before a concert in Brooklyn, New York. (1990)

9 years ago - R.E.M. lead singer Michael Stipe has surgery for a hernia, the day after the group finishes a European tour. (1995)


Dan Fogelberg - Part Of The Plan

I have these moments, all steady & strong
I'm feeling so holy & humble
The next thing I know I'm all worried & weak
And I feel myself starting to crumble.

The meanings get lost
And the teachings get tossed
And you don't know what you're going to do next.
You wait for the sun
but it never quiet comes
Some kind of message comes thru to you
Some kind of message comes thru.
And it says to you....

Love when you can
Cry when you have to
Be who you must
That's a part of the plan
Await your arrival
with simple survival
And one day we'll all understand....



A physician claims these are actual comments from his patients made
while he was performing colonoscopies:

1. "Take it easy, Doc, you're boldly going where no man has gone before."

2. "Find Amelia Earhart yet?"

3. "Can you hear me NOW?"

4. "Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?"

5. "You know, in Arkansas, we're now legally married."

6. "Any sign of the trapped miners, Chief?"

7. "You put your left hand in, you take your left hand out. You do the Hokey Pokey...."

8. "Hey! Now I know how a Muppet feels!"

9. "If your hand doesn't fit, you must acquit!"

10. "Hey, Doc, let me know if you find my dignity."

and THE best one

11. "Could you write me a note for my wife, saying that my head is not, in fact, up there?"


TGIF everyone and have a super weekend, even though today is Friday the 13th.

Red Oak

Message: 34955 Posted: Fri Aug 13 04:54:28 2004 By: Danae
Subject: Re: It was 23 years ago today...

Happy anniversary, Andy!
About the "petrified" thing, I understand you completely. If I were in your place, I would have swallowed my tongue, as we say in Greek. -sigh- That's why I will need to take Lena with me if I ever go to an America concert: to get the autographs. Someone has to do the dirty job...

Message: 34954 Posted: Fri Aug 13 01:58:18 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Re Homecoming DVD-A Quibbles

TO SCOTT C:- Hi Scott, welcome. I asked a similar question and STEVE L graciously gave me a reply which you can view. Go the Archives section, last on the index where you click into this Chat Folder, get into July, 2004 and you'll find you answer in message 34726.

Regards Bluey.

Message: 34953 Posted: Thu Aug 12 23:42:20 2004 By: terry t
Subject: Re: It was 23 years ago today...

Welcome back (again), Andy... You old conservative, you! I, too, know that "petrified" feeling... like a stalker or at least a dork. That's another reason I try to be able to copy all their stuff musically... to bring them down to earth with me, but it just doesn't work. Because they're awesome.

Message: 34952 Posted: Thu Aug 12 20:55:55 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Homecoming DVD-A Quibbles

Hi Scott C
That is intresting, all of the changes. I havn't got the DVD yet, but plan to sometime.
I guess I just wanted to say welcome to the meant alot to me when I first posted, just several weeks ago, when a number of fans welcomed me. :)
We all love "America" thats why we are here !
Mark M

Message: 34951 Posted: Thu Aug 12 19:53:53 2004 By: Scott C
Subject: Homecoming DVD-A Quibbles

Hi, everyone! My first post. I've been an America fan for 22 years, and I just bought the Homecoming DVD-Audio; it's my favorite America album, along with "Hat Trick." I've heard the complete "Homecoming" album hundreds of times (had the LP for years, and I've had the Japanese CD since '91), and I have a few comments & questions about the DVD-Audio. Maybe someone could clear these up?

1) "Cornwall Blank" sounds completely different on the DVD-A than on the LP/CD. Dewey sings different lyrics in the second verse ("sometimes I watch through the glass" instead of "sometimes the free thoughts clash"); on the DVD-A, he is not double-tracked as on the LP/CD; the prominence of the vocals differs; when Dewey sings "goin' to build me a home" the "whoa-oa" is missing on the DVD-A; and so on.

2) On the DVD-A, there are eight extra beats in the beginning of "Saturn Nights." ???

3) The overall sound of the DVD-A is different (I don't mean the quality is better, which it is, but the sound of the music). I am no sophisticated stereophile, but as you all know, after you've listened to an America album dozens and even hundreds of times, if it sounds different, it sounds DIFFERENT! In the DVD-A in many places, I hear less forceful vocals, acoustic guitars so minimized that they're almost *missing* (the jam on "Moon Song," for instance), and so on. Baffling.

I appreciate any input anyone has on this. Thanks a lot!

Message: 34950 Posted: Thu Aug 12 19:08:57 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: It was 23 years ago today...

Andy ~ Happy Anniversary! : )

Message: 34949 Posted: Thu Aug 12 18:57:44 2004 By: Andy
Subject: It was 23 years ago today...

My first concert: America at the Northstage Theater in Glen Cove, New York (on Long Island). The place was torn down long ago, but the memories of that night are priceless. I remember meeting Dewey and Gerry in the parking lot after the show, but I was so petrified, I said absolutely nothing.

Message: 34948 Posted: Thu Aug 12 16:41:41 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: Re: GerryB interview

Obviously I cant imagine America ever doing a rap song, but long I have imagined HORSE been covered by a rap artist. The verses have the rhythm that could be turned into rapping...On the FIRST part of the journey, I was LOOKIN at all the life. Then the chorus would be done with the beautiful harmonies as on the original. Before you all think Ive lost it, Im hearing it done in the mould of Mary Jane's Last Dance, where, if not rapping as such, Tom certainly isnt singing the verses. Then, as weve discussed here, he goes into the chorus with those wonderful harmonies. Reason I used to think all this is cos of how Number one songs have been re-done a long much later by a different artist and topped the charts again. And no-one could do Horse better in its original form than America anyway.

Message: 34947 Posted: Thu Aug 12 15:36:58 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: GerryB interview

Maybe they can just name the new album "Rap in America"?

Message: 34946 Posted: Thu Aug 12 14:56:57 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Re GerryB interview

KRISTAL; Hi Kristal, the DVD gets released in Oz 9/9/04. I would imagine that the date would be worldwide.

Just can't get over the extract in Gerry's interview when Ed Gibbs writes:
"when America ruled the airwaves"

I would imagine that Dewey and Gerry (and Dan) would be very proud to read that as much as we are, the fans.

Thanks again, Bluey.

Message: 34945 Posted: Thu Aug 12 12:47:19 2004 By: red oak
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Denver Driving Guidelines

Good one Chuck!!!!!!!!!

Message: 34944 Posted: Thu Aug 12 12:36:35 2004 By: Chuck
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Denver Driving Guidelines

You end with "TGIAF." You've almost got it correct. It should be SHIT:



Message: 34943 Posted: Thu Aug 12 12:26:05 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Re; GerryB interview

hmm. in keeping with the "H" tradition, is the next album titled "Homies"?

Seriously Eminem is experimenting with many forms of music and while rap made him famous, I think we are going to be surprised by the depth of his talent.

Message: 34942 Posted: Thu Aug 12 12:15:50 2004 By: Pete
Subject: Re: Eminem

I like kid rock better. He puts a little rock and roll to his rap.

Message: 34941 Posted: Thu Aug 12 11:47:11 2004 By: Kristal
Subject: Re: Re; GerryB interview

Bluey - thanks for sharing the article. I think we have all been anticipating a new album! Now where is that dvd??
Danae - I don't follow rap, or understand Gerry's comment on m&m (haha)
Robsl – thanks for the rainy day lyrics - I just love that song! Plus another favorite from America – “Clarice” – this would truly be a dream to hear in concert! We can always dream, right?

Message: 34940 Posted: Thu Aug 12 10:27:33 2004 By: RichM
Subject: Eminem

I haven't listened to a whole lot of his music, but I have liked most of what I have heard. I think his music is very "real" in that he displays a lot of honest emotion.



Message: 34939 Posted: Thu Aug 12 10:11:09 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Re; GerryB interview

Waiting for the release of:
We Got All Night "Homeboy"
Van Go "Yo MaMa"

Wonder if Gerry will wear some Bling, Bling on stage now.

Message: 34938 Posted: Thu Aug 12 09:12:55 2004 By: Robsl
Subject: Gerry's comment on Eminem

I like Eminem, and yes his music is significantly different from America but there's more to it than the drugs and misogyny and guns. Hehe i guess that isn't much of a selling point with most of you, and i certainly can't blame you. But as a veteran fan of hip-hop (I grew up listening to Run DMC and Grandmaster Flash and Heavy D and the Boyz) I have really appreciated his flow as well as the instrumentals behind his raps. Eminem brings in top session musicians like Jeff Bass, Mike Elizondo, Luis Resto, and even plays a little bit of synth and drum machine himself from time to time. He doesn't rely on samples as much as other rappers do. I guess if i was gonna recommend an Eminem song to you guys it would probably be "Hailie's Song" where he actually sings for most of the song instead of raps. I suppose that Eminem would be an artist that many of you would not be into, and certainly that's fine...I suppose i just thought i would talk a bit about some of his musical talent, which is there amidst his controversial antics. I will add that I would never be interested in meeting Eminem as a person because he seems to be mean-spirited and flat-out insane at times. But i certainly enjoy his songs.

"Whenever it's a rainy day
I pack my troubles up in my room
I chase all the clouds away
I get myself back to the womb " -America, great song for rainy days.

Take care people. -RobSL

Message: 34937 Posted: Thu Aug 12 06:26:56 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Denver Driving Guidelines

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 12, 2004

127 years ago - Thomas Edison invents the phonograph. (1877)

55 years ago - Mark Knopfler, guitarist and vocalist for Dire Straits, is born. (1949)

45 years ago - Singer Suzanne Vega is born. (1959)

44 years ago - The Silver Beetles recruit drummer Pete Best. We all know what happened after that. (1960)

38 years ago - The Beatles start their final U.S. tour at Chicago's International Amphitheatre. Earlier in the day, John Lennon held a press conference and apologized for his remark about the band being more popular than Jesus Christ. (1966)

37 years ago - Fleetwood Mac, a British blues-rock band, makes its stage debut at the London National Jazz & Blues Festival. (1967)

34 years ago - Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, Arlo Guthrie and others appear at a Woody Guthrie memorial concert held at the Hollywood Bowl. (1970)

32 years ago - The Festival of Hope is the first rock festival to raise funds for an established charity. Acts include Jefferson Airplane, Stephan Stills, James Brown and others. Only half of the expected 400,000 show up the second day and while they raked in $300,000, the festival incurred expenses of $400,000. (1972)

26 years ago - Pete Meaden, the Who's publicist and manager in their High Number days, commits suicide in London by ingesting an overdose of barbituates. Meaden helped the group refine their mod image. He was 35. (1978)

11 years ago - The Red Hot Chili Peppers replace guitarist Arik Marshall with Jesse Tobias, who in turn was replaced by Dave Navarro three months later. (1993)

10 years ago - "Woodstock '94" was held in Saugerties, New York. About 350,000 attended the show, which included mudfights and performances by Green Day, Nine Inch Nails, Aerosmith and the Red Hot Chili Peppers. (1994)

7 years ago - MTV debuts the Fleetwood Mac reunion concert. The special was taken from two performances at a Warner Brothers soundstage a few months earlier. (1997)


Dire Straits - Heavy Fuel

Last time I was sober, man I felt bad
Worst hangover that I ever had
It took six hamburgers and scotch all night
Nicotine for breakfast just to put me right
'cos if you wanna run cool
If you wanna run cool
If you wanna run cool, you got to run
On heavy, heavy fuel

My life makes perfect sense
Lust and food and violence
Sex and money are my major kicks
Get me in a fight I like dirty tricks
'cos if you wanna run cool
Yes if you wanna run cool, you got to run
On heavy, heavy fuel

My chick loves a man who's strong
The things she'll do to turn me on
I love the babes, don't get me wrong
Hey, that's why I wrote this song


Denver Driving Guide Lines

1. You must learn to pronounce the city name. It is: "den-ver" not Denvah.

2. Forget the traffic rules you learned elsewhere. Denver has its own version of traffic rules...the cars/truck with the loudest muffler goes first at a 4-way stop. The truck with the biggest tires goes after that. (Note: Blue-haired, green-haired or cranberry-haired ladies driving anything have right of way anytime.)

3. To find anything in Denver it is required that you know where Colfax and Broadway are ..... which is the Alpha and Omega. The Beginning and the End.

4. The morning rush hour is from 5:00 to 10:00. The evening rush hour is from 3:00 to 7:00. Friday's rush hour starts on Thursday morning.

5. If you actually stop at a yellow light, you will be rear ended, cussed out and MOST LIKELY shot.

6. You must know that "I-25 and the Valley Hwy" are the same road. Same goes for Hampden Ave, and 285 - they are the same too.

7. Construction is a permanent fixture in Denver. The barrels are moved around in the middle of the night to make the next days driving a bit more exciting.

8. Watch very carefully for road hazards such as drunks, jay-walkers, pan-handlers, skunks, dogs, barrels, cones, cows, horses, pot holes, cats, pieces of other cars, truck tires, squirrels, rabbits, and crows or vultures feeding on any of these items.

9. Ground clearance of at least 12 inches (30 odd Centimeters) for your vehicle is recommended for city driving. Lots of "stuff" falls off or falls from something.

10. If someone actually has their turn signal on, wave them to the shoulder immediately to let them know it has been "accidentally activated".

11. The minimum acceptable speed on "all freeways, I-25, Hwys 76, 225/285/Hampden, Hwys 87 and 36 is 85 mph. Anything less is considered downright sissy. This is Colorado's version of NASCAR. The difference is some drivers are armed and irritable!

12. Never honk at anyone. Ever. Seriously. (it may be hazardous to your health)

13. If you are in the left lane, and only going 70 in a 55-65 are considered a road hazard, and will be "flipped off" accordingly.

14. The trend in recent years indicates if it's 70 degrees, Thanksgiving must be next weekend.



Red Oak

Message: 34936 Posted: Thu Aug 12 05:32:38 2004 By: Danae
Subject: Re; GerryB interview

I can't believe that Gerry likes Eminem.
Gerry writes god music, how can he admire a rapper?

Message: 34935 Posted: Thu Aug 12 03:11:49 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: GerryB interview

Hi everyone, my wife found this article in Oz New Idea, 31/1/04, under the heading "The American Dream", written by Ed Gibbs re interview with Gerry about forthcoming Oz concerts (DVD) and a possible new album.

'Although they haven't released a studio album since 1998's Human Nature, one is in the works. 'We're always writing' Gerry says, 'In our case, time is the issue. We do more than 100 shows a year, so we all need time off with our families. But we'll be recording in the new year.'
The new album could have a modern flavour too since Gerry admits being a fan of Coldplay and Eminem among others. 'Eminem's a genius,' he says 'I also love Coldplay and Radiohead, and other singer-songwriter groups like US band Low, who supported Radiohead in Europe last year. I got to do some vocals on their record which was great.'
In the meantime, Australia has the opportunity to relive the days when America ruled the airwaves and audiences won't be disappointed.
'We're gonna do all the hits, of course, but we're gonna mix it up quite a bit as well. We haven't been to Australia for a while so we'll be picking stuff off all the albums to keep it fresh and different'.

If you haven't seen this before, I hope you enjoy the article. I really enjoyed the 'when America ruled the airwaves' piece. Article also has a very good photo of the boys.

Regards Bluey.

Message: 34934 Posted: Wed Aug 11 20:06:29 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: Old McDonald

All this talk of America songs being part of a rotation in retail stores makes me happy, because I bet those are lucrative licensing deals for our boys. They deserve to be well compensated for their hard work and talent!

-- Madolyn

Message: 34933 Posted: Wed Aug 11 20:04:04 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: Old McDonald

Rich wrote: I was flying Jet Blue from San Francisco to NY last week and they played "The Border" video on a VH1 program that was airing.

I flew Delta once on non-stop flight from Honolulu to Atlanta, and one of the featured artists in the music segment was America. Basically they played the entire "History" album with a few narratives in between. I remember listening to the loop over and over while trying to doze off during the tortuous nine-hour flight in the cramped, stuffy cabin.

-- Madolyn

Message: 34932 Posted: Wed Aug 11 18:26:01 2004 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Joe Doyle - Boys

Haven't posted in a while. Just received Joe's cd yesterday ( Canada Post is sooooooooooo slow ). Awesome. simply awesome. Have played it over and over. Joe, you are an amazing talent. Thank you.

I know this has been said many times on this board as well... also just received Jeff Larson's latest about a week ago. If you do not have it yet... you better go out and order it. Another brilliant collection of songs from a great singer/songwriter.


Message: 34931 Posted: Wed Aug 11 17:50:15 2004 By: RichM
Subject: Old McDonald

Speaking of hearing America songs in unexpected places, I was flying Jet Blue from San Francisco to NY last week and they played "The Border" video on a VH1 program that was airing. Maybe the video was good at the time, but 20 years later it seems pretty lame. It was fun to see it though.



Message: 34930 Posted: Wed Aug 11 17:31:22 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Re: Old McDonald

You know, I think stores and restaurants are showing better taste in the music they play lately! We were at Home Depot yesterday and heard Ventura Highway. I had gone off to look for something and was coming back to find my husband in the aisle he was in; and as I approached him, he gave me a big smile and made sure I heard what was playing. Of course, I was well aware of it but was glad he was appreciating it too. (Last fall I heard Sister Golden Hair at that same store.) It's nice that we can all relate to each other and how much that makes our day.


Message: 34929 Posted: Wed Aug 11 15:57:16 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: Old McDonald/One Third Through

I work part-time in a chain grocery store pharmacy and every time an America song comes on, I turn up the volume on the loudspeaker and someone either groans at me or says there's your song!

Definitely a withdrawal time...till October! (Yea Birchmere and WLB!)

As for passing the time till then...
Always do #4.
Doing #9 Friday.
Will do #10 next week for the last time before school begins.
...and will do the last one tonight at around 10PM!

Message: 34928 Posted: Wed Aug 11 13:54:23 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Chat tonight

I will not be able to join you all this evening as it is my daughter's 17th birthday ( now how did THAT happen?) Have a lovely night

BTW- anyone planning on seeing TEA on Sunday at the Troub. The guys are offering a sweet deal on tix. check it out at

Message: 34927 Posted: Wed Aug 11 08:49:26 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: R. White

Remember Green Bay Packers star Reggie White (now former?) and his 1998 rambling hour-long speech on the floor of the Wisconsin Legislature?

Message: 34926 Posted: Wed Aug 11 08:38:49 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Ooops one more thing ~ Hi there Danae!

Hi Danae :)
Thanks for your review on your Doors Show.. I must admit I was never really that familiar with the Doors, but I do know their Great song "Light My Fire". I also remember watching the Movie about Jim Morrison's career, and Kurt Russell really played a convincing portrait of him.. Nice to hear from you, enjoy the rest of your summer. Are you all ready for the Olympic Candle Lighting Ceremony, will you be heading out to any of the festivities there in Greece?

Take care and keep on enjoying your AMERICA music, all of their songs will start to grow on your Mom! Hopefully! See ya, Nancy :)

Message: 34925 Posted: Wed Aug 11 08:23:46 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: My Wednesday Ramblins!

Hi Hooooo Everyone ~~ Happy Hump Day! :) ;) ~~ Geeze it feels like Forever since I have Posted ~~ My Fingers here are jumping out of their skin! :)

Thanks Bones for the Midnight Smile last night as I read your post, My big brown eyes were too heavy tho to post then! :) One thing I will say about Mickey D's & Burger King they don't fill up your kids stomach with their happy meals, but they do make-up for this by playing just the right songs to smooth me over! :)

Hi there Nina ~~ Pretty neat you hearing Tin Man at the Burger King! I am glad you got your home pc up and running again, my Dina Dell should be arriving back home today if all goes right... good thing, I was able to keep my work pc connection for an extra week. My new office should be opening next week. I am not sure if I will be able to check the chat folder or post from my work. The firewall may not allow it... Boooo hoooo bummers for sure!

Thank You ~ Thank You ~ Thank You ~~ Reddddddd for all the Nice song Lyrics ~~ You are carrying me through my Craziness quite nicely with them! ~~ Wow Joe Jackson's 49th b'day is today ~ He has some nice songs, I hope to get to hear his Greatest Hits Collection sometime soon, I love his song "Steppin Out" and just last week on the radio I heard one of his hidden gems... "Something Breakin Us In Two" ~~ I stopped the dishwasher, sooo that I could get a Close-Up listen to this oooh soo nice song of his.. he has one other song too that comes to my mind right off hand "Is She Really Going Out With Him" ~ he has such a nice carry me away voice! :) ;) ~~ Thanks for stirring up some great songs from Eric Carmen... when I hear his name, I automatically think of his very nice Visual song "Hungary Eyes" ~~~ Oooooh yes I am once again getting Anxious for Mr Mailman to deliver my "Dirty Dancing" DVD sooon! It will be Awesome to watch it with the surround sound on this great song! ~~ Good Luck on getting those Henley show tix! :) ;)

Hi there Joe D ~~ What a neat surprise to see you do a Beatles song... I downloaded it and took a couple listens.. you did a great job as usual... I know you gotta be having fun playing all of these classic songs... Keep em a comin, I am loving it for sure! :)

Hey Gerry ~~ Just gotta say I am a Missing the VFTHW Pics!!! ~~ Our Skyviews here were sooo nice over the weekend. Lots of Blue on Blue sky background and Cottonball Mountains of all shapes and sizes floating around! ~~ We headed to the Pittsburgh Zoo with my son's scout group on saturday on a bus... and I thought to myself, Darn I should have taken a pic of my View from the bus window... if only I would have thought of it on the way out, I had my camera with me, but we took all of the pics at the zoo and the film was done for the ride back home... I Hope you all are enjoying your time off! I Hope you are taking in some Nice skyviews wherever you are! :)

Hi there Chuck ~~ Nice to hear you are heading to the Milwaukee show, Have a great time and take some nice pics again.... :) Are you taking your son?

Hey there Mo ~~ I have been listening to my AMERICA cds, mixed with all of my other ones... late at night... My new boss sure doesn't have the same taste in music as me... She plays this live Michael Bolton CD every time I am there, and also a Celtic sounding one, kinda what I refer to as Angel music, and she then turns on this Jazz station on the radio... Needless to say.. I long to get home to hear my music... I am glad that I will be able to play what I want in my new office! ~~ I have also been watching some movies on HBO & Cinemax... we have it for a short time on a special price. ~~ Thoughts of heading to the Birchmere show, still come to my head, and believe me if there is anyway I can somehow make it there... I would be in AMERICA Heaven for sure! :)

Well my oldest son Jeff finishes up his 4th trimester tests today and he will be heading home tomorrow night for a 3 week break, and my other son Adam will be heading out to IUP next weekend to start his first semester... Too much! I gotta call the college and pay his tuition ~~ OUCH! That empties the checkbook & savings accounts for sure! ~~ Laura & Nathan start back to school on the 25th of Aug...they gotta go to the dr's today for their yearly checkups... I swear my youngest son grew 6 inches in the last 2 months, he sure can put the food away too.. Laura has decided to be on the basketball team, rather than do dance class this year... I hope she will enjoy it... trading in nice songs and dancing for lots of bumps, bruises and sprains! Ooh nooo!

Okay I guess that is about it for now, take care all, that felt good to let my fingers ramble some... gotta get now! See ya, Nancy :)

~~~ Need some time 4 us, find a moment to share, leave some time 4 us, just a minute to spare, there's still time for us, and I have to believe you still care... ~~ I wanna hold you close to me, and feel the way we used to be, can't you feel how good we are, when it's just You and Me, won't you please Leave some time 4 us, just a moment to share, leave some time 4 us, just a minute to spare... I'd like you to know what I'm feeling inside, I'd like now to show, what I'm trying to hide.. Oooooh what a song, sing if for US again LRB ~ just the 2 of Us, leave some time for us :) ;) :)

Message: 34924 Posted: Wed Aug 11 06:31:30 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Love Those Irish Women

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 11, 2004

55 years ago - Eric Carmen, vocalist for the Raspberries, is born. (1949)

49 years ago - Solo artist Joe Jackson is born. (1955)

48 years ago - Elvis Presley's "Don't Be Cruel" is released. (1956)

47 years ago - Just nine days after being on "The Big Beat," Jerry Lee Lewis returns. He again closes with "Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On." By the end of the month it will top both the Country & Western and R&B charts. (1957)

42 years ago - Booker T. and the MG's instrumental song, "Green Onions," is released on Stax Records. It will make it up to number three on the pop charts. (1962)

38 years ago - John Lennon's controversial remark about the band being more popular than Jesus Christ is taking its toll. Stock in the band's record company, Capitol, is dropping and the city fathers of Memphis request the cancelation of an upcoming Beatles concert in the city. John apologizes for his remarks at a televised press conference. (1966)

36 years ago - The first Beatles single on their own Apple Records is released. "Hey Jude" b/w "Revolution." (1968)

35 years ago - Diana Ross invites 350 guests to a Beverly Hills club to see the newest Motown act, The Jackson 5. (1969)

32 years ago - Elvis and Pricilla file for divorce. They had married in May of 1967. (1972)

31 years ago - After seeing KISS play at a New York hotel, producer Bill Aucion offers to become their manager and promises a record deal. (1973)

31 years ago - The Edgar Winter Group's "Free Ride" is released. (1973)

29 years ago - Aerosmith's "Toys In The Attic" LP goes gold. (1975)

22 years ago - The debut of Anglo-American pop-rock band, the Pretenders is certified platinum about three years after it's released. The L.P. contained two hits, "Brass in Pocket" and "Kid." (1982)

22 years ago - Amada Grace Sudano is born to Donna Summer and her husband, Bruce Sudano. (1982)

19 years ago - Duran Duran's lead singer Simon LeBon's boat capsizes off the English coast during a race. He's rescued by the Royal Navy after he spends 40 minutes trapped in an underwater air pocket. (1985)

18 years ago - After almost 20 years, six Monkees albums that we re-released, re-enter Billboard's LP chart. (1986)


Eric Carmen - Make Me Lose Control

I run a comb through my hair and step out in the street
And the city's the color of flame in the mid-summer heat, oh yeah
Jennifer's got her daddy's car, she's playing up-town on the stereo
We go cruisin' so close, the way they did long ago

My darlin'

(Turn) Turn the radio up for that sweet sound
Hold me close never let me go
(Keep) Keep this feelin' alive
Make me lose control
Baby baby
(When) When I look in your eyes, I go crazy
Fever's high with the lights down low
(So take) Take me over the edge
Make me lose control

Raspberries - Go All The Way

I never knew how complete love could be
'Til she kissed me and said

Baby, please, go all the way
It feels so right (feels so right)
Being with you here tonight
Please, go all the way
Just hold me close (hold me close)
Don't ever let me go

I couldn't say what I wanted to say
'Til she whispered, I love you

So please, go all the way
It feels so right (feels so right)
Being with you here tonight
Please, go all the way
Just hold me close (hold me close)
Don't ever let me go


Guide To Marrying Women


First date: You get to kiss her goodnight.
Second date: You get to grope all over and make out.
Third date: You get to have sex but only in the missionary position.


First Date: You both get blind drunk and have sex.
Second Date: You both get blind drunk and have sex.
20th Anniversary: You both get blind drunk and have sex.


First Date: You take her to a play and an expensive restaurant.
Second Date: You meet her parents and her Mom makes spaghetti & meatballs.
Third Date: You have sex, she wants to marry you & insists on a 3 carat ring.
5th Anniversary: You already have 5 kids together & hate the thought of having sex.
6th Anniversary: You find yourself a girlfriend.


First date: You get to buy her an expensive dinner but nothing happens.
Second date: You buy her an even more expensive dinner, nothing happens again.
Third date: You don't even get to the third date and you've already realized nothing is going to happen.


First date: Meet her parents.
Second date: Set the date of the wedding.
Third date: Wedding night.


First Date: You get to buy her a real expensive dinner.
Second Date: You get to buy her and her girlfriends a real expensive dinner.
Third Date: You get to pay her rent.
Tenth Date: She's pregnant by someone else.


First Date: You buy her an expensive dinner, get drunk on Tequila, have sex in the back of her car.
Second Date: She's pregnant.
Third Date: She moves in.

One week later: her mother, father, his girlfriend, her two sisters,her brother, all of their kids, her grandma, her father's girlfriend's mother, her two cousins, her sister's boyfriend and his three kids move in and you live on rice and beans for the rest of your life in your home that used to be nice, but now looks like it belongs somewhere in the desert along the Rio Grande, with chickens and goats in the front yard.



Happy Hump Day!!!!!!!!


Message: 34923 Posted: Wed Aug 11 06:28:36 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: 1.7 Million

I noticed that the "Total" counter at the bottom of this page just turned over to 1.7 million (whatever that's worth).

Message: 34922 Posted: Wed Aug 11 06:12:49 2004 By: Moser
Subject: One Third Through

As it is now August 11th, I would like to point out to my fellow (probably to the point of psychosis) fanatics that we are one-third of the way through what I have affectionately dubbed America's Awful August. Eleven days down, twenty-two to go.

The pressure is heavy on those of you who will get to attend the show on Sept. 2nd at the Summerfest 2004 Encore (Potawatomi Pavilion), Milwaukee, WI. By then, I imagine the symptoms of withdrawal will be at fever pitch and widespread. So, it will be necessary for you fans in WI to post reviews and photos with immediate, unfailing speed. We are counting on you. Are you up to the task??

In the meantime, I have been brainstorming some ways to pass the time. Personally, I have been reading a book titled, "Big Russ and Me" by Tim Russert of Meet The Press fame. It is an excellent biography/autobiography and a quick, entertaining read. Anyone else reading something good?

Other possible pastimes:
Knit yourself a sweater for the inevitable winter.
Call your mother.
Call her again.
Listen to every single America album in order.
Catalog your America CDs, albums, memorabilia.
Write a book.
Go on a date.
Go on another date.
Get a pedicure.
Plan a vacation.
Plan a vacation that includes an America concert or two. (For tips on this, contact Steve L. or Traveller)
Kiss your kids.
Count your blessings.
If all else fails, call your doctor for a prescription of Prozac (for depression) or Thorazine (for psychosis)--depending on how bad things have become, of course. If you're not sure how bad things are, consult the little voices in your head. They'll know.

Anyone else have any good pastimes to suggest?

Happy Wednesday Everyone
That reminds me of another pastime--join in on the live chat tonight. We can be psychotic together!!

Brought to you by your America's Awful August correspondent,

Message: 34921 Posted: Wed Aug 11 06:10:43 2004 By: Chuck
Subject: Milwaukee show Sept 2nd

Hi all of my fellow Wisconsinite America fans. Has anyone decided if they are going to the show in Milwaukee on Sept 2? Maybe we should meet each other, at least. I am still up in the air if I am going or not, but would take some urging from my friends to help make up my mind.

E-mail me at if you want to chat about it further!

Chuck, aka paramedicchuck

Message: 34920 Posted: Wed Aug 11 05:51:29 2004 By: Chuck
Subject: Milwaukee show Sept 2nd

Hi all of my fellow Wisconsinite America fans. Has anyone decided if they are going to the show in Milwaukee on Sept 2? Maybe we should meet each other, at least. I am still up in the air if I am going or not, but would take some urging from my friends to help make up my mind.

E-mail me at if you want to chat about it further!

Chuck, aka paramedicchuck

Message: 34919 Posted: Wed Aug 11 05:32:49 2004 By: Danae
Subject: oops!

sorry for posting again

Message: 34918 Posted: Wed Aug 11 05:31:23 2004 By: Danae
Subject: Re: The DOORS Live in Lycabettus-Review

Well, actually i don't know what "piss off" means, so forget it!

To be honest, I don't really like the Lizard King. Thay started after I watched the Doors film, starring Val Kilmer (he's a great actor) and I got disgusted seeing him taking all those drugs. But I still love his voice and his songs (not as much as I love America, though).
By the way, Jim is Marilina's other big love. So, I think I will give her the t-shirt with the Jim Morrison print I bought from Monastiraki just for the concert. She will be very happy.

Message: 34917 Posted: Wed Aug 11 05:15:16 2004 By: Nina
Subject: Re: Old McDonald

Isn't it wonderful how America's music seems to follow us around? I stopped by a Burger King last week with niece and nephew (before our umpteenth viewing of "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban") and as I approached the booth with a tray bearing our lunches, my nephew pointed above his head with a big smile. A look of pure joy came over the face of my niece. Being deaf as a doornail, I stood there with my head cocked like the RCA Victor dog until I dechipered "Tin Man" flowing out from the overhead sound system!

Message: 34916 Posted: Wed Aug 11 05:14:01 2004 By: Danae
Subject: Re: Old McDonald

In my case, it's my mom and my aunt who close their ears. After so much America music, they have become allergic. Dad loves America, so why close his ears?
(Actually, mom has fallen in love with the Human Nature album!)

Message: 34915 Posted: Wed Aug 11 05:09:20 2004 By: Danae
Subject: Re: The DOORS Live in Lycabettus-Review

Well, actually i don't know what "piss off" means, so forget it!

To be honest, I don't really like the Lizard King. Thay started after I watched the Doors film, starring Val Kilmer (he's a great actor) and I got disgusted seeing him taking all those drugs. But I still love his voice and his songs (not as much as I love America, though).
By the way, Jim is Marilina's other big love. So, I think I will give her the t-shirt with the Jim Morrison print I bought from Monastiraki just for the concert. She will be very happy.

Message: 34914 Posted: Wed Aug 11 04:46:31 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Old McDonald

Similar scenario: My kids and I walked into the grocery store yesterday and were greeted with Ventura Hwy from overhead. I pointed upward. It took them a minute to hear it, but then they got it and reacted in covering their ears. Funny, that's the same reaction I have to their choices of music.

Message: 34913 Posted: Wed Aug 11 03:58:37 2004 By: Erin
Subject: Van Go Gan

So I just got to's 4:29am on Wednesday and I just put VGG in the CD player. Listening to it has already made my day. I just wanted to say again how much I LOVE this CD. Thanks!

Erin :o)

Message: 34912 Posted: Tue Aug 10 20:18:06 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Old McDonald

Took my two girls out to Mickey D's tonight for burgers and fries and You Can Do Magic started playing on the sound system and my oldest turned to and said, "Can't I go anywhere without hearing these guys".

Message: 34911 Posted: Tue Aug 10 16:13:46 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: The DOORS live in Lycabettus -Review

DANAE! I was wondering how the show went. Glad you had fun.

A couple of things-

No singer will ever replace Jim Morrison and although the new guy may be a great singer/performer, he can't compete with the ghost of Mr Mojo Risin.

You asked about Ray's comment ( which is very classic Ray, meaning he ALWAYS talks like that!) Sick it up your a** is a rude comment , somewhat similar, I believe to the Brits who say "piss off". That's probably the best I can explain it on a "family" website!

Regarding Ray and ouzo- I seriously doubt that there is an alcohol Ray has not tried ;)

Glad you had fun!

Message: 34910 Posted: Tue Aug 10 15:30:30 2004 By: Danae
Subject: The DOORS live in Lycabettus -Review

The concert was on July the 22nd.
Venue : Lycabettus Amphitheater. (Lycabettus is a hill in Athens)
Concert started at 22:00, although the tickets said 21:30. (Some youngsters who were sitting behind me were joking, saying that "the ambulance that carries Ray Manzarek may be stuck on the traffic jam", meaning that he is old)
After a big adventure, we finally reached Lycabettus. While we were waiting for the concert to start, we heard Led Zeppelin playing from the speakers (!).
My aunt and I couldn't stop laughing with the comments the youngsters behind us made. Sometimes, men are worse katines than women. (I have used this word before, remember?)
At 22:00, the lights went out. On the big display behind the stage a photo of Jim Morrison's eyes appeared. Then, the lights fell on the stage, and the Doors were there.
Ray Manzarek on his keyboards, Robby Krieger on guitar and Ian Astbury on lead vocal.
They started playing immidiately "Break On Through To The Other Side". Ian Astbury's voice sound's a lot like Morrison's (he looks ike him ,too). Manzarek and Krieger are great musicians.
After the first song, Astbury said "good evening" to the audience.
The next song was "Touch Me", I think.
There was a great introduction to "Alabama Song" by Robby Krieger and Ray Manzarek:
Robby: I'm thirsty... I wonder if there is any place where we could get a drink around here...
Ray: No problem. Wanna me to take you to a Whiskey Bar? Or since we are here... to an OUZO bar?

Manzarek probably had tasted ouzo and he may have liked it, cause he kept saying that he wanted to go for ouzo. The funniest was this:
"After the concert, we will go to a bar... And drink loooooots of ouzo... And get drunk... And have a big party... And do crazy things..."

You will wonder why this is funny. Well, in Greek when we say "Party me ouza"(party with ouzo- ouzA in plural) we mean... We mean. I wonder, did he know that?

There was a fascinating guitar solo by Robby Krieger.
Another great introduction was in "Five to One" by Ray Manzarek:
"We'd like to dedicate that song to... our president, Mr. George Bush. The people who live in the states have been accused for the war in Iraq. It was not the people who decided it, it was the government! it was only one who wanted to kill all those people. So we'd like to dedicate that song to Mr. George Stick-It-Up-Your-Ass Bush!"
Sorry Ray, I now I destroyed you with mentioning this.
What does "Stick-It-Up-Your-Ass" mean?

When Astbury tried to say "thank you" in Greek, the audience started laughing. Instead of "efharisto", he said "efkaristo". He gave us congratulations for winning the European championship singing "Oleeeee, oleeee oleeee oleeeeeeeeee"

The concert had almost reached its end, when the Doors stood up and disappeared behind the scene. They returned in a few minutes wearing the suits of the National Greek Football team, which won the European Cup. Manzarek (who was in a great mood), tried to dance syrtaki, but nobody wanted to dance with him, so he stopped.

then, the encore. Manzarek asked "how many of you want "Light My Fire?" The audience screamed. "I'll ask you once more: How many of you want "Light my Fire"?

And they played it. Great encore.
And they left. What a great concert.
It's a pity that Ian Astbury drew fire from the critics.

Message: 34909 Posted: Tue Aug 10 06:17:44 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days,History, Lyrics & Order In the Court

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 10, 2004

95 years ago - Leo Fender, inventor of the electric guitar, is born. (1909)

64 years ago - Righteous Brother Bobby Hatfield is born. (1940)

57 years ago - Ian Anderson, flautist and singer for Jethro Tull, is born as is Ronettes lead singer Ronnie Spector. (1947)

49 years ago - Two weeks after its R&B top ten debut, Chuck Berry's "Maybellene" enters the pop charts at #23. (1955)

45 years ago - The male members of the Platters, Tony Williams, David Lynch, Alex Hodge and Paul Rabi are arrested in a room at the Sheraton Gibston Hotel in Cincinnatti. Dectectives were tipped off by a hotel employee and found the four black men in various stages of undress with four nineteen year old women-three of whom were white. The men are charged with aiding and abetting prositution, lewdness and assignation. Everybody will be acquitted in December, but the episode, in which many think is fueled by racism, takes its toll of the Platters' career. (1959)

43 years ago - INXS drummer John Farriss is born. (1961)

36 years ago - The Who's "Magic Bus" is released. (1968)

34 years ago - Jim Morrison's trial for allegedly exposing himself onstage in Miami begins. (1970)

32 years ago - Paul & Linda McCartney are arrested for drug possesion after a concert in Gothenburg Sweden. Paul is fined $1,000 and Linda $200. (1972)

30 years ago - After doing two albums for Elektra/Asylum Records, Bob Dylan returns to his longtime label, Columbia. (1974)

28 years ago - Elton John gets Madison Square Garden rockin' and rollin' on the opening night of a seven show stand. The stay breaks the house record set the previous summer by the Rolling Stones. The concert marks the end of a two month U.S. tour for John and represents the absolute peak of his staggering popularity. (1976)

22 years ago - Southside Johnny Lyon, leader of the Asbury Jukes, marries Jill Glasner in Asbury Park, New Jersey. The Jukes and Bruce Springsteen perform at the wedding. (1982)

19 years ago - Michael Jackson pays $47.5 million for the ATV music catalog, which includes 251 Lennon/McCartney songs. (1985)

9 years ago - Jimmy Buffett leads a birthday celebration for President Clinton's birthday at the White House. (1995)


The Ronettes - Be My Baby

The night we met I knew I needed you so
and if I had the chance I'd never let you go.
So won't you say you love me,
I'll make you so proud of me.
We'll make 'em turn their heads every place we go.

So won't you, please, BE MY BE MY BABY
be my little. baby MY ONE AND ONLY BABY
Say you'll be my darlin', BE MY BE MY BABY
be my baby now. MY ONE AND ONLY BABY

I'll make you happy, baby, just wait and see.
For every kiss you give me I'll give you three.
Oh, since the day I saw you
I have been waiting for you.
You know I will adore you 'til eternity.


Q: How was your first marriage terminated?
A: By death.
Q: And by whose death was it terminated?

Q: Can you describe the individual?
A: He was about medium height and had a beard.
Q: Was this a male, or a female?

Q: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice which I sent to your attorney?
A: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.

Q: Doctor, how many autopsies have you performed on dead people?
A: All my autopsies are performed on dead people.

Q: ALL your responses MUST be oral, OK? What school did you go to?
A: Oral.

Q: Do you recall the time that you examined the body?
A: The autopsy started around 8:30 p.m.
Q: And Mr. Dennington was dead at! the time?
A: No, he was sitting on the table wondering why I was doing an autopsy.

Q: Are you qualified to give a urine sample?

Q: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
A: No.
Q: Did you check for blood pressure?
A: No.
Q: Did you check for breathing?
A: No.
Q: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
A: No.
Q: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
A: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
Q: But could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?
A: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law somewhere.


Happy TGIAHD!!!!!!!!!

Red Oak

Message: 34908 Posted: Mon Aug 09 21:28:09 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Joe Doyle - Boys

I have never got to hear any of your "America covers"

Mark, here's a link to all of Joe's covers so you can listen to them.

Message: 34907 Posted: Mon Aug 09 20:26:42 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Off Topic Funny

Hope she never gets the nice truck that delivers the kegs.

Message: 34906 Posted: Mon Aug 09 18:21:41 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Off Topic Funny

Today at the pool, a younger, more well-toned woman walked by my friend, my husband, and me. My husband moved me aside to improve his view. My friend and I gave him some crap--as if that would matter. "She had a nice six pack," he said. ( if that was really what he was looking at...but okay.)
My friend, who is 'Rubenesque' like me, said, "Great. She has a nice six pack. Well then I guess I've got a nice keg!!"

Message: 34905 Posted: Mon Aug 09 18:18:53 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Joe Doyle - Boys

Great job Joe
I have never got to hear any of your "America covers", but now I know what the fuss is about. Very good !
Mark M

Message: 34904 Posted: Mon Aug 09 14:34:20 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Joe Doyle - Boys

I always thought this was such a fun song and Joe has done his usual terrific job with it -- I found myself bopping away while sitting at the computer!

Message: 34903 Posted: Mon Aug 09 13:26:17 2004 By: HarryO
Subject: Re: Perspective

'Stereo' is one of my favorite America songs and it's written by two of my favorite songwriters, Beckley and Webb.

Message: 34902 Posted: Mon Aug 09 12:27:27 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re:

The Utah Olympics were in 2002. This event was part of the seniors PGA (Professional Golfers Association) tour.

Message: 34901 Posted: Mon Aug 09 11:57:42 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re:

Pretty cool and what a thrill that must've been! Was that event related to the Olympics... weren't the Winter Olympics in Utah in 2000 or was it 2002? He's certainly got great taste.


Message: 34900 Posted: Mon Aug 09 11:19:04 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Joe Doyle - Boys

Joe Doyle had some extra time this past weekend and he recorded a cover of The Beatles "Boys". Click here to listen/download the song and let me know what you think. I think he did a great job!

Message: 34899 Posted: Mon Aug 09 07:10:50 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re:

I came accross this article on the espn website and I wasn't a Johnny Bench fan until now

FYI, Johnny Bench attended a private America show back in 2000 in Park City, UT. I was there and got several photos of and with Johnny. Click here to see the photos.

Message: 34898 Posted: Mon Aug 09 06:21:47 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Court Disorder II

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 9, 2004

58 years ago - Rinus Gerritsen, bass player and keyboardist for Golden Earring, is born. (1946)

49 years ago - Cars bassist and sometimes vocalist, Benjamin Orr, is born. (1955)

41 years ago - The BBC's rock & roll television show, "Ready! Steady! Go!" debuts. (1963)

37 years ago - While performing at the Sunberry Jazz and Blues Festival in England, Jerry Lee Lewis gets the crowd going in such a frenzy that festival officials halt his show and ask him to leave the stage. (1967)

32 years ago - Gilbert O'Sullivan receives a gold record for "Alone Again Naturally." It's Number One for six weeks in the summer. (1972)

29 years ago - The Santa Monica Civic Auditorium is the site of the first annual Rock Music Award Show. The Don Kirshner produced broadcast on CBS proves to be an alternative to the Grammys. Those taking home awards: Bad Company, the EAGLES, Roger Daltrey, Joan Baez and Stevie Wonder. (1975)

26 years ago - Blues legend Muddy Waters performs at a White House picnic for President Jimmy Carter. (1978)

22 years ago - Survivor's "Eye of the Tiger," which is the theme song for the hit movie "Rocky III," goes gold. (1982)

13 years ago - Singer Rick James pleads innocent to charges he imprisoned, tortured and sexually assaulted a woman in his California home. (1991)

9 years ago - Grateful Dead singer, guitarist and spiritual leader Jerry Garcia dies of a heart attack while undergoing drug rehabilitation. He was 53. (1995)

Survivor - Eye Of The Tiger

Risin' up, back on the street
Took my time, took my chances
Went the distance
Now I'm back on my feet
Just a man and his will to survive

So many times, it happened too fast
You trade your passion for glory
Don't lose your grip on the dreams of the past
You must fight just to keep them alive

It's the eye of the tiger
It's the thrill of the fight
Risin' up to the challenge
Of our rival
And the last known survivor
Stalks his prey in the night
And his fortune must always be
Eye of the tiger


Disorder in the American Courts

These are from a book called Disorder in the American Courts, and are things people actually said in court, word for word, taken down and now published by court reporters who had the torment of staying calm while these exchanges were actually taking place.

Q: Do you know if your daughter has ever been involved in voodoo or the occult?
A: We both do.
Q: Voodoo?
A: We do.
Q: You do?
A: Yes, voodoo.

Q: Now doctor, isn't it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he doesn't know about it until the next morning?
A: Did you actually pass the bar exam?

Q: The youngest son, the twenty-year-old, how old is he?

Q: Were you present when your picture was taken?

Q: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th?
A: Yes.
Q: And what were you doing at that time?

Q: She had three children, right?
A: Yes.
Q: How many were boys?
A: None.
Q: Were there any girls?

Have a great day everyone...........


Message: 34897 Posted: Sun Aug 08 20:36:03 2004 By: Genevieve
Subject: Chat..

Tx everyone for the nice time I had LIVE with you tonight !
I got abruptly kicked out of the chat room because of those f**en hateful pop-ups !!! but i enjoyed speaking to you. (Sooo sorry Mo i was totally unable to finish our convo... will e-mail you tomorrow)

Nitey night to ya all.

Message: 34896 Posted: Sun Aug 08 18:24:46 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Spiro lives

MarkM and Johnny. Thanks boys, if you can get to see that video for "The Fishermen 3" you'll swear blind it's Gerry. As I said, good song.

On closer look at the front cover (it's all flowery and hard to read) he actually went under the name ":M: Spiro" - you just got to love it!

Thanks again, Bluey

Message: 34895 Posted: Sun Aug 08 15:50:01 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Taste of Cleveland

Taste of Cleveland

< Too bad they thought Alibi was a song >

It's great to hear the good folks in Cleveland thought Alibi was a hit even though it wasn't a song. Hope they won't be too disappointed not to hear it that night? Great title or name for a song though.

Great news too about the long setlist for the upcoming DVD! but was also pleasantly surprised to see the Beatles song listed. Since it's listed it must be included afterall (?)


Message: 34894 Posted: Sun Aug 08 10:50:26 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: America

Red, loved today's reality joke.
Been to the Warren County Fair Friday in Jersey. Was a very lovely is today, so I'm off to walk in Liberty State Park.

Favorite album: Can't really choose an all time favorite one, but as for the Beatles, it's Rubber Soul.

See everyone at the Chat tonight...Alibi...

Message: 34893 Posted: Sun Aug 08 09:15:45 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Mr. Spiro

Johnny & Bluey
I found Mark Spiro on the link Johnny mentiond...and also on "Amazon".
He does resemble Gerry. Very intresting.....
Mark M

Message: 34892 Posted: Sun Aug 08 08:46:07 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Listening Party - Alibi

that does sound like fun !! Unfortunatly...I am seldom home on sunday night, or I would definetly join in on that.
I will have to catch one of your partys when you do that on another night, sounds pretty fun. :)
Mark M

Message: 34891 Posted: Sun Aug 08 08:39:11 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: America

Thanks RO for the lyrics to "Lookin' out my back door". It's difficult to understand "John Fogerty" cleared a lot of things up ! lol
You mentioned it was 35 years ago that "the Beatles" shot the "Abby road cover". A friend of mine and his wife just got back from London a couple weeks ago. He had his wife take a photo of him walking across the "Abby road crosswalk" It was very cool...I have to make a treck to "England" sometime in my life !!
If anyone has been there or is from there...I would love to hear about some of the "Beatle related" sites you have seen.
Mark M

Message: 34890 Posted: Sun Aug 08 08:37:31 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Mr. Spiro

Bluey and Mark M ~ I had never heard of Mr. Spiro (Mark Spiro) until you mentioned him here. I found some information about him and his photo. WOW! He does look like Gerry! I was amazed. From the cover of his CD "Devotion", I would have thought the picture was of Gerry. Everyone can check it out by going to:

Message: 34889 Posted: Sun Aug 08 08:23:54 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Re Ram On

Wow, you got me on that one?? I love "Julian Lennon", but I have never even heard of "Mr. Spiro" ? I would love to see the video myself...sound intresting enough. If nothing else, just for the "Julian Lennon" part in the song, and the "Gerry Beckley" look alike.
I agree on the "Band on the run"'s almost as much fun figuring out the identities on that as it is the "Srgt. Peppers" cover.
I am going to look a bit deeper into this "Mr. Spiro", see what I can find.
Mark M

Message: 34888 Posted: Sun Aug 08 07:02:25 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Listening Party - Alibi

Hi Mark:

You can join the listening party by coming to the chat this evening. There is a link on the home page. We all queue up our CDs and listen at the same time. Some folks make comments as to favorite songs, lyrics, musical arrangements, etc. It's fun; please join us!

Message: 34887 Posted: Sun Aug 08 05:52:51 2004 By: red oak
Subject: America

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 8, 2004

43 years ago - The Edge (David Evans), guitar player for U2 (1961)

44 years ago - Billboard reports Decca Records dumped 25,000 copies of Ray Peterson's "Tell Laura I Lover Her." They felt the song, which recounts the last thoughts of a teenager dying from a car accident, is too tasteless and vulgar for the English sensibility. (1960)

40 years ago - The Rolling Stones have another riot at one of their concerts. This one is in the Hague, Netherlands. (1964)

40 years ago - Eric Burdon tells Billboard the origin of the Animals namesake. He explains it was the group's followers which called them "The Animals" when they were known as the Alan Price Combo. Burdon explains, "(it) was probably an association with the kind of music that we play, earthy and gutty. It's sort of an animal sound, and on stage we can be pretty wild." Also it was on this date that the group's tune "House of the Rising Sun" is released. (1964)

35 years ago - The Beatles shoot the cover for their "Abbey Road" album outside Abbey Road studios in London. (1969)

34 years ago - Thousands of Americans are denied entry into Canada for the Strawberry Fields Rock Festival in Mosport, Ontario. Officials denied the concert goers-to-be on the grounds that they "failed to produce adequate monies to support themselves." 8,000 Americans made it there. (1970)

34 years ago - Singer Bessie Smith finally gets a marker for her grave in Philadelphia, 33 years after her death. Janis Joplin purchased the marker for the grave, stating that Smith was one of her influences. (1970)

34 years ago - CCR's "Looking Out My Back Door" is released. (1970)

30 years ago - Eric Clapton receives a gold record for "461 Ocean Boulevard." It's his comeback album and contains his Number One version of "I Shot the Sheriff." The album reaches the top of the charts. (1974)

29 years ago - The Rolling Stones end their U.S. tour before a crowd of 80,000 in Buffalo. (1975)

24 years ago - The Greater London Council orders a halt to the plans of American heavy metal, punk-destructo band the Plasmatics to blow up a car onstage tonight. It's at the Hammersmith Odeon conters, the groups first performance in the U.K. (1980)

23 years ago - The Pretenders begin their second U.S. tour. It's an eleven week stint that begins in Fort Pierce, Florida. The tour is in support of their new album, "Pretenders II." (1981)

22 years ago - Jefferson Starship singer Mickey Thompson marries Sara Kendrick in San Francisco. (1982)

18 years ago - David Crosby is released from prison after serving a sentence for drug and weapons possession. (1986)

17 years ago - U2's "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" hits #1 on the Billboard chart. (1987)

12 years ago - Metallica singer James Hetfield was injured by a stage explosion at a concert in Montreal. At the same show, Guns 'n' Roses lead singer Axl Rose lost his voice and cut short their set. Fans weren't too pleased and rioted. (1992)


Looking Out My Back Door - CCR

Just got home from Illinois, lock the front door, oh boy!
Got to sit down, take a rest on the porch.
Imagination sets in, pretty soon I'm singing,

Doo, doo, doo, Looking out my back door.
There's a giant doing cartwheels,
A statue wearing high heels.
Look at all the happy creatures dancing on the lawn.
A dinosaur Victrola listening to Buck Owens.


Tambourines and elephants are playing in the band.
Won't you take a ride on the flying spoon?
Doo, doo doo.
Wond'rous apparition provided by magician.


Tambourines and elephants are playing in the band.
Won't you take a ride on the flying spoon?
Doo, doo doo.
Bother me tomorrow, today, I'll buy no sorrows.


Forward troubles Illinois, lock the front door, oh boy!
Look at all the happy creatures dancing on the lawn.
Bother me tomorrow, today, I'll buy no sorrows.


Disorder in the American Courts

These are from a book called Disorder in the American Courts, and are things people actually said in court, word for word, taken down and now published by court reporters who had the torment of staying calm while these exchanges were actually taking place.

Q: Are you sexually active?
A: No, I just lie there.
Q: What is your date of birth?
A: July 15th.
Q: What year?
A: Every year.
Q: What gear were you in at the moment of the impact?
A: Gucci sweats and Reeboks.
Q: This myasthenia gravis, does it affect your memory at all?
A: Yes.
Q: And in what ways does it affect your memory?
A: I forget.
Q: You forget? Can you give us an example of something that you've forgotten?
Q: How old is your son, the one living with you?
A: Thirty-eight or thirty-five, I can't remember which.
Q: How long has he lived with you?
A: Forty-five years.
Q: What was the first thing your husband said to you when he woke up that morning?
A: He said, "Where am I, Cathy?"
Q: And why did that upset you?
A: My name is Susan.

It's fair time around the USA, get out and smell the air..........


Message: 34886 Posted: Sun Aug 08 05:02:47 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Re Ram On

MarkM: "RAM" is perhaps my favourite album only because it has "Monkberry Moon Delight" and "Heart of the Country", "Band On The Run", well I've got the LP and CD. It was fun guessing who were the famous identities were on the front cover!

Mark can you help me out here about a CD I've got by :Mr: Spiro. The album is called "Care Of My Soul" The reason for buying it was due to a track called "The Fisherman 3". Saw the video on MusicMax and I realised that Julian LENNON, talks and sings backup. It's not a bad song so I bought the CD and honestly I haven't got a clue who :Mr: Spiro is! When I first saw the video I thought it was Gerry B, long blonde hair and glasses. Is he known over there?


Message: 34885 Posted: Sat Aug 07 23:48:37 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Herman's Hermits

Went to the Herman's Hermits free concert tonight (Saturday night). Peter Noone was great! He's still in wonderful form both musically and physically. The guy is quite the cut-up! Had a blast.

During the show, Noone pointed out the lady sitting next to me on the second row and tossed her a tour shirt from the stage but, unfortunately, it flew over her head and was nabbed by the person sitting behind her. He grabbed another shirt and said, before tossing this one, "It's for the lady in the pink shirt." This time his toss was right on target. The shirt had a British flag on the front with the band's name and a list of cities toured on the back. The front was autographed with a black Sharpie, "Herman - Peter Noone 2004". The lady was my sister visiting from Dallas.

I highly recommend seeing "Herman's Hermits". Peter Noone is hilarious as well as a great musical talent! The band covered a Dave Clark Five hit as well as a Johnny Cash song (believe it or not), a Monkee's tune, and a Stones song.

Noone joked that he was shopping at the local Walmart store with the band earlier today, and he was recognized and was very pleased... until the person said, "Nick Nolte!". There is the resemblance these days.

He said in the early days female fans would throw panties on stage. He said it still happens today BUT the sizes are much larger. That cracked the audience up.

If you get a chance to see Noone and his band in concert, I guarantee you'll have a good time if it's anything like the show was tonight.

Message: 34884 Posted: Sat Aug 07 22:03:05 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Listening Party - Alibi

What is a listening party? How does it work? You have peaked my curiosity. ???
Mark M

Message: 34883 Posted: Sat Aug 07 21:59:20 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: DVD Release Date

Thanks for the info on that "Perspective" concert. I would enjoy hearing them play those songs live....because I think that would fit their style better than the way they produced the album.
I like the songs on the album...I just have never thought it sounded much like "America", as far as the way it was produced. I would love to hear more of an acoustic version of the same songs.
Mark M

Message: 34882 Posted: Sat Aug 07 21:10:14 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Listening Party - Alibi

Tonight's listening party will feature Alibi, 10 PM EDT, 7 PM PDT. Hope you can join us.

Message: 34881 Posted: Sat Aug 07 19:20:14 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: DVD Release Date

Sign up at my HMV store - Release day for DVD in Oz is 9 September.

MarkM: Went to 1984 "Perspective" concert in Sydney (at Balmain Leagues Club) They played "We Got All Night", "See How The Love Goes" "Can't Fall Asleep To A Lullabye" and , I think, "Special Girl" and "Lady With A Bluebird" As I said previously, one of my favourite "live" songs the boys have done is "See How The Love Goes" (which was previously recorded by the Pointer Sister in 1982)

RED OAK: "Red, Rock and Roll Lullaby"..good song, I have it on B.J.Thomas "All The Hits" Glenn Shorrock (LRB) did a good cover, it's on his "Glenn Shorrock - The First 20 years" C.D.


Message: 34880 Posted: Sat Aug 07 19:00:58 2004 By: Margaret
Subject: Finn Brothers

For those fans of Neil and Tim Finn, you might be interested in an article that was in the weekend paper here.

Message: 34879 Posted: Sat Aug 07 18:47:01 2004 By: Margaret
Subject: Re: Sydney Opera House news

Great news. As Anita said, all the songs played on the night are listed. In an earlier undercover article that I referred to at the time of the Australian concerts and that someone (perhaps SteveO) referred to recently, Gerry said that he doubted seriously if I Need You (The Beatles) will be on the DVD as it is quite difficult to licence Beatles songs. So if it is included, that is interesting.

Message: 34878 Posted: Sat Aug 07 14:33:26 2004 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: Re: Perspective

Agreed Mark it is usually the last one grabbed from the America batch
I like Unconditional Love a lot along with Special Girl too... But it is still America so certainly worth playing

Message: 34877 Posted: Sat Aug 07 11:13:27 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Perspective

I was just hoping for other fans thoughts on the "Perspective" album.
To me it is the least intresting of any of "Americas" Albums.
It has some great cuts on "Can't fall asleep to a lullaby" and "Fallin'off the world" rocks. There are other good cuts as well, but it's the whole getting away form the usual(acoustic) sound that makes it less intresting for me.
I would love to hear them remix and issue that album, in the more traditional style! I think than I would love it as much as the rest of the "America" gems.
Mark M

Message: 34876 Posted: Sat Aug 07 10:54:01 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Ram On

Hey Jimbob
"Band on the run" is a great album...There is just something about "Ram" that is very unique? I think maybe less over production? Anyway it stands alone, and I never tire of it.
"Ram on, give your heart to somebody, soon right away, right away"
Mark M

Message: 34875 Posted: Sat Aug 07 09:11:28 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Sydney Opera House news

David: Thanks for the setlist! What great news: the whole show with apparently nothing cut! Now we need the USA release date . . .

Message: 34874 Posted: Sat Aug 07 08:13:16 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Hanging Wright

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 7, 2004

62 years ago - BJ Thomas(Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head) is born. (1942)

41 years ago - The original beach movie, "Beach Party", debuts. The film stars Frankie Avalon and Annette Funicello. Music is provided by Dick Dale & the Del Tones. (1963)

40 years ago - TIME Magazine reviews the Beatles' movie "Hard Days Night." The headline reads "Beatles Blow It" and advises readers to "avoid this film at all costs." Life Magazine writes "some Marx Brothers surrealism." A week later, the Los Angeles Herald Examiner reviews the performances as "amusing and engaging." (1964)

39 years ago - The Turtles' remake of Bob Dylan's "It Ain't Me Babe" is released. (1965)

39 years ago - The Dave Clark 5 lead singer Mike Smith, breaks two ribs when he is pulled off the stage by overzealous fans during a show in Chicago. (1965)

33 years ago - Frank Zappa's Mother of Invention record "Just Another Band from L.A." at U.C.L.A. It's the last Zappa album to incldue former Turtles Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman. The two leave to record on their own as Flo and Eddie. (1971)

33 years ago - The Bee Gees attain their first of seven Number One records in America. It's "How Can You Mend a Broken Heart?" From here, the group turns to Barry Gibb's falsetto and a disco beat which will jump start their careers. (1971)

30 years ago - Peter Wolf of the J. Geils Band and actresss Faye Dunaway are married in a Beverly Hills courtroom. (1974)

25 years ago - One of the successes of the year is Rickie Lee Jones. Her debut album goes platinum and kicks out a Top Five hit, "Chuck E's in Love." (1979)

25 years ago - At a Marshall Tucker Band show in Long Beach, CA, a fan steals a car and drives it through two banks of metal exit doors and one concrete wall. (1979)

18 years ago - An L.A. judge throws out a lawsuit against Ozzy Osbourne. The lawsuit had been filed by the parents of a teenager who committed suicide while listening to Ozzy's song, "Suicide Solution." (1987)

13 years ago - Charges of assault and property damage are filed against Guns 'n' Roses lead singer Axl Rose in connection with a riot during a show in St. Louis. (1991)


Rock & Roll Lullaby - BJ Thomas

She was just 16 and all alone
when I came to be.
So we grew up together
my mama child and me.
Now things were bad and she was scared,
but whenever I would cry,
she'd calm my fears and dry my tears,
with a rock & roll lullaby.

And she'd sing sha nana na na na nana
it'll be alright.
Sha nana na na na na nana
just hold on tight.
Sing it to be mama,
na na na na
it'll be alright.
Sing it sweet and clear,
oh mama let me hear
that old rock & roll lullaby.

Now we made it through the lonely days,
but Lord the nights were long.
And we'd dream of better mornings,
when mama sang her song.
Now I can't recall the words at all,
it don't make sense to try.
Cause I just knew lots of love came through
that rock & roll lullaby.

When she'd sing sha nana na na na na nana
it'll be alright.
Sha nana na na na na nana
just hold on tight.
I can hear you mama,
ma ma ma my mama
it'll be alright.
Nothing moves my soul like the sound of a good old
rock & roll lullaby.

Sing it to me Mama
ma ma ma mama.
Sing it sweet and clear
Oh mama let me hear
that rock and roll lullaby.


Hanging Wright

There was an attorney who got home late one evening after a very taxing day trying to get a stay of execution for a client, named Wilbur Wright, who was due to be hanged for murder at midnight. His last-minute plea for clemency to the state governor had failed and he was feeling tired and depressed.

As soon as he got through the door his wife started on about, "What time of night do you call this? Where the hell have you been?" and so on.

Too shattered to play his usual role in this familiar ritual, he went and poured himself a very large whisky and headed off to the bathroom for a long hot soak -- pursued by the predictable sarcastic remarks.

While he was in the bath the phone rang, which the wife answered, to be told that her husband's client had been granted his stay of execution after all.

Realizing what a day he must have had, she relented a little and went upstairs to give him the good news.

As she opened the bathroom door she was greeted by the sight of her husband's rear view as he bent naked over the bath cleaning the tub.

"They're not hanging Wright tonight," she said.

The attorney whirled 'round and shouted hysterically, "For crying out loud. Don't you ever stop?"


Have a nice weekend all..........


Message: 34873 Posted: Sat Aug 07 07:39:45 2004 By: David S
Subject: Sydney Opera House news

Check out the following site for the latest and it seems, the set list for the Australia DVD

Message: 34872 Posted: Sat Aug 07 06:30:09 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: Ram On

Hey Mark M, Ram On Man! GREAT Album!Band on The Run superb also. That album seemingly more complete than Ram, Bluebird being beautiful, but love Ram, all the same.

Message: 34871 Posted: Fri Aug 06 18:33:54 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Ringo

Steve Orchard:
Steve: Last night I got out my Rolling Stone mazagine, 22 January, 1981 which tributes John Lennon's life. Takes up the whole magazine.
First page I opened was a commentary from Richard PERRY:

'I first met John while I was producing the RINGO album in 1973. John had written a song for Ringo called "I'm the Greatest" which was kind of a chronological outline of their careers together. The night we were going to record it, Ringo, John, Klaus Voorman and myself grouped around a piano in the studio to put the finishing touches on the song. Then someone called me out of the studio to say that George was on the phone. "I hear there's some recording going on" George said. "Can I come down". So I said to John "George is on the phone and wants to come down to record with us. Is it okay?" "Hell yes" John said,"Tell him to get down here right away and help me finish this bridge".
George arrived and without saying a word, he joined in on the same wavelength we were on. He played guitar and John played piano and they complemented each other perfectly. There was the Beatles magic unfolding right before my eyes'
A little bit of America there in the last few words. You wonder what would have happen if Paul also rang?

The THORNS: You've got be beat, it's back in the player. When I first heard "I Can't Remember", it was on Fox Musix-Max and it was into the chorus. I said to Cheryl, 'America's got a new song out!' When I saw the video, I recognised Shawn Mullins straight away from his "LULLABY" video but loved the song anyway. I bought the CD straight away thinking that it would have been like an "America" set but was disappointed. All you folks can't be wrong so it's back on the playlist. Sorry.
A short time after its release, The Thorns came out to Oz to do one show and then support the Dixie Chicks at the Sydney Superdome. Couldn't get to the concerts because other commitments. Cheryl had actually bought the "Home" CD and it would have been good to see both acts. A friend of mine saw the show and said the sound was very bad and they could hardly hear The Thorns at all.


Message: 34870 Posted: Fri Aug 06 18:20:15 2004 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

Brian Wilson: Getting In Over My Head.......

Message: 34869 Posted: Fri Aug 06 13:17:30 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: Rick James Dies

Most people remember Rick James from his 1981 hit "Super Freak" which reached #16 on the Billboard Hot 100. It wasn't his biggest though--that distinction went to his very first single "You & I" which reached #13 in 1978. Two of his other Top 40 singles remain personal favorites of mine: The #40 "Give it to me baby" from 1981,and "17" which reached #36 in 1984. James was also a noted producer. He formed the Mary Jane Girls and produced their 1985 #7 single "In My House."
He also wrote,produced & arranged Eddie Murphy's 1985 #2 hit "Party All the time." However,in later years it sounded like he led a rough life...

Message: 34868 Posted: Fri Aug 06 12:58:37 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Rick James Dies

Is anyone surprised? What a waste of a talent. Although I was not a big fan of his style of music, I think it was a lot of fun to listen to.

Message: 34867 Posted: Fri Aug 06 12:52:44 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Rick James Dies

Rick James of "Superfreak" fame was found dead in his Los Angeles home. He was 56.

Message: 34866 Posted: Fri Aug 06 08:40:00 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

Crowded House - Together Alone.

Message: 34865 Posted: Fri Aug 06 07:56:18 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

(The Former) Roberta Joan Anderson "Blue"

Message: 34864 Posted: Fri Aug 06 07:43:39 2004 By: red oak
Subject: History, Lyrics & FEG

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 6, 2004

45 years ago - ABC-Paramount acquires British teen idol Cliff Richard's hit, "Livin' Doll" for U.S. release. (1959)

44 years ago - Chubby Checker performs "The Twist" on American TV for the first time on "American Bandstand." (1960)

40 years ago - Rod Stewart makes his television debut with the Hootchie Coo Men on the British television show, "The Beat Room." (1964)

34 years ago - On the 25th anniversary of the U.S. dropping the atomic bomb on Hiroshima, 20,000 people, paying $5.50 to $8.50, gathered in New York's Shea Stadium for an anti-war rock festival. The attendance is below expectations despite acts such as Janis Joplin, Paul Simon, Steppenwolf and Johnny Winters. (1970)

33 years ago - Procul Harum records a concert with the Edmonton Symphony in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Portions will be released as the album "Live with the Emonton Symphony Orchestra." "Conquistador" will be a surprise hit single. (1971)

31 years ago - Stevie Wonder suffers head injuries when a car he was riding in collides with a logging truck in North Carolina. He was in intensive care for four days because of a coma induced by a brain contusion. Doctors say because he is blind, the impact of the accident is magnified three times. He recovers but suffers some permanent damage--the loss of his sense of smell. (1973)

25 years ago - The Cars don't pay attention to the sophomore jinx predictions and go two-for-two: "Candy-O" is their second straight album to go platinum. (1979)

23 years ago - Stevie Nicks' "Bella Donna" LP is released. (1981)

22 years ago - "Pick Floyd The Wall," a $10 million film version of of Pink Floyd's best selling double-album, "The Wall" has its U.S. premiere in New York City. The film has virtually no dialogue or play. It's a series of surreal episodes equating rock & roll with fascism, women and sex with pain and death and life in general with an inescapable madness. Though it does well at the box office, the critics have a problem with all the negativity. (1982)

20 years ago - The Cars release their video for "Drive." Actor Timothy Hutton directed it. (1984)

17 years ago - The Beastie Boys sued the city of Jacksonville, Florida for including the phrase "mature audience" on their concert tickets and ads. (1987)

16 years ago - The Traveling Wilburys begin a surprise mini-tour prior to releasing their debut album. The group consists of George Harrison, Jeff Lynne, Bob Dylan, Rob Orbison and Tom Petty. (1988)

15 years ago - U2 bassist Adam Clayton is arrested at his home in Dublin, Ireland for pot possession. (1989)

10 years ago - Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley make their first public appearance as newlyweds in Budapest while Jackson shoots a Communist-themed video. (1994)

8 years ago - The Ramones give their last concert at L.A.'s Palace. Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder and Soundgarden's Chris Cornell jam with the boys on stage. (1996)

8 years ago - The soundtrack to the film "She's The One," starring Edward Burns and Jennifer Aniston, is released. The album is record by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers and features the single, "Walls." (1996)


Stevie Nicks & Don Henley - Leather & Lace

(Stevie Nicks)
Is a love so fragile?
And the heart so hollow
Shatter with words...impossible to follow
You're sayin' I'm fragile...
I try not to be, I search only...
for somethin' I can't see

I have my own life...and I am stronger than you know
But I carry this feelin'...when you walked into my house
That you won't be walkin' out the door

Still I carry this feelin'...when you walked into my house
That you won't be walkin' out the door

(Nicks & Henley)
*Lovers forever....face to face
My city or mountains...stay with me stay
I need you to love me...I need you today
Give to me your leather....take from lace

(Don Henley)
You in the moonlight..with your sleepy eyes
Could you ever love a man like me?
And you were right..when I walked into your house
I knew I'd never want to leave
Sometimes I'm a strong man, sometimes cold and scared
and sometimes I cry......
But that time I saw you...
I knew with you to light my nights....
somehow I'd get by


Federal Educational Guideline

Reacting to Federal Guidelines, the state of Massachusetts, which has been highlighted as a role model for student testing by the two U.S. Senators from this State, released the following memo:

In response, the Federal No Child Left BEHIND Act, students will have to pass it to be promoted to the next grade level. In the hopes that it will be uniformly adopted by all the states, thus illuminating Massachusetts to a glorious front runner position in education, it will be called: the Federal Arithmetic and Reading Test (FART).

All students who cannot pass a FART in the second grade will be
retested in grades 3-5 until such a time as they are capable of
achieving a FART score of 80%. If a student does not successfully FART by grade 5, that student shall be placed in a separate English program, the Special Massachusetts Elective for Learning Language (SMELL).

If with this increased SMELL program the student cannot pass the
required FART, he or she can graduate to middle school by taking a
one-semester course in Comprehensive Reading and Arithmetic Preparation (CRAP).

If by age fourteen the student cannot FART, SMELL or CRAP, he or she
will earn a promotion in an intensive one-week seminar. This is the
Preparatory Reading for Unprepared Nationally Exempted Students

It is the opinion of the Massachusetts Dept. of Public Instruction that an intensive week of PRUNES will enable any student to FART, SMELL or CRAP.

U.S. Senators Ted Kennedy and John Kerry stated that this revised
provision of the student-testing program should help clear the air.


TGIF everyone...........


Message: 34863 Posted: Fri Aug 06 07:34:52 2004 By: jimnak
Subject: Re:

Johnny Bench did a show with AMERICA.

Message: 34862 Posted: Fri Aug 06 07:32:48 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Darn those Cyber Gremlins they stole my late night post again!

TGIF Everyone ~~ I headed to my big soft pillow sooo Frustrated Late Last Night... I finally sat down here and let my fingers ramble off a post, and I addressed soo many things in it and of course when I hit the submit button, this puter started to act sluggish and the next thing the screen said Cannot Find the Server, sooo I rebooted, in hopes that before this thing decided to act up that my message had posted, but when I got back on to the site, no post by me was there... Sooo I guess you guys all Lucked out, and those Nasty Cyber Gremlins gobbled away my thoughts... Booo hoooo! :( I really Hate when that happens!

I will try to just highlight some of what my ramblins was about! Highlight the word TRY! ~ I will be losing this internet connection after today, so it may be awhile before I can post again!

My Friday Jam ~ was Seal's Seal IV cd ~~ and much of my post was accented by his great lyrics found on these songs... soo I will spare you all of that ... I will just say that it is one Awesome collection of Inspiring songs ~ Check him out sometime if you aren't familiar with him.

Hmmm ~~ My Hidden album is Rick Astley's... I can't even remember the title of this album, I bought it cause I absolutely love his song "Never Gonna Give You Up" and that was the only song on his cassette that I did hit the rewind button on.. Sorry Rick ~ Hmm wonder why we never heard any more from him..

My AMERICA at lunch experiences mostly have been hearing Sister Golden Hair, just the other week when I had lunch alone at the small cafe... as I was about to start eating, that oooh sooo familiar guitar beginning brought a Smile to my face and made me feel as tho I wasn't having lunch alone! I Love the Way AMERICA's songs have an Effect on me anytime, anywhere! :) ~~ I have heard "You Can Do Magic" also, last year on our way up to NY to move Jeff into college, we stopped at Burger King and I was pleasantly surprised when it started to play... Ear to Ear smiles again, and that feeling of home away from home... I have been put on hold lots in my job and I have heard Ventura Hwy... Sister Golden Hair and Winter Wonderland... You can betcha I didn't care at all being on hold while these played... :) Hmmm Just the other night on our way home from work, we stopped to pick up pizza for supper... and I had my Hourglass CD playing on Beesieloohooo's cd player, well I put down the windows and opened up the moon roof and turned up the Volumn on Dewey's Magical Gem "Garden of Peace" I did get a couple of heads turn bessieloohoo's way to take a listen to this gem... I Loved sharing it! :) :) :)

Regarding Red's mentionings of the Beatle's History in his posts...I always liked George's song "It Don't Come Easy" I never had any of the Beatle's albums... but I did have some of their 45's... I had Yellow Submarine, Eleanor Rigby, and I had Ringo's "You're Sweet Sixteen" I can remember a Green Apple Label on this 45, but not what was on the flipside of it, could it have been "Photograph" by chance? I also had some neat Beatles Trivia regarding the song "Nowhere Man" I will have to find the paper I wrote it down on while doing my dishes one sunday morning while Dick Barteley was featuring the Beatles..

I Liked all the Beatles, and this would be my order for them... Paul M, George H, Ringo & John coming in as a tie... I really like Paul M's Band on the Run, and we had it on 8 track sooo it had been many years that I didn't get to hear all of the gems on this, a good friend put all of the Beatles as well as Beach Boys albums in mp3 format for me... and it is neat to pop it in and discover lots of songs that I hadn't heard for years... Jimmmmbob was nice enough to stir up memories of the song "Bluebird" I hadn't remembered it at all, and the Beach Boys have a song from one of their earlier albums called "Bluebirds Over the Mountain" a long lost friend shared it with me... the other night I was listening to one of my most favorite Bluebird Lyric line song, sung by a not sooo known music artist... Eva Cassidy, I love when she sings ~~~ Somewhere over the Rainbow, Pretty little Bluebird's fly, and the DREAMS You Dare to DREAM REALLY Do Come TRUE, if pretty little bluebirds can fly over the rainbow, then why ooooh why can't Iiiiii ~~~ :) ;)

Hey there DanC ~~ You have my curiousity peaked about this LRB song "Mistress of Mine" I had never heard of this LRB song... Thanks Bluey for your post this morning regarding this song.. I will have to look around for it ~~ Red are you familiar with this song??? :)

Thanks a bunch Red for the Nice Lyric Vibes you sent my way at work the other day, I love that song, and you know just how much I love the movie "Dirty Dancing" lots of great songs and scenes on this movie... I am waiting patiently for Mr Mailman to bring my DVD of this that was a complimentary gift from Dell for purchasing a new PC... from them and financing it through them... You can betcha I will enjoy hitting the replay on certain songs and sections from this movie... Thanks for the Visual Pleasures! :) ;)

Well DanC ~~ almost time to head to see Hall&Oates with the Mrs. have fun... Let me know if Atlanta Rythmn Section sings their sooo nice song "Sooo Into You" and "Spooky Little Girl" Okay? :)

Hey there Jimmmmmbob ~~ I am thinking that this dvd that is available there in NZ is the show from Ecuador in 1998 recording... I have both the AMERICA Concert in Germany, which has the Ohne Filter symbol on it (I think it just is a symbol for the recording company that made this dvd) I could be wrong tho... anyway there are lots of magical gems on the Ecuador show... Boy that was one awesome Playlist to get to see live... I am not recalling Dewey singing Pages on the Ohne Filter DVD tho... I enjoyed seeing Musikladen, and I loved the way there were some early day gems on it too... I will have to take a listen to them one by one again soon... Thanks for stirring up the hankerin to hear this again for me! ;)

On the radio here now is a remix of Seals & Crofts song "Summer Breeze" it has been used for GAP commercials here in my area... they added a lot of shadowing backuplyrics and that beat that remixes are known for ... Hmmm I wonder what Seals & Croft thinks when they hear this done this way!!! I was echoing Brian the dj's comment there... he and I think alot alike at times... We have been emailing back and forth about Joe Jackson's hidden gems... :)

One more tidbit I want to ramble about then I am done I promise, I recently heard my 2 dj friends talking about a new song out by Bruce Hornesby, and Sting and "Mr Slowhand" Clapton plays on this song, and I have only heard it once, but you sure can hear Stings Influence lyrically wise and Mr Slowhand works his nice accoustic magic well, Bruce's voice has changed somewhat but it was easy to pick his style out in this song, that I am drawing a blank on... Darn I hate when this happens too.. :) Let me know if any of you have heard it, have you Steve O??? :)

Okay take care all enjoy your friday... we are off to the zoo tomorrow with my son's scout group, should be a fun day... I will have to get the scouts singing some songs on the bus ride there... :) See ya, Nancy :)

~~~ I feel like the sun, I feel like the rain, I feel like a justified reason for Living again, cause what I've been Dreamin, I know that its real, I know there's just no changing the way that I feel, You're into my head and I'm out of my mind, I feel like a Justified reason for being alive, and I have a Secret that I think you should know, i feel like I just can;t keep things Deep within me, and I think you should know, can You see My Vison of a Red Hot Summer & Vibe ~~ We were turning that Key Inside to get into the Moment ~~~ Sing it Seal :) ;)

August's Calender caption ~~ ENTHUSIAM ~~ The more excitement we Share the Bigger Splash se can make.... :)

Message: 34861 Posted: Fri Aug 06 07:24:12 2004 By: Dave Balletto

I came accross this article on the espn website and I wasn't a Johnny
Bench fan until now

Message: 34860 Posted: Fri Aug 06 06:40:42 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

Squeeze ~ Some Fantastic Place

August 7, 2004: A free local outdoor concert by Herman's Hermits (featuring Peter Noone) in my small home town. I'm Into Something Good. : )

Message: 34859 Posted: Fri Aug 06 06:17:19 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Ringo Starr

Favorite Beatle ~ Lennon
Favorite Former Beatle ~ McCartney
Favorite Former Beatle LP ~ Band On The Run

Mo ~ This is related to your question you had for me yesterday:

In the archives ~ August 7, 2002 Post #23353. I did attend, by the way.

Message: 34858 Posted: Fri Aug 06 03:56:00 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: LRB off topic

Dan: John Farnham took over from Glen Shorrock for about 5 years and recorded "First Under the Wire". The only songs from his era played in Oz were "Down On The Border" "The Other Guy" and "Playing To Win". I can't remember "Mistress of Mine" being aired. John left and continued his solo career and became Oz's biggest star. His first album "Whispering Jack" spent about 4 million years at No. 1 as did his follow-up albums. He is actually teaming up with Tom Jones for concerts sometime this year. In 1988, Glen Shorrock rejoined LRB and they released "Monsoon" with hits "Love Is A Bridge" and "Soul Searching"

Red Oak: Red, as you know Glen Shorrock is very good friends with The Eagles, particularly Glenn Frey. They helped him out with his first solo album "Villian of Peace" after leaving LRB. The 1988 LRB "Monsoon" tour was about kick off when Glenn Frey came over here to promote his "Soul Searchin'" album and decided to go one the road with them. You couldn't believe the advert in the paper, LRB supported by Glenn Frey. I suppose this would almost be one-in-million but both artists were promoting some of their new songs which included LRB "Soul Searching" and Glenn Frey's "Soul Searchin'"
Haven't seen anything yet. Will let you know.
I have about 5 Glenn Frey CDs, "No Fun Aloud" "The Allnighter" etc...great albums.

Eddy: Oz newspapers had hugh Beatles lifouts/bios for the 40th Anniversary and that was one of articles about stress amongst the members of the band. One commentator stated that Ringo was the biggest factor in the band being readily accepted in America because of his humour and character. I'm a big fan of all their Beatle and solo days. My favourite CD is George Harrison - "Best of Dark Horse 1976-1989" I have a very good DVD about George called "George Harrison - The Quiet One" Comprises two discs, "In His Own Words" and "The Guitar Gently Weeps" Distributed by Waterfall Home Entertainment.
Best Beatles - "Abbey Road" - daylight second.

Steve O: What a great album RINGO. It's pity they couldn't all have got to play at least one song together on the set. My wife has a Carpenters video and they show the Billboard when one of their songs is No.1 but if you pause it and read the list, "Photograph" is at No.2, LAST WEEK NO. I.

The WHO are touring here and their drummer----Zac Starkey (Ringo's son) Sold out concerts in Sydney.


Message: 34857 Posted: Fri Aug 06 03:47:15 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

Nilsson: Greatest hits.

Message: 34856 Posted: Fri Aug 06 03:20:45 2004 By: Julie
Subject: Friday AM JAM

Joe Doyle's Homemade America. Come on volume 2!! What's in your player???

Message: 34855 Posted: Fri Aug 06 02:47:52 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Ringo Starr

I was picking Abbey Road as my best album of any artist, not just best Beatles' album. But, I guess, there's a two-for-one answer there, since it suffices for either of the questions at hand.

Favorite Beatles: McCartney, Harrison, Starr, Martin, Lennon

Band On The Run is also my pick for McCartney's best solo work although I like Venus and Mars very much as well.

Message: 34854 Posted: Thu Aug 05 20:25:26 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Ringo Starr

My Favorite Beatle album "Agree...Abby road" hands down.
Favorite Beatle: McCartney, Harrison, Lennon, Starr. (But love em' all)
Best McCartney solo album: "Band on the run" is indeed his most acclaimed work...My personal favorite, a little old album simply called "Ram".
Best solo album by any Beatle goes to George, for the classic "All things must pass".
Mark M (Goodnight all)

Message: 34853 Posted: Thu Aug 05 19:52:27 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Ringo Starr

Alot's been said and documented about Ringo Starr over the years,but he does have one thing over John,Paul & George: He was the only Ex-Beatle to have back-to-back #1 singles with "Photograph" and "Your Sixteen" in late '73 and '74,and both from his LP "Ringo". Even with all the hits McCartney had,thats one thing he didn't do.

My Favorite Beatles Album: "Abbey Road",Hands down.
My Favorite Beatles: McCartney,Harrison,Starr,Lennon
Best McCartney solo LP: "Band on the Run" Thats also my favorite LP of any of the Ex-Beatles. Most Critics will also agree as well that "Band on the Run" was the Best solo recorded work from McCartney.

Message: 34852 Posted: Thu Aug 05 19:42:49 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: hidden cds

cds or albums I bought solely on the artist only to relegate them to never-agian land

Peter Framton "I'm in you" ( album ok I was 17 or something and the long hair was what got me)
Steely Dan's last one ( after the hit song "Cousin Dupree" the rest was IMHO a stone DOG)

Crosby Stills Nash and Young ( was YOUNG on the last one? It stank so bad I have NO idea where it is)

More later

( also re: "canned music" that is one of my all time favorite song from Dan Hicks and his Hot Licks-- anyone else here a fan?)

Message: 34851 Posted: Thu Aug 05 19:05:38 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: revolver Part II

That last one was in response to EDDY..."The Ringo defender"

Message: 34850 Posted: Thu Aug 05 18:59:56 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Raiders (The band)... A Question For Moser

No, sorry, there is no hidden agenda.

Message: 34849 Posted: Thu Aug 05 18:58:10 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: revolver Part II

I totaly agree with you...George Martin even apologised more than one time throughout "The Beatles" recording years for snubbing Ringo when he first joined the band. I can't imagine he would countinue to snubb him....he would get rid of him as quickly as he did "Pete Best".
Mark M

Message: 34848 Posted: Thu Aug 05 18:50:33 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: revolver Part II

Gotta be "Abby road" or "Who's next".
As far as Ringo's drumming....I think it's BS. But than, I love the guy !!

Message: 34847 Posted: Thu Aug 05 18:39:24 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: America at lunch

I went to lunch several years ago with a group of people from work. On the way back to the office, the driver of the car we were in was whipping thru the channels. For a few seconds I heard "THREE ROSES".
One of the girls in the car not knowing who it was said "what was that'it sounded kinda good". I spoke up and told them what it was and who it was....but, no one knew what the station was, and by the time I persuaded him to find it was gone. Bummer !!!
Mark M

Message: 34846 Posted: Thu Aug 05 18:25:28 2004 By: Dan
Subject: LRB off topic ?

Hey BLUEY, ever heard the tune Mistress of Mine, off the album First Under The Wire? It's one of my favorite LRB songs but it doesn't seem to get much attention. Just curious..DanC

Message: 34845 Posted: Thu Aug 05 17:48:20 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Raiders (The band)... A Question For Moser

I said: <<[Mark] Lindsay still "Kicks" major butt in concert.>>

Moser said: <<And, do you know this because you have seen him in concert for yourself?>>

Why do you ask, Mo? From past interaction, you usually only ask me a question if you have something particular in mind.

Message: 34844 Posted: Thu Aug 05 17:34:22 2004 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: revolver Part II

"He's not even the best drummer in The Beatles"
Where did you read THAT?
"Paul overdubbed a lot of Ringo's studio work"
ALOT!!?, Yes, I'll admit there were "a few" songs (Back In The USSR, The Ballad Of John & Yoko which George didn't play on also) that come to mind......I wouldn't consider that alot!
Ringo's not a Buddy Rich, but he's the best solid, "in the pocket" Drummer in RnR!
I was wondering.........I'm not trying to be a smarta**, or anything, but can you give me a list of ALL those songs that Paul played on? Inquiring minds would like to know! I think that Lennon remark was taken abit out of context, thats my take on it, anyway....

EDDY (The Ringo defender)

Message: 34843 Posted: Thu Aug 05 17:16:10 2004 By: Alan
Subject: Re: hidden cds

Dobie Gray's "Drift Away". Absolutely LOVE the title track. The rest of the album wasn't worth the vinyl it was stamped on.

I happen to LOVE the Thorns CD, though. Every song a winner, IMO.

Message: 34842 Posted: Thu Aug 05 16:16:26 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Taste of Cleveland

I should have said shows, plural.

Message: 34841 Posted: Thu Aug 05 16:15:39 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Taste of Cleveland

There's a nice little blurb about the show at the link below. Too bad they thought Alibi was a song, however.

Message: 34840 Posted: Thu Aug 05 14:59:05 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: revolver Part II

I'll take Rubber Soul... DanC.

Message: 34839 Posted: Thu Aug 05 10:34:44 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: revolver Part II

Best album for me--Abbey Road

Message: 34838 Posted: Thu Aug 05 10:33:12 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: revolver Part II

<<We could have a weekly segment......"Moser's Big, Black and Bitchy Weekly Reviews".......>>

You'd get a far better spectrum of participation from the folks here if you removed my moniker from that title. Besides, if you call it Bluey's Big, Black, and Bitchy Weekly Reviews, you'd have a good stretch of alliteration going on there. Sounds catchy.

Message: 34837 Posted: Thu Aug 05 09:27:52 2004 By: red oak
Subject: Re: revolver Part II

Hey Old Blue Eyes - any truth to the rumor that Glen Shorrock will sing with the EAGLES when they invade Japan & Australia in November. Glenn Frey sang with LRB back in '88, maybe he will do the same. Would like to see all the members of LRB over the years re-unite for some shows. That would be 1 awesome event!!!!!!!!!

Best album has to be Pet Sounds.


Message: 34836 Posted: Thu Aug 05 09:18:05 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: revolver Part II

Hey Red Oak. About your news on The Beatles "Revolver", some 6 months ago on the evening news they stated that a massive poll had been taken around the world from records producers, dealers, DJs, etc to pick the top albums of all time. The results were read starting from No.10 through to No 1 which was..... "Revolver".

My personal opinion, "Revolver" is a great album - my favourite song is "I'm Only Sleeping" - but I think there are a lot of albums, such as "Thriller", "Rumours","Sgt Peppers" that have better credentials. Apparently now a whole heap of new factors come into play when they are doing surveys like this, movies and TV programmes.

Just a quick one liner from John Lennon. Apparently Ringo was getting a bit of a serve from the media and other bands about his drumming abilities. At a media conference, Paul said something like "Ringo is the best drummer in the world" A very shattered John Lennon immediately replied, "He's not even the best drummer in The Beatles" Everyone knew that Paul overdubbed a lot of Ringo's studio work.

Keep up those black, bitchy reviews ladies. We could have a weekly segment......"Moser's Big, Black and Bitchy Weekly Reviews".......


Message: 34835 Posted: Thu Aug 05 08:43:28 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: revolver

Hey red oak. About your news about The Beatles "Revolver" About

Message: 34834 Posted: Thu Aug 05 06:46:39 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Farmer's Donkey

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 5, 2004

47 years ago - "American Bandstand" goes national on ABC-TV. It started in 1952 as a local hit parade show in Philadelphia. Dick Clark became the host in 1956 and his first guests are the Chordettes. (1957)

45 years ago - Former Foo Fighters guitarist Pat Smear is born. (1959)

40 years ago - Beastie Boy M.C.A. is born Adam Yauch in Brooklyn, N.Y. (1964)

38 years ago - The Beatles album "Revolver" is released in the U.K. by Capitol. The hit singles off the album include "Yellow Submarine," "Eleanor Rigby" and "Got to Get You into My Life." The U.S. version of the album will be released four days later. (1966)


The Chordettes - Mr Sandman

Mr. Sandman, bring me a dream
Make him the cutest that I've ever seen
Give him the word that I'm not a rover
Then tell him that his lonesome nights are over.
Sandman, I'm so alone
Don't have nobody to call my own
Please turn on your magic beam
Mr. Sandman, bring me a dream.

Mr. Sandman (male voice: "Yesss?") bring us a dream
Give him a pair of eyes with a "come-hither" gleam
Give him a lonely heart like Pagliacci
And lots of wavy hair like Liberace
Mr Sandman, someone to hold (someone to hold)
Would be so peachy before we're too old
So please turn on your magic beam
Mr Sandman, bring us, please, please, please
Mr Sandman, bring us a dream.


One day a farmer's donkey (Bob) fell down into a well. The animal
cried piteously for hours as the farmer tried to figure out what to do.

Finally he decided the animal was old, and the well needed to be
covered up anyway; it just wasn't worth it to retrieve the donkey.

He invited all his neighbors to come over and help him. They all
grabbed a shovel and began to shovel dirt into the well.

At first, the donkey realized what was happening and cried

Then, to everyone's amazement, he quieted down. A few shovel loads
later, the farmer finally looked down the well, and was astonished
at what he saw.

With every shovel of dirt that hit his back, the donkey was doing
something amazing. He would shake it off and take a step up.

As the farmer's neighbors continued to shovel dirt on top of the
animal, he would shake it off and take a step up. Pretty soon, everyone was amazed as the donkey stepped up over the edge of the well and trotted off!

Life is going to shovel dirt on you, all kinds of dirt. The trick
to getting out of the well is to shake it off and take a step up.

Each of our troubles is a stepping stone. We can get out of the
deepest wells just by not stopping, never giving up! Shake it off and
take a step up!

Remember the five simple rules to be happy:

1. Free your heart from hatred.
2. Free your mind from worries.
3. Live simply.
4. Give more.
5. Expect less.

Enough of that.

The donkey later came back and kicked THE CRAP out of the farmer
that tried to bury him.

Moral: When you try to cover your ass, it always comes back to get you.


HAPPY TGIAF DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Message: 34833 Posted: Thu Aug 05 06:45:11 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Raiders (The band)

<<Lindsay still "Kicks" major butt in concert.>>

Nah, I just read that somewhere. <---- sarcasm

Message: 34832 Posted: Thu Aug 05 06:22:29 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: America at lunch

McDonald's must be THE place to hear America music from overhead. The last two times I took the kids there for lunch, we heard an America song. We usually listen to the music anyways and they try to guess the artists. Of course, when an America song comes on, they just groan while I usually squeal!! I can't imagine how it is that I embarrass them...!

Message: 34831 Posted: Thu Aug 05 06:20:29 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: hidden cds


Oooh, too many to mention! But I'll try to remember the good ones:

* Sting's "Brand New Day." I stopped buying anything Sting after that one. After masterpieces like "Mercury Falling" and "Ten Summoner's Tales" and "Soul Cages," this and all subsequent releases of his have been big steaming piles of poop, in my humble opinion. He needs to stop now. Bitchy enough for you?

Jamiroquai, "A Funk Odyssey." I got this blind, after loving so much the earlier "Traveling Without Moving." Doesn't come close, and I never, ever play it.

Robert Palmer's Greatest Hits Anthology. Instead of doing what I should have, which was to buy all of his old CDs from the 70s that I loved so much (I do have a few of them), I took a shortcut and got this. What a mistake. Many of the gems were remixed and sounded awful. I really regretted buying this one.

* Steely Dan's "Two Against Nature." I should have known better, as I never cared for "Gaucho" (but I loved everything they did in the 70s). This was more of the same and worst. I don't care that it won a Grammy.


-- Madolyn (feeling quite snarky this morning!)

Message: 34830 Posted: Thu Aug 05 06:20:06 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: hidden cds

Bluey ~ As I was reading your message, I was trying to think of some CDs/LPs that I had purchased based on one song/hit and the rest of the CD/LP being a let down. When I saw that you had posted Lindsey Buckingham's "Trouble", I chuckled to myself because that is EXACTLY the same for me. There are many other LPs but I'll have to look at my collection to remember them.

Regarding "America At Lunch", I once heard "Lovely Night" on the radio late at night. BUT, I requested it myself (hee-hee) and the DJ was kind enough to play it. I was a bit surprise that he had the "Hideaway" LP at the radio station.

Message: 34829 Posted: Thu Aug 05 06:00:09 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: America at lunch

I was at a restaurant that is part of a local chain ("Not Your Average Joe's," for those of you familiar with the Boston 'burbs). They always play a pretty eclectic (and usually good) collection of music, and one time "Donkey Jaw" was in the mix! I noticed it right away -- even amid the din of the restaurant noise, I picked up the beginning riffs and then the "chaaaaa" of the donkey jaw instrument.

Last night I took my daughter to McDonald's (against my better wishes, but she really wanted one of those Beanie babies they're giving away), and "You Can Do Magic" played while we were there.

-- Madolyn

Message: 34828 Posted: Thu Aug 05 05:52:56 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: hidden cds

Bluey, you crack me up with your 'black, bitchy reviews' sense of tell it like it is-ness.

By contrast, I enjoy The Thorns whole CD and have spun it many times. Never heard the Buckingham one though so can't comment. I will have to give this some thought for CDs that weren't worth the price of admission.
Good subject.

Message: 34827 Posted: Thu Aug 05 05:39:53 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: America at lunch

I really meant to say it was really AMERICA singing- I call all canned music "Musak"

Message: 34826 Posted: Thu Aug 05 05:00:52 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: hidden cds

Cheryl, my wife, just asked me why I was carrying around Barry Gibb's album and I showed her my last message to you guys. She pointed out that on a number of times I have bought an LP or CD because of a particular track and found that, after hearing the rest of the album, found it to be just rubbish. The album gets put away and forgotten.
I suppose we all have done it.
Now with advancements in technology, CD burning, we can take a track off that album and add it to our own make-up compilational CD.





Both CDs played once, both songs listed downloaded, CDs never to be seen again.

I'm opened to criticism, but I was just disappointed and felt they had short-changed me. It certainly makes you understand when a follow-up gets released, why the majority of punters stay away. If you look at the trend, performers like these generally flop with the follow-up, that is if they get another chance.

It could be interesting to read some of your black, bitchy reviews.


Message: 34825 Posted: Thu Aug 05 04:42:49 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: Re: dvd release

Hey Bluey, I know the album. Remember it from 20 years ago! My goodness! But espescially liked 'The Hunter'. When the hunter COMES! Great great Barry Gibb vocal!

Message: 34824 Posted: Thu Aug 05 00:21:28 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: dvd release`

G'Day everyone. Firstly, sorry about putting down the wrong date for the Sydney concert in my last message. It was the 30 January, 2004 of course. Just done my tax return and had 30/6/04 on my brain.

Jimbob, the release date I heard was either 6 or 7 September. I was thinking about the great artists that have come out of N>Z> Crowded House, John Rowles, Sharon O'Neill etc but I tell you a band I really liked was The La-de-Das. Are they still around? I remember when "Hey Baby" was No.1 over here some years ago.

Shayne: If you think "He's A Liar" is Barry Gibb's worst song, I guess you haven't heard his solo 1984 album "Now Voyager" I've got it in sitting in front me right now, bought it in 1984, haven't played it since 1984. Talk about being in mint condition. I think he had dymentia when he did it. The first track on Side 1 is called "I Am Your Driver". I'll say NO MORE!!!!! The Salvation Army Op-Shop refused to take it.


Message: 34823 Posted: Thu Aug 05 00:05:56 2004 By: David S
Subject: reply to jimbob about dvd

Yes, that DVD is from a concert in Germany in 1999. Can't answer the rest of your questions, though, about vintage footage. Sorry.

Message: 34822 Posted: Wed Aug 04 23:16:17 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: sorry 'bout that

Sorry folks, pushed the wrong button!

Message: 34821 Posted: Wed Aug 04 23:14:37 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: Re: reply to jimbob about dvd/ old footage

Hey David, I think you're right! I seem to remember the words Ohne Filter but didnt know what they meant. Is that '99 then? Can those that have seen it comment on it? Ive never really heard much about it, tho part of the reason is probably that I just assumed the disc would be in the American format, meaning it cant be played on the standard equipment here. In saying that tho, I think a lot of dvd players we can get now are multi zone. The other thing I have wondered about of late is, apart from Musikladen, are there any early performances of the band in existence? Seeing as the guys made it so big right from the start, surely there is concert footage somewhere? There is footage Ive seen from that era of bands that certainly didnt reach the level of success that America did. Recently I read here someone commenting that the guys didnt seem that into it on Musicladen, and I remember Dan writing that at that point they were pretty burned out after a gruelling touring schedule.I imagine also, it being hard to get too enthused about performing 'live' in front of cameras only, especially considering at the time they would have been one of the worlds major concert attractions. And Sister Golden Hair had obviously not been released, tho it couldnt have been far away. So what vault does this footage lie in I wonder?

Message: 34820 Posted: Wed Aug 04 22:41:00 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: Re: reply to jimbob about dvd

Hey David, I think you're right! I seem to remember the words Ohne Filter but didnt know what they meant. Is that '99 then? Can those that have seen it comment on it? Ive never really heard much about it, tho part of the reason is probably that I just assumed the disc would be in the American format, meaning it cant be played on the standard equipment here. In saying that tho,

Message: 34819 Posted: Wed Aug 04 22:05:22 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Raiders (The band)

<<IMO, Paul Revere and The Raiders without Mark Lindsay just wouldn't be the same. If given the choice between seeing a current concert by Paul Revere and The Raiders versus seeing Mark Lindsay as a solo artist, it's the latter hands down for me.>>

That is not surprising.

<<Lindsay still "Kicks" major butt in concert.>>

And, do you know this because you have seen him live for yourself?

Message: 34818 Posted: Wed Aug 04 21:11:02 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Bill Medley

Saw Bill Medley awhile back on the Larry King show where he said he would continue singing Righteous Brothers songs in concert but with Bobby Hatfield on a screen behind him singing much like Natalie Cole and Hank Williams Jr. did with their father, respectively.

Speaking of Hank Williams Jr., has anyone seen Jr's son who is also a country music performer but not very well known it seems? Wow, what a spitting image he is of his late grandfather! It's rather incredible how much the two look and sound alike especially seeing how Jr. doesn't look nor sound anything like his late father.

Message: 34817 Posted: Wed Aug 04 20:35:24 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Raiders (The band)

IMO, Paul Revere and The Raiders without Mark Lindsay just wouldn't be the same. If given the choice between seeing a current concert by Paul Revere and The Raiders versus seeing Mark Lindsay as a solo artist, it's the latter hands down for me. Lindsay still "Kicks" major butt in concert.

Message: 34816 Posted: Wed Aug 04 17:57:58 2004 By: David S
Subject: reply to jimbob about dvd

It's probably the Germany show--does it have the same setlist as the Ohne Filter DVD?

Message: 34815 Posted: Wed Aug 04 16:24:15 2004 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: Re: America at lunch

that's interesting Robyn, I was at the doctor's office and I heard musak for Young Moon

Message: 34814 Posted: Wed Aug 04 14:55:00 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: Sydney shows

Gidday Bluey. Thats interesting about the Sydney shows selling so fast. As you probably know, the Definitive CD went to number one here in NZ. It was so cool walking into all the music stores and seeing it climbing its way to the top. Is there a release date for the dvd yet? Someone mentioned it is on sale in Oz in September. There is no news of its release here yet.Jenna, thanks for your comments on county fairs. We dont have such a thing here. They do sound a lot of fun. Ive been meaning to ask, there is a dvd available here of the guys, released March this year, but it doesnt say when it was filmed or where. It is the usual set list, with Pages included. Anyone know? Is it the Equador show from '98?

Message: 34813 Posted: Wed Aug 04 14:53:17 2004 By: valynda
Subject: Raiders (The band)

Hi Red,
No, I wouldn't say he was skinny at all!


Message: 34812 Posted: Wed Aug 04 14:37:21 2004 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Bill Medley

Yes, the Raiders Rock & not the football team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice they have some new blood coming in to carry them onward & upward. Was he as skinny as his Dad?


Message: 34811 Posted: Wed Aug 04 14:31:43 2004 By: valynda
Subject: Bill Medley

Hi all,
Hey Red Oak, You mentioned Bill Medley.

At the Calif. Mid State Fair the other night Paul Revere and The Raiders were performing.
They have a new lead singer, it's Bill Medley's son! I can't remember if his name was Darrin or Derek, (something like that.)

I took some pictures with him and got his autograph. (Can't quite make out the first name.)

When Paul Revere introduced the new "Baby Raider", he said that Bill called and wanted to get his son out of the house, now that he was forty!

He is blonde and blue eyed and strongly resembles his dad, and sure looks cute in his Raider spandex!

Bye for now, Valerie

Message: 34810 Posted: Wed Aug 04 13:43:36 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: America at lunch

I went to Arco Towers, across from Central Library for lunch and WHAT was wafting over the Musak???? MUSKRAT LOVE!!!!!!! I had to laugh, nice to hear ANY America played in unexpected places.

Message: 34809 Posted: Wed Aug 04 10:24:15 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: RE: B'days, History & Cough Medicine

Red, You are too funny, funny, funny! I hope I don't make that mistake at the pharmacy tonight!
Been watching the Central Park DVD before I have to go to work. God, Gerry was such a hunk back then. But then, Ger, you still are one now...

Message: 34808 Posted: Wed Aug 04 06:49:28 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History & Cough Medicine

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 4, 2004

55 years ago - Solo artist Rick Derringer is born. (1947)

48 years ago - Elvis Presley's "Hound Dog" is released. (1956)

47 years ago - The Everly Brothers make their second appearance on the Ed Sullivan Show and introduce their upcoming single, "Wake Up Little Susie," a song which would go on to cause some major controversy and be banned from some radio stations. (1957)

46 years ago - Billboard Magazine introduces its "Hot 100" record chart, which is part popularity and a barometer of the movement of potential hits. (1958)

38 years ago - The day after the South African government bans Beatle records from airing in response to John Lennon's statement that the band was now more popular than Jesus Christ, a ban on the broadcast of any and all Beatles records on U.S. radio stations goes into effect on most of the country's radio stations. (1966)

36 years ago - The two day Newport Pop Festival begins in Costa Mesa, California. 100,000 fans show up to see and hear Sonny & Cher, Tiny Tim, Jefferson Airplane, Steppenwolf, the Grateful Dead, the Byrds, Iron Butterfly and Eric Burdon & the Animals among others. (1968)

35 years ago - Bill Graham, concert promoter and the owner of the Fillmores East and West, says that he's done with San Francisco as of December 31. That's when the new owners will assume responsibility of the Fillmore West. (1969)

34 years ago - The Medicine Ball Caravan, featuring the Grateful Dead and hippie groups like Wavy Gravy, becomes rock's first movable festival. It starts in San Francisco and makes it over to the U.K. (1970)

30 years ago - Paul Simon's "Love Me Like A Rock" is released. (1974)

29 years ago - Led Zeppelin's vocalist Robert Plant and his family suffer extensive injuries in a car accident. It happens during their vacation on the Mediterranean island of Rhodes. His wife, son, daughter and himself suffer broken bones and assorted bruises. This delays the groups U.S. tour in the fall. It would be a full two years before Led Zeppelin plays in the U.S. again. (1975)

25 years ago - A benefit for the widow and kids of late Little Feat singer Lowell George pulls in 20,000 people at the Forum in Inglewood. It grosses over $230,000. Performers include the remaining members of Little Feat plus Linda Ronstadt, Jackson Browne, Nicolette Larson, Emmylou Harris, Bonnie Raitt and Michael McDonald. (1979)

25 years ago - Led Zeppelin play their first U.K. concert date in four years to a capacity throng of 120,000 at the annual Knebworth Festival in Knebworth Park, Hertfordshire, England. (1979)

24 years ago - John Lennon and Yoko Ono begin recording their album "Double Fantasy" at New York's Hit Factory Studio. (1980)

20 years ago - Phil Collins marries Jill Tavelman. They later divorce. (1984)

17 years ago - The soundtrack to "Dirty Dancing" was released. (1987)


Bill Medley & Jennifer Warnes - (I've Had) The Time Of My Life

Now I've had the time of my life
No I never felt like this before
Yes I swear it's the truth
and I owe it all to you
'Cause I've had the time of my life
and I owe it all to you

I've been waiting for so long
Now I've finally found someone
To stand by me
We saw the writing on the wall
As we felt this magical

Now with passion in our eyes
There's no way we could disguise it
So we take each other's hand
'Cause we seem to understand
The urgency just remember

You're the one thing
I can't get enough of
So I'll tell you something
This could be love because


Cough Medicine ...

The owner of a drug store walks in to find a guy leaning heavily against a wall. The owner asks the clerk "What's with that guy over there by the wall?"
The clerk goes "Well, he came in here this morning to get something for his cough. I couldn't find the cough syrup, and I gave him an entire bottle of laxative by mistake."
The owner goes "You idiot! You can't treat a cough with a bottle of
The clerk goes "Well it must work, he hasn’t coughed since he took the laxatives!"


Happy Hump Day!!!!!!!!

Thanks Mark M for the kind words.

NancyH, here are some lyrics from Dirty Dancing for you to be able to work faster today;-):-)

Take care all............

Red Man

Message: 34807 Posted: Wed Aug 04 05:57:24 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: re bee gees gold

Bluey,I also agree that "I still Love you" is one of the better tracks on that CD. "Wild flower" is nice and if for nothing else,is one of the few tunes Maurice is the featured vocalist on. To put this Cd in perspective,I sold my Japanese import of this on Ebay earlier this year to the tune of $137 to a fan in Australia. Earlier,I had noticed a sealed copy sold for over $250. So...the price you mentioned would not be out of line,or not surprise me at all. "Living Eyes" is a rare disc to find,despite the lack of any Big hits--but its still a worthy CD to own for any BeeGees fan.

Message: 34806 Posted: Wed Aug 04 03:58:39 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: re bee gees gold

Thanks Shayne, Steve Orchard and Johnny for your replies.

I actually bought the "Living Eyes" album purely because Barry Gibb was quoted as saying that the album was a return to their "pre-disco" days. As Steve O pointed out, two songs got a billing but never appear on any of the Hits compilations (and rightfully so). The Maurice Gibb song "Wildflower" and "I Still Love You" are my favourites on the set. The sellers review on the Amazon site states that the CD is "Very Rare - Hard to Find". As you said Johnny it should be $24.99 but right through to Checkout it still reads $249.99. For that price you would want Barry Gibb to hand deliver it and take the dog out for a walk!

Jimbob pointed out that America is well received in Oz and N.Z.

To put Jimbob's point in perspective, when the Sydney Opera House venue was officially announced, via newspapers, radio and a few TV commercials, it was announced that there was to be only one show, Friday, 30/6/04.
When the tickets finally went on sale on a Monday, 9am, I got to Ticketek at around 9.30am but was told that all tickets were sold. The only way I got two tickets was by ringing the Opera House direct and I just got the last remaining few. A second show was immediately announced which also sold out. As I said before, the boys only get over here about every two years and every show I have attended was a sell-out. I can promise you, after being in the audience, that the forthcoming DVD will be worth the wait!

Thanks for your company, Bluey.

Message: 34805 Posted: Tue Aug 03 18:21:36 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Caught Up...Finally

I missed you 2 Mo.

Message: 34804 Posted: Tue Aug 03 17:00:31 2004 By: Alan
Subject: Steve L, Joe Doyle, George Grantham & Stuff

Hello all,

I have been away from the chat folder most of the summer (this seems to be a habit). Right at the beginning of the summer, I spent 3 weeks up on Webb Lake in Weld (with my family) with no phone, computer or internet. The rest of the summmer I've spent catching up on stuff.

I haven't had the time to catch up on the chat folder from where I left off, but I have read the most recent posts, so here's my comments:

Steve L - what an incredible experience to be invited up on stage to play "Horse" with the guys!!! Great pictures! You lucky bum!

Joe Doyle rules! What an incredible job he did on those America covers. His choice of songs to cover was great as well.

Shocking news about George Grantham. I am a big fan of Poco. I saw them last summer in Rockland, Maine. I met with the whole band after the show, chatted, and got autographs and pictures. They are all incredibly friendly and down-to-earth, much like our guys. Glad to hear he is doing well. I certainly hope he has a full recovery.


Message: 34803 Posted: Tue Aug 03 15:51:31 2004 By: Anita
Subject: New Show-Cleveland

Erin has added a new show to the list: September 5, Cleveland, Tower Ampitheater, called the Taste of Cleveland. Sounds delicious. It's a four-day affair with America playing on Sunday.

Message: 34802 Posted: Tue Aug 03 15:49:24 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Happy B'day, History, & Car Crash

I read your page everyday, and have never taken the time to say thank do a great job !
Your joke today still has me chuckling ! Thanks.....
Mark M

Message: 34801 Posted: Tue Aug 03 15:45:43 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re:Stanislaus County Fair

I agree. I once went to see Graham Nash at the Ventura County Fair and saw an impromptu CSN concert ( this was LOOOONNNNGGGGG time before they reunited) County Fairs are fun for the concert goer and I would imagine fun for the bands as well (although I doubt they get to go on the tilt-a- whirl!)

Message: 34800 Posted: Tue Aug 03 12:54:46 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re:Stanislaus County Fair


Yeah, at times some interesting events or things happen at those Fairs but they can be a lot of fun and lots of bands are booked at County Fairs... Journey, Creedence Clearwater and Sugar Ray were there recently as well. Although, I saw them a few years ago at a local Winery which was a fantastic place and a lot more respectable. It must have been great to see them at the Sydney Opera House!


Message: 34799 Posted: Tue Aug 03 12:06:57 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Month of August free

I'm with Mark on this one. If you spent 3/4 of your life on the road, wouldn't you welcome a few weeks back at home to sleep in your own bed?

Message: 34798 Posted: Tue Aug 03 08:40:04 2004 By: Traveler
Subject: Re: Off topic news on POCO

It is very hard to believe that this happened after just seeing them open for AMERICA on July 23rd. I am still in shock, and hope that George has a full and speedy recovery.

Message: 34797 Posted: Tue Aug 03 06:45:13 2004 By: red oak
Subject: Happy B'day, History, & Car Crash

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 3, 2004

49 years ago - Bill Haley files suit against Dave Miller of Essex Records. Haley asks the court to ban Miller from issuing recordings Haley made while under an Essex contract. The suit describes the recording as "of inferior quality to said plantiffs current releases." (1955)

44 years ago - Mickey & Sylvia reunite and return to the studio thanks to the pleading of RCA A&R executives Hugo Peretti and Luigi Creatore. Their last big hit, "Love is Strange," was in 1958 when the two decided to try the solo circuit. (1960)

41 years ago - The Beatles play their last gig at the Cavern, the club where Brian Epstein first saw them. On the same day, the Beatles make their first appreance on an American chart with "From Me to You" as #125 on Billboards Top 200. (1963)

41 years ago - Releases on this date include The Beach Boys' "Surfer Girl" and Allan Sherman's "Hello Muddah, Hello Fadda." (1963)

38 years ago - While in Los Angeles to do a concert, the Rolling Stones record "Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby." The song is released on September 23 and controversy ensues. The sleeve picture shows the group dressed in drag, walking around on New York City's Park Avenue. (1966)

36 years ago - The first Newport Pop Festival opens in Costa Mesa to over 100,000 people. Performers include Steppenwolf, Jefferson Airplane and The Grateful Dead. (1968)

35 years ago - Carl Wilson of the Beach Boys is indicted for failure to report for civilian duty in lieu of serving two years in the army. Wilson did report to the L.A. County Hospital at his appointed date. However, he conducted music classes for handicapped patients rather than to act as an institutional helper. (1969)

33 years ago - Ringo Starr receives a gold record for "It Don't Come Easy." He wrote the tune himself. (1971)

33 years ago - Paul McCartney announces the formation of his new band Wings. It's his first group since the Beatles. (1971)

30 years ago - Guitarist Jeff "Skunk" Baxter and drummer Jim Hodder leave Steely Dan. Jeff Porcaro replaces Hodder on drums, while keyboardist Michael McDonald joins the group as well. Both had been part of the group touring band previously. (1974)

30 years ago - Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band open for Anne Murray in New York. It's the last gig for E Street drummer Ernie "Boom Boom" Carter and keyboardist David Sancious. They are replaced by Max Weinberg and Roy Bittan, respectively.(1974)

25 years ago - The Knack hit the top of both the album and singles charts, with their LP, "Get The Knack" and the single, "My Sharona." (1979)

19 years ago - Bruce Springsteen's "Glory Days" peaks at #5 on the chart, while Sting's "If You Love Somebody Set Them Free" peaks at #3. (1985)

17 years ago - Def Leppard releases their "Hysteria" LP. (1987)

16 years ago - Steve Winwood's "Roll With It" hits #1 on the chart. (1988)

15 years ago - The Rolling Stones shoot the video for "Mixed Emotions." (1989)


Allan Sherman - Hello Muddah, Hello Fadduh!

Hello Muddah, hello Fadduh,
Here I am at Camp Grenada
Camp is very entertaining
and they say we'll have some fun if it stops raining.

I went hiking with Joe Spivy
He developed poison ivy
You remember Leonard Skinner
He got ptomaine poisoning last night after dinner.

All the counselors hate the waiters
And the lake has alligators
And the head coach wants no sissies
So he reads to us from something called Ulysses.

Now I don't want this should scare ya
But my bunkmate has malaria
You remember Jeffrey Hardy
They're about to organize a searching party.

Take me home, oh muddah fadduh, take me home, I hate Grenada
Don't leave me out in the forest where I might get eaten by a bear.
Take me home, I promise I will not make noise or mess the house with
other boys, oh please don't make me stay, I've been here one whole day.

Dearest fadduh, darling muddah,
How's my precious little bruddah?
Let me come home if ya miss me
I will even let Aunt Bertha hug and kiss me.

Wait a minute, it stopped hailing,
Guys are swimming, guys are sailing,
Playing baseball, gee that's better,
Muddah Fadduh please disregard this letter.


A Car Crash

After dying in a car crash, three friends go to Heaven for orientation. They are all asked the same question, "When you're lying in your casket, and friends and family are mourning over you, what would you like to hear them say about you?"

The first guy immediately responds, "I would like to hear them say that I was one of the great doctors of my time, and a great family man."

The second guy says, "I would like to hear that I was a wonderful husband and school teacher who made a huge difference in the children of tomorrow."

The last guy thinks for a moment, and then replies, "I guess I'd like to hear them say,

'Look, he's moving!'"


Keep the faith...............


Message: 34796 Posted: Tue Aug 03 05:01:13 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: Re:Stanislaus County Fair

Why is it that America plays county fairs? I have a video of them from 1999 at a fair, and it is nothing less than insulting to the band. People walking through the frame(of the camera), talking right through the performance. I read America reviews often like this, yet when America hit New Zealand and Australia they are treated like the legends they are.

Message: 34795 Posted: Mon Aug 02 22:06:56 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: Off topic news on POCO

That is such terrible news and a real shock... 57 is too young. My brother works at the Cape Cod Melody Tent where Poco was scheduled to perform Friday night, he said they made an announcement which really seemed to stun the crowd. He also went onto say Poco did an accoustic performance that night. I noticed some good news on their site that said his status has been upgraded from stable to improving. I certainly hope he makes a full recovery.


Message: 34794 Posted: Mon Aug 02 21:29:55 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Hat Tricks

Other not-so-nice nicknames for a Rent-A-Cop:
Auxiliary Police (not to be confused with the Ladies' Auxiliary)
Mall Guard

For anyone familiar with WDVE, the rock station in Pittsburgh, you may recall one of the Morning Show characters:
Ben Klingston, MALL GUARD
It doesn't sound so funny in print but made for some hilarious morning drive time comedy.

Sorry, I am officially rambling now.
Good night.

Message: 34793 Posted: Mon Aug 02 21:21:54 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Hat Tricks

I believe "Security Gaurd".

Message: 34792 Posted: Mon Aug 02 21:20:43 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Caught Up...Finally

Howdy y'ans. Got back from our New English vacation last night in time to catch the ladies on live chat for a bit. It was nice to talk to all of you. Sorry I missed you, Bones.
It took me a LONG time to catch up on reading the last week's posts. You all are a loquacious bunch. I'm too tired to look that up, so I hope I've spelled it correctly.
It was a great vacation, RO & Nancio, thanks for thinking of me. Thanks also for bringing up Annie's Song. Yes, as Karen mentioned, it was one of the songs played at our wedding, too. Great song.
Nina Baby, I am so happy to see that you got back online. YIPPEE!! I'm sorry we didn't get to connect for lunch last weekend. I will try calling again next time we are in MA for a visit with the outlaws. Or, maybe I'll just show up at Searstown and see if I can find you!! That would have been a riot. Too funny that you were already there when I was calling to see if you could meet me there. Go figure.
I was shocked and amazed that the guys did the requested dedication of Daisy Jane for the lady in Utah. When I had read that request on VH last week, I thought that it would be really cool of the guys to do it for the soldier and his wife. I just figured, based on the same history that others have mentioned which is that I have NEVER heard the band do a dedication, that it would not happen. In this case, I am happy to have been wrong about that and I applaud Erin and the band for making it such a special occasion for this military family. Way to go.
Howdy Nancio. Hope the new job is going well. I bet you don't miss all of those nasty reports.
Jen, you lucky girl--getting to be at the last show before the big MONTH OF ACUTE WITHDRAWAL.
NancyM...hope the cruise didn't bring you down from your Turning Stone America High. Birchmere. Birchmere. Birchmere.
So, Robyn and Gen, I'm out of the TEA Army? If I listen to this song a bit more, and it grows on me, may I reapply?? Please let me know.
Football season started today. The kids have practice four nights a week for the month. Kait and Molly cheer and Riley is in full contact (as opposed to flag) for the first time. It's basically a cult. The Blue and Gold Cult. Not really, but it is an intense time of year.

Hope all is well with you my fellow fanatics. It has been a pleasure re-immersing myself in all that is America after that week of loneliness. Well, I guess I shouldn't say loneliness...Jeff might take offense. Hmm, that week of...technological deprivation...gawd I need a laptop. Strike that. I don't need a laptop but I really do WANT a laptop. Maybe next year.
Happy Monday...well Tuesday now,

Message: 34791 Posted: Mon Aug 02 21:20:28 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Stanislaus County Fair

You're welcome !! I had to write some of the song titles down in the dark, and it wasn't easy. :)
Mark M

Message: 34790 Posted: Mon Aug 02 21:12:39 2004 By: S.tills
Subject: Hat Tricks

What does the term "rent a cop" from Hat Tricks mean?

Message: 34789 Posted: Mon Aug 02 21:07:04 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Stanislaus County Fair

I was lucky enough to catch the band the other night at the local County Fair as they passed through Turlock, CA. It was fabulous as usual (but doesn't everyone say that?) Gerry said we'd be treated to the long set since they were taking a break for the month of August. I think it was the same set as Utah minus one or two (thanks Mark!) For an outdoor venue the acoustics were still great, but also an interesting place to see them play since at times they had to compete with the noise from carnival rides that had some sort of revving engines! They really drowned out some of the songs but the band just sort of laughed if off at and kept on playing. I'm sure it was a lot different than the House of Blues they played in Vegas the night before. Erin if you attended...I looked around but sorry I missed seeing you, hopefully next time. Of course we saw the other hardest working Erin, the energy she has is amazing! It's incredible how cheerful & friendly the band seems to be night after night even though they must be exhausted or have jet lag. "The Last Unicorn" is a real gem and "Sandman" was really outstanding and definitely deserves the huge standing ovation it usually gets every time! The guys were generous and kind enough to meet everyone who waited & sign things after the show which was great and something we didn't expect they'd do since it wasn't announced and the area was dark without any lighting. The Fairgounds personnel even had to use small flashlights or lighters for them to see what they were signing. I think I got the last Cayman cd that was available which was great since it was misplaced recently. The show was definitely the highlight of the Fair and the only reason to attend.

Hope everyone had a great weekend!

Message: 34788 Posted: Mon Aug 02 20:21:55 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Elvis Presley...He can't be...But He Is

The last couple of Red Oak's post mentioned Elvis and that brought to mind a new CD I just got. It is a new compilation of his early recordings at Sun Records in 1954 and 1955. It is an excellent CD. This is Elvis helping to lay the foundation of and define Rock and Roll. Before Colonial Tom Parker got a hold of him and turned him into a "B" movie actor and a Vegas lounge act. The recordings are stark by later standards, most of them just feature Elvis singing and playing guitar, accompanied by a bass and electric lead guitar. Some of the songs also include a drum and a piano (with Elvis playing piano on one). They even experiment a little with echoes on Elvis voice, which I thought was interesting considering it was done 50 years ago. He does an almost haunting version of Blue Moon that reminded me of John Lennon's song Dream # 9 which was recorded about 20 years later. The liner notes are also very informative about the early days before RCA boughtout Elvis contract for $ 35,000, which was a big sum of money back then. None of the songs on the CD were big hits, that wouldn't come until 1956, but some of them were regional hits in the South and a few of them were national hits on the country charts. Funny it seems like much of the musical innovation in the early and mid 50s came from country music with people like Elvis and Johnny Cash. Anyway, just wanted recommend the CD to anybody who may be interested. If you like rock-a-billy or are just interested in the history of rock, this CD is essential.

Message: 34787 Posted: Mon Aug 02 20:06:03 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Off topic news on POCO

Sad news. I pray for his speedy recovery.

Message: 34786 Posted: Mon Aug 02 20:05:12 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Month of August free

It could be that they are working in the studio, or maybe they are just taking a well deserved vacation. Even stars need a break every now and then.

Message: 34785 Posted: Mon Aug 02 18:13:22 2004 By: David S
Subject: Month of August free

Does the month of August free of America concerts mean they might be in the studio, recording songs for a new album? We can always keep our fingers crossed.

Message: 34784 Posted: Mon Aug 02 15:52:31 2004 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Off topic news on POCO

That's terrible. Poco just led off for AMERICA in San Diego at Humphrey's. Poco used to do a lot of shows with AMERICA & they used to have the same management.

Message: 34783 Posted: Mon Aug 02 14:32:55 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Off topic news on POCO

I found this information on the internet and I know there are a lot of Poco fans that frequent this web site as well, so I am passing it on FYI.

Drummer for Band Poco Collapses on Stage!

SPRINGFIELD, Mass. - The drummer for the longtime rock band Poco suffered a stroke on stage and collapsed one song into a performance at an outdoor concert on Thursday.

The band, which was playing at the free CityBlock Party in downtown Springfield, had just finished playing its first song when George Grantham, 57, of Nashville, Tenn., was stricken, the Republican of Springfield reported.

The show was delayed for 10 or 15 minutes while band members asked for help from the audience and several doctors and nurses in the crowd rushed to the stage.

Rusty Young, lead singer and founder of the band, said Friday that Grantham was resting at Baystate Medical Center after emergency surgery to relieve fluid on his brain.

Grantham was a founding member of the band and played with Poco on 12 albums from 1969 to 1976.

Message: 34782 Posted: Mon Aug 02 10:35:21 2004 By: Sheldon
Subject: Tickets For Keswick Theatre

Unfortunately for me, I will be unable to attend the Sunday, Oct 24 show at the Keswick Theatre in Glenside, PA. However, I have 2 tickets that I now need to unload.
The seats are CC-105 and CC-106 Center. I was told when I purchased them that the seats are in Row 6.
I will sell them for exactly what I paid which is $36.50 per ticket - $73 for both. I would really like to sell both at once but if you only want one, I'm not in a position to turn it down!! Email me at and we'll talk.

Thanks - Sheldon

Message: 34781 Posted: Mon Aug 02 09:57:34 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Dewey's Lyrics

Bones, you are too much! You had me rolling on the floor laughing so hard last night, I nearly woke up the entire household! One really does have to look beyond the surface to find their own "inner meaning." Dewey is a genius with lyrics, there's no doubt of that!

Message: 34780 Posted: Mon Aug 02 09:09:20 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Dewey's Lyrics

As Anita and I found out very early this morning, Dewey is a Genius with his song writing and how one is able to inter-change words in his songs as well as song titles. Keep an eye on that Horse Anita!!!

Message: 34779 Posted: Mon Aug 02 07:04:53 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History & Sack Strain

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 2, 2004

61 years ago - Garth Hudson, organ and sax player for The Band, is born. (1943)

53 years ago - Andrew Gold(Lonely Boy) is born. (1951)

48 years ago - In an article called "Elvis Presley...He can't be...But He Is," Look Magazine reports Presley records have grossed over $6 million and the singer receives over 3,000 fan letters a week. (1956)

43 years ago - The Beatles begin their engagement as regular headliners at Liverpool's Cavern Club, where they'll perform about 300 times in the next two years. (1961)

41 years ago - Eric Clapton quits the band, The Roosters, to form Casey Jones and the Engineers. (1963)

40 years ago - The Kinks open for the Beatles at the Gaumont Cinema in England. (1964)

35 years ago - Bob Dylan shows up unexpectedly to his 10-year high school reunion in Hibbing, Minnesota. He and his wife leave early when a drunk tried to pick a fight with him. (1969)

32 years ago - Brian Cole, an original member of the Association, dies of a herion overdose. He played bass on the hits "Windy", "Cherish" and "Never My Love." (1972)

30 years ago - Funeral services were held in Hollywood for Mama Cass Elliot. Among those in attendance were John and Michelle Phiilips, Lou Adler and Sonny Bono. Cass Elliot's body was cremated and her ashes were buried in Maryland. (1974)

29 years ago - "One Of These Nights" by the Eagles hits #1 on the pop chart, while Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Saturday Night Special" peaks at #27. (1975)

22 years ago - Veteran Latin folk-pop singer Jose Feliciano weds Susan Omillian in California. (1982)

17 years ago - Billy Joel plays a concert in Leningrad. Audience members carry Joel out on their shoulders at the end. (1987)


The Eagles - One Of These Nights

One of these dreams, one of these lost and lonely dreams, now
We're gonna find one, one that really screams
I've been searching for the daughter of the devil himself
I've been searching for an angel in white
I've been waiting for a woman who's a little of both
And I can feel her but she's nowhere in sight

Oh, loneliness will blind you in between the wrong and the right
Oh, coming right behind you, swear I'm gonna find you one of these nights

ONE OF THESE NIGHTS oh, in between the dark and the light
Coming right behind you, swear I'm gonna find you
Get you, baby, one of these nights


Dewey should have had known about this exercise when he had his broken arm. Would have made rehab much easier.

Just came across this exercise suggested for seniors, to build muscle strength in the arms and shoulders. It seems so easy, so I thought I'd pass it on to some of my younger friends.

The article suggested doing it 3 days a week.

Begin by standing on a comfortable surface, where you have plenty of room at each side.

With a 5-LB potato sack in each hand, extend your arms straight out from your sides, and hold them there as long as you can. Try to reach a full minute, then relax.

Each day, you'll find that you can hold this position for just a bit longer.

After a couple of weeks, move up to 10-LB potato sacks. Then 50-LB potato sacks, and eventually try to get to where you can lift a 100-LB potato sack in each hand and hold your arms straight out for more than a minute.

After you feel confident at that level, put a potato in each of the sacks; but be careful.


How was vacation Mo? Hope you had fun.

Nancy, does it always rain in Pa? Saw the race yesterday from Pocono, little lakes all around the track.

Have a stupendous Monday.


Message: 34778 Posted: Sun Aug 01 21:30:50 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Last Samurai

Very good point....It is a great cd. I will let him borrow mine for awhile !
Why is it that it has never been available in any stores? I got mine from "Amazon". The concert was the only other place I have ever seen it.
Mark M

Message: 34777 Posted: Sun Aug 01 21:19:48 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Last Samurai

You should have picked him up a copy of the Grand Cayman concert instead- awesome live work, very clean recording. It would have made him want more, I am sure!

Message: 34776 Posted: Sun Aug 01 21:01:44 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Last Samurai

I just got home from spending the evening with my "best friend" and his family. We ate dinner and watched "The last Samurai". What a great movie...totaly inspiring.
After the concert the other night, he was so impressed with "America", he had me burn a CD for him, for his birthday. I recorded the song list from the concert.(without nowhere man)He was grateful. Said he didn't have an "America" cd. Can you believe that? lol I of course had all the music, except for the above "Beatle" song. Ok, I have it by "The Beatles", but that didn't work for this cd.
He is A "Beatle" if I can just lure him to the "America" side of the ocean??
Mark M

Message: 34775 Posted: Sun Aug 01 20:28:34 2004 By: Shayne
Subject: Re: bee gees gold

Damn, the album wasn't worth a lick when I owned it. It was a terrible album, except for the title track. But only that song and "He's A Liar" made the charts. "He's a Liar" may well have been Barry Gibb's worst single, if not worst song.

Message: 34774 Posted: Sun Aug 01 18:38:02 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Joe's CD

How can any hardcore(?) fan go since April without playing any America material? That is mindblowing...DanC.

Message: 34773 Posted: Sun Aug 01 16:56:33 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Joe's CD

I absolutely agree, Bruce. It's an incredible collection of work. I so look forward to Joe's next CD if it's going to be anything like this one! But until then, I'm enjoying the heck out of "Homemade America".

I must confess though, it's the first America/America-related CD that I've played since April.

Message: 34772 Posted: Sun Aug 01 16:11:05 2004 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: Joe's CD

Joe's CD is really a pleasure to listen to. He obviously put a lot of hard work into it. Good job Joe- thanks so much for sharing this with all of us!

Message: 34771 Posted: Sun Aug 01 14:25:04 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: Tonight's Listening Party

Back from cruising! So sad it's over. Will be there tonight. Missed everyone!!

Message: 34770 Posted: Sun Aug 01 10:34:53 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: bee gees gold

Actually,the CD had two charting singles here in the States: "He's a Liar" reached #30 in 1981,and the title track reached #45 following that in late '81. Still a good CD though,but a Major disappointment chart-wise following the "Spirits Having Flown" LP of 1979(and the subsequent "BeeGees Greatest" which reached #1 in late '79 here in the U.S.)

Message: 34769 Posted: Sun Aug 01 10:25:15 2004 By: valynda
Subject: HOB Anaheim

Hi everyone!
I'm sorry it's been so long since I posted. So much has been going on in the last couple of months, including computer problems.

First of all I want to say a big HELLO to Robyn, Nanci and Steve L. It was SO nice to meet all of you at the Anaheim show!

Steve, it truly was an honor to meet you and thank you in person for your website! Again, Thank You!

Robyn, I'm sorry I missed you at the end of the show to say goodbye and take a picture with you. I had gone upstairs to try and find Dewey and Gerry for an autograph and picture. Luckily I caught them for a moment and got my picture and Gerry's autograph. Even though they only had a few seconds, they were as kind as always.

I also got to speak with Erin for a few minutes. What a sweetheart she is! I spoke to her about more California shows. I have never met her before, but she is very friendly and outgoing with us fans.
(A Big HI to Erin, if she is reading this!)

Our Calif. Mid State Fair has started here in Paso Robles. I'll have to post later about some of the concerts.
I sure wish that AMERICA was gonna be here! I'll try to enjoy the Fair anyway!

Bye for now, Valerie

Message: 34768 Posted: Sun Aug 01 09:42:46 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: bee gees gold

Bluey ~ I'll sell you mine. "Only" $149.99 AND free shipping. What a deal, ahh? What are friends for? : )

But seriously, $249.99 surely has to be a mis-print, no? Like maybe it should be $24.99?

Message: 34767 Posted: Sun Aug 01 09:10:16 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: bee gees gold

Try and beat this!

Earlier I was listening to my Bee Gees LP "Living Eyes". It's A single album, doesn't have any hit singles on it but easy listening. Had a brainwave and thought I'd look up Amazon to see if I could get the CD. One (1) available.

$US 249.99 plus shipping.

If anybody wants it, all yours.- hurry, you might miss out!!!


Message: 34766 Posted: Sun Aug 01 08:36:13 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: My All Around Catch Up Post!

Hi Everyone ~~ Just another grey rainy, muggy day here in PA, seems like every song I have been hearing played on the radio has been about Rainy Days... When Ooooh when will the Rain goooo away and let Summer have it's last say! ~~ School starts in 24 days and the Kids actually can't wait for it to start! Not a good summer for heading to the Pool! Booo hooo Bummer!

A Big Thumbs UP to Gerry & Dewey for Honoring the Special Request for "Daisy Jane" at the Layton Show! Yeahhhhh! I Loved reading that they did this... Spinetingly chills were all over me, Yep you Guys are the Bestest of the Best, and Getting Better Yet! Thanks!!!! :)

Regarding the VFTHW Pics ~~ My 1st thought upon seeing the Delaware Pic was that Yes this work construction trailer lot has upgraded to Indoor Plumbing! LOL!!!! :) Hmmmm looking at the pic with the "Outback Steakhouse" & Nice Blue sky with the whispy layers of white cloud patterns, brought the release date for the Sydney Live DVD to my mind.. and a SMILE to my face! ~~ The Vegas Pic ~~ What a tall building there in your view, one of my new co-workers is there in Vegas on vacation now. Geeze this pic from Modesto shows me that it is wall to wall buildings in this part of sunny Calif! ~~ Well Gerry, Dewey, Woodz, Willie & Richard your stretch of shows are over for now... and it is August ~ Time for the 3 R's I hope! You guys sure do deserve a break... We do appreciate all the ways you Accomodate Us Fans! ~~ I must admit tho, I am Curious to see what this Silent Touring Month brings Our way! :)

Hi there Mark M & SteveL ~~ Thanks for sharing your AMERICA Heaven with us from the Layton Show. Glad you got to meet them Mark M... thanks for the playlist too. Thanks a bunch Steve L for all of your neat Views from the Webmaster's camera, soooo great that your vacation included a show in Calif.. and there in your home state too. I really enjoyed all of the not sooo usual AMERICA pics... By the looks of Woodz's boots, that's one rattle snake less to worry about, nicely woven pattern for sure, sooo Cool of Willie to give your son his Drumsticks, signed!, and great to see a pic of this curiousity catcher Pennywhistle, Rich uses for the beginning of the Last Unicorn.. I Loved the Nice Smiles on all of your Pics, I am sure lots of Memory Keepsake's to add to your collection of them! :)

Hey there Tommie Girl & Anita ~~ Tooo much you guys just missing each other at the Washington show... I am glad you got to meet them Tommie :) Nice to hear from you and it was fun chatting with you last wed too. ~~ Thanks Anita for the review and the pics... Nice to hear you enjoyed your trip to the West Coast, I am sure you came home with lots of Memory Keepsake's as well! :)

Hey there Linda S ~~ I hope all is going well with your Moving into your new home... and I sure can relate with your Internet Wooo's. My Home PC is still down and I am about to lose my work lines here in my home office this week, sooo I may not have access to the Internet for a while too. Boooo Hooooo Bummers for sure! Huh!

Cheers Margaret, Jimmmmmbob, & Bluey~~ Thanks for all the neat ramblins! ~~ Bluey the first time I took a Listen to my Homecoming Audio DVD ~~ I was Overwhelmed with Joy... It was like hearing these great songs In A Come To Life Visual, I loved how all of the sounds, as well as the individual music notes seemed to just stand right out... You can betcha I love hitting the replay button on this... Homecoming has Always been one of My Most Favorite Albums of theirs... :)

Hey Bones ~~ Might Be Your Love is playing here now ~ Nice Huh! :)

Hey there Mo ~~ I hope you are enjoying your vacation... :)

Red Ooooo Red ~~~ What more can I say, Your very Well Rounded Posts carry me through my oooh soooo busy, crazy days sooo Nicely and for that I say a Big Thanks to my special friend! Keep em a Comin my way... Too much yesterday was the end of July, and I felt soooo strange not having any End of the Month ROLLOVER Reports to doooo. :) ;) ~~ In your history news today it mentions a survey done by Seventeen Magazine about the average teenage girl listening to either the radio or albums each day sooo many hours... This sure did bring a Smile and some pretty nice younger day Memories my way... Yes that could be said of me still yet today... I guess in some ways I never really grew up Huh!!!! :) Oooooh how I love having my Music accompany my day! :)

Now last but definitely Not Least! ~~~ A Big Thumbs Up goes out to Joe Doyle from me too... Mr Mailman brought my copy of Homemade AMERICA last wednesday and I hit the replay on it already a dozen times or more... I wrote Joe a Chapter Email, telling him about the effect of hearing these songs on this cd... Yes Like Steve L I had the songs saved to my puter and had listened to them on my winamp, but let me tell you upon hearing this cd, they were soooo Fresh soooo Clear, almost as tho Joe had mailed himself with this CD and he was here in my office playing these songs just for me... I loved reading that he is already working on his 2nd cd collection of gems... Once again I just gotta say, I love getting to hear all of these Labors of Love from the fans... For sure it has to bring Ear to Ear Smiles to Gerry, Dewey & Dan's faces... WOW ~~ I got those spinetingly chills here again! Thanks a bunch Joe, I look forward to hearing your next cd.. Your time and effort to do this for us all is greatly appreciated indeed! :) :) :) Joe ~ Joe ~ Joe!!!!

Ooooh 1 more last thing ~~ Thanks Robl for sharing this sad news about Jerry Goldsmith's passin! I am sure his talent will be missed but will live on in his movies, each time they are thought about or watched.

That's all I think! Thanks for reading my ooo soo lonnnng ramblins!
See ya, Nancy :)

~~ How bout a tear for the year of 1960, I watched the fins of the Cadillac fall, I remember Dad explain about the Berlin Wall, how bout a tear for the torment and the trouble that was brewing in the Asian way, I wore a smile like the faces that were surround LA , in the city of the lost and found, its hard to get a break, hard to stop from getting turned around, and make the same mistakes, my reputation is on the line, the final day of 59, but Like the Sun ~ Watch Me Shine Today! ~~ Sing it Gerry :) :) :)

Message: 34765 Posted: Sun Aug 01 07:47:01 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Virus Warning

Just a reminder, if you ever receive a message that is supposedly from me and it came from my account, you can (and should) delete it immediately because it is almost assuredly a virus. I NEVER send mail messages from my AmericaSL account because that is an incoming ONLY mailbox. I have tried to reduce the number of bogus outgoing mail messages from that account by removing my e-mail link from this chat folder, but since my address still exists on the America Fans web page, there are ways for the viruses to pick it up.


Message: 34764 Posted: Sun Aug 01 06:45:56 2004 By: red oak
Subject: America

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is August 1, 2004

62 years ago - Jerry Garcia, vocalist and guitarist of the Grateful Dead, is born. (1942)

51 years ago - Solo artist Robert Cray is born. (1953)

44 years ago - Billboard reports the findings of a Seventeen magazine survey...the average teenage girl listens to the radio two hours and thirteen minutes a day and plays records two hours and twelve minutes a day. (1960)

44 years ago - Def Leppard lead singer Joe Elliot is born. (1960)

44 years ago - Chubby Checker's "The Twist" is released. (1960)

44 years ago - Elvis Presley is named Public Enemy #1 by the East German newspaper, "Young World." (1960)

40 years ago - Billboard reports the harmonica is making a comeback in a big way thanks to its use by the likes of Stevie Wonder, the Rolling Stones, the Beatles and Bob Dylan. (1964)

40 years ago - Jan & Dean's "Little Old Lady From Pasadena" peaks at #3 on the pop chart. (1964)

40 years ago - The Beatles' "A Hard Days Night" hits #1 on the chart. (1964)

40 years ago - Rod Stewart's group Steam Packet opens 2 shows for the Rolling Stones at the London Palladium. (1964)

36 years ago - Mick Jagger's movie "Performance" is released. (1968)

35 years ago - The three day Atlantic City Pop Festival opens in New Jersey. It's the first such festival in the Philadelphia-New York area. Over 110,00 come out to hear such artists as Iron Butterfly, CCR, Jefferson Airplane, Little Richard, Janis Joplin, Sanatana, Procul Harem and Joe Cocker perform. (1969)

33 years ago - The concerts for Bangladesh are held at Madison Square Garden. The two shows are put together by George Harrison out of concern for the starving people of the Bangladesh nation. Highlights include Ringo Starr flubbing the lyrics in his hit "It Don't Come Easy" and an unannounced appearance by Bob Dylan. (1971)

33 years ago - Keyboardist Tony Kaye quits Yes to form Badger. He is replaced by Rick Wakeman. (1971)

31 years ago - The flick "American Graffiti" opens. It wtars Ron Howard, Richard Dreyfuss and Harrison Ford among others, and features a soundtrack of 50's rock and roll hits. (1973)

31 years ago - Jerry Garcia celebrates his 31st birthday by playing a concert at Roosevelt Stadium with the Grateful Dead. The rocker was surprised withs a cake wheeled on stage containing a naked girl. He was, in his words, "embarrassed." (1973)

30 years ago - Pete Townshend and Keith Moon join Eric Clapton at Atlanta's Omni. Townshend jammed on "Layla" and he later performed a modified Who finish by smashing a plastic ukele over Clapton's head. (1974)

27 years ago - "Elvis: What Happened?," is a book Elvis Presley and his alleged drug problem. It's published by Ballatine and written by ex-bodyguards Red & Sonny West and Dave Hebler. The book presents the king of rock and roll as an overweight recluse obsessed with religion and the supernatural. The authors will call a press conference saying their reason for writing the book was not money, but to save Presley from himself. The book sells over three million copies. (1977)

27 years ago - Chrissie Hynde almost marries Sid Vicious. She offers him 2 quid to do it, so that she wouldn't be deported. (1977)

24 years ago - George Harrison forms a production company called "Hand Made Films Productions." (1980)

23 years ago - A new era begins: MTV is launched in in estimate 2.1 million homes. The first video shown is The Buggles tune "Video Killed the Radio Star." (1981)

23 years ago - The Moody Blues' "Gemini Dream" peaks at #12 on the singles chart, while Rush's "Tom Saywer" peaks at #44. (1981)

17 years ago - Eurythmics guitarist Dave Stewart marries Bananarama member Siobhan Fahey in Paris. (1987)

17 years ago - The Grateful Dead's LP "In The Dark" enters the chart. The LP contains the groups biggest single ever, "Touch Of Grey." Also, Bob Seger's "Shakedown" hits #1 on the pop singles chart. (1987)

16 years ago - Martin Scorsese's "The Last Temptation of Christ" opens. David Bowie appears as Pontius Pilate while the film is scored by Peter Gabriel. (1988)

15 years ago - Eric Clapton plays a free concert in Mozambique, Africa for more than 100,000 people. Proceeds of the show went to charities in the war torn nation. (1989)

10 years ago - The Rolling Stones begin their 43 city Voodoo Lounge world tour at RFK Stadium in Washington, D.C. (1994)

8 years ago - MTV launches another channel, M2. (1996)


Bob Seger - Shakedown

No matter what you think you pull you'll find it's not enough
No matter who you think you know you won't get through
It's a given L.A. law
Someone's faster on the draw
No matter where you hide I'm comin' after you

No matter how the race is run it always ends the same
Another room without a view awaits downtown
You can shake me for a while
Live it up in style
No matter what you do I'm gonna take you down

Everybody wants into the crowded line
You're busted
Let down
Your guard
Honey, just about the time you're thinkin' it's alright
You're busted


Religious Debate

The Jewish people met and picked an aged but wise Rabbi, Moishe, to represent them in the debate. However, as Moishe spoke no Italian and the Pope spoke no Yiddish, they all agreed that it would be a "silent" debate.

On the chosen day, the Pope and Rabbi Moishe sat opposite each other for a full minute before the Pope raised his hand and showed three fingers. Rabbi Moishe looked back and raised one finger.

Next the Pope waved his finger around his head. Rabbi Moishe pointed to the ground where he sat.

The Pope then brought out a communion wafer and a chalice of wine. Rabbi Moishe pulled out an apple.

With that, the Pope stood up and declared that he was beaten, that Rabbi Moishe was too clever and that the Jews could stay.

Later, the Cardinals met with the Pope, asking what had happened. The Pope said, "First I held up three fingers to represent the Trinity. He responded by holding up one finger to remind me that there is still only one God common to both our beliefs. Then, I waved my finger to show him that God was all around us. He responded by pointing to the ground to show that God was also right here with us. I pulled out the wine and wafer to show that God absolves us of all our sins. He pulled out an apple to remind me of the original sin. He had me beaten and I could not continue."

Meanwhile the Jewish community were gathered around Rabbi Moishe. "How did you win the debate?" they asked.

"I haven't a clue," said Moishe, "First he said to me that we had three days to get out of Italy, so I said to him, Up yours!

Then he tells me that the whole country would be cleared of Jews and I said to him, we're staying right here."

"And then what," asked a woman.

"Who knows?" said Moishe, "He took out his lunch so I took out mine."


There is nothing wrong with America that what is right with America can't fix.


Message: 34763 Posted: Sun Aug 01 06:38:00 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - Modesto, CA

Click here to see the view from Gerry's hotel room in Modesto, CA.

Message: 34762 Posted: Sun Aug 01 06:37:19 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - Las Vegas

Click here to see the view from Gerry's hotel room in Las Vegas, NV.

Message: 34761 Posted: Sun Aug 01 06:36:08 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Listening Party/Silent Letter

Tonight's listening party will be Silent Letter, 10 PM EDT, 7 PM PDT. Please join us.

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