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Archives: September 2004

Message: 35821 Posted: Thu Sep 30 17:28:07 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Re My Thursday this and that replies

Hi Nancy, I actually bought "All Things Are Possible" LP when it first came's one of my all time favourites. It was good to see Dewey and Gerry helping out on "Love Is Just Another Word" - to me it is just another great "America" song.
Just like when I first heard "Rainy Day" on the "Horse" EP we got in Oz, I went out and bought the LP, after listening to music samplers of Gino Vannelli's Altimate Collection, including "Living Inside Myself", "Brother To Brother" and particularly, "Hurts To Be In Love" I ordered it on Amazon. The album has 18 tracks, price $US 14.99 plus shipping so I combined my orders, which included Dan's CDs, MusicLaden America DVD, Solomon Burke and Bertie Higgins Classics. Let you know when I get them.

Talk about a song getting into your head, when I was reading messages on this site about "Barnes and Barnes", I mistakenly went into their site and heard a music sampler, "Fish Heads"....I have been singing that bloody song for weeks!!!!! I just hope I don't end up buying it so if you are reading this message God, can you make it - "Out Of Stock".


I took a Fish Head
Out to a movie,
I didn't have to pay
To get it in....uuuuggggghhhh.

Message: 35820 Posted: Thu Sep 30 17:24:23 2004 By: Robsl
Subject: Re: Hollywood show

That's great to hear and thanks for the review John. Glad the guys' tour for 2004 is still going around strong. And that's great that they played a full 2-hour set for you!! America truly is a band that gives their full effort for their fans...they haven't scaled back and that's cool. I would love it if they played even longer i suppose...but two hours is a nice long set, and it's good to hear that they're putting in a great night of entertainment for you guys. Hopefully the Birchmere will be a rockin' show also. I wish i could be there. See you later people.
Take care everyone... Rob L

Message: 35819 Posted: Thu Sep 30 14:43:28 2004 By: John
Subject: Hollywood show

What a great show America performed in Hollywood fl. Even better, I ran into Rich the bass player before and after the show and got to chat with him. Gerry and Dewey went all out playing for 2 hours (the longest I have ever been at a concert with them). They even stayed at the end to meet everyone. These guy just keep getting better and better. We are looking forward to seeing them at Church Street and in Clear Water in a couple of weeks. Keep going guys, we love you.

Message: 35818 Posted: Thu Sep 30 11:53:17 2004 By: Kristal
Subject: Re: Brichmere

Have a blast for me!!

Message: 35817 Posted: Thu Sep 30 08:22:45 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: My Thursday this and that replies!

Hello yeah it's me, not much, how bout you, Geuss I really just wanted to talk to you all!!!! It's been way toooo long ~~ Okay fingers take it from here! :)

Oooh Reeeeddddd ~~~ Thanks sooo Much for the Smile and Laugh you brought to my mumbo jumbo mixed up mind! You Sure are on a Roll Lately, keep em a coming, I look forward to reading them, for sure a Bright Spot in my day! :) ~~ Too much, this Monkeyshiner Geezard pulling this "Lift" on this 47 year old lady who's mind is in a Blurr too! hhahahah! ~~ She comes and she goes, like no one can, she comeees and she gooooes, she slips right through my hands, she's alway buzzing like NEON ... Neon.., neon, neon, who knows how long she can go on before she burns you... sing it John Mayer ;)~~ suppose i said, I am on my best behavior, there are times, I lose my worried mind, would you want me when I'm not myself, wait it out, while I am someone else, suppose i said, colors change for no good reason, the words will go from poetry to pose, would you want me when I'm like myself, wait it out, while I am someone else, and Iiiiii and Iiiiiii will Come Around, I ALWAYS doooo for Youuuuu ~~ Hmmm such a nice song by John Mayer on here now... called "Not Myself" it Kinda fits in with my crazy mood lately~ too much, Sorry everyone for kinda getting off track there... I told you it has been too long since I posted... Ouch!

Hi there Craig ~~ Thanks for the late night Smile your post sent me to my big soft pillow. Soooo great that your Dad has shared his love for AMERICA's music with you and your brothers and sisters... and Soooooo Nice that you all are heading to a show soon... I knew Erin, Gerry & Dewey would Come Through on this Request meet and greet... Wow, what a Memory Keepsake Moment it is gonna be when Your dad and you get to meet them... They are the Bestest of the Best, Enjoy every moment of this Magic! :) Please do come back and share your thoughts and pics with us! I will look forward to hearing all about it!

Hey there Bluey & Madolyn ~~ I too like Gino Vannelli... I must admit tho, the only songs I know of his are "I Just Wanna Stop" and his song "Living Inside Myself", these 2 songs have always stopped me in my tracks to take a closer listen to them on the radio... Bluey please let me know what you think of his CD that you oredered... I will have to do some searching and check out his song clips as well. I just wanna stoppppp, wwwoooo oooo and tell you what I feel about you babe, oooo I just wanna stop the world ain't right without you ... Yep Gino was just here singing this great song on my winamp playlist... :) ~~ I hope you get your Dan Peek cd's soon, enjoy them... and come let us know your thoughts Ok?

Yeppers Mo ~~ Soooooo Good to know that AMERICA is coming Close My Way to Seven Springs this coming Feb.... Yes ~ Yes ~ Yes :)... Wow You & I saw them when they were at Seven Springs on Feb 7, 2001, and just think, we didn't even know each other then... too much... Hope to see you there... :) for sure! :)

Attention, Mo ~ NancyM, Cindy FTS, Anita, Julie,& Kevin ~~ You guys have a Triple Great Time for me at the Birchmere shows... I sure am gonna be thinking of you all... Sing a little Louder for me... I sure hope you guys get treated to some nice surprises... :)

Hey Red... Geuss what Van the Man song is on my sirius channel here right now... hmmm give up .... hmmm MOONDANCE ~~ Yeppers ~~ You can bethcha I am smiling from ear to ear... here... Nice song! ;)

Hope it's not too late to add my 2cents about the VFTHW pics from Florida last week Gerry ~~ Hmmm the one of that Tree of some sorts, that looked like the cottonballs had exploded from getting sooo much wind and rain...was kinda spooky! What a thought provoking view!..and then on the other hand, what an Awesome View from the Hollywood hotel.. Nice, Nice, Nice... what a neat visual get away pic... Thanks for sharing these with us! :)

Hmmm ~~ I finally got around to checking out Matt & Bryce's song clips on the new site... too much how their 2 completely different music style kinda just flow together... I enjoyed "Sapphire's" alot, and Bryce's Grunge is different, but neat, I like his voice alot...I also found myself wanting to hit the replay button on Matt's song "twentysixx" Wow, this song is neat, I can hear a little bit of this and that, and then some of that in it... all the way around I wanted to hit the replay button for sure.. All the best to you guys, you Rock in such a Cool Way! :)

Okay Last but not least on my mind here... Hmmm I may be coming from way out in Left Field with this Wondering I have, but here goes anyway... Ummm Erin ~ Gerry ~ Dewey ~~ regarding the release of the Sydney DVD here in the States.... Is there Anything that We the Fans Can Do to Help this come to be a Reality Release soon... I was just thinking that if there is any Distributors that we could email our Desire to have this DVD available here in the States, would get the Ball rolling on this any... Please don't take me the wrong way here, I am not saying that you all aren't doing all it takes to get this done... I am just saying that if there is any way we the fans can help with this, just let us Know Okay???? ~~ Thanks a Bunch for everything! :)

Okay ~~ gotta get now, take care all and enjoy your day! See ya, Nancy :)

~~~~I need a guiding light
To shine on my darkest days
I was young, and time was on my side
But like a fool I let it slip away
And now those days are gone

And I am lost
Living inside myself
Living inside this shell
Living outside your love
I am lost
Somewhere inside my own dreams
Afraid of what life really means
Living without your love

In my life
I've felt so self-assured
But oh how all the seasons change
And now I'm not that strong

'cause I am lost
Living inside myself
Living inside this hell
Living outside your love
I am lost
Somewhere inside my own dreams
Afraid of what life really means
Living without your love ~~~ Sing it for me Gino Vannelli :)

Message: 35816 Posted: Thu Sep 30 06:24:16 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: thanks for the help

That's wonderful news -- so great of Erin to offer backstage passes! I hope you all have a great time.

-- Madolyn

Message: 35815 Posted: Thu Sep 30 06:21:33 2004 By: red oak
Subject: This Day in Rock

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 30, 2004

62 years ago - Dewey Martin, drummer for Buffalo Springfield, is born. (1942)

56 years ago - Mark Bolan, vocalist for T-Rex, is born. He died in 1977. (1948)

43 years ago - Bob Dylan plays harmonica on three cuts recorded for his friend Caroline Hester's first Columbia album. The session is produced by John Hammond and he is so impressed that he promptly signs Dylan to a deal. Now that Dylan is a part of Columbia records, Hammond arranges for a solo recording session in October. (1961)

41 years ago - New York promoter Sid Bernstein contacts Brian Epstein, manager of The Beatles, to bring the group to the U.S. Epstein was skeptical because the group didn't have a hit in the States yet. (1963)

39 years ago - Donovan makes his U.S. television debut, appearing on "Shingdig!" Also appearing on the show are The Hollies, The Turtles and the Dave Clark Five. (1965)

37 years ago - On TV's "David Frost Show," John Lennon and Paul McCartney espouse the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's doctrines of transcendental meditation. (1967)

37 years ago - Van Morrison's "Brown-Eyed Girl" peaks at #10 on the singles chart. (1967)

35 years ago - David Crosby's girlfriend Christine Gail Hinton is killed in a head-on auto accident north of San Francisco, the same day the "Crosby, Stills & Nash" album goes gold. (1969)

33 years ago - Yes kicks off their first tour with new keyboardist Rick Wakeman in England. (1971)

32 years ago - Columbia Records, which inked pricey contracts with several artists in '72, announces it's closing down its four Hollywood studios. That's unemplyoment for 28 engineers and staff members. (1972)

30 years ago - A clash occurs between Lynyrd Skynyrd roadies and a sound technician during a Skynyrd/Blue Oyster Cult concert at the Louisville Convention Center. The Skynyrd crew say Jay Sloatman of Tycobrahe Sound deliberately turned off the sound during the band's set and then attacked them when he was asked to leave. No arrests were made. (1977)

27 years ago - Foghat plays a benefit concert and New York City's Palladium to fund the purchase and preservation of rare blues records by the Rodgers and Hammerstein Archives of Recorded Sound of the New York Public Library at Lincoln Center. (1977)

27 years ago - Ringo Starr releases his "Ringo The Fourth" album. (1977)

26 years ago - Aerosmith's cover of The Beatles' "Come Together" peaks at #23 on the chart. (1978)

17 years ago - Roy Orbison records the "A Black And White Night Live" album at the Coconut Grove in Los Angeles with Bruce Springsteen, Bonnie Raitt, Tom Waits and Elvis Costello. (1987)

16 years ago - John Lennon receives a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. (1988)

15 years ago - Neil Young performs "Rockin' In The Free World" on "Saturday Night Live." (1989)

15 years ago - Aerosmith's "Pump" LP enters the chart. The album contains the hits, "Love In An Elevator," "Janie's Got A Gun" and "What It Takes." (1989)

15 years ago - The Rolling Stones shoot their "Rock And A Hard Place" video at the Foxboro-Sullivan Stadium outside of Boston. (1989)

11 years ago - B-52's singer Kate Pierson is arrested while staging a sit-in in the New York offices of Vogue Magazine. She was protesting the magazine's use of animal fur clothing and ads that featured animal furs. (1993)

11 years ago - George Harrison and David Crosby make guest appearances on "The Simpsons." (1993)

10 years ago - R.E.M. singer Michael Stipe signs a movie development deal with New Line Cinema. (1994)

7 years ago - The Rolling Stones release their "Bridges To Babylon" LP. (1997)


Foghat - Slow Ride

Slowride, take it easy

I'm in the mood
The rhythm is right
Move to the music
We can roll all night

Oooh Slowride

Slowride, take it easy

Slow down, go down, got to get your lovin' one more time
Hold me, roll me, slow ridin' woman you're so fine


I'm in the mood
The rhythm is right
Move to the music
We can roll all night


Slowride, take it easy

Slow down, go down, got to get your lovin' one more time

Slowride, easy, slowride, sleazy

Slow down, go down, got to get your lovin' one more time
Hold me, roll me, slow ridin' woman you're so fine

Slowride, take it easy

Slow down, go down, slow down, go down

Come on baby
Take a slowride on me
Come on baby
Take a slowride

Feels so good, Feels good, Come on baby
Feels good, Feel allright

You know the rhythm is right
We gotta rock all night

Whoa, rock all night

Woo! Woo!

Your flamin' heart

Woo! Woo! Woo!



Face Lift

A woman decides to have a facelift for her birthday. She spends $5000 and feels pretty good about the results. On her way home, she stops at a news stand to buy a newspaper. Before leaving she says to the clerk, "I hope you don't mind my asking, but how old do you think I am?"

"About 32," is the reply.

"I'm exactly 47," the woman says happily.

A little while later she goes into McDonald's and asks the counter girl the very same question.

She replies, "I guess about 29."

"Nope, I'm 47."

Now, she's feeling really good about herself. She stops in a drug store on her way down the street. She goes up to the counter to get some mints and asks the clerk this burning question.

The clerk responds, "Oh, I'd say 30."

Again she ! proudly responds, "I am 47, but, thank you."

While waiting for the bus to go home, she asks an old man the same question.

He replies, "Lady, I'm 78 and my eye sight is going. Although, when I was young, there was a sure way to tell how old a woman was. It sounds very forward, but it requires you to let me put my hands under your bra. Then I can tell you exactly how old you are."

They wait in silence on the empty street until curiosity gets the best of her. She finally blurts out, "What the heck, go ahead."

He slips both of his hands under her blouse and under her bra and begins to feel around very slowly and carefully.

After a couple of minutes of this, she says: "Okay, okay ..... how old am I?"

He completes one last squeeze of her breasts, removes his hands, and says, "Madam, you are 47."

Stunned and amazed, the woman says, "That was incredible, how could you tell?"

The old man replies, "Promise you won't get mad?"

"No", she says.

He replies, "I was behind you in line at McDonald's."


Time to go to McDonald's and test this strategy out.

TGIAF everyone.....

Red Oak

Message: 35814 Posted: Wed Sep 29 20:18:42 2004 By: craig
Subject: thanks for the help

To all the wonderful America fans.Thank you all so much for your responses and email especially Erin their manager. She was kind enough to take time from her busy schedule to email me back and to give our parents back stage passes before the show. I asked if it would be ok for my dad to take a picture with the group she has not replied as of yet but given all the wonderful responses it sounds like it won't be a problem. they will be going to the show in nj ( belive I posted the wrong show) but if pictures sre taken I will be sure to post them for all of you GREAT fans. my brothers and sisters as well as myself will not be at the show my the look on my dads face will be priceless, and yes he is a wonderful father husband and friend

Message: 35813 Posted: Wed Sep 29 15:53:40 2004 By: Julie
Subject: Brichmere

49.30 Hours till Showtime #1 on October 1st.

Message: 35812 Posted: Wed Sep 29 15:25:24 2004 By: Nina
Subject: Re: I need your help

Also, Craig, I believe that Dewey, Gerry, and Erin check in on our chat folder from time to it's possible they already know you're trying to get your dad to meet them.( By the way, he sounds like a wonderful guy!) When you go to the signing after the show, try to give them a clue as to who you are, and that your dad who introduced you to their music is there with you and it will probably jog their memory. I'll bet you a dollar to donuts you'll be able to have a picture taken with them! They are great guys and very gracious to their fans! Good luck!

To Mo and NancyM and others: Is it time for the Birchmere show already?!? Have a great time, you lucky girls! Color me envious!

Message: 35811 Posted: Wed Sep 29 14:31:16 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: I need your help

Craig, my suggestion would be to stay for the signing afterwards. Gerry and Dewey take time to visit with everyone who waits to have something signed, even if it's only a minute or two. They might even let you take a picture if you ask.

Message: 35810 Posted: Wed Sep 29 13:38:07 2004 By: craig
Subject: I need your help

myself along with my brothers and sisters purchased tickets for the America concert on Oct 24th. I was just told that there will not be a met and gret at this concert. There will be a signing afterwards. My dad is very sick and is a huge fan ( he converted us as fans as well by playing their songs on the guitar everyday smile )I emailed erin edwards to request a possible meeting or picture taken but did not recieve a reply I understand she is probaly very busy and gets alot of these requests. Does anyone have a suggestion that would help me out. It would mean so much to my dad. Thanking you in advance for your help

Message: 35809 Posted: Wed Sep 29 06:19:21 2004 By: red oak
Subject: This Day in Rock

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 29, 2004

69 years ago - Rock pianist Jerry Lee Lewis is born. (1935)

56 years ago - Mark Farner, guitarist and vocalist for Grank Funk Railroad, is born. (1948)

48 years ago - So far, RCA Victor has received over 856,327 advance orders for Elvis Presley's "Love Me Tender." (1956)

46 years ago - The Big Bopper's "Chantilly Lace" enters the pop chart at #27 and the Moonglows' "Ten Commandments of Love," enters the pop charts at #41. (1958)

43 years ago - New York Times music critic Robert Shelton sees Bob Dylan open at Gerde's Folk City. His review describes Dylan as "a cross between a choir boy and a beatnik" and "bursting at the seams with talent." It's Dylans first press notice. (1961)

41 years ago - The Everly Brothers leave for a tour of the British Isles. On the bill are Bo Diddley, the Rolling Stones and as of October 5, Little Richard. (1963)

41 years ago - The Rolling Stones open their first English tour with The Everly Brothers and Bo Diddley at the New Victoria in London. (1963)

37 years ago - Gladys Knight & the Pips' "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" is released on Motown's Soul label. The song reaches Number Two on the pop chart and Number One on the R&B. (1967)

37 years ago - Mickey Hart joins the Grateful Dead. (1967)

32 years ago - Cat Stevens opens his new tour before a sold out crowd of 6,500 at the Shrine Auditorium in L-A. He is backed by an eleven piece orchestra for the 31-date tour. (1972)

31 years ago - Grand Funk's "We're An American Band" hits #1 on the singles chart. (1973)

29 years ago - Jackie Wilson falls into a coma from which he will never recover. (1975)

28 years ago - Jerry Lee Lewis, attempting to shoot a soda bottle somewhere in the distance with a .357 magnum, hits his bass player, Norman Owens twice in the chest. Lewis is charged with shooting a firearm within the city limits. (1976)

27 years ago - James Brown's band, complaining that the Hardest-Working Man in Show Business has been underpaying them, walk out on him in Hallendale, Florida. (1977)

25 years ago - Cheap Trick's "Ain't That A Shame" peaks at #35 on the singles chart, while Robert Palmer's "Bad Case Of Loving You" peaks at #14, Nick Lowe's "Cruel To Be Kind" peaks at #12 and Dave Edmunds' "Girls Talk" peaks at #65. (1979)

24 years ago - In an interview with Newsweek magazine, John Lennon gives details about the soon-to-be released album he's making with Yoko Ono, "Double Fantasy." (1980)

20 years ago - The Cars' "Drive" peaks at #3 on the pop singles chart. (1984)

15 years ago - While taking a motorcycle trip from L.A. to the Grand Canyon, Bruce Springsteen stops in a small saloon on Prescott, Arizona and jams with the house band, The Mile High Band. Bruce and the band plays "Don't Be Cruel," "I'm On Fire," "Route 66" and others. One of the barmaids Brenda Techanec was talking about her problems paying her hospital bills -- Springsteen overhears her and a week later she gets a check for $100,000. (1989)


Grand Funk Railroad - I'm Your Captain

listen to me,
and return me, my ship.
I'm your captain, I'm your captain,
though I'm feeling mighty sick.
I've been lost now,
days uncounted,
and it's months since,
I've seen home.
Can you hear me, can you hear me,
or am I all alone?
If you return me,
to my home port,
I will kiss you,
mother earth.
Take me back now, take me back now,
to the port, of my birth.
Am I in my cabin dreaming,
or are you really scheming,
to take my ship away from me.
You'd better think about it,
I just can't live without it,
so please don't take my ship from me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can feel the hand,
of a stranger,
and it tightening,
around my throat.
Heaven help me, heaven help me,
take this stranger, from my boat.
I'm your captain, I'm your captain,
though I'm feeling mighty sick.
Everybody, listen to me,
and return me, my ship,
I'm your captain, yeah yeah yeah yeah
I'm your captain, yeah yeah yeah yeah
I'm your captain, yeah yeah yeah yeah
I'm your captain, yeah yeah yeah yeah

I'm getting closer to my home.
I'm getting closer to my home.


I've sure gotten old. I've had 2 By-pass surgeries. A hip replacement, new knees. Fought prostate cancer, and diabetes. I'm half blind, can't hear anything quieter than a jet engine, take 40 different medications that make me dizzy, winded, and subject to blackouts. Have bouts with dementia. Have poor circulation, hardly feel my hands and feet anymore. Can't remember if I'm 85 or 92. Have lost all my friends.

But.....Thank God, I still have my Florida drivers license!


A 97 year old man goes into his doctor's office and says, "Doc, I want my sex drive lowered."

"Sir", replied the doctor, "You're 97. Don't you think your sex drive is all in your head?"

"You're damned right it is!" replied the old man. "That's why I want it lowered!"


Happy Hump Day all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Red Oak

Message: 35808 Posted: Wed Sep 29 06:02:23 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Gino Vannelli

I am a big fan of Gino Vannelli, but I only like his pre-"Brother to Brother" stuff -- basically everything before 1978. His early work was very jazzy bordering a bit on art rock. I'm not familiar with his more recent work, but I have a feeling I wouldn't like it.

-- Madolyn

Message: 35807 Posted: Wed Sep 29 03:47:01 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: "My Name's Lyle"

Hi Jenna, sorry I thought you would have known about Lyle's accident. Here's an abbreviated transcript from Daily Telegraph, posted 29 March, 2002 (and I thought it was only 12 months ago!!!!)


"Country singer Lyle Lovett was trampled by a bull and hospitalised with a broken leg.
Lovett had undergone surgery on his right leg. Memorial Hermann Hospital spokesperson said, "He was in good condition on arrival".
Lovett was injured on his uncle's farm in Klein, near Houston. A bull flipped Lovett's uncle, Calvin Klein, 67 old, and Lovett was trampled while trying to help him. Klein was treated and released at Tomball."

A follow-up story told about his ex, Julia Roberts flying down when she heard the news and that he was recovering.

Glad he's back on deck. Love his song, "She's No Lady (She's My Wife)".

Margaret, forgot to mention the price for that "Harbor" CD - $49. When I first ordered "All Things Are Possible" CD off Amazon, they wanted $US 41.95. I said OK but cancelled the order after waiting about 3 months with no results. About 6 weeks ago, I re-ordered the CD (now $US 15.95) together with 3 of Dan's other CDs, still waiting.

I was listening to the radio the other day when I heard a song for the 1st time, I thought the singer just had an amazing voice. When I did a search with Amazon, it showed that he's been going since 1970s and has about a million CDs out including one called "Brother To Brother" -the song is called, "I Just Wanna Stop", artist - Gino VANNELLI. I haven't heard of him before. I think he's Canadian. Is he known in your part of the world? I have ordered his "Ultimate Collection" CD after listening to some of the music samplers. Thanks.


Message: 35806 Posted: Tue Sep 28 19:26:33 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: This Saturday...

4 days till Saturday...hmmm...what's so special about Saturday...let me I off workshop to go to...can't seem to's coming to me...I know...!

AMERICA AT THE BIRCHMERE!! Can't wait, can't wait, can't wait...

Message: 35805 Posted: Tue Sep 28 19:08:53 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: O.T. Brian Wilson's "Smile"

That is a very intresting article...sounds like something good to get a hold of in the future. Thanks !
Mark M

Message: 35804 Posted: Tue Sep 28 13:20:13 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: New gigs for 2005

See, Nancio, the sources down home were right. America at Winterfest at the Springs in February...stop jumpin' up and down, now, girl. It isn't ladylike!!

Message: 35803 Posted: Tue Sep 28 13:12:25 2004 By: Anita
Subject: New gigs for 2005

Erin has uploaded some new gigs for 2005:

Message: 35802 Posted: Tue Sep 28 08:37:27 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: O.T. Brian Wilson's "Smile"


It's great that you will get to see him perform this rare album LIVE.:o)Please let us know on the chatfolder how the show turns out.


Message: 35801 Posted: Tue Sep 28 08:21:50 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: O.T. Brian Wilson's "Smile"

Hi Sergio:

Thanks for sharing this article. Now I'm even more excited about seeing Brian Wilson's show here in a couple of weeks!

Message: 35800 Posted: Tue Sep 28 08:13:49 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: O.T. Brian Wilson's "Smile"

Below is an article from the Boston Herald announcing the release of Brian Wilson's long ago but never released album "Smile". Since there are a lot of Beach Boys fans on this folder I'd thought I share it as follows:

Toothsome 'Smile' was worth the long wait
By Larry Katz
Tuesday, September 28, 2004

Pop's ``Unfinished Symphony'' is unfinished no longer.

``Smile'' - the most famous unreleased album in history - arrives in stores today, 37 years after Beach Boy Brian Wilson abandoned what was intended to be his greatest, most mind-blowing work.

``My wife (Melinda) and my managers got together with me about eight months ago,'' explains Wilson, who performs the complete ``Smile'' live Oct. 14 at the Orpheum. ``We had lunch and they were saying, `Brian, we think the world is finally ready for `Smile.' It's the right time to start presenting it to people.'

``So we learned it and I taught my band the whole thing,'' Wilson continues from his Los Angeles home. ``We created a third movement. We patched up the first two movements melodically and lyrically. Then we took it to London, England, and played it live. We got standing ovations every night for six nights. After it went over so well in London we decided to record it.''

Wilson makes the completion of ``Smile'' sound simple and straightforward. It was anything but -as an in-depth Oct. 5 Showtime documentary, ``Beautiful Dreamer: Brian Wilson and the Story of Smile,'' will make clear to those uninitiated in the ``Smile'' mystique.

``Smile'' has been the stuff of legend since 1966 when Wilson first started working on an album intended to top the Beatles and certify him as a pop genius. Instead it turned into a disaster. The lack of support he received from the other members of the Beach Boys, coupled with his drug use, fueled the fragile Wilson's paranoia and insecurities and set him off on a downward spiral that lasted two decades.

``I'd have to say that (the other Beach Boys) didn't like (`Smile') at all,'' he says. ``They thought it was too advanced and that it wasn't appropriate music for the Beach Boys. The record company didn't have a good reaction either. And at the time we were taking some hard drugs. We were taking LSD, marijuana and amphetamines. It kind of goofed our minds up.''

The ``Smile'' sessions did yield ``Good Vibrations,'' a monster hit single that fulfilled the public's most exalted expectations of Wilson. But the increasingly distraught pop star dropped the project. A few ``Smile'' songs popped up on the ``Smile'' surrogate album ``Smiley Smile'' and elsewhere. ``Smile'' session tapes surfaced on bootlegs. A chunk of official ``Smile'' excerpts appeared on a 1993 Beach Boys boxed set. But the complete ``Smile'' only existed as a kind of mythical pop music Holy Grail.

Even after the famously stage-shy Wilson defied all expectations by launching himself as a touring artist in the late 1990s, he distanced himself from ``Smile.'' Members of his band learned to expect silence and dark looks from Wilson if they even mentioned the name of such ``Smile'' songs as ``Heroes and Villains'' - so they were shocked late last year when he announced his intentions to perform ``Smile'' in London in February.

Working with Darian Sahanaja, keyboardist in his band, Wilson began work on the new ``Smile'' by listening to the original session tapes.

``I swear to God,'' he says, ``I said to myself, `I can't remember actually doing this.' It was so heavy.''

When Wilson couldn't understand a particular word in one song, he called original ``Smile'' lyricist Van Dyke Parks for help. Parks ended up co-writing the third movement needed to complete the work Wilson once described as ``a teenage symphony to God.''

``Now I call `Smile' a happy teenage symphony to God,'' Wilson says laughing. ``Some of it was inspired by Gershwin. He influenced the horn lines in `Heroes and Villains.' And some of it was inspired by Bach.''

The new ``Smile'' makes impressive use of a symphonic palette of sounds - woodwinds, strings, banjos, whistles and more - and, of course, those heavenly Beach Boys harmonies. Some may miss the sound of the actual Beach Boys, but Wilson's voice, even at age 62, still exudes innocence and vulnerability. Parks' poetic lyrics can be obscure, but an expansive, part-humorous, part-tragic vision emerges, of an America that stretches from ``Roll Plymouth Rock'' all the way to ``In Blue Hawaii.''

If this isn't the original ``Smile,'' it's nevertheless quite wonderful, and far more than anyone might have expected at this point.

``Good things don't come overnight, that's what I say,'' Wilson says. ``It's quite a feeling of accomplishment and happiness to have created something so special.''

Did he ever think during those long years ``Smile'' lay dormant that he'd one day finish it?

``I never would have dreamed it,'' he answers. ``My `Smile' dream has finally been realized.

``I feel like the only place to go now is hard rock and roll. In January, after we finish this tour, I'm going to record a rock and roll album inspired by Phil Spector and Paul McCartney and guys like that.''

Can't wait to listen to it,


Message: 35799 Posted: Tue Sep 28 06:18:17 2004 By: red oak
Subject: THis Day in Rock

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 28, 2004

66 years ago - Singer Ben E. King is born. (1938)

46 years ago - "To Know Him Is To Love him" by the Teddy Bears, composed and arranged by 18 year old Phil Spector is released on Dore Records. The title is taken from the inscription on Spector's father's tombstone. The song makes it up to Number One by the end of the year. (1958)

41 years ago - The legendary New York disc jockey Murray The K receives a copy of The Beatles' "She Loves You" and plays it on the radio. It is believed to be the first Beatles song ever played in the U.S. (1963)

41 years ago - Bob Dylan's second LP, and the first to feature mostly originals, "The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan," enters the LP chart. The disc contains the song "Blowin' In The Wind." (1963)

41 years ago - The Beach Boys' "Little Deuce Coupe" peaks at #15 on the singles chart. (1963)

36 years ago - The Beatles' "Hey Jude" hits #1 on the singles chart, a position it will hold for 9 weeks. At 7 minutes 11 seconds, it was the longest song ever to hit the Billboard Hot 100 chart, an honor it held until Richard Harris' "MacArthur Park" in 1972 clocked in at 7:20. (1968)

36 years ago - The Who's "Magic Bus" peaks at #25 on the singles chart. (1968)

36 years ago - The Moody Blues' "Days Of Future Past" enters the LP chart. (1968)

36 years ago - Manager Albert Grossman announces Janis Joplin will be depart from Big Brother and the Holding Company in November after fulfilling current obligations. Joplin says she and the band "weren't growing together anymore." (1968)

34 years ago - Eric Burdon and War's "Spill the Wine" goes gold. (1970)

33 years ago - The New York Times reports on the growing interest among white youths in black gospel music. (1971)

32 years ago - David Bowie sells out his first U.S. show at New York's Carnegie Hall. (1972)

31 years ago - The Rolling Stones appear on U.S. television for their first time since 1967. (1973)

29 years ago - 40,000 fans watch Jefferson Starship and Jerry Garcia and Friends for free in San Francisco's Lindley Park. The Dead make their first public appearance in over a year. (1975)

28 years ago - A&M Records sues George Harrison after he fails to deliver his LP, "33 1/3" on time. At the time, Harrison was suffering from hepatitis. (1976)

25 years ago - Jimmy McCulloch, guitarist with Thunderclap Newman, Stone the Crows and Paul McCartney's Wings, is found dead in London of undetermined causes. He was 26. (1979)

19 years ago - Phil Collins' "Don't Lose My Number" peaks at #4 on the singles chart. (1985)

15 years ago - Jimmy Buffett publishes a book of short stories entitled, "Tales From Margaritaville." (1989)

13 years ago - Dire Straits' "On Every Street" enters the LP chart. (1991)

13 years ago - R.E.M.'s "Shiny Happy People" peaks at #10 on the singles chart. (1991)


Mistress Of Mine - LRB
by Graham Goble

She's there like the heat
she dances like the fireflies
I'm torn like the wind
there's magic in her eyes
I'm a slave to her love
I'm fooled by her disguise
that mistress of mine
that mistress of mine

She turns like the tide
and takes me where I've never been
there's peace at her side
she's a lady and a gypsy queen
I'm caught by her spell
sometimes I wish I'd never seen
that mistress of mine
That mistress of mine

So I say to myself
it's no good being left in the cold
it's no fun to be out on the shelf
and so sad to be lonely when you're old
but I'll never give in
I accept her the way that she lives
but could I ever start again
if I cease to share the love that she gives?
that mistress of mine


Kentucky Farmer

A Kentucky farmer got in his pickup, drove several miles to a neighboring farm, and knocked on the farmhouse door. A young boy about 12 opened the door. "Is yer paw home?" the farmer asked. "No sir, he ain't," the boy replied. "He went into town." "Well, said the farmer, is yer maw here?" "No, sir, she ain't here neither. She went into town with paw." "How about your brother, Howard? ......... Is he here?" Nope! "He went with maw and paw." The farmer stood there for a few minutes, shifting from one foot to the other and mumbling to himself. "Is there anything I can do fer ya?" the boy asked politely. "I knows where all the tools is, if you need to borry one. Or I could take a message fer Paw." "Well," said the farmer uncomfortably, "I really wanted to talk to yer paw. It's about your brother Howard getting my daughter Pearly Mae, pregnant." The boy considered for a moment. "You'd have to talk to Paw about that," he finally conceded. "If it helps you any though, I know Paw charges $50 for the bull and $25 for the boar hog, but I really don't know how much he gets fer Howard.


And the beat goes on...........

Red Oak


Message: 35798 Posted: Mon Sep 27 20:45:26 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Christmas Medley MP3

Sounds great! Thanks Tracy and Steve!!!

Message: 35797 Posted: Mon Sep 27 20:15:15 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: I Figured It Out/ Bluey

Thanks Steve, I finally got the Media Player to work although I have a version 9.0 and not a 10 when I tried it on a different pc. Maybe I'm not so techno-challenged afterall? lol! What a great version or rendition of that song.

Bluey, hope Lyle Lovett makes his way to Australia eventually or someday soon. He has a huge 10 piece band and puts on a great two hour show. Interesting story... I hadn't heard that he got hurt or injured by a bull on his ranch, I can't even imagine what that was like? (pretty strong guy!) But he seemed to be in fine form a few months ago.


Message: 35796 Posted: Mon Sep 27 18:59:58 2004 By: red oak
Subject: Re: This Day in Rock

Thank you Tiger. Good name u have there, it was my High School's nickname(Red Oak Tigers). I try my best with the jokes as well as other content. Take care & tx for reading.

Red Oak

Message: 35795 Posted: Mon Sep 27 18:22:48 2004 By: tiger
Subject: Re: This Day in Rock

Red Oak, that was a great "grandma" joke!!

Message: 35794 Posted: Mon Sep 27 17:15:16 2004 By: TZ MAC
Subject: October Readers Digest

For the last year or so Readers Digest has had a feature in the back called the RD Challenge.

October's challenge has 7 questions to test one's knowledge of American culture.

Here's the 7 questions presented to test your knowledge:

Who painted American Gothic?
Which American Motors car is pictured in the challenge?
What year was the first Miss America chosen?
Who starred with Gene Kelly in An American in Paris?
How many red stripes are on the American flag?
What kind of race is America's cup?
The pop band America had a 1972 hit with which song?

a. Billy Don't Be a Hero
b. Alone Again Naturally
c. Seasons in the Sun
d. A Horse With No Name


Message: 35793 Posted: Mon Sep 27 15:58:46 2004 By: Margaret
Subject: Re: Margaret

Thanks Bluey. I think our (expensive!) copy was from Red Eye. The internet has made hard-to-get music more accessible and often less expensive.

Message: 35792 Posted: Mon Sep 27 12:11:21 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Christmas Medley MP3

Tracy Smith converted the 1982 Solid Gold Christmas Medley to MP3 (audio) format and I have uploaded it temporarily to the America Fans web site. Click here to download/listen to the song.

Message: 35791 Posted: Mon Sep 27 10:56:25 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: 1975 set list

If you go to the America Fans Archives and scroll down to the Concert Playlists section, you'll find 4 different concert set lists from 1975. That should give you a pretty good idea of what they played at the concert you went to.

Message: 35790 Posted: Mon Sep 27 06:48:17 2004 By: hekawi25
Subject: 1975 set list

I first saw America live in 1975...the "Hearts" album was out and "Daisy Jane" on the charts...Poco was the opening act. Anybody out there have a set list from that tour? Thanks

Message: 35789 Posted: Mon Sep 27 06:30:51 2004 By: red oak
Subject: Re: This Day in Rock

I forgot to post this also:

Here are the Top Fifteen Tunes in Chicago
on September 26, 1967:

The Letter-Box Tops
Ode To Billie Joe-Bobbie Gentry
Never My Love-Association
Come Back When You Grow Up-Bobby Vee
Reflections-Diana Ross & the Supremes
Brown Eyed Girl-Van Morrison
Funky Broadway-Wilson Pickett
Little Ole Man (Uptight-Everything's Alright)-Bill Cosby
Apples, Peaches, Pumpkin Pie-Jay & the Techniques
You Know What I Mean-Turtles
I Make A Fool Of Myself-Frankie Valli
It Could Be We're In Love-Cryan' Shames
I Had A Dream-Paul Revere & the Raiders
Gettin' Together-Tommy James & the Shondells
I Dig Rock And Roll Music-Peter, Paul & Mary

Message: 35788 Posted: Mon Sep 27 06:28:05 2004 By: red oak
Subject: This Day in Rock

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 27, 2004

61 years ago - Randy Bachman, guitarist and vocalist for the Guess Who and Bachman-Turner Overdrive, is born. (1943)

57 years ago - Singer Meatloaf is born. (1947)

40 years ago - California surf-rock band the Beach Boys make their first appearance on the Ed Sullivan Show singing "I Get Around." (1964)

35 years ago - Santana's self-titled debut album enters the LP chart. The double-platinum album contains the top-10 hit, "Evil Ways." (1969)

35 years ago - CCR's "Green River" peaks at #2 on the singles chart. (1969)

32 years ago - Rory Storme, the leader of one of Liverpool's earlier beat groups, takes his life in what is presumed to be a suicide pact with his mother. Rory Storme and the Hurricanes are best remembered as the group Ringo Starr departed in 1962 to play drums for the Beatles. (1972)

31 years ago - Rolling Stone reports that Carlos Santana, now a disciple of Sri Chinmoy, has a new name: Devadip, which means "The Lamp of the Light Supreme." The band's name will remain Santana. (1973)

25 years ago - Moments after beginning the tune, "Better Off Dead," Elton John collapses onstage at the Universal Amphitheatre. He's suffering from exhaustion brought on by the flu. After a ten minute intermission, John returns to finish a concert lasting nearly three hours. (1979)

25 years ago - Blondie release "Eat To The Beat." The LP contains the single "Dreaming." (1979)

25 years ago - The Police release their second album, "Regatta de Blanc." (1979)

24 years ago - Paul Simon's "Late in the Evening" peaks at #6 on the pop chart. (1980)

24 years ago - David Bowie's "Scary Monsters and Super Creeps" peaks at #12 on the LP chart. (1980)

18 years ago - The Beatles' "Twist and Shout" re-enters the pop singles chart after being heard in the films "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" and "Back To School." (1986)

18 years ago - "Walk This Way" by Run-D.M.C. and Aerosmith peaks at #4 on the singles chart. (1986)


You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet - Bachman-Turner Overdrive

I met a devil woman,
She took my heart away,
She said, I had it comin' to me,
But I wanted it that way.
I think that any love is good lovin', and
So I took what I could get mmh,
Oooh, oooh she looked at me with big brown eyes
And said:
You ain't seen nothin' yet,
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen nothin' yet,
Here's something that you never gonna forget,
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen nothin' yet.
And now I'm feelin' better,
'Cause I found out for sure.
She took me to her doctor
And he told me of a cure.
He said that any love is good love
So I took what I could get mmh,
Oooh, oooh she looked at me with big brown eyes
And said:
You ain't seen nothin' yet,
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen nothin' yet,
Here's something that you never gonna forget,
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen nothin' yet.
Any love is good love
So I took what I could get mmh,
Oooh, oooh she looked at me with big brown eyes
And said:
You ain't seen nothin' yet,
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen nothin' yet,
Here's something that you never gonna forget,
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen nothin' yet.


A man moves into a nudist colony.

He receives a letter from his grandmother asking him to send her a current photo of himself in his new location.
Too embarrassed to let her know that he lives in a nudist colony,
he cuts a photo in half but accidentally sends the bottom half of the photo.
He's really worried when he realizes that he sent the wrong half,
but then remembers how bad his grandmother's eyesight is,
and hopes she won't notice.

A few weeks later he receives a letter from his grandmother.
It says,
Thank you for the picture.
Change your hair style...
it makes your nose look short


Greetings all, have a gr8 week..........

Red Oak

Message: 35787 Posted: Mon Sep 27 04:16:37 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Do You Hear What I Hear?

Jenna, if you can't get Windows Media Player to work, then download the Elecard MPEG-2 player and that will work for sure. Another thing to try is to make sure you're running the latest version of Windows Media Player (version 10).

Message: 35786 Posted: Sun Sep 26 22:42:11 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: Do You Hear What I Hear?

Thanks Steve, but I seem to be having a few problems. I seem to have a Windows Media Player error that states "no combination of filters could be found to render the stream" So.... unfortunately, I don't hear what you hear. I'll keep working on it. Hard to believe it's time for Christmas already, I've seen holiday stores open for weeks now.


Message: 35785 Posted: Sun Sep 26 21:10:55 2004 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: I Figured It Out

I have XP & the latest version of Windows media player & it played fine. I had done a Media player upgrade some months ago from Microsoft so that seems to cover the issue. Thanks Steve & John Corbett. This is a fabulous example of the magic of GERRY & DEWEY, they put their heart & soul & then some - into every project.

Message: 35784 Posted: Sun Sep 26 18:00:28 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: I Figured It Out

I may have figured out an even better way. I found a web page that has an MPEG-2 codec installer that will just install the MPEG-2 codec without having to install a separate player. Then you can use Windows Media player to play your files. I tried it and it worked for me so you have a couple of choices. Here's the link:

Message: 35783 Posted: Sun Sep 26 17:18:06 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: I Figured It Out

Hi Steve: Works like a charm! As always, great work, thanks!

Message: 35782 Posted: Sun Sep 26 17:12:52 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: I Figured It Out

Anita and everyone else, I figured out how to make the MPG file play. First of all, I did a search on the Internet for CODECS and it took me to a wonderful page ( that tests different codecs on a given machine. It was there that I discovered that I couldn't play MPG2 files which the Windows 95 machines (Windows ME was a descendent of Win95) could play. So, I downloaded the Elecard MPG2 player and it was able to play the file. If any of you have an MPG2 codec already on your machine, you should be able to play the file. Otherwise, I have uploaded the Elecard player to the America Fans web site so you can download it and install it. Click here to download a ZIP file with the installer for the Elecard MPG2 player. If this works for everyone else, I'll have a whole bunch of other files to upload over the coming weeks! Let me know how it goes....

Message: 35781 Posted: Sun Sep 26 16:39:54 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Do You Hear What I Hear?

Anita, I completely forgot that I have tried uploading this and other MPG files before which nobody else could play. I used to be able to play it on my old Windows ME computer but now that I've upgraded to Windows XP, I can't play it anymore either. I get an error saying that it can't download the right codec. When I ran into this problem many months ago (here on the Chat Folder), I tried a number of things to fix it and I never could so I gave up. I'm very sorry about that. So, the file is out there for anyone and everyone to download and if anyone can figure out how to get it to play, please let us know!

Message: 35780 Posted: Sun Sep 26 14:47:44 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Do You Hear What I Hear?

Steve: I tried downloading and playing the file but I get the message: "Windows Media Player cannot play the file. The file may be formatted with an unsupported codec, or the Internet security setting on your computer is set too high. Lower your browser's security setting, and then try again." I tried lowering the internet security settings, but no luck there. Any suggestions?

Message: 35779 Posted: Sun Sep 26 14:42:43 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Hollywood Set List

Jason Colannino sent me the following set list from the concert at The Ballroom in the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel and Casino (Hollywood, FL).

Ventura Highway
You Can Do Magic
Don't Cross the River
Daisy Jane
The Last Unicorn
I Need You
Nowhere Man
Baby Its Up To You
Tin Man
The Border
Woman Tonight
Only In Your Heart
California Dreamin'
Lonely People
Never Be Lonely
Sister Golden Hair

California Revisited
A Horse With No Name

Message: 35778 Posted: Sun Sep 26 13:47:16 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Margaret

Margaret, Just an after-thought about America CDs. I don't know if you are aware that the "1982 King Biscuit Flower Hour Presents - America In Concert" CD has been released In Australia. Jason got me the US CD when he was in New York. About 12 months ago, looking at CDs in a BigW store, there it was, same title and playlist but a different jacket. Contains the standard tracks with "Inspector Mills", "Love On The Vine", "California Dreamin'", "Old Man Took" and "Here". I haven't seen it anywhere else.


Message: 35777 Posted: Sun Sep 26 13:38:03 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: America

Hey Steve, I'd love to tune into a show like that<<DanC.

Message: 35776 Posted: Sun Sep 26 13:01:01 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Re: New CD

Hi Margaret, about 6 years ago I rang Red Eye about the America CDs and Stephen Bishop's Greatest Hits. They told me that the only America CD they had in stock was "Harbor" and couldn't give me anything definite about the four CDs we mentioned. I can't remember the exact conversation but I ended up ordering the Stephen Bishop "On And On - Greatest Hits" CD which I picked up sometime later. Of course at that time I didn't have this computer. I have placed a few orders with Amazon and have received the items reasonably quickly although the Dan Peek CDs are really taking a long time and still haven't been shipped. Thank you very much Margaret, I appreciate your interest.


Message: 35775 Posted: Sun Sep 26 11:58:05 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Do You Hear What I Hear?

I have an MPG version of America performing this song which I have uploaded to the America Fans web site. It will be available for the next week or so to download by clicking on this link: Many thanks to John Corbett for giving me a copy of this video several years ago. By the way, it's a 40 megabyte file so it will take a while to download (especially if you have a slow connection).

Message: 35774 Posted: Sun Sep 26 08:08:55 2004 By: red oak
Subject: This Day in Rock

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 26, 2004

59 years ago - Bryan Ferry, vocalist for Roxy Music, is born. (1945)

48 years ago - Fats Domino's "Blueberry Hill" enters the pop charts where it will top out at Number Four. (1956)

48 years ago - It's Elvis Presley Day in his hometown of of Tupelo, Mississippi. (1956)

43 years ago - Bob Dylan starts a two week stay as the opening act for the Greenbriar Boys at Gerde's Folk City in New York's Greenwich Village. (1961)

40 years ago - The Kinks release "You Really Got Me." (1964)

40 years ago - Roy Orbison's "Oh, Pretty Woman" hits #1 on the singles chart. (1964)

40 years ago - The Shangri-Las' "Remember (Walking In The Sand)" peaks at #5 on the singles chart. (1964)

39 years ago - Queen Elizabeth decorates The Beatles with the Order of the British Empire. (1965)

36 years ago - Rolling Stones guitarist Brian Jones is fined $150 after a judge finds him guilty of marijuana possession. (1968)

35 years ago - The Beatles release their 13th album in the U.K., "Abbey Road." It's released a week later in the U.S. and is the last album they make together as a group. Within a month the album begins an eleven week run in the Number One spot. (1969)

35 years ago - San Francisco's Fillmore West opens. (1969)

34 years ago - Tamla-Motown Records reveals the Jackson 5 have sold 10 million singles world wide in nine months ("I Want You Back", "ABC" & "The Love You Save") an unsurpassed record for a while. (1970)

34 years ago - Free's "Fire and Water" enters the LP chart. It contains the song, "All Right Now." (1970)

31 years ago - The Dutch instrumental group Focus receive a gold record for "Focus 3." It comes on the heels of their lone hit, "Hocus Pocus." (1973)

30 years ago - John Lennon releases what will be his last album of new material for nearly six years. "Walls and Bridges" climbs up to Number One. (1974)

29 years ago - "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" opens in theatres. (1975)

29 years ago - The Allman Brothers Band's "Win, Lose Or Draw" enters the album chart. (1975)

25 years ago - The Clash release their first U.S. single, a remake of The Bobby Fuller Four's "I Fought The Law." (1979)

23 years ago - Prince finally finds as much success with audiences as with critics, as the title cut of his new album "Controversy" eneters the soul chart. It peaks at #3. Meanwhile on the pop charts, the single and album hit #70 and #21 respectively. (1981)

23 years ago - The Kinks' "Give The People What They Want" enters the LP chart. (1981)

23 years ago - The Go-Go's "Beauty and the Beat" enters the LP chart. The double platinum album hit #1 for 6 weeks and contains the hits "Our Lips Are Sealed" and "We Got The Beat." (1981)

23 years ago - Hall & Oates' "Private Eyes" LP enters the chart. The platinum album contains two #1 hits: "Private Eyes" and "I Can't Go For That." (1981)

18 years ago - Mick Jagger's long-form home video "Running Out Of Luck" is finally released by CBS-Fox Video after over a one year delay. (1986)

17 years ago - The Grateful Dead's "Touch Of Grey" peaks at #9 on the singles chart, thus becoming their biggest chart hit ever. (1987)

17 years ago - The Cars' "Door To Door" enters the LP chart. (1987)

16 years ago - Keith Richards releases his first solo album, "Talk Is Cheap." (1988)

13 years ago - Southside Johnny films the "It's Been A Long Time" video at The Stone Pony in Asbury Park, New Jersey with the help of Bruce Springsteen and Little Steven Van Zandt. Following the recording of the video, Jon Bon Jovi joins the band and an hour long jam ensues. (1991)

12 years ago - Patty Smyth and Don Henley's duet, "Sometimes Love Just Ain't Enough" peaks at #2 on the pop singles chart. (1992)


All Right Now - Free
( A. Fraser / P. Rodgers)

There she stood in the street
Smiling from her head to her feet
I said hey what is this
Now maybe baby
Maybe you're in need for a kiss
I said slow don't talk so fast
Don't you think that love can last
She said love Lord above
Now you're trying to trick me in love

All right now
Baby it's all right now
All right now
Baby it's all right now

I took her home to my place
Watching every move on her face
She said look what's your game
Are you trying to put me in shame
I said slow don't talk so fast
Don't you think that love can last
She said love Lord above
Now you're tryin' to trick me in love

All right now
Baby it's all right now
All right now
Baby it's all right now

All right now
Baby it's all right now
All right now
Baby it's all right now


Super Sexy Debra says there's four secrets for a Happy

1. It's important to find a woman that cooks and cleans.

2. It's important to find a woman that makes good money.

3. It's important to find a woman that loves to have sex.

4. Most importantly, it's vital these three women never meet.


Enjoy ur Sunday all...............

Red Oak

Message: 35773 Posted: Sun Sep 26 08:07:39 2004 By: Erin Edwards
Subject: Orlando and Clearwater

Hey everyone. Due to Hurricane Jeanne, the America shows scheduled for Orlando, FL (9/25) and Clearwater, FL (9/26) have been postponed. They have been rescheduled for:

Clearwater, FL - Thursday, October 14, 2004
Orlando, FL - Saturday, October 16, 2004

If you have tickets for the postponed shows, please contact the venues about the rescheduled shows.


-Erin Edwards

Message: 35772 Posted: Sun Sep 26 07:45:31 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: America

Good point regarding the "Live by Request" show. I saw the Fogerty show the other night,and thought how "safe" it all seemed from a request standpoint. All the usual suspects were played. I mean...How many times can a guy hear "Proud Mary" or "Lodi"? I thought the intelligence of the audience and the requests submitted could have been more diverse. Just once I'd like to hear somebody request "Ramble Tamble"(CCR) or something like "Rock & roll girls" (solo by Fogerty.) It would gall me to see America on this type of show,and some listener call in and say they are just "dying" to hear "Sister Goldenhair" or "Horse"--what,like you've never heard that in your life before? Be diverse! So,I take these shows with a grain of salt. I have the Chicago DVD of the same show,and everything played there was about what I would have expected. But I guess it would also be unrealistic to think that the bands can just reach into their catalogs and play some obscure LP cut. Who'd want to tune into that? :)

Message: 35771 Posted: Sun Sep 26 07:36:24 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Listening Party - Hourglass

Tonight's listening party will feature Hourglass, 10PM EDT, 7PM PDT. Please join us!

Message: 35770 Posted: Sun Sep 26 06:54:10 2004 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: America

RE: Johnny's message, sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but all the "Live By Request" shows are fakes. I know that the viewers really want to believe that someone calls up, requests a song, and the artist just happens to have that number rehearsed and ready. friend worked on the show, and he told me the whole thing is a fake- entirely scripted and NOT spontaneous. BUT don't we all wish that the guys would throw a REAL request show for us, where we yell out REAL requests and they play them? Yeah, even if they could only do a few lines of a song, we'd be happy, right? =) Hey Steve thanks for that link to the "Ventura Highway clip. Very entertaining!

Message: 35769 Posted: Sun Sep 26 05:18:05 2004 By: Margaret
Subject: Re: New CD

Bluey, you said of Alibi, Silent Letter, Your Move and Perspective "actually you still can't get them here". We purchased our copies of these CDs from Red Eye in Sydney soon after their release.

Message: 35768 Posted: Sat Sep 25 22:21:54 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Re: Do You Hear What I Hear?

Jimnak, Last America Fan:

I fairly positive that the song was sung on the 1982 Solid Gold 2 Hour Christmas Special hosted by Rex Smith and Marilyn McCoo. I saw the special on TV and Rex Smith introduced Dewey and Gerry as "the supergroup, America". Dewey and Gerry were sitting on stools, playing acoustic guitars. I'm sure they sang two songs.

Kevin S: Kev, I'm sure that Burton Cummings sang a couple of tracks on the "California Dreaming" soundtrack which featured America singing the title song.


Message: 35767 Posted: Sat Sep 25 21:33:42 2004 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Do You Hear What I Hear?

wasn't that Solid Gold Xmas show ? GERRY & DEWEY alone with acoustic guitars, 2 songs.

Message: 35766 Posted: Sat Sep 25 20:58:41 2004 By: Last America Fan
Subject: Do You Hear What I Hear?

Back around the day when You Can Do Magic was on the charts (1982?) I THOUGHT I saw America on some Christmas show/special on TV performing Do You Hear What I Hear. I've always thought it was the absolute best rendition I've ever heard of it. I was very disappointed when it didn't end up on their Christmas album a couple of years ago. Anyone know anything about it and/or how to get a copy of it?

Message: 35765 Posted: Sat Sep 25 20:48:39 2004 By: KevinS.
Subject: Hollywood, FL

Hollywood, Florida, is the first place I ever saw America. In concert while I was on spring break in high school. Burton Cummings opened for them. Dan Peek was still in the group. Harbor had just been released. The Cincinnati Reds didn't suck. I have fond memories of Hollywood, Florida.


Message: 35764 Posted: Sat Sep 25 20:40:58 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: VFTHW: Hollywood

Gerry, the view is just gorgeous!

Message: 35763 Posted: Sat Sep 25 19:40:30 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: VFTHW - Hollywood

That new Hard Rock Hotel looks beautiful! Hope you guys got out before the storm came.

Message: 35762 Posted: Sat Sep 25 18:29:46 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - Hollywood

Click here to see the view from Gerry's hotel window in Hollywood, FL.

Message: 35761 Posted: Sat Sep 25 14:38:47 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Re Philip/Vanessa and Lyle Lovett

Hi Madolyn...Got to agree with you, when I heard it I thought that it had a Gerry Rafferty sound like "Stuck In The Middle With You" but I really enjoyed that version. Thanks SteveL and JoeB.

G'Day Thommo, I think I've got about 24 CDs and a few have similar playlists - "America In Concert" "America Live" "King Biscuit America Live" (my son got me that one when he was working in New York) then of course, the "Best Of" sets but I suppose if they keep putting new CDs onto shelves, they might get a bunch of new fans. Actually I think it's a pity the CD wasn't the soundtrack to the DVD. Anyway I hope CD No. 25 is a set of new songs. Thanks mate.

Jenna, Lyle Lovett, wish he would play Down-Under. I have three of his CDs, "L>L> and His Large Band", "Pontiac" and "Anthology Vol 1"
Just love this piece from his song -"Give Back My Heart"-

"But the road was long and home was far
So I stopped off at this little cowboy-looking bar
I walked on through the door and she just smiled
In a long pony tail and pretty white dress
She said "Hi bull riders do it best"
I said "Oh my God what's your name
My name's Lyle"

Love to see a live concert.. As you know he got pretty well busted up by a bull on his ranch about 12 months ago, good to see that he's back on the road. In the Oz story they called him a hero because he apparently saved his uncle's life by getting between him and the bull. A real-life hero. The story also stated that his ex, Julia Roberts rushed down to Texas when she heard the news!

Regards, Bluey

Message: 35760 Posted: Sat Sep 25 09:09:08 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: Philip and Vanessa

What a funny rendition of the song! It was like "Up Up and Away [In My Beautiful Balloon]" meets "Moonlight" (was that by "Starbuck"??). The guy's voice at times sounded a bit like Gerry Rafferty's (of Steeler's Wheel fame), but not as good. Vanessa's background vocals sounded a little Linda McCartney-ish.

-- Madolyn

Message: 35759 Posted: Sat Sep 25 07:28:05 2004 By: red oak
Subject: This Day in Rock

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 25, 2004

44 years ago - Sam Cooke's "Chain Gang" peaks at Number Two on both the R&B and pop charts at the same time. It's his biggest hit since "You Send Me." (1960)

40 years ago - Beatles manager Brian Epstein turns down a 3 1/2 million pound offer for the Beatles contract from a group of U.S. businessmen to buy out his management contract. (1964)

39 years ago - "The Beatles," a half hour Saturday morning cartoon show featuring genuine Beatles songs but not their real voices, premieres on ABC. The show runs through September 7, 1969. (1965)

39 years ago - Len Barry's "1-2-3" enters both the pop and R&B charts. The song peaks at Number Two on the pop chart and #11 on the R&B. (1965)

39 years ago - Barry McGuire's "Eve Of Destruction" hits #1 on the pop chart, while The Yardbirds' "Heart Full Of Soul" peaks at #9 and The Animals' "We Gotta Get Out Of This Place" peaks at #13. (1965)

37 years ago - The Beatles record "Fool On The Hill" at Abbey Road Studios in London. (1967)

35 years ago - John Lennon records "Cold Turkey" with a backing band that includes Eric Clapton, Klaus Voorman, Yoko Ono and Ringo Starr. (1969)

34 years ago - Ringo Starr releases his "Beaucoups of Blues" album. (1970)

33 years ago - Cat Stevens "Peace Train" is released. (1971)

31 years ago - Even though bassist Bill Wyman admits it's not his favorite album, the Rolling Stones' "Goats Head Soup" turns gold. The album makes it to Number One and contains the Number One single, "Angie." (1973)

29 years ago - Soul singer Jackie Wilson suffers a heart attack while performing at the Latin Casino in Cherry Hill, New Jersey. He suffers brain damage and lapses into a coma. Ironically, he was in the middle of singing one of his biggest hits, "Lonely Teardrops," and was two words into the line, " heart is crying" when he collapsed. He is 41 years old. (1975)

28 years ago - Wings play a benefit and raise $50,000 for the restoration of water-damaged art treasures in Venice's St. Marks Square. A reported 25,000 show-up and unknowingly set back the reclamation project from water when their combined weight loosens some paving stones and allows water to seep through into the Square. (1976)

28 years ago - Boston's debut album enters the album chart. It eventually climbs up to #3 and becomes the fastest-selling album debut album in history. The album contains "More Than a Feeling" which reaches #5 early next year. (1976)

28 years ago - Blue Oyster Cult's "Agents of Fortune" LP enters the chart. (1976)

25 years ago - The Eagles LP, "The Long Run" is released. (1979)

25 years ago - Joe Jackson releases his "I'm The Man" single. (1979)

24 years ago - Led Zeppelin drummer John "Bonzo" Bonham dies of asphyxiation on his own vomit after drinking forty measures of vodka on the eve of the band's U.S. tour. The group decides he cannot be replaced and disbands. John Bonham was 32. (1980)

23 years ago - The Rolling Stones play the first show of their U.S. tour at Philadelphia's JFK Stadium. The show opens up with "Under My Thumb." The tour is filmed by director Hal Ashby and later released in 1983 as the concert documentary "Lets Spend the Night Together." (1981)

22 years ago - Aerosmith returns to the charts for the first time since 1980's "Greatest Hits." The latest LP, "Rock in a Hard Place" is their first release of new material since lead guitarist Joe Perry departed in 1979. The album never makes it into the Top 20. (1982)

22 years ago - Don Henley's solo debut album, "I Can't Stand Still" enters the chart. The LP includes the hit "Dirty Laundry." (1982)

22 years ago - The Who's final album, "It's Hard" enters the chart. (1982)

22 years ago - Joan Jett and the Blackhearts' "Do You Wanna Touch Me (Oh Yeah)" peaks at #20 on the singles chart. (1982)

14 years ago - A street is named Little Richard Boulevard in the singer's hometown of Macon, Georgia. (1990)

11 years ago - John Mellencamp's "Human Wheels" enters the LP chart. (1993)


Heartache Tonight - The Eagles
from The Long Run album

Somebody's gonna hurt someone
before the night is through
Somebody's gonna come undone.
There's nothin' we can do.
Everybody wants to touch somebody
if it takes all night.
Everybody wants to take a little chance,
Make it come out right.

There's gonna be a heartache tonight,
a heartache tonight, I know.
There's gonna be a heartache tonight, I know.
Lord, I know.

Some people like to stay out late
Some folks can't hold out that long
But nobody wants to go home now.
there's too much goin' on.

This night is gonna last forever.
Last all, last all summer long.
Some time before the sun comes up
The radio is gonna play that song.
There's gonna be a heartache tonight,
A heartache tonight, I know.
There's gonna be a heartache tonight,
A heartache tonight, I know.
Lord I know.

There's gonna be a heartache tonight,
the moon's shinin' bright
so turn out the light, and we'll get it right.
There's gonna be a heartache tonight, a
heartache tonight I know.
Heartache baby,

Somebody's gonna hurt someone, (somebody)
Before the night is through
Somebody's gonna come undone,
There's nothin' we can do
(Everybody) Everybody wants to touch somebody
if it takes all night
Everybody wants to take a little chance
To make it come out right

There's gonna be a heartache tonight
A heartache tonight, I know
There's gonna be a heartache tonight,
A heartache tonight ,I know
Let's go.
We can beat around the bushes;
we can get down to the bone
We can leave it in the parkin' lot,
but either way, there's gonna be a
heartache tonight, a heartache tonight I know.
There'll be a heartache tonight
a heartache tonight I know.


Age Activated Attention Deficit Disorder:

This Is How It Goes:
I decide to wash the car; I start toward the garage and notice the mail on the table. OK, I'm going to wash the car, but first I'm going to go through the mail.

I lay the car keys down on the desk, discard the junk mail and I notice the trash can is full. OK, I'll just put the bills on my desk and take the trash can out, but since I'm going to be near the mailbox anyway, I'll pay these few bills first.

Now, where is my check book? OOPS, there's only one check left. My extra checks are in my desk. Oh, there's the coke I was drinking. I'm going to look for those checks. But first I need to put my coke further away from the computer, or maybe I'll pop it into the fridge to keep it cold for a while.

I head towards the kitchen and my flowers catch my eye; they need some water. I set the coke on the counter and ooh, oh! There are my glasses. I was looking for them all morning! I'd better put them away first.

I fill the container with water and head for the flower pots -aaaaagh! Someone left the TV remote in the kitchen. We will never think to look in the kitchen tonight when we want to watch television so I'd better put it back in the family room where it belongs. I splash some water into the pots and onto the floor. I throw the remote onto a soft cushion on the sofa and I head back down the hall trying to figure out what it was I was going to do.

END OF DAY: The car isn't washed, the bills are unpaid, the coke is
sitting on the kitchen counter, the flowers are half watered, the check book still only has one check in it and I can't seem to find my car keys!

When I try to figure out how come nothing got done today, I'm baffled

I realize this is a serious condition and I'll get help, BUT FIRST, I think I'll check my e-mail. Please send this to everyone you know because I DON'T REMEMBER WHO I'VE SENT THIS TO! But please don't send it back to me or I might send it to you again!!!!!!!!


Have a great weekend all..............

Red Oak

Message: 35758 Posted: Sat Sep 25 04:08:35 2004 By: thommo
Subject: America


I had no trouble getting those cds from overseas
But I do agree with you, there are too many best of, etc out there
The real question is when are we going to get a new America recording

Message: 35757 Posted: Fri Sep 24 20:58:19 2004 By: Robsl
Subject: Philip and Vanessa

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that of their album tracks, "If I Fell" is a cover of the Beatles song, and "Our House" is a cover of CSN. That's just a guess as I haven't heard the album. It was amusing listening to their version of Ventura Highway. I can't hear Vanessa very well, or maybe she just plays backup. you guys think they were the reverse of The Captain and Tennille, where the guy played the instruments and his wife sang? Haha just a guess. Also, "Two Sleepy People" is probably the standard that was written by Hoagy Carmichael.
Interesting to hear,...thanks SteveL for the soundclip and thanks JoeB for finding it.

Rob L

Message: 35756 Posted: Fri Sep 24 13:54:48 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Hey You People

Geez I could not wait for the elevator to reach my floor.....

Boy, is that ever a "beige" version of that song.
Thanks for sharing Steve and Joe.

Message: 35755 Posted: Fri Sep 24 12:41:47 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Friday AM Jam

Honkin' On Bobo, Aerosmith,DanC.

Message: 35754 Posted: Fri Sep 24 12:33:06 2004 By: macchiefs
Subject: Orlando Cancelled

The Orlando show, scheduled for tomorrow, has been cancelled, due to the hurricane forecast.

Message: 35753 Posted: Fri Sep 24 12:27:43 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Hey You People

After listening to the song a little closer, I think they also sing "now the gater isn't in the air". Here's a little more information about the duo.

Their album was released on the UK based label, Anchor, which didn't do very well except for a couple of "Ace" releases. The duo's album was titled "Two Sleepy People", was released in April of 1975, and featured the following tracks: Love/Love Is The Answer/If I Fell/Not Looking Back/Best Thing/You Know/Baby I Love You/It Ain't Easy/Ventura Highway/Our House/Lady May/Dancing Jones/Two Sleepy People.

Message: 35752 Posted: Fri Sep 24 12:17:51 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Clearwater Show Rescheduled

According to the Ruth Eckerd Hall web site, the America concert scheduled for September 26 has been postponed to October 14, 2004 at 7 pm (due to Hurricane Jeanne). Click on the preceding link for all the details.

Message: 35751 Posted: Fri Sep 24 12:15:11 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: Friday AM Jam

Listened to Live in Texas (live) by Lyle Lovett which I was able to pick up at a show a few months ago, great cd.

Thanks Red Oak, great joke today... reminds me of some people in my family. Hope everyone's having a great Friday!


Message: 35750 Posted: Fri Sep 24 12:11:58 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Hey You People

Those of you who have been around this chat folder for a while know that JoeB always starts his posts with "Hey you people". So, since he sent me a cool soundclip today, I thought it was only fitting that that should be the subject. Enough small talk, let's cut to the chase.

If you go back to the June 1999 Chat Folder archives and read message #7280 you'll read a note from Joe about a strange cover version of "Ventura Highway" by a Canadian duo named "Phillip & Vanessa". Besides the cheesy, funny, lounge-esque version of the song, you'll find they have modified the lyrics to be "and the day surrounds your gay light hair". Your guess is as good as mine about what that kind of hair that is! Anyway, Joe was able to digitize the song and send it to me so you can click here to listen to it. Thanks Joe!


P.S. It seems like Joe always has a P.S. on his posts.
P.P.S. In fact, he usually has more than one.
P.P.P.S. Often times he mentions a Chicago sports team and Jeff Larson.
P.P.P.P.S. Thanks again Joe!

Message: 35749 Posted: Fri Sep 24 09:52:08 2004 By: Pete
Subject: Re: Re New CD

Every time I see new CD I think America is coming out with one. I would say we are due for a new CD with all new songs pretty soon. Keep your fingers crossed.

Message: 35748 Posted: Fri Sep 24 09:18:17 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Re New CD

Goanna...thanks mate, when my son was transferred to London a couple of years ago he was able to get me the CDs I couldn't get in Oz at the time -"Alibi", "Silent Letter", "You Move" (French Import) and "Perspective". At that time I didn't have this computer. I have ordered four of Dan Peek's CDs from Amazon but there are having trouble with a couple of them, one being "All Things Are Possible". I've kept all my LPs as some of them have inner sleeves which don't come with CDs. I really appreciate your help.

Thanks MarkM..I suppose the new CD might draw a few new fans but it would have been nice if Rhino had just added a couple of new songs to the set like they did with "ENCORE". I can't wait for them to release "The Very,Very,Very,Very Best of America"


Message: 35747 Posted: Fri Sep 24 08:52:19 2004 By: Robsl
Subject: Friday AM Jam

I'm playing "Decade" by Neil Young.

Rob L

Message: 35746 Posted: Fri Sep 24 08:37:09 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Today's jam and virus alert

Evan and Jaron "Half Dozen"

I got no less than three emails from "musicrun" that were infected. Lucklily the email program I use detected them so I was able to delete them without incident. Just a warning, our little gremlin is at it again!

Message: 35745 Posted: Fri Sep 24 06:44:12 2004 By: red oak
Subject: This Day in Rock

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 24, 2004

62 years ago - Linda McCartney, wife of Paul and his keyboardist, is born. She died in 1998. (1942)

47 years ago - Alan Freed tells his story in "Mister Rock and Roll," debuting at Freed's favorite theatre, the Paramount in New York City. The cameos in the flick alone are worth the price of the popcorn: Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Brook Benton, the Moonglows, Clyde McPhatter and Frankie Lymon & the Teenagers. (1957)

38 years ago - The Beatles' "Eleanor Rigby" peaks at #11 on the singles chart. (1966)

38 years ago - Jimi Hendrix and his manager Chas Chandler arrive in London from New York, where Chandler discovered Hendrix working in Greenwich go-go clubs. Chandler convinces Hendrix that Britain would be more receptive to his style. During the trans-atlantic flight, Hendrix changes the spelling of his first name from Jimmy to Jimi. (1966)

38 years ago - Stevie Wonder's "Up-tight Everything's Alright" enters the LP chart. It features the top-10 hits, "Uptight (Everything's Alright)" and a remake of Bob Dylan's "Blowin' In The Wind." (1966)

27 years ago - The first Elvis Presley convention is held in Memphis. (1977)

27 years ago - Fleetwood Mac's "Don't Stop" peaks at #3 on the singles chart while E.L.O.'s "Telephone Line" peaks at #7. (1977)

27 years ago - Styx' "Come Sail Away" is released. (1977)

21 years ago - Billy Joel's "Tell Her About It" hits #1 on the singles chart. (1983)

21 years ago - The Moody Blues' "The Present" enters the LP chart. (1983)

20 years ago - Paul McCartney releases "No More Lonely Nights." (1984)

16 years ago - Bobby McFerrin's "Don't Worry, Be Happy" hits #1 on the singles chart. (1988)

16 years ago - James Brown is arrested in Georgia after leading police on a hour-long, two-state car chase. (1988)

11 years ago - Former Guns N'Roses drummer Steven Adler reaches a $2.5 million dollar settlement with his former band mates, who threw him out of the band because he couldn't kick his heroin habit. (1993)

10 years ago - Eric Clapton performs on the season premiere of "Saturday Night Live." (1994)

6 years ago - Aerosmith's Steven Tyler, dressed in a Cardinal jersey, threw out the first pitch at the Expos-Cardinal game at Busch Stadium in St. Louis. The band was in town, and came to the game to meet and see home run king Mark McGwire in action. McGwire had set the single season home run record earlier in the month. (1998)


Billy Joel - Tell Her About It

Listen boy
Don't want to see you let a good thing
Slip away

You know I don't like watching
Anybody make the same mistakes
I made

She's a real nice girl
And she's always there for you
But a nice girl wouldn't tell you what you should do

Listen boy
I'm sure that you think you got it all
Under control

You don't want somebody telling you
The way to stay in someone's soul

You're a big boy now
You'll never let her go
But that's just the kind of thing
She ought to know

Tell her about it
Tell her everything you feel
Give her every reason to accept
That you're for real

Tell her about it
Tell her all your crazy dreams
Let her know you need her
Let her know how much she means

Listen boy
It's not automatically a certain guarantee
To insure yourself
You've got to provide communication constantly

When you love someone
You're always insecure
And there's only one good way
To reassure

Tell her about it
Let her know how much you care
When she can't be with you
Tell her you wish you were there

Tell her about it
Every day before you leave
Pay her some attention
Give her something to believe

Cause now and then
She'll get to worrying
Just because you haven't spoken
For so long
Though you may not have done anything
Will that be a consolation when she's gone

Listen boy
It's good information from a man
Who's made mistakes

Just a word or two that she gets from you
Could be the difference that it makes

She's a trusting soul
She's put her trust in you
But a girl like that won't tell you
What you should do

Tell her about it
Tell her everything you feel
Give her every reason
To accept that you're for real

Tell her about it
Tell her all your crazy dreams
Let her know you need her
Let her know how much she means

Tell her about it
Tell her how you feel right now
Tell her about it
The girl don't want to wait too long
You got to tell her about it
Tell her now and you won't go wrong
You got to tell her about it
Before it gets too late
You got to tell her about it
You know the girl don't want
To wait--you got to
Tell her about it


Cooking Eggs

A wife was making a breakfast of fried eggs for her husband. Suddenly her husband burst into the kitchen.

"Careful ...CAREFUL! Put in some more butter! Oh my GOD! You're cooking too many at once. TOO MANY! Turn them! TURN THEM NOW! We need more butter. Oh my GOD! WHERE are we going to get MORE BUTTER? They're going to STICK! Careful...CAREFUL! I said be CAREFUL! You NEVER listen to me when you're cooking! Never! Turn them! Hurry up! Are you CRAZY? Have you LOST your mind? Don't forget to salt them. You know you always forget to salt them. Use the salt. USE THE SALT! THE SALT!"

The wife stared at him. "What the hell is wrong with you? You think I don't know how to fry a couple of eggs?"

The husband calmly replied, "I wanted to show you what it feels like when I'm driving with you in the car."


TGIF everyone...........

Red Oak

Message: 35744 Posted: Fri Sep 24 05:40:52 2004 By: Goanna
Subject: Re: New CD

Hiya Bluey,
Goanna here...

If you have a look in a couple of the old 2nd hand record stores
down around the Central Railway Station end (Sydney), you might pick up some of those older classic LP's, etc, failing that, you can still get quite a few of the older recordings on CD from Amazon and quite a few online U.S. sites, you'll pay for them though, but they are worth it....



Message: 35743 Posted: Fri Sep 24 05:13:39 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Front Page News

The band made the front page of the newspaper in Gainesville:

Message: 35742 Posted: Fri Sep 24 04:26:08 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Friday AM Jam

"Strong persuader" Great choice !! Almost as good as mine.
"Hat trick"
Mark M

Message: 35741 Posted: Fri Sep 24 04:04:02 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: VTTHW- Gainsville

Looks spooky...

Message: 35740 Posted: Fri Sep 24 03:53:24 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Friday AM Jam

Strong Persuader
Robert Cray

Message: 35739 Posted: Fri Sep 24 03:43:54 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: New CD

Well said !! lol

Message: 35738 Posted: Fri Sep 24 03:25:41 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: New CD

I think with "Horse With No Name and Other Hits" it's really Rhino's grab at fans and newcomers alike in that, they are saying "If you are a true fan, we have got to have this in your collection so you have the numbers!!!!" I bought "Ventura Highway & Other Favorites", and "The Best of America" CDs because I couldn't get the "Silent Letter" "Alibi" "Perspective" CDs in Oz (actually you still can't get them here!) Tracks like "Tall Treasures", "We Got All Night" "One Morning" "All My Life" "The Last Unicorn" "All Around" etc were only available on LP.

You know what I think? I reckon Rhino is sayin to us, the fans, "If you are a true fan, you should have 50 or so CDs in your collection, you better buy this because everyone else has!" I'll give you the drum, Rhino - stick this CD up your arse, you're not gonna rip me off this time. Hope I didn't offend anybody but I hate being taken for a sucker. When I saw the playlist, I think Dewey and Gerry (and Dan) would be embarrassed. I saw "History" today at Penrith HMV music store for $AUS9.95 and that was released some 20 years ago. If they had songs a couple of new songs, fair enought but !!!!!

Regards Bluey.

Message: 35737 Posted: Thu Sep 23 21:53:18 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: VFTHW - Gainsville

Neat picture -- is that spanish moss hanging from the tree?

Message: 35736 Posted: Thu Sep 23 21:14:20 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: link to new America compilation

I read your reply after I posted the other one to Madolyn. You make a lot of sense. It really is geared toward a none fan looking for some "classic America". Not the hard core fans.
Mark M

Message: 35735 Posted: Thu Sep 23 21:08:30 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: VFTHW - Gainsville

It looks nice....but, what is it? :)

Message: 35734 Posted: Thu Sep 23 21:03:00 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: link to new America compilation

I agree with you....seems like just a lot of fuss over music that everyone already has in one or more CD'S already. Seems to me that if you own all of "Americas" original albums, you pretty much have it all.
I can see getting "Highway" because it's such a great compolation. Or "Encore" because it has several songs that were not on any other album. But, the newer small compolation, does seem redundent.
Mark M

Message: 35733 Posted: Thu Sep 23 19:59:49 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: adding Struttin' Our Stuff

Thanks for the Reminder, David, I'll be sure to add it, too.

Message: 35732 Posted: Thu Sep 23 19:56:55 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - Gainsville

Click here to see the view from Gerry's hotel window in Gainsville, FL.

Message: 35731 Posted: Thu Sep 23 18:42:43 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: link to new America compilation

Rhino usually does an outstanding job with their releases, however, since this looks like a low-budget release (cheap price), I doubt that liner notes or packaging will be impressive. This release is not meant for the hardcore America fan, it is meant to entice the casual or new fan who only remembers the big hits. They will see it and think "I remember Horse With No Name! Cool song. Hey look it has Sister Golden Hair and Ventura Highway. I remember them too. I may as well pick it up and give it a listen. At this price I can't miss since I know it has at least a few songs I like."

Fans who want detailed liner notes and pictures can pick-up Complete Greatest Hits or better yet, the Highway Box Set. This release is not targetted at people who have Complete Greatest Hits, etc... It is targetted at people who don't have any America CDs. The combination of a low price and good songs will entice people who normally would not have bought an America CD (at least that is the plan).

While we hardcore fans may dismiss these budget compilations, I think it should be noted that the biggest selling album released after 1985 was the low-budget Capitol release Ventura Highway and Other Favorites. The combination of a well known song in the title and a low price proved to be a very successful marketing ploy, though I will admit that I'm sure a lot of people were disappointed with it when they found out that the biggest hits on it were not the originals, but were live recordings of them. The songs on this new compilation are far better than what was on Ventura Highway.

It looks like they just included songs from the WB albums. Probably to hold down the price by not having to pay royalties to Capitol for using their songs. I suspect that Amber Cascades was included because it was the last WB single to make the charts. All-in-all I don't think they did a bad job picking the songs, though I would have included Today's The Day instead of either Amber Cascades or Only In Your Heart, since it was a bigger hit than either, but they probably wanted to include as many Dan and Gerry songs as possible, since they are the group everybody sees now.

Message: 35730 Posted: Thu Sep 23 18:29:47 2004 By: David S
Subject: adding Struttin' Our Stuff

Hi Steve, you might also want to add the compilation from Germany, Struttin' Our Stuff, to the album list, too.

Message: 35729 Posted: Thu Sep 23 18:14:51 2004 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Re "Where Are They Now"

Regarding Bernie Leadon,

Combining clean, clearwater vocals, songwriting savvy and expert chops on all-things-stringed, Leadon served as an flexible, integral member of such seminal ‘country hyphen’ acts as Dillard & Clark, The Flying Burrito Brothers and The Eagles, and has since worn the hats of engineer, producer and label exec.

Meisner was with Rick Nelson in Stone Canyon band. Garden Party is one of my all-time favs.

Red Oak

Message: 35728 Posted: Thu Sep 23 17:24:12 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: link to new America compilation

Maybe I'm a cynic, but it seems like a redundant effort -- all of these songs are on "History" (minus a handful) and with the lone, odd (in my opinion) addition of "Amber Cascades" (I hope I don't offend anyone -- I'd rather see a different Dewey song like "Rainbow Song" or "Green Monkey" or "Cornwall Blank" in its place). Maybe there are great liner notes and rare photos, though -- Rhino usually doesn't disappoint when it comes to packaging.

-- Madolyn

Message: 35727 Posted: Thu Sep 23 17:13:17 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Re "Where Are They Now"

Thanks SteveO and Red, I was only thinking about all the Rick Nelson LPs I had (before being stolen some years ago) particularly with The Stone Canyon Band. I know Randy Meisner was in the band and I think maybe, Bernie Leadon was member for awhile. Don't know if you remember great songs like "Windfall" "one Night Stand" "Funny How Time Slips Away" and of course "Garden Party" There are two albums Vols 1 & 2 "Rick Nelson and The Stone Canyon Band" It was great to hear Randy's background singing in some of those songs. Anyway I'll have a look at both those web sites. Thanks.


Message: 35726 Posted: Thu Sep 23 15:26:31 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: Where Are They Now?

Meisner's "One More song" is currently out of print here in the U.S. I'm fortunate to have the CD from years back. His last studio Cd was just released in June called "Love me or leave me alone."
Bernie Leadon's "Mirror" was released domestically back in March,but was first available on his website. Hope this info helps you out!

Message: 35725 Posted: Thu Sep 23 15:06:22 2004 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Where Are They Now?


You can get info on Bernie at

Use for Randy

I believe Bernie just released a CD recently & Randy Meisner had a slight heart attack recently.

Red Oak

Message: 35724 Posted: Thu Sep 23 13:03:29 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Where Are They Now?

A couple of more "Where are they now?" questions.

1st: Randy Meisner (of The Eagles) I have got his "One More Song" LP but can't get the CD. What a great album, "Hearts On Fire", "Trouble Ahead" and of course "One More Song" (with Don Henley and Glenn Frey), and
2nd: Bernie Leadon (also ex-Eagles) love his Eagles' songs - "Train Leaves Here This Morning" and "I Give You Peace".

I haven't heard anything about Randy or Bernie for sometime...Can someone help out?

Thanks for your info about Waddy and Lee.
Regards, Bluey.

Message: 35723 Posted: Thu Sep 23 07:47:35 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: link to new America compilation

Thanks for the link David. I'll have to find some time to add that to the list of albums on the America Fans web site.

Message: 35722 Posted: Thu Sep 23 06:26:34 2004 By: KevinS.
Subject: Speaking of new America compilations.

What ever happened with talk of re-releasing their first album with new tracks?


Message: 35721 Posted: Thu Sep 23 06:12:19 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: link to new America compilation

Looks like a follow-up to the budget release Ventura Highway and Other Favorites, which actually sold well. Looks like a much better selection of songs so hopefully it will do well. I assume that all the songs are the studio versions and not a mix of live/studio like on Ventura Highway.

Since they keep coming out with new releases every few years, that means there is still a demand for America's music. Good news all the way around.

Message: 35720 Posted: Thu Sep 23 05:44:23 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: John Fogerty's "Deja Vu" CD- random thoughts

Steve ~ I feel quite sure that the caller is screened to determine which song he/she will be requesting. If not on the already pre-determined play list, it's my opinion that the caller and his/her request won't be put on the air. This is merely my asumption but I feel quite sure that's how it's arranged. Maybe someone else here knows for sure.

I, too, watched last night's performance. Fogerty was indeed in great form. The "LBR" show is often re-played so hopefully others will catch it later in the month.

Message: 35719 Posted: Thu Sep 23 05:40:44 2004 By: red oak
Subject: This Day in Rock

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 23, 2004

55 years ago - Bruce Springsteen is born in Freehold, New Jersey. (1949)

37 years ago - The Doors' "People Are Strange" is released. (1967)

35 years ago - The Illinois University newspaper, "The Northern Star" runs an article with the headline "Clues Hint At Beatle Death", citing the Sgt. Pepper album cover and the line "I buried Paul." (John Lennon would later claim it was "I'm very bored") in the fadeout of "Strawberry Fields Forever." It would spark one of the hypes of the decade: the Paul Is Dead controversy. Within weeks, Paul will inform journalists from his Scotland farm that reports of his demise are premature. (1969)

32 years ago - Mott The Hoople's "All The Young Dudes" is released. (1972)

30 years ago - The drummer for the Average White Band, Robbie McIntosh, dies in his North Hollywood hotel room. He died of a heroin overdose when earlier that night he inhaled a white powder thought to be cocaine but was actually pure heroin. McIntosh was 24. (1974)

26 years ago - Veteran Memphis gospel-soul singer Soloman Burke makes a rare disco-era entry into the soul chart with "Please Don't Say Goodbye to Me." It stays on the chart for only four weeks, peaking at #91. (1978)

26 years ago - Foreigner's "Double Vision" is released. (1978)

24 years ago - David Bowie replaces Philip Anglim in the title role of the hit Broadway play, "The Elephant Man," in New York City. (1980)

13 years ago - Guitarist Izzy Stradlin leaves Guns N' Roses and is replaced by Gilby Clarke. (1991)

7 years ago - The Rolling Stones begin their "Bridges To Babylon" tour at Chicago's Soldier Field. They begin the show with "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" and close it 2 1/2 hours later with "Brown Sugar." They play mostly classic Stones songs, only playing two new ones off their "Bridges To Babylon" album. (1997)


Bruce Springsteen - Pink Cadillac

You may think I'm foolish
For the foolish things I do
You may wonder how come I love you
When you get on my nerves like you do
Well baby you know you bug me
There ain't no secret 'bout that
Well come on over here and hug me
Baby I'll spill the facts
Well honey it ain't your money
'Cause baby I got plenty of that
I love you for your pink Cadillac
Crushed velvet seats
Riding in the back
Cruising down the street
Waving to the girls
Feeling out of sight
Spending all my money
On a Saturday night
Honey I just wonder what you do there in back
Of your pink Cadillac
Pink Cadillac

Well now way back in the Bible
Temptations always come along
There's always somebody tempting
Somebody into doing something they know is wrong
Well they tempt you, man, with silver
And they tempt you, sir, with gold
And they tempt you with the pleasures
That the flesh does surely hold
They say Eve tempted Adam with an apple
But man I ain't going for that
I know it was her pink Cadillac
Crushed velvet seats
Riding in the back
Oozing down the street
Waving to the girls
Feeling out of sight
Spending all my money
On a Saturday night
Honey I just wonder what it feels like in the back
Of your pink Cadillac

Now some folks say it's too big
And uses too much gas
Some folks say it's too old
And that it goes too fast
But my love is bigger than a Honda
It's bigger than a Subaru
Hey man there's only one thing
And one car that will do
Anyway we don't have to drive it
Honey we can park it out in back
And have a party in your pink Cadillac



I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes.

Gardening Rule: When weeding, the best way to make sure you are removing a weed and not a valuable plant is to pull on it. If it comes out of the ground easily, it is a valuable plant.

The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement.

Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.

There are two kinds of pedestrians: the quick and the dead.

Life is sexually transmitted.

An unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys.

If quitters never win, and winners never quit, then who is the fool who said, "Quit while you're ahead?"

Health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.

The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth.

Give a person a fish and you feed them for a day; teach that person to use the Internet and they won't bother you for weeks.

Some people are like Slinkies, not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing.

Have you noticed since everyone has a camcorder these days no one talks about seeing UFOs like they used to?

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism.

Why does a slight tax increase cost you two hundred dollars and a substantial tax cut saves you thirty cents?

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.

How is it one careless match can start a forest fire, but it takes a whole box to start a campfire?


You read about all these terrorists most of them came here legally, but they hung around on these expired visas, some for as long as 10 -15 years.
Now, compare that to Blockbuster; you are two days late with a video and those people are all over you. Let's put Blockbuster in charge of immigration


Thank you so much "Ladies of the Night" for making last night's chat njoyable. Where were you Nancy H?

TGIAF everyone........

Red Oak

Message: 35718 Posted: Thu Sep 23 04:36:35 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: John Fogerty's "Deja Vu" CD- random thoughts

Pete,you are right. The show was outstanding,and Fogerty was in fine vocal form. It always amazes me though that these "request" shows stay with the tried and true. You'd think some caller would ask for some little-known song,but it doesn't often happen.

Message: 35717 Posted: Thu Sep 23 04:11:40 2004 By: Pete
Subject: Re: John Fogerty's "Deja Vu" CD- random thoughts

John Fogerty was on A&E last night and he sounded great. He played some of his new songs along with some of his other great hits of the past.

Message: 35716 Posted: Wed Sep 22 20:35:33 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: John Fogerty's "Deja Vu" CD- random thoughts

<<The new song will not be popular with the current Administration......>>

Nor will it be popular with the one that occupies it for the next four years.

Message: 35715 Posted: Wed Sep 22 19:51:54 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: "New" John Lennon

I can,t wait for that one myself....along with the new rlease of Johns "Rock and roll" album !
Mark M

Message: 35714 Posted: Wed Sep 22 18:53:06 2004 By: David S
Subject: link to new America compilation

Here's a tracklist and photo of the new "Horse With No Name and Other Hits" compilation from Rhino Flashback.

Message: 35713 Posted: Wed Sep 22 14:59:02 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: OT: the new Fogerty

Fogerty had a long running legal battle with his old label. My understanding is that he sold or signed away the rights to his CCR songs in exchange for the label letting him out of his contract. I think his contract required him to record a few more albums on that label and he wanted out, or something like that. For years he wouldn't play any of his old CCR songs because it benefited his old label since they owned the rights.

That song "Zaentz can't dance" was an attack on the president of his old label, and was titled "Vantz (sp?) can't dance" or something like that at first. Then Vantz, the label president, sued for slander and Fogerty changed the song. Then the label sued Fogerty for plagiarizing himself, since they owned the rights to the CCR songs. They said one of his new songs sounded too much like one of his old CCR songs (I think they said "Old Man Down the Road" copied off of "Run Through The Jungle" or maybe it was "Green River"). The jury didn't buy it (kind of falls into the "well duh!" category - imagine an artist sounding like himself).

His brother, Tom, did die in the late 80's or early 90's before CCR was inducted into the HOF. It is my understanding that Clifford and Cook were willing to play at the HOF induction concert, but Fogerty refused to play with them, so he had others accompany him at the concert.

It is my understanding that Tom Fogerty, being the older brother, started out as the leader of the group, but John's obvious talent soon propelled him into the lead position. I believe Tom went on to release some solo albums after he left the group, but never made much of a splash as a solo artist.

Message: 35712 Posted: Wed Sep 22 14:17:15 2004 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: French Forum

Thierry, Thierry, Thierry!
Merci, merci, merci!
I joined.
Hope we get a bunch of francophone America fans on the forum....

Message: 35711 Posted: Wed Sep 22 13:41:28 2004 By: Thierry
Subject: French Forum

Salut à Tous.
Je viens de créer un Forum Francophone sur AMERICA.
Vous pouvez vous y inscrire là :


Message: 35710 Posted: Wed Sep 22 12:55:04 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Phillips Center show in Gainesville

Here's a link to an article about tomorrow night's show. Interesting that they mention a pre-show discussion; wonder if the band is taking part in that?

Message: 35709 Posted: Wed Sep 22 11:35:11 2004 By: hekawi25
Subject: "New" John Lennon

This November, Capitol is releasing "new" John Lennon stuff: the "Rock & Roll" album remastered with extra tracks, and a cd called "Acoustic" with some previously unreleased material including demo versions (kinda like the Beatles Anthology type of thing).

Message: 35708 Posted: Wed Sep 22 11:17:57 2004 By: Pete
Subject: Re: OT: the new Fogerty

I've seen Fogerty in concert and he was great. John Fogerty is CCR just as you wrote Steve.

Message: 35707 Posted: Wed Sep 22 10:49:58 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: OT: the new Fogerty

John Fogerty was the MAIN man in CCR. He wrote & produced all the hits,and sang lead on them. If I'm not mistaken,I also read where he taught the other band members how to play their instruments. Fogerty played all the instruments on his 1985 LP "Centerfield." While its laughable to me that the ex-CCR members(Clifford & Cook) continue to carry on,most people know enough NOT to go see "Creedence Clearwater Revisited" if John Fogerty is playing in the same market. Why would you want to shortchange yourself? As for "Deja Vu All over again",it reminds me of the early CCR hit "Have you ever seen the rain?"

Message: 35706 Posted: Wed Sep 22 09:26:13 2004 By: Robsl
Subject: OT: the new Fogerty

I wanted to say that I have been hearing that new song by John Fogerty and I like it as well. It's nice musically, and I agree with it politically. I'm going to be seeing Fogerty in concert along with Bruce Springsteen, REM, and Bright Eyes in Cleveland, Ohio in October as part of the Vote for Change tour. It ought to be lots of fun. :)
The song has a nice guitar hook, and keeps that great Creedence feel to it. I would agree that it seems John Fogerty has been kind of harsh toward the other members of CCR over the years. Apparently he and his brother had a falling out at some point during the fame years. Doug Clifford and Stu something (Cook?) , the other members of the band did not perform onstage with Fogerty at the induction of Creedence Clearwater Revival into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. That marked the only time a band has refused to reunite onstage for their induction, as far as I've heard. (Feel free to correct me if i'm mistaken about that.) I guess it is just a shame that CCR started to have conflicts that tore apart their friendships over the years. But Fogerty still seems to be releasing good songs, so I think that is good , even if he has had his moments of harshness in the past. Just wanted to add my input.


PS...I'm really enjoying "Willow Tree Lullaby" these days. It's a really nice song, one that I hadn't been into much in the past. But now I'm realizing it's awesome. I love the vocal, it seems relaxing but kind of spooky and intriguing too..."don't wait for me at the willow will be waiting for you...the wind through the leaves plays a symphony...harmony rhapsody too..."
Awesome little mini-song.

Message: 35705 Posted: Wed Sep 22 08:07:42 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: John Fogerty's "Deja Vu" CD- random thoughts

I have always liked JF. His songs are not overtly political- "Who'll stop the rain?" is about the Vietnam war, but you really have to listen to get it. My favorite "rant" is "Zaentz can't dance" about the fight with his label and the fact that they would not allow him to profit from his work and actually SUED him because one of the songs on his cd actually SOUNDED like another one of the songs HE WROTE. Honestly. The jury laughed the label out of court.

I think his brother Tom had passed on before they were inducted into the Hall of Fame- I could be wrong.....

The new song will not be popular with the current Administration......

Message: 35704 Posted: Wed Sep 22 07:52:44 2004 By: red oak
Subject: This Day in Rock History

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 22, 2004

44 years ago - Singer/guitarist Joan Jett is born. (1960)

48 years ago - Billboard runs an article which states, "with new experiences to their credit, such as calling riot squads and with scars such as damaged seats, some arena and stadium officials have turned their thumbs down to rock and roll. (1956)

39 years ago - The Who begin a short tour of Scandinavia in Copenhagen; Roger Daltrey punches out Keith Moon and is all but kicked out of the band. (1965)

39 years ago - San Francisco rock group, the Great Society with singer Grace Slick, makes its stage debut at the Coffee Gallery in North Beach, California. (1965)

38 years ago - The same day "Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby?" is released in the U.K., the Rolling Stones embark on a British tour. Along for the ride is the Ike & Tina Turner Revue and the Yardbirds. It's the Stones last British tour for more than four years. (1966)

37 years ago - The Beatles appear on the cover of Time Magazine. (1967)

32 years ago - David Bowie begins his first U.S. tour with the Spiders From Mars at Cleveland's Music Hall. (1972)

32 years ago - Oasis' Liam Gallagher is born. (1972)

28 years ago - Bob Dylan's album, "Hard Rain," a live document of his 1976 tour with the Rolling Thunder Revue, goes gold. (1976)

24 years ago - John Lennon signs with Geffen Records. (1980)

19 years ago - The first Farm-Aid concert is held in Champaign, IL. The concert is organized by Willie Nelson, John Mellencamp and Neil Young to help the nation's farmers. The show raises $10 million. (1985)

15 years ago - Bruce Springsteen hops onstage with reggae legend Jimmy Cliff at The Stone Pony in Asbury Park. The pair sing Cliff's "Trapped," which Springsteen had recorded for the "We Are The World" album. (1989)

12 years ago - Bruce Springsteen breaks the rules and plays an electric set for MTV's "Unplugged" show. The episode is renamed, "MTV Plugged." (1992)


Worlwide Love - Little River Band

What we need is a world wide love ...

It's the same in every land,
there are hearts too tired to fight,
sitting back in an easy chair,
where they waste another night,
apathy in a fading paradise,
they don't see - the joker laughs as the future cries.

What we need is a world wide love,
shining into every soul,
reaching out to save forever,
world wide love.

I just heard on the radio,
all the young men went to war,
have we really come this far,
just to go where we've been before ?
History says it all in black and white,
seems to me, there's just one thing
that can set it right.

What we need is a world wide love,
shining into every soul,
reaching out to save forever,
a world wide love,
what we need is a world wide love,
one heart, one voice, one goal,
one people all together,
world wide love.

If we can see the light, we can make a change,
we can right the wrongs, ease the pain,
every man can be your brother,
break down the walls between each other.

If we can see the light, we can make a change,
we can right the wrongs, and heal the pain.
every man can be your brother,
break down the walls between each other.

What we need is a world wide love,
shining into every soul,
reaching out to save forever,
a world wide love,
what we need is a world wide love,
one heart, one voice, one goal,
one people all together,
world wide love.

World wide love,
what we need is a world wide love.


The organist

Miss Angela, the church organist, was in her eighties and had been
married. She was much admired for her sweetness and kindness to all in the Parish.

The Pastor came to call on her one afternoon early in spring and
She welcomed him into her Victorian parlor. She invited him to have a
Seat while she made a little tea.

As he sat facing her old pump organ, the young minister noticed a
Cut glass bowl sitting on top of the organ, filled with water. In the water floated, of all things, a condom. Imagine his curiosity!
Surely Miss Angela had flipped or something!

When she returned with the tea and cookies, they began to chat.
The pastor tried to stifle his curiosity about the bowl of water
And its strange floater, but it soon got the better of him, and he could resist no longer.

"Miss Angela," he said, "I wonder if you could tell me about this?"
(pointing to the bowl).

"Oh yes," she replied, "Isn't it wonderful? I was walking downtown
last fall and I found this little package on the ground. The directions said to put it on the organ, keep it wet, and it would prevent disease. And you know, I haven't had a cold all winter."


Has America ever played Branson? Looks to be a natural for them. But, maybe they are still 2 young yet.

Red Oak

Message: 35703 Posted: Wed Sep 22 07:36:49 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: New Stuff On Jeff Larson's Site

I was checking out Jeff Larson's Web Site and I noticed that he has added some new stuff including a new review (congratulations Jeff!) and some new soundclips in the Studio/MP3 section. I think you'll like the alternate acoustic mixes of some great songs.

Message: 35702 Posted: Wed Sep 22 04:07:17 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Correction

A correction on the "John Fogerty, austin city limits date"
I said it was nov. 2nd...but it is oct. 2nd. (sorry)
Mark M

Message: 35701 Posted: Wed Sep 22 04:02:00 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: John Fogerty's "Deja Vu" CD

yes, that helps a lot...thanks!
You are right, I don't remember John being all that political, even in his songs. The only other political song that comes to mind is "Fortunate son". Except for maybe "Effigy"? Im not really sure what that song is about? I guess it dosn't matter, because it's still one of my favorite "CCR" songs. I love that song....I love to turn up the vol. and listen to those guitars.

Maybe there is more to the story, and he's not a big a jerk as he might sound to you? I don't know? I know he is still one of my favorites, and will always be.
Mark M

Message: 35700 Posted: Wed Sep 22 03:46:20 2004 By: Pete
Subject: Re: John Fogerty's "Deja Vu" CD

John Fogerty will be on TV tonight. A&E channel at 10.00 tonight on the east coast. Check your TV guide for those who want to see John Fogerty.

Message: 35699 Posted: Wed Sep 22 03:38:07 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: America song of the moment

Great wedding song....and congrats !

Message: 35698 Posted: Wed Sep 22 03:10:46 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: John Fogerty's "Deja Vu" CD

Don't know nothing about his new CD, but I have always like Fogerty's music. My problem with him is that he apparently turned into a little tyrant when he was with CCR. Since he was the main talent in the group, he started calling all the shots for them. It ended up driving his brother Tom out of the group. When the other members rebelled against his leadership it led to a nasty break-up. The animosity lingers today. When CCR was inducted into the RR HOF a few years ago, Fogerty refused to allow the old members of CCR to perform with him.

This is one of the drawbacks of shows like "Behind the Music", it shatters the image you have of your pop heros. Now I can't help but think of what a jerk he is when I hear one of his songs.

Message: 35697 Posted: Tue Sep 21 22:51:03 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: America song of the moment

Hi dee hooo everyone ~~ Nightowl Nancy here :) ~~~ I'm gonna miss you,yes I will, no matter whooo you are, I love youuu still, will you cancel my papers and lock the door, cause I won't be round here no more.. Yep Gerry has is singing his MY Song of the Moment!!! "To Each His Own"... Earlier today as I did some errands Dewey sang his song "Political Poachers" and yes that was his My Song of the Moment!!!! You all should know me by now, I can never just pick one song :D

Hi there Christine ~~WOW Triple WOWSERS ~~ Best Wishes for Your Wedding Day, and Wow what a song You chose as your America song of the Moment... Hmmm "One in a Million" what a Nice song....and what a Perfect Moment Setting for it your Wedding day! Nice :) Isn't it AWESOME how nicely AMERICA's songs are like the Perfect Puzzle Pieces to our soo many Special Moments!!! :) I Hope your wedding day is filled with Special Moments and Lots of Blessings & Happiness for your Future Together! ~~Come back & let us hear some of the happenings of your special day!

Hmmmm~~ Bluey's bringing up Dewey's song "You Girl" as well as the mentioning of Robert Haimer working on this song as well as Bill Mummy... had me a hankerin to hit the replay button on You Girl, Nothing soooooo far away as yesterday woooo oooh, and Karen L mentioning her hankerin song lately "Survival" had me hankerin to hit the replay button on it as well ~~~ all of these had me hankerin to hear a song that wraps them up nicely Gerry is here singing ~~~Sometimes I am on Target, sometimes I seeeeem to Misssss you, come back dadaadaaddaaa baby turn your heart around, deeedeedeeedee let me turn your heart around.... Yep I hit the replay button on this song too.. sooo my 2 AMERICA Albums of My Day were "The Definitive AMERICA" CD and the "Encore" cd too... Dewey is here now singing "Hells on Fire" and I just gotta say Mr Robert Haimer... that night you were at Live Chat and I signed in sooo late, I didn't realize who you really were... sooo I just gotta say that these songs that I have been listening to today, that you worked on with Dewey & Gerry are such great songs... and if by chance you are reading this, of if by chance you come back to live chat... I have some questions that have always been on my mind about these songs! :)

Hi there Kimacabrina, hi there Dave B & cfhere ~~nice to hear from you guys... Earlier today I went to the NBC site, I didn't see this show that played Horse and didn't give it the mention it deserved... that is something that it was played on there... I mean a Vegas setting, a Casino, Gambling Setting and they use Horse for a background song... I gotta wonder if there was a "Flip Flop" message here... like maybe who put Horse in really just wanted it exposed to some air time... I agree with Madolyn, not everyone who heard Horse playing would focus on the derogatory comment, they would be thinking hey that is AMERICA singing that great song Horse with No Name!!! and I do hope they got their deserved Royalties from this... :)

Hey there Reddddd ~~~Nice to see your posts... Thanks for my end of the day Sugar and Spice and Smiles to send me to my Dreams. Nice to hear you had a great time at the show... I bet you were walking around Branson on floating cloud 10's, while you took in the sites and happenings there... :) Hmmm ~~Earlier today I had wanted to post and I came across these "BUMPER STICKERS WE'D LIKE TO SEE ~~ Hahhaha!

1. Don't like my driving??? Then QUIT Watching Me! :P

2. If You can read this... I can Slam on my Brakes and SUE You!

3. Some People just don't know how to Drive, I call these People "Everybody But Me"

4. Hang Up & Drive!!!!

5. Everybody has a Photographic Memory, Some just don't have any Film loaded!

6. I Use to Have a Handle on Life ~~BUT IT Broke Off!!!!

7. WANTED: Meaningful Overnight Relationship !!!

Hmmmm ~~Just wonderin Red, by chance did you see any of these on your way home on the big open highway!!!! Soooo Glad you & the Mrs are back home safe and sound! :) ;) Oooh yeah one more thing reading your history dates, was like my Saturday afternoon Siruis songs Deja Vous for me, I heard sooo many neat songs, alot were by people mentioned in your history... Yeppers Kinda Neat how sooo many things Weave together at times Huh!!! :)

Hey there DanC ~~ Upon seeing your "Who'll Stop the Rain" lyric line, I had a Deja Vous flash back to a conversation you and I had a lonnnnng time ago... :)

Okay it is later than late and I gotta get my butt to bed! Take care all and thanks for letting me Ramble on Some! Nitey Nite ~ Nice Dreams! Nancy :)

~~~ Oooh darlin, oooh darlin I only wanna see you, oooh darlin, oooh darlin I only wanna seeee you... wrapped in a blanket, lying in the snow, feeling like a man felt a lonnnng time ago, gonna find me a Home, gonna built it with my hands, can't you see, it's good to be home ~~~ Sing it Dewey :)aha, and now back right from where I started... Gerry is singing It's all for you,and all for me, you'll see, I'm gonna miss you, yes I will, no matter who you are, I Love You Still ~~OOooh how many times Ihave sang this song and hit the replay button on it... Sing it again Gerry :):):) Hmmm the last day of Summer was today... it was such a nice day... the sky here this evening was filled with those scattered cotton candy clouds... they were bright pink and blue tinted and there was an Orange sliced Gumdrop Moon up in the sky too... Nice for sure! :)

Message: 35696 Posted: Tue Sep 21 22:11:25 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: America song of the moment

Much happiness to u both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Message: 35695 Posted: Tue Sep 21 21:45:04 2004 By: Christine
Subject: Re: America song of the moment

Our song of the moment must be 'One In Million' I'm getting married this Saturday & it is one of a few we have chosen to be played in church as we're signing the register.

Chris & Eric

Message: 35694 Posted: Tue Sep 21 20:37:58 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: John Fogerty's "Deja Vu" CD

I have the new CD and I'm still trying to familiarize myself with it. Its short--it clocks in at 34:02--but its another fine effort. One good thing about Fogerty: Despite his dislike of the Bush administration,he just did an interview in Billboard where he said he's not one to get real "political" on stage. I can't quote it verbatim,but he said he used to get sick of people like Abbey Hoffman getting up on stage and spouting off about their political views--doesn't believe in harping about stuff. He's made his point with the song("Deja Vu All over again),and he likes to let the music speak for itself. He's got a few styles of music on this new one,but if you've always been a fan of CCR or Fogerty's solo stuff,you won't be disappointed. I didn't hear anything as catchy as "Old man down the road" right off the bat,but as a long time fan,I was pretty much gonna pick this up either way. So far,I like what I'm hearing. Hope this helps some of you out...

Message: 35693 Posted: Tue Sep 21 19:55:46 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: OT: John Fogerty


Message: 35692 Posted: Tue Sep 21 19:16:38 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: Boycott Vegas

In spite of the derogatory comment made about the song, one bright note is that some nice royalty money will be made by the band for the usage on the show. Dewey will probably get something for being the writer along with what the whole band gets for performance rights.

-- Madolyn

Message: 35691 Posted: Tue Sep 21 19:02:21 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: OT: John Fogerty

Sorry but I have not heard the new CD. I did however hear the title track at a show about a month or so back. It was good but it won't be real popular with the George W. fans out there. Thanks for the heads up on the Austin City Limits show on the second, I will be tuned in. "WHO'LL STOP THE RAIN"????DanC.

Message: 35690 Posted: Tue Sep 21 18:46:00 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: OT: John Fogerty

Has anyone heard the new "John Fogerty" album yet? I plan to buy it in the next couple of weeks, just wondering what the opinions are? I know it was just released today, but you never know where you might find a "Fogerty" fan?
"John" will be on "PBS's, austin city limits, nov. 2nd".
Mark M

Message: 35689 Posted: Tue Sep 21 18:27:20 2004 By: red oak
Subject: This Day in Rock September 21

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 21, 2004

57 years ago - Don Felder, former guitar player for the Eagles, is born. (1947)

49 years ago - The Platters' first million seller, "Only You," enters the pop charts at #24. The song hits Number One on the R&B chart. It becomes the first record to sell more than a million copies in France. (1955)

41 years ago - "Sugar Shack" by Jimmy Gilmer & the Fireballs enters the Hot 100. It says there for 15 weeks and climbs to Number One for five weeks starting on October 12. It receives a gold record on November 29. (1963)

36 years ago - Jimi Hendrix' "All Along the Watchtower" is released. (1968)

36 years ago - The Beatles' "Revolution" peaks at #12 on the pop singles chart while Deep Purple's "Hush" peaks at #4 and The Moody Blues' "Tuesday Afternoon" peaks at #24. (1968)

33 years ago - Paul McCartney gets gold records for "Another Day" and "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey." (1971)

30 years ago - The Rolling Stones' "It's Only Rock & Roll (But I Like It)" peaks at #16 on the chart. (1974)

30 years ago - BTO's "You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet" is released. (1974)

28 years ago - The Bee Gees' 20th album, "Children of the World," goes gold. It contains two of their latest hits "You Should Be Dancing" (Number One two weeks ago) and "Love So Right" (which will make it to #3 in two months.) (1976)

24 years ago - Elton John signs a long-term exclusive, worldwide recording contract with Geffen Records, the new label that recently signed Donna Summer. This marks the first time his records will be released on the same label around the world. (1980)

21 years ago - Billy Joel's "Tell Her About It" hits #1 on the singles chart. (1983)

20 years ago - David Bowie releases "Tonight." (1984)

19 years ago - Dire Straits' "Money For Nothing" hits #1 on the pop chart. (1985)

15 years ago - The Bangles break up. (1989)

13 years ago - "The Motown Song" by Rod Stewart with The Temptations peaks at #10 on the singles chart. (1991)

13 years ago - Stevie Nicks' greatest hits LP, "Timespace" enters the chart and Rush's "Roll the Bones" enters the LP chart. (1991)


The Bangles - Eternal Flame

Close your eyes, give me your hand, darling
Do you feel my heart beating
Do you understand
Do you feel the same
Am I only dreaming
Is this burning an eternal flame

I believe it's meant to be, darling
I watch you when you are sleeping
You belong with me
Do you feel the same
Am I only dreaming
Or is this burning an eternal flame

Say my name sun shines through the rain
A whole life so lonely
And then you come and ease the pain
I don't want to lose this feeling


Brewster the Rooster

Whitey was in the fertilized egg business. He had several hundred young layers called pullets and eight or ten roosters, whose job was to fertilize the eggs.

Whitey kept records and any rooster that didn't perform went into the
soup pot and was replaced.

That took an awful lot of Whitey's time so Whitey got a set of tiny bells and attached them to his roosters.

Each bell had a different tone so Whitey could tell from a distance,
which rooster was performing.

Now he could sit on the porch and fill out an efficiency report simply by listening to the bells.

Whitey's favorite rooster was old Brewster, a very fine specimen he was, too. But on this particular morning Whitey noticed old Brewster's bell hadn't rung at all!

Whitey went to investigate. The other roosters were chasing pullets,
bells-a-ringing. The pullets, hearing the roosters coming, would run
for cover.

BUT, to Whitey's amazement, Brewster had his bell in his beak, so it
couldn't ring. He'd sneak up on a pullet, do his job, and walk on to the next one.

Whitey was so proud of Brewster, he entered him in the county fair... and Brewster became an overnight sensation among the judges.

The result...

The judges not only awarded Brewster the "No Bell Piece Prize" but they also awarded him the "Pulletsurprise" as well.

Clearly Brewster was a democrat. Who else could figure out how to win two of the most politically biased awards on our planet by being the best at sneaking up on the populace and screwing them.


Also went to Branson, Missouri. What a town!!!!!!!!!! Never have seen so many senior citizens in my life. There was more Ben Gay smell in the air than I could take. If anyone wants more details on Branson, email me.

Red Oak

Message: 35688 Posted: Tue Sep 21 18:13:58 2004 By: red oak
Subject: This Day in Rock September 20

This Day in Rock & Roll History
September 20, 2004

40 years ago - The Beatles perform a charity show in Brooklyn, New York to finish their U.S. tour this day with a charity show. Later that night they appear on on the Ed Sullivan Show. (1964)

38 years ago - The Beatles' George Harrison goes to India for his first visit with spiritual guru Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. (1966)

35 years ago - Associated TV spends a million pounds to gain control of the Beatles' music publishing company, Northern Songs. (1969)

35 years ago - Blind Faith's self-titled and only album hits #1 on both the U.S. and U.K. charts. (1969)

34 years ago - In Miami, Jim Morrison of the Doors is acquitted on charges of "lewd and lascivious" behavior but is found guilty of indecent exposure and profanity. (1970)

33 years ago - Peter Frampton quits Humble Pie to go solo. (1971)

32 years ago - Police find cannabis growing on Paul and Linda McCartney's farm. (1972)

31 years ago - Neil Young and Crazy Horse play the opening show at the Roxy L-A's newest rock & roll nightclub. (1973)

31 years ago - Singer/songwriter Jim Croce is killed in a plane crash. He was on his way to a concert in Sherman, Texas when the twin engine plane he was on hits a tree on takeoff. All are killed. Jim Croce was 30. (1973)

29 years ago - Bruce Springsteen's "Born To Run" single is released. (1975)

29 years ago - The Bay City Rollers appear live on the premiere of the Howard Cosell's Saturday Night variety show on ABC. It's an obvious attempt to "break" the group in the manner Ed Sullivan did for Elvis Presley & the Beatles. (1975)

29 years ago - David Bowie's "Fame" hits #1 on the singles chart while Bad Company's "Feel Like Making Love" peaks at #10 on the chart. (1975)

26 years ago - The Who's "Who Are You" LP goes gold. (1978)

24 years ago - Billy Joel's "Don't Ask Me Why" peaks at #19 on the singles chart while Peter Gabriel's "Games Without Frontiers" peaks at #48, The Kinks' "Lola" re-enters the chart and peaks at #81; Bob Seger's "You'll Accomp'ny Me" peaks at #14 and Pete Townshend's "Let My Love Open The Door" peaks at #9. (1980)

22 years ago - Joan Jett and the Blackhearts' "I Love Rock and Roll" is certified platinum. The hit is the title track from Jett's second album with the Blackhearts. (1982)

21 years ago - The ARMS Benefit concert to raise money to pay for research to fight Multiple Sclerosis, from which former Faces bass player Ronnie Lane suffers, is held at the Royal Albert Hall in London. Among the performers are Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page and Steve Winwood. (1983)

19 years ago - Tom Petty and the Heartbreaker's "Southern Accents" LP is certfied platinum. (1985)


Joan Jett - I Love Rock And Roll

I saw him dancin' there by the record machine
I knew he must a been about seventeen
The beat was goin' strong
Playin' my favorite song
An' I could tell it wouldn't be long
Till he was with me, yeah me, singin'

I love rock n' roll
So put another dime in the jukebox, baby
I love rock n' roll
So come an' take your time an' dance with me

He smiled so I got up and' asked for his name
That don't matter, he said,
'Cause it's all the same

Said can I take you home where we can be alone

An' next we were movin' on
He was with me, yeah me

Next we were movin' on
He was with me, yeah me, singin'

I love rock n' roll
So put another dime in the jukebox, baby
I love rock n' roll
So come an' take your time an' dance with me

Said can I take you home where we can be alone

An we'll be movin' on
An' singin' that same old song
Yeah with me, singin'

I love rock n' roll
So put another dime in the jukebox, baby
I love rock n' roll
So come an' take your time an' dance with me


Three old Ladies named Gertrude, Maude, and Tilly were sitting on a park bench having a quiet conversation when a flasher approached from across the park.

The flasher came up to the ladies, stood right in front of them and opened his trench coat and exposed himself.

Gertrude immediately had a stroke.

Then Maude had a stroke.

But Tilly, being older and more feeble, bless her heart, couldn't reach that far.


Henley's show Sunday night was xcellent. 2 hours of good ol R & R. What a bunch of players he has working with him. Great sound and the people of Springfield, Missouri know how to party at Southwest Missouri State University. If anyone wants to know more, just email me.

Red Oak

Message: 35687 Posted: Tue Sep 21 18:11:52 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Boycott Vegas

I also found an email address for comments to "NBC".
I mentioned that "they took a cheap shot at a great song and a great band on a recent episode of Las vegas. As a fan of "America" I have to give the show a thumbs down". lol
If nothing was fun !!
Mark M

Message: 35686 Posted: Tue Sep 21 16:28:26 2004 By: cfhere
Subject: Re: America song of the moment

I am also a big fan of Survival. It's my second favorite america song behind Horse. However, my song of the moment has to be Young Moon. Great song. but unfortunately it's not played in the live concerts. Oh well thank god for Hourglass and Highway.


Message: 35685 Posted: Tue Sep 21 06:55:33 2004 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: Re: Boycott Vegas

I went to WWW.NBC.COM - clicked around and found - I sent one the email as follows - How could you dog a great song like Horse with No Name - That's a classic!! it's by a group that deserves a bigger place in history and a group that still is recording great songs but doesn't get the airplay it should - America -

Message: 35684 Posted: Tue Sep 21 06:08:13 2004 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: Re: America song of the moment

I agree that Alibi with some of the studio guys that people have been
mentioning lately Lee and Waddy was tremendous - My songs of the day are: Saturn Nights and Young Moon - no star-like joke intended

Message: 35683 Posted: Tue Sep 21 05:19:36 2004 By: kimcabrina
Subject: Re: America song of the moment

Moon Song


Message: 35682 Posted: Tue Sep 21 05:18:36 2004 By: kimcabrina
Subject: Re: Boycott Vegas

Yep - I saw it too. HWNN came on and I'm all excited saying to my husband "do you hear that!" and then she had that line and I thought he would never stop laughing at me. In all fairness she also trashed the Pina Colada song too - which I've always kind of liked. What's the old saying... "there is no such thing as bad publicity"

Ya'll have a great day!

Message: 35681 Posted: Tue Sep 21 04:59:38 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: More Background singer "stuff"

Love On The Vine is one of my favorite songs off View from the Ground. It does have a 50s-Do Wop feel to it.

Message: 35680 Posted: Mon Sep 20 23:49:30 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Re Mystery Girl

Thanks Anita and everyone, I think that sort of settles it about Sara Taylor being the backup singer on "You Girl". If she had a CD out, I would have ordered it.

I have always been interested in the background of songs, from listening to the Jordanaires on Elvis' songs, The Beatles, Brian Poole and the Tremeloes - I remember when "Do You Love Me" first came out in the 60s and I found that I was actually listening more to the group than the lead singer. They eventually went their own ways and The Tremeloes had a huge world wide hit with "Silence Is Golden". Even the early Bee Gees, when they backed-up on songs they had written for Australian artists during 60s and of course later on, were very distinctive. Love listening to songs with JD Souther, Randy Meisner, Don Henley, Stephen Bishop, Chaka Khan singing back-up. Actually a 2002 CD release "Don't Give Up On Me" by Solomon Burke with "The Blind Boys Of Alabama", particularly on the "None Of Us Are Free" track, is great.

Again thanks, Bluey.

Message: 35679 Posted: Mon Sep 20 20:42:36 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: America song of the moment

Hi Karen L
Survival is one of my favorites fact I just received my copy of "Alibi" on CD last week. I have been ordering them one at a time thru "Amazon". The whole album is great !!
I don't have any of their "greatest hits" albums....except "Encore"
Thats definitly a keeper tho, since they signed the cover of it !!
Mark M

Message: 35678 Posted: Mon Sep 20 20:20:24 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Re: America song of the moment

Hi Mark M.! I can't seem to get enough of "Survival" lately. The lyrics are great, but most of all I just love the SOUND of that song. I've kind of rediscovered it lately. Since I haven't made even a dent in replacing my America vinyl collection with CDs, a lot of what I have in CD form is in "greatest hits" format, Highway set, etc. Therefore (forgive me for saying this), but I forget which album some (only SOME) of the songs come from. For some reason, I'd been thinking that Survival was off View From The Ground and was a Russ Ballard song. Always loved the song, but now that I've dusted off my albums and remembered that it's from Alibi and Gerry WROTE it, I've got a whole new appreciation for it. I've been hitting the replay button on it often on the way to and from work the last couple weeks. The sound of it is almost a few years ahead of its time, if you ask me (that's a good thing). By that I mean, I was thinking it was from about '82/'83 - doesn't strike me as a 1980 song.

I love Dewey's song Tin Man and how at concerts Gerry says, "He wrote that!" Well, the same could be said for Gerry with Survival - "He wrote that!"

Message: 35677 Posted: Mon Sep 20 20:00:37 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Vegas

Cathy, I like your idea the best. I tryed to find a link to write a post to the shows "Fan site". Didn't find one.
I think it would be fun if everyone wrote them, and expressed their loyalties !
I have never seen the show myself, so I guess this is a good enough reason not to start now. :)
Mark M

Message: 35676 Posted: Mon Sep 20 19:50:38 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: More Background singer "stuff"

Regarding the Background singers/vocalists issue...One look at the Liner notes from "View From The Ground" album will tell you just how many of the guys'"Friends" helped out. And if I can do a bit of name-dropping...One of my favorite cuts from "View" is "Love on the vine". As you can tell,there are alot of backing vocals on this song. In my first interview with Dewey back in 1989,here's what he had to say about that song: "Love on the Vine" Could have been produced a little differently,and in retrospect,I wonder if I didn't make a mistake. I pushed it a little far to the left in terms of using different singers and I had a feel I wanted to get on it...Kind of a 'Drifters'
sound. I used some friend-singers from the Modern Folk Quartet on the background vocals. It still had some of the qualities that I was after,and I'm glad you appreciated it. But I don't think we quite got it..."
Some of you may remember that Gerry was the featured vocalist on the 1995 song "Crying In My Sleep" recorded by the Modern Folk Quartet.

Message: 35675 Posted: Mon Sep 20 19:36:52 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: America song of the moment

"She's gonna let you down" (what is yours)?

Message: 35674 Posted: Mon Sep 20 19:26:55 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: Re- Mystery Girl

Wish I could help you all out on the Female vocalist issue(Background singers for the guys)but thats even a stretch for me! Like the rest of you,often times I rely on the liner notes to identify singers. Sometimes they are listed,but often times they aren't.

Message: 35673 Posted: Mon Sep 20 18:59:15 2004 By: Cathy
Subject: Re: Vegas

Oh, when I heard Horse in the background of the show I smiled... then... I pouted. Instead of boycotting, I'm thinking we burst them with our America loyalties and they decide to play even more America as an apology.

Message: 35672 Posted: Mon Sep 20 18:50:56 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Boycott Vegas

Hi David:

I only watch 2 shows every week and Las Vegas is one of them. I caught those comments, too, however I prefer to think of it as more exposure for America's music as opposed to negative publicity. You see, only the character Sam (Vanessa Marcil) doesn't like Horse; her loss!

Message: 35671 Posted: Mon Sep 20 18:35:25 2004 By: David O.
Subject: Boycott Vegas

I was just watching the show "Las Vegas" and two of the characters were sitting in a coffee shop while Horse with no name played in the background, The hostess said (and I quote) We are always trying to make this casino better (pause) I guess we can start by changing that music!..........and to think it's always been one of my favorite shows!

Message: 35670 Posted: Mon Sep 20 17:59:22 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: Waddy and Leland

Robyn wrote: Accoring to, both are still doing session work.

I bet if you look up "session player" in the dictionary, those two guys's picture would be next to the definition. ;o)

-- Madolyn

Message: 35669 Posted: Mon Sep 20 17:51:05 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Waddy and Leland

Accoring to, both are still doing session work. an interesting( at least for me) sidenote. Back in 1972, I saw the Sections first EVER concert-- The Section consisted of Kooch, Leland Craig Doerge and Russ Kunkel. they were opening for James Taylor....

Message: 35668 Posted: Mon Sep 20 16:55:43 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Something Fuzzy

<<Mo, which fuzzies should I cat slippers or the leopard ones??? (The cat ones meow...really!)>>

Both. Definitely.

Message: 35667 Posted: Mon Sep 20 15:26:11 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Waddy

I saw Waddy in the Rattlesnake cafe... ( obscure Warren Zevon reference)
Seriously , I think he is one of the musicians listed on the "Enjoy every sandwich" cd which is a bunch of artists doing WZ's work. Sounds interesting -- I am curious about Adam Sandler-- of all people-- doing Werewolves of London. Jordan Zevon assures everyone that Adam did a fine job of it.......

Message: 35666 Posted: Mon Sep 20 12:09:41 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Re- Mystery Girl

Hi Bluey:

Robert Haimer tells me that Sarah Taylor is an "old pal " of theirs; she has sung on Barnes & Barnes songs as well.

Message: 35665 Posted: Mon Sep 20 11:33:01 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Re- Mystery Girl

Thanks everyone. Forgot to mentioned that "You Girl" was written by Dewey Bunnell/Bill Mumy/Robert Haimer, that writing partnership that also gave us "Lady With A Bluebird", "Someday Woman", "Hell's On Fire", "Nothing's So Far Away (As Yesterday)" - to name a few. Bill Mumy was also the co-writer on the Sara Taylor's Xmas single I mentioned.

Actually looking for female background singers on America's songs, I could really only find two songs, apart from "You Girl", where the girls feature prominently - "Half A Man" (from "Hearts') and "Hot Town" featuring Robbyn Kirmsee and Serena Nelson, taken from the "Human Nature" set. Hope you can find out Steve Orchard?

Hi Robyn, Amazon lists the CD-Single as Out-Of-Stock. The reviews were very good though. Can you lets us know?

Jason, my eldest son, when he was working in London bought me America CDs that I couldn't get in Oz. "Alibi", "Silent Letter", "Perspective" and lastly, "Your Move" which has the three Jim Webb songs on it - "The Last Unicorn", "Man's Road" and "In The Sea". I hadn't realised until looking at the links that it's a French Import. On the "Silent Letter" CD - the words "Silent Letter" are missing, all it has written on the front is "America"

Lastly, can someone tell me if Waddy WACHTEL and Lee SKLAR, both musicians on "Alibi" are still recording? I'm sure I saw Waddy playing at a live-concert with Keith Richards on MusicMax recently. I also have a feeling that I read somewhere that Lee's daughter is also in the music industry. Hope someone can help?

Thanks, Bluey.

Message: 35664 Posted: Mon Sep 20 10:02:38 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Mystery Girl

OH YEAH I remember that song! It got serious airplay on a station I used to listen to ( before I had my dd in the car with me on my way to work) Sara Taylor has some amazing pipes! The song is a risquè ballad about a girl who waits for Santa beneath the Christmas Tree- sans clothing..... Very funny. I will have to give the song on Vie another listen and see if it is the same girl.

Message: 35663 Posted: Mon Sep 20 09:16:18 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: DVD/Mystery Girl

Carly and James Taylor's daughter goes by Sally Taylor, and I think she'd be too young to have performed on the album back then -- she's only about 30 now.

-- Madolyn

Message: 35662 Posted: Mon Sep 20 07:55:34 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Are Way Any Closer To DVD?

Just so everyone knows, the band doesn't have anything to do with the release of the Sydney DVD in the U.S. When they say they're trying to find out information about it, they're serious. I talked to Erin about it when they were in Utah and she was trying to get information about it but it looks like she still hasn't found out anything. I'm sure she'll let us know as soon as she knows.

So the answer to your question, Rob, is that none of us knows yet.

Message: 35661 Posted: Mon Sep 20 07:51:27 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Mystery Girl

Good questions Bluey. I don't know the answers but I wouldn't be surprised if SteveO did.

Message: 35660 Posted: Mon Sep 20 07:02:44 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: Mystery Girl

Thanks, Robyn, you're right!

Message: 35659 Posted: Mon Sep 20 05:33:20 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: DVD/Mystery Girl

I think she goes by Sally......

Message: 35658 Posted: Mon Sep 20 04:02:56 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: DVD/Mystery Girl

Rob, no release date it seems is in sight for us.
Bluey, Sara Taylor...I wonder if she the Sara Taylor that is James Taylor's and Carly Simon's daughter?
Happy Monday...

Message: 35657 Posted: Mon Sep 20 03:48:20 2004 By: Rob
Subject: Are Way Any Closer To DVD?

Dear Guys:
Are we any closer to a release date on the DVD here in US?

Message: 35656 Posted: Mon Sep 20 03:05:54 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Mystery Girl

SteveL: Steve I have always enjoyed listening to "You Girl" off the "View From The Ground" LP, particularly when the female singer joins in. The only female acknowledged under "VOCALS" on the back cover is...Sara Taylor. I couldn't find any mention of her in the albums links. Is she the singer on that track? I think her voice has such a haunting style that lingers on long after the song finishes.

I went into Amazon and found one listing for a Sara Taylor which stated that she had released a CD-Single in 1994 with Rhino Records. A and B sides were both written by Taylor/Mumy (I am assuming Sara Taylor and Bill Mumy) called "I've Got Some Presents For Santa" / "Holiday Affair". Is this the same Sara Taylor?
The reviews pastes the CD as a fairly raunchy, novelty Xmas song meant for your average end-of-year office Christmas party.

To my recollection this is the only America song where a female singer has a "solo" piece in a song. I know that in other albums, such as "Hearts", the band has wonderful female back-up singers - Venetta Fields, Clydie King and Jessica Smith but in "You Girl" the female singer, to me, takes a much prominent part in the song.

Just a side piece, Venetta Fields came to Australia for many years after "Hearts" where she became the central back-up singer for John Farnham (ex-Little River Band) and did extremely well for herself. If my memory serves me correct, I think she even had her own CD released during that time. She was very well liked.

Thanks again, Bluey.

Message: 35655 Posted: Mon Sep 20 02:27:09 2004 By: thommo
Subject: Re: tribute to Harry Nilsson

Thanks Harry
Found it through Amazon

Message: 35654 Posted: Sun Sep 19 15:23:00 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: VFTHWPics ~ Topeka Show ~ Holiday & some more!

Hi hoooo Everyone :) ~~ A Nice Blue Sky Crisp Sunday here! The weatherman says that there is a chance of Frost tonight here, there is a hint of color coming out of the trees! :) ~~A Beautiful day to head out for a show huh Red! Have fun ~Sing along with my fave Boys of Summer Okay! :);)

Hi there Jenny ~~~ WOW Your Review sure brought an Ear to Ear Smile my way! I also got those spinetingling chills, cause I sure can relate to the way seeing AMERICA makes you feel again and again. Thanks for sharing the Playlist with us, and sooo Great you getting to meet them after the show. Thanks for asking them the BIG Wondering of Us all here, When will we be able to get this DVD? and sooo neat that they said they have a couple cuts of new songs completed.. WOW Triple Wowsers! ~~Keep on enjoying your AMERICA Cloud 10 High and come back and Post somemore, always Nice to hear from You! :)Hmmm ~~~ Hooked as their next cd H name ~~ yep makes sense, we all have been Hooked on their music for a Lonnnnng Time! :)

Hi there Cindy FTS ~~ Thanks for the wishful hopes sent my way... Yeppers what a Weekend this Would be for sure! :) Only 12 days to go!

Hi Gen :) ~~ Sorry to hear you are not feeling soo good, thanks for sharing this neat HOLIDAY album mention in your music magazine! WOW sooo nice to hear these Early day Gems mentioned still! Take care and Hope you are feeling better soon. :)

Cheers thommo, Jimmmmbob, & Goanna ~~ Welcome aboard thommo, yes just like Harry O mentioned Gerry, Robert & Carl did a version of Harry Nielson's song "Without Her" their version of this song is rather Unique sounding for sure! ~~ Nice to hear that you all are enjoying the Sydney Live DVD and that you were lucky enough to take in a show while they were there last January too! Hit the replay again for me okay! ~~ Hey there Jimmmbob ~~ soooo great to hear you ordered your dvd... please be sure and let us know your thoughts on it when you get it... Wow, this time you get to hear it before me... Lucky U! ;)

Thanks SteveL ~~ For letting us know about your email to Tom Peek, this has to be a hard time for Dan & his wife, not knowing all about their friends and this destruction to their homes there on Cayman Island. I Hope all will be well!

Hey there Nancy M~~ Too much about your fuzzy slippers, and you have 2 pairs.. I don't have any fuzzy slippers, I used to have a rainbow stripped pair, that I wore to the hospital when I had my kids... that was the only time I wore those slippers too... I had to walk the halls alot when I had my daughter.. and I got quite the looks at my brightly colored sleepers LOL!!! :) ~~~Hmmm I too want My DVD!!!!

Gerry last but not least ~~I loved the Bluer than Blue Skies that were in your VFTHW Pics ~~Nice for sure! Hmmm ~~Did you guys travel by bus from Indiana to Kansas?? If you did I bet you saw quite the nice bus window hues! ~~ I have the pic you took from Pittsburgh just the other weekend here on my comp screen, it is such a nice shot of the river there in Pittsburgh, good thing you weren't there this past friday night... there was terrible flooding all along this river! The heavy rains even made a whole Marina of Tied down boats head down the river and crashed them into one of the bridge steel under supports! I sure hope this Hurricane season comes to a silent end soon!

Take care all! See ya later for Perspective! Nancy :)

~~~ I spend the night in the chair, thinking that she'll be there, but she never comes,the I wake up and wipe the sleep from my eyes, to face another day Without Her, I Can't go onnn, I can't go onnnn, it's just no good anymore, when you walk through thedoor of an empty room, you go inside and set a table for One, it's just no fun Without Her, without her... ~~~ Sing it for us Gerry, Carl & Robert! ~~Thanks Harry O for giving me a Hankerin to hear this song! :)

Message: 35653 Posted: Sun Sep 19 11:02:07 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Listening Party - Perspective

Tonight's listening party will feature Perspective, 10PM EDT, 7PM PDT. Please join us!

Message: 35652 Posted: Sun Sep 19 10:00:13 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & DVD&something fuzzy

Thank you to those lucky enough to live Down Under for your reviews of the new DVD. It sounds absolutely fantastic! I know I hate to be a pain, but, come on...when do WE get to see the DVD?

I want my DVD...I want my DVD...I want my DVD!!!

Red, have a great time at Henley's show!

Mo, which fuzzies should I cat slippers or the leopard ones??? (The cat ones meow...really!)

Message: 35651 Posted: Sun Sep 19 08:16:48 2004 By: HarryO
Subject: Re: tribute to Harry Nilsson

He might be referring to the CD, "For the Love of Harry: Everybody Sings Nilsson". It features Gerry Beckley, Robert Lamm, and Carl Wilson performing the Nilsson song, "Without Her". This song also appears on the Beckley-Lamm-Wilson CD, "Like a Brother".

Message: 35650 Posted: Sun Sep 19 08:00:58 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics &

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 19, 2004

70 years ago - Beatles manager Brian Epstein is born. (1934)

61 years ago - Cass Elliot, vocalist for the Mamas & Papas is born. (1943)

46 years ago - Elvis Presley leaves a Brooklyn naval base to sail to Germany, where he'll hook up with his army unit. (1958)

40 years ago - The Rolling Stones' "It's All Over Now" peaks at #26 on the pop chart. (1964)

38 years ago - The Lovin' Spoonful's fifth hit single and first Number One pop hit, "Summer in the City," wins the New york based group their first gold record. (1966)

36 years ago - Steppenwolf earns its first gold disc with "Born to be Wild." (1968)

34 years ago - The Grateful Dead's "Uncle John's Band" peaks at #69 on the pop singles chart. (1970)

34 years ago - Neil Young's "After the Gold Rush" enters the album charts, as does The Moody Blues' "A Question of Balance." (1970)

34 years ago - The Rolling Stones release "Get Yer Ya Ya's Out." (1970)

31 years ago - Gram Parsons of the Byrds and Flying Burritos, dies under mysterious conditions in Joshua Tree, California. His death at first is attributed to heart failure but later is officially announced as due to a drug overdose. His coffin is stolen by two of his associates, manager Phil Kaufman and Michael Martin, a former Byrds roadie, and it's taken to Joshua Tree where it's set afire. The two are picked up by police. Gram Parsons was 26. (1973)

30 years ago - Max Weinberg makes his debut as drummer in Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band at the Main Point in Philadelphia. (1974)

30 years ago - Bad Company's self-titled debut album turns gold. The #1 album gives the group their first hit, the top five, "Can't Get Enough." (1974)

30 years ago - Eric Clapton gets a gold disk for "I Shot The Sheriff." (1974)

29 years ago - Dickie Goodman, who is the master of the novelty "break in" record, in which he uses excerpts from current hits into a story, earns his one and only gold record for "Mr. Jaws." (1975)

28 years ago - Promoter Sid Bernstein, the one responsible for handling the Beatles' 1965 and '66 Shea Stadium shows, takes out a full page advertisement in the New York Times extending his hopes of reuniting the Fab Four for a concert. While labeling the would-be event a "symbol of hope" that would offer to solace to a world "so hopelessly divided" he takes care to point out that revenues could reach $230 million. (1976)

26 years ago - Linda Ronstadt's latest effort, "Living in the U.S.A." is released with an intital shipment of two million units or, as music industry parliance would have it, the album "ships double platinum." (1978)

25 years ago - The New York Post runs a front-page headline reading "The Beatles Are Back!" and reports that a rumored reunion benefit for the Kampuchean boat people has been officially set. One source quote Paul McCartney as saying that "if the Beatles ever did reform, we'd have to rehearse for six months." The reunion, of course, never does take place. (1979)

25 years ago - The first of the MUSE - Musicians United for Safe Energy, but better known as "No-Nukes" - concerts is held in New York. Performers include Jackson Browne, Bruce Springsteen and James Taylor. (1979)

23 years ago - Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel perform before 400,000 fans in New York's Central Park. It was a 22-song set which opened with "Mrs. Robinson." The event was recorded and released as "The Concert in Central Park" and filmed for an HBO cable special. (1981)

18 years ago - Paul McCartney's "Press To Play" LP is released. (1986)

17 years ago - John Mellencamp's "The Lonesome Jubilee" enters the album charts. The multi- platinum LP contains two top-10 hits: "Paper In Fire" and "Cherry Bomb." (1987)

17 years ago - John Mellencamp, Neil Young, Joe Walsh, Willie Nelson and others perform at Farm Aid at the University of Nebraska's Memorial Stadium. (1987)

17 years ago - Pink Floyd releases their "A Momentary Lapse Of Reason" LP. It's the group's first post-Roger Waters album. (1987)

12 years ago - Elton John's "The One" is released. (1992)


Simon & Garfunkel - Homeward Bound

I'm sittin' in the railway station
Got a ticket for my destination
On a tour of one night stands
My suitcase and guitar in hand
And every stop is neatly planned
For a poet and a one man band

Homeward bound
I wish I was
Homeward bound
Home, where my thought's escaping
Home, where my music's playing
Home, where my love lies waiting
Silently for me

Everyday's an endless stream
Of cigarettes and magazines
And each town looks the same to me
The movies and the factories
And every stranger's face I see
Reminds me that I long to be

Homeward bound
I wish I was
Homeward bound
Home, where my thought's escaping
Home, where my music's playing
Home, where my love lies waiting
Silently for me

Tonight I'll sing my songs again
I'll play the game and pretend
But all my words come back to me
In shades of mediocrity
Like emptyness in harmony
I need someone to comfort me

Homeward bound
I wish I was
Homeward bound
Home, where my thought's escaping
Home, where my music's playing
Home, where my love lies waiting
Silently for me
Silently for me
Silently for me


The Company Commander and the 1st Sgt, were in the field. As they hit the sack for the night, the 1SG said: "Sir, look up into the sky and tell me what you see."

The CO said "I see millions of stars."

1st Sgt.: "And what does that tell you, sir?"

CO: Astronomically, it tells me that there are millions of galaxies and potentially billions of planets. Theologically, it tells me that God is great and that we are small and insignificant.

Meteorologically, it tells me that we will have a beautiful day tomorrow. What does it tell you, Top?"

1st Sgt.: "Well sir, it tells me that somebody stole our tent."


Well, I'm not Homeward Bound, but, Springfield Bound. Will see the great Don Henley in concert at Southwest Missouri State tonight.

Take care all........

Red Oak

Message: 35649 Posted: Sun Sep 19 05:39:26 2004 By: thommo
Subject: DVD

Have just received my copy of the Opera House DVD.

The concert is great and much the same as the live one I saw in Wollongong but I really enjoyed the interview section - a great history of the group.

Message: 35648 Posted: Sun Sep 19 05:34:58 2004 By: thommo
Subject: tribute to Harry Nilsson

On the Opera House DVD there is an interview with Glenn A Baker. In the interview they mention work done on a Harry Nilsson tribute. Is there a CD available of this or was it a one off concert/

Message: 35647 Posted: Sun Sep 19 04:16:49 2004 By: Genevieve
Subject: Holiday!

Hi everyone!

Just wanted to share this:
One of France's biggest rock music magazine LES INROCKS in their (special issue) 50 years of Rock volume 3 have added a section entitled 'LES 40 RUGISSANTS' ( rugissant= roaring - they tend to overuse those historical refs!! haha) which lists 40 of the very best albums of the 70's... and which includes America's HOLIIDAY !!! The sweetest things are said about this atemporal album actually, and mention is made of Gerry's "plume délicate" (delicate writing) and of Sir George's enormous production job ...
No wonder this made me walk on air a lil while despite the awful sickness I've been fighting for a few days.
Maybe, if some of you here are interested to know who else is on the list, i will try to scan the pages...
Have a great sunday.


Message: 35646 Posted: Sat Sep 18 20:57:49 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Homecoming

Mark M,

I second that motion! "Homecoming" alone could be their "ticket" to their deserved placement in the R&RHOF. I've always considered that to be the trio's definitive effort and the crown jewel in their already impressive body of work. It is unfortunate that the so called "hip" music critics are hell bent on tarnishing the group's contributions in their genre and legacy. Hopefully, someday they will see the light...and perhaps then a nostalgic review of their work will garner them their deserved spot in the R&RHOF.


Message: 35645 Posted: Sat Sep 18 20:15:36 2004 By: Goanna
Subject: Sydney Opera House DVD

Hi guy's,

Just a quick one,,,, if you intend to play the DVD on a normal TV & DVD combo routine like most of us do, try hooking up your stereo systems to the DVD player as well (I'm sure most of you already do this) the sound quality of the concert is 1000% better than going through the TV speakers. I've just finished watching it again, fantastic... Sandman rendition, you couldn't get much better!!!

Message: 35644 Posted: Sat Sep 18 18:06:18 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Homecoming

I was at a local music store brousing as usual a couple nights ago...and there in the "America" section was a copy of the "Homecoming DVD audio". I didn't have the $$$ to buy it at the time, but went back today, hoping it would still be there...and it was ! So I bought it !
Got home, threw it into the "DVD PLAYER" and enjoyed it very much. A little pricey, but worth it for a good collectors peice. The sound is great !!
At the end of the booklet inside it says: "After 30 years gerry and Dewey remain together, touring actively and recording. Born of youthful inspiration, their group has proved remarkably enduring and creativly vital".
If that is not R&RHOF material, than what is ??
Mark M

Message: 35643 Posted: Sat Sep 18 17:44:39 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: Topeka show

Jenny, what a great review! It sounds as if you had a fantastic time. Aren't Gerry and Dewey just two great guys (and sooo good looking, too)? It's been 2 months since my last show and I just can't wait for Oct. 2nd! Too bad no word of the DVD release here, but it does sound promising that we came expect some new music in the near future. Thanks again for the review!

Message: 35642 Posted: Sat Sep 18 16:04:06 2004 By: Jenny
Subject: Topeka show

In response to your post, I made it to the Topeka show last Thursday. Here are the details plus a it my America fanatomy (please humor my indulgence, I am still on cloud nine with one of those ear-to-ear smiles)

Thursday, I left work at 5:00 and set out on the 90 minute drive from St. Joseph, MO to Topeka. A friend from my high school days who had never been to an America concert joined me. Little did she know what she was about to experience. Let's just say that we can safely add one (or two) to the continually growing list of followers. Her husband will undoubtedly be exposed to their music now, so it will be only a matter of time before he's ready to join us---hopefully by the next time they are in the area.

The Topeka Performing Arts Center (TPAC) is a wonderful venue; a relatively new, kind of a bowl shaped theater with plush, padded seats and carpeted floors, I don't think there was a bad seat in the house. However, we were lucky enough to have second row seats (unlucky enough to be seated behind a rather tall gentleman, but that didn't prevent me from having a good time--I think Gerry caught me leaning a couple of times to get a better view---he flashed his trademark smile). Before the show, it was requested that there be no flash photography, so I kicked back to enjoy the show. (Sadly, no photos to share this time).

It had been just over a year since my last America concert (Perry, IA) and I was anxiously awaiting the opportunity to hear Nowhere Man and Last Unicorn live. I check the chat folder regularly for the latest news, so I knew these songs had been on recent setlists. I have been to 20 or so of their concerts over the last 30 years and never tire of the standards, but it's great to hear new additions.

The reviews couldn't prepare me for the real thing. The crowd really responded to Nowhere Man and I got chills when they performed Last Unicorn. My solo whistle punctuated the close of the song---it came impulsively---a knee jerk reaction to my excitement, perfected through years of holding Chiefs season tickets. I would dearly love to know what Gerry leaned over and said to Rich almost immediately afterwards---I hope he wasn't offended, I meant no disrespect, it was just an acknowledgement of my pleasure.

Though it wasn't a packed house, I was pleasantly surprised by the crowd response as they joined in clapping and singing to several songs. I was pumped from the start and my enthusiasm may have spread---I'd like to think so. The guy's seemed to be enjoying themselves; they did appear a little more jovial than sometimes and handsome and fit as ever. Is there something that they know that we don't?

It wasn't the kind of place where everyone stands the entire show, so I sat on the edge of my seat through all of the hits, singing the words we've memorized Each time I hear these songs performed live I can't help the flood of emotion that results (my tears well up on the ballads and they all make me feel alive). If pressed, I would probably have to say that Ventura Highway is my all-time favorite song played at their concerts, with I Need You a close second. Lately, Never Be Lonely will get my toe tapping every time. No, we weren't lucky enough to catch Gerry sing All My Life, maybe next time.

As far as the setlist goes, it wasn't the "long" version and the order may be shuffled, but here's what I remember.

Ventura Highway
You Can Do Magic
Don't Cross the River
Daisy Jane
Last Unicorn
I Need You
Nowhere Man
Tin Man
The Border
Woman Tonight
Only In Your Heart
California Dreamin'
Lonely People
Never Be Lonely
Sister Golden Hair

Encore: Horse With No Name (they almost forgot it ;0)

My friend and I were each fortunate to get a pick (mine-Gerry's, hers-Dewey's). Thanks Pete.

After the show, Gerry & Dewey were gracious enough to sign autographs in the lobby for anyone willing to hang around. I had brought a tour program from around 1977 (just D&G on cover). When it came my turn, Dewey noted the nice condition of it and asked if I would like him to sign my name on the autograph which I gladly told him my name and he proceeded to autograph "Jenny-Best Wishes.... As he signed the program, I gave him a little background, how much I enjoy their music and how it was that I had become such a fan.

It had all started with a poetry assignment my junior year ('76) to pick an album and "disect" the lyrics to learn about songwriting. I picked History and that was the start of an amazing journey. I was hooked (maybe that's title for their next album). As Dewey finished with my program, he made a point to say "Thanks, Jenny" and shook my hand. That was a very thrilling moment for me and a confirmation of what we all know.....these guys are the best! Thanks, Dewey!!!!!!!

As Dewey was handing the program to Gerry, I asked if there was any word on the US release (that's all I said but he knew what I was asking) and Dewey said "good question" almost as if it is not something in their control and added "no" (he didn't ellaborate and I didn't push).

Gerry then said "Hi, Jenny" and began his autograph. I asked him if there was any truth to the rumor that they were working on some new material. He said "Yes", that they had some tracks, but gave no indication of how soon we could expect a release. I told him that I would save room on my iPod but I was turning to make way for the next in line, so I never saw his response. I hope we won't have to wait too long, I'm looking forward to hearing what they've been working on. Thanks, Gerry!!!!!!!

Message: 35641 Posted: Sat Sep 18 15:04:22 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: Re: O.T. Brenda Lee/dvd

Hey thanks guys for all that info. I was a bit hasty in saying Ive not heard of Brenda Lee; I have, tho I had no idea she was as 'big' as she is. I ordered my copy of the dvd yesterday- it is released here on the 7th of next month. Cant wait!

Message: 35640 Posted: Sat Sep 18 14:14:43 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Generosity.

I think all great song writters have great songs that they never record themselves. Im also a big "McCartney" fan, and I am always finding great songs written by him, that he never recorded himself.
I have just recently got a recording of "The Everly brothers" song "On the wings of a nightingale". Another great "McCartney" tune that I wish he would record himself.
Mark M

Message: 35639 Posted: Sat Sep 18 13:14:33 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - Topeka

Click here to see the view from Gerry's hotel window in Topeka, KS. FYI - Gerry sent this to me two days ago but it didn't arrive in my inbox until a few minute ago. Better late than never, I guess.

Message: 35638 Posted: Sat Sep 18 12:01:45 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: More America "Tall Treasures" For Sale

More of my America memorabilia for sale (plus actual shipping cost). All items are in good condition:


"A Horse With No Name" (green cover with a B&W photo on the front with the trio standing in front of a huge water fountain which was probably taken in London)

"Amber Cascades" (white cover with a very colorful front photo of the trio posing in a doorway)

"Daisy Jane" (red cover with B&W photo on the front with the trio posing in fencing garb. L to R: Dewey, Dan, Gerry)

"Tin Man" (red cover with a B&W photo on the front with a scene from the front cover of the "Holiday" LP but with a different pose. Top right corner has a 'dog ear')

"Only In Your Heart" (orange cover with a B&W photo of the trio on the front. A photo that I haven't seen elsewhere. Probably taken during the time period of their first LP)

LARGE "Homecoming" PROMOTIONAL POSTER, $20. Measures 4 feet wide and 2 feet tall! It's the same scene from the front cover of the "Homecoming" LP but with the tri-fold opened. On the bottom of each trio member's picture is printed their name in black. This poster has been stored folded since 1972/1973 and has never been displayed; therefore, it has no pinholes in any of its corners.

AMERICA LPS FROM TAWAIN, $8 each (These unique releases have their Asian labels on the records. Each one has oriental writing on the label. These releases are very unique being that the album covers are much like the paper sleeves found inside the album covers of releases from the US except they are covered with a sealed thin plastic. The albums are America's self-titled LP, "Homecoming" and "Harbor". Because the covers are so thin, some may have the LP protruding slightly through one edge of the cover. The first LP and "Harbor" have a dark yellow label. "Homecoming" has a red label. The front cover of the "Harbor" LP is the same color photo of the trio as the album sleeve of the US release. Each of the LP's back cover is in B&W. The back of the "Homecoming" one has the trio standing in silhouette with two horses also in silhoutte behind them.

FACTORY SEALED 8 TRACK TAPES, $9.95 each (have never been opened):

"Hat Trick" "Hideaway" "Hearts". The "Hearts" one is in quad sound.

SONGBOOKS, $10. Still have a number of "Hearts" songbooks and one "Hideaway" songbook. These babies are MINT!!! Have never had the pages turned back.

AMERICA BRASS BELT BUCKLE, $95. It is in excellent condition! At one time I had nine of these suckers!

JAYHAWKS CDs: "Hollywood Town Hall" $8.95, "Sound Of Lies", $6.95.

Message: 35637 Posted: Sat Sep 18 11:54:15 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Timber

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 18, 2004

47 years ago - CBS-TV premieres "The Big Record," a record hop style show. Patti Page is the host and her guests include Sal Mineo, Billy Ward & the Dominos and Tony Bennett. (1957)

39 years ago - The Turtles' remake of Dylan's "It Ain't Me Babe" peaks at #8 on the singles chart. (1965)

34 years ago - Jimi Hendrix dies in his London apartment. The death certificate lists the cause as "inhalation of vomit due to barbituate intoxication." Later, insufficient evidence leads to an open verdict on his demise. Nonetheless, some contend that if Hendrix had been put into an upright position rather than left lying on his back, he might not have suffocated. (1970)

33 years ago - The Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again" peaks at #15 on the singles chart, while the album from which it came, "Who's Next" peaks at #4. (1971)

33 years ago - Pink Floyd, who'd toyed with classical music elements throughout their career, become the first rock group to appear at the Classical Music Gestival in Montreaux, Switzerland. The quartet performs its symphonic work "Atom Heart Mother." (1971)

32 years ago - The Who headlines the day long Rock At The Oval festival in London. Also on the bill are The Faces and Mott The Hoople. (1972)

30 years ago - John Lennon appears as a guest D.J. on New York radio station WNEW-FM. (1974)

29 years ago - Veteran Detroit soul group the Spinners earn another of their many gold albums. This one is for the album, "Pick of the Litter," which contains the song "Games People Play" which will eventually play itself up to #5 on the pop chart. (1975)

28 years ago - The second annual Don Kirshner produced Rock Music Awards runs on CBS. Winners inlcude Fleetwood Mac for Best Group and Best Album and Peter Frampton as Rock Personality of the Year. (1976)

28 years ago - Boston's "More Than A Feeling" is released. (1976)

28 years ago - Fleetwood Mac's "Say You Love Me" peaks at #11 on the singles chart, while James Taylor's "Shower The People" peaks at #22. (1976)

24 years ago - The two-day festival for Jimi Hendrix starts at the Paradise Club in Amsterdam. Over 1,100 fans show up each night to see Hendrix films and performances by the Noel Redding Band, with whom fellow Experience member Mitch Mitchell makes a guest appearance. The memorial show is sponsored by Amsterdam's Hendrix Information Center. (1980)

23 years ago - More than a decade after Jim Morrison's death, Doors-mania is greater than ever as the Doors' "Greatest Hits" goes platinum on this date. (1981)

23 years ago - The Who's "Face Dances" LP goes platinum. (1981)

22 years ago - The Clash's "Should I Stay Or Should I Go?" peaks at #45 on the singles chart, while Asia's "Only Time Will Tell" peaks at #17 and Eddie Money's "I Think I'm In Love" peaks at #16. (1982)

22 years ago - Joe Jackson's "Night And Day" LP enters the chart. It features the hit, "Steppin' Out." (1982)

21 years ago - The members of KISS appear on MTV without their makeup. (1983)

7 years ago - Five days they are to begin their "Bridges To Babylon" tour, The Rolling Stones play a club show at Chicago's Double Door club. 400 people, including The Smashing Pumpkins lead singer Billy Corgan, paid 7 bucks to see the Stones play a 12 song, hour-and-a-half set. The set consisted of mainly Stones classics with 2 new songs and and old blues number mixed in. (1997)


Boston - More Than A Feeling

I looked out this morning and the sun was gone
Turned on some music to start my day
I lost myself in a familiar song
I closed my eyes and I slipped away

It's more than a feeling, when I hear that old song they used to play (more than a feeling)
I begin dreaming (more than a feeling)
'Till I see Marianne walk away
I see my Marianne walkin' away

So many people have come and gone
Their faces fade as the years go by
Yet I still recall as I wander on
As clear as the sun in the summer sky

It's more than a feeling, when I hear that old song they used to play (more than a feeling)
I begin dreaming (more than a feeling)
'Till I see Marianne walk away
I see my Marianne walkin' away

When I'm tired and thinking cold
I hide in my music, forget the day
And dream of a girl I used to know
I closed my eyes and she slipped away
She slipped awa y. She slipped away.

It's more than a feeling, when I hear that old song they used to play (more than a feeling)
I begin dreaming (more than a feeling)
'Till I see Marianne walk away
I see my Marianne walkin' away


A lady from California purchased a piece of timber land in Oregon. There was a large tree on one of the highest points in the tract. She wanted to get a good view of her land so she started to climb the big tree. As she neared the top,she encountered a spotted owl that attacked her.

In her haste to escape, the lady slid down the tree to the ground and got many splinters in her private parts. In considerable pain, she hurried to the nearest doctor. He listened to her story then told her to go into the examining room and he would see if he could help her.She sat and waited for three hours before the doctor reappeared.

The angry lady demanded " What took you so long?" and he replied "Well, I had to get permits from the Environmental Protection Agency, the Forest Service, and the Bureau of Land Management before I could remove old-growth timber from a recreational area."


Have a great weekend all.......

Red Oak

Message: 35636 Posted: Sat Sep 18 10:34:32 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Dan And The Hurricane

I wrote to Tom Peek asking about Dan and the hurricane that devestated the Cayman Islands. Here's his reply:

"Dan was not present on Grand Cayman during the hurricane. He has been trying to get information about damage that may have been suffered by his friends and neighbors on the island, but communications have been slow in coming."

Message: 35635 Posted: Sat Sep 18 10:32:27 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - Fort Wayne

Click here to see the view from Gerry's hotel window in Fort Wayne, IN.

Message: 35634 Posted: Sat Sep 18 10:01:17 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: OT TEA show

Matt, Bryce and Ryland really ROCKED last night! Their new ep is up for listening on their page.

Message: 35633 Posted: Sat Sep 18 09:14:42 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: America B&W Warner Brothers Poster For Sale

Like Bruce, I'm offering my America poster for sale. It's in good condition. It does have a water stain on the top left corner but it's not noticeable (except on a very small portion of the white door frame) since that area of the poster is black. In that same corner, there is some slight wear on the top edge. I have had it stored rolled and it will be shipped rolled in a round shipping tube. If framed, it will easily unroll and the edge with the wear will not be noticeable. I will include a free "Human Nature" poster as well. The trio poster is made of much heavier gauge paper than the "HN" poster.

Price: $20.00 plus the actual shipping cost

Message: 35632 Posted: Sat Sep 18 08:59:04 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Generosity.

Even if other artisists ARE performing Gerry's work, it does not preclude him from releasing his version. Jeff Larson does a great job with Gerry's work ( as well as writing some great stuf himself) so it's all good!

Message: 35631 Posted: Sat Sep 18 06:26:53 2004 By: Cindy
Subject: Re: VFTHW ~St Loius & Help Me Out Here & some more

Hi Nancy,

Sure hope you can come to Birchmere with Mo. It's going to be a fabulous weekend!


Message: 35630 Posted: Sat Sep 18 06:18:36 2004 By: Cindy
Subject: Re: Help Me Out Here


Let me think...what is it, what is it...something I know. I'll get back to you!


Message: 35629 Posted: Sat Sep 18 06:03:57 2004 By: Joanie
Subject: St. Louis Show

Now that was a fun show! Great choice of "rockin'" songs, true entertainment by some slim guys. I loved that observation, Gerry. St. Louis looks forward to more frequent visits. God bless your day, and THANK YOU. Joanie in St. Louis

Message: 35628 Posted: Fri Sep 17 21:54:26 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Generosity.

Kevin, I was typing my response at the same time you were typing yours. It sounds like we're pretty much in agreement that Gerry has many great songs just waiting to be heard.

Message: 35627 Posted: Fri Sep 17 21:52:32 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Live at the Sydney Opera House DVD

Yes, David, a computer or player that accepts all regions should be able to play it. But you sometimes have to make special software patches to your computer to make it region free.

Message: 35626 Posted: Fri Sep 17 21:50:26 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Jeff Larson's Sepia

David, I think that one reason Gerry has other people perform his songs is that he has so many of them stored away, he doesn't have time to get them all released. I'm glad that we get to hear them through whatever means possible. I think there are also some songs that don't fit the "America" style so he either has to have them done by someone else (Jeff is a great one to do them) or wait until he comes out with another solo album which we don't know when that will happen (was that a coherent sentence???).

Message: 35625 Posted: Fri Sep 17 21:49:03 2004 By: KevinS.
Subject: Generosity.

I think Gerry Beckley "gives" his songs to other artists because he has so many great ones. I mean, how much oil can an Arab have?

Why let these great songs lie around the house collecting dust?

The other thing (and I'm sure you know this) is that he's not really "giving" them away. He does get royalties.

I suspect Gerry Beckley has enough songs in the can to last a couple of lifetimes.

Like you, David, I'd sure love to hear them.


Message: 35624 Posted: Fri Sep 17 21:13:59 2004 By: David S
Subject: Live at the Sydney Opera House DVD

If you have a multi-region DVD player, or a computer that accepts all regions, won't it be able to play the above DVD?

Message: 35623 Posted: Fri Sep 17 21:10:34 2004 By: David S
Subject: Jeff Larson's Sepia

I finally got a copy of the above CD (a friend got it for me during a trip to Japan), and you know what I'm wondering? . . . Why is Gerry Beckley so generous that he gives his songs away to other artists?!? That song, "Cryin'", is sooooo good. I wish GB would save some songs for himself so he could release it on a new America or solo album.

Message: 35622 Posted: Fri Sep 17 18:22:49 2004 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Inductees

Mark - thanks for all of that typing...Ok - The Four Tops, The Righteous Brothers, Al Green, Mama and the Papas, Earth Wind and Fire, James Taylor all hit makers but certainly no better than America. And America certainly put out several albums/CDs where the hits were not the only songs that got air play. Please Holiday could have had five or six hits and albums like Alibi and Hourglass are lost treasures. Survival, Might be your Love, Hangover, Young Moon Hope and Garden of Peace are awesome songs...Please if these groups are in America belongs there - Did I miss it or no Chicago too?

Message: 35621 Posted: Fri Sep 17 16:27:27 2004 By: red oak
Subject: Re: This Day In Rock And Roll History

Thank you Steve for filling in on the history part. I was preoccupied driving to Wichita from Denver. God, it's HOT here in Wichita!!!!!! Thank you Lord for A/C. Anyway, on with the show.

The Doors - Light My Fire

You know that it would be untrue
You know that I would be a liar
If I was to say to you
Girl, we couldn't get much higher

Come on baby, light my fire
Come on baby, light my fire
Try to set the night on fire

The time to hesitate is through
No time to wallow in the mire
Try now we can only lose
And our love become a funeral pyre

Come on baby, light my fire
Come on baby, light my fire
Try to set the night on fire, yeah

The time to hesitate is through
No time to wallow in the mire
Try now we can only lose
And our love become a funeral pyre

Come on baby, light my fire
Come on baby, light my fire
Try to set the night on fire, yeah

You know that it would be untrue
You know that I would be a liar
If I was to say to you
Girl, we couldn't get much higher

Come on baby, light my fire
Come on baby, light my fire
Try to set the night on fire
Try to set the night on fire
Try to set the night on fire
Try to set the night on fire


Mornin', my little Bible Study,

April and I get a kick out of discussing the Bible. We were
pondering the creation story and the first family. If it was
only Adam and Eve's kids, then, if you think about it, they
would have had to have sex with each other to make the
earth populated.

April said, "I told you the Garden of Eden was in Alabama."


TGIF everyone a little late.

Tx for missing me.

Red Oak

Message: 35620 Posted: Fri Sep 17 15:11:32 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Friday AM Jam

"Traveling Wiburys vol.1"

Message: 35619 Posted: Fri Sep 17 13:32:59 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: VFTHW ~St Loius & Help Me Out Here & some more

Hi everyone ~ TGIF :) ~~Yeppers Steve L, I missed Red's Post... hmmm right about now, he should be at his daugters house, he and his Mrs Red hit the road for a get away weekend, they will all head to see Don Henley in Springfield, Mo on Sunday! ~~ He will be Smiling for sure! ~~ He had asked me if I would post the History stuff while he was gone, but I told him, it just wouldn't be the same as him posting! ~~ Thanks for posting the history stuff & the VFTHW pic, what a Nice surprise pic, for sure!

Hey there Gerry, Soooo Nice to see you there Looking Right Back at Us! ~ Thanks for the ear to ear Smile you brought to My ooooh sooo rainy Friday! Upon seeing you in that window, the song Right Back To Me came to my mind... I have always loved that song!

Hmmm My Friday Jam was also the Difinitive AMERICA cd... I had to hit replay on Rainbow song at least 4 times... I also have been listening to My Jeff Larson "Sepia" CD this past week... Love to hit the replay button on it for sure... Oh Mr Mailmain brought my Dirty Dancing DVD last week, and I think that this rainy friday night is just perfect to pop it in and give it a couple replays... :)

Oh Yes Mo ~~~ I too recall there being 2 shows at the Birchmere somewhere around October 1st and 2nd, I sure hope my Dream comes true and that I will be heading there with You after all! ~~Look Out what weekend this will be! :) :) :)

Okay gotta go get supper ready... take care all and enjoy your weekend! See ya, Nancy :) ~~Have Fun Red~ Come back home soon! :) ;) I hope the full Mr Moon can be seen from your hotel window this weekend! :)

Ohhh I almost forgot... Steve Winwood is gonna be on my PBS Soundstage show this saturday night at 10 pm... I did get to see Dan Fogelberg's Soundstage last monday morning in the wee early morning hours, my vcr never did cooperate with me... I must say I enjoyed getting to watch Dan sing alot of my faves. and I was especially smiling when he sang his Haven Postcard song... Nice Nice Nice! :)

~~~ dadadadaddda dadaadaadaddaaadaada... grew up in a small town, and when the rain would fall down, I'd just stare out my window, dreamin of what could be, and if I'd end up happy, Iiii would Pray, tryin not to reach, and when I tried to speak out, felt like no one would hear me, wanted to belong here,but something felt sooo wrong, and soooo I prayed that I Could Breakaway, I'll Spread my wings and Learn How to Fly here.... Sing it for Me Kelly Clarkson :) :) ;)

Message: 35618 Posted: Fri Sep 17 12:42:01 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Help Me Out Here/VFTHW

Also don't forget your fuzzy slippers, best ghost stories, and munchies.

By the way, I'll bring the blender if someone else can bring the drink umbrellas. Anyone? Anyone?

Message: 35617 Posted: Fri Sep 17 12:10:45 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: VFTHW

Now my brain is swiss cheese! Forgot to include this in my last post. Gerry, I LOVE the view!

Message: 35616 Posted: Fri Sep 17 12:07:45 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: Help Me Out Here/VFTHW

Umm, Moser, I think we're going to see some band, uh, what is their name...wait, it'll come to me...hold on a minute...oh, yeah, AMERICA!!!!
Don't forget PJ's, nail polish, wine, etc.

Message: 35615 Posted: Fri Sep 17 12:01:43 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: VFTHW - St. Louis

Thanks, what a great view! You must be close to other building?


Message: 35614 Posted: Fri Sep 17 11:43:57 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: This Day In Rock And Roll History

Did anyone else miss reading Red Oak's post for today? I hope he's OK. Anyway, here's an abbreviated version (no song lyrics and no joke, sorry about that):

Today is September 17, 2004

54 years ago - Fee Waybil, vocalist for the Tubes, is born. (1950)

38 years ago - The Beatles' "Yellow Submarine" peaks at #2 on the chart, while The Beach Boys' "Wouldn't It Be Nice" peaks at #8 and The Hollies' "Bus Stop" peaks at #5. (1966)

38 years ago - The Byrds "Fifth Dimension" LP enters the chart. (1966)

37 years ago - The Doors perform "Light My Fire" and "People are Strange" on the "Ed Sullivan Show." Prior to the show, Sullivan asked Jim Morrison to change or omit the line "Girl, we couldn't get much higher" in "Light My Fire." Morrison sang it anyway. (1967)

37 years ago - The Who perform on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour. In a famous incident that's documented on "The Kids Are Alright," Keith Moon sets a flash explosion in his drum kit, not realizing that the crew had already done so. At the end of "My Generation" when the explosion goes off, it is so loud that it damages Pete Townshend's ears. (1967)

36 years ago - The Fifth Dimension pick up their second gold record with their rendition of Laura Nyro's "Stoned Soul Picnic." (1968)

29 years ago - British progressive rock band Pink Floyd earn their third gold record for "Wish You Were Here." (1975)

28 years ago - Ringo Starr releases his "Ringo's Rotogravure" album. (1976)

24 years ago - Bette Midler's "Divine Madness," a film of a 1979 concert in Pasadena, CA, premieres in Los Angeles. (1980)

21 years ago - The Stray Cats LP, "Rant and Rave with the Stray Cats" enters the chart. (1983)

21 years ago - Asia's "Don't Cry" peaks at #10 on the singles chart. (1983)

13 years ago - "Use Your Illusion I" and "Use Your Illusion II" are released simultaneously by Guns N' Roses at midnight. A half million copies are sold by 2am. (1991)

7 years ago - Fleetwood Mac begins their reunion tour in Hartford, Connecticut. The band is touring on the huge strength of their "The Dance" LP. (1997)

Message: 35613 Posted: Fri Sep 17 11:11:09 2004 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Friday AM Jam

This may sound strange, but I listened to the Siegfried and Roy show soundtrack. It's really good. On the way home I'm going to listen to mB.

Message: 35612 Posted: Fri Sep 17 11:09:51 2004 By: Erin
Subject: Re: VFTHW - St. Louis

Wow...what a cool shot! Thanks Gerry!

Message: 35611 Posted: Fri Sep 17 10:46:48 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: O.T. Brenda Lee 101


Although her roots are firmly planted in Country, Brenda's meteoric emergence as a rock n' roll singer in 1959 led her to become a full fledged rocker and international pop sensation, charting over a dozen top ten rock hits/ballads between 1959 (Sweet Nothins)and 1966 (Coming On Strong). This feat alone secured her a well deserved spot in the RRHOF. Everyone should know who Brenda Lee is- A living AMERICAN musical treasure...For those that may be interested, read the highlights from her life and career (taken from her website).

Brenda Lee — Her Life And Career

Brenda was born Brenda Mae Tarpley on December 11, 1944 in the charity ward of Grady Memorial Hospital (part of Emory University Hospital complex) in Atlanta, Georgia. Her mother, Grayce Yarbrough Tarpley Rainwater, today resides in Lithonia, Georgia. Her father, Ruben Lindsey Tarpley, was a carpenter and semi-professional baseball player. He was killed in a construction accident in May 1953. Brenda has two sisters and a brother. Her sisters Linda (born in 1942) and Robyn (born in 1955) and her brother Randall (born in 1949) still live in Georgia.

Brenda attended several grade schools, mostly in Georgia. She attended Maplewood High School in Nashville, Tennessee and graduated from Hollywood Professional School in California on June 12, 1963.

During a Jackie Wilson concert at the old Fairgrounds Coliseum in Nashville, Tennessee, Brenda met her future husband, Ronnie (born May 12, 1944). They were married on April 24, 1963 at Radnor Church of Christ in Nashville, Tennessee.

Brenda and Ronnie have two daughters, Julie and Jolie, and two granddaughters. Julie was born in 1964 and was married in October 1986. Jolie was born in 1969 and married in January 1993. Both granddaughters were born on November 12 - one in 1988 and the other in 1996.

A tearful ballad "My Daddy is Only a Picture" (a song recorded by Eddy Arnold in 1948).

At the age of 5 Brenda represented Conyers (Georgia) Grade School in an annual talent contest at the Spring Festival conducted among several elementary schools in the area. Brenda donned a home-made evening gown and sang "Slow Poke" or "Take Me Out To The Ballgame" (according to different sources). Brenda won first prize in the talent contest and runner-up in the beauty contest.

This competition led to an offer to sing on a regular basis on Starmakers Revue, a popular Atlanta radio show. Brenda appeared for 1 year. "Too Young" was her first number sung on the air. The sponsor of the show was Borden's Ice Cream. "They didn't pay any money for singing on the show but you could get all the ice cream you could eat," Brenda recalled.

This radio show led to a regular slot on a local TV program called TV Ranch on Atlanta's WAGA-TV. Brenda appeared each Saturday and sang with Boots Woodall and the TV Wranglers. On the first show Brenda sang "Hey Good Lookin." The audience demanded an encore and she sang "Too Young." Brenda received no money, not even ice cream.

Brenda sang in the church as a young child and at age 5 or 6 sang gospel music with the Master Worker's Quartet in Georgia.

Appearances on TV Ranch lead to her first professional paid job for Shriner's Club Luncheon for which Brenda was paid $20.

In 1955, Brenda's mother married Jay Rainwater. The family lived in Cincinnati, Ohio. Brenda began working in Jimmy Skinner's Record Shop on two Saturday programs over WNOP in Newport, Kentucky. Brenda sang the big country music hits of the day.

Later that year, the family moved to Augusta, Georgia. Brenda appeared on the Peach Blossom Special on WJAT-TV. It was while appearing on this show that the name "Brenda Lee" was created by the show's producer, Sammy Barton. He felt that Tarpley was to difficult to remember and suggested that she shorten her last name to Lee. Jay Rainwater opened a record store in Augusta and called it the Brenda Lee Record Shop. Station WRDW originated a program in the shop each week and Brenda sang on the show. Disc jockey Charlie Raiford "Peanuts" Faircloth was the announcer. Brenda composed her own theme song:

"Brother, if you want to get the lowdown,
Come along and let's all have a hoedown,
At the Brenda Lee Record Shop Saturday at 3,
On the Brenda Lee Jam-bo-reeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Brenda received no money for these shows but the exposure led to several bookings.

In February 1956, a radio station in Swansboro, Georgia asked her to be a guest on the Peach Blossom Jamboree program for $30. Brenda turned down the offer to go see one of her favorite entertainers, country music singer Red Foley. Mr. Foley was visiting Augusta with the cast of the ABC-TV show Ozark Jubilee at the Bell Auditorium. Brenda met Mr. Foley and his manager, Dub Albritten. Peanuts Faircloth asked Foley if he would let Brenda sing a song on the show. Foley agreed to put her on the show. Foley said "I still get cold chills thinking about the first time I heard that voice." Mr. Foley introduced Brenda. "One foot started patting rhythm as though she was stomping out a prairie fire but not another muscle in that little body even as much as twitched. And when she did that trick of breaking her voice, it jarred me out of my trance enough to realize I'd forgotten to get off the stage. There I stood, after 26 years of supposedly learning how to conduct myself in front of an audience, with my mouth open two miles wide and a glassy stare in my eyes." Brenda performed Jambalaya then another tune, then another, and still another. She left the stage with the crowd shouting for more. "The way I stood back and enjoyed watching her work I felt guilty for not going out to the box office and buying a ticket," said Foley.

After this show, Brenda was offered a guest spot on Foley's Ozark Jubilee. On Saturday, March 31, 1956, Brenda made her first network television appearance on the Ozark Jubilee from Springfield, Missouri. Brenda sang "Jambalaya" on the Junior Jubilee portion which featured younger talent. The producers of the show received three times the day's usual fan mail with nearly all asking to see Brenda on the show again. Also, Jack O'Brien, a New York columnist for the Journal American opened his TV review by saying that "I didn't catch the name of the 9-year-old singer on last night's Ozark Jubilee but she belts a song like a star." This led to bookings on the Perry Como Show and other national TV shows. The family moved to Springfield and Brenda became a regular on the Ozark Jubilee. Brenda appeared on the Ozark Jubilee (later Jubilee U.S.A. - by 1957) from 1956-1959 as a guest then as a regular.

On May 21, 1956, Paul Cohen, the A and R man at Decca Records, signed Brenda to a recording contract with Decca Records.

Brenda's first recording session was on July 30, 1956. She recorded seven songs that day with Paul Cohen as her producer. The songs were: "Jambalaya," "Bigelow 6-200," "Some People," "Your Cheatin' Heart," "I'm Gonna Lasso Santa Claus," "Doodle Bug Rag," and "Christy Christmas."

"Jambalaya"/"Bigelow 6-200" was released as the first single on September 17, 1956.

There was moderate chart success in early 1957 with Brenda's third release, "One Step At a Time." It climbed to #43 in the Billboard charts. The song peaked at #15 on the country charts.

The next single, "Dynamite," has importance because it gave her the nickname of "Little Miss Dynamite". . . because of her explosive stage act. The title is still used today to describe Brenda. "Dynamite" was the last chart success for the next 2-1/2 years.

In 1957, Dub Albritten became her personal manager and remained so until his death in 1972. Brenda and her family also moved to Nashville in 1957.

Brenda's first Grand Old Opry Performance was in December 1957 at the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville, Tennessee. She met Elvis Presley for the first time. One of Brenda's fondest memories is of appearing on the show with Elvis.

Owen Bradley became Brenda's record producer with the recording session of May 8, 1958. "Ring-A- My-Phone" and "The Golden Key" were recorded that day. "Little Jonah" was recorded on May 15, 1958. "Ring-A-My-Phone" and "Little Jonah" was the first single release with Bradley as producer. Bradley was Brenda's record producer for most recordings until 1976.

Brenda's first album, "Grandma What Great Songs You Sang" was released on August 3, 1958.

On August 13, 1959, Brenda recorded "Sweet Nothin's." The song was released on September 29, 1959. It peaked at #4 on the Billboard charts in late April 1960. This single became the first of many top 10 songs for Brenda. "Sweet Nothin's" was Brenda's first chart success in England climbing to #4 and the first chart success in Germany, peaking at # 34.

On March 28, 1960 Brenda recorded "I'm Sorry." The song was released on May 30, 1960. The song hit # 1 during the summer of 1960 and stayed on the Top 100 for over 6 months. "I'm Sorry" was also Brenda's first gold record selling over one million records and is her biggest selling record. The song became a huge international hit, and by the end of 1960 Brenda was an international recording artist.

On October 19, 1958, Brenda recorded "Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree." The song was released as a single but the record failed to chart in either 1958 or 1959. The song was re-released in 1960 and became a big hit this time. This song is a Christmas standard and is #4 in the Top 10 All Time Christmas Songs. It is Brenda's second biggest selling record. On June 12, 13, and 23, 1964, Brenda recorded songs for her "Merry Christmas" Album which was released on October 19, 1964. In 1991, Brenda recorded her second Christmas album for Warner Brothers Records.

In 1959, Dub Albritten decided it was time to book her on an international level. He arranged a booking in Paris, France. On February 18, 1959 Brenda opened in Paris, France at the Olympia Music Hall with Gilbert Becaud. She was originally signed for 3 weeks and was held over for another 5 weeks. The appearance almost ended before it started. Publicity pictures had been sent over and showed Brenda dressed in her typical schoolgirl clothes. The theatre kept writing asking for more recent pictures because they could not believe that such a big voice could come from such a little girl. Albritten kept writing and said that these were recent pictures. Then Dub had an idea to manufacture a story which ran in the French paper, La Figaro, that Brenda was actually a 32 year old midget. Albritten denied the story. The result was great publicity for her. La Figaro compared Brenda favorably to Judy Garland.

The response of the Paris engagement lead to more European dates in Germany, Italy, and England followed by a tour of South America. Jack Good's Oh Boy! TV show introduced Brenda to the British audience. In Brazil, she received the greatest reception ever accorded an American entertainer as she made a month-long tour with 21 performances. The tour netted 51 front page newspaper stories and features in nine magazines. Brazilian President Juscelino Kubitshek de Oliveira said she was "the best goodwill ambassador the U.S. ever had." After these tours Brenda returned to the states an international star.

On November 30, 1961, Brenda recorded her first records sung in German, ("Anybody But Me" and "Fool # 1"), Italian ("Fool # 1"), and French ("Fool # 1") in Nashville, Tennessee. On February 26, 1963, Brenda recorded four songs sung in German. The recording took place in West Germany with Bert Kampfert as producer. Brenda recorded six more songs in German on March 26, 1964 in Nashville, Tennessee. Several songs which became hits in Germany including "No My Boy," "Wiedersehn Ist Wunderschen," and "Ich Will Immer Auf Dich Warten" which became Brenda's highest charted record in Germany reaching #13 in the charts by the end of 1964.

On September 17, 1964, Brenda recorded "Is It True" and "What'd I Say" in England with Mickey Most as producer. "Is It True" was released in England and then in the States and become a very big hit and gained gold record status. "What'd I Say" was released in Europe but never in the United States.

In July 1965, Brenda conquered Japan with her first of many tours. Her first Japanese recording was recorded in Nashville, Tennessee on February 16, 1965. The song was "One Rainy Night in Tokyo" sung in English and Japanese. This song became one of Brenda's many gold records and one of many standards in Japan. On July 13, 1965, Brenda recorded three Christmas songs ("White Christmas", "Silent Night," and "Jingle Bells"), originally released on the "Merry Christmas" album, in Japan. These three songs were never released in the United States. Two live albums have been released in Japan. The first was "Live in Tokyo" in 1965 and the second one was "Live in Japan" in 1975. On October 13 and 14, 1977, Brenda recorded twelve songs in Japan which were originally released on the Japanese album "Just for You, Something Nice."

Richard Barstow was a top national choreographer and was Brenda's choreographer for many years starting in 1963 and lasting until his death in 1982. Barstow is also known for the choreography for Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly, and Judy Garland. He was the choreographer for Judy Garland in A Star Is Born. A signed picture of Richard Barstow and Judy Garland that Brenda has hanging on her wall states: "To Dear Brenda Lee Ñ A Marvelous Artist. Another "Great" in My Life. Love from Richard Barstow."

Brenda made summer stock appearances in the Wizard of Oz (1963) as Dorothy and Bye Bye Birdie (1962) as Kim. Brenda starred for 3 highly successful seasons at Opryland in Nashville, Tennessee. In the 1988 and 1989 seasons, she performed in Music, Music, Music. In the 1990 season, Brenda starred in Spirit of America. Brenda performed in 754 shows during the 3-year run, NEVER missing a show!!!!

Brenda made her film debut in the movie, Two Little Bears, in 1961 with Eddie Albert, Jane Wyatt, and Jimmy Boyd. One of Brenda's songs was "Speak To Me Pretty." This song became very popular in Great Britain and was actually her most popular UK single release, climbing to the #3 position on the charts. Strangely, the song was never released as a single in the United States.

Brenda had a small role in Smokey and the Bandit 2 and sang one song, "Again and Again," in the movie. In 1990, she recorded "You're in the Doghouse Now" for the Dick Tracy soundtrack album. The song was not included in the motion picture. Brenda sang the song daily during the Spirit of America show at Opryland. "Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree" was heard in the 1991 movie, Home Alone. "I'm Sorry" can be heard in the 1991 movie, The Fisher King, and the the 1993 movie, This Boy's Life.

• Brenda has won every pop award except the Grammy Award. She has received four Grammy nominations which include: "I'm Sorry" in 1960, "Johnny One Time" in 1970, "Tell Me What It's Like" in 1980 and "Honky Tonk Angels Medley" (with k.d. lang, Loretta Lynn, and Kitty Wells) in 1989.

• The British trade paper-New Musical Express Award for Best Female Vocalist for 5 years (1961-1965)

• Aztec Award in Mexico as "Outstanding Foreign Female Artist.

• Has received 5 Edison Awards from Holland. The Edison Award is equivalent to the Grammy Award. Brenda has won more than any other person.

• Held the title of "Most Programmed Female Vocalist" for 5 consecutive years according to Billboard and 3 consecutive years according to Cashbox.

• NARM (National Association of Record Merchandisers) Awards:

• 1960 - Most Promising Female Vocalist
• 1962 - Best Selling Female Vocalist
• 1963 - Best Selling Female Vocalist
• 1963 - Top Female Vocalist on Singles

• Other Notable Awards:

• Cashbox 1962 - Top Female Vocalist
• Music Reporter 1962 - Leading Female Vocalist
• Gold Star Award
• Melody Maker's #1 Female Vocalist (U.K.)
• Record Mirror of Great Britain - World's #1 Female Vocalist for 4 consecutive years

• Has sold over 100 million records. Brenda has sold more records than any other woman in the history of recorded music.

• Gold Records include:

1. Jambalaya
2. Sweet Nothins
3. I'm Sorry ("I'm Sorry" has sold in excess of 15 million worldwide.)
4. That's All You Gotta Do
5. I Want To Be Wanted
6. Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree ("Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" has sold over 7 million.)
7. Emotions
8. Break It To Me Gently
9. All Alone Am I
10. Losing You
11. Dum Dum
12. Coming On Strong
13. Johnny One Time
14. As Usual
15. Fool # 1
16. Too Many Rivers
17. Heart In Hand
18. Here Comes That Feelin'
19. The Crying Game
20. Big Four Poster Bed
21. Broken Trust
22. Jingle Bell Rock
23. Nobody Wins
24. Tell Me What It's Like
25. Is It True
26. Speak To Me Pretty
27. The Cowgirl And The Dandy
28. One Rainy Night In Tokyo (Japan)
29. If You Love Me (Japan)

• All of Brenda's Decca albums reached gold status.

• Gold and Platinum Albums

• Gold Album - "16 Classic Tracks" (U.K.)
• Gold and Platinum Albums - "The Very Best of Brenda Lee" (U.K.)
• Triple Gold Album - "Little Miss Dynamite" (U.K., Holland, Germany)
• Gold Album - "The Early Years" (U.K.)
• Gold Album - k.d. lang Album, "Shadowland" (Honky Tonk Angels' Medley)

• More double-sided hits than any other woman in pop music.

• Charted in more categories (including Pop/Rock, Rock, Easy Listening and Country) than any other female in the history of recorded music.

• Brenda made a Royal Command Performance before Queen Elizabeth II of England on November 2, 1964. She sang "All the Way."

• Inducted into the Georgia Hall of Fame on September 23, 1982 and received a Georgy.

• Received the prestigious Governor's Award on September 6, 1984 at Vanderbilt Plaza Hotel in Nashville, Tennessee. This award is from the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences (NARAS). Only 4 other artists had received this award before Brenda over a 20 year history of NARAS. The other award winners were: Wesley Rose, Bill Williams, Roy Acuff, and Kitty Wells. This award is given to a person who had made a contribution to the recording industry that merits recognition surpassing all other traditional awards and honors. The evening was titled appropriately "A Tribute to a Legend." The ceremonies were attended by family, friends, fans, music industry executives, and performers in country music. Each came to say "Thanks Brenda for what you have done for the entire music world and for Nashville in particular." Mayor Richard Fulton declared it Brenda Lee Day in Nashville, Tennessee. Governor Lamar Alexander proclaimed it Brenda Lee Day in the State of Tennessee. Brenda moved the audience to tears with an emotional speech following the accolades of the evening. At the end of the speech the audience rose to give her a standing ovation. The last standing ovation occurred when the show was closed with Brenda singing an incredibly emotional 18 song medley with Owen Bradley at piano.

• October 3, 1987 was declared Brenda Lee Day in Lithonia, Georgia. A street, Brenda Lee Lane, was named in her honor. Festivities included a parade with Brenda as Grand Marshall, the presentation of the street sign, declaration of Brenda Lee Day in Lithonia, and a reunion with the TV Wranglers.

• In 1990, a miniature rose was named for Brenda by the American Rose Society. The rose is yellow with pink or red edges and is smaller than other miniature roses.

• In 1977 Newsweek named the Top 20 artists of the past 20 years. Brenda was #7 behind Elvis, Beatles, Fats Domino and Rick Nelson but ahead of Connie Francis. She was also named as one of 5 American artists who best survived the coming of the Beatles and the British invasion in the 60s.

• In 1989 Brenda was nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

• Most Consecutive Top Ten Hits - #9 All Time (males & females). The only 2 females ahead of Brenda are Madonna and Whitney Houston.

• Most Charted Singles - #21 All Time (males & females). The only 3 females ahead of Brenda are Aretha Franklin, Connie Francis and Dionne Warwick.

• For the entire decade of the 1960s, Brenda is the Top Female Charted Act and 4th overall behind Elvis, the Beatles, and Ray Charles. Brenda is #27 which includes all acts since the beginning of the Billboard charts in 1955 according to Joel Whitburn's "Top Pop Singles 1955-1990" based on the Billboard charts.

• Brenda has appeared on virtually every major TV show in the United States and in foreign countries.

• On September 23, 1997, Brenda was inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame. She is the first of the baby-boomers and the youngest person to ever be presented this prestigious honor.

Brenda was on the Country Music Association's (CMA) Board of Directors for 8 years and is presently on the Board of Governors for the Nashville Chapter of the National Academy of Recording Arts and Science (NARAS).

Brenda has done charity work for practically every charitable organization including the Kidney Foundation, American Heart Association, American Lung Society, American Cancer Society, Dreammakers, Leukemia Society, Multiple Sclerosis, Cerebral Palsy, March of Dimes and YWCA for Abused Women.

May 21, 1996 marked Brenda's 40th anniversary as a recording artist and 1990 marked Brenda's 40th anniversary in show business. Brenda still lives in Nashville with her husband, Ronnie and continues to tour and perform to sell-out audiences all over the world.

Robert K. Oermann said in the Nashville Gazette: "They ought to erect a monument to her on Music Row." The late John Lennon said of Brenda: "She has the greatest rock and roll voice of them all." Anyone familiar with Brenda's music would agree with the following quote:

"Millions of people around the world have experienced
the distinctively powerful and high spirited voice
and warm personality of the living legend...Brenda Lee.
Whether on record or in person,
she touches the emotions in people."*

*From Brenda Lee . . . A History of Hits

Message: 35610 Posted: Fri Sep 17 10:33:41 2004 By: Maureen
Subject: Gerry - Happy Birthday

Hi Gerry:
Sorry this is a bit late, but better later than never. I hope you had a wonderful birthday and Happy Anniversary to you and Kathy. Again, sorry for the delay–and many, many more.

Friends come and go, but I’ll always have my AMERICA !!

Your Friend,
Maureen, LI, NY

Message: 35609 Posted: Fri Sep 17 09:34:15 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees

Lloyd Price was an R&B singer who had some hits in the US in the 50s & 60s.

Brenda Lee was a country singer in the 50's & 60's. I believe she is a member of the Country Music HOF. The way things are going, it seems like one of the goals of the RR HOF is to induct everybody in the Country Music HOF.

The Dells started out as a do-wop group in the 50s and then evolved into a farely popular soul group in the late 60's and early 70's.

IMHO with the possible exception of Brenda Lee, America was far more popular and had more of an impact on the music business than either Price or the Dells. Not knocking Price or the Dells, just saying that if they deserve to be in the HOF, then certainly America does too.

While I think Brenda Lee deserves to be in the Country Music HOF, I'm not sure she belongs in the RR HOF.

Message: 35608 Posted: Fri Sep 17 09:34:05 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - St. Louis

Click here to see the view from Gerry's hotel window in St. Louis, MO. I think you're really going to like this one!

Message: 35607 Posted: Fri Sep 17 09:22:04 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees and October 2nd.


Those acts that you mentioned, the ones "you've never heard of" were actually very popular in the 50's and early 60's here in the States. As influential as they were to Rock, they are sort of ensconced in the late 50's and early 60's time period and thats perhaps why you have not heard of them. LLoyd price wrote many songs, but he is best remembered for "Personality", and the Dells had a few Doo Wop hits, but are best remembered for their classic "Oh What a Night".

Brenda Lee was a huge world reknowned Rock-Pop star in the late 50's up until the mid 60's. She later became a country singer in the 70's and 80's. Little Miss Dynamite as she was called in her heydey is still just that...Her "Rocking Around the Christmas Tree" is still a very popular classic Yuletide tune that gets airplay every year. I for one am a big fan of Brenda Lee as I posted last year in December. See post below.

Message: 30543 Posted: Sun Dec 07 12:04:53 2003 By: Sergio
Subject: "Holiday Harmony " pops up in unusual places and Brenda Lee
Hi all,
While many of you in the Northeast are digging out of the snow, "winter" finally arrived in New Orleans too.(Daytime temperatures in the upper 40's qualifies as winter here);0)It was "chilly in Gentilly" as we New Orlenians like to say. So in the nice cool weather, my wife, daughter and I were out Christmas shopping at T.J. Maxx and to my surprise two America songs were played during our shopping stay~ "Christmas to Remember" and "Winter Holidays". Hearing the smooth acoustical arrangements made our shopping day all the better, I was proud of our guys being heard there. Unfortunately, radio stations here are not playing their Christmas songs. I've e-mailed requests and even called the request line, but nothing has persuaded them. I'll keep trying...

On an off topic subject, Friday night I got to hear some Christmas classics "live" by a living legend of Rock and Roll, and a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee, the very talented, funny and gracious Miss Brenda Lee. She infused her 90 minute concert with humor and her million selling hits, such as "I'm Sorry", "All Alone Am I" (my personal favorite), "Jambalaya", "Sweet Nothins", "Break It To Me Gently", "I want to Be Wanted" and too many others to mention. Amazingly, her body of work, 55 charted hits, has her at Joel Whitburn's list of top 500 artists at a very lofty #32 (By the way, for those who might not know, America is at #198) Miss Lee moved effortlessly and confidently from music to some very funny one liners, making fun of her age and height. She is 59, has two daughters, and has been married to the same man for 40 years. She has the distinction oh having had the Beatles open for her during her tour in England back in her days of glory. She also covered songs that were offered to her first but turned down, as she called "her missed hits", those included "Bye Bye Love" (Everly Bros.), "Here You come Again" (Dolly Parton), "Always on My Mind" (Willie Nelson) and "Who's Sorry Now" (Connie Francis). The last portion of the show was dedicated to selections from her classic Christmas album issued in 1964, and what an honor it was to see and hear her sing "Rocking Around the Christmas Tree" in person, that song has been such a part of my Christmas past. I was lucky enough to meet her after the show and she graciously signed my Christmas CD "To Sergio with Love, Brenda Lee", she even took a picture with me. All in all a very nice evening. If any of you all are still with me ;0),sorry to ramble on about such an off topic subject, but it was THE big event of my weekend and I just had to share it. "Little Miss Dynamite", Brenda Lee deserves our respect, she certainly has mine. Happy holidays,

Sir Joe


Thank you for reminding me of October 2nd. I suppose Oct 2nd, 2004, must be an America concert for you, but, oh what a significant date it is for me, one that is related to AMERICA, that is our nation. A date that will mark my 44th anniversary of having arrived in the great United States of AMERICA in a shiny four propeller Pan American Airlines DC-6B from Cuba. One of the most fate altering events of my life. I know it is not relevant or important to anyone else, but for this fortunate pilgrim it is always a bittersweet date of reflection and reckoning, a day and date I will never forget. Musically speaking, I remember my older cousins playing the popular songs of the day- "Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini" by Brian Hyland, "Stay" by Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs, "I'm Sorry" by Brenda Lee, "It's Now or Never" by Elvis, and "The Twist" by Chubby Checker. It was truly a new beginning in a new land, culture and language. Amazingly, I still have my return airline ticket, a piece of memorabilia that qualifies as an antique now. My family was only supposed to come for a two week vacation, that's what we wanted Castro's authorities to know, but we knew better, and instead my parents requested and were granted political asylum upon arrival. 44 years later, my parents now gone, I am still waiting for the Communist leadership that rules the island to exit or dissolve so that Cubans will know true freedom, and those that left long ago can once again visit without fear of retribution. Perhaps, in a few years that wish will come true, maybe even on a future October 2nd anniversary, I can close the circle and fulfill my now 44 year old dream and make Oct. 2nd a new kind of anniversary.

God bless America,


Message: 35606 Posted: Fri Sep 17 07:40:31 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: Friday AM Jam

Average White Band's 1976 effort "Soul Searchin'" which featured their single "Queen of My Soul." Next up is the recent Michael McDonald CD,"Motown".

Message: 35605 Posted: Fri Sep 17 07:32:08 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Friday AM Jam

Dan Hicks and his Hot Licks "Strike it Rich" I found this gem of a cd- a staple of my High School days- in a Borders of all places! This "no drummer" band really cooks! Anyone here ever heard of them?

Message: 35604 Posted: Fri Sep 17 04:56:49 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: Re: Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees

Mark, thanks for that list. While obviously most inductees here are worthy because of their contributions to music, there are some Ive never heard of. Lloyd Price, Brenda Lee, The Dells? I consider myself fairly 'up' on rock, pop and the like, but those names? Mustve been big in the States but maybe not elsewhere? Before the days of the web I spent lots and lots of time in bookstores reading anything I could on music and oftentimes America wouldnt even be mentioned. Yet there were bands featured that I found it difficult to fathom that they were mentioned at all.But hell, it doesnt matter, watching Gerry Beckley playing guitar, from the front row, sure puts a perspective on it! Like, he ROCKS!

Message: 35603 Posted: Fri Sep 17 04:48:28 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Help Me Out Here

I have this invitation for my son to go to a birthday party on Oct. 2nd. I wasn't sure if I was busy that cheese brain, I guess. Something keeps knocking at my brain that I'm already doing something that day. But I just can't put my finger on it. Can somebody help me out here? Is there something going on that day?

Message: 35602 Posted: Fri Sep 17 04:32:41 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: OT - Brian Wilson & Paul McCartney

I don't know about a whole CD together but I do know Paul played on a tune on Brian's new CD, Gettin' In Over My Head. Friday AM Jam would be Alice Cooper's Love It To Death.DanC.

Message: 35601 Posted: Fri Sep 17 04:29:27 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: RR HOF Inductees

As stated in the inlay of The Best of Beach Boys - Volume 2:-
Paul McCartney is quoted as saying that "God Only Knows", written by Wilson/Asher, is "the greatest song ever written"

A couple of names not mentioned in the Inductees RR HOF that I thought would have been :- Paul Anka (He also holds the record of having the widest gap between No 1 records with his first "Diana" charting No.1 in 1958 and his last No 1 "You're Having My Baby" in 1974). Neil Sedaka, Quincy Jones, Lionel Ritchie, The Commodores, The Dave Clark Five, Steve Winwood, Joe Cocker, Leon Russell, Cat Stevens, Jeff Beck, Jay and The Americans, The Turtles, The Searchers, Ringo Starr, Billy Preston - just to name a few.


Message: 35600 Posted: Fri Sep 17 04:06:10 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Friday AM Jam

The Complete Greatest Hits (as opposed to the Incomplete Greatest Hits...)

Message: 35599 Posted: Fri Sep 17 03:30:01 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Friday AM Jam

Jeff Larson

Message: 35598 Posted: Thu Sep 16 21:08:10 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: OT - Brian Wilson & Paul McCartney

I havn't heard that, but I am for sure going to check into it. I know that "Paul" loves "Brians" work, so I wouldn't dought that you were not really all doped up on coffee !!
Mark M

Message: 35597 Posted: Thu Sep 16 20:31:43 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: Struttin' Our Stuff -- Check out this new Audio CD from Germany

Hi Everyone :)

Hmmm ~~ Steve I too thought this when I looked at the playlist... there is one more song listed on this "Struttin' Our Stuff CD that wasn't on the Ohne Filter DVD and what a Hidden Surprise Gem to see put on a new CD... I am referring to "Wednesday Morning" from the Human Nature CD ~~ Hmm I just looked at my Ohne Filter DVD playlist and No Wednesday Morning listed on it... sooo I sure Hope I am reading the playlist right on this new available CD, for sure! ~ Wow ~ Thanks DavidS for sharing this with us! :)

But ~~I Still Am Wanting my Sydney Live DVD to hit the Replay button on!!!!

Wow Jen ~~Brian & Paul doing a CD together, I'll say what a Curiousity Rouser this news blurb is!

Hey Hooooo Red ~~ I just wanted to say Have a Safe trip tomorrow and enjoy your nice getaway with your Mrs. Have fun and be sure to Read all the Signs that want you to Notice them! :) ;) ~~Pretty Unique Song Lyrics you posted the last 2 days, Simply Red Shining at his Best! :) Be sure to take along some great songs to sing! :)

Sooo Much More my Fingers want to say, but my eyes are saying we want to close... and my big soft pillow is calling my name, sooo I will have to post again soon.... Nitey Nite all! Nancy :)

~~~ Iiiii've been waiting every evening, Wonderinnnn what I'm gonna say, sometimes Life can be decievinnnn, Wednesday won't go awaaaay, Wednesday Mornin Yeahhhh, sometimes life can be decievin, wednesday morning won't go awaaaay ~~~ Sing it again Gerry & Dewey :) :) :)

PS~~ Anyone out there that was Lucky enough to be at the Topeka, Kansas show this evening???? ~~ Come tell us all about it Please!!!!

Message: 35596 Posted: Thu Sep 16 19:35:11 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Struttin' Our Stuff -- Check out this new Audio CD from Germany

My guess is that this is basically the same concert as the In Concert - Ohne Filter DVD that came out in 2001 with the addition of "Three Roses" and "I Need You" as tracks 5 and 6. It sounds like it came from the same German concert that was filmed on TV and now they're releasing it on a music CD rather than a DVD.

Message: 35595 Posted: Thu Sep 16 18:51:17 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: OT - Brian Wilson & Paul McCartney

This is way off topic... but I thought I heard or read a news blurb the other day which said Brian Wilson & Paul McCartney would be collaborating on some songs to be released on a cd next year. Anyone else hear this too? Or maybe I was too bleary-eyed and not fully caffeinated enough when I read it or just wishful thinking?


Message: 35594 Posted: Thu Sep 16 18:44:58 2004 By: David S
Subject: Struttin' Our Stuff -- Check out this new Audio CD from Germany

Message: 35593 Posted: Thu Sep 16 06:36:49 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: 'Like A Brother' CD on eBay

eBay item #4036895529 if interested.

Message: 35592 Posted: Thu Sep 16 06:32:59 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & For Cotton

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 16, 2004

79 years ago - Guitar legend B.B. King is born. (1925)

56 years ago - Kenney Jones, drummer for Faces and Keith Moon's replacement in The Who, is born. (1948)

41 years ago - "She Loves You" backed by "I'll Get You" by the Beatles is released by Swan Records in the U.S. Though its tops in the U.K., "She Loves You" doesn't do anything until 1964 when it runs up to Number One. (1963)

40 years ago - "Shindig!" premieres on ABC-TV. It was inspired by the success of British Invasion groups on "The Ed Sullivan Show." The show features both British and American performers plus a cast of go-go dancers and a house band. Within a few months NBC has an imitation, "Hullabaloo." (1964)

39 years ago - The Rolling Stones open the second season of "Shindig!" by performing "Satisfaction." Also on the show are the Kinks, Byrds and Everly Brothers. (1965)

38 years ago - Bassist Pete Quafe leaves the Kinks and is replaced by John Dalton. (1966)

38 years ago - Member of Parliament, Tom Drilberg asks Britain's House of Commons to officially "deplore" the action of a magistrate who'd earlier called the Rolling Stones "complete morons...who wear filthy clothes." (1966)

37 years ago - Jimi Hendrix' debut LP, "Are You Experienced?" enters the album charts. (1967)

34 years ago - A "Melody Maker" poll finds that Led Zeppelin has replaced the Beatles as the U.K.'s most popular group-the first time the Beatles haven't been Number One in eight years. (1970)

34 years ago - Jimi Hendrix makes his final public appearance, jamming with Eric Burdon and War at Ronnie Scott's club in London. (1970)

33 years ago - The Who's "Who's Next" goes gold. (1971)

32 years ago - Rod Stewart's "Never A Dull Moment" hits #2 on the LP charts. (1972)

32 years ago - The Temptations' "All Directions" enters the LP charts. The album features the #1 single, "Papa Was A Rollin' Stone." (1972)

27 years ago - The Rolling Stones release their third live album, "Love You, Live." The two album set was recorded in Paris last year and in Toronto in March of this year. The package shoots to #5 U.S. album chart. (1977)

27 years ago - Marc Bolan of T. Rex dies at the age of 29. (1977)

26 years ago - The Grateful Dead play a concert before the pyramids of Egypt. The concert is recorded, but has yet to be released on record. (1978)

26 years ago - The Cars' "Just What I Needed" peaks at #27 on the singles chart. (1978)

25 years ago - Rap, The New York City ghetto music in which the performers chant rhymed and rhythmical verses over prerecorded instrumental dance tracks, makes it onto vinyl with the release of the Sugar Hill Gang's "Rapper's Delight." Sylvia Robinson (formerly of Mickey & Sylvia) formed the company to produce rap records despite industry warnings that rap had no commercial appeal. "Rappers Delight" was recorded over the instrumental break from Chic's "Good Times." The single becomes a disco smash sellling two million copies in the U.S. (1979)

8 years ago - R.E.M.'s "New Adventures in Hi-Fi" enters the album charts at #2. (1996)


The Who - Going Mobile

I'm going home
And when I want to go home, I'm going mobile
Well I'm gonna find a home on wheels, see how it feels,
Goin' mobile
Keep me moving

I can pull up by the curb,
I can make it on the road,
Goin' mobile
I can stop in any street
And talk with people that we meet
Goin' mobile
Keep me moving

Out in the woods
Or in the city
It's all the same to me
When I'm driving free
The world's my home
When I'm mobile

Play the tape machine
Make the toast and tea
When I'm mobile
Well, I can lay in bed with only highway ahead
When I'm mobile
Keep me moving

Keep me moving
Over fifty
Keep me groovin'
Just a hippie gypsy
Come on move now
Keep me movin' yeah

Keep me movin', movin', movin', yeah
Movin' yeah
Mobile, mobile, mobile, mobile....

I don't care about pollution
I'm an air-conditioned gypsy
That's my solution
Watch the police and the taxman miss me!
I'm mobile!
Mobile, mobile, mobile, yeah


A bill collector knocked on the door of a country debtor. "Is
Fred home?" he asked the woman who answered the door.

"Sorry," the woman replied. "Fred's gone for cotton."

The next day the collector tried again. "Is Fred here today?"

"No, sir," she said, "I'm afraid Fred has gone for cotton."

When he returned the third day he harumphed, "I suppose
Fred is gone for cotton again?"

"No," the woman answered solemnly, "Fred died yesterday."

Suspicious that he was being avoided, the collector decided
to wait a week and investigate the cemetery himself. But
sure enough, there was poor Fred's tombstone, with this
inscription: "Gone, But Not for Cotton."


We can do "The Innuendo"
We can dance and sing
When it's said and done we haven't told you a thing
We all know that Crap is King
Give us dirty laundry!


Red Oak

Message: 35591 Posted: Thu Sep 16 06:09:27 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Inductees

Here's a list of everybody who has been inducted into the RR HOF. While I agree with the vast majority of inductees, there are a few in here that make me say "huh?" Needless to say, I think America's contributions and achievements match up well with many on this list and exceeds some. If I was paranoid I would think that the fact that it took several years for George Martin to be inducted might have been because of his association with America.

Chuck Berry, James Brown, Ray Charles, Sam Cooke, Fats Domino, The Everly Brothers, Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee Lewis, Elvis Presley, Little Richard, The Coasters, Eddie Cochran, Bo Diddley, Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gaye, Bill Haley, B. B. King, Clyde McPhatter, Ricky Nelson, Roy Orbison, Carl Perkins, Smokey Robinson, Big Joe Turner, Muddy Waters, Jackie Wilson, The Beach Boys, The Beatles, The Drifters, Bob Dylan, The Supremes, Dion, Otis Redding, The Rolling Stones, The Temptations, Stevie Wonder, Hank Ballard, Bobby Darin, The Four Seasons, The Four Tops, The Kinks, The Platters, Simon and Garfunkel, The Who, LaVern Baker, The Byrds, John Lee Hooker, The Impressions, Wilson Pickett, Jimmy Reed, Ike and Tina Turner, Bobby "Blue" Bland, Booker T. and the M.G.'s, Johnny Cash, The Isley Brothers, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Sam and Dave, The Yardbirds, Ruth Brown, Cream, Creedence Clearwater Revival, The Doors, Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers, Etta James, Van Morrison,,Sly and the Family Stone, The Animals, The Band, Duane Eddy, The Grateful Dead, Elton John, John Lennon, Bob Marley, Rod Stewart, The Allman Brothers Band, Al Green, Janis Joplin, Led Zeppelin, Martha and the Vandellas, Neil Young, Frank Zappa, David Bowie, Gladys Knight and the Pips, Jefferson Airplane, Little Willie John, Pink Floyd, The Shirelles, The Velvet Underground, The (Young) Rascals, The Bee Gees, Buffalo Springfield, Crosby, Stills and Nash, The Jackson Five, Joni Mitchell, Parliament-Funkadelic, The Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, The Mamas and the Papas, Lloyd Price, Santana, Gene Vincent, Billy Joel, Curtis Mayfield, Paul McCartney, Del Shannon, Dusty Springfield, Bruce Springsteen, The Staple Singers, Eric Clapton, Earth, Wind & Fire, Lovin' Spoonful, The Moonglows, Bonnie Raitt, James Taylor, Aerosmith, Solomon Burke, The Flamingos, Michael Jackson, Queen, Paul Simon, Steely Dan, Ritchie Valens, Isaac Hayes, Brenda Lee, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Gene Pitney, Ramones, Talking Heads, AC/DC, The Clash, Elvis Costello & the Attractions, The Police, Righteous Brothers, Jackson Browne, The Dells, George Harrison, Prince, Bob Seger, Traffic, ZZ Top

Robert Johnson, Jimmie Rodgers, Jimmy Yancey, Louis Jordan, T-Bone Walker, Hank Williams, Woody Guthrie, Lead Belly, Les Paul, The Inkspots, Bessie Smith, The Soul Stirrers, Louis Armstrong, Charlie Christian, Ma Rainey, Howlin' Wolf, Elmore James, Professor Longhair, Dinah Washington, Willie Dixon, The Orioles, Pete Seeger, Mahalia Jackson, Bill Monroe, Jelly Roll Morton, Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys, Charles Brown, Nat "King" Cole, Billie Holiday

John Hammond, Nesuhi Ertegun, Jann S. Wenner

Alan Freed, Sam Phillips, Leonard Chess, Ahmet Ertegun, Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller, Jerry Wexler, Berry Gordy, Jr, Phil Spector, Gerry Goffin and Carole King, Holland, Dozier and Holland, Dave Bartholomew, Ralph Bass, Leo Fender, Bill Graham, Doc Pomus, Dick Clark, Milt Gabler, Johnny Otis, Paul Ackerman, Tom Donahue, Syd Nathan, Allen Toussaint, George Martin, Clive Davis, Chris Blackwell, Jim Stewart, Mo Ostin

Hal Blaine, King Curtis, James Jamerson, Scotty Moore, Earl Palmer, James Burton, Johnnie Johnson, Chet Atkins, Benny Benjamin, Floyd Cramer, Steve Douglas

Message: 35590 Posted: Thu Sep 16 06:08:42 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Criteria

Here are the official criteria for gaining entry into the R&R HOF. I think it is important to point out that the HOF was established to recognize those who "had a significant impact on the evolution, development and perpetuation of rock and roll." So even if critics want to try to incorrectly dismiss America as having no impact on the evolution or development of RR (though as I recall you couldn't find a folk-rock performer in playing a club in the 70s that didn't have America songs as part of their repertoire), judging from the number of hit singles and albums they had and the fact that they were one of the biggest selling and touring groups of the 70s, there can be no question about their significant impact on the perpetuation of RR!

Leaders in the music industry joined together in 1983 to establish the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. One of the Foundation’s many functions is to recognize the contributions of those who have had a significant impact on the evolution, development and perpetuation of rock and roll by inducting them into the Hall of Fame.

Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artist’s contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll.

The Foundation’s nominating committee, composed of rock and roll historians, selects nominees each year in the Performer category. Ballots are then sent to an international voting body of about 1,000 rock experts. Those performers who receive the highest number of votes, and more than 50 percent of the vote, are inducted. The Foundation generally inducts five to seven performers each year.

Songwriters, producers, disc jockeys, record executives, journalists and other industry professionals who have had a major influence on the development of rock and roll.

Early Influences
Artists whose music predated rock and roll but had an impact on the evolution of rock and roll and inspired rock’s leading artists.

The special selection committee elects the inductees in the Non-performer and Early Influences categories.

Side Men
This category was introduced in 2000. It honors those musicians who have spent their career out of the spotlight, performing as backup musicians for major artists on recording sessions and in concert. Though they often play a key role in the creation of memorable music, the public rarely knows them by name. A separate committee, composed primarily of producers, selects the inductees in this category.

Message: 35589 Posted: Thu Sep 16 01:53:58 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: Re: To Dan Peek

I didnt know Dan was still in The Cayman's. I seem to remember reading he was back in The States. Was it Missouri? But he must have returned to the Islands. I love the track Bodden Town.

Message: 35588 Posted: Wed Sep 15 23:39:39 2004 By: Five One
Subject: Re: To Dan Peek

Madolyn - read episode 9 of Dan's bio on his web site. You'll find the answer there.

Message: 35587 Posted: Wed Sep 15 20:25:04 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: heat about the band The Band

It's cool guy....we all have our favorites and not so favorites. I just have to defend the ones I like. I have several cd's by of "The Band" and just enjoy them. They are no "America" or "Beatles", BUT THAN WHO IS? :)
"Dire Straits" are awsome !! I have "The best of" and the "live one"
I enjoy them a lot too !!
Mark M

Message: 35586 Posted: Wed Sep 15 19:15:38 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: To Dan Peek

Did Dan and his wife ever have children? Just curious.

-- Madolyn

Message: 35585 Posted: Wed Sep 15 16:45:43 2004 By: David O.
Subject: Re: To Dan Peek

I just sent an email earlier this week to Dan wishing him luck as he lives in the Cayman's which were badly damaged. He did take the time to respond before the storm. I hope all went well for him.

Message: 35584 Posted: Wed Sep 15 07:55:55 2004 By: craig
Subject: meet and greet

In Oct. america will be in NJ at the Pollack Theater does anyone know how to possibly get my father to meet the band he is a huge fan and is very sick we bought the tickets but they can't guarentee the meet and greet is available that day

Message: 35583 Posted: Wed Sep 15 07:31:34 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Magic Pill

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 15, 2004

42 years ago - Brian Epstein brings the Beatles to the offices of the "London Daily Mirror" for an interview with Peter Jones, who concludes they are "a nothing group." (1962)

40 years ago - At Cleveland's Public Auditorium, the Beatles are ordered off the stage by authorities for fifteen minutes so that the screaming crowd can calm down. (1964)

35 years ago - Ed Sullivan releases a rock & roll record, "The Sulli-Gulli," by the Ed Sullivan Singers and Orchestra. (1969)

35 years ago - Deep Purple, with new vocalist Ian Gillan and bassist Roger Glover, perform "Concerto for Rock Band and Orchestra" with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra at London's Royal Albert Hall. (1969)

34 years ago - Vice-President Spiro Agnew says the youth of America are being "brainwashed into a drug culture" by rock music, movies, books and underground newspapers. (1970)

31 years ago - Elton John's "Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting" peaks at #12 on the chart. (1973)

31 years ago - Rod Stewart's version of Sam Cooke's "Twisting The Night Away" peaks at #59 on the chart. (1973)

30 years ago - Uriah Heep bassist Gary Thain is nearly electrocuted onstage during a show in Dallas. He survives but quits the group soon after. (1974)

28 years ago - Steely Dan's fifth album, "The Royal Scam," goes gold. Songs on it include "The Fez" and "Kid Charlemagne." (1976)

27 years ago - The Rolling Stones release their "Love You Live" LP. (1977)

26 years ago - Bob Dylan starts his longest U.S. tour ever in Augusta, Maine. He will play 62 cities in three months. (1978)

25 years ago - Bob Dylan releases his first religiously themed album, "Slow Train Coming." (1979)

25 years ago - "The Devil Went Down To Georgia" by The Charlie Daniels Band peaks at #3 on the pop singles chart. (1979)

25 years ago - Swedish pop stars Abba play their first concert in what has to be the only continent in the civilized world where they aren't huge stars-North America. The show takes place in Vancouver, British Columbia. (1979)

14 years ago - Bruce Hornsby begins filling in on keyboard for The Grateful Dead following the death of Brent Mydland. (1990)


ABBA - Eagle

They came flying from far away, now I'm under their spell
I love hearing the stories that they tell
They've seen places beyond my land and they've found new horizons
They speak strangely but I understand

And I dream I'm an eagle
And I dream I can spread my wings
Flying high, high, I'm a bird in the sky
I'm an eagle that rides on the breeze
High, high, what a feeling to fly
Over mountains and forests and seas
And to go anywhere that I please

As all good friends we talk all night, and we fly wing to wing
I have questions and they know everything
There's no limit to what I feel, we climb higher and higher
Am I dreaming or is it all real?

Is it true I'm an eagle?
Is it true I can spread my wings?
Flying high, high, I'm a bird in the sky
(I'm an eagle)
I'm an eagle that rides on the breeze
High, high, what a feeling to fly
(What a feeling)
Over mountains and forests and seas
And to go anywhere that I please

And I dream I'm an eagle
And I dream I can spread my wings
Flying high, high, I'm a bird in the sky
(I'm an eagle)
I'm an eagle that rides on the breeze
High, high, what a feeling to fly
(What a feeling)
Over mountains and forests and seas
Flying high, high, I'm a bird in the sky
(I'm an eagle)
I'm an eagle that rides on the breeze
High, high, what a feeling to fly
(What a feeling)
Over mountains and forests and seas
And to go anywhere that I please


Have you seen this commercial for Viagra? This guy comes home, he's rushing around, he's cleaning the house, he's cooking dinner, he's setting the table, he's putting flowers and candles out before his wife gets home.

Do you think women watching the commercial go, "Never mind the sex, where do I find a pill to get my husband to do all of this?"


But I know a place where we can go
That's still untouched by men
We'll sit and watch the clouds roll by
And the tall grass wave in the wind

Happy Hump Day!!!!!!!!!!

Red Oak

Message: 35582 Posted: Wed Sep 15 06:46:11 2004 By: Pete
Subject: Re: To Dan Peek

I think Dan is very happy where he is. He's had his years on the road and now he's happier because he has his faith in his family and the lord. Just my opinion.

Message: 35581 Posted: Wed Sep 15 06:34:31 2004 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: sorry

about the double post

Message: 35580 Posted: Wed Sep 15 06:30:56 2004 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: heat about the band The Band

SORRY to all of the Band lovers out there - my only point was they had one big hit... Granted some other songs that got airplay. hey I have the CDs Stage Fright and Planet Waves. I'm just comparing them to groups that had significant airplay and a significant amount of hits. I also know they are not truely a "rock" band - this is a music hall of fame and Al Green and others certainly don't qualify as rockers. Glad I stirred up the soup - How about my second favorite band Dire Straits ???????????

Message: 35579 Posted: Wed Sep 15 06:28:56 2004 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: heat about the band The Band

SORRY to all of the Band lovers out there - my only point was they had one big hit... Granted some other songs that got airplay. hey I have the CDs Stage Fright and Planet Waves. I'm just comparing them to groups that had significant airplay and a significant amount of hits. I also know they are not truely a "rock" band - this is a music hall of fame and Al Green and others certainly don't qualify as rockers. Glad I stirred up the soup - How about my second favorite band Dire Straits ???????????

Message: 35578 Posted: Wed Sep 15 05:19:18 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: To Dan Peek

Ok, we can talk forever about a Dan Peek reunion, but just where IS he? He has recently put out two quite lovely albums, so why isnt it going further? Dan, who wouldnt want to tour with you? Why has it been 20 years? You have spoken of your desire to reunite with the guys. And if thats not to happen, how is it that you havnt hit it with a band to tour the world?

Message: 35577 Posted: Wed Sep 15 05:00:44 2004 By: Margaret
Subject: DVD

I'm glad that you got to see it, Goanna!

Kevin, the DVD is released through Roadshow Entertainment.

I think that the promotional postcard may have been sent out by Roadshow Entertainment to people who booked tickets for The Opera House shows because I received one in the mail, postmarked 9/9/04, the release date. That's a good piece of marketing with two sold out shows.

Message: 35576 Posted: Wed Sep 15 04:42:35 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: Re: Rock HOF/ what it takes

Here in NZ we dont really hear about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, though I wish we did, but really, Ive never thought of AMERICA as rock n roll. Cos they aren't. Think back to the origin of rock n roll and what it was. Then rock became more than roll, and we had some absolutely fabulous rock artists; THE BAND, as mentioned here; for those in doubt, take a look at THE LAST WALTZ, a dvd Ive been watching a lot recently, for The Band themselves, not the guests. As for Dave Marsh and his like, long have I despised his opinions for bands I love. As has been stated here, it stems from that time when it was 'cool' to like certain bands, uncool to like others. All along though, I kept playing my acoustic, never lost the belief in these guys, and they are the ones that really rock!

Message: 35575 Posted: Wed Sep 15 03:25:33 2004 By: Goanna
Subject: America DVD - Opera House Interview

Hi Everyone,
Well, I picked up a copy today of the new DVD of the Sydney Opera House. I can only say that it is fantastic...!!!

Moreover, the fact that on the DVD special features section is an "In Depth" interview with Dewey & Gerry, hosted by Glenn A Baker.

I would have to say that whilst watching the video of the Opera House Concert was outsatnding, the best part of the DVD for me personally was the interview. I can only say to Dewey & Gerry, THANK YOU. I know we have heard and read all the "History" of you guys before, but this was really great. A reasonably in depth discussion of your past to present was what has topped off the DVD so fine.

I've seen (as we all have) interviews with great artists, bands etc, but nothing I guess as intimate and for that period of time. (Ladies), you'll all now have fun getting up closer & personal with the guys...!!! I know Lili was stary eyed for a while there today watching it...

I think the thing that stands out the most is the natural "speak" of Dewey & Gerry, their down to earth manner of the whole experience, and the fact that they truy acknowledged the people that helped them become a success. True artists, gentlemen & just plain fantastic...!

I hope you will all like it as much as we have...

Greg, Lili & Jordan

Message: 35574 Posted: Tue Sep 14 19:43:37 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: Rock HOF/what it takes

I just checked out the Hall of Fame website to check on who has been inducted. I was surprised to see that Jethro Tull and Yes weren't on the lists.

From what it looks like to me, it almost seems as if they're kind of "done" with 70s, and now they've moved on to more modern acts that gained strength in the 80s. Which is a pity ... not to say the 80s didn't produce good acts, but the 70s was such an amazing time for music and innovation. The good singer/songwriters that are around today usually have some sort of remanufactured 70s sound ... and where is Nick Drake in all of this?! (He's more 60s, though.) Those sweet-voiced boy artists like Pete Yorn and Howie Day can't hold a candle to Nice Drake.

The HOF is so much like the Academy Awards -- I'm often disappointed with those choices and feel like it's so political.

And see, America doesn't seem like the kind of band that would play politics with the industry. They like to go on the road and really love what they do. Shmoozing and being industry darlings takes up a lot of energy that they would probably rather use in their performances.

Sorry for the rant!

-- Madolyn

Message: 35573 Posted: Tue Sep 14 19:32:21 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Rock HOF/what it takes

I think you need to listen to "The Band" a bit closer...they are great !
I do agree tho that "America and the Doobies" deserve a place.
Mark M

Message: 35572 Posted: Tue Sep 14 19:29:52 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: Only A Matter Of Time

After seeing Fleetwood Mac's show where they never even mentioned Christine McVie

Speaking of Christine, has anyone heard anything from her new solo effort? I heard the single on my favorite local AAA radio station and it sounded pretty fresh. iTunes featured the album on the home page a few days ago; I listened to clips from a few of the songs, and they sounded nice. Her voice has withstood the test of time better than poor Stevie Nicks's.

-- Madolyn

Message: 35571 Posted: Tue Sep 14 19:28:22 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: rock and roll hall of fame

Your points are well noted, and I agree. The whole thing is definetly messed up.
This morning on the radio, they were talking about it. Of course they didn't bring up "America", but they were wondering why "Foreinger" has never been inducted?
They were inducting "The Sex pistols" and "Conway Twitty" and the DJ'S were wondering how artists like that get into "Rock and roll hall of fame" and other true "Rock and roll" bands get bypassed every year.
It does make fans of "Rock and roll" wonder ??
Mark M

Message: 35570 Posted: Tue Sep 14 19:15:35 2004 By: Robsl
Subject: Erlewine biography (mention of Highway)

I just thought i would post a link to the subpage on the All Music Guide where Stephen Thomas Erlewine mentions that "Highway 30 Years of America" is one of his favorite box sets ever. I had mentioned this bit of publicity in a previous post. It may be an obscure mention but I thought it would interest some. This web site is one of the most frequently visited music related sites/resources on the web. I hope this link works, it has some strange letters in it but i think it should be fine to visit.

Here it is:

Take care everyone,
Rob L

Message: 35569 Posted: Tue Sep 14 14:16:31 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: For Johnny Yee

Hey Johnny,I've been trying to email you to send you a pic,but it keeps coming back to me. Get ahold of me...

Message: 35568 Posted: Tue Sep 14 13:45:59 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Robert Haimer/Listening Party

Pretty interesting that Robert Haimer made a guest appearance the other night. Wonder if he and Dewey still collaborate or if that's a thing of the past? I bet he has some interesting stories! What a great writer... I'd love to know how to get past writer's block when I have to write my Department's Newsletter. But then again it's pretty dry material.


Message: 35567 Posted: Tue Sep 14 09:00:54 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: Rock HOF/what it takes

Rob: You are right on target with your post. It's all about a few critics. Many people think of the Rock Hall nominations as some kind of democratic process, but that is far from the truth. I've also heard talk about how certain bands (such as America, Chicago and The Moody Blues) are too "nice" or too "clean" and don't have the proper image for the Hall. That's a shame. But in any case, I don't think any of these bands require the affirmation of induction into the Hall of Fame. Sure, it would be nice, but it's certainly not required. We love 'em just the same.

Message: 35566 Posted: Tue Sep 14 08:46:21 2004 By: Robsl
Subject: Rock HOF/what it takes

I usually weigh in on issues relating to HOF induction, so i'll throw my two cents in. I personally like The Band a lot, and am glad that they got in. But yeah, I agree with you Dave about the Doobie Brothers. I believe you are correct that they've never been nominated and they really deserve to be in there. It's all because of the group of rock critics who hold sway over the voting process, they talk amongst each other, they influence each other's tastes, and in the end they end up overhyping certain artists to the expense of others, without much respect for renegade critics who are fans of a band that has gone out of vogue for a few years. It seems to me that it would be nice if a few critcs piped up and mentioned that "The Doobie Brothers weren't all that fact they were quite good" even if it meant they might not get invited to the office party for Columbus Day. The rock critics who wield this odd standard over their peers include such outspoken (almost famous themselves) critics as Dave Marsh, Jon Landau, Robert Christgau, and Geoffrey Giuliano. Dave Marsh used to write reviews of America CDs for a number of rock magazines in the 70s, and he consistently badmouthed their music with some vague references to having too much fun, not understanding music, or some such criticism.
Basically, I feel that America definitely should get in and if I ruled the voting committee in the way that Marsh and Landau do, they would already be in. I would have wanted Chicago to be in by now. And, in a major case of absurdity, the Moody Blues haven't even gotten in yet. I just have a sneaky suspicion that some of these critics are afraid to let their voices be heard, the entire committee's tastes can't really be so uniform as they seem. It's as if there are just a handful of rock bands that are endorsed by these critics.
The funny thing is, I really tend to like those bands that the critics do like as well. So it's not as if I am inclined to just not watch the induction ceremonies because I am very happy and excited for some of my favorite bands who are inducted. But I just wish I would see more of these great, hardworking, veteran bands /singers get their spot in the Hall of Fame.
I am 99% sure that U2 will get in this year, first ballot. And I love them, they're really a great band, one of the greatest to start in the 80s and such. But the critics drool over them like they were the only band to release a good album in twenty years. I mean, I just wish that along with their induction we would see America, Doobie Brothers, Jim Croce, Mellencamp, Chicago, Jan and Dean, Van Halen, Moody Blues, etc. get in also. But Dave Marsh would get in a little tantrum...okay maybe i'm getting a bit carried away here, but it's just frustrating to see one or two critics controlling the tastes of the establishment. I know there were some critics who supported America in their heyday, and even the usually unflattering Stephen Thomas Erlewine recently gave a positive review to Highway the box set on his website He even went so far as to name it as one of his all-time favorite box sets which i'm not sure if anyone had pointed out on here. In any event, maybe they'll get in in a couple years or something, i'm not giving up hope quite yet.
I think Skynyrd might have a decent chance of getting in this year too. And I respect Lynyrd Skynyrd. Good band.
By the way, I'm very excited about the rumor about some new "6-8 songs" sitting around in the studios. Let's hope the guys come up with a few more and we get to hear it around springtime of next year. :)
Sorry for the long winded post and thanks for still reading.
-Rob L

Message: 35565 Posted: Tue Sep 14 07:55:35 2004 By: Dave Balletto
Subject: Rock HOF/what it takes

I believe it takes 25 years from the bands first release. How the group The Band got nominated is a joke and how they got in is a bigger one versus America and I believe the Doobies never even nominated.

Message: 35564 Posted: Tue Sep 14 06:52:10 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: rock and roll hall of fame

I guess I am less optimistic than others, I have given up on the HOF because the process seems to be dominated as much by politics as by music. While no doubt America deserves to be inducted, I doubt that they will unless there is a change in "management" of the HOF. Many critics and media establishment how vote on the HOF look down their noses at America and try to re-write history by dismissing them as a shallow pop group. Right now I think the process is too political. If an artist was part of the hip drug, anti-establishment, anti-government culture, it appears too be much easier to get in. But if you just produced great music, had a string of hit singles and albums, sold millions, and influenced a generation of musicians, well that just isn't good enough.

I think if America had another comeback hit to call public attention to themselves, it would be much more difficult for the HOF to ignore America. But without the backing of a bigger label, the radio tends to ignore their new material. That's one of the reasons I would like to see a reunion with Dan, it MIGHT call some attention to them and get their new stuff noticed.

Message: 35563 Posted: Tue Sep 14 06:47:48 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Economics

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 14, 2004

55 years ago - Steven Gaines, guitarist for Lynyrd Skynyrd, is born. He died in 1977.(1949)

41 years ago - The Beach Boys' "Surfer Girl" peaks at #7 on the pop singles chart. (1963)

41 years ago - Due to pressure from folksingers boycotting television's "hootenanny" program, ABC invites Pete Seeger to appear on the show-only if he'll sign an oath of loyalty to the U.S. He doesn't and ABC extends its ban on the outspoken leftist musician. (1963)

36 years ago - In a interview published in Rolling Stone, Pete Townshend says he plans to come up with a rock opera about a boy who is deaf, dumb and blind. (1968)

36 years ago - Forty oversea officials of the United States Information Agency are required to attend a concert in D.C. by Blood, Sweat & Tears. It's part of the USIA's program to acquaint its overseas staff with cultural developments in the homeland. (1968)

36 years ago - The mastermind behind "The Monkees," Don Kirshner, premieres his latest idea on CBS, "The Archies," a Saturday morning cartoon show based on the comic book series. (1968)

36 years ago - The Jeff Beck Group's debut album, which featured vocalist Rod Stewart and bassist Ronnie Wood, enters the LP chart. (1968)

36 years ago - Big Brother and the Holding Company's LP, "Cheap Thrills" enters the LP chart -- where it will stay for 29 weeks, including 8 at #1. (1968)

35 years ago - Genesis, which consisted of Peter Gabriels, Mike Rutherford, Tony Banks, Anthony Phillips and John Mahew, play their first paid gig at a cottage in Surrey, England, owned by Gabriels' former Sunday school teacher. (1969)

30 years ago - Eric Clapton's version of Bob Marley's "I Shot The Sheriff" hits #1 on the singles chart. (1974)

30 years ago - Bachman-Turner Overdrive's "Not Fragile" enters the album chart, where it goes straight to #1. The LP features the #1 single, "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet." (1974)

30 years ago - ELP's "Welcome Back My Friends To The Show That Never Ends - Ladies and Gentlemen" enters the album chart. (1974)

28 years ago - Jeff Beck's second jazz-rock-fusion album, "Wired," goes gold. (1976)

23 years ago - The Rolling Stones' "Tattoo You" enters the LP chart, where it will stay for 30 weeks including 9 at #1. (1981)

23 years ago - Pink Floyd's movie "The Wall" begins production. (1981)

20 years ago - The first annual MTV Video Music Awards take place at New York's Radio City Music Hall. Herbie Hancock takes top honors. Dan Ackroyd and Bette Midler host. (1984)

19 years ago - John Mellencamp's "Scarecrow" hits the LP chart. The multi-platinum album includes the hits "Lonely 'ol Night," "Small Town" and "R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A." (1985)

19 years ago - Pat Benatar's "Invincible" peaks at #10 on the singles chart, while Tina Turner's "We Don't Need Another Hero" peaks at #2. (1985)

13 years ago - Bob Seger's LP "The Fire Inside" enters the chart. (1991)

13 years ago - David Bowie's band Tin Machine release their 2nd album, "II", and kick off their first and only tour. (1991)

9 years ago - David Bowie kicks off his "Outside" tour in Hartford, CT. His opening act is Nine Inch Nails. (1995)

9 years ago - Paul McCartney's hand written lyrics for "Getting Better" sell for $249,000 at a Sotheby's auction. (1995)

6 years ago - Sean Lennon, son of John, appears with his band on the 200th episode of the drama, "Melrose Place." He plays three songs. (1998)

5 years ago - The free "Sheryl Crow and Friends" concert is held in New York's Central Park. She is joined on stage at different times by Keith Richards, Stevie Nicks, The Dixie Chicks, Eric Clapton, Chrissie Hynde and Sarah McLachlan. The second hour of the concert is broadcast live on Fox. (1999)


Bachman - Turner Overdrive - You Aint Seen Nothing Yet

I met a devil woman,
She took my heart away,
She said, I had it comin' to me,
But I wanted it that way.
I think that any love is good lovin', and
So I took what I could get mmh,
Oooh, oooh she looked at me with big brown eyes
And said:
You ain't seen nothin' yet,
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen nothin' yet,
Here's something that you never gonna forget,
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen nothin' yet.
And now I'm feelin' better,
'Cause I found out for sure.
She took me to her doctor
And he told me of a cure.
He said that any love is good love
So I took what I could get mmh,
Oooh, oooh she looked at me with big brown eyes
And said:
You ain't seen nothin' yet,
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen nothin' yet,
Here's something that you never gonna forget,
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen nothin' yet.
Any love is good love
So I took what I could get mmh,
Oooh, oooh she looked at me with big brown eyes
And said:
You ain't seen nothin' yet,
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen nothin' yet,
Here's something that you never gonna forget,
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen nothin' yet.


President Bush's approval ratings continue to fall.

He will use an upcoming 30-second ad to discuss his economic plan.

In this duration, he can explain it 3 times.


R-O-C-K in the USA

Red Oak

Message: 35562 Posted: Tue Sep 14 00:53:32 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Only A Matter Of Time

After watching the DVD inteview, Dewey and Gerry are very relaxed in their time space. Gerrry, more or less, said, "Hey we had our time at the top, we have achieved this and that. We're still here together, having a good time". And us, we're still here, buying DVDs, attending concerts. Don't forget - two sold-out concerts at the prestigious Sydney Opera House. 150 shows a year. Hall of Rock and Roll Fame? - They are living it. It's only a matter of time, what's the hurry?

One last thing about the DVD interview - Dewey paid homage to Dan's imput to the band, stating that is why they include his songs into the show. After seeing Fleetwood Mac's show where they never even mentioned Christine McVie, all I can say is - thank you because we remember Dan and enjoy hearing his songs at every concert. Very much appreciated.


Message: 35561 Posted: Mon Sep 13 20:17:35 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: rock and roll hall of fame

I am sure it is just a matter of time. I know sometimes when I hear of someone that is being Inducted, I can't believe it took this long?
I'm sure with all the acheivements that "America" has made, it will happen...but when??
It would be great to see them all together.
Mark M

Message: 35560 Posted: Mon Sep 13 17:59:18 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: rock and roll hall of fame

Anyone have any idea what it takes to become a nominee? I think it's a matter of time that they'll get inducted, but I wonder what the holdup is. An induction would probably mean that all three members will be reunited for one time again -- maybe not to play together, but at least to receive the award. When Fleetwood Mac was inducted about five years ago or so, even Peter Green showed up for it (and I didn't realize at the time that he was even still alive).

-- Madolyn

Message: 35559 Posted: Mon Sep 13 17:55:59 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Another Belated B-day Greeting

Gerry, I hope you had a wonderful birthday!

Best wishes,
-- Madolyn

Message: 35558 Posted: Mon Sep 13 14:37:57 2004 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: OT- Tea offerings

Clearly... all the tracks are ab-so-so-lu-te-ly EXCELLENT!
My heart especially goes to OVER YOU (get a listen to the latest version with those great harmonies à la Beach Boys) and this totally amazing T.E.A. cover of one of my very fave LOW songs... CANADA!
Frankly, it takes no more than one simple listen to realize how HUGE these guys' talent is ! Period.


Message: 35557 Posted: Mon Sep 13 14:03:19 2004 By: hekawi25
Subject: rock and roll hall of fame

nominees were announced for the next class for induction into the rock and roll hall of fame. once again, america is not on the list.

Message: 35556 Posted: Mon Sep 13 14:00:11 2004 By: hekawi25
Subject: dan and ivan

Hope Dan Peek down in the islands is safe from Hurrican Ivan.

Message: 35555 Posted: Mon Sep 13 12:17:24 2004 By: Anita
Subject: From Leah to Gerry

Leah Taylor, who is currently offline, asked me to pass along birthday wishes to Gerry. So Gerry, Happy Birthday from Leah!

Message: 35554 Posted: Mon Sep 13 11:22:59 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: OT- Tea offerings

Robyn, you are right on target! The boys have outdone themselves this time -- definitely Matt's best work so far, IMHO. Please give this stuff a listen. The website is looking great as well.

Message: 35553 Posted: Mon Sep 13 11:01:17 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: OT- Tea offerings

Check out the new stuff the lads have put up for our listening pleasure at

WAY TO GO Matt, Bryce and Ryland!

Message: 35552 Posted: Mon Sep 13 10:54:16 2004 By: Sherry
Subject: Belated Happy Birthday to Mr. Beckley

Sorry this is late, but I wanted to send a Happy Birthday out to Mr. Gerry Beckley!

Message: 35551 Posted: Mon Sep 13 09:51:52 2004 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: Poster - Make Me An Offer

Several weeks ago I posted a message saying that I'm looking to sell a rare AMERICA Warner Brothers Records poster (shown again here) and that I'd throw in an autographed "Human Nature" poster to the lucky buyer. Well, three people wrote to me expressing interest, but not one person has made an actual offer to buy the poster. Frankly, I'm very surprised. I thought that this would be the ideal place to sell it. Once again, I am asking anyone who is interested to submit an offer to me. Although I paid $150 for it, I will consider any offers. I would really like the poster to go to a true fan, not just a collector of posters. Remember folks, Christmas, Hanukkah and Kwanzaa are just a few months away! So MAKE AN OFFER! What do you have to lose?

Message: 35550 Posted: Mon Sep 13 06:30:03 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Twins

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 13, 2004

63 years ago - David Clayton-Thomas, vocalist for Blood Sweat & Tears, is born. (1941)

60 years ago - Peter Cetera, former bass player and vocalist for Chicago is born. (1944)

40 years ago - New York DJ Murray the K hosts the conclusion of the ten day rock & roll extravaganza at Brooklyn's Fox Theatre, held to compete against the Animals ten day run at Brooklyn's Paramount Theatre. Acts on the Fox bill include Marvin Gaye, the Miracles, Martha & the Vandellas, the Contours, the Supremes, the Searchers, the Temptations, Jay & the Americans, the Dovells, the Newbeats, Little Anthony & the Imperials, the Shangri-las and the Ronettes. The Fox show outdraws the concurrent Paramount show. (1964)

39 years ago - The Beatles release the single, "Yesterday/Act Naturally." This is also the day they win their first Grammy -- for Best Group and for their "A Hard Days Night" LP. (1965)

39 years ago - Ringo Starr and his wife Maureen give birth to son, Zak. (1965)

35 years ago - John Lennon and Yoko Ono's Plastic Ono Band, which included Eric Clapton on guitar, makes a surprise live debut at the Rock n' Roll Revival Concert in Toronto. The concert is recorded for the live album, "Live Peace in Toronto." (1969)

35 years ago - Santana's debut album enters the LP chart. (1969)

30 years ago - Stevie Wonder starts his first tour since his near-fatal car accident at the Nassau Coliseum in Long Island. The night before a bash is held in Wonder's honor at Delmonico's Hotel. Among the attendees were Mick Jagger, Roberta Flack, Dudley Moore and Andy Warhol. (1974)

29 years ago - Bruce Springsteen's "Born To Run" LP enters the chart. (1975)

28 years ago - Peter Frampton's fourth solo album, "Frampton", goes gold. It's his commercial breakthrough album containing the hits "Show Me the Way" and "Baby I Love Your Way." (1976)

28 years ago - Singer Fiona Apple is born. (1976)

24 years ago - Jackson Browne has the first Number One album of his career with the platinum "Hold Out," his first LP in well over two years. (1980)

22 years ago - RCA Records announces David Bowie has left for the South Seas where he'll begin filming "Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence." It's a World War II drama by noted Japanese director Nagisa Oshima, who did "In the Realm of the Senses," a film which sparked much controversy in the U.S. because of the way it portrayed various sexual perversities. (1982)

21 years ago - Huey Lewis and the News' "Sports" LP is released. (1983)

19 years ago - Sting begins his first solo tour in San Diego in support of his album, "Dream Of The Blue Turtles." (1985)

15 years ago - Bruce Springsteen records "Viva Las Vegas" for the Elvis Presley tribute album, "The Last Temptation of Elvis." (1989)

15 years ago - Sting makes his stage debut in the Threepenny Opera in Washington, D.C. to poor reviews. (1989)

13 years ago - Alice Cooper sells copies of his new record, "Hey Stoopid" for 99 cents in New York's Times Square. (1991)

11 years ago - "Late Night with Conan O'Brien" makes its premiere on NBC. E Street Band drummer Max Weinberg is the show's band leader with the Max Weinberg 7. (1993)

8 years ago - Rapper Tupac Shakur dies in a Las Vegas hospital -- six days after suffering gun shot wounds while inside a Mercedes. (1996)


That Girl Could Sing - Jackson Browne

She was a friend to me when I needed one
Wasn't for her I don't know what I'd done
She gave me back something that was missing in me
She could of turned out to be almost anyone
Almost anyone...
With the possible exception
Of who I wanted her to be

Running into the midnight
With her clothes whipping in the wind
Reaching into the heart of the darkness
For the tenderness within
Stumblin' into the lights of the city
And then back in the shadows again
Hanging onto the laughter
That each of us hid our unhappiness in

Talk about celestial bodies
And your angels on the wing
She wasn't much good at stickin' around...but
She could sing...

In the dead of night
She could shine a light
On some places that you've never been
In that kind of light
You could lose your sight
And believe there was something to win
You could hold her tight
With all your might
But she'd slip through your arms like the wind
And be back in flight
Back into the night
Where you might never see her again

The longer I thought I could find her
The shorter my vision became
Running in circles behind her
And thinking in terms of the blame
But she couldn't have been any kinder
If she'd come back and tried to explain
She wasn't much good a saying goodbye...but
That girl was sane


A blonde came running up to her husband in the driveway as he
came home from work just jumping for joy. He didn't know why
she was jumping for joy but thought, what the heck, and started
jumping up and down with her.

When she said, "Honey, I have some really great news for

He said, "Great, tell me what you're so happy about!"

She stopped jumping and was breathing heavily from all the
jumping up and down, when she told him that she was pregnant!

He was ecstatic! They had been trying for awhile. He kissed her
and told her, "That's great! I couldn't be happier!"

Then, she said, "Oh, honey, there's more!"

He asked, "What do you mean, 'more'?"

She said, "Well, we are not having just one baby, we are going
to have TWINS!"

Amazed at how she could know so soon after getting pregnant,
he asked her how she knew.

She said, "Well, that was the easy part. I went to Wal-Mart and
bought the twin pack home pregnancy test kit and BOTH tests
came out positive!"


Here are the Top Fifteen Tunes in Chicago
on September 12, 1964:

The House Of The Rising Sun-Animals
Remember (Walkin' In The Sand)-Shangri-Las
Oh, Pretty Woman-Roy Orbison & the Candy Men
Where Did Our Love Go-Supremes
Because-Dave Clark Five
Last Kiss-J. Frank Wilson & the Cavaliers
Do Wah Diddy Diddy-Manfred Mann
Everybody Loves Somebody-Dean Martin
Car Hop-Exports
A Summer Song-Chad Stuart & Jeremy Clyde
Under The Boardwalk-Drifters
Bread And Butter-Newbeats
It Hurts To Be In Love-Gene Pitney
A Hard Day's Night-Beatles
G.T.O.-Ronny & the Daytonas


Out on the road today I saw a DEADHEAD
Sticker on a Cadillac.
A little voice inside my head said:
"Don't look back, you can never look back."

Another week, another day in paradise.........

Red Oak

Message: 35549 Posted: Sun Sep 12 23:48:13 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: 50s Is Fine

Woke up this Monday morning, turned on the radio and "I Need You" by America was playing. At the end of the song, the DJ said, 'For the birthday boy' I thought-Gerry! but then he said, '60 today - Peter Cetera of "Chicago" and proceeded to play "If You Leave Me Now".

Hey Gerry, I stopped listening after he said 60!


Message: 35548 Posted: Sun Sep 12 21:34:54 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Robert Haimer/Listening Party

The listening party chatters had a surprise guest last evening, Robert Haimer, half of Barnes & Barnes. Robert helped write a number of songs for America, including Hell's On Fire and Nothing's So Far Away As Yesterday. Robert, thanks for joining us, and you're welcome back anytime!

Message: 35547 Posted: Sun Sep 12 19:53:30 2004 By: Kade
Subject: Re: HB Gerry and a cute related story---oops

"My fathers told me that I was right ".....My father....I only have one!

Message: 35546 Posted: Sun Sep 12 19:50:23 2004 By: Kade
Subject: HB Gerry and a cute related story

My parents are staying with us for a week since they live in Palm Beach and have been w/out electricity and phones since Frances hit there.When I came down to their room this morning I asked what they wanted to do today. Their response was that we needed to order a birthday cake. My sons seventeenth birthday is next week and I couldn't imagine why they would suggest a cake now. So I told them that Gerry Beckley's birthday was today.They know I've been a big fan since I was a young teen and tease me alittle about this! My fathers told me that I was right and that he was 52 today. They really stumped me on how they knew this info , then I noticed that they were watching CNN. I asked, and they confirmed, that it had run along under the bottom ticker earlier this morning under "today's birthdays"! Very cool!! Happy Birthday Gerry...from the whole family!

Message: 35545 Posted: Sun Sep 12 18:29:47 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Light Bulb

Apple pie for dessert?

Message: 35544 Posted: Sun Sep 12 18:23:09 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Light Bulb

I just figured something out. I'm not an America groupie. I'm a Season Ticket Holder!! Tailgate, anyone? Anyone?

Message: 35543 Posted: Sun Sep 12 18:19:50 2004 By: Shirley
Subject: Happy Birthday

I don't want to be the only one who didn't, so, Happy Birthday, Mr. Beckley!

Message: 35542 Posted: Sun Sep 12 17:59:44 2004 By: Joan
Subject: Birthday Wishes

Have a very Happy Birthday Gerry!

Message: 35541 Posted: Sun Sep 12 16:01:46 2004 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Gerry

Happy Birthday Gerry! Have a great day...we really hope to see you in Reno this year!!
Erin :o)

Message: 35540 Posted: Sun Sep 12 15:37:36 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Gerry

Happy Happy

Message: 35539 Posted: Sun Sep 12 13:56:19 2004 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Happy Birthday Gerry

Gerry, Happy Birthday to you!!!! Hope today and every day is filled with happiness. Also, belated Happy Anniversary wishes to you and Kathy.

Message: 35538 Posted: Sun Sep 12 13:38:25 2004 By: Danae
Subject: Happy B-day Gerry

Happy Birthday Mr. Beckley!
Hope all your dreams come true.

Message: 35537 Posted: Sun Sep 12 13:09:58 2004 By: AmericanGirl
Subject: Gerry's Birthday

Wishing Gerry a very, very Happy Birthday!!!

Message: 35536 Posted: Sun Sep 12 10:47:35 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Listening Party Reminder

Just a reminder that in celebration of Gerry's birthday, tonight's listening party will feature his great solo work, Van Go Gan. 10PM EDT, 7PM PDT, hope you can make it! Hey Gerry, why don't you join us?

Message: 35535 Posted: Sun Sep 12 10:45:44 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Happy Birthday Gerry

Dear Gerry:

I hope this birthday is your happiest one yet, and may all your wishes and dreams come true.


Message: 35534 Posted: Sun Sep 12 10:44:43 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: DVD Photos

Thanks, Bluey, for sending Steve those photos. And thank you, Steve, for posting them for us. They look great. Now, when do we get the DVD?
I'm getting very impatient! Haven't seen you guys since July. This would at least appease me a bit till I see you in October at the Birchmere!!

Message: 35533 Posted: Sun Sep 12 10:26:59 2004 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: 9/12

Happy Birthday Gerry. Hope it is a good one.


Message: 35532 Posted: Sun Sep 12 08:25:04 2004 By: TommieGirl
Subject: 9/12

Happy birthday, Gerry! I hope your day is as happy as your music has always made me.

Good to meet you Patricia! Hope you get to Wednesday night chat sometime!

It's hard to hear news like that, isn't it Danae? You're in my thoughts.

Have a great weekend all -


Message: 35531 Posted: Sun Sep 12 07:15:22 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Yeppers Happy Birthday ... from the younger set!

Hi there Everyone :)

Nice Post Nina :) ~~~ Yesterday I read Lyz Glick's news interview with the Today Show, and on the MSNBC site there was also a part of her new book called "Your Father's Voice" ~~Wow ~ What an Awesome way for her to Carry on her husband Jeremy's Love & Life for their 3 year old daughter Emmy,(she was only 3 mths old,when her daddy died as one of the Heroes that took over the HiJackers aboard Flight 93, that went down in Shanksville, PA) ~~I Hope to get her book soon! :) ~~Nice way to help brighten your neice and nephews day, by telling them about Gerry's b'day! :)

Hey there Gerry ~~ I too had posted my B'day wishes to you yesterday, and later in the afternoon, I had my 4 yr old niece Melina & her sis Breanna here at my house, I used to watch Melina quite a bit and there were many a days we listened to AMERICA's songs together...she especially took a liking to the song "Head & Heart" and she and Aunt Nanny (she always calls me this) sang it together many times... well she asked me to put on this song yesterday, and I said to her Guess who's b'day is tomorrow, she said who, and I said Gerry Beckley's, she looked at me and smiled and she said can I type on the puter Aunt Nanny (oooooh noooo, look out she is gonna have ramblin fingertips too:), soooo she and I sang Happy Birthday to You then! :) ~~~Soooo Nice that a whole new Generation of AMERICA fans are gonna be out there loving you guys! :) Have a Great day! &&&&&&& THANKS sooo much for the Nice Surprise VFTHW Pic from Pittsburgh PA that Steve L Posted yesterday ~~~WOW that was a nice Lonnnnnnnnnng View you had there, and I Smiled when I saw the ROLLING Green Hills in the distant background :) Hmmm PA sure has Lots of them Overlapping,Rolling Green Hills! ~~Thanks for this pic! I have it saved to my comp. and as a Background on my comp.... :) ~~I sure Hope that in Some Way we give back to You, for all the little things you do for us! :)

Nice Song Lyrics Mark M! :) ~~A Nice way to bring in Sept 12th!

Hey there Mo ~~Tooo Much, sooo this is why we haven't heard from you for awhile... Lucky You heading out to then Cleveland Pic last week!Nice :) I checked out your pics late,late last night, and ENJOYED them, Thanks, thanks, thanks :) ~~ I also enjoyed the Happy Smiles on your kids pics from their first days of school... :) Lots of Memory Keepsakes captured in these pics Huh!!!! :)

Last but definitely not least ~~ Thanks Bluey, Margaret & Son for the Nice Visual Pleasures, you all sent to Steve to share with us... I really was smiling when I saw My MOST Fave Pic of Gerry & Dewey in the window frame found on this Sydney DVD package of Bluey's ~~~Yeppers Still Best Friends after all these Years! ~~That is how I feel about the whole AMERICA Package,and I am sooooo Grateful to Have it as a Part of Me!!!!! HOPEFULLY we won't have to wait tooo long to get this here in the States! :)

Hmmm ~~Just wanted to add to Steve L & patricia's thoughts extended to Erin, I hope all is well with your home there in Fla. and just like Jen, I Hope Ivan is the last hurricane for this year... Thanks for all you do for us fans too! Take care :)

HiHoooo Red ~~ Did you watch the Nascar race from Richmond, VA last night? ~~Mark Martin's car is running strong... he sure has maintained a spot in the top 10 the last couple of weeks, I sure wish he would win a Championship before he retires, he definitely deserves one! :) ~~ Hmmm Only one more week to go and You, Mrs Red, & your daughter & hubby will be heading to see the Don Henley Show in Springfield, Mo ~Nice :)

Have a great day everyone ~~ Wish me luck on getting my VCR to successfully tape Dan Fogelberg's Soundstage at 5 am tomorrow morning.. I wanna seee this sooo much! See ya, Nancy :)~~~Looking Forward to listening to Gerry's Van Go Gan tonight in honor of his b'day! ~~Ahhhh what a Kiss of Life! :)

~~~~There will be no more confusion, there will be no more ball and chain, I will cease with the illusions, and I will ask of you the sameeee, when U love someone, it's gonna take some timeeee, Come on and Saveeee Meeee, save meeee, pull me from deep water, give the Kiss of life, Now is the MOMENT Treasured, breathe the Kiss of Life intoooo the words we speak, intooooo the words we speak, they come across the meadow, like a sloooow moving train, lonnnng determination over everrrry name, when U Love someone, it's gonna take some time, comeeeee onnnn and save meee, saveeee me, pull me from deep water, give the Kiss of Life, now is the Moment treasured, breathe the Kiss of Life intoooo the words we speak, intoooo the words we speak Yeah ahhhhhh ~~~Ooooh this song, Sing it oneday at a show for Us Gerry Please! :) :):)

Message: 35530 Posted: Sun Sep 12 07:13:49 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, history, Lyrics & PC Gender

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 12, 2004

52 years ago Gerry Beckley, vocalist for America is born. (1952)

39 years ago - The Beatles "Yesterday" is released in the U.S. They also appear this evening on Ed Sullivan in a segment taped before a live audience a month earlier. (1965)

38 years ago - The Beatles receive a gold record for "Yellow Submarine." (1966)

38 years ago - The Monkees television show premieres on NBC. The show depicts the zany adventures of a loveable long-haired rock band-obviously modeled after the Beatles and their film, "A Hard Days Night." The group consists of Davy Jones, Mike Nesmith, Peter Tork and Mickey Dolenz and at first they sang but did not play any of the instruments. The television show would remain on the air through 1969. (1966)

34 years ago - "Josie and the Pussycats," a Saturday morning cartoon about an all girl band, debuts on CBS. It runs through September 1972. (1970)

34 years ago - More than 18,000 people attended the Woody Guthrie memorial concert at the Hollywood Bowl. Among the performers were Bob Dylan, Joan Baez and Woody's son, Arlo. (1970)

34 years ago - James Taylor's "Fire and Rain" is released. (1970)

34 years ago - Chicago's "25 or 6 to 4" peaks at #4 on the pop singles chart. (1970)

32 years ago - Oasis singer Liam Gallagher is born. (1972)

27 years ago - South African anti-apartheid activist Stephen Biko dies at age 30. Peter Gabriel later writes his classic song, "Biko" about him. (1977)

23 years ago - The Four Tops, who bolted Motown after many years to record with Casablanca Records, enter the soul LP charts with "Tonight!" It will peak at #5. It enters the pop LP chart and reaches #37. The single off the record, "When She Was My Girl," hits #11 pop and Number One soul for two weeks. (1981)

17 years ago - Morrisey leaves The Smiths for a solo career. (1987)

17 years ago - Los Lobos' version of Ritchie Valens' "La Bamba" hits #1 on the singles chart. (1987)

14 years ago - Christine McVie and Stevie Nicks both announce that they'll no longer perform with Fleetwood Mac. A little over two years later, they reunite with the group to sing at President Clinton's inauguration. Four years after that, they reunite for an MTV Unplugged special, which leads to a #1 album and immensely successful concert tour. (1990)

12 years ago - U2's "Even Better Than The Real Thing" peaks at #32 on the singles chart. (1992)

12 years ago - Eric Clapton's "Unplugged" LP enters the chart. The record would go on to win the Grammy for Album of the Year, with sales reaching over 7 million. (1992)

12 years ago - The "Honeymoon In Vegas" soundtrack enters the LP chart. The soundtrack features all Elvis covers as performed by Billy Joel, John Mellencamp, Bono and others. (1992)

8 years ago - Oasis abruptly canceled its U.S. tour two-thirds of the way into it. The band said it was due to "internal differences." (1996)


James Taylor - Fire And Rain

Just yesterday morning they let me know you were gone
Susanne the plans they made put an end to you
I walked out this morning and I wrote down this song
I just can't remember who to send it to

I've seen fire and I've seen rain
I've seen sunny days that I thought would never end
I've seen lonely times when I could not find a friend
But I always thought that I'd see you again

Won't you look down upon me, Jesus
You've got to help me make a stand
You've just got to see me through another day
My body's aching and my time is at hand
And I won't make it any other way

Oh, I've seen fire and I've seen rain
I've seen sunny days that I thought would never end
I've seen lonely times when I could not find a friend
But I always thought that I'd see you again

Been walking my mind to an easy time my back turned towards the sun
Lord knows when the cold wind blows it'll turn your head around
Well, there's hours of time on the telephone line to talk about things
to come
Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground

Oh, I've seen fire and I've seen rain
I've seen sunny days that I thought would never end
I've seen lonely times when I could not find a friend
But I always thought that I'd see you, baby, one more time again, now

Thought I'd see you one more time again
There's just a few things coming my way this time around, now
Thought I'd see you, thought I'd see you fire and rain, now


Subject: Computers - male or female?

A language instructor was explaining to her class that French nouns,
unlike their English counterparts, are grammatically designated as
masculine or feminine. Things like 'chalk' or 'pencil,' she described, would have a gender association although in English these words were neutral.

Puzzled, one student raised his hand and asked, "What gender is a

The teacher wasn't certain which it was, and so divided the class into two groups and asked them to decide if a computer should be masculine or feminine. One group was comprised of the women in the class, and the other, of men. Both groups were asked to give four reasons for their recommendation.

The group of women concluded that computers should be referred to in the masculine gender because:

1. In order to get their attention, you have to turn them on.
2. They have a lot of data but are still clueless.
3. They are supposed to help you solve your problems, but half the time they ARE the problem.
4. As soon as you commit to one, you realize that, if you had waited a little longer, you could have had a better model.

The men, on the other hand, decided that computers should definitely be referred to in the feminine gender because:

1. No one but their creator understands their internal logic.
2. The native language they use to communicate with other computers is incomprehensible to everyone else.
3. Even your smallest mistakes are stored in long-term memory for later retrieval.
4. As soon as you make a commitment to one, you find yourself spending half your pay check on accessories for it.


Have a Happy Birthday, Gerry!!!!!!!!!!

Red Oak

Message: 35529 Posted: Sun Sep 12 06:35:31 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday, Gerry!

Happy birthday :0)
Mark M

Message: 35528 Posted: Sun Sep 12 06:05:53 2004 By: Nina
Subject: Happy Birthday...from the younger set!

My birthday wishes have already been sent to you, Gerry, for a terrific day...but after a conversation with two of my favorite people yesterday, I have to carry through on a promise I made to the younger set!

The 9/11 rememberances were all over the TV yesterday, and everywhere niece and nephew seemed to go there was conversation about the towers, etc. So auntie took the opportunity to raise their spirits a little bit with the knowlege that even though 9/11 is a very sad is followed by a wonderfully HAPPY day on 9/12! When they looked at each other puzzled about Sept. 12th, I told them the 12th was Gerry Beckley's birthday and that it was a reason to celebrate, not to be sad!

So I send these messages to you Gerry, compliments of two of your biggest, littlest fans? Ages 5 and 8, respectively!

Niece says: "Happy Birthday, Ger Ger!" "I love you!" "Is he going to have a cake?"
(Hey, the variation of the name is even worse for Dewey!)

Nephew says: (and I paraphrase) Yeah, tell him happy birthday from me too...but don't make it sound corny...and call him Gerry in MY message, NOT Ger old is he anyway?...why haven't they come to play around here?...we're not going to get to see them this year, are we Auntie?" (I told nephew I'll keep checking, but that it didn't look too good for an AMerica concert this year...maybe next... but a DVD was coming, soon and maybe by Christmas we'd have it.)

Niece chimes in: "Don't they like you anymore, Auntie?"

I'm afraid to get the answer to that one!!!

Hope the sun is shining on you wherever you are today!

Message: 35527 Posted: Sun Sep 12 05:16:40 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Happy Birthday, Gerry!

Hey, I believe that that a gorgeous, blond, blue-eyed guy with glasses is celebrating a birthday today. OMG, Gerry, it's you! Have a very happy day! Just don't party too hard!

Message: 35526 Posted: Sun Sep 12 04:54:42 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Happy Birthday, Gerry!

Here's wishing you a very happy day, Gerry! May the coming year bring you all good things and be everything you hope it to be. You make the world a brighter place with your wonderful music, your sense of humor, your sincerity, and just being you! Thanks for all you do. Karen

Message: 35525 Posted: Sun Sep 12 01:00:50 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Gerry and Welcome Patricia

Gerry, just wanted to send Birthday wishes for a great day! I actually heard a rare gem today "Only in your Heart" along with a DJ announcing Birthday wishes and for a few others too. Well, it's not so rare but we just don't hear that one as often as some others in my area.

Welcome Patricia, nice to hear from you! Must be busy and tough times being an Insurance agent or claims adjuster in your area with so many hurricane's this year. Hopefully Ivan is the last of them!
Hearts.... we have over a couple dozen Hearts sculptures spread out in my area for a Fundraising charity donation type of thing. All the tourists seem to love to pose by them. Everywhere I go I seem to see hearts!


Message: 35524 Posted: Sat Sep 11 22:46:37 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: post 9/11

"Sunrise dosn't last all morning
a cloudburst dosn't last all day
Seems my love is up,
and left you with no warning
but it's not always gong to be this way
All things must pass, all things must pass away

Sunset dosn't last all evening
a mind can blow those clouds away
After all this my love is up and must be leaving
but it's not always going to be this grey
All things must pass, all things must pass away

All things must pass
none of lifes strings can last
so,I must be on my way
and face another day

Now the darkness only stays at night time
in the morning it will fade away
Daylight is good at arriving at the right time
no it's not always going to be this grey
All things must pass
all things must pass away

"George Harrison"
Have a good 9/12
Mark M

Message: 35523 Posted: Sat Sep 11 21:54:46 2004 By: Robyn

Hope you have the happiest of days Mr. B! ( I know I will as a freind of mine called me and offered me a pair of RARE Dodger tickets--OH YEAH are you with me in spirit Janice?????)

Welcome to the family Patricia. Like all good families we are a bit disfunctional ( but if you have been reading the folder you ALREADY know that) but our Hearts are in the right place ( after Homecoming and before Hideaway)

Message: 35522 Posted: Sat Sep 11 20:45:24 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Sept 11

Hi Goanna
that's ok....I just hope she dosn't ever have to write another like it. :(
Mo, Cleveland does rock !! I was there for a couple of years when I was younger, back in 76. "Paul McCartney and Wings" played a couple shows when I was there....and I never got to go !!! OUCH !
Mark M

Message: 35521 Posted: Sat Sep 11 20:26:03 2004 By: patricia

Gerry, Wishing you a truely wonderful birthday and hoping all of your wishes come true! Thank you so very much for putting a smile on my face with your sweet voice and the thought of your beautiful smile. We love you! Again, Happy Birthday!

Thanks to everyone for the warm welcome to the chat folder! Everyone seems really nice and I really enjoy hearing about all of you and your day to day lives and our mutual adoration for America. If anyone cares to know, I live in Charleston, S.C. I'm a single mother of a 12 year old daughter, we have 1 dog, 1 hamster, lots of fish and i'm an insurance agent. The job isn't much fun this time of year with all of the hurricane activity. Erin, hope Ivan doesn't come too close to you and you stay safe!

Message: 35520 Posted: Sat Sep 11 20:23:01 2004 By: Goanna
Subject: Re: Sept 11

Hi Mark,

My appologies to everyone,,,, the Author of the poem is Pamela Joy.

I should have acknowledged this at the bottom of the poem. sorry...

Message: 35519 Posted: Sat Sep 11 19:00:39 2004 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Cleveland Indeed Rocks

Oh and YES Mo! Ur pics do rock too.

Message: 35518 Posted: Sat Sep 11 18:42:36 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Re: Cleveland Indeed Rocks

Hi Mo! Glad to see that you made it to Cleveland! Did you go to both shows? Nice photos, as usual! I especially like the one of "Dewey's" eating place from your summer vacation. I also somehow happened upon the ones of the Junior Buftons and enjoyed seeing them, too. Looks like you had a busy week with an AMERICA concert and school starting for the kids! The week before was just like that for me. Hope you had a good time at the show(s)! Karen

Message: 35517 Posted: Sat Sep 11 18:35:15 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: Cleveland Indeed Rocks

Mo, you lucky dog, you! The photos are just fantastic! Where is the review, girl, to go with the photos? Any change in the playlist? What did Gerry have to say? Come on, I'm dying to know!
Birchmere, Birchmere, Birchmere!
I just loved the "Junior" photos, too!

Message: 35516 Posted: Sat Sep 11 18:16:33 2004 By: Genevieve
Subject: Another Happy one!

As it is sunday, around 4am here in France... it is my privilege to be one of the first to wish Gerry a HAPPY,HAPPY,HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
Also sending my love to the band and my fellow fans.

Message: 35515 Posted: Sat Sep 11 17:18:41 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Cleveland Indeed Rocks


Message: 35514 Posted: Sat Sep 11 16:45:26 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: DVD Photos

Thanks to Bluey and Margaret (with the help of her son) I have photos of the new DVD cover and the promotional postcard that came with it. Click here to see the photos on the "Live At The Sydney Opera House" DVD web page.

Message: 35513 Posted: Sat Sep 11 15:52:02 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Re: The Greek 11/09

I am sorry to hear that, Danae. What a terrible thing to happen.

Message: 35512 Posted: Sat Sep 11 13:17:21 2004 By: Danae
Subject: Re: The Greek 11/09

All the bodies were collected. Everyone was dead. The pilot, the Patriarch, his assistants... No one escaped.

Message: 35511 Posted: Sat Sep 11 12:10:53 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - Pittsburgh

Click here to see the view from Gerry's hotel window in Pittsburgh, PA.

Message: 35510 Posted: Sat Sep 11 11:30:17 2004 By: KevinS.
Subject: New DVD.

I was wondering, on what label is the new DVD released?

Did it come from America's own Human Nature Records, or from someone else?

Thanks for the info.


Message: 35509 Posted: Sat Sep 11 11:12:48 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: The Greek 11/09

Hi Danae :)

Sorry to hear the sad news there in Greece today! I just wanted to extend my thoughts and prayers for some good news to come from this yet, regarding the Patriarch. :)

PS~ It was nice to see your email to me the other day, I Hope you got my reply back to you. Thanks, Take care, Nancy :)

Message: 35508 Posted: Sat Sep 11 10:08:40 2004 By: Danae
Subject: The Greek 11/09

Today morning, the helicopter that carried the Patriarch of Alexandria and his assistant to Agion Oros (Holly Mountain -area of Greece in the north, where there are only monasteries. Women are not allowed in this area) disappeared. It carried 14 people.
The helicopter was found ruined. Four dead bodies are taken out of the sea. The Patriarch isn't found yet.

Message: 35507 Posted: Sat Sep 11 10:04:21 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Re: DVD ~Sept 11 ~History~ & some more!

Hi Everyone :) Such a Gorgeous Day here in PA ~ My thoughts take me back to this very day 3 years ago and it was a day much like today, cept there is one big difference, it was sooo still, calm & quiet the morning of 9-11. ~~ About 4 weeks ago my Hubby & I went to visit the Flight 93 site. It was a hazy day and when we got out of bessieloohoo the Explorer, I noticed that same Stillness,that same Quietness that was present the morning of 9-11. There were lots of people there, as we all walked and looked at all of the messages and items left by visitors to this temporary Memorial site. Not a word was heard, even tho this time has passed since this tragic day, this Moment in time still is here, it probably always will be, how could we ever forget this Horrific Day. ~ They had a Picture book of pics taken at the scene of this plane crash and now to look out at this spot, you can hardly tell that this ever happened, there is a Big Flag that marks the spot where the nose hit the ground,and when standing and reading the Marble Plaque with all that were on this flight 93, it is perfectly in line with this flag. One thing about the morning of 9-11 here outside my house, not a bird was singing that morning, same thing with this memorial site...but as I stood there reading a poem written by one of the flight members family, I heard a tiny buzzing sound, and I looked up and a Hummingbird flew past me ~~ toooo much~for sure! :) ~~ Thanks Bluey & Goanna for your 9-11 messages,one thing about this Tragic day in History, is that it showed just how much we all are there for each other at a time like this! Nice huh! :)

Happy Anniversary to Gerry & Kathy ~~ Just to say I wish you many more happy, healthy years together, filled with all the Simple Moments that bring real happiness! :)

Hmmmmm ~ Tomorrow is your Birthday Gerry, wow this past year sure as flown by, it was just last year we were all posting our Poems to you for your birthday. It was sooo nice of Karen L to put them into booklet form and give them to You (your poems) & Dewey(his poems), I Hope reading these Still Brings SMILES your way! ~~ Sooo Happy Birthday Gerry, I hope your day is filled with all that makes you Happy! Take care and Enjoy! :)

Hey there Reddddd ~~Sure were lots of History Happenings on this day over the years, WOW! Lots of great songs mentioned among them too! ~ Upon checking out the airtime for the Don Fogelberg Soundstage here in my area, I noticed that the hour right before Dan's show, is a Great Performance show called "John Lennon's Jukebox" on my WPSX guide it says that In 1989a Bristol music promoter purchasedat auction an old Discomatic jukebox once owned by John Lennon in the 1960's. It also says this is adelightful new documentary tracking down Lennon's early musical heroes. ~ The air time for me here is 4-5am for John Lennon's Jukebox and 5- 6 am for Dan Fogelbergs Soundstage... Why they have to come on at such an early morning hour is no fair... I sure hope I can get the VCR to cooperate with me in setting this to tape, it has been soo out of whack, since last winter, with all of the short power outages...

Hi Nina ~ I'm glad you were able to get to see & hear this Dan F Show, I am More than Sure I am gonna be in Dan Fogelberg Heaven getting to watch it, he has soooo many great gems. :)

Hi Patricia ~Welcome aboard the chat folder, I too was going to tell you to go to and click on Soundstage and then put your zipcode in and do a search for a channel listing in your area. You can also go to and there is a place there to read and leave a message for Dan, on his homepage Dan himself has posted a message regarding his Prostrate cancer. Nice that you got to see Dan do an accoustic show, I too one day would love to see one of his live shows. ~~ Hope to hear more from you, this chat folder is a fun place to get lost in and to let your fingers ramble on! :)

Cheers Spurs & Bluey ~~ I enjoyed reading your posts about the Sydney DVD, soooo glad that all of you Aussie fans have it and are enjoying it.. Jimbob will probably be the next one to have it released there in New Zealand, and Hopefully we won't have to wait much longer for word of the availability here in the States.. I can say One Thing I am More than Ready to have it here to hit the Replay button on. ~~Keep on enjoying it! :)

Ooooops I can't forget to say Thanks Steve L & Gerry for the Nice take Me Away VFTHW pic from Robinsonville, MS ~~Wow what a Relaxing view! Thanks for the Get Away Visual it left me with! :)

Thanks again for all of the B'day wishes sent my way :)Everyone!

Hmmm my Friday jam was listening to the "Definitive AMERICA" CD, I sure love this magic collection of songs... I had it turned up Loud in Bessielooohoo all the way to my cousins Scrapbooking workshop and Home... You can betcha I was a Smilin & Singing along with these gems! :)

Take care all and enjoy the rest of your weekend! ~~ WOW here on my Sirius Movin'EZ channel playing is Ventura Hwy ~ Nice timing huh! ~~~doodododododododooddo dodoodododdoodododoo ~~Everyone sing along with me now.. :) See ya, Nancy :) ;)

Message: 35506 Posted: Sat Sep 11 07:27:13 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics &

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 11, 2004

44 years ago - Jimmy Charles' "A Million to One" enters the R&B chart. It peaks at #8 and makes it up to #5 on the pop chart. It's his only hit. (1960)

42 years ago - Seven days after starting their first recording sessions, the Beatles cut two Lennon/McCarthy tunes, "Love Me Do" and "P.S. I Love You." Producer George Martin insisted session drummer Andy White sit in on the chance that new percussionist Ringo Starr doesn't work out. He, of course, does. (1962)

41 years ago - A two-record "bootleg" set of Bob Dylan songs, called "The Great White Wonder" first appears in a Los Angeles record store. It's believed to be the first bootleg album. (1963)

40 years ago - Beatle George Harrison forms his own song publishing company, Harrissongs. (1964)

39 years ago - The Rolling Stones hit #1 in England with "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction." (1965)

39 years ago - The Beatles' LP, "Help!" hits #1 -- a position it will hold for 9 weeks. (1965)

39 years ago - The Gentry's "Keep on Dancing" enters the Hot 100 where it stays for 13 weeks. It get up to #4. It will be the group's biggest hit. (1965)

38 years ago - The Rolling Stones perform on Ed Sullivan. Guitarist Brian Jones goes on despite a cast on his right hand which he broke in a fall in Tangier. (1966)

37 years ago - The Beatles's "All You Need Is Love" is certified as a million-seller. (1967)

37 years ago - The Beatles' "Magical Mystery Tour" bus begins cruising the English countryside carrying the group and other actors and friends, all involved in making the short film for the BBC. Songs from the film will be relased later on an album of the same name. (1967)

36 years ago - Arriving in London for a tour of the U.K., Sly and the Family Stone bassist Larry Graham is picked up by police for possession of cannabis. The BBC cancels the group's television appearance and a London hotel refuses to honor the band's reservations. (1968)

33 years ago - George Harrison's "Bangla-Desh" peaks at #23 on the singles chart while Rare Earth's "I Just Wanna Celebrate" peaks at #7. (1971)

33 years ago - Donny Osmond's "Go Away Little Girl" hits Number One. The song was Number One for Steve Lawrence in 1963 and peaked at #12 for the Happenings in 1966. (1971)

33 years ago - "The Jackson Five" animated TV series debuts on ABC. The show features the voices of the five brothers. (1971)

30 years ago - Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, the Band and Joni Mitchell play London's 80,000-plus seat Wembley Stadium. (1974)

29 years ago - Aerosmith's self-titled debut album goes gold. (1975)

29 years ago - Janis Ian earns her first gold record for the album "Between the Lines." The album contains her single "At Seventeen," which is climbing the charts and will peak at Number Three. (1975)

27 years ago - Bernie Taupin, known better as Elton John's lyricist, makes his television acting debut on ABC's "The Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew meet Dracula." He plays the leader of a band called Circus. (1977)

27 years ago - David Bowie accepts Bing Crosby's invitation to appear as a special guest on Bing's annual Christmas television special. Bowie and Bing sing duets on "Little Drummer Boy" and "Peace on Earth." The songs are recorded for Crosby's album Merrie Olde Christmas LP. (1977)

25 years ago - The Who make their first U.S. concert performance since the loss of drummer Keith Moon. It's at the Capitol Theatre in Passaic, New Jersey and with Kenny Jones on drums. (1979)

25 years ago - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers begin a U.S. tour playing with a giant backdrop that says, "Why MCA?" referring to the fact that the label they had been recording for had been sold to MCA Records. (1979)

22 years ago - John Cougar's "American Fool" LP tops the chart. Cougar thus becomes the first artist in over a year and a half to have the Number One album, "American Fool," and two singles in the Top Ten, "Jack & Diane" and "Hurt So Good," in the same week. Michael Jackson accomplished the feat in 1981 with two hits off his "Off the Wall" LP. (1983)

22 years ago - "Valley Girl" by Frank Zappa and his daughter Moon Unit peaks at #32 on the singles chart. (1982)

22 years ago - Chicago's "Hard To Say I'm Sorry" hits #1 on the singles chart while Billy Idol's "Hot In The City" peaks at #23. (1982)

20 years ago - Bruce Springsteen breaks the attendance record at Philadelphia's Spectrum when 16,800 fans attend the first of six sold-out shows. (1984)

17 years ago - Peter Gabriel's "Sledgehammer" video wins MTV's "Best Video" award.

17 years ago - Geffen releases Elton John's "Greatest Hits Volume 3." (1987)

17 years ago - Reggae star Peter Tosh is shot and killed in his home in Kingston, Jamaica. Police say Tosh was shot in the head after he refused to give money to robbers. (1987)

14 years ago - George Michael's second solo album, "Listen Without Prejudice" is released. (1990)

11 years ago - The "Bob Dylan - The 30th Anniversary Concert Celebration" album enters the chart. It features Dylan songs as played by Neil Young, John Mellencamp, Tom Petty, Chrissie Hynde, Eddie Vedder and more. (1993)

9 years ago - Green Day tells a British magazine that they turned down an invitation to perform on "Sesame Street" because "we couldn't handle a mosh pit full of 5 year olds." (1995)

8 years ago - For the first time, a new single by a major recording artist is released exclusively on the Internet. David Bowie's "Telling Lies" is released on Bowie's web site, where it was available for 24 hours. (1996)

8 years ago - INXS lead singer Michael Hutchence pleads guilty to hitting a photographer and was fined $600. The photographer was taking Hutchence's picture outside a hotel where Hutchence had spent the night with the estranged wife of Bob Geldof. Hutchence and the woman have since married. (1996)


John Cougar Mellencamp - Jack & Diane

Little ditty about Jack and Diane
Two American kids growin' up in the heartland
Jackie gonna be a football star
Diane debutante backseat of Jackie's car

Suckin' on chili dogs outside the tastee freeze
Diane's sittin' on Jackie's lap
He's got his hand between her knees
Jackie say, "Hey Diane let's run off
Behind a shady tree
Dribble off those Bobby Brooks
Let me do what I please."
And Jackie say

Oh yeah life goes on
Long after the thrill of livin is gone
Oh yeay say life goes on
Long after the thrill of livin is gone, they walk on

Jackie sits back reflects his thoughts for the moment
Scratches his head and does his best James Dean.
Well you know Diane, we oughta run off to the city
Diane says "Baby, you ain't missin' nuth-in"
Jackie say-a


Gonna let it rock
Let it roll
Let the Bible Belt come and
Save my soul
Hold on to sixteen as long as you can
Changes come around real soon
Make us women and men

Little ditty about Jack and Diane
Two American kids done the best they can


I was working on getting reservations for the 4th Joke A Day
party next July when I remember a lady who'd been to the
first one, but not to any since. Wonder if this had anything
to do with it?

When we met at the first party she was wearing a white
T-shirt with the word "GUESS" boldly emblazoned across
the front.

I couldn't resist. "36-C?"


Have a great weekend all........

Red Oak

Message: 35505 Posted: Sat Sep 11 06:46:37 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Sept 11

Your poem is excelent. I have never heard it before....are you the writter?
Mark M

Message: 35504 Posted: Sat Sep 11 06:37:28 2004 By: Goanna
Subject: Sept 11


Our thoughts are with all USA (America Fans) always...

Life gone in an instant
With blasts of hate from air
Caught within a moment
This deed done brings despair

Contemplate this evil
What good has this deed done
Left us filled with hatred
This battle never won

Torn with mass destruction
Deliberate hate designed
For only in one instant
Deep sorrow for mankind

Families filled with horror
Hearts are filled with tears
Within us saddest moment
What purpose brings us here

Let us join united
To say a silent prayer
For those who were the victims
Their voices we must hear

People joining hands now
Creating biggest chain
Bringing forth a miracle
Where evil brought such pain

Innocent are dead now
What power does this give
Lost within the horror
But yet we all must live

Fear cannot bring power
For deep inside hate looms
The power of the people
In silent prayer resumes

Hands that reached so bravely
To help those find a way
With hearts of grateful nation
We bow our heads and pray

For all those who are lost now
On this most dreaded day
We pray that God will give us
The strength to find a way.

Message: 35503 Posted: Sat Sep 11 05:34:14 2004 By: Nina
Subject: Reply to Shirley/Patricia

Hi Shirley! I think it depends on what part of the country you live in as to the airing of that DF special concert? Try using your computer's search or Google and type in Soundstage, Dan Fogelberg, PBS and see what comes up. It should give you a link to connect you with info. about the show, including air dates for your area's PBS channel and a set list. I can't remember ALL the songs he performed but I DO know that some got cut to fit the hour format.("The Reach", being one I specifically remember getting the axe!) One can only hope that soon PBS will put out the entire concert on CD as they sometimes do? If you're a big DF fan I'm sure you'll recognize all of the songs. Hope this helps!

Patricia...I apologize for not being clear in my post about DF's health. Luckily, our "crack chat folder team" jumped into action and got you the info. requested! Hope you like it here...all in all, we're a good bunch!

Message: 35502 Posted: Sat Sep 11 00:31:58 2004 By: jimbob
Subject: dvd and off topic

Hey guys! You lucky Aussies! Cant wait to see it; it will be released here soon I believe. Bones, a while back you asked about what Crowded House live cd I recommended. Apologies for not getting back sooner,but the truth is I dont have a live recording of them and am not too familiar with what there is. But I can tell you the new Finn brothers' album 'Everyone is Here' is terrific. Very Crowded House.

Message: 35501 Posted: Fri Sep 10 21:40:59 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: A Time To Remember

I was in "Oklamoma city" this summer, and was able to see the memorial there. Even tho this was a smaller scale act, it was still very painful and disturbing to see all of the destruction and pain that this one act of terrorism caused.
Mark M.

Message: 35500 Posted: Fri Sep 10 21:34:01 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: A Time To Remember

Bluey, Thank you for your concern and sympathy for us who had to endure the terrorism on 9/11/01. My school where I teach is just right across the river from NYC and it was so scary knowing what was happening just a few miles away. The Towers were visible from our windows. A parent of one of my students was in the WTC at that time. She did survive thanks to a very heroic police officer who shielded her in the building. Unfortunately, he lost his life saving hers. I pray every day hoping that any sort of terrorism will end and that the world will be a safe place for all in which to live.

Message: 35499 Posted: Fri Sep 10 21:15:29 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Private Show in CT/OT: Dan Fogelberg

I have been getting my old "America albums" upgraded to CD's myself for the last year or so. Just recieved "Alibi" in the mail today, and they do sound gooood on CD !
Welcome to chat, Mark M.

Message: 35498 Posted: Fri Sep 10 20:58:45 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: A Time To Remember

Thanks Bluey. My co worker whose dd was near Ground Zero still has nightmares. A cop shoved her out of the way and told her to run. When she went back to where she had been standing a few days later the lamp post she had been leaning on was melted away.

As for writing about DVD's I find that it is good to remember happy times during times of crisis and sorrow.

I myself can't wait to get the DVD, thatnks for the advance taste of it Margaret and Bluey!

Message: 35497 Posted: Fri Sep 10 20:23:35 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Private Show in CT/OT: Dan Fogelberg and tomorrow


Hi! Welcome to the chat folder! It was recently announced that Dan Fogelberg is fighting prostate cancer with some new innovative treatment. Hopefully, he will beat it!


Very nice sentiments amigo! Thank you. It's nice to know that far away from these shores, there are people like you that genuinely care and wish us well. We specially need that on tomorrow's anniversary, it's truly amazing that three years have already passed...Hopefully, I pray that terrorrism IN that scale will NEVER happen again ANYWHERE!


Message: 35496 Posted: Fri Sep 10 20:12:25 2004 By: Shirley
Subject: Re: Private Show in CT/OT: Dan Fogelberg

Dan Fogelberg has prostate cancer.

Message: 35495 Posted: Fri Sep 10 19:00:39 2004 By: patricia
Subject: Re: Private Show in CT/OT: Dan Fogelberg

This is my first time posting, so have patience with me! I have been reading the chat folder for many months and have learned alot about many of you. I wanted to ask what medical problems Dan Fogelberg is having? I haven't heard of anything. I saw a solo acoustic show he did here in Charleston several years ago. He was very good. After America, he has always been one of my favorite musicians. Especially his older material. Can't wait for the DVD! Just got my new copy of Hearts on C.D.-Better than I remembered!

Message: 35494 Posted: Fri Sep 10 17:19:14 2004 By: Spurs
Subject: DVD Update

Hello everyone,have been enjoying the new DVD very much and have watched it a couple of times already.Plenty of highlights and superb interview,sound quality first class as one has come to expect with America.Won't give to much away as many of you are hanging out to see it.As for the interview what modest and humble people they are.Hope this my lead to more DVDs inthe future,such as with an orhestra,acoustic set,or how about one with Dan Peek playing a few numbers.Recently Jethro Tull have a splendid DVD out called "Living with the Past" which included the class of 68' the original line up playing a few tunes.

Message: 35493 Posted: Fri Sep 10 16:44:57 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: A Time To Remember

I just realised that it is September 11 in Oz and here I am writing about DVDs.

Cheryl and I wish to extend our sympathies to anyone who has suffered personal loss or injury, or to relative or friend, arising from that horrendous event.

In Australia we will never forget your sorrow.


Message: 35492 Posted: Fri Sep 10 15:00:15 2004 By: Shirley
Subject: Dan Fogelberg

Could someone post the details of the special if they know, please? I'd like to set the vcr. Thanks

Message: 35491 Posted: Fri Sep 10 14:57:33 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Re: DVD update

Hi Margaret: Firstly, if you haven't got the postcard I mentioned, get onto Roadshow Entertainment. I have pre-ordered CDs and DVDs before but have never had a promotional article personally sent to me like this. Thanks Steve, I know you and all concerned with the band and chat folder will enjoy viewing this as well.

The DVD....Well firstly, I'm really sorry that everyone, apart from down-under, haven't had the chance to view it. Hope you get some news shortly.

About the concert. Cheryl and I went to the Friday night concert and of course the DVD was made from the Saturday venue. The first thing that stood out even before we got into the Opera House was the security..We had to show our tickets before they would even let us through the outer doors. Glenn A Baker (interviewer on DVD) walked in at the same time and was sitting a few rows behind us. Elliott Goblet, comedian/support act, was just so funny. What about when he sang "I've been through the desert with a horse with no name" then stop, looked at the audience and said something like, 'What do you call out if the bloody thing get loose and pisses off?' The last word about the night - HOT!!!

The DVD: Very professionally done, both the concert and the hour long interview. We have all heard and read the "America" story so many times but Gerry, Dewey and Glenn A Baker just made the storyline so interesting. I realise just how thick I must be after Gerry explained the hidden meaning behind "Silent Letter". As "H" is classified as a silent letter in the English language, he was virtually saying that the album "really" started with the word "H". Well worth the wait. Track 21 - "Sandman" - to Cheryl and I ,it's just the highlight. So powerful and electric. Even Glenn A pointed it out in his interview.

I believe that this DVD is, at this stage of their careers, their crowning achievement. Lets hope I'm saying this again in a couple of more years about another DVD. 34 years in business, hell they have only just started!

Thanks Margaret for asking me to comment.

Regards Bluey.

Message: 35490 Posted: Fri Sep 10 13:58:23 2004 By: Nina
Subject: Re: Private Show in CT/OT: Dan Fogelberg

Hi all! Am breathing a nice long "Ahhhhh" as the end of week 2 with evil 8th graders comes to an end! (Actually, the natives are not that restless this year! You can't see me, but I'm knocking on wood so as to NOT jinx the whole year ahead of me!) Regarding the private show in CT..."NO FAIR!!!!" Who would be cruel enough to do this to a fellow New England fan? Please, please, please let me come...whoever you are?! (Bones...get real! Teachers don't make the kind of money to book our guys for a show...unless...a huge inheritance came your way recently??!!)

Got up real early to catch that Dan Fogelberg concert on PBS this morning at 5 AM. If you're also a fan of Dan's music, and I know that many of you who read this are, then catch it if you can. Although he left out a lot of my personal favorites, it was definitely worth the watch. As with "America", a Dan Fogelberg sighting on TV is very rare indeed! Considering what the guy is going through recently with his health, the concert had me a bit weepy at times. I wanted to tape it but couldn't get the VCR working properly! Hope to catch it when it airs again sometime next week.

Message: 35489 Posted: Fri Sep 10 12:22:37 2004 By: TommieGirl
Subject: Re: Birthdays Anniveresaries and such

Right there with you Robyn! Seems like every time I think I'm finally going to make it online, some new crisis comes up! LOL Hope all's well.

Looks as though I've missed some birthdays - I hope everyone had a happy and many more to come.

And Happy Anniversary, of course, to Mr. and Mrs. Beckley!


Message: 35488 Posted: Fri Sep 10 10:04:11 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Birthdays Anniveresaries and such

To all those whose birthday I missed, I hope you had a lovely day and continue to celebrate! Happy Anniversary to Mr and Mrs B! May you have a hundred more!

I am diggin my way out of three weeks worth of crud both at work and at home, so I may or may not be able to get into the chat folder for a bit!

Take care!

Message: 35487 Posted: Fri Sep 10 08:59:31 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Gerry's Birthday - Listening Party-Van Go Gan

To celebrate Gerry's birthday, Sunday night's listening party will feature his great solo album, Van Go Gan. Hope you can join us, 10 PM EDT, 7 PM PDT.

Message: 35486 Posted: Fri Sep 10 08:39:02 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - Robinsonville

Click here to see the view from Gerry's hotel room in Robinsonville, MS.

Message: 35485 Posted: Fri Sep 10 08:01:03 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: B'days, history, Lyrics & Drain Plug

Hey Red, Love that song "Mama Told Me (Not To Come)". That tune was written by the one and only Randy Newman and covered by the great Three Dog Night. Keep em comin'.DanC.

Message: 35484 Posted: Fri Sep 10 06:47:25 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: DVD postcard

Thanks for sending the postcard, Bluey. I'll be sure to scan it in when I receive it so that everyone else can see it.

Message: 35483 Posted: Fri Sep 10 06:45:50 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Private show???

I'll be sending out personal invites in the mail within the next few weeks.

Message: 35482 Posted: Fri Sep 10 06:21:10 2004 By: Margaret
Subject: Re: DVD Update

We watched the DVD again tonight. It was so good. Gerry and Dewey should be very proud of the whole project.

The My Sweet Lord/Sister Golden Hair reference was a comparison Gerry made with the opening 12 string with the slide coming in afterwards. When I mentioned the court case, it was a tongue-in-cheek reference to George Harrison's long-running court case where he was sued for infringing the copyright on He's So Fine. I didn't want to open a can of worms here by drawing attention to the MSL/SGH introductions when we watched Concert For George. I am intrigued how appropriation is rife in PostModern Art but similarities in song structure can incur heavy financial penalties.

Glad to hear that Ainsley and Bluey also got the DVD. What are your thoughts on it Bluey?

Anita, when can we expect you?

Message: 35481 Posted: Fri Sep 10 04:26:47 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, history, Lyrics & Drain Plug

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 10, 2004

58 years ago - Three Dog Night vocalist Danny Hutton is born. (1946)

54 years ago - Joe Perry, guitarist for Aerosmith, is born. (1950)

49 years ago - Chuck Berry's "Maybellene" peaks at #5 on the pop chart. (1955)

48 years ago - Record stores are swamped with requests for Elvis Presley's "Love Me Tender." The song, which is the title track of his next movie, has not been released. (1956)

44 years ago - Dave Lowry, frontman for Cracker, is born. (1960)

40 years ago - Rod Stewart records his first single, "Good Morning, Little Schoolgirl." He will go on to sing with the Jeff Beck group before embarking on a solo career. (1964)

38 years ago - The Beatles album, "Revolver" hits #1 -- a position it would hold for 6 weeks. The multi-platinum album contained "Yellow Submarine." (1966)

38 years ago - The Rolling Stones appear on "The Ed Sullivan Show" in New York. (1966)

38 years ago - The Monkees' "The Last Train To Clarksville" is released. (1966)

38 years ago - Wilson Pickett's "Land of 1000 Dances" peaks at #6 on the chart while The Troggs' "With A Girl Like You" peaks at #29 on the chart. (1966)

38 years ago - Bush drummer Robin Goodridge is born. (1966)

30 years ago - The original New York Dolls split up. Two members later tour under the that same name. (1974)

30 years ago - James Taylor's "Handy Man" peaks at #4 on the chart. (1974)

30 years ago - The New York Dolls break up. (1974)

29 years ago - Kiss' double album, "Kiss Alive" is released. (1975)

29 years ago - Elton John's "Someone Saved My Life Tonight" is certified gold. (1975)

25 years ago - Patti Smith plays the biggest concert of her career in Florence, Italy to 85,000 people. She tells the crowd it will be her final show so that she can retire at age 32 to begin her life with husband Fred "Sonic" Smith. She will return to performing a decade later. (1979)

24 years ago - The Rolling Stones release "She's So Cold." (1980)

21 years ago - Jackson Browne's "Lawyers in Love" peaks at #13 on the singles chart while Peter Gabriel's "Solsbury Hill" peaks at #84. (1983)

21 years ago - AC/DC's "Flick Of The Switch" LP enters the chart. (1983)

16 years ago - Robert Palmer's "Simply Irresistible" peaks at #2 on the singles chart while Guns N' Roses' "Sweet Child O' Mine" hits #1 and Van Halen's "When It's Love" hits #5. (1988)

16 years ago - Eric Clapton begins a U.S. tour with a band that includes Dire Straits frontman Mark Knopfler on guitar. (1988)

14 years ago - Will Smith, who became known as The Fresh Prince as half of the rap group, DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, makes his TV debut in "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air." (1990)

9 years ago - Cyndi Lauper wins an Emmy for her guest appearance on "Mad About You." (1995)

8 years ago - Sheryl Crow's self-titled 2nd album is banned in Wal-Mart stores because of the song, "Love Is A Good Thing." The song mentions children killing each other with "a gun they bought at the Wal-Mart discount stores." (1996)

6 years ago - Some Hindu groups criticize Madonna's performance at the MTV Video Music Awards after the singer wears a see-through shirt and a Hindu facial marking while performing "Ray of Light." (1998)


Three Dog Night - Mama Told Me (Not To Come)

Want some whiskey in your water?
Sugar in your tea?
What's all these crazy questions they're askin' me?
This is the craziest party that could ever be
Don't turn on the lights 'cause I don't wanna see

Mama told me not to come
Mama told me not to come
"That ain't the way to have fun, no"

Open up the window, let some air into this room
I think I'm almost chokin' from the smell of stale perfume
And that cigarette you're smokin' 'bout scare me half to death
Open up the window, sucker, let me catch my breath

Mama told me not to come
Mama told me not to come
"That ain't the way to have fun, son"
"That ain't the way to have fun, son"

The radio is blastin', someone's knockin' at the door
I'm lookin' at my girlfriend - she's passed out on the floor
I seen so many things I ain't never seen before
Don't know what it is - I don't wanna see no more

Mama told me not to come
Mama told me not to come
She said, "That ain't the way to have fun, son"
"That ain't the way to have fun, no"

"That ain't the way to have fun, no"
"That ain't the way to have fun, son"
"That ain't the way to have fun, no"
"That ain't the way to have fun, son"

"That ain't the way to have fun, no"
"That ain't the way to have fun, son"
"That ain't the way to have fun, no"
"That ain't the way to have fun, son"


Out in Kansas, tornadoes often hit with sudden devastation,
and without warning. In one case, a house was completely
whisked away, leaving only the foundation and first floor.

A silver-haired farm lady was seen sitting dazed, in a
bathtub, the only remaining part of the house left above the
floor. The rescue squad rushed to her aid and found her
unhurt. She was just sitting there in the tub, talking to

"It was the most amazing thing . . . it was the most
amazing thing." she kept repeating dazedly.

"What was the most amazing thing, Ma'am?" asked one of
the rescuers.

"I was visiting my daughter here, taking a bath, and all I did
was pull the plug and dog-gone-it if the whole house didn't
suddenly drain away."


TGIF everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Red Oak

Message: 35480 Posted: Fri Sep 10 04:02:26 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Happy Anniversary

Happy 16th to a great couple- Gerry and Kathy Beckley!

Message: 35479 Posted: Thu Sep 09 22:38:41 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: DVD postcard

SteveL: Steve, picked up my DVD yesterday but as an added bonus I received a beautifully printed, glossy 215mm x 115 mm postcard from Roadshow Entertainment advertising the it's release. The "America In Concert" logo is also printed on the reverse side. Another "dust collector". Don't know if you have a copy but it's in the mail.

Also thank you all for your very kind words about my family photos.


Message: 35478 Posted: Thu Sep 09 19:56:59 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Private show???

On the site, a private show is listed for November 10 in Uncasville, CT, which is home of the Mohegan Sun Casino. So which of you high rollers out there booked that one, LOL!!!

Message: 35477 Posted: Thu Sep 09 16:50:29 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: Interview highlights

Thanks Ainsley for the sneak preview! Great news regarding "Last November we put down 6-8 songs... hopefully another project soon" But wonder if they're actually serious about a VFTHW coffee table book ever being published someday, never can tell about that? I'd love to replace my roommate's huge coffee table book on the Serengeti. Unfortunately, my TV broke down last night and without a computer I was forced to read anything I could get my hands on.


Message: 35476 Posted: Thu Sep 09 09:53:39 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: WANTED: DVD

I checked with Erin and she said that she doesn't have any information on the US release of the DVD but she's working on it.

On a more personal note, some of you may be aware that during the August break from touring, Erin moved back to her home town in Florida. I was concerned about her with regards to the hurricanes but she said that everything is cool. She dodged Frances but she's closely watching Ivan - a crazy hurricane season!

Message: 35475 Posted: Thu Sep 09 07:34:40 2004 By: Shirley
Subject: WANTED: DVD

Sorry, bad joke - but we're waiting. (Not very patiently)

Message: 35474 Posted: Thu Sep 09 07:14:21 2004 By: Shirley
Subject: WANTED: DVD

So, I missed it - when did you say the DVD was being released???!!!

Message: 35473 Posted: Thu Sep 09 06:28:29 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & RED Ketchup

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 9, 2004

63 years ago - Otis Redding, solo artist, is born. (1941)

59 years ago - Singer Dee Dee "Mashed Potato Time" Sharp is born. (1945)

58 years ago - Keyboardist Billy Preston and Iron Butterfly's Doug Ingle are born. (1946)

52 years ago - Dave Stewart, guitarist for the Eurythmics, is born. (1952)

49 years ago - The J.P. Seeburg Corporation introduces its Dual Music System Jukebox. It's the first ever equipped to handle a hundred singles and two song per side EPs. (1955)

48 years ago - Elvis Presley makes the first of three appearances on the Ed Sullivan Show. He belts out "Love Me Tender," "Hound Dog," "Don't Be Cruel" and "Ready Teddy." But what's most notable about this performance is that Elvis is shot just from the waist up, so that his gyrating hips don't offend the television audience. (1956)

37 years ago - Sam & Dave's soul classic, "Soul Man" is released. (1967)

33 years ago - John Lennon's Imagine LP is released. (1971)

32 years ago - The Eagles' "Witchy Woman" is released. (1972)

32 years ago - Yes' LP "Closer To The Edge" hits #3 on the album chart. (1972)

32 years ago - The Who's "Join Together" peaks at #17 on the singles chart. (1972)

31 years ago - Todd Rundgren keeps his promise and records a thousand voices in San Francisco's Golden Gate Park for the left track of his song, "Sons of 1984." He had put 5,000 fans in New York on tape for the right track. However, the open-air recording session ends in a rumble as police move in to arrest a suspect for alledgedly peddling cannabis. A melee erupts and 11 people are arrested. (1973)

26 years ago - The Rolling Stones' "Beast Of Burden" is released. (1978)

26 years ago - The Who's final album with Keith Moon, "Who Are You" enters the LP charts. (1978)

26 years ago - U2 opens for The Stranglers at the Top Hat Ballroom outside of Dublin. The Stranglers take up two dressing rooms, leaving U2 to dress behind their amps. (1978)

26 years ago - Foreigner's "Hot Blooded" peaks at #3 on the singles chart while Eddie Money's "Two Tickets To Paradise" peaks at #22. (1978)

23 years ago - Amnesty International's "The Secret Policeman's Other Ball" takes place. Sting plays his first solo set as does Phil Collins. (1981)

22 years ago - Al Green and Patti LaBelle make their Broadway debut in Vinnete Carroll's, "Your Arm's Too Short to Box with God." It opens at the Alvin Theatre in New York City. Both Green and LaBelle get rave reviews from both critics and the audiences and the intial performances of 30 were expanded to 80. (1982)

12 years ago - At MTV's 9th annual Video Music Awards, Van Halen's "Right Now" video wins the Best Video Award. They are presented the award by Mick Jagger. During the show Elton John sings "The One" and then later joins Guns N' Roses on "November Rain." (1992)

8 years ago - Tom Petty's wife of 22 years, Jane, files for divorce, citing, "irreconcilable differences." (1996)

8 years ago - Bluegrass legend Bill Monroe dies in Springfield, Tennessee at the age of 84. (1996)

6 years ago - An episode of "Judge Judy" airs in which Sex Pistol Johnny Rotten appears as the defendant in a case involving a drummer who sues Rotten for allegedly head-butting him in a contract dispute. (1998)


Foreigner - Hot Blooded

I'm hot blooded, check it and see, I got a fever of a hundred and three
Come on baby, do you do more than dance? I'm hot blooded, I'm hot blooded
You don't have to read my mind, to know what I have in mind
Honey you oughta know
Now you move so fine, let me lay it on the line
I wanna know what you're doin' after the show
Now it's up to you, we can make a secret rendezvous
Just me and you, I'll show you lovin' like you never knew
That's why - chorus
If it feels alright, maybe you can stay all night, shall I leave you my key?
But you've got to give me a sign, come on girl, some kind of sign
Tell me, are you hot mama, you sure look that way to me
Are you old enough, will you be ready when I call your bluff?
Is my timing right, did you save your love for me tonight?
Yeah I'm hot blooded, check it and see, feel the fever burning inside of me
Come on baby, do you do more than dance? I'm hot blooded, I'm hot blooded


A company decided to market a new ketchup. To make
an impression with the public, it launched a bold advertising
campaign. The ad had a man in a restaurant being served
his dinner.

A curvacious blond mini-skirted waitress was serving the
new ketchup. The punch line said:

"He's getting it downtown. Why not give it to him at



Red Oak

Message: 35472 Posted: Wed Sep 08 22:38:50 2004 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Thanks for the B'day Wishes ~Now only 1 more thing !

Hey Nancy!
Tx. I'm ok. Will prob have much more to say when I get to see the DVD and when ... some NEW music is out. I long for that actually.

Message: 35471 Posted: Wed Sep 08 20:50:22 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: WANTED :DVD

Just thought it would be the perfect present !! I wish I was "Santa"...I would give all of you one for an early "Christmas present". Except for the bad know who you are !!
Mark M

Message: 35470 Posted: Wed Sep 08 20:44:14 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Thanks for the B'day Wishes ~Now only 1 more thing !

Hi hoooo Everyone :) ~~~ I want my, I want my, I want my DVD, I want my, I want my, I want my DVD ~~ Sing it for me Dire Straits :)

Thanks a Bunch for all of the Birthday wishes, They Sure did Bring the Sunshine ;) to my Ooooh sooooo Rainy Day! :):) :)

Red ~~ Tooooo Much ~ You Made My Day! ~ WOW!!!! I do Believe it is safe to say that this is the only time my name will appear in a History event list! 2222 much!!!! :) ;)

Hi Gen ~~~ Sooooo Nice to hear from you! I Hope All is Going Well for You too! :) Take care, and Come back to Post more often Okay! :)

Nice to see your Pics Bluey ~~ You have a Very Beautiful Family! ~~ Precious Moment Pics ~Nice!!!!

Cheers Margaret & Ainsley ~~ Nice to hear about you getting your DVD, I gotta admit tho, I am Kinda BooooHooooing here ~~ Why, well I have been waiting soooo Patiently and sooooo Hoping that we would be able to order this here in the States by now.... What a Birthday Gift that would have been!!! Be sure and Enjoy hitting the Replay Button on it a Few times for Me Okay!!!! :)

Well gotta get back to live chat now, the Live Chant of the Night is DVD ~ DVD ~ DVD ~~~Can You Hear Us Now?????

Nitey Nite all, Warm Dreams! Nancy :)

My day began with Gerry's Kiss of Life.... in the Middle was Dan's song Missing You(Chelsea's song), and is ending with Dewey's Garden of Peace! ~~~WOW WOW WOW what a Triple Treat for sure! :) ;)

Message: 35469 Posted: Wed Sep 08 20:42:22 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: America on retro 70's

I was listening to the radio this morning, and they were giving away a copy of the cd, "Retro 70s". They siad it had music on it from "Groups like America, Eagles and Bread". It just caught my attention that "America" was the first group they mentioned. Funny how small things can seem cool !
Mark M

Message: 35468 Posted: Wed Sep 08 20:41:26 2004 By: nettie
Subject: WANTED :DVD

Hello i would love America's new DVD for my upcoming birthday that would certainly make my day!!!!! Please............

Message: 35467 Posted: Wed Sep 08 20:31:44 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Nancy!

Hey Nancy, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! I think a copy of the "new dvd" would be the perfect present, don't you??
BTW, did you recieve my last e mail?
Mark M

Message: 35466 Posted: Wed Sep 08 20:30:11 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Wanted DVD

Hey, when do we, your very loyal U.S. fans, get to see the DVD?

Message: 35465 Posted: Wed Sep 08 20:25:48 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Wanted DVD

Getting very jealous of those Aussies . . . please tell us the release date for the DVD!

Message: 35464 Posted: Wed Sep 08 20:24:11 2004 By: AmericanGirl
Subject: Wanted: DVD

I just can't wait for the new DVD to come out! Hurry up DVD and get released!!!

P.S. Happy Birthday, Nancy!!!!

Message: 35463 Posted: Wed Sep 08 19:52:50 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Nancy!

It's still the 8th so 'Happy Birthday' from across the way, Nancy!

Message: 35462 Posted: Wed Sep 08 18:44:26 2004 By: Ainsley
Subject: Interview highlights

....Last Nov we put down 6-8 songs...hopefully another project soon....we're right now talking about going in with a young producer and doing some new tracks.....VFTHW a coffee table book waiting to happen..!! ha ha!

Message: 35461 Posted: Wed Sep 08 18:28:41 2004 By: Cathy Rink
Subject: Happy Birthday Nancy!

Nancy, happy birthday to you. Enjoy your day.~~~Cathy

Message: 35460 Posted: Wed Sep 08 18:14:21 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Bluey, DVD, Photos, Birthdays

Bluey - those are great pictures! Thanks for sharing them. (I love the name Thomas Patrick. We have three boys, and our oldest son's 'middle' name is Thomas. Our youngest son's 'middle' name is Patrick!) I fully agree with you about how wonderful it is to be able to communicate with other America fans this way. I often think back to my teenage years and wondering if/when/where they were touring and how difficult is was for me to find out anything. Today is another good example of how fun this chat folder is - I come home from work, sign in as I start making dinner, and see photos of Bluey and family - and read about the new DVD!!

Margaret and Ainsley - it is pretty neat, and fitting, that you get to be among the first to see the DVD! It certainly would be extra special because you were at the shows in Australia. Thanks for giving the rest of us a "sneak preview".

Hi Johnny - nice of you to say you liked the photos from the Milwaukee show. Linda gets 100% full credit for the photos. She did a great job, didn't she? I had only three from that evening - two of the guys on stage which turned out blurry, and one of the four of us fans that hung out together that is almost identical to the one Linda posted - so they weren't really worth passing along to the rest of you.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY wishes to Nancy H. - and Bones!


Message: 35459 Posted: Wed Sep 08 17:17:54 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: DVD Update

Hey Margaret,

You might just be one of the first one's to pick up the DVD, it sounds great! I haven't seen the Concert for George in months, so I'm too familiar with it at the moment... but you mentioned something about an influence or relationship between My Sweet Lord and Sister Golden Hair? Can you offer any tidbits of info or any details or would that be giving too much away? Actually, I think I can probably figure it out or just wait to see it. Or maybe I'll rent the Concert for George again. Yikes! I hope there isn't an ensuing court case.


Message: 35458 Posted: Wed Sep 08 16:59:17 2004 By: Ainsley
Subject: Sydney DVD

What can you say! They always amaze. Brought back memories of the Melbourne Concert. So nice to have an Aussie feel! Love the interview.

Message: 35457 Posted: Wed Sep 08 12:55:43 2004 By: Genevieve
Subject: Re: Birthdays

Hi eveyone!

And oh yeah! Happy B-Day to ya, très chère Nancy !
Hope you are fine and a little less busy than the last time i got to talk to you.
Hope all my folder friends are doing good as well as our heroes !?!


Message: 35456 Posted: Wed Sep 08 09:25:10 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: Birthdays

Hey, NancyH, it's your birthday today! Happy, happy, happy birthday!!
Hope you get to come to the Birchmere!

Message: 35455 Posted: Wed Sep 08 07:49:15 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Bluey

I need to mention that along with the photos that Bluey sent me, he also sent a California Dreaming LP and a Russ Ballard LP. He said they were just laying around collecting dust so he wanted to send them to someone who would appreciate them. Thanks Bluey! As an added bonus, he sent me some of his old NSW police patches and some newspaper articles and advertisements from the previous America tour down under.

Message: 35454 Posted: Wed Sep 08 07:22:04 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Bluey


Thanks for sharing your pictures via Steve. What a great looking family you have! Great to put a face to the name. Best regards,


Message: 35453 Posted: Wed Sep 08 07:21:40 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Re: DVD Update

Hi Margaret:

Thanks for the great review of the DVD! It sure makes me wish they would release it shortly over here. (Do you have a guest room? I might have to pay you a visit to watch it if it doesn't come out here soon, LOL!) Nice to hear that they included the Beatles' I Need You in the setlist. And the interview sounds fascinating.

Message: 35452 Posted: Wed Sep 08 07:01:12 2004 By: Margaret
Subject: DVD Update

In short, it was absolutely fabulous!

The rest is going to take a long time to read, so I apologise in advance.

I went to the city on Monday to try to determine the best place to buy the DVD. I was reluctant to pre-order one in case the stocks were not available on the release date. Some places said to try on Sept 9, while others said that they didn’t know when they would have it. One guy told me they would probably put it on the shelves in the evening before the release date.

My big America adventures are sometimes accompanied with physical danger (eg falling down the stairs in a shop prior to the Melbourne show). This trip into the city resulted in something going snap in my back when I reached sideways. This left me wondering how I was going to get home. I’m on the mend now.

Ross unsuccessfully tried to get the DVD at lunchtime today and was told at one shop that three people had already ordered it, so that is a good sign. Before leaving the city today, Ross went back and as I had been told, the DVDs had been put out on the shelves in preparation for release tomorrow. So we hit the jackpot.

We’ve only just finished watching the DVD and it is truly superb. All 25 songs that were played are on the DVD including The Beatles I Need You. It was so true to the experience we had in our looking – up – their – nostrils seats. When I bought the tickets the salesperson tried to dissuade me from getting seats close to the front, but we both feel there is nothing quite like that experience.

On the previous night we were a little further back and really felt all the enthusiasm of the whole room, whereas on the Saturday night, we were so focused on the guys it was as if the concert was just for us. We feel that the DVD successfully captures both of these perspectives. It was wonderful to see and hear the reception the audience gave the guys. It was very important to the guys to be in that venue and we feel this will be a special record for them as well as for the fans.

There were great little personal memories for us too. The first pick Gerry threw we missed. It was on the ground behind us and someone picked it up after the show. We got the second one. Thanks Gerry for yet another great reminder of a wonderful evening.

Ross said that in the distance he could see the back of my head bopping along to the music. (That reminds me of how I picked Jimbob and Goanna at other shows!) One of our sons came into the room at that stage and said that it was no wonder that I had a back problem!

The quality of the sound was excellent. There were a couple of Michael’s short solos where he wasn’t filmed but generally the vision was just right. They even got the “Horse dip” which sometimes has not happened in the past. The changing light presents some problems at concerts. At the start there were a lot of shadows on the guys faces but once we got into the DVD, I didn’t really notice this as a problem.

I remember at the time how it was as if Dewey didn’t want the experience to end. The DVD captured that beautifully as it also captured him blowing kisses to his family. As a veteran of many shows, this was a very touching one and the DVD reinforces this.

Besides the concert, there was a discography, a picture gallery of about a dozen photos and an interview.

The interviewer was Rock Historian and former Rock Brain of the Universe, Glenn A Baker, who was sitting behind us on the Friday night. (He used to own a record shop in Sydney called Time Warp where it was possible to get hard – to – find music. That’s where Ross bought 4 Japanese import CDs, Homecoming, Hat Trick, Holiday and Hearts back in ’91 for the exorbitant price of $A45 each – do the currency conversion.)

The interview went for almost an hour and they all relaxed into a wonderful and informative conversation. I won’t give everything away but I’ll mention a couple of things. In relation to the H titles, Dewey said that Gerry suggested Humbug for Holiday Harmony! Earlier in the year we had seen on TV Concert for George at Royal Albert Hall. At the time the relationship between My Sweet Lord and Sister Golden Hair was apparent. I hadn’t thought about it before, but in this interview Gerry confirmed the influence. I hope there is no ensuing court case!

The interview was excellent and covered the whole America spectrum. It was insightful, intelligent, respectful and demonstrated the integrity and good natures of Dewey and Gerry.

Those two nights in Sydney in January were magical. It was really wonderful to be a part of something that was so special to the guys. Thanks to Paul Dainty for his wisdom to bring the guys back to Australia and for booking them at The Opera House. Thanks so much for such fabulous memories and to everyone who worked so hard to make a permanent record of the show for us, the rest of the audience and for everyone else around the world, who will eventually get to see the DVD. I hope that you don’t have to wait too long!

Message: 35451 Posted: Wed Sep 08 06:39:43 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Bluey

Bluey ~ It was very nice to see the photos of you and your family members.

Same to Karen and Linda in the recent concert photos.

Message: 35450 Posted: Wed Sep 08 06:30:40 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: Bluey

To Kevin Sutton: I got the biggest laugh out of seeing "your" picture on the profiles today! I would think that the ladies of this site will be sending a barrage of emails to you very soon! Nicely done! Its good to see that the beautiful people of the world aren't afraid to check in every now and then...

Message: 35449 Posted: Wed Sep 08 06:29:55 2004 By: red oak
Subject: Happy B'days, History & C Cells

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 8, 2004

59 years ago - Ron Pigpen McKernan, keyboardist for the Grateful Dead, is born. (1945)

47 years ago - Hastings, Pa Hottie and major America fan, Nancy Holtz, is born. (1957)

46 years ago - Philly teen heartthrob Paul Anka leaves for a month long tour of the Orient. (1958)

46 years ago - According to Billboard, Dick Clark has inked an album deal with ABC-Paramount Records. His first album will be of intrumental versions of contemporary hits by Bandstanders. The LP would be called "Dance with Dick Clark." (1958)

42 years ago - The novelty song "Monster Mash" by Bobby "Boris" Pickett enters the Hot 100 at #85. It's a tounge in cheek take-off on the late night monster movies. He recorded it with sound effects: the creaky door opening is a nail being pulled from a piece of wood, the boiling cauldron is Pickett blowing bubbles into a cup of water with a straw and the chains are him moving chains up and down. He also did all the voices. The song will make it to Number One for two weeks on October 20. (1962)

33 years ago - Elvis Presley receives the Bing Crosby award. It was first presented to Crosby by the Naitonal Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences and is bestowed to members of the recording industry who "during their lifetimes, have made creative contributions of outstanding artistic or scientific significance to the field of phonograph records." Presley becomes only the sixth artist so honored, preceded by Crosby, Frank Sinatra, Duke Ellington, Ella Fitzgerald, and Irving Berlin. (1971)

32 years ago - Neil Young and actress Carrie Snodgrass are the proud parents of son Zeke who was born at Young's ranch near San Francisco. (1972)

28 years ago - Rock and election year politics have a strange mix when Steven Ford, the president's son, invited Peter Frampton and his girlfriend Penny McCall and manager Dee Hall to the White House. The trio get the grand tour and the day concludes with a visit to the First Family's living quarters, mostly spent watching television with the president. (1976)

28 years ago - Disco band Wild Cherry's self-titled album, which includes their Number One single, "Play that Funky Music," goes gold. (1976)

28 years ago - The debut album by Vancouver band rock band Heart, "Dreamboat Annie" goes gold. The album contains "Magic Man" (a #9 hit) and "Crazy on You." (1976)

27 years ago - Guitarist Jimmy McCulloch quits Paul McCartney & Wings to join a reformed lineup for the Small Faces. (1977)

22 years ago - Peter Gabriel's "Security" LP is released. (1982)

16 years ago - Elton John sells some of his costumes and concert memorabilia at an auction in London for $6.2 million. (1988)


The Beatles - Birthday

You say it's your birthday
It's my birthday too--yeah
They say it's your birthday
We're gonna have a good time
I'm glad it's your birthday
Happy birthday to you.

Yes we're going to a party party
Yes we're going to a party party
Yes we're going to a party party.

I would like you to dance--Birthday
Take a cha-cha-cha-chance-Birthday
I would like you to dance--Birthday

You say it's your birthday
Well it's my birthday too--yeah
You say it's your birthday
We're gonna have a good time
I'm glad it's your birthday
Happy birthday to you.

May your B'day be filled with happiness and thanks for being the great person that you are. Eat some cake for me and have a super day.


When we lived there, my wife and I used to walk the beach a lot. One summer we noticed a girl who was at the beach pretty much every day. She wasn't unusual, nor was the travel bag she carried, except for one thing. She would approach people who were sitting on the beach, glance around furtively, then speak to them. Generally the people would respond negatively and she would wander off, but occasionally someone would nod and there would be a quick exchange of money for something she carried in her bag. My wife and I assumed she was selling drugs and debated calling the cops, but we didn't know for sure so we just continued to watch her.

After a couple of weeks my wife said, "Honey, have you ever noticed that she only goes up to people with boom boxes and other electronic devices?"

I hadn't, and I said so.

Then she said, "Tomorrow I want you to get a towel and our big radio and go lay out on the beach. Then we can find out what she's really doing."

Well, the plan went off without a hitch and my wife was almost hopping up and down with anticipation when she saw the girl talk to me and then leave. I walked up the beach and met her at the road.

"Well? Is she selling drugs?" she asked, excitement pouring out with her voice.

"No, she's not." I said, enjoying this probably more than I should have.

"Well? What is it, then? What does she do?" my wife fairly shrieked.

I smirked and said, "She sells 'C' cells by the sea shore."


Happy Hump Day!!!!!!!!!!!!

Red Oak

Message: 35448 Posted: Wed Sep 08 03:29:08 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: "America"

Thanks SteveL for allowing me to be part of this amazing America family. I suppose for the younger generation,computers are just a way of life but for old folk, like me, to be a fan of this wonderful group for some 32 years and having virtually no means of communication, this site is very rewarding because of the interactive conversations between fellow fans, even if we don't happen to think about putting "OT" before we want to say something!

Thank You, one and all.


Message: 35447 Posted: Wed Sep 08 01:41:54 2004 By: Margaret
Subject: Sydney DVD

Ross just came home with it! I'll write a message after we have watched it.

Message: 35446 Posted: Tue Sep 07 20:36:12 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Bluey

Click here to go to the Chat Folder Faces web page on the America Fans web site. The newest "faces" are that of Bluey, his wife, his son, and his grandson! What a good looking family!

Message: 35445 Posted: Tue Sep 07 18:05:20 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: One early ...birthday wish(es)!

Thanks Nina & Nancy & NancyM for the Birthday wishes. Funny, I don't feel any older. Thanks again.

Message: 35444 Posted: Tue Sep 07 15:54:52 2004 By: Nina
Subject: One early ...birthday wish(es)!

Bones! I'm sorry I missed your birthday; Monday...was it? I know you'll understand when I say "school is back in session" and I've entered a sort of "twilight zone"! Please accept my late wishes for a happy birthday,and wonderful year ahead. I hope to see you at a concert or two in 2005...we can share war stories about the classroom!

And, of course, best wishes to you, Gerry, on your upcoming birthday!
Hope you'll be surrounded by lots of love on your special day!

..."On the day that you were born, the angels got together and decided to create a dream come true..."

Message: 35443 Posted: Tue Sep 07 09:39:54 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Rainbow Song.

Kevin and Bluey, I second that! "Rainbow Song" is not only one of Dewey's finest compositions, but it also features standout harmony work from Dewey, Dan and Gerry, their voices rising and soaring seamlessly. It should have been a hit!


Glad you will be getting the Musikladen DVD, you will not be disappointed. It is amazing and a rare treat to see the trio perform together in its own time.


Message: 35442 Posted: Tue Sep 07 07:49:32 2004 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: America Poster For Sale

ANYONE WANT TO BUY THIS COOL POSTER? As much as this hurts, due to space limitations in my small NYC apartment, I am selling a rare Warner Brothers AMERICA poster. I just have to clear out my apartment - we're renovating and I'm becoming a "minimalist"! I bought it years ago at a "rock collectibles" store for $150. It measures 21 x27 inches and has the Warner Brothers Records logo in the lower right corner. I would grade it "mint minus" because there is a slight small crinkle in the lower left corner (it would be obscured by framing the poster). The picture is obviously from the 70's. The poster has been kept flat since I bought it - I have never framed it. If anyone is interested in purchasing it, please e-mail me. I'll throw in an autographed (Gerry & Dewey) color "Human Nature" poster to the lucky purchaser. I WILL CONSIDER ALL OFFERS. DO NOT ASSUME THAT YOUR OFFER WOULD BE TOO LOW. I just want to sell it to a fan who will really appreciate it. Thanks!

Message: 35441 Posted: Tue Sep 07 06:33:37 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Lawn Care

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 7, 2004

68 years ago - Rock & Roll legend Buddy Holly is born in Lubbock, Texas. (1936)

53 years ago - Chrissie Hynde, guitarist and vocalist for the Pretenders, is born. (1951)

45 years ago - Dick Clark's Michigan State Fair stage show, winding up a four day stand, attracts 15,000 spectators-it's the most in the fairs 110-year history. Appearing on stage includes Frankie Avalon and Annette Funicello, La Vern Baker, Freddy Canon, Duane Eddy, the Coasters, Lou Rawls and Bobby Rydell. (1959)

41 years ago - The Beatles' "She Loves You" hits #1 in England. (1963)

36 years ago - The Doors' "Waiting For The Sun" LP hits #1. (1968)

36 years ago - Iron Butterfly's "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" LP enters the charts as does Canned Heat's "Boogie With Canned Heat." (1968)

32 years ago - Curtis Mayfield's "Super Fly" goes gold and becomes the country's Number One album. The soundtrack LP also includes "Freddies Dead," a #4 in October. (1972)

31 years ago - Elton John being introduced at the Hollywood Bowl by the show's emcee, porn star Linda Lovelace, "Here he is, the biggest, largest, most gigantic and fantastic man, the costar of my next movie....Elton John." (1973)

31 years ago - The president of the slumping MGM Records since 1969, Mike Curb, resigns. The 28 year old made his reputation as a purveyor of middle-of-the-road music. He once got rid of eighteen acts from his label because the were allegedly "drug oriented." Curb had other things on his mind like politics and became Lieutenant governor of California. (1973)

30 years ago - Elton John gets a gold record for "Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me." (1974)

29 years ago - The Guess Who play their final concert with a gig in Montreal. (1975)

28 years ago - Judge Richard Owen of the New York State Supreme Court rules that George Harrison "subconsciously plagiarized" "He's So Fine," the Chiffon's 1963 hit. Harrison's 1970 hit "My Sweet Lord" is the reason for the problem. Harrison is ordered to pay $587,000 to ABKCO Music, a company owned, ironically, by Harrison's former business manager (when he was one of the Beatles), Allen Klein. (1976)

26 years ago - Ex-Sex Pistol bassist Sid Vicious performs at Max's Kansas City, New York City punk club. (1978)

26 years ago - The Who's drummer, Keith Moon dies in London after overdosing on Hemenephirin, a prescription drug which was supposed to have helped him with alcohol. His untimely death does not mean the end of the Who. He is replaced by ex-Faces drummer Kenney Jones. Keith Moon was 31. (1978)

25 years ago - Gary Numan releases his LP "The Pleasure Principle," which features the track, "Cars." (1979)

19 years ago - David Bowie and Mick Jagger's version of "Dancing In The Streets" hits #1 on the U.K. pop chart. (1985)

19 years ago - Tom Petty and the Heartbreaker's "Rebels" peaks at #74 on the pop singles chart. (1985)

18 years ago - Michael Nesmith joins the other three Monkees on stage for the first time since the band disbanded. (1986)

17 years ago - Despite threats from former member Roger Waters to sue promoters if the show goes on, Pink Floyd kicks off their "A Momentary Lapse Of Reason" tour in Ottawa, Canada. (1987)

8 years ago - Rapper Tupac Shakur and Marion "Suge" Knight are shot while riding in Knight's Mercedes in Las Vegas following a Mike Tyson fight. Shakur would die 6 days later. (1996)


Monkees - Daydream Believer

Oh, I could hide 'neath the wings
Of the bluebird as she sings.
The six o'clock alarm would never ring.
But it rings and I rise,
Wipe the sleep out of my eyes.
My shavin' razor's cold and it stings.

Cheer up, Sleepy Jean.
Oh, what can it mean.
To a daydream believer
And a homecoming queen.

You once thought of me
As a white knight on a steed.
Now you know how happy I can be.
Oh, and our good times start and end
Without dollar one to spend.
But how much, baby, do we really need.

Cheer up, Sleepy Jean.
Oh, what can it mean.
To a daydream believer
And a homecoming queen.
Cheer up, Sleepy Jean.
Oh, what can it mean.
To a daydream believer
And a homecoming queen.

[Instrumental interlude]

Cheer up, Sleepy Jean.
Oh, what can it mean.
To a daydream believer
And a homecoming queen.
[Repeat and fade]


A Nurse was on duty in the Emergency Room, when a young
woman with purple hair styled into a punk rocker Mohawk,
sporting a variety of tattoos, and wearing strange clothing,

It was quickly determined that the patient had acute
appendicitis, so she was scheduled for immediate surgery.

When she was completely disrobed on the operating table,
the staff noticed that her pubic hair had been dyed green, and
above it there was a tattoo that read, "Keep off the grass."

Once the surgery was completed, the surgeon wrote a short
note on the patient's dressing, which said, "Sorry, had to mow
the lawn."


Over & Out

Red Oak

Message: 35440 Posted: Tue Sep 07 06:29:52 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: H&O (SteveO)

Steve ~ Wish I could be there for the show. I know you'll have a great time. I'm really looking forward to H&O's new CD next month. I'm sure H&O will play a number of songs from it. Looking forward to hearing your review also.

Message: 35439 Posted: Tue Sep 07 06:18:23 2004 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Stall Tactics

The session drummer was Alan White, George Martin brought him in because of the "Pete Best" experience (He didn't think Pete was a good enough drummer to record, so he brought in a session drummer) I think Ringo plays on the album version, & Alan on the single, while Ringo was handed a tamborine.
There is a version w/Pete Best on drums on The Beatles Anthology 1

Message: 35438 Posted: Tue Sep 07 04:04:18 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Beatle Question

"Beatles anthology vol. 1"
"Cry for a shadow" is a rare instumental preformance by "The Beatles". The composer credit, "Harrison-Lennon", was the only such occurrence on disc.
Hope that helped.
Mark M

Message: 35437 Posted: Tue Sep 07 03:57:28 2004 By: Dan
Subject: H&OOT

Nancy, unfortunately, for my wife, the Rock & Soul Revue show in Peoria was cancelled some time back. No other shows in the near future for me either. Also, the Sideshow was one of my alltime fave 70s soul songs. It's on the box set "Can You Dig It" for anyone out there that really wants a huge selection of 70s soul music.DanC.

Message: 35436 Posted: Tue Sep 07 03:26:44 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Beatle Question

Steve O/Jimnak: Ordered the Musikladen DVD from Amazon (couldn't get it here) $US17-98 plus shipping. Thanks for info.

Question: Today I was playing "The Beatles - The Early Tapes With Tony Sheridan And The Beat Brothers" I haven't got all of The Beatles albums so I was wondering if "Cry For A Shadow" is the only instrumental or song co-written by George Harrison and John Lennon during The Beatles era? The track is credited as a Beatles release, no mention of Sheridan. Originally they were going to call it "Beatle Bop" but finally decided on "Cry For A Shadow".

"I'll Be Around" was a huge Oz hit a some years ago for Doug Parkinson In Focus. I remember reading where New York Times called Hall and Oates "pop music's number one singing duo".


Message: 35435 Posted: Mon Sep 06 21:00:28 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: More Green monkey

If "Joe Walsh" played that great sounding guitar on "Green monkey", I was wondering if any of the guys (Dewey, Gerry or Dan)played on any "Joe Walsh albums" ? Does anyone know of any?
Mark M

Message: 35434 Posted: Mon Sep 06 20:52:35 2004 By: KevinS.
Subject: Rainbow Song.

One of Dewey's classics, in my opinion.

They don't get much better than that.


Message: 35433 Posted: Mon Sep 06 20:35:23 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: B'days, History, Lyrics & Stall Tactics

42 years ago - John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr begin recording together for the first time at EMI's St. John Studio. They record 6 songs including "Love Me Do" and "P.S., I Love You". George Martin had the boys redo "Love Me Do" 16 times. (1962)

Actually, I believe a session dummer was brought in by George Martin for Love Me Do. Ringo ended up playing the tamborine on it.

Message: 35432 Posted: Mon Sep 06 20:24:14 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Rainbow Song

I hate to give a descenting opinion, but Rainbow Song was never really one of my favorites. I was suprised to learn that it was the second single off the Hat Trick album, but not surprised that it became America's first single not to chart. I think Windwave, She's Gonna Let You Down, or Hat Trick would have been better choices and would have had a better chance at charting, imho.

Message: 35431 Posted: Mon Sep 06 19:33:23 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: H&O

On Thursday night I am going to Green Bay to see the 2004 Rock & soul Revue with Hall & Oates/Michael McDonald and the Average White Band. I got my tickets months ago,and I'm excited to see it. Unfortunatly,I'm a HUGE Indianapolis Colts fan,and they just happen to kick the NFL season off Thursday Night. First Colts game I'll miss in years,but thats why we have VCR's.
Regarding the single of "I'll be Around"--look for the new Hall & Oates CD on October 26th called "Our Kind of Soul." The guys do 18 songs--15 remakes of old-school Philly Soul and 3 new songs. I had the pleasant opportunity to interview a guitarist by the name of Bobby Eli last week,and he has played on a number of songs on the new disc. While the name Eli may not ring a bell,he wrote the hit songs "Sideshow"(Blue Magic)and "Love won't let me wait"(Major Harris) and was one of the main members of the Philly Instrumental act MFSB--remember the #1 single TSOP? And for those of you that do recieve my "Music News" column,look for that interview to come up very soon. and Johnny,I'll let you know how that show turned out!

Message: 35430 Posted: Mon Sep 06 19:27:12 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: H&O

I've been catching up of some personal emails and I see that SteveO mentioned Laura Branigan's passing in his music news email that he sends to a number of us here.

Regarding H&O as Nancy mentioned in her latest post, I didn't realize that the duo has a cover of the Spinner's song currently out as a single. Very cool to hear that. I have yet to hear it on the local radio.

I do know that H&O is releasing a new CD in the next several months that consists of about three new compositions along with the remainder being cover songs of some really great soul hit singles. I really look forward to its release.

Message: 35429 Posted: Mon Sep 06 17:38:20 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Just some Replies ! & B'day Wishes!

Hi there Everyone! :) ~~ I Hope you all enjoyed your weekend & Relaxed some on this Labor Day! ~ Geeze the weekend sure did fly by fast!:)

Yeppers NancyM ~~I do Believe today is Bonesy's B'day! ~Hey there Bones ~~ I Just have to let my fingers sing dadadadadaaadaa ~~They say it's Your Birthday, I Hope you had a GREAT Time...I Hope Your Day was filled with all that brings a Smile Your Way! :)

Thanks Linda & Karen ~~ I enjoyed your review Karen! ~~Your Pics Linda, Brought Big Smiles to My Day! I too really enjoyed the Happy Smiles on Gerry & Dewey's faces as they performed. They all Looked sooo Refreshed & Relaxed. This had to Add to the Magic of the Night for sure! Looks as tho Gerry was having a "Schroeder Moment" in pic #17, and I really enjoyed seeing the pic of you fans at the show. I have said it before, this Adds to the Magic of Seeing them as well, it is always Nice Getting to meet with Friends that Share this Love for this Great Group! :) Thanks a Bunch for Sharing this with Us!:)~~Hmmmm Who brought the "Your Move" Album to have signed? ~~I just Love the Cover to it! :)

A Big Thumbs Up to Ike G! Thanks Steve for posting the link to Ike's AMERICA photo album. Such great Pics! I really like the Magic Moments You captured Ike! Doing these Pics in Black & White really brought a Unique touch to them! ~~ Soooo Cool that you got to travel around to the different shows, I Hope You will continue adding more pics to your album! :)

Your Welcome Robyn! Take Care! :)

Hi Hooo Reddddd :) ~~Your history has some tie ins with things I saw & heard this weekend! ~~ Yesterday morning I turned on the CBS Sunday morning news show, and the shows host(his name just won't come to me right now) said let's take a look at a special setting in Mass. that inspired the famous writer Walden to write a book of poems... they showed this untouched setting that was soooo Serene & Untouched, as they read bits of his writings... he mentioned another photographer that read Walden's writings and had to go and take his own photo's of this setting... He said with each picture he took he thought it was the perfect one, but then he would capture another perfect pic.. he said Funny the very last pic was the ONE Pic that he was Looking to take, and it turned out to be Right there in Front of HIM... This was one of Waldens favorite sayings, You Never have to Look too far for the things you want, they always seem to be Right In Front of You! :) ~~Then they mentioned Don Henley and how when he read Walden's works and he visited this place that he too got involved with Preserving this Untouched Setting! ~~ He talked about how things were said about him for wanting to speak out about this cause! At one point he was looking through Walden's actual handwritten pages that have been sealed, and said that it is alot like the way he writes lyrics tohis songs... he will write his thoughts on scrap papers and then put them all together... It was pretty neat getting to see and hear this! :) ~~ It sure was a Beautiful day here in PA yesterday... It would have been nice to get to see LRB at Heinz Field, in Pittsburgh, I bet they had the place rockin! :)~~Boy there sure were alot of Neat songs in the Top 15 Songs in Chicago for this day!

Hi there CJ ~~ Thanks for posting about the Cleveland show! By the looks of Gerry's VFTHW pic it was a wall to wall Blue Sky day there too. I couldn't help but think back to the one pic that Rich posted on his site of the Sunset at the show in Cincinnati, back in June. Was this an outside show there in Cleveland? ~~ Did you get to hear the Lonnnnnng Playlist, or the Short?? Sooo Cute that you took your 3 1/2 year old daughter to her first concert! :)

Hmmm ~~All the talk about "Rainbow Song" had me a Hankerin to Hit the Replay button on it, and that I have been doing while posting this... :):):) Iiiiiiii fell asleep on a Rainbow, hiding from the wake of a tide, Iiii fell asleep on a rainbow, hoping for the rest of the ride.... Blowing Leaves, broken dreams, seventeeen, dancing queeeeen, dancing queen, Iiiiiiii fell asleep on a rainbow hiding from the wake of a tide, Iiiii fell asleep on a rainbow, Hoping for the rest of the ride... Sing it for us Dewey Gerry & Dan :) Ohhhhh How I Love the Simple Pleasure Magic found in this song. ~~ Yeppers Steve O ~~ I really loved getting to hear this song as well as WindWave, MoonSong and Green Monkey on the Musikladen show!:) Hmmmm I've been listening to the Rainbow Song Plus version that was a Japenese release, soooo nice Gerry's "Submarine Ladies" being put together with Rainbow Song for this release! ~~I could Easily Get Lost For Hours Listening to these 2 songs!!!! :)

Well that's about all for now I think ~ Back to work and school tomorrow! ~Our Oldest son headed back to NY to get ready to start his 2nd full year up there, he called to let us know he got there earlier this evening, and he said that all the Sailboats were out on Lake Geneva, he said it was an Awesome sight... Tooo Much, it was just a year ago today that we went up to get him moved in for the first time, and I got to see all of the Sailboats... Wow this year sure flew by fast! :) Our 2nd oldest son headed back out to college this evening too, seems sooo hard to watch them walk out the door, it helps tho, to know that they will be back soon... and are just a cell phone call away, or a click on the little yellow AOL Instant Messenger guy away! :)

Hey there DanC ~~Just a Wonderin here how the Hall & Oates, Michael McDonald & Atlantic Rythmn Section show went???? I'd love to hear what you thought about it, by chance did Hall & Oates sing their version of the Spinner's song "I'll Be Around" for you and your Mrs? I have been hearing this on the radio here... they do a pretty upbeat job on it. :)

~~Mr Mailman still hasn't brought my "Dirty Dancing" DVD my way yet.. I hope it gets here soon.... Also, I would Love to Hear when we can Order the Sydney Live DVD here in the states.... Soon I Hope!

Take care all, Nitey Nite, See ya, Nancy :) ;)

~~~ smell the perfume of a silent dream, sail the ocean, read a story to me... Speak to meeeee ~~I have always loved how this song rocks yet has the soft slow harmonizing part in, and how well it works together... Nice Huh!!!!! Thanks for that Gerry, Dewey & Dan :) :) :)

Message: 35428 Posted: Mon Sep 06 16:37:32 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Former Pres. Clinton (& Some)

Well, Vic and All, the former president is recovering well according to news reports. That's good.

Speaking of the former president, it has we thinking about a friendly wager over the upcoming presidential election. Mo (or anyone else), would you care to wager an America memorabilia item over who will win the election? I'll put up my America poster, the one like Bruce has, for something you have. Loser pays the postage as well. Whadda ya say? I'm, of course, betting on GW to win.

I'm a bit surprised that no one mentioned Laura Branigan's recent passing especially since she was close in age to many of us here.

Regarding "Rainbow Song", I can recall exactly where I was (in my car in the parking lot of a local grocery store) the one and only time I've ever heard it played on the radio those many years ago.

Message: 35427 Posted: Mon Sep 06 15:45:24 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Rainbow Song replies

Thanks everyone for your replies. Jimnak and Steve O, thanks boys I'll order that DVD. The first couple of concerts I went to, Dewey sang "Old Man Took" Actually at one concert, they sang that song straight after the intro.

MarkM: Mate you were very helpful - honest. I was just about to ask about "Green Monkey" but you beat me to the punch. Now just sit down, have a coffee and relax!

Sergio: How can you not make a movie about a bloke who boasted to Life magazine's Shana Alexander in 1960 that his immediate goal was "to establish myself as a legend by the time I'm 25 years old"
He suffered from rheumatic fever as a child and he knew he had a serious heart condition so he didn't want to muck around backing up that statement. Well he was true to his word. He was reported as saying 'I hope to surpass Frank (Sinatra) in everything's he's done' Now that's takes guts. Thanks mate.


Message: 35426 Posted: Mon Sep 06 12:02:20 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Happy Birthday

Hey Bones, I hear it's your birthday. Hope you have a happy one!

Message: 35425 Posted: Mon Sep 06 10:58:16 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: Rainbow Song

Good point,jimnak! I just noticed that on my DVD copy as well! So...there are two sources out there with this song on it! One nice thing about the MusicLaden DVD...rarities like "Moon Song","Green Monkey" and "Wind Wave" join "Rainbow Song".

Message: 35424 Posted: Mon Sep 06 10:39:41 2004 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Rainbow Song

Also if you want to see & hear RAINBOW SONG live, it's on the Musikladen 1975 DVD available via Amazon & others. This is AMERICA live in a studio setting with no audience, what a peformance. This DVD contains some really jazzed up versions of their songs. Peformance is tremendous !

Message: 35423 Posted: Mon Sep 06 10:28:50 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Triv Question Answer (Oops)

Gerry is smiling with some of HIS teeth showing....

Interesting is how Dewey and Gerry held their pose while Dan changed his jacket/peasant shirt.

Message: 35422 Posted: Mon Sep 06 10:16:17 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Triv Question Answer

So, what is the connection between the poster Bruce and a few others here have and "Amber Cascades"?

The answer is that the photo used on the sheet music for "Amber Cascades" was taken during the same photo shoot as the poster; however, it's not the exact photo. There are some slight differences. For instance: The "Amber Cascades" photo is in color. Also, Dan is wearing a peasant-type shirt instead of his snap-up jacket. Dewey and Gerry are, however, wearing the same clothing as in the poster. Gerry is smiling with some of their teeth showing on the "Amber Cascades" photo. Dan's smile isn't nearly as big as on the poster. Also, Dan's right hand is showing; whereas, his left hand isn't which is opposite of the poster photo. Dan appears to be wearing his high school ring on his right hand. Well, it looks like a high school or college-style ring, anyway. Gerry's shirt is mainly reddish-salmon colored with white ocean waves. His shirt also has some green ming-type trees with a couple of pagodas and san-pan boats here and there. Under Dan's multi-colored peasant-style shirt which is mainly white, brown, red (or orange) and black, he's wearing a black t-shirt. Dewey's t-shirt is white with a black ring around the neck area. His jacket is either very dark brown or black.

The frame around the doorway is light blue and very weathered. I find it quite interesting that Dan changed out his jacket to his peasant shirt (or vice versa).

As a side note, the shirt Gerry is wearing is the same shirt he wore for the "Hideaway" promo photo.

Nina ~ I got your message for "Chubby": "#*@!#&*!%@$!&#!!!" And, from your students: "##**@@!!##&&**!!%%@@$$!!&&##!!!!!!" LOL!

Message: 35421 Posted: Mon Sep 06 08:52:22 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Mack The Knife


Glad you spotlighted "Mack The Knife", thanks for the background detail, certainly one monster of a song and a tour-de-force performance by the great Bobby Darin. I am looking forward to the new movie coming out about Bobby Darin, the lead role being played by Kevin Spacey. It should revive a lot of interest in this legend that sadly left us too soon. The movie comes out in the Fall.


Message: 35420 Posted: Mon Sep 06 07:43:45 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Gaitor Bait

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 6, 2004

60 years ago - Roger Waters, bass player for Pink Floyd, is born. (1944)

43 years ago - Bob Dylan debuts at the Gaslight Cafe in New York City. (1961)

41 years ago - Jerry Lee Lewis' contract with Sun Records expires. Within the month he'll sign with Smash Records. (1963)

37 years ago - In the British papers, the U.K. government takes out advertisements explaining its recent enacting of legislation outlawing pirate radio. The prime reason is the interference with ship-to-shore radio frequencies caused by pirate radio stations broadcasting from boats anchored off Britian's coast. (1967)

36 years ago - Eric Clapton records his guitar solo on The Beatles' "While My Guitar Gently Weeps." (1968)

35 years ago - After a show in the Memphis Mid-Southern Coliseum, James Brown announces his retirement from live performance after July 4, 1970. The hardest working man in show business says he's tired. At the same time, he's fighting a paternity suit filed in Sacramento, California by a one-time president of the local James Brown fan club. (1969)

35 years ago - Bob Dylan's "Lay Lady Lay" peaks at #7 on the pop singles chart. (1969)

32 years ago - John and Yoko appear on Jerry Lewis' Muscular Dystrophy Telethon. (1972)

30 years ago - George Harrison inaugurates his new Dark Horse label with the release of "The Place I Love" by a group called Splinter. Harrison produced the album. (1974)

29 years ago - The Rolling Stones' "Out Of Time" peaks at #81 on the pop chart while ZZ Top's "Tush" peaks at #20. (1975)

28 years ago - Fleetwood Mac tops the U.S. LP chart for the first time with "Fleetwood Mac." (1976)

24 years ago - Paul Simon's "One Trick Pony" enters the album charts, as does The Cars' "Panorama," The Allman Brothers' "Reach For The Sky" and Eddie Money's "Playing For Keeps." (1980)

22 years ago - Paul McCartney releases "Tug Of War." (1982)

15 years ago - Neil Young's "This Note For You" wins the MTV award for Best Video -- it was very ironic since the channel had initially refused to air the video. (1989)

15 years ago - The Pittsburgh Steelers are banned from practicing on their own field, Three Rivers Stadium, because The Rolling Stones are rehearsing for their upcoming concert. (1989)

14 years ago - Former CCR member and brother to John, Tom Fogerty, dies at age 48. (1990)

11 years ago - Don Henley, Jimmy Buffett, Elton John, Sting and Aerosmith perform at a benefit concert in Boston for Walden Woods. (1993)

9 years ago - Bruce Hornsby and Branford Marsalis perform the National Anthem in Baltimore's Camden Yards before Cal Ripken Jr. sets baseball's all-time consecutive games played record. (1995)


Lay, Lady, Lay - Bob Dylan

Lay, lady, lay, lay across my big brass bed
Lay, lady, lay, lay across my big brass bed
Whatever colors you have in your mind
I'll show them to you and you'll see them shine

Lay, lady, lay, lay across my big brass bed
Stay, lady, stay, stay with your man awhile
Until the break of day, let me see you make him smile
His clothes are dirty but his hands are clean
And you're the best thing that he's ever seen

Stay, lady, stay, stay with your man awhile
Why wait any longer for the world to begin
You can have your cake and eat it too
Why wait any longer for the one you love
When he's standing in front of you

Lay, lady, lay, lay across my big brass bed
Stay, lady, stay, stay while the night is still ahead
I long to see you in the morning light
I long to reach for you in the night
Stay, lady, stay, stay while the night is still ahead


Two alligators are sitting on the edge of a swamp. The small
one turns to the big one and says, "I don't understand how
you can be so much bigger than me. We're the same age,
we were the same size as kids. I just don't get it."

"Well," says the big alligator, "what have you been eating?"

"Lawyers, same as you," replies the small alligator.

"Hm. Well, where do you catch'em?"

"Down at that law firm on the edge of the swamp."

"Same here. Hm. How do you catch'em?"

"Well, I crawl under a BMW and wait for someone to unlock
the door. Then I jump out, bite'em, shake the crap out of 'em,
and eat 'em!"

"Ah!" says the big alligator, "I think I see your problem.
See, by the time you get done shakin' the crap out of a lawyer,
there's nothin' left but lips and a briefcase."


Here are the Top Fifteen Tunes in Chicago
on September 5, 1977:

I Just Want To Be Your Everything-Andy Gibb
Best Of My Love-Emotions
Handy Man-James Taylor
(Your Love Has Lifted Me) Higher And Higher-Rita Coolidge
Black Betty-Ram Jam
You're My World-Helen Reddy
Undercover Angel-Alan O'Day
How Much Love-Leo Sayer
Don't Stop-Fleetwood Mac
Whatcha Gonna Do-Pablo Cruise
You And Me-Alice Cooper
Star Wars (Main Title)-John Williams & the London Symphony Orchestra
Do You Wanna Make Love-Peter McCann
Ariel-Dean Friedman
Do Ya Wanna Get Funky With Me-Peter Brown


Take it easy on Labor Day!!!!

Red Oak

Message: 35419 Posted: Mon Sep 06 07:35:22 2004 By: Vic
Subject: Former Pres. Clinton

Wishing President Clinton well and a speedy recovery from his surgery.

Message: 35418 Posted: Mon Sep 06 06:47:13 2004 By: Steve Orchard
Subject: Re: Rainbow Song

The only live version I have ever heard of "Rainbow song" is part of the 7 song "King biscuit Flower hour" show that aired in 1978. Its done a bit quicker than the version from "Hat Trick",sort of like the way "Old Man took" took on a quicker tempo as a live version. I also like "Rainbow song" too,and I enjoy the Live version as well.

Message: 35417 Posted: Mon Sep 06 06:47:03 2004 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Rainbow Song

RAINBOW SONG at one time was part of the set list, but no longer. It is another AMERICA LP classic like OLD MAN TOOK. DEWEY played both songs at various times live. RAINBOW SONG live featured the wa wa mouthpiece that DEWEY used just as in the studio cut. Classic AMERICA & DEWEY for sure.

Message: 35416 Posted: Mon Sep 06 06:19:40 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Rainbow Song

I don't think they play much from "The Hat trick album"? The only live song I have heard from that album is "Green Monkey".
A lot of help that was.... :)
Mark M

Message: 35415 Posted: Mon Sep 06 06:00:37 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Re: Havana Ducks (O.T.)

Hi Dan C. - I must have been doing a search at the same time Bluey was just now, after reading your post. I also concluded that you're right! That has to be the same band we saw the other night. (One description read, "Charlie Daniels meets ZZ Top", which fits them quite well.) Not exactly my type of music - but they sure seem to have a following. They did seem like a nice bunch of guys. Thanks for the info! Karen

Message: 35414 Posted: Mon Sep 06 05:46:14 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Rainbow Song

DanC....Dan, I went into the Havana Ducks website and was amazed at the number of links. Firstly, you're right, Pork and The Havana Ducks apparently have been going strong until the demise of Jerry "Pork" Armstrong (1948-2003) They continue as "HDs" and have a DVD out titled "Harley Summerfest 2003" and a new CD "The Havana Ducks Farewell To Pork" featuring the best of Krobar and Wild Child. Their next venue is Harvest Fair, Sept 24,25 and 26th....Man you learn something everyday. Their DVDs, Cds and T-Shirts (look great!) are available through their site.

Getting back to the more serious side of business!

I don't know if someone has an answer to this question but here goes.
I have been to about 6 or 7 America concerts in Oz and one song they have never played and I just don't know why - "Rainbow Song" - it's one of my favourites. It was released as a single, considered good enough to be on the "Definitive" album but does not appear of any of the "live" albums. Has anyone been to a concert where they played it? Thanks


Message: 35413 Posted: Mon Sep 06 04:37:04 2004 By: CJ
Subject: Re: VFTHW - Cleveland

Hmmm, that would be Browns stadium in the distance and the Federal Courthouse on the left - nice view - beats the usual parking lot & water cooler pix!

Had a great time in Cleveland yesterday - did both shows and took my 3 1/2 year old daughter to the first (her first concert, I might add). The setlist was probably the norm (I wouldn't know what's normal since I haven't seen America in nearly a year) but I do know they went over in the first set by 15 minutes and did cut it from the second set. Sandman was flat out awesome as was Never Be Lonely. The view from the front row was a little too far off to the side for my taste but that just gave me room to chair dance and to get up and dance if I needed to without disturbing anyone. All in all, I had a great time! I'm going to have to scrutinize that tour schedule - obviously, I need to do a bit of road trippin' because a year's too long. . .Thanks, Boys!

Chris - Cleveland

Message: 35412 Posted: Sun Sep 05 20:15:48 2004 By: Robyn
Subject: Thanks

Thanks again to all those who posted or sent me a message regarding my mom. YOU ROCK!

Message: 35411 Posted: Sun Sep 05 19:42:41 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Havana Ducks - for Bluey

Back about 20 years ago there was a band playing the central Illinois circuit called Pork and the Havana Ducks. I believe the leader of that band, Pork, died a few years back. I'm wondering if it is the same band you are talking about. If memory serves me correct they were a "Country Rock" group and they were legendary in these parts. DanC.

Message: 35410 Posted: Sun Sep 05 17:49:02 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Havana Ducks - for Bluey

Hey, Bluey - I'm glad you enjoyed my report on that band! I was hoping my description would give some of you an amusing visual. They were selling CDs that night. Had I known, I could have picked one up for you! ; )

Message: 35409 Posted: Sun Sep 05 15:03:57 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Mack The Knife

red oak: Red about "Mack The Knife" - 1959 Bobby Darin version - just a little interesting story behind the scenes. Louis Armstrong rendition of the "Threepenny Opera" classic, a lot of people thought that Darin was influenced by Armstrong's version but Darin insisted in a 1961 Saturday Evening Post feature that he's never heard of that version before he cut his own. The consenus was that the song 'outlines a violent storyline' so to lighten it up, during the December, 1958 recordings Darin yelled out to Lotte Lenya, Kurt Weill's wife (one of singwriters), "Look out, old Mackie's back!" which became his famous tagline. For three takes he yelled out that line and on the fourth take, simply blurted "Mackie's Back!"
For nine weeks in the fall of 1959 the song was No 1 on Billboards's chart and at 1959 Grammy's it was voted song of the year and Bobby Darin - Best New Artist. On Dec 20, 1973, at the age of 37, Darin died on the operating table at Cedars of Lebanon Hospital while undergoing open-heart surgery.

KarenL: "The Havanna Ducks" aka "The Ducks" - absolute legendary. Without a doubt, one of the stories of the year. I'm still laughing. If they have a CD out, I'm buying it sight and sound unheard!. Thanks.


Message: 35408 Posted: Sun Sep 05 13:46:00 2004 By: Nina
Subject: Reply to Johnny

Johnny...Darn it! "Chubby" at the New Mexico State Fair, and me with no way to get there?!?! What a tragedy. If YOU go, will you give him a message for me? Tell him: #*@!#&*!%@$!&#!!! And that goes double for my students!

Message: 35407 Posted: Sun Sep 05 13:36:44 2004 By: AmericanGirl
Subject: Re: VFTHW - Chicago

Nice VFTHW picture! Too bad a Chicago concert didn't accompany that overnight stay...

Gerry, Dewey, hurry to Chicago for a show!!! (For those of us who unfortunately had to miss Milwaukee) :)

Message: 35406 Posted: Sun Sep 05 13:09:43 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - Cleveland

Click here to see the view from Gerry's hotel room in Cleveland, OH.

Message: 35405 Posted: Sun Sep 05 13:08:19 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - Chicago

Click here to see the view from Gerry's hotel room in Chicago, IL.

Message: 35404 Posted: Sun Sep 05 05:52:13 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & AMAP

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 5, 2004

65 years ago - John Stewart(*Gold*) is born. (1939)

59 years ago - Al Stewart(*Year of the Cat*) is born. (1945)

58 years ago - Freddie Mercury, vocalist for Queen, is born. (1946)

40 years ago - "And I Love Her" by The Beatles peaks at #12 on the pop singles chart while "If I Fell" peaks at #53. (1964)

40 years ago - The Animals' "The House Of The Rising Sun" hits #1 on the pop chart. (1964)

40 years ago - Manfred Mann's "Do Wah Diddy Diddy" is released. (1964)

39 years ago - The Rolling Stones fly to Los Angeles to record "Get Off My Cloud" and other tunes. (1965)

36 years ago - Herbert Khaury, known better as Tiny Tim, sues Bouguet Records for $1 million in damages when the record label releases early recordings of Khaury whithout his permission. (1968)

34 years ago - Joe Cocker's "Mad Dogs and Englishmen" enters the LP charts. (1970)

32 years ago - The London Art Spectrum, held at the Alexandria Palace, is the showcade for five of John Lennon and Yoko Ono's avant-guarde films: "Cold Turkey," "The Ballad of John and Yoko," "Give Peace a Chance," "Instant Karma" and "Up Your Leg." (1972)

23 years ago - "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" by Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks peaks at #3 on the singles chart; The Greg Kihn Band's "The Breakup Song (They Don't Write 'Em)" peaks at #15 and Foreigner's "Urgent" peaks at #4. (1981)

23 years ago - Bruce Springsteen joins The Pretenders on stage in Pasadena for a version of "(Your Love Keeps Lifting Me) Higher and Higher." (1981)

18 years ago - Dire Straits' "Money For Nothing" wins and MTV award for Best Video. (1986)

17 years ago - "American Bandstand" was cancelled after 30 years on the air. (1987)

14 years ago - B.B. King receives a star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame. (1990)

13 years ago - R.E.M. wins 5 MTV Video Music awards, including video of the year for "Losing My Religion." (1991)

12 years ago - John Mellencamp and model Elaine Irwin get married at a cabin near Seymour, Indiana, where Mellencamp grew up. They had met during the filming of his video, "Get A Leg Up" and she had appeared on the cover of his album, "Whenever We Wanted." (1992)

12 years ago - Elton John's "The One" peaks at #8 on the LP charts. (1992)

8 years ago - Capitol Records releases The Beatles Anthology video tape set -- which consists of 10 hours of material. (1996)

11 years ago - Guitarist Dave Navarro joins the Red Hot Chili Peppers. (1993)

10 years ago - Rod Stewart and wife Rachael Hunter become parents to son Liam McAllister. (1994)


Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Stevie Nicks with Tom Petty

Baby you'll come knocking on my front door
Same old line you used to use before
I said ya... well... what am I supposed to do
I didn't know what I was getting into

So you've had a little trouble in town
Now you're keeping some demons down
Stop draggin' my...
Stop draggin' my...
Stop draggin' my heart around

It's hard to think about what you've wanted
It's hard to think about what you've lost
This doesn't have to be the big get even
This doesn't have to be anything at all

I know you really want to tell me good-bye
I know you really want to be your own girl

Baby you could never look me in the eye
Yeah you buckle with the weight of the words
Stop draggin' my...
Stop draggin' my...
Stop draggin' my heart around

There's people running 'round loose in the world
Ain't got nothin' better to do
Than make a meal of some bright eyed kid
You need someone looking after you

I know you really want to tell me goodbye
I know you really want to be your own girl

Baby you could never look me in the eye
Yeah you buckle with the weight of the words
Stop draggin' my...
Stop draggin' my...
Stop draggin' my heart around

Stop draggin' my heart around


Poor April has really been beat up these last few weeks over
finding a job. I keep telling her all she has to do is just stand
there and look purty, but she's adamant about looking purty
AND getting paid for it, too.

She went on an interview the other day. She told me how
it went:

Interviewer: "I see you have ASAP down for the date you're
available to start, meaning 'as soon as possible.'"

April: "Yes, that's right. My boyfriend's driving me nuts."

Int: "I see. But you also have AMAP down for required
salary. What does that mean?"

April: "As much as possible."


Over and Out.......

Red Oak

Message: 35403 Posted: Sun Sep 05 05:36:42 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Lone Musician Singing Sandman

I just remembered one more interesting thing I wanted to tell you. In Milwaukee on Thursday, shortly after Linda and I arrived, I stepped out of the stage area so I could check a message on my phone. I went out along the lake, and there was one man standing there playing a guitar and singing. I think there was someone else with him that was hooking things up, "plugging him in", I guess. Anyway, he was singing AMERICA's "Sandman" when I walked past. I thought that was pretty cool.

Message: 35402 Posted: Sat Sep 04 22:46:19 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: America at Milwaukee

Hey Karen, Havana Ducks... interesting name for a band with their kind of style. The band and maybe the keyboard player in particular must've been pretty talented to sing while smoking - lol! Sounds as if it was a long wait till 10pm and the Ducks may have been slightly painful on the ears? Although, I guess it all depends who you ask.

Also, I've learned not to rent cars that have a 6 cd changer - just means more cd's that I mistakenly seem to forget or leave.


Message: 35401 Posted: Sat Sep 04 21:21:53 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: Ike's Slideshow

Ike - The black & white photos are fantastic too! Black & white photos seem pretty rare these days so they're a gem. Yes, it must be great to have your own plane to visit so many cities/locations.


Message: 35400 Posted: Sat Sep 04 15:24:28 2004 By: Cindy
Subject: Dewey, Gerry, Birchmere, Mo & Me

...and lots of others!! It's been 10 years, now it's less than a month away. I can't describe my excitement. All while facing fifty. Life is grand!

Cindy...from the South

Message: 35399 Posted: Sat Sep 04 15:13:48 2004 By: KevinS.
Subject: Ike's page.

I tried to click on the link, Steve, and I got a message saying that the name could not be found.

Not sure why I can't get to the site.


Message: 35398 Posted: Sat Sep 04 14:49:38 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: Ike's Slideshow /Begging...

Ike, your photographs are fantastic! Steve, thanks for the link.

Gerry, how about it- Till the Sun Comes Up Again?
Dewey, I'd love to hear Hell's on Fire!
See you at the Birchmere...only 28 more days for me!

Message: 35397 Posted: Sat Sep 04 12:42:53 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Re: Ike's Slideshow

This is really nice. Thanks for sharing it, Ike and Steve! I'll have to bookmark it to my favorites.

Message: 35396 Posted: Sat Sep 04 11:46:53 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: This & That

Meant to reply to Jen that I'm glad she was able to replace her lost CDs - and you're right, Jen - there were fireworks at Summerfest Encore too.

I've been meaning to share this with all of you, as maybe you can appreciate my excitement. One of my older brothers - he's 10 years older than I am - was talking with me at a Fathers' Day picnic at my parents house back in June. It happened to be a couple days after I saw AMERICA in Dubuque, so I was telling him about the concert and showing him pictures. We were also talking about what a cool city Dubuque is and how fun it is to visit, but we were mostly discussing AMERICA. Well, last weekend I was talking with my sister-in-law (his wife) at a bridal shower, and she told me that my brother doesn't buy many CDs but, as a result of our conversation, he went out and bought AMERICA's Complete Greatest Hits (not to be confused with the incomplete greatest hits - lol) AND they'd like me to let them know if AMERICA comes to Dubuque again. They'll go see the concert!! They live in Madison, WI, but would like to take their kids to Dubuque for a visit anyway - and my brother is remembering what a great band AMERICA is, so they'd like to do that for those reasons. Anyway, I was just very happy that there's yet another fan "on board" and was kind of proud to have an influence over my big brother.

Last thing - Moser's Degrees of Separation - America game: last night at our school's football game, I saw the name Beckley in the game program. The superintendent of the school our team played against has the last name Beckley. It caught my eye because I've never run across that name except for Gerry's.

Message: 35395 Posted: Sat Sep 04 10:15:35 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Poster/Fogelberg (And A Triv Question)


I know Chubby Checker did Nina wrong, he went way low on that Limbo bar, leaving her hanging...But, if you can catch his show,do so, he is a great showman and at 60 something he is a surviving classic from the rock's golden era. He still puts on one heck of show full of energy and one booming voice. It's worth seeing just to hear his classics "The Twist", "Let's Twist Again", "Limbo Rock" and "Pony Time". Plus he does great impersonations of Fats Domino and Elvis.


Message: 35394 Posted: Sat Sep 04 07:40:05 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Stall Tactics

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 4, 2004

53 years ago - Martin Chambers, drummer for the Pretenders is born. (1951)

47 years ago - WJZ-TV in Baltimore debuts "The Buddy Deane Bandstand." It's a rock and roll show running three to five, Monday through Saturday. Viewers go crazy for the show and when there's a chance to call in and talk to one of the celebrities, the phone lines are swamped. The phone company are forced to ask Deane to desist. (1957)

45 years ago - In the wake of the stabbing deaths of two teenagers by a 17 year old and other similar incidents of violence in New York City, WCBS radio in the Big Apple bans all versions of of "Mack the Knife." The tune is currently a chart climber for Bobby Darin. (1959)

43 years ago - The Marvelettes first hit, "Please Mr. Postman," enters the Hot 100 at # 95. It will be Number One on both the pop and R&B charts and be covered by the Beatles and the Carpenters. (1961)

42 years ago - John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr begin recording together for the first time at EMI's St. John Studio. They record 6 songs including "Love Me Do" and "P.S., I Love You". George Martin had the boys redo "Love Me Do" 16 times. (1962)

40 years ago - The Animals make their U.S. performing debut at the Brooklyn Paramount Theatre, which re-opened for the group's ten night stand after being closed for several years. Other acts appearing with the Animals include Jan & Dean, Bobby Rydell, Del Shannon, the Dixie Cups, Dee Dee Sharp and Chuck Berry. (1964)

39 years ago - The Who have their equipment van stolen outside the Battersea Dog's Home in England while they are inside the Home purchasing a guard dog. (1965)

39 years ago - The Beatles' "Help!" hits #1 on the pop singles chart, while Bob Dylan's "Like A Rolling Stone" peaks at #2; In addition, Wilson Pickett's "In The Midnight Hour" peaks at #21, James Brown's "Papa's Got A Brand New Bag, Part 1" peaks at #8 and Smokey Robinson and the Miracles' "The Tracks Of My Tears" peaks at #16. (1965)

38 years ago - The Supremes' "You Can't Hurry Love" hits #1 on the pop singles chart. (1966)

36 years ago - The Rolling Stones latest single, "Street Fighting Man" is banned in Chicago and other American cities where authorities fear it might "incite riots and other forms of public disorder." (1968)

36 years ago - Currently riding the charts with "People Got to be Free," the Rascals add two LP's to their collection of gold records: their two year old debut, "The Young Rascals" and their greatest hits collection, "Time Peace." (1968)

35 years ago - The Youngbloods do not appear on "The Tonight Show" as scheduled. As Johnny Carson puts it in his monologue, "They complained about the set, the lighting, the sound, the show-everything. So we wiped their noses, told them they'd been in show business a day and a half and sent them home." Youngblood Banana retorts, "We weren't treated like guests so much as outcasts." (1969)

34 years ago - George Harrison releases "My Sweet Lord." (1970)

34 years ago - The Rolling Stones release their live album, "Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out." (1970)

33 years ago - A story in the New York Times says that Sylvester Stewart's West Hollywood landlord is suing the rock star for $3 million. The landlord says that because of Sly, his building is inundated with "loud, noisy, boisterous persons," and wants Stewart out. (1971)

33 years ago - The Doors' "Riders On The Storm" peaks at #14 on the pop singles chart while Paul McCartney's "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey" hits #1!! (1971)

28 years ago - Aerosmith is awarded a gold record for "Rocks." (1976)

28 years ago - Kiss' "Beth" is released. (1976)

27 years ago - Paul Simonson of the Clash says in an interview with New Musical Express that the Clash shouldn't be labeled a political band, saying, "I didn't even know who the Prime Minister was until a few weeks ago!" (1977)

26 years ago - About 66,000 Dead Heads attend the Grateful Dead's Labor Day concert at Giants Stadium in New Jersey. (1978)

24 years ago - A new version of Yes, with Chris Squire, Steve Howe, Alan White, Geoff Downes and Trevor Horn sell out a three night stand at New York's 19,000 seat Madison Square Garden. (1980)

22 years ago - The Stray Cats album, "Built For Speed" enters the LP charts. The album contains the hits "Rock This Town" and "Stray Cat Strut." (1982)

22 years ago - The Steve Miller Band's "Abracadabra" hits #1 on the pop chart. (1982)

18 years ago - Gregg Allman was arrested for drunk driving in Florida. He had just gotten his license back after a five-year suspension. (1986)

8 years ago - Yusaf Islam, formerly known as Cat Stevens, emerged from seclusion in London to sign copies of his first album in 18 years -- which was 80% talk. (1996)

8 years ago - The Smashing Pumpkins win 7 MTV Video Awards, including Best Video for "Tonight Tonight." (1996)

7 years ago - Bruce Springsteen joins the Wallflowers on stage at the MTV Video Music Awards at Radio City Music Hall. Bruce trades vocals and guitar licks with Jakob Dylan on "One Headlight." Sting also makes an appearance, joining Puff Daddy for "I'll Be Missing You." (1997)


Abracadabra - Steve Miller Band

I heat up, I can't cool down
You got me spinnin'
'Round and 'round
'Round and 'round and 'round it goes
Where it stops nobody knows

Every time you call my name
I heat up like a burnin' flame
Burnin' flame full of desire
Kiss me baby, let the fire get higher

I want to reach out and grab ya

You make me hot, you make me sigh
You make me laugh, you make me cry
Keep me burnin' for your love
With the touch of a velvet glove

I want to reach out and grab ya

I feel the magic in your caress
I feel magic when I touch your dress
Silk and satin, leather and lace
Black panties with an angel's face

I see magic in your eyes
I hear the magic in your sighs
Just when I think I'm gonna get away
I hear those words that you always say

I want to reach out and grab ya

Every time you call my name
I heat up like a burnin' flame
Burnin' flame full of desire
Kiss me baby, let the fire get higher

I heat up, I can't cool down
My situation goes 'round and 'round
I heat up, I can't cool down
My situation goes 'round and 'round
I heat up, I can't cool down
My situation goes 'round and 'round


I left Montreal heading toward Quebec city, when I decided
to stop at a comfort station. The first stall was occupied, so I
went into the second one. I was no sooner seated than I
heard a voice from the next stall:

"Hi, how are you doing?"

Well, I am not the type to chat with strangers in highway
comfort stations, and I really don't know quite what pos-
sessed me, but anyway, I answered, a little embarrassed:

"Not bad."

And the stranger said: "And, what are you up to?"

Talk about your dumb questions! I was really beginning to
think this was too weird! So I said:

"Well, just like you, I'm driving east."

Then, I heard the stranger, all upset, say, "Look, I'll call
you back, there's some idiot in the next stall answering all
the questions I am asking you."


Have a great Holiday weekend all................

NancyH, get yourself up to Pittsburgh tomorrow for Little Rive Band. Hearing Night Owls, Cool Change & Lady are worth the price of admission.

Red Oak

Message: 35393 Posted: Sat Sep 04 07:04:54 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Ike's Slideshow

Ike Gauley has updated his America web page including the addition of a slide show. Click on the preceding link to check it out.

Message: 35392 Posted: Sat Sep 04 06:40:19 2004 By: Shirley
Subject: America at Summerfest

Linda, your pictures are great! Thanks from all of us who couldn't make it to Milwaukee.

Message: 35391 Posted: Sat Sep 04 05:43:16 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Re: America at Milwaukee

Wow, Linda - those are great photos! Good job, and thanks for preserving some memories for us! My favorite is #7 - I told you all that they were full of smiles. I want a poster of that one - lol! More smiles captured in #38. Anyway, it's great to see they enjoy doing what they do - we sure appreciate their work.

Chuck and Jen asked about the bands beforehand. There were two before AMERICA. The first one went on at 4:00 and was actually quite good. They were called The Orphans and consisted of a middle-aged man, and a very young woman and a young man. We wondered if it was maybe a father and his daughter and son. They played other bands' songs - did a couple U2 songs, as well as Cinnamon Girl, Bridge Over Troubled Water, can't think of many more right now - but we liked every one! The second band, The Havana Ducks, came on at 7:00. The Summerfest website had a comment about them that they were "popular with bikers" (the Harley Davidson kind). Well, they were right! Quite a few bikers were on hand to listen to them. (After all, Milwaukee is a Harley town!) It was kind of amusing - three or four of that band were smoking during the show. Not that it's a good thing, but it was amusing. Linda and I wondered how the keyboard player could sing with a cigarette in his mouth. A couple of the guitar players would somehow prop their smoking cigarette in the neck of their guitars. Dewey & Gerry - don't feel you have to try that to entertain us, you guys do a good enough job just playing your music - lol!

Needless to say, we were very happy when AMERICA took the stage at 10:00 p.m. No question about it, they were well worth the wait! Thanks, AMERICA, for your kindness and great talent and for visiting us in Wisconsin so much this year. We love you guys!


Message: 35390 Posted: Fri Sep 03 22:51:46 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Poster/Fogelberg (And A Triv Question)

<<You may not want to part with it, Bruce, if there's only 3 left in the whole wide world!>>

Make that at least 4 left, Nina. : )

By the way, Chubby Checker is playing the New Mexico State Fair this year which I believe starts tomorrow or maybe it opened tonight. I just thought perhaps you (Nina) can't live without this "vital" piece of info. haa-haa

Can anyone tell us how the poster Bruce and Nina mentioned has a connection to Dewey's "Amber Cascades"?

Message: 35389 Posted: Fri Sep 03 20:06:36 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: America at Milwaukee

Heard "Room for Summer" and Sting's "Sacred Love" earlier, mistakenly left them in a rental car and was glad to replace them. Great cd's for a long commute. I always seem to leave a few in a rental every time.

Hey, Karen & Linda sounds like a great time at the Summerfest! Too bad Chuck missed it. It seems you've been pretty lucky in Wisconsin this year. Six hours early... you must've been the first one's there and a late night too. Yeah, any other interesting band's? Did I hear there were firework's too or maybe I'm thinking of some other event? Nice Photos Linda!


Message: 35388 Posted: Fri Sep 03 19:22:50 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Re: America at Milwaukee

Linda, just viewed your photos. Sooo great! I see you got one of Gerry with a big smile. I'm glad you had a good time!

Message: 35387 Posted: Fri Sep 03 19:22:03 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Next Up?

Next up:
Cleveland ROCKS! Cleveland ROCKS!

Message: 35386 Posted: Fri Sep 03 19:19:34 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: America at Milwaukee

Good show, ole chap. Great photos. Thank you, thank you, and thank you again. The boys look all tanned and luscious...especially Woodz!!

I'm glad you guys had a good time. Great reporting job!!

Message: 35385 Posted: Fri Sep 03 18:47:54 2004 By: Linda
Subject: Re: America at Milwaukee

We sure had a great time at the concert last night! Gary, Jan, Karen & I got there nearly 6 hours early to make sure we'd get front and center. As always, the guys were well-worth our wait. The only thing I wish I could have changed was that they'd play on the stage they're normally on at this venue. They were having problems hearing themselves because there was other music coming from both sides of the stage. And the seating area was covered by a metal ceiling, which made things echo a bit - made it pretty hard to hear them when they were talking. Even with all of that, they still sounded great! I really love watching them do the intro to Sandman. Life is throwing me a few curves these days, so Survival has taken on a whole new meaning for me. So glad they included that one. Unfortunately, several songs were crossed off of the list. I suppose even if they did sing them all, would it ever be enough? The time went way too fast, but we sure were left with some great memories. I was hoping they'd surprise us with the new DVDs...I can always hope, right? We managed to see Gerry and Dewey backstage as they were autographing some things for other fans. I mentioned missing All My Life to Gerry, and he said it was getting to hard to hear themselves. I understand - now if they'd just come and sing in my backyard, we wouldn't have to worry about the extra noise! Meant to comment on Dewey's fishing pictures, but of course I forgot. We waved them on as they left in the van, and then the four of us couldn't stop talking about all the fun we had. Thanks guys for a great show and for taking the time to pose with us!!
If you'd like to see my pictures, you can go to:
I couldn't decide which ones to leave out, so there are 50 of them!

~~ Linda

Message: 35384 Posted: Fri Sep 03 18:15:35 2004 By: Nina
Subject: Re: Poster/Fogelberg

Bruce...I, too, have that black and white poster of Gerry, Dewey, and Dan standing in sort of a doorway? A fellow fan here on the folder sent it to me for free! I know that she has another one that she kept for herself, but I forget exactly where she purchased hers. It might have been e-bay. I had never seen this poster until it was sent to me a couple of years ago, so it may indeed be rare. I'm just wondering how many other fans out there might have the same one we're talking about? You may not want to part with it, Bruce, if there's only 3 left in the whole wide world!

I keep checking my PBS listings and can't find any night time showings of the Dan Fogelberg concert. I've waited for over a year for this Soundstage to air and now I have to get up at 5AM on Sept. 10th to see it here in Massachusetts?!? GRRRRRRRRR! (My Gerry and Dewey wouldn't do this to me! Chubby Checker, yes...but Gerry and Dewey, no!

Message: 35383 Posted: Fri Sep 03 10:28:14 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: 70's music CD (for Bluey)

Sounds like you got a great deal with "That 70's Album" CD. All Great songs! "Wild Fire" is one of my all time favorites. "On and On" By Stephen Bishop and "Year of the Cat" by Al Stewart are favorites too, and I don't have either on CD, so I'm going to look for it on Yahoo and see if I can get the complete listing. Maybe I'll order one too...Thanks for sharing the info. By the way, another great series of 70's music is the "Have a Nice Day" one, it comes out a little costly, simply because each CD only brings a dozen songs and there are many volumes. I have a few fo them, and you can rely on the fact that you are getting the original hit by the original artist in a quality recording.

A great Labor Day weekend to all,

Message: 35382 Posted: Fri Sep 03 10:11:47 2004 By: Chuck
Subject: Re: America at Milwaukee

Yes, it's true...I bugged out of the excursion to Milwaukee. We are leaving for St Louis in an hour and I decided I didn't want to get home at 2am and then drive for 9 hours today. And now that I read Karen's post, I am sorry I missed it.

So Karen, where did you stand/sit? Did you get to see the guys after the show? How were the bands beforehand? What did you EAT?

I think America has booked a concert in Northern Wisconsin sometime in Feb. Dewey needs to get to his land up north, and do some fun things in the snow, so they're coming back to Wisconsin in several months. We are considering a long weekend then for some music and snow fun...

Have a great weekend!


Message: 35381 Posted: Fri Sep 03 09:22:00 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM -Mark M

Mark, I've listened to the CD 5 times since I picked it up yesterday afternoon. I really like it.

Message: 35380 Posted: Fri Sep 03 08:11:55 2004 By: Dan
Subject: Re: America at Milwaukee

So much for shakin' up the set list...I would love to sit down and have a word or 2 with John Lennon...I'm off today but my AM jam at home has me listening to an assortment of J.J. Cale. It's called mellow Friday by the pool.DanC.

Message: 35379 Posted: Fri Sep 03 08:00:18 2004 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Dan Peek touring?

I don't think Dan has toured since the 80's. He seems to have spent most of the 90's on an island in semi-retirement. Not that there's anything wrong with that. In fact, I wish that I could do that.

Message: 35378 Posted: Fri Sep 03 07:54:10 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

How is the "new Asia cd"? Great band!

Message: 35377 Posted: Fri Sep 03 07:43:43 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

It's a recording of a lot of great singles.
"Pickin' up the peices, high em' high, sister Christian (not golden hair)Band on the run, Knockin'on Heavens door....more.

Message: 35376 Posted: Fri Sep 03 07:37:21 2004 By: Mark M.
Subject: Re: Thursday's DVD

Your or dead:
"Paul McCartney" There is no other choice!!! :)

Message: 35375 Posted: Fri Sep 03 07:23:01 2004 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

ASIA - Silent Nation (new CD)

Message: 35374 Posted: Fri Sep 03 07:01:12 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Music Person I'd Like To Meet/To Have Met

I'd like to meet Dewey, Huey and Louie...Na, just kidding, I would like to meet Dewey, Gerry and Dan and thank each one in person for the great music they've given us through the decades.

Message: 35373 Posted: Fri Sep 03 06:29:02 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B's, History, Rhonda & The Ferrari

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 3, 2004

62 years ago - Al Jardine of the Beach Boys is born. (1942)

49 years ago - Bill Haley & the Comets turn down their first invitation to tour outside of the U.S. because of a fear of flying. The Australian offer of $2,000 for 15 dates wasn't enough to get them on a plane. (1955)

49 years ago - Billboard reports independent record manufacturers are continuing to expand at an unprecented rate. They took in $20 million last year. (1955)

38 years ago - The Four Tops "Reach Out I'll be There" enters the Hot 100 where it claims the Number One position on October 15. (1966)

38 years ago - Donovan's "Sunshine Superman" hits #1 on the chart, while Stevie Wonder's "Blowin' In The Wind" peaks at #9. (1966)

38 years ago - Question Mark and the Mysterians' "96 Tears" makes into the Hot 100 where it will peak at Number One for a week on October 29. (1966)

37 years ago - Folk singer Woody Guthrie dies of Huntington's Chorea in New York City. He was 52. (1967)

35 years ago - The Four Seasons' "I've Got You Under My Skin" is released. (1969)

34 years ago - Rolling Stone reports that the Bob Dylan bootleg "Great White Wonder" has sold over 350,000 copies and that the Dave Clark Five have broken up. (1970)

34 years ago - At the Palermo Pop '70 Festival in Italy, Arthur Brown (of the Crazy World of..) is arrested and put in solitary confinement for four days after he set fire to his helmet and stripped naked during his stage performance. The audience threw all sorts of things at him. While in solitary, he was given a note signed by over 200 locals telling him to get out of Italy and stay out. (1970)

31 years ago - The Rolling Stones' "Angie" is released. (1973)

28 years ago - 110,000 fans descend on Old Bridge, New Jersey for an eleven hour concert by the Grateful Dead, the New Riders of the Purple Sage and the Marshall Tucker Band. (1976)

27 years ago - Heart's "Barracuda" peaks at #11 on the pop singles chart. (1977)

27 years ago - Styx' "The Grand Illusion" LP enters the charts. (1977)

22 years ago - The three day U.S. Festival gets under way in San Bernardino, California. Over 400,000 people show up to hear Fleetwood Mac, the Police, Jackson Browne, Tom Petty, the Grateful Dead, the Cars, Pat Benatar, Talking Heads, Dave Edmunds, Santana, the B-52's, the Kinks, Eddie Money, the Ramones, Gang of Four, the English Beat and Jerry Jeff Walker. It's financed by Steve Wozniak, the founder of the Apple Computer Company. (1982)

21 years ago - Stevie Ray Vaughn and Double Trouble's "Texas Flood" LP enters the chart. (1983)

21 years ago - The Eurythmics "Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)" hits #1 on the pop singles chart. (1983)

12 years ago - David Bowie appears on the cover of "Architectural Digest", the first human to do so in 4 years. He tells the magazine that, "my ambition is to make music so uncompromising that I will have no audience left." (1992)

10 years ago - Former Stray Cat leader Brian Setzer marries Christine Schmidt. (1994)

10 years ago - The Rolling Stones' "Love Is Strong" peaks at #91 on the singles chart. (1994)

10 years ago - John Mellencamp and Me'Shell NdegeOcello's remake of Van Morrison's "Wild Night" peaks at #3 on the singles chart. (1994)

10 years ago - Crosby, Stills and Nash release the LP, "After The Storm." (1994)


The Beach Boys - Help Me Rhonda
Lead Vocals - Al Jardine

Well since she put me down I 've been out doin' in my head
I come in late at night and in the mornin' I just lay in bed

Well, Rhonda you look so fine (look so fine)
And I know it wouldn't take much time
For you to help me Rhonda
Help me get her out of my heart

Help me Rhonda
Help, help me Rhonda
Help me Rhonda
Help, help me Rhonda
Help me Rhonda
Help, help me Rhonda
Help me Rhonda
Help, help me Rhonda
Help me Rhonda
Help, help me Rhonda
Help me Rhonda
Help, help me Rhonda
Help me Rhonda yeah
Get her out of my heart

She was gonna be my wife
And I was gonna be her man
(Oh Rhonda)
But she let another guy come between us
And it shattered our plans
(Oh Rhonda)

Well, Rhonda you caught my eye (caught my eye)
And I can give you lotsa reasons why
You gotta help me Rhonda
Help me get her out of my heart

Help me Rhonda
Help, help me Rhonda
Help me Rhonda
Help, help me Rhonda
Help me Rhonda
Help, help me Rhonda
Help me Rhonda
Help, help me Rhonda
Help me Rhonda
Help, help me Rhonda
Help me Rhonda
Help, help me Rhonda
Help me Rhonda yeah
Get her out of my heart


A brand new Ferrari

A hip young man goes out and buys the best car available: A brand new
Ferrari GTO. It is also the most expensive car in the world, and it costs him $500,000. He takes it out for a spin and stops at a red light.

An old man on a moped, looking about 100 years old, pulls up next to him. The old man looks over at the sleek, shiny car and asks, "What kind of car ya' got there, sonny?"

The young man replies, "A Ferrari GTO. It cost half a million dollars!"

"That's a lot of money," says the old man. "Why does it cost so much?"

"Because this car can do up to 320 miles an hour!" states the young dude proudly.

The moped driver asks, "Mind if I take a look inside?"

"No problem," replies the owner.

So the old man pokes his head in the window and looks around. Then,
sitting back on his moped, the old man says, "That's a pretty nice car, all right... but I'll stick with my moped!"

Just then the light changes, so the guy decides to show the old man just what his car can do. He floors it, and within 30 seconds, the speedometer reads 160 mph!

Suddenly, he notices a dot in his rear view mirror. It seems to be getting closer! He slows down to see what it could be, and suddenly...Whoooooosssshhhhh!

Something whips by him, going much faster! "What on Earth could be going faster than my Ferrari?" the young man asks himself.

He floors the accelerator and takes the Ferrari up to 250 mph. Then, up ahead of him, he sees that it's the old man on the moped! Amazed that the moped could pass his Ferrari, he gives it more gas and passes the moped at 275 mph. Whoooooosssshhhhh! He's feeling pretty good until he looks in his mirror and sees the old man gaining on him again!

Astounded by the speed of this old guy, he floors the gas pedal and takes the Ferrari all the way up to 320 mph. Not ten seconds later, he sees the moped bearing down on him again! The Ferrari is flat out, and there's nothing he can do! Suddenly, the moped plows into the back of his Ferrari, demolishing the rear end. The young man stops and jumps out, and unbelievably, the old man is still alive.

He runs up to the mangled old man and says, "Oh my God!
Is there anything I can do for you?"

The old man whispers with his dying breath..."Unhook... my...suspenders...from...your...side view mirror."


TGIF everyone, we made it, enjoy your Holiday weekend.
Watch out for anyone on a Moped! :-)

Red Oak

Message: 35372 Posted: Fri Sep 03 06:09:12 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: America at Milwaukee

Thanks for your interest in the Milwaukee show, those of you who asked for us to post about it!

I think the others that went might also post some info on it - and yes - possibly a few pictures too! I'll post more later as well! It was a 10:00 show - so a late one! I got home at 2:00 a.m., got a few hours sleep and had to get up to get the boys off to school, so I haven't had time to get my thoughts together for you just yet (even though I thought about the time with friends and the show itself all the way home, and since the moment I woke up)!

It was a BEAUTIFUL day on the shores of Lake Michigan - what a way to wind down summer! Warm sunshine, sailboats dotting the horizon, and a festive atmosphere all around.

For now I'll just post the set list, and I promise to help fill in the details a little later in another post, along with the other fans that went!

Ventura Highway
You Can Do Magic
Don't Cross the River
Daisy Jane
I Need You
Nowhere Man
Tin Man
The Border
Woman Tonight
Only In Your Heart
California Dreamin'
Lonely People
Never Be Lonely
Sister Golden Hair
Horse With No Name

As usual, it went by way too fast. I know some of us hope to hear some of their other songs at their concerts, but I still come away so happy to have seen them perform these. I don't think I could ever get tired of their shows! I know others have said this other times, but they all looked very happy - smiling and bouncing around the stage. When I see them like that, it just brings a smile to my face instantly. My America "high" is still going strong! Good thing I took today off work - I'm sure I'd have trouble concentrating on anything else!

More later!

Message: 35371 Posted: Fri Sep 03 05:51:25 2004 By: Johnny
Subject: Music Person I'd Like To Meet/To Have Met

Bluey ~ Interesting question! For me, I'd definitely like to met and chat with Dan Peek.

Message: 35370 Posted: Fri Sep 03 05:38:18 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Re: Bruce's poster.

I agree with Kevin. I thought of the Harbor era right away, too. I would guess late '76 or early '77.

Message: 35369 Posted: Fri Sep 03 05:12:13 2004 By: KevinS.
Subject: Dan Peek touring?

Where did you hear that? Is it true?

Message: 35368 Posted: Fri Sep 03 04:59:51 2004 By: Sheldon
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

Bee Gees: The Record .. awesome 2 disc set!

Message: 35367 Posted: Fri Sep 03 04:19:32 2004 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Friday AM JAM

Sarah Brightman - Harem...great CD

Message: 35366 Posted: Fri Sep 03 03:07:58 2004 By: Julie
Subject: Friday AM JAM

"Ventura Highway" - gearing up for Birchmere...only 29 more to go.......What's keeping you company on your morning commute???

Message: 35365 Posted: Fri Sep 03 03:00:58 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Thursday's DVD

Jenna: Trust me I'm from Generation 1800 when it comes to computers. Ask SteveL! Apparently the Regions only have to do with DVDs. I pick my DVD up on Thursday, so if I don't like it you can have the bloody thing! All I can remember on the night was, it was so HOT.
I don't know if the air-conditioing was off in the Opera House but both Dewey and Gerry said a number of times how hot it was. They both had jackets on but got rid of them pretty quickly. If you have a look at the Opera House DVD site, you will see them both wearing jackets, God it was hot.

Hey Sergio, you know talking about the 60s, the 70s wasn't that bad either! I went down to the HMV store to order John Sebastian's "Welcome Back" single. I used to have to cassette of the same name but I wanted the CD. Of course I couldn't get it so the young bloke told me about a double CD "That 70s Album" with that song on it. Ordered it. When it arrived, went down and collected it and the first name I saw on the cover, America - "Ventura Highway". Just to mention a couple of songs on it - "Gold" John Stewart (what a great album "Bombs Away Dream Babies"!) "Wild Fire" -Michael Murphy - "On And On" Stephen Bishop - "Lowdown" Boz Scaggs - "Year Of The Cat" - Al Stewart....34 the 60s but 70s, I must admit was vintage.

Is that right? Dan Peek touring? I'm almost tempted about putting a couple of stamps on the forehead and mailing me to some Post office in the Northern Hemisphere. America and maybe Dan Peek, can someone claim me?

Last Question: I was only thinking today, what person (living or dead) would you have like to have met (in the music business) if you could have had the chance? I don't know if SteveL, Dewey or Gerry have, but (having seen some History Channel programmes) Sam Phillips, the "Discoverer" of Elvis, Johnny Cash, Jerry Lewis etc, must have been an extraordinary man. What's your choice?

Enjoy your concerts. All us Aussies have got now is next weeks DVD (Heh- Heh)

Regards Bluey.

Message: 35364 Posted: Thu Sep 02 20:03:13 2004 By: KevinS.
Subject: Re: Bruce's poster.

Bruce: I would guess that poster is from 1977. It looks like Harbor era. Dan's hair and jacket, Gerry's shirt.


Message: 35363 Posted: Thu Sep 02 18:18:13 2004 By: Nancy
Subject: Re:VFTHW ~ Milwaukee Pic & Some Ramblins!

Hi Everyone ~~ Triple Wowsers Bruce ~ This is One Nice Poster ~ Are You REALLY SURE You want to Sell it??? ~~Hmmm they were just Blossoms on the Vine then! Nice :) ~~ Hmmm I have been hitting the replay button on the Hearts & Harbor songs alot this week, this poster pic sure fits in Nicely! :)

Soooo Nice to see the Return of the VFTHW Pics Gerry ~~Looks as tho you all were greeted by the same upside down blue ocean sky, that we had here in PA all day, the wispy cloud lines and the Jets Smoke Streams were having a game of X & O's. ~~ Be sure and check out Mr Moon tonight, He sure has been shining at his Best the last couple of nights. What a Fantabulous Night Setting to Enjoy an AMERICA show! Have a Great Time Karen L, Chuck, Linda and anyone else that is Lucky Enough to be there at the show right about now. I Hope there are some Suprises in store for you and us (Like Maybe getting to hear when the Release Date for the Sydney Live Show DVD will be here in the States) ;) ;) ;) ~~ I have been sooooo Patient waiting to find this out!!!! ~~ Please come and Give Us the Whole Scoop of IceCream on this show! :)

Yeppers Jen ~~ I gotta agree with you ~these picnic tables do look kinda Lonely! What a neat tucked away Lunch setting, I'd be willing to bet, it has had lots of Company over the summer! A Great way to escape the Stresses of the day for sure! :)

Yes Anita ~ I Hope Hurricane Frances will act like a Lady and spare Fla. her wrath! ~~ My prayers will be with all, that has to be hard you knowing your daughter is there in her path! I Hope all will be Fine!

Roll On Reddddddddd ~~ I just gotta say you had me Laughing soooo silently hard at my work the other day has I read your Humpday calling in sick story! What a Hahahahah ~~~ OUCH kinda story! 2222much! ~~ Yeppers ~~ I think I will take the Holiday Inn reservation for when I am older! Hmmm this one really Makes Sense, I wonder how many Baby Boomers have talked their Parents into Agreeing to this Living Arrangement!~~~Sooo Many neat History Happenins, and a Big Belated Happy B'days to Van the Man & Barry Gibb ~~ Nice choice of Song Lyrics you shared with us in honor of these great music artists! :) ~~ Phil Collins has been in your History facts alot lately, I just found out he has a new song that will be released for radio, from a new CD Collection titled "Love Songs" that is expected to be released in Oct., also in time for the Holiday gift giving, an 8hr DVD of his songs, and the CBS Special(I am wondering if I missed this special of his, or if it is yet to be)and a Interview too... Wow 8 Hours of Phil ~ this should be neat to see! ~~ Also nice to read in Steve O's weekly music news column about Christine McVie's new cd release, this too should be interesting to hear! ;)

Thanks a Bunch RC for the Dan Fogelberg Soundstage Info... I got my new PBS Guide for Sept, and Dan's show will be on here in my area,in the wee morning hours of Sept 12th & 13th, I hope to Tape this, if I can get my out of whack VCR settings working again! ~~This saturday at 10 pm my time, Peter Cetera & AmyGrant is on again... boo hoo, this show is soooo good, but it is a repeat, sooo it should have been put on in the wee hours of the morning,instead of Dan's. ~~ Steve Winwood has a Soundstage coming up soon too! :)

Hey there Mark M ~~ Nice AMERICA Sign ~Isn't it neat how little things like that take our thoughts to all of the Friends that weave this chat folder and site together! ~~ Thanks for sharing this with us! :)
Gerry is here singing "Houses In White" ~~ Boy does this song Haunt the Soul... I just Love everything about it! ~~ Also playing here, the songs from the Like a Brother collection. ~~ Watching the Time is soooooo Nice, I love the way Gerry did lead on one version, and I always want to think it is Carl Wilson doing the lead on the other version, but I think it is Brian Wilson doing this lead... I really love both versions, such a great thinking song! :)

Hmmm ~ I Know there is something that hasn't spilled from my fingertips, I will think of it as soon as I send this... Ohhhhh well, thanks for reading my ramblins.. In case I don't get to post tomorrow, Have a great Labor Day weekend everyone! Nitey Nite all, Nancy :) ;)

~~~ the yellow racin dream boat on California airrr, single engine cowboyyy, out in county fairs, sooooo Oooh Baby hurry here to Meee, ooooh Baby come seeeeee me, oooooh baby let the hours flee, oooh baby come seee meeee....~~~ there's a world waiting, just for You to unfold, how are you to know if you don't seee, if you don't seee, those yellow racin dream boats on california air, there's a ticket waitin, I Guess I'll Catch you There, I guess I'll Catch you There... Sing it again Dewey, Play that harmonica for us again Gerry, what a nice gem this song is! :):):)

Message: 35362 Posted: Thu Sep 02 17:38:21 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Hurricane Frances


I second your good advice and I hope your daughter will be safe. I too am extremely concerned for my many cousins, aunts and friends that live throughout the Miami area. Hopefully, they will keep safe...This is an extraordinarily large hurricane.


Message: 35361 Posted: Thu Sep 02 15:48:31 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: DVD - Bluey

Bluey, thanks for all the useful info about the regions for DVD's. I'm still techno-challenged but maybe one of these days I'll join the 21st Century (Lol) I'll have to figure out if I can change the region or format on my Dell too. Although I better not try it with my work pc or I'd get in too much trouble. In the meantime enjoy the DVD!


Message: 35360 Posted: Thu Sep 02 15:47:05 2004 By: Anita
Subject: Hurricane Frances

To those folder participants (and everyone else) weathering this dangerous storm (including my 19-year-old daughter at the U. of Miami)-- stay safe!

Message: 35359 Posted: Thu Sep 02 15:04:28 2004 By: Jenna
Subject: Re: VFTHW - Milwaukee

It appears to be a great day for a Summerfest! Nice view of the architecture of Milwaukee too. (but those picnic tables look a little lonely?)


Message: 35358 Posted: Thu Sep 02 13:41:36 2004 By: Bruce David Martin
Subject: Poster For Sale

As much as this hurts, due to space limitations in my small NYC apartment, I am selling a rare (I've never seen another one) Warner Brothers AMERICA poster. I just have to clear out my apartment - we're renovating and I'm becoming a "minimalist"! I bought it years ago at a "rock collectibles" store for $150. It measures 21 x27 inches and has the Warner Brothers Records logo in the lower right corner. I would grade it "mint minus" because there is a slight small crinkle in the lower left corner (it would be obscured by framing the poster). I can only guess it's circa 1973 - I'm just not sure. The poster has been kept flat since I bought it - I have never framed it. If anyone is seriously interested in purchasing it, please e-mail me. I'll throw in an autographed (Gerry & Dewey) color "Human Nature" poster to the lucky purchaser. Thanks!


Message: 35357 Posted: Thu Sep 02 12:04:23 2004 By: AmericaSL
Subject: VFTHW - Milwaukee

Click here to see the view from Gerry's hotel window in Milwaukee, WI.

Message: 35356 Posted: Thu Sep 02 06:37:44 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & You can check in but you can never leave

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 2, 2004

39 years ago - The Beatles receive a gold record for the single, "Help!" (1965)

39 years ago - The Rolling Stones appear on the British pop TV show "Ready Steady Go!" with Mick Jagger and Andrew Loog Oldham performing a parody of Sonny & Cher's "I Got You Babe." (1965)

39 years ago - The Beatles release "Yesterday." (1965)

34 years ago - Genesis ran an ad in "Melody Maker" magazine, which was answered by Phil Collins, who eventually joined the group. (1970)

33 years ago - The Grateful Dead have finally tracked down and have had arrested the group's ex-manager, Lenny Hart. He is charged with having embezzled $70,000 from the group, leaving the Dead penniless. (1971)

33 years ago - The Grateful Dead's second live LP is given the unimaginative title "Grateful Dead", but it's not as if they don't care. Rolling Stone reports leader Jerry Garcia originally wanted the title "Starf__k." It's the bands first Top 25 album. (1971)

33 years ago - Rolling Stone reports Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Bill Wyman, Charlie Watts and the late Brian Jones' father have filed suit against former Rolling Stones managers Eric Easton and Andrew Loog Oldham. The suit charges the two deprived the band from royalties through a deal with the Stones' first label, Decca. (1971)

32 years ago - The Hollies' "Long Cool Woman (In A Black Dress)" peaks at #2 on the pop singles chart, while Jim Croce's "You Don't Mess Around With Jim" hits #8. (1972)

29 years ago - The summer comes to a less than peaceful close in Syracuse, New York at the Great American Music Fair. The show featuring Jefferson Starship, New Riders of the Purple Sage and the Doobie Brothers is marred when a crowd of 500 attempt to crash the gate, armed with rocks and bottles, in an effort to make the festival a free one. Police and state troopers arrive and when things were all over, 60 arrests were made. (1975)

26 years ago - George Harrison marries Olivia Trinidad Arias, a secretary at his Dark Horse record company. (1978)

26 years ago - Boston's second album, "Don't Look Back" enters the LP chart. (1978)

26 years ago - Cheap Trick's "Surrender" peaks at #62 on the pop singles chart while The Village People's "Macho Man" peaks at #25. (1978)

26 years ago - The Jackson 5 enter the soul chart again with "Blame It on the Boogie" which peaks at #3. (1978)

26 years ago - Teddy Pendergrass performs at a "For Women Only" gig at New York City's Avery Fisher Hall. Women arriving for the concert are given white chocolate lollipops in the shape of a Teddy Bear. (1978)

26 years ago - The "Animal House" soudtrack is released. (1978)

16 years ago - Amnesty International's "Human Rights Now" tour, starring Bruce Springsteen, Sting, Peter Gabriel and Tracy Chapman, begins in London's Wembley stadium. (1988)

15 years ago - Cars lead singer Ric Ocasek marries model Paulina Porizkova. (1989)

15 years ago - Jeff Healey's "Angel Eyes" peaks at #5 on the pop singles chart. (1989)

11 years ago - Pearl Jam performs a song from their upcoming "Vs." album, "Animal," at the MTV Video Music Awards. Following that they are joined onstage by Neil Young for a blistering version of "Rockin' In The Free World." (1993)

9 years ago - The Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame opens in Cleveland with a concert that features, among others, Bruce Springsteen and Chuck Berry. (1995)


Jeff Healey Band - Angel Eyes

Girl, you're looking fine tonight,
and every guy has got you in his sights
What you're doing with a clown like me,
Is surely one of life's little mysteries

chorus: So tonight I'll ask the star above
"How did I ever win your love?"
What did I do?
What did I say, to turn your angel eyes my way?

Well, I'm the guy who never learned to dance,
Never even got one second glance
Across a crowded room was close enoough,
I could look but never touch.

(repeat chorus)

Don't anyone wake me,
If it's just a dream
'cause she's the best thing,
That's ever happened to me

All you fellows, you can look all you like,
but this girl, you see, she's leavin' here
with me

There's just one more thing I have to know,
If this is love why does it scare me so?
It must be something only you can see,
'Cause I feel it when you look at me


No Nursing Home For Me

No nursing home for me. I am checking into the Holiday Inn!

With the average cost for a nursing home per day reaching $188.00, there is a better way when we get old & feeble. I have already checked on reservations at the Holiday Inn. For a combined long term stay discount and senior discount, it's $49.23 per night. That leaves $138.77 a day for:

1. Breakfast, lunch and dinner in any restaurant I want, or room service.

2. Laundry, gratuities and special TV movies.

Plus, they provide a swimming pool, a workout room, a lounge, washer, dryer, etc. Most have free toothpaste and razors, and all have free shampoo and soap. They treat you like a customer, not a patient. $5 worth of tips a day will have the entire staff scrambling to help you.

There is a city bus stop out front, and seniors ride free. The handicap bus will also pick you up (if you fake a decent limp).

To meet other nice people, call a church bus on Sundays.

For a change of scenery, take the airport shuttle bus and eat at one of the nice restaurants there. While you're at the airport, fly somewhere. Otherwise, the cash keeps building up.

It takes months to get into decent nursing homes. Holiday Inn will take your reservation today. And you are not stuck in one place forever, you can move from Inn to Inn, or even from city to city. Want to see Hawaii? They have a Holiday Inn there too.

TV broken? Light bulbs need changing? Need a mattress replaced? No problem. They fix everything, and apologize for the inconvenience.

The Inn has a night security person and daily room service. The maid checks to see if you are ok. If not, they will call the undertaker or an ambulance. If you fall and break a hip, Medicare will pay for the hip, and Holiday Inn will upgrade you to a suite for the rest of your life.

And no worries about visits from family. They will always be glad to find you, and probably check in for a few days mini-vacation. The grandkids can use the pool. What more can you ask for? So,
when I reach the golden age I'll face it with a grin. Just forward all my email to: me@Holiday.Inn


TGIAF everyone........... Not long now til the weekend.

Red Oak

Message: 35355 Posted: Thu Sep 02 05:44:38 2004 By: Moser
Subject: Wisconsinites, YOU'RE UP

Okay all you Wisconsinites, it's your turn up at the plate. We need a home run here. Photos, reviews, autograph reports, Gerry Said quotes, etc., etc. We're (or at least I'm) counting on you all.

Have fun. Soak it up. Safe travel.


Message: 35354 Posted: Wed Sep 01 23:48:03 2004 By: TommieGirl
Subject: Hi there

...Missed chat again - kids and the job hunt are taking up most of my time these days. I'll make it back soon... in the meantime, I'm just glad August is over!!

Nancy, I live about 80 miles from Mount Rainier. We've made several camping trips in the forest up there. It is incredibly beautiful, and yes, I can see it from my house. :) It's also an active volcano, which we try not to think about too much!

Hope all's well -


Message: 35353 Posted: Wed Sep 01 23:34:50 2004 By: TommieGirl
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom


I am so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine how you must be feeling right now.

You're in my thoughts.


Message: 35352 Posted: Wed Sep 01 20:37:00 2004 By: AmericanGirl
Subject: Re: Audio: America Bio on Super Groovy 70's

Here is a link to the America Bio-Feedback segment mp3 as aired recently on Super Groovy 70's (hosted by fellow America fan, Joe B.):

Message: 35351 Posted: Wed Sep 01 18:34:26 2004 By: Karen L
Subject: Re: Summerfest Encore (Shirley)

Hi Shirley - I'm sorry to hear you can't go. I wish I would have known you were trying to arrange to go! I think you and I later realized we almost met up at Fond du Lac, right? It isn't always easy to get away, is it? (Especially for those of us with kids!) Some of us that are going tomorrow night didn't know for sure for awhile, either. One (or more) of us will certainly post about it! I'll be meeting up with Linda, Gary & Jan, and Chuck! I think maybe some others here also mentioned hoping to be there, too. Looking forward to meeting you one of these days, Shirley!


Message: 35350 Posted: Wed Sep 01 18:30:16 2004 By: Sergio
Subject: Re: Good Old Days


Sounds like a fun list of 60's groups, I've heard of the Easybeats, and the Bee Gees of course, but the last few I din't recognize...We missed some of your local down under groups "up over" here.:o(

<<Remember the first time you saw an "R" rated movie?>>

Fun topic...The first movie I partially saw that dealt with an adult theme was totally by accident, it was "Never On Sunday" with Melina Mercouri in Greek and with subtitles. I was living in Rome, NY, and we had just arrived in the US from Cuba, my mom liked the theme song, which was immensely popular in 1961, so she innocently brought me to see it. Little did she know what the movie was about, and after a few scenes we walked out(It was about a fun loving Greek prostitute who didn't "work" on Sundays).LOL. The first adult themed flick that I intentionally attended, I think it was prior to ratings, it was the 1967, the arty Claude Lelouch French film "A Man and A Woman". By today's standards it was tame, no bad language, great music, just a racy breathy final love scene...It has to qualify as my first "adult" movie. LOL.

I liked that "Piston" broke joke. Thanks for sharing it,


Message: 35349 Posted: Wed Sep 01 17:28:07 2004 By: Linda
Subject: more begging

Could we please, please, please get All My Life tomorrow night???
I sure am looking forward to the concert ~ and to seeing my friends!

Message: 35348 Posted: Wed Sep 01 16:55:58 2004 By: NancyM
Subject: Begging Time

Gerry, Gerry, Gerry, Dewey, Dewey, Dewey, how about playing Till the Sun Comes Up Again and Hell's on Fire at the Birchmere? Please, please, please? See you then that Saturday!
P.S. Gerry, All My Life would not be so bad, either...

Message: 35347 Posted: Wed Sep 01 16:31:21 2004 By: Shirley
Subject: Summerfest Encore

Just wanted to wish everyone a wonderful time tomorrow night. I tried to get out of a previous commitment but somehow, kids always win. Wish I could be there with all of you. Please report.

Message: 35346 Posted: Wed Sep 01 13:23:00 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: Signs

I was in downtown Boston today and rode the subway (the Green Line). I smiled when I saw the "D-Riverside" train pass by.

-- Madolyn

Message: 35345 Posted: Wed Sep 01 13:20:28 2004 By: Madolyn
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom

Robyn, I am so sorry for your loss. May you find peace and strength in the comfort of your family and friends.

-- Madolyn

Message: 35344 Posted: Wed Sep 01 09:50:55 2004 By: red oak
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom

My condolences go out to you and your family during the passing of your Mother.


Message: 35343 Posted: Wed Sep 01 09:12:57 2004 By: Deb and Keith
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom

Please accept our deepest sympathy on the loss of your Mother. We will keep you and your family in our prayers.
Debbie and Keith

Message: 35342 Posted: Wed Sep 01 09:12:44 2004 By: Deb and Keith
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom

Please accept our deepest sympathy on the loss of your Mother. We will keep you and your family in our prayers.
Debbie and Keith

Message: 35341 Posted: Wed Sep 01 09:12:28 2004 By: Deb and Keith
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom

Please accept our deepest sympathy on the loss of your Mother. We will keep you and your family in our prayers.
Debbie and Keith

Message: 35340 Posted: Wed Sep 01 06:59:53 2004 By: red oak
Subject: B'days, History, Lyrics & Cat got your tongue

This Day in Rock & Roll History
Today is September 1, 2004

58 years ago - Barry Gibb (Bee Gees) was born. (1946)

48 years ago - Elvis Presley shares his success with his family by purchasing his mother a pink Cadillac. (1956)

39 years ago - James Brown appears on "Shindig!" performing "Papa's Got a Brand New Bag." Also on the show is Booker T. & the MG's. (1965)

37 years ago - Guitarist Boz Scaggs joins the San Francisco based Steve Miller Band. Scaggs stays with the group through two albums ("Children of the Future" and "Sailor") before heading out on a solo career in 1969. (1967)

32 years ago - The O'Jays receive a gold record for their first hit single, "Backstabbers" It makes it up to Number Three on the pop chart. (1972)

32 years ago - David Bowie releases "John, I'm only Dancing" in the U.K. However, due to the song's supposedly gay lyrics, it's not released in the U.S. until 1976 on the greatest hits LP "ChangesOneBowie." In 1979, a six minute dance version of the tune is released. (1972)

31 years ago - The Rolling Stones open their first European tour since 1971 at Vienna's Stadthalle, the first stop of the 20 city tour. The band wanted to play on the other side of the iron curtain--but were denied. (1973)

31 years ago - Bob Dylan's soundtrack to the film, "Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid" enters the LP charts. It includes "Knockin' On Heaven's Door." (1973)

31 years ago - Alice Cooper's "Billion Dollar Babies" peaks at #57 on the singles chart. (1973)

28 years ago - Ode Records president Lou Adler and employee Neil Silver are kidnapped at the former's house in Malibu. The two are released after paying out $25,000 in hundred dollar bills. A week later, a California couple is charged with the crime. A search for another accomplice continues. (1976)

27 years ago - Blondie signs its first major record company contract with Chrysalis. (1977)

27 years ago - Billy Idol's former band, Generation X, release their debut single, "Your Generation." Elton John reviews it for a British newspaper calling it "really dreadful garbage. The Ramones do this sort of thing so much better." (1977)

25 years ago - INXS make their live debut in Sydney, Australia. (1979)

25 years ago - U2 release their first record, an EP entitled, "U2-3" in their native Ireland. (1979)

24 years ago - Fleetwood Mac ends a nine-month tour with a performace at the Hollywood Bowl. Lindsay Buckingham announces from the stage, "This is our last show for a long time." (1980)

21 years ago - Paul Simonon and Joe Strummer of the Clash, fire guitarist Mick Jones, accusing him of "drifting apart from the original concept of the band." Jones goes on to form Big Audio Dynamite, and the Clash soon breaks up. (1983)

20 years ago - Tina Turner's "What's Love Got To Do With It" peaks at #1 on the pop chart. (1984)

18 years ago - Paul McCartney releases the "Press to Play" LP. (1986)

17 years ago - Mick Jagger's "Let's Work" single is released by Columbia. (1987)

15 years ago - A judge in Dublin, Ireland decides not to convict U2 bassist Adam Clayton of marijuana possession, even though he had admitted to the crime. Clayton agreed to contribute money to a women's center in Dublin. (1989)

6 years ago - David Bowie opens his on-line internet service provider business, Bowienet. The service offers basic internet services and exclusive Bowie news and releases. (1998)


The Bee Gees - Night Fever

Listen to the ground
There is movement all around
There is something goin' down
And I can feel it

On the waves of the air
There is dancin' out there
If it's somethin' we can share
We can steal it

And that sweet city woman
She moves through the light
Controlling my mind and my soul
When you reach out for me
Yeah, and the feelin' is bright

Then I get night fever, night fever
We know how to do it
Gimme that night fever, night fever
We know how to show it

Here I am
Prayin' for this moment to last
Livin' on the music so fine
Borne on the wind
Makin' it mine

Night fever, night fever
We know how to do it
Gimme that night fever, night fever
We know how to show it

In the heat of our love
Don't need no help for us to make it
Gimme just enough to take us to the mornin'
I got fire in my mind
I got higher in my walkin'
And I'm glowin' in the dark
I give you warnin'


Calling in sick to work makes me uncomfortable. No matter how legitimate my excuse, I always get the feeling that my boss thinks I'm lying. On one recent occasion, I had a valid reason but lied anyway, because the truth was just too darned humiliating. I simply mentioned that I had sustained a head injury, and I hoped I would feel up to coming in the next day. By then, I reasoned, I could think up a doozy to explain the bandage on the top of my head.

The accident occurred mainly because I had given in to my wife's wishes to adopt a cute little kitty Initially, the new acquisition was no problem.

Then one morning, I was taking my shower after breakfast when I heard my wife, Deb, call out to me from the kitchen. "Honey! The garbage disposal is dead again. Please come reset it."

"You know where the button is," I protested through the shower pitter-patter and steam. "Reset it yourself!"

"But I'm scared!" she persisted. "What if it starts going and sucks me in?" There was a meaningful pause and then, "C'mon, it'll only take you a second." So out I came, dripping wet and buck naked, hoping that my silent outraged nudity would make a statement about how I perceived her behavior as extremely cowardly. Sighing loudly, I squatted down and stuck my head under the sink to find the button. It is the last action I remember performing. It struck without warning, and without any respect to my circumstances.

No, it wasn't the hexed disposal, drawing me into its gnashing metal teeth. It was our new kitty, who discovered the fascinating dangling objects she spied hanging between my legs. She had been poised around the corner and stalked me as I reached under the sink And, at the precise moment when I was most vulnerable, she leapt at the toys I unwittingly offered and snagged them with her needle-like claws.

I lost all rational thought to control orderly bodily movements, blindly rising at a violent rate of speed, with the full weight of a kitten hanging from my masculine region. Wild animals are sometimes faced with a fight or flight syndrome. Men, in this predicament, choose only the "flight" option.

I know this from experience. I was fleeing straight up into the air when the sink and cabinet bluntly and forcefully impeded my ascent. The impact knocked me out cold.

When I awoke, my wife and the paramedics stood over me. Now there are not many things in this life worse than finding oneself lying on the kitchen floor buck naked in front of a group of "been-here, done-that" paramedics. Even worse, having been fully briefed by my wife, the paramedics were all snorting loudly as they tried to conduct their work, all the while trying to suppress their hysterical laughter.... and not succeeding.

Somehow I lived through it all.

A few days later I finally made it back in to the office, where colleagues tried to coax an explanation out of me about my head injury. I kept silent, claiming it was too painful to talk about. Which it was. "What's the matter?" They all asked, "Cat got your tongue?"

If they only knew...


Happy Hump Day all.........

Red Oak

Message: 35339 Posted: Wed Sep 01 05:20:10 2004 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom

I know I don't post that often, but just wanted to say I'm sorry about the loss of your Mother.


Message: 35338 Posted: Wed Sep 01 05:08:34 2004 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom

Robyn, Very sorry about your mom.
Our thoughts and prayers are with you.
Best Regards, Howie L

Message: 35337 Posted: Wed Sep 01 04:17:31 2004 By: Erin
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. I'm so sorry for your loss...

Message: 35336 Posted: Wed Sep 01 00:47:55 2004 By: alessandra
Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC-- My mom

My sincerest sympathies for your loss. My thoughts are with you. Ale

Message: 35335 Posted: Wed Sep 01 00:12:11 2004 By: "Bluey"
Subject: Good Old Days

Hey Sergio, yeah mate I smile when I think about the 60s. Even down here we just had a great bunch of bands, The Easybeats, Bee Gees, Billy Thorpe and The Aztecs, The Throb, Normie Rowe, The Loved Ones etc. I have 3 "60s Down-Under" CDs and it was just a fun time. Remember the first time you saw an "R" rated movie? My first was called "Girl On A Motorbike" and the reason for "R" rating, someone said this line "Now We Are All Up Sh*t Creek" - that was it! Of course the theatre was packed, everybody waiting to see and hear something exotic. Progress.

Quick joke" An old drunk staggers up to a young bloke whose head's under the open bonnet of his car. 'What's wrong?' asks the drunk. 'Piston broke' replies the young bloke. The drunk replies 'Me too'

Regards Bluey

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