Chat Folder Archive

Archives: October 1999

Message: 8779 Posted: Sun Oct 31 18:35:49 1999 By: TZ MAC
Subject: Re: Halloween Songs - We Have A Winner

Just to clarify one of the song titles on Mike's list.

Steve's post from Mike indicated that #33 was The Outer Limits Theme. It is actually the Dark Shadows Theme as was guessed earlier.

Happy Halloween to everyone.


Message: 8778 Posted: Sun Oct 31 17:08:53 1999 By: Beech
Subject: Re: Copyright Infringement, Deja Vu

Sorry, OMT and Eddy but I have to respectfully disagree with you on some points. If you write a song and copyright it (nowadays THAT is even a mote point as long as it resides in some proverbiale dated form) it is YOUR intellectual property. THEN if you happen to hear it on the radio by someone else who is making SCADS and SCADS of MONEY, YIKES. As a song writer one SOMETIMES has to scratch to make that FIRST hit (then the career/reputation will hopefully take off). When someone claims "inspiration" then at least make it THEIRS and not a carbon of the original. Changing the lyrics alone is NOT justification for saying a song is now MINE......THEN if the plagerizer (however unintentional) is FAMOUS, double YIKES! You may not agree with the governmental copyright system, but it is there to "protect" us (collectively speaking). I agree with Howard about that particular case (wherein the manager had his hand in the til) but to those who REALLY NEED the law, it's a goood thhhhhiiiing! (C=

As for the fact that there are only 12 notes in a scale and having "most of the great works already 'there', " I disagree (again respectfully) totally, but that is a subjective point that could be argued from here to eternity...I think you're right that it's a gift from God/Spirit/Above, though!!!!

Anyway, just had to comment on that.....(C=

Message: 8777 Posted: Sun Oct 31 12:29:40 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Thank goodness for plagiarism!

While we're at it, how about the similarity between the Beatles THINGS WE SAID TODAY, and America's NEVER BE LONELY? While I am definitely not calling this palgiarism, they seem similar enough to my untrained ears. As my friend once put it, "those chords have already been invented!"


Message: 8776 Posted: Sun Oct 31 12:05:28 1999 By: John Corbett
Subject: Thank goodness for plagiarism!

If George Harrison hadn't been inspired to write "My Sweet Lord", from whatever the source, then Gerry might not have had the inspiration to record "Sister Golden Hair" the way he did. Gerry always said that song was his inspiration for the classic into to SGH.


Message: 8775 Posted: Sun Oct 31 03:13:47 1999 By: OldManToke
Subject: Re: Copyright Infringement, Deja Vu

Tom T, I just watched Ghostbusters again yesterday with my girlfriend and her many one-liners in that flick! Good memory, Howard, TZ, and EDDY!!! Geez, there are only so many letters in the alphabet, words in the dictionary, and only twelve distinct notes in any octave of our scale system. Sure, some combinations are gonna seem similar. Who's to say who owns a song, anyway? Most great works are "there" already, until someone takes it out of the "sky" and lays it down...I believe all good songs and works of art are from God and that the gifted ones grab onto the melody, picture, or invention, and are only vessels for the artform. That "You sue me and I'll sue you" stuff is so silly! Almost seems like the next step before putting a meter on the air we breathe. If anything, the similarity should be a compliment, not seen as an infringement...lots of minds may have subliminal favorites, the same melodic preferences as the so-called "writer" of the oringinal song. Happy Gobblin' to everyone!

Message: 8774 Posted: Sat Oct 30 21:56:45 1999 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Copyright Infringement, Deja Vu

Yes, whats funny about this also is that Harrison's former manager, Allen Klein, had in 1978 (after the trial) purchased the rights to "he's so fine" and was therefore the direct beneficiary of George's grief. The court took note of this, considering it interference by Klein, and limited the damages to what he had payed for the song-$587,000, which Harrison paid as ordered 1981.
Probably the only good thing to come out of the whole ordeal for George was that it gave him the inspiration to compose "This Song" a biting satire of the whole sordid affair, which was a big hit record for him.

Message: 8773 Posted: Sat Oct 30 20:52:13 1999 By: TZ MAC
Subject: Re: Copyright Infringement, Deja Vu

I don't remember the outcome of it, or if there were any.>

As I remember, George Harrison offered to settle out of court. However the He's So Fine (Chiffons) writer(s) refused and took it on to court. The court ruled in favor of the Chiffons, but the awarded settlement was less than what George had offered before to settle out of court.


Message: 8772 Posted: Sat Oct 30 19:56:53 1999 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Copyright Infringement, Deja Vu

Just like in the 1970's....
I think George Harrison was brought to court...
Listen to these 2 songs, which are very much alike...
My Sweet Lord vs. He's So Fine...
I don't remember the outcome of it, or if there were any.

How about that for memory>>>>>>>>>hl

Message: 8771 Posted: Sat Oct 30 17:58:28 1999 By: Tom T.
Subject: Copywrite Infringement/ Hi Bones

The Song that was, shall I say, the UN-original is Number 37- "Ghostbusters". Ray Parker Jr. essentially stole "I Want A New Drug" From Huey Lewis and The News. The funny thing about it is that I realized that the two songs were too much alike from the moment I heard "Ghostbusters". I really can't stand the song- All I remember was being barraged by the stupid Video with various celebrities making Cameos and blurting out..."Ghostbusters"! It really makes me shudder.Remember? Melissa Gilbert, Carly Simon, Oh Who Cares....The power of Television is amazing, isn't it? Hi Bones- I don't want to curse myself by divulging the station....yet! But as soon as the "Wheel Are Turning" I'll be sure to pass it on!!! I will say this much, it IS a popular, adult-contemporary station. Happy Halloween to all....BooBye....Teetee

Message: 8770 Posted: Sat Oct 30 12:30:27 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: missing in action

Hi Joe. Good to hear from you again and even better to hear that you're employed. Having gone through a layoff I know how tough that can be. Have fun in Arizona and tell the guys hi.

Message: 8769 Posted: Sat Oct 30 12:15:14 1999 By: Joe B
Subject: missing in action

Hey You People,

Just caught up on a few months worth of postings. Lots of interesting insights, info, & comments; hope everybody is doing well. I went from sitting on my fat *#$ to working 12-18 hours a day at 4 different jobs for about 3 months straight. Whew! Finally a week off to relax with a short road trip, ending up in Chandler, AZ for the Saturday night concert. Also driving through Albuquerque. (It 'will be there in the morning' if my calculations are correct) CAN'T WAIT!!! Take care and Happy Halloweenie.

Joe B

P.S. Steve does totally rule!
P.S.S. The acoustic "Kiss Of Life" is amazing!!

Message: 8768 Posted: Sat Oct 30 11:57:51 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: VGG

Cathy, the only chords that have been posted so far from Van Go Gan are the chords to "I Need You". John Lussier spent some time last week figuring out the chords to "Goodbye Highway" and he has faxed them to me but I haven't had time to put them on the web site yet. I hope to get to it next week but it does take time. Besides the time involved with formatting the chords and putting them on the web site, I play the guitar with them to make sure that they're right. John figured them out on the piano and wrote down the chord names as best he could. There are some really wild chords so it will probably take me some time to figure out how to play them on the guitar. If anyone else can figure out other VGG songs, I'll be happy to post them. Thanks --Steve

Message: 8767 Posted: Sat Oct 30 09:49:10 1999 By: Cathy
Subject: Re: VGG

Has anyone figured out/posted the chords for the acoustic version of Kiss of Life or any other VGG songs????

Message: 8766 Posted: Fri Oct 29 22:24:09 1999 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Van GO Gan

I had a similar problem, Robyn. I entered my cc info, the order went through, then I got an email a few days ago, saying they didn't receive my cc numbers. But that's okay. I'm going to try again this week. It sounds absolutely awesome, and I can't wait to hear the bonus tracks!! Thank you Gerry, for re-releasing it!!!
Erin :o)

Message: 8765 Posted: Fri Oct 29 18:44:31 1999 By: Robyn
Subject: Van GO Gan

After lurking and seeing all of you talk about how wonderful Van Go Gan is, I began to wonder where MY copy had gotten to. I thought maybe our Shipping and reciving people had it mixed in with the boxes upon boxes of books that arrive monthly (we ARE the largest library west of the Mississippi!) I went down to Shipping. No package for me. Hmmm. Called Thoughtscape. It appears they never received my order ( due to the fact that I cut up my credit cards years ago, I did my order the Money Order route) I am truly bummed! The nice folks at Thoughtscape are still checking, but it appears I may have to start over with the process. I hope they don't sell out before I get my copy!!!!!

Message: 8764 Posted: Fri Oct 29 16:27:39 1999 By: KevinS.
Subject: Human Nature Records.

I was being facitious when I praised Human Nature for signing Gerry Beckley. But I do think it would be cool if Gerry Beckley mastered yet another part of the music business. Musician, songwriter, producer and now record label owner. Wouldn't it be great if Human Nature Records became something bigger than just a vehicle for Van Go Gan?


Message: 8763 Posted: Fri Oct 29 14:52:26 1999 By: TZ MAC
Subject: Re: Halloween Songs - We Have A Winner


You are correct, it is the Carpenters version. Did you know they utilized 160 people on this recording, including Peter Knight and garnered a Grammy nomination for it in 1978?


Message: 8762 Posted: Fri Oct 29 14:44:45 1999 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Halloween Songs - We Have A Winner

It must be the version by the Carpenters then. I remember wondering why they ever covered that song, it just didn't fit them.

Message: 8761 Posted: Fri Oct 29 14:38:53 1999 By: TZ MAC
Subject: Re: Halloween Songs - We Have A Winner

Well, kinda/sorta. Klaatu (rumored to have been the reformed Beatles) definitely did the original version. However, their version is not the version included here.

The artist version included here is a Top 40 version and most certainly is a different sound for this act. I have gone back to the credits and found nothing to indicate that any member of Klaatu nor any part of their version was incorporated into this Top 40 version.

So, close but keep guessing.


Message: 8760 Posted: Fri Oct 29 14:10:38 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: VGG

Howie, the Japanese version did have lyrics and photos which the domestic version is missing. It had both English and Japanese versions of the lyrics. Of course, you can always go to the Van Go Gan web page to read the lyrics (English version - LOL) and see the photos.

Message: 8759 Posted: Fri Oct 29 12:34:56 1999 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: VGG

hey with the japanese version, didn't it come with a booklet with lyrics and pictures (matt, carl wilson, dewey)??? I would've love to have that. hl

Message: 8758 Posted: Fri Oct 29 11:31:20 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Van Go Gan.

Mark, I believe you're right about Human Nature Records being Gerry's record company. After all, his home studio is Human Nature studios and America's latest CD was also Human Nature. It's only human nature to believe that it's his record company. If you read the printing at the bottom of the new VGG CD, you'll notice that it was manufactured by Imperial Tape Company, Inc., in California. I presume that Gerry had them do the manufacturing and then he shipped the CD's to Thoughtscape Sounds for distribution until he can set up his own fulfillment.

By the way, it's very difficult to see what people are thinking when they post something on this chat folder, but I thought that Kevin had his tongue firmly in cheek when he said that he hoped Gerry and Human Nature Records will have a long relationship. I suspect that he already knew it was Gerry's company.

Message: 8757 Posted: Fri Oct 29 10:41:17 1999 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Van Go Gan.

I think Human Nature records is Gerry's own label that he started just to release VGG. Kind of like Dan's Seven Mile records which released the Peace CDs and Bodden Town. Maybe Human Nature Records will be how future America releases are done.

Message: 8756 Posted: Fri Oct 29 10:38:09 1999 By: Mark
Subject: Halloween Songs - Trivia Question

Out of the 39 Halloween songs Steve listed in his post, which song was found to have infringed on the copyright of another hit song (costing the writer millions) and what was the song that it had infringed on?

Message: 8755 Posted: Fri Oct 29 09:39:47 1999 By: KevinS.
Subject: Van Go Gan.

I just want to thank Human Nature Records for releasing Gerry Beckley's solo ablum Van Go Gan. I hope this is the beginning of a long and fruitful relationship between Gerry and Human Nature Records. (I didn't think it was possible to make Kiss Of Life any better, but I think the acoustic version is perfect.)


Message: 8754 Posted: Fri Oct 29 08:05:34 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Halloween Songs - We Have A Winner

Last night Mike Robinson sent me a mail message with his guesses for the Halloween Songs. He guessed all 39 of the songs correctly (even #17). Congratulations Mike! Here's his list:

1. Witch Queen of New Orleans - Redbone
2. You Can Do Magic - America
3. Frankenstein - Edgar Winter Group
4. Black Magic Woman - Santana
5. Sympathy for the Devil - Rolling Stones
6. Witchy Woman - Eagles
7. Gypsy Woman - Brian Hyland
8. Helter Skelter - Beatles
9. Spooky - Classics IV
10. Magic Carpet Ride - Steppenwolf
11. Maniac - Michael Sembello
12. Evil Woman - Electric Light Orchestra
13. Angie Baby - Helen Reddy
14. Who Can it be Now - Men at Work
15. Bad Moon Rising - Creedence Clearwater Revival
16. Magic - Olivia Newton-John
17. Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft - Klaatu
18. Werewolves of London - Warren Zevon
19. Thunder & Lightning - Chi Coltrane
20. Devil Went Down to Georgia - Charlie Daniels Band
21. Come Sail Away - Styx
22. Devil Woman - Cliff Richard
23. It's Magic - Pilot
24. Man Eater - Hall and Oates
25. Mama Told Me Not to Come - 3 Dog Night
26. Strange Magic - ELO
27. Maxwell's Silver Hammer - Beatles
28. Spiders and Snakes - Jim Stafford
29. These Dreams - Heart
30. Addams Family Theme
31. Munsters Theme
32. Twilight Zone Theme
33. Outer Limits Theme
34. Dark Lady - Cher
35. Monster Mash - Bobby "Boris" Pickett
36. The Purple People Eater - Sheb Wooley
37. Ghostbusters - Ray Parker Jr.
38. Witch Doctor - David Seville
39. Thriller - Michael Jackson

Message: 8753 Posted: Fri Oct 29 07:27:36 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: VGG

The outtake w/Phil Hartman really cracked me up!

If anyone would like to transcribe "Brothers and Sisters..." for me, I'd be happy to post it in the Lyrics section of the web site (including the outtake). I was going to do it myself but ran out of time. You can e-mail it to me and I'll get it out right away. Thanks.

Message: 8752 Posted: Fri Oct 29 07:21:03 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: concert info

Dan, I'm afraid I don't know whether or not America played in Rapid City in 1977 or 1978. But you have posted the question in the best possible place to find an answer. If anyone here knows, I'm sure they'll pass it along.

Message: 8751 Posted: Thu Oct 28 23:34:35 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: VGG

Although I can't speak for Mr. GERRY BECKLEY, but I would bet that he would be very appreciative of anyone taking the disk to a radio station & requesting airplay. And while you are there, while the DJ is happily listening to his solo debut, you may slip the HUMAN NATURE disk in also, just a thought

Message: 8750 Posted: Thu Oct 28 22:01:29 1999 By: rick
Subject: millenium concert

For any aussie fans going to the AMERICA new years eve concert the running order is:richard clapton 7.30pm, followed by billy thorpe and then AMERICA from 10.30pm to 11.45pm.Hope to see you all there.

Message: 8749 Posted: Thu Oct 28 21:43:26 1999 By: EDDY
Subject: VGG

Just got off of work, Surprise!!! Got my copy of VGG!!!! The bonus tracks are AWESOME! (I did the same thing as you, Steve)
The outtake w/Phil Hartman really cracked me up!
THANX Gerry for re-releasing this fine album, & THANX Scott for getting it to me so quickly!!!

Message: 8748 Posted: Thu Oct 28 21:29:49 1999 By: jeff brink
Subject: VGG

The bonus tracks are pretty neat...I especially like the acoustic version of "Kiss Of Life". Would there be a problem if I took the CD around to a couple of radio stations and asked them to play "Goodbye Highway" Does anyone think Mr. Beckley would mind?

Message: 8747 Posted: Thu Oct 28 21:12:16 1999 By: Dan
Subject: concert info

Steve, could you please find out what year America played a show in Rapid City South Dakota. It was either 1977 or 1978 and i was there. I can't remember which it was or even if they were a duo yet. You know the haze days of the 70's. Anyway thanks for the help if you can't do it no one can. Dan

Message: 8746 Posted: Thu Oct 28 20:54:42 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Halloween songs

"Purple People Eater" was by Sheb Wooley...1958 the year, I believe. Gee I love trivia!

Right again, Jim. As a matter of fact, in June of 1958 it hit #1 on the charts.

Message: 8745 Posted: Thu Oct 28 20:52:28 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Halloween Songs Tabulation

Exactly right, Jim. Now all that's left to guess is #17.

Message: 8744 Posted: Thu Oct 28 20:50:30 1999 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: Re: Halloween songs

"Purple People Eater" was by Sheb Wooley...1958 the year, I believe. Gee I love trivia!

Jim...Erie, Pa

Message: 8743 Posted: Thu Oct 28 20:49:26 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Domestic Van Go Gan

When I got home from work this evening there was a little package waiting for me from Thoughtscape Sounds. I quickly opened it and threw it in the CD player and went straight to track 15. It was obvious that it was a song being played backwards but what was more amazing was how much it sounds like "Now Sue" and how close the actual words are to the words you hear as it was playing backwards.

Next it was on to track 16 which was a vocals-only track from "Now Sue". As I was listening to it I was thinking, "Gee, I just heard some words just like that." Then I got hit with the most beautiful, perfect harmony that I've ever heard. It's hard to describe it, you just have to hear it for yourself (I'll be putting out soundclips soon, possibly even tonight).

Track 17 is an aoustic version of "Kiss of Life" and it's exquisitely done. I'm impressed with how Gerry was able to envision the final version with his simple but powerful accompaniment.

The final track, #18, is the voice of Phil Hartman portraying a televangelist (from "Playing God"). I've always wanted to know exactly what he was saying and it's much easier to understand without the singing and instrumentation. Plus, there's an added surprise at the end that wasn't included in "Playing God."

Message: 8742 Posted: Thu Oct 28 20:48:24 1999 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Halloween songs/ HEY Dan..

Tom, What radio station is it in Springfield Mass? Happy Halloween to everyone.
Still hoping for a live CD from this tour

Message: 8741 Posted: Thu Oct 28 20:45:22 1999 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: Re: Halloween Songs Tabulation

"Maniac" Michael Sembello...former guitarist for Stevie Wonder and Jeffrey Osborne

Jim...Erie, Pa

Message: 8740 Posted: Thu Oct 28 20:38:12 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Halloween Songs Tabulation

Wow! You guys are quick. I went through all of the posts with the Halloween Song guesses and you've nailed all of the songs but one and all of the artists but two. We still need the artist for song #11 (Maniac) and we need the title and artist for #17. I'll give you some clues as we get closer to Halloween but for now I'll let you think about it a little longer. --Steve

Message: 8739 Posted: Thu Oct 28 20:15:08 1999 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: Re: Halloween Songs

The Helen Reddy song in question is "Angie Baby"

Jim...Erie, PA

Message: 8738 Posted: Thu Oct 28 20:10:50 1999 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Halloween Songs

11. Maniac / Flashdance soundtrack (remember Jennifer Beals???)
13. Helen Reddy song, stumped on that one
17. Stumped on that one too. sounds like 80's metal group
34. Dark Lady / Cher
36. Purple People Eater/ Sheb Wooley
39. Thriller / Michael Jackson

Thanks, that was great. Howie

Message: 8737 Posted: Thu Oct 28 18:21:50 1999 By: Tom T.
Subject: Re: Halloween songs/ HEY Dan..

Let me help....# 34 is "Dark Lady", isn't it?(By Cher). Dan did all the work, I just wanted to help! Howdy Folks! Hope all is well! Hey Beech- in response to your acknowledgement (Bye the way, Thanks!!!) I am currently leaning more towards Radio/ Disc Jockey /Production; however, my instuctors are really pushing me to seriously consider On-Camera/ Broadcast News/ Weather Reporting. There IS more Money in T.V., but if I was a D.J. I would be close to what I love most....MUSIC! So I guess we'll see what develops. There is a radio station in Springfield, Massachusettes that is looking for weekend on-air talent. We'll see...After all, I'll have to do some interning somewhere before I can truly get my feet wet. Who Knows, this school HAS been a great inspiration! I'll keep you posted!!! Imagine the first time I get to play an AMERICA tune over the air waves!!! Wow, that'll be so cool!! Have a great weekend!!! See Ya...TeeTee

Message: 8736 Posted: Thu Oct 28 17:20:27 1999 By: TZ MAC
Subject: Re: Halloween songs

Very good indeed, Dan.

Think #17 may be the stumper?


Message: 8735 Posted: Thu Oct 28 16:02:05 1999 By: Tres'
Subject: O-M-G!!!!! VGG!

OMG!!! Got my VGG and am SOOOOO loving it as I write. Cannot believe how wonderful it is! THANK YOU GERRY for making yet another day bright!!! Thanks to Thoughtscape too! "Nuff said"...hope everyone enjoys it as much I!!!!! Off to listen over and over and over and over and over again!

Message: 8734 Posted: Thu Oct 28 14:11:12 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re: You Can Do Magic

Yes Pete..the Yankees worked their magic again..back to back...Now Robyn, let's just hope the Dodgers were taking notes on how it's done!

Message: 8733 Posted: Thu Oct 28 13:44:38 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Is it just me ...

The local FM station that I listen to always plays America and has for as long as I can remember. They only play the hits (basically anything on the History CD), but it's nice to hear those songs frequently as I'm driving around listening to my radio.

On a side note, I was listening to that station Monday morning when I heard a girl named Natalie win 5th row tickets to the Moody Blues concert in Salt Lake City this Saturday. Her voice sounded familiar to me and when they announced that she was a student at the University of Utah who was from Kansas City, I was sure that it was Natalie Tucker who attended my Fan's Barbecue the day that America played in Orem. I sent Natalie a mail message and she confirmed that it was her. She was very excited to win the tickets and is looking forward to the concert. I also like the Moody Blues but I'm already booked for Saturday night. Too bad, maybe I could have talked her into taking me with her.

Message: 8732 Posted: Thu Oct 28 13:38:05 1999 By: Mark
Subject: Is it just me ...

Or are radio stations starting to play more America tunes? The local Classic Rock station used to never play America, but last week I heard them play HWNN and SGH. I also have recently heard America on the Oldies, Classic Hits, and AC stations. Hopefully this is the begining of a trend and not just a temporary bump.

Message: 8731 Posted: Thu Oct 28 13:36:59 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Halloween songs

Very good Dan! All of the songs and artists that you guessed were right with one exception. The title for #34 is wrong but you did get the artist right.

Message: 8730 Posted: Thu Oct 28 11:39:05 1999 By: Steve Nelson
Subject: Christmas

Coming home from watching the ball game with some friends last evening our local station played Tin Man. After the song the DJ commented in a friendly manner that the song reminded him or made him feel like Christmas shopping. I dunno, I thought it was an interesting statement. He did say it in a positive manner. I was also impressed because it was on a station that has a harder edge to it's programing. Oh well.....just passing the time until the mail comes today.....

Message: 8729 Posted: Thu Oct 28 11:14:04 1999 By: Dan
Subject: Halloween songs

1. Witch Queen of New Orleans Redbone
2. You Can Do Magic America
3. Frankenstein Edgar Winter Group
4. Black Magic Woman Santana
5. Sympathy for the Devil Rolling Stones
6. Witchy Woman Eagles
7. Gypsy Woman Brian Hyland
8. Helter Skelter Beatles
9. Spooky Classics IV
10. Magic Carpet Ride Steppenwolf
11. Maniac ??????
12. Evil Woman Electric Light Orchestra
13. ???????? Helen Reddy
14. Who Can it be Now Men at Work
15. Bad Moon Rising Creedence Clearwater Revival
16. Magic ? Olivla Newton John
17. ???????????????????
18. Werewolves of London Warren Zevon
19. Thunder and Lighting Chi Coltrane ?
20. Devil Went down to Georgia Charlie Daniels Band
21. Come Sail Away Styx
22. Devil Woman Cliff Richards
23. Magic Pilot
24. Maneater Hall and Oates
25. Mama Told Me (Not to Come) Three Dog Night
26. Strange Magic Electric Light Orchestra
27. Maxwell's Silver Hammer Beatles
28. Spiders and Snakes Jim Stafford
29. These Dreams Heart
30. Addams Family Theme
31. Munsters Theme
32. Twighlight Zone Theme
33. Dark Shadows Theme
34. Black Magic ? Cher
35. Monster Mash Bobby (Boris) Pickett
36. Purple People Eater ? ????????????
37. Ghost Busters Ray Parker Jr.
38. Witch Doctor Dave Seville and the Chipmunks
39. ????????????????????????

Thanks. Had a lot of fun racking my brain for these. By the way I played fair and just used my memory. I did not look up any. Pretty good huh? Dan

Message: 8728 Posted: Thu Oct 28 09:19:43 1999 By: Pete
Subject: You can do magic

The Yankees did it again, NUMBER 1

Message: 8727 Posted: Thu Oct 28 08:10:07 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Halloween Fun

I have a fun little exercise for all of you that might help get you in the mood for Halloween. It will also give those of us who are waiting for Van Go Gan to arrive, something to do besides twiddle our thumbs. Our good friend, Tim, had a little too much time on his hands last year and he put together a Halloween music collage. It is snippets of pop songs from the 60's, 70's and 80's (with a few TV theme songs). The songs all have a Halloweenish "things that go bump in the night," mystic, magical, ghoulish, neurotic kind of themes (yes, there is an America song).

There are 39 brief song segments in the collage that runs 4 minutes 18 seconds. There are 4 TV theme songs, 3 well known album tracks and the rest are all Top 40 hits from the 60's, 70's and 80's (OK 2 are from the late 50's).

Here's a link to the Halloween Fun page. See if you can be the first to guess all 39 songs and their artists (there's no need to guess the artists of the TV theme show snippets). If you can only guess some of them, go ahead and post the ones you know right here to help everyone else along. Please put Halloween Song Guesses in the subject line if you're posting your guesses so that everyone will know what they're about to read. Some people might want to avoid reading other people's guesses until they've had a chance to guess on their own.

Thanks, Tim, for sharing this with us. Ghoul luck everyone!

Message: 8726 Posted: Thu Oct 28 04:07:25 1999 By: Virginia
Subject: VGG

I got mine today, and I have to tell you, it was well worth the wait! For those of you who were lucky enough to have gotten the original VGG, the bonus tracks on this one are going to make you want to buy the new and improved version. When Matt explained how "Now Sue" came about, I didn't quite understand what he was talking about. Now it makes perfect sense. I LOVE the cut with "Till the Sun Comes Up Again" played backward followed by Gerry singing "Now Sue" a cappella. Now I understand how the lyrics came about. I had on earphones and Gerry's voice was so clear it felt like he could have been in the room with me. The acoustic "Kiss of Life" is a wonderful, sort of pared down version of my favorite song on the CD. The B/L/W harmony is just beautiful. And hearing Phil Hartman's voice so clearly as the televangelist makes me really miss this man's comic genius. The added bit at the end is hilarious.
I hope everyone gets their copies on Thursday or Friday. I'll be interested in hearing all the comments.
A HUGE thank you to Gerry for making VGG available again for those of us who missed the original release.

Message: 8725 Posted: Thu Oct 28 00:49:37 1999 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Van Go Gan

I don't know, Steve. Does the post office know where Utah is? LOL
Shari <><

Message: 8724 Posted: Wed Oct 27 21:55:07 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Van Go Gan & photos

I hope mine comes tomorrow, too, Eddy. I thought for sure it would be here when I got home from work today.

Message: 8723 Posted: Wed Oct 27 21:40:37 1999 By: EDDY
Subject: Van Go Gan & photos

WHERES MINE??!!!!!!!!!!(Tomorrow, I hope!)
Nice photos, Janice!!

Message: 8722 Posted: Wed Oct 27 18:22:17 1999 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Van Go Gan

Just walked in the door and IT'S HERE!!!
Putting it on the player right now!!!
Shari <><

Message: 8721 Posted: Wed Oct 27 15:56:15 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re: Van Go Gan

Can't wait to get mine!! Called Thoughtscape and they said "by Friday". :)

Message: 8720 Posted: Wed Oct 27 14:51:28 1999 By: aria
Subject: Bonus Tracks

Sorry, I was mistaken. Instead of Harmony of "Kiss Of Life" it is an Acappella version of "Now Sue". The others were correct. By the way, this was the first time I have heard the CD and I Love it! Thanks Gerry for the domestic release.

Message: 8719 Posted: Wed Oct 27 14:10:13 1999 By: Janice
Subject: Warning..Warning..Pictures..Warning..Un-Related Material

Lol..Just in case you wanted to scoll past this post..been experimenting with my new IS baseball season..(Go Yankees!) are 3 pics..two with Mom and Ronnie on the night of his last game of the season, and one of Ronnie and Friend..(she is the only girl on the team and Ronnie is less than thrilled with the attention he regularly gets from her in the dugout. I don't know how to do this but the web sites are:

If you can't get them, oh well. Now, where were we???

Message: 8718 Posted: Wed Oct 27 13:40:22 1999 By: aria
Subject: Van Go Gan

It's here! I just received my Van Go Gan CD in the mail and am listening to it right now. Steve was right (as usual). The bonus tracks are exactly as he said.

1) Acoustic version of "Kiss of Life"
2) Phil Hartman's text from "Playing God" ("Brothers and sisters...")
3) Original backwards version of "Till The Sun Comes Up Again" - this is how "Now Sue" was born
4) Harmony only of "Kiss of Life"

Just thought I would share my excitement as I listen to another masterpiece. I hope everyone has a great day.

Message: 8717 Posted: Wed Oct 27 13:15:56 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Thought for a Wednesday Morning

Thanks for sharing that with us John. I'd say you are doing something right! Cute kids, too.

P.S. It's been years since I read the "Hobbit" and the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy. I'll have to see if I can find some time to read them again. I remember that I really enjoyed them.

Message: 8716 Posted: Wed Oct 27 12:45:04 1999 By: John Lussier
Subject: Thought for a Wednesday Morning

I am reading "The Hobbit" to our 5 and 6 year old. Last night as we finished one chapter our youngest asked what the next chapter was called. I said, 'A Warm Welcome'. He, without hesitation, says,"Ladies and Gentlemen, please give a warm welcome for America." He then has a good little chuckle. Very cute. I must be doing something right.

Message: 8715 Posted: Wed Oct 27 09:35:35 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: just stop by to say hey

Hey You Gene when are you coming home ?

Message: 8714 Posted: Wed Oct 27 00:39:21 1999 By: Gene Murrell
Subject: just stop by to say hey

It's been A while since I've been here so I thought I would stop by and say hello to everyone out there.

Hope you all are having a great autumn

Message: 8713 Posted: Tue Oct 26 17:09:56 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: What are these songs

A sincere thanks to all that responded to my question, so far!!!!

Message: 8712 Posted: Tue Oct 26 16:14:48 1999 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: What are these songs

America had a repetoire of certain songs, which you have discovered,
when they first started out. They were also known to peform songs before they came out on albums. They were doing such songs like
Don't Cross The River, Submarine Ladies, etc.(pre hat trick and holiday). I know "Rain Song" was written by Dewey
and there's a bunch of others too. I would love to find out who wrote
certain ones, like "Look Up, Look Down" and others too.
It was basically 3 guys and 3 guitars, and that was....America!

Message: 8711 Posted: Tue Oct 26 09:22:48 1999 By: Beech

...."coming into Los Angeleeeeees....." (that's my fav)

Message: 8710 Posted: Tue Oct 26 09:21:03 1999 By: Beech
Subject: Re: America mentioned in Entertainment Weekly

>In one week I'll be graduating from Broadcasting school. I sure have >a lot of work ahead of me. At least I am working on a new career!

Congratulations, Tom!!! Which foray into broadcasting will you be taking? In front of or behind the lens? Either way, good luck!

Message: 8709 Posted: Tue Oct 26 00:09:28 1999 By: Tom T.
Subject: America mentioned in Entertainment Weekly

Hello Friends! Hope all is well. Just a quick mention....In the Video review section of the latest "Entertainment Weekly" in a review of the Kate Winslet film "Hideous Kinky" the stated something along the lines of..."the only redeeming thing in the film is hearing "A Horse With No Name" by America on the soundtrack. Not bad for a magazine that wouldn't even mention "Human Nature". Oh bye the way, I've never seen the film (nor do I have any desire to) but the title has little to do with the plot. In other words...No, it's not an "adult-type" of film. Things are still plugging along for me. In one week I'll be graduating from Broadcasting school. I sure have a lot of work ahead of me. At least I am working on a new career! Hello to one and all!! See Ya...TeeTee

Message: 8708 Posted: Tue Oct 26 00:04:14 1999 By: Erin

Heard is a really cool album...especially Look Up, Look Down...
Erin :o)

Message: 8707 Posted: Mon Oct 25 22:57:40 1999 By: ANDY

Steve, as always, you are a webmaster God !!!!!!!!!
Thanks a zillion!!

Message: 8706 Posted: Mon Oct 25 22:42:29 1999 By: AmericaSL

Andy, if you go to the Albums page on the America Fans website, you'll see a home-rolled (bootleg) album called Heard. It has been in circulation since 1997 and may still be available from John Corbett. There are sound clips from ALL of the songs that you are wondering about along with a brief description of them. Happy reading and listening! --Steve

Message: 8705 Posted: Mon Oct 25 22:15:14 1999 By: ANDY

I was just in the archives looking at a sample of America's playlists from over the years. From the November 15, 1972 show, there are a few songs that I don't recognize. They are: 1.) LIVING ISN'T REALLY GIVING and 2.) THE RAIN SONG. Does anyone know anything about these songs? Are they lost or unrecorded gems from our three heros? Are they cover songs? They did a cover of COMING INTO LOS ANGELES, so they weren't beyond doing covers. Who sang lead in these songs? I have to cop an ignorance plea, since I only discovered America in the 80s....Yes, I know that ignorance is never an excuse, but for me it's a way of life!!!LOL

Message: 8704 Posted: Mon Oct 25 15:59:42 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Van Go Gan

Yup I think the 4 bonus are all variations on existing tracks. Really great stuff & always interesting to hear elements & insight into GERRY's creative processes & adventures. The BONUS material will be terrific !!!

Message: 8703 Posted: Mon Oct 25 14:41:15 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Van Go Gan

Here's what I know about the bonus tracks. I spoke with Scott at Thoughtscape Sounds this morning and he said that he received the box of VGG CDs on Friday and the first shipment has already gone out. Those of us who pre-ordered them, should get them in the mail any day now. The liner notes that come with the CDs do NOT list what the 4 bonus tracks are. They simply say that there are 4 bonus tracks. I'm trying to find out for sure what the tracks are, but I haven't had any luck so far. I did hear through the grapevine what they might be, so I'll go ahead and share that with you. Keep in mind, this hasn't been confirmed! I guess the first one to receive their CD can confirm it if it's correct.

1) Acoustic version of "Kiss of Life"
2) Phil Hartman's text from "Playing God" ("Brothers and sisters...")
3) Original backwards version of "Till The Sun Comes Up Again" - this is how "Now Sue" was born
4) Harmony only of "Kiss of Life"

Message: 8702 Posted: Mon Oct 25 14:09:05 1999 By: Shayne
Subject: Van Go Gan

Any word on what the 4 bonus tracks are?


Message: 8701 Posted: Mon Oct 25 13:05:19 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re: I resign

Thanks for sharing that Steve! Love it..sign me up! (except for relinquishing the credit cards, that is..hey..a girls' gotta shop when a girls' gotta shop!) :O Have a great week everyone and keep smiling..what's the alternative?? (and besides your face might stay that way!) Janice

Message: 8700 Posted: Mon Oct 25 10:34:14 1999 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: Irvine Meadows Program

..Hi Eddy...I wish I could tell you but I was not at the show....I found the program in the bargain bin at Hogans Music store in Lake Elsinore.......but I like Steve's footnote....sorry Steve when I mentioned that "I found this old program"...I should have told you were I found it...unfortunatly not my garage....maybe there is someone out there that was at the show that can answer your question...I would like to know myself...

Message: 8699 Posted: Mon Oct 25 09:57:14 1999 By: EDDY
Subject: Bill Payne (concert program)

Thanx for sharing that program w/us!
I was just wondering, did Carl Wilson join America on stage for any songs?

Message: 8698 Posted: Mon Oct 25 09:19:17 1999 By: Pete
Subject: You can do magic

How about them Yankees!!

Message: 8697 Posted: Mon Oct 25 00:17:13 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: Stuff I heard on the radio today.

John, I'd buy one too, that makes 3 !!! Then again, I'd be the obnoxious New Yorker that I am, and try to return it, and argue with the seller....LOL

Message: 8696 Posted: Sun Oct 24 23:08:12 1999 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Stuff I heard on the radio today.

Gee, Kevin, I've written a few songs. I'll let you make a cd out of it. Let's see. My mom would buy one and my grandmother. You'd be up at least $20.

Message: 8695 Posted: Sun Oct 24 22:54:56 1999 By: KevinS.
Subject: Stuff I heard on the radio today.

I was listening to Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 today, as I always do with my 10-year old daughters, when Rick shared this bit of information that I though was a good glimps inside the music business:

When a compact disc sells, the band or artists generally makes 6% of the total sale. The record company makes 43%.

Compact discs cost much less to produce than cassettes, yet usually sell for $3 to $5 more than a cassette.

After hearing that, I'm thinking of starting my own record label. All I need now is capitalization, a business plan, knowledge of the music business, an office, a roster of artists, oh, and letterhead.


Message: 8694 Posted: Sun Oct 24 08:35:44 1999 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: I resign

I have printed that to read to my students at school who drive me crazy when they say how lucky I am to be an adult and not have to do homework!! Thanks

Message: 8693 Posted: Sun Oct 24 06:45:40 1999 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: Re: I Resign

I hear you. When we were young we couldn't WAIT to grow up. Now we are forced to deal with all the bad. In the last 6 weeks Nancy and I have had to deal with FIVE funerals involving either family members or close personal friends! But we somehow still soldier on!

Jim...Erie, PA

Message: 8692 Posted: Sat Oct 23 23:21:14 1999 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Rose.. rose....

Its good news really, Gerry's section on the VH site now sez: Van Go Gan is here, hopefully they will be working abit more on this great site!

Message: 8691 Posted: Sat Oct 23 19:51:58 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Goodbye Highway Chords

Me too, I thought for a brief moment that Stevo had tendered his resignation. However I know that as the Chairman & Chief Executive officer of the AMERICA boards, he can never resign, it's in his blood (contract). Thanks for all the work Steve ! Go Orem !

Message: 8690 Posted: Sat Oct 23 18:57:26 1999 By: jeff brink
Subject: YEP!

...Have had computer problems and was checking to see if things are back to normal...Whatever that is?

Message: 8689 Posted: Sat Oct 23 18:55:00 1999 By: jeff brink
Subject: Is this working?

...Is this working?

Message: 8688 Posted: Sat Oct 23 16:51:16 1999 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Goodbye Highway Chords

Steve, I'll email you what I've figured out so far. I haven't worked on it for quite a while but I think now's the time to get back at it.

NB. When I read the title of your post "I resign" I had a brief wave of panic that this page would be no more. You planned it that way, didn't you. Just to make sure we are all still awake. Phew!!!


Message: 8687 Posted: Sat Oct 23 15:58:33 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: I Resign

As Dan Peek once said: "that's the simple life, you know I'd like to make it mine."

Message: 8686 Posted: Sat Oct 23 14:49:21 1999 By: Beech
Subject: Re: I Resign

I'd like to throw in the cell phone and the COMPUTER to the list of things to surrender......Also, do I HAAAAAAVE to know my multiplication tables? Do I? DO I? )C=

Message: 8685 Posted: Sat Oct 23 14:26:09 1999 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re: I resign

..after reading your post Steve these lyrics came to mind....."all across the nation people don't understand does it take the children to make a better land"....

Message: 8684 Posted: Sat Oct 23 10:12:39 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: here i am

Hi Federico. Good to hear from you again. I hope everything is going well for you in Italy. As long as you're playing those America CDs, I'm sure it's going great!

Message: 8683 Posted: Sat Oct 23 10:11:10 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: I Resign

Some of you may have read this before (I know I have) but when I received it from a fellow America fan this morning, somehow I felt like it was appropriate to share it here. I hope that's OK with all of you.

I am hereby officially tendering my resignation as an adult. I have decided I would like to accept the responsibilities of an 8 year-old again. I want to go to McDonald's and think that it's a four-star restaurant. I want to sail sticks across a fresh mud puddle and make a sidewalk with rocks. I want to think M&M's are better than money because you can eat them. I want to lie under a big oak tree and run a lemonade stand with my friends on a hot summer's day. I want to return to a time when life was simple. When all you knew were colors, multiplication tables, and nursery rhymes, but that didn't bother you, because you didn't know what you didn't know and you didn't care. All you knew was to be happy because you were blissfully unaware of all the things that should make you worried or upset. I want to think the world is fair. That everyone is honest and good. I want to believe that anything is possible. I want to be oblivious to the complexities of life and be overly excited by the little things again. I want to live simple again. I don't want my day to consist of computer crashes, mountains of paperwork, depressing news, how to survive more days in the month than there is money in the bank, doctor bills, gossip, illness, and loss of loved ones. I want to believe in the power of smiles, hugs, a kind word, truth, justice, peace, dreams, the imagination, mankind, and making angels in the snow. So... here's my check book and my car-keys, my credit card bills and all my statements. I am officially resigning from adulthood. And if you want to discuss this further, you'll have to catch me first, cause.......

"Tag! You're it."

Message: 8682 Posted: Sat Oct 23 10:02:00 1999 By: Federico
Subject: here i am

Here i am.....
it's been long time since i checked this page for last time.
Just here to say hallo to Steve, Jim and all of you.

Message: 8681 Posted: Sat Oct 23 04:08:20 1999 By: EDDY
Subject: Rose.. rose....

I have some bad news to tell U......

Message: 8680 Posted: Fri Oct 22 22:19:30 1999 By: Janice
Subject: Thank you.

I have received many messages..thanks for all of them. Yes, there are survivors, Chica..and in the years to come I hope that there are many more. My dad is a of a couple in our immediate family..unfortunately we have lost a couple too. I didn't mean to depress anyone with my post, but, rather, to encourage you to remember that life is so short..and if you're lucky enough to have your health, your're lucky enough. Have a wonderful weekend everyone, and thanks again.

Message: 8679 Posted: Fri Oct 22 18:38:39 1999 By: CHICA
Subject: Re: "2000" Concert

Thanks for the Info, I too hope they come this way for I was unable to go to the Connecticut concer.

Message: 8678 Posted: Fri Oct 22 18:32:08 1999 By: CHICA
Subject: re: crankers/Prayers

Dear Janice,
I will keep her in My prayers as I'm sure everyone else will
have hope, my Sister Ex was diagnose with cancer 4 years ago
and He is cancer free today

Message: 8677 Posted: Fri Oct 22 16:21:14 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: re: crankers

Janice, I just wanted to say that my heart goes out to you, your brother, and all of your loved ones. I'm so very sorry...

Message: 8676 Posted: Fri Oct 22 16:17:19 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: goodbye highway chords

Okay Steve, one final piece of useless trivia: I think those are also the same chords to (SWEET) MELISSA by the ALLMAN BROTHERS. There, I'll bet our lives are really enriched with that vital info....NOT

Message: 8675 Posted: Fri Oct 22 12:21:53 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re: crankers

Gotta be Never Be Lonely, California Revisited, You Can Do Magic..and ..Hot Town. (Love that song)!
And while I'm here, can I share a sad story..but maybe one that will prove relevant to some of our lives..My brother will 50 next Feb and he never married, always waiting for 'just the right one'..(smart). Well, he found Pam..and they got engaged last Christmas. They planned a Millenium wedding..turning 50..getting married, the first for Pam also...such grand plans. Pam was diagnosed with a very aggressive cancer yesterday that may take her from my brother before the end of the year..moral? I don't know..maybe live, laugh, May I ask you all to keep my brother and Pam in your prayers? Thanks.

Message: 8674 Posted: Fri Oct 22 10:24:11 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: "2000" Concert

Everything that has been scheduled and confirmed thus far has been posted on the Concert page. As more concerts are confirmed they'll be sent to me by Morey Management and I'll post them. I hope you get some Northeast concerts Chica. Personally, I'm hoping for another Orem show!

Message: 8673 Posted: Fri Oct 22 09:30:07 1999 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Crankin'

everything from HN, sandman/here live from KB, of course green monkey, hells on fire. But theres one song I really think sounds awesome cranked up: miniature

Message: 8672 Posted: Fri Oct 22 09:26:24 1999 By: CHICA
Subject: Re: "2000" Concert

I notice that the 2000 Concert Schedule has some gaps form February 20th and nothing untill June 25th and another gap till July 29th.
Please tell me they are coming to the NORTHEAST In the Spring and Summer.


Message: 8671 Posted: Fri Oct 22 09:21:55 1999 By: AmericaSL

Aren't those the chords to MUSCRAT LOVE? LOL.

Yes they are Andy. That's how I knew what the chord names were. They're also the chords to "I Want To Make It With You" by Bread which is a favorite of mine.

Message: 8670 Posted: Fri Oct 22 09:07:14 1999 By: CHICA
Subject: Re: Turn it up LOUD

I totaly agree that Human nature is a CD to turn up loud
Im lucky enough to have a 10 CD player in my car and the first song I play is From a Moving Train and Wednesday Morning.

when I come to think about it I crank up all of them, I don't know what is to listen to any other music. when Im home or in my car.


Message: 8669 Posted: Fri Oct 22 08:55:30 1999 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: re:Crankin

this may not sound like a song to crank...but I have found myself more than once turning up the car stereo when "Garden of Peace" is playing....(isnt it ironic...the song still gives me a feeling of peace)...maybe its an effort to cover up the sound of my own voice singing along......

Message: 8668 Posted: Fri Oct 22 08:50:09 1999 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Crankin'

Anything from the Horse With No Name CD. That CD really rocks. Odds and ends that fall into the crank it up category would be Valentine, She's Gone, Jet Boy Blue, Hurricane, and Here and Sandman from the King Biscuit CD.

Message: 8667 Posted: Fri Oct 22 00:25:34 1999 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Crankin'

My favorite song to blast is High In The City. What a great song. Also Riverside and Sandman. Oh, and Never Be Lonely. Can't forget Sergeant Darkness....awesome song any way it's played!
Hope you all have a great weekend!
Erin :o)

Message: 8666 Posted: Thu Oct 21 23:46:41 1999 By: KevinS.
Subject: Re: Cranking.



(Words by Dewey Bunnell. 1000x amplification by me.)

Message: 8665 Posted: Thu Oct 21 23:05:03 1999 By: ANDY

Aren't those the chords to MUSCRAT LOVE? LOL.

Message: 8664 Posted: Thu Oct 21 22:54:56 1999 By: Jim Griffey
Subject: Re: Crankin'

My favorite crankers:
"Sandman/Here" from King Biscuit,"She's a Liar" "Greenhouse" "Everyone I Meet Is From California (acoustic version)" "Company" "Only Game..." "All Night"

Jim...Erie, PA

Message: 8663 Posted: Thu Oct 21 22:39:05 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Goodbye Highway Chords

A couple of months ago (see message #7927) Jim gave the opening chords to Gerry's Goodbye Highway (from Van Go Gan) in response to a question by John. I tried figuring out the rest of the chords tonight and I wasn't very successful (hey, I'm just a novice when it comes to playing the guitar). Anyway, this is such a great song that I thought I'd post the 2 opening chords here and see if any of you other guitar experts can figure out the rest. If you can, e-mail them to me and I'll post them in a readable format. Thanks in advance. --Steve

F#m7         Emaj7
------       ------
|||*||(2fr)  |||*||(4fr)
||||||       ||||||
|**|||       |**|||

Message: 8662 Posted: Thu Oct 21 20:03:40 1999 By: Bones
Subject: Re: Crankin'

Only Game in Town and She's a Liar, kind of make the old ears ring for a while when cranked. A live CD from this tour would sound nice cranked up toooo!!!!

Message: 8661 Posted: Thu Oct 21 18:23:22 1999 By: Dan
Subject: Re: Crankin'

How can anyone not crank Sandman and Old Man Took off the King Biscuit Live CD? Oh and don't forget Half a Man off Hearts. America can kick butt! Dan

Message: 8660 Posted: Thu Oct 21 17:48:34 1999 By: OldManToke
Subject: Crankin'

Eerie, John...was playing Hell's On Fire when I sent that last post! Now you know. Seems also that even some acoustic "unplugged" and "mellow" songs just cry out to be turned up. Thinkin' it helps give a feeling of closeness, like they're giving us a private concert in our living room or something...which may not be impossible. Seems we think alike so far on the choices, ShariL, Virginia, and ANDY! Any song about California should be turned UP. Just go awhile without playing HN (if possible), then put it back will continue to KICK forever

Message: 8659 Posted: Thu Oct 21 17:11:32 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: WOOPS!

Woops, looks like I posted "FROM A MOVING TRAIN" twice.
Boy, that college education really paid off, huh?

Message: 8658 Posted: Thu Oct 21 17:07:40 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: What to turn up LOUD

The short answer is everything. If that won't do:

1.) EVERYONE I MEET IS FROM CALIFORNIA (Calif. Revisited is fine,too)

2.) MOON SONG...No, the fadeout doesn't cause me to throw the car
into reverse...

3.) HAT TRICK...The all-time greatest America song begs to be played
loud...even the slowest parts.

4. COMPANY...The instrumental fadeout at the end could cause even my
grandmother to speed...And she doesn't drive!!!

5. GREEN MONKEY...The best part here is when people ask:
"That's America?!!"

6.) NOW SHE'S GONE... From the album that everyone pretends never

7.) SARGENT DARKNESS... Who cares if it's mellow? The greatest Gerry
Beckley composition MUST be turned up! Now, if
only we could get them to play it live...sigh.

8.) TOMORROW...Dan Peek's finest hour (and he has many!)

9.) COASTLINE...This is literally a driving song, in part.

10.) CAST THE SPIRIT... Your Move has a few good driving songs.

11.)Almost the entire SILENT LETTER album.

12.)EVEN THE SCORE...Has anyone heard the live version from the Tom
Snyder show? It's even better!

13.) CATCH THAT TRAIN...A superior driving song from Dewey.

14.) PAGES... Dewey's best in many years is great at ANY volume!


16.) DONKEY JAW...The fade-out at the end begs for ear-bleeding


18.) LIVIN' LA VIDA LOCA...Okay, I just wanted to see if anyone was
still paying attention.

19.) Every other America song that I DIDN'T mention above.

Message: 8657 Posted: Thu Oct 21 17:01:25 1999 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Crank it UP

Loud you say?

How about Hell's on Fire, Mirror to Mirror, Green House, Valentine, High In The City...


Message: 8656 Posted: Thu Oct 21 13:50:29 1999 By: Virginia
Subject: Re: Crank it UP

Just scrolled through the song list and decided there are too many to list. If I were to choose just a few they would be:

Everyone I Meet is from CA- Encore version (wish they would play it this way live). My right foot gets VERY heavy on the freeway when this song starts.
Never Be Lonely- Live version
Mirror to Mirror
Molten Love
Green Monkey
Three Roses

Message: 8654 Posted: Thu Oct 21 13:32:59 1999 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Turn it up LOUD

What comes to mind immediately for me is Human Nature, since I just took it out of my cd player in my car and replaced it with Alibi.
From A Moving Train and Pages have both been heard by many people in San Diego because they are blasting out of my convertible.
ShariL <><

Message: 8653 Posted: Thu Oct 21 13:08:13 1999 By: OldManToke
Subject: Re: Crank it UP

Totally agreed, Mark. PRODUCTION is the word, whether it's goods, services, technological advances, or entertainment. I recall some debates last week surrounding the world population reaching 6 billion. My favorite explanation was the same as yours. Agree also with EDDY that one click a day seems "too" easy, but hopeful it actually helps.

Aside from the natural answer that ALL America songs should be turned up loud (well maybe not all), I was wondering which favorites make us want to give it all the watts we this moment, anyway. Not necessarily a favorite song, but the one that sounds best when it's Cranked UP in the car, or at home when we can. It changes for me all the time, but some songs seem more made to be played loud, by us as well as by the Guys.

Message: 8652 Posted: Thu Oct 21 12:52:13 1999 By: Virginia
Subject: Re: Van Go Gan Is On Its Way!

Steve, you made my day! This has been a long time coming for those of us who have been listening to purloined taped copies. I am SO glad Gerry is doing this. I'm looking forward to the remix of "Goodbye Highway" and the bonus tracks. That's where I'll be going first. YEA!

Message: 8651 Posted: Thu Oct 21 10:16:44 1999 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Van Go Gan Is On Its Way!

CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!
THANX for the info, I'll be waiting for the mail next week, & skipping to the bonus tracks the minute I get it into my hands!!!

Message: 8650 Posted: Thu Oct 21 10:08:16 1999 By: Steve Jones
Subject: Re: Van Go Gan Is On Its Way!

I told Gerry I knew if I held out long enough, that "Van Go Gan" would come out domestically! Hooh hah!

Message: 8649 Posted: Thu Oct 21 09:59:48 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Van Go Gan Is On Its Way!

Great news everyone. Scott (at Thoughtscape Sounds) talked to Gerry yesterday and Gerry told him that the domestic Van Go Gan CDs have been shipped and Scott will receive them on Monday. As soon as he receives them he'll start filling ALL of the pre-orders. Scott said that he is still taking pre-orders from anybody who wants to call him before Monday.

Regarding the 4 bonus tracks, I still haven't been able to find out for sure what they are but I've heard that they were from the original VGG recording sessions and they feature some people who are no longer with us.


Message: 8648 Posted: Thu Oct 21 07:47:14 1999 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Off the Subject,/ OldManToke

Just couldn't resist responding when you mentioned the often quoted "USA has 5 % of the world's population but uses 20 % of the resources." I have heard that or similar quotes for years. I'm not sure how accurate it is, I've never seen any hard statistics. But even if it is accurate, comparing population to resources is an invalid comparison. What should be compared is resources versus economic PRODUCTION. The fact is that even though we may be only 5 % of the population, the US has the largest, most proficient economy in the world. We produce more and buy and sell more than any other nation. The US economy is the engine that drives the world economy. So it is reasonable to assume that we would be utilizing more of the world's resources in our production efforts.

Message: 8647 Posted: Thu Oct 21 01:17:00 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: Meaning of PEOPLE IN THE VALLEY

Jim and Erin, I have no clue about the song's meaning but I definitely agree, it is TOTALLY awesome!!! The harmonies are just not to be believed!!!!

Message: 8646 Posted: Wed Oct 20 23:38:18 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Lyric meaning

Glad you mentioned PEOPLE IN THE VALLEY. That is another one of the artistic masterpieces as an LP song. I count that song as one of DEWEY's masterpieces. I don't know where it came from w/in Dewey. But my imagination has always layered it against a sort of depression era, black & white story, perhaps set in the English or Irish countryside about the struggles in a town of the people. Maybe a Frank Capra type of film. Every AMERICA song is a movie condensed from 2 hours to 3-4 minutes. I also imagined a performance of this song w/DEWEY singing the lead & a choir type of group singing the chorus, in a performing arts venue. PEOPLE IN THE VALLEY a masterpiece !

Message: 8645 Posted: Wed Oct 20 23:23:43 1999 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: The Last One, I Promise

Nice photo, Steve! I for one never get tired of seeing America pictures!
On another subject, (I forgot to put it on my earlier post!) I was watching Behind The Music-Woodstock this morning before work. They had a segment on Blood,Sweat,& Tears, & mentioned that one of the members of the band, Bob Colombie (Spelling?) went on to produce America, this is something that I never Knew. Maybe I got it wrong or something, but they did show a nice photo of the band (the inside Album sleeve of Harbor) Anyone else seen this? Just wondering.

Message: 8644 Posted: Wed Oct 20 23:05:06 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: The Last One, I Promise

It took me over a month but I finally finished the roll of film that has been in my camera since the Labor Day weekend concert here in Orem. The very first picture on that rolls is a picture taken backstage with Dewey and my 3 youngest children, Scott, Angeline, and Brett. I've included it with the other Orem photos but I wanted to show it off while it was fresh in my memory. I promise that it's the last photo from the Orem concert (for those who have surely seen and heard enough about that concert already). Thanks for indulging me. --Steve

Message: 8643 Posted: Wed Oct 20 23:02:38 1999 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Lyric meaning

I have no idea what it means, but I LOVE that song.

Erin :o)

Message: 8642 Posted: Wed Oct 20 22:31:20 1999 By: Dan
Subject: Lyric meaning

Where did the song People in the Valley come from? ie; "Soon came the people from over in the valley, hundreds of them walking towards us in the rain." Just listening to it and wondering. Thanks all you America sleuths for helping me out with this. Dan

Message: 8641 Posted: Wed Oct 20 22:27:01 1999 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Off the Subject, So if you're sensitive to that kind of thing...

Bookmarked it, will do it once a day, seems TO easy for some reason, but am allways willing to help.

Message: 8640 Posted: Wed Oct 20 18:37:50 1999 By: OldManToke
Subject: Re: Off the Subject, So if you're sensitive to that kind of thing...

Good idea, Matt (Msg# 8612). I've had the same wonderings regarding how, where, and under what circumstances we're all born into. It is less of a mystery why I like "older" music, but that's yet another subject. Despite the grumblings of those who say the USA has (is it?) 5% of the world population but uses over 20% of the world's resources, no one can deny the help and opportunity we give to all. This is truely AMERICA. Seems not only natural, but part of the Plan itself to share the wealth well fought, worked, and died for, and also the love, which, by our birthright, should never be taken for granted. Compliments to you for your actions...your being a celebrity and all (don't deny it!), and at the very least, the son of one, I realize efforts like yours can be construed as a p.r. thing. I for one believe that it comes from your heart, and that you have witnessed some conditions which caused you to speak out. Thanks for using the power in such a positive way. Gotta go push that button now at

Message: 8639 Posted: Wed Oct 20 16:04:14 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re: off the subject..

a very worthwhile subject it is, Matt..I have also discussed this with my kids..hopefully I am raising the type of caring and compassionate kids that your parents obviously did..thanks for sharing! There is a lot we all can do..even close to home, and with holidays upon us, there are many avenues available.. reach out and help a needy family this holiday season. :)

Message: 8638 Posted: Wed Oct 20 15:47:02 1999 By: Brandon Rose
Subject: Re: Off the Subject, So if you're sensitive to that kind of thing...

This is a good cause and terrific. I have taken your advice and added this site to my favorites and I intend to do my part. You were correct when you said, and please excuse me for paraphrasing, "To think the majority of the world goes to bed hungry every night is unfathomable." It makes me so glad to be an American everytime I read or hear what is going on in the rest of the world. Thanks for sharing this with us.

Your Florida Friend... Brandon Rose

Message: 8637 Posted: Wed Oct 20 13:58:55 1999 By: CJ
Subject: Re: Pittsburgh!!!

That was me - the brunette was an "accessory" to my seat change from Row G (section 5). You should have moved up too - hate to see empty seats in the front row :( Glad to see someone else from the Board was there!!! Yes, I had roses for the band - the whole band (& Pete & Bill, too!) - lots of different colors - I guess the yellow ones stuck out more than the others!!

Had a wonderful time - hope you did!!

Chris - Cleveland

Message: 8636 Posted: Wed Oct 20 10:36:04 1999 By: CHICA
Subject: Re: Bio

Dear Sid,
I could not agreed with you more. I can't understand how so call
Music critic can not see the beauty in all there songs all I do all day is listen to AMERICA'S SONG and can't believe how great each and all there songs are I can not say that for other artist to have so many great songs in all there albums.


Message: 8635 Posted: Wed Oct 20 10:15:29 1999 By: CHICA
Subject: Re: Off the Subject, So if you're sensitive to that kind of thing...

Dear Matt,
thank you very much for the info. I can"t think of a better reason to
get off the subject.
Sincerely, Chica

Message: 8634 Posted: Wed Oct 20 09:30:25 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Writing On Their Sleeves.

I think one of DEWEY's song contributions associated w/life as an Airforce military child was, of course, the classic rocker SANDMAN.
And maybe the title to SERGEANT DARKNESS something to do w/so much exposure to the military world ? And yes GERRY's hit single FROM A MOVING TRAIN (from the exceptional new LP HUMAN NATURE) of course having do w/all the moving/traveling that he has always done thru out his life & continues.

Message: 8633 Posted: Wed Oct 20 09:04:05 1999 By: Maureen
Subject: For Matt..

Hi Matt,
I just read your post regarding the hunger issue throughout the world.
Thank you very much for enlightening us with this web site. I have already passed it on to a few friends. I also have added to my "favorites".

Thanks for sharing your sensitive side with us!!!!


Message: 8632 Posted: Wed Oct 20 09:01:36 1999 By: KevinS.
Subject: Writing On Their Sleeves.

I thought I read somewhere that the line "WRITING ON THEIR SLEEVES" was a reference to the stripes on their military uniforms. It makes sense in context of the song about people coming and going in his life as an air force child.


Message: 8631 Posted: Wed Oct 20 09:00:09 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Aussie dates

Rick, I'm also trying to find out from Morey Management where the Starlight Theater is. I'll be sure to let everyone know if I hear anything.

Message: 8630 Posted: Wed Oct 20 03:59:05 1999 By: rick
Subject: Aussie dates

Can anyone let me know where the Starlight Theatre for AMERICA's
Jan 2 2000 is? It must be a new venue as i've never heard of it.I also
rang up ticketek and they didn't know of it either.

Message: 8629 Posted: Wed Oct 20 03:45:07 1999 By: Andrew
Subject: ...Submarine Ladies

Thanks to those who responded to my question....I knew I came to the right place...


Message: 8628 Posted: Wed Oct 20 00:41:04 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: The meaning of TO EACH HIS OWN

This is a perfect song from an absolutely perfect album. Indeed, it seems to be about moving many times when one has a parent in the military. The bridge, I think, makes a direct reference to that: "Will I make it through the summer, breaking ties with the old and new. Loosing one just gains another, there is nothing I can do." As far as the line about getting caught with writing on their sleeves, I can only take a wild guess and say that it's some sort of reference to cheating, perhaps on a test. The line about "familiar faces turning red..." might back this up, but then again, I'm probably grasping for straws. Either way, it's a great question about a masterpiece!

Message: 8627 Posted: Tue Oct 19 23:12:31 1999 By: Denny
Subject: Re: Pittsburgh!!!

Saw my 101st show last night with you...I was in the second row dead center...section 5...hope that you made it home safe.
My brother and I are thinking of making the Y2K trip to Australia to see America bring in the New Year.

Thanks for being there last night...thought I saw you....with the brunette...did you have yellow roses to give the band?

Take care...DG

Message: 8626 Posted: Tue Oct 19 21:59:22 1999 By: Yng Moon
Subject: Re: The Meaning of "To Each His Own" Lyrics rhymes ?

Message: 8625 Posted: Tue Oct 19 21:42:05 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: Chandler Ariz. show 11/6

That looks like a real nice show, will be at the Chandler Performing Arts Centre. Hope many of you can attend to see AMERICA at their usual best & in a very fine setting. GO AMERICA ! Last tune-ups b/4 the overseas leg of this tour.

Message: 8624 Posted: Tue Oct 19 21:28:35 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Bio

Well put Sid. AMERICA's work is not entirely understood & comprehended by present day critics. But wasn't that the same w/Vincent Van Gogh's work ? Masterpieces are always before their time. Maybe Scott West from can do a book.

Message: 8623 Posted: Tue Oct 19 21:04:37 1999 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Off the Subject, So if you're sensitive to that kind of thing...

Matt, Mark et al. Thanks for the reminder and site info Matt. And while I do agree that there is enough food to go around and that distribution is certainly part of the prob I believe that the bigger issue is the World Bank and the IMF and their policies towards development in Africa, South America, Asia etc. My wife and I lived in Botswana Africa for 2 years (87-89) and experienced first hand the result of the IMFs "restructuring". Countries like Zambia, Malawi etc were relatively self-sufficient. At least, most people had enough to eat. Then you get corrupt, power-hungry dictators in power and the World Bank etc. was quick to lend $ to these dictators for arms etc. providing they stopped producing their traditional crops and went to cash crops like coffee, tea for consumption in the north. Little $ trickles down to the local farmers who have now lost their subsistent way of life, the heads of government gets rich while the debt rises at an impossible rate. The result is, as we know, millions and millions without enough to eat. Phew, Sorry for the rant.

I'll get off my soapbox now and put on Hattrick.


Message: 8622 Posted: Tue Oct 19 20:05:23 1999 By: Sid
Subject: Bio

You know I see a lot of rock & Roll groups & singers With books written about them & their history.I would like to see a book written about the group called America.They've been together for 30 years or so & I'm sure they must have a lot to say(write).I know I would buy it.How about an Anthlogy CD with old & new stuff??America must be the most underrated group in the USA.I can't stand the way these Rags like Rolling Stone Magazine always seem to put them down. SID

Message: 8621 Posted: Tue Oct 19 19:43:12 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: the meaning of SUBMARINE LADIES

Andrew, this is almost a sacred topic for me, as I am totally fanatical about that song in particular, and the HAT TRICK album in general. This is a song I sometimes do at some of the local "open mics" in my area. Obviously, I can't come within a zillion light years of doing Gerry's vocals justice (come to think of it, I doubt my voice could do his lawmower any justice), but lack of ability never stopped me from trying!
I'll admit that I'm a little puzzled by the meaning of SUBMARINE LADIES. There is definitely an element of unrequited love, but then again, there is that line about "If I seem to you indifferent once or twice, it's because I was feeling quite that way..." Those seem like strange sentiments for someone who is interested in someone else, only to be rejected. Ditto for the line about hanging up the phone and not speaking again.
As for the title of the song itself, I'll bet there are many America fans that scratch their heads over that one. The reason that I feel foolish about guessing here is that we are really taking about a song by Gerry Beckley, someone who is fully capable of creating wonderful songs based entirely on fiction. (Daisey Jane comes to mind.) So if Gerry can write a song out of thin air, what's to prevent him from CREATING a title to a song out of thin air? To be sure, it seems like an improbable title to that song. For all I know, Gerry couldn't think of a title, and just happened to glance at a book on naval weaponry...Who knows? Or perhaps while trying to think of a name for his song, he needed to use the facilities at a restaurant, and almost wandered into the wrong room (ladies). O.k. I'm getting silly, never mind...
Let me echo BEACHLADY'S sentiments: I would have killed (figuratively speaking) to have had you as an English teacher!!! One of these days, I'll seriously post a question about one of the ultimate Gerry Beckley lines: "Just a little of nothing, that's all you had the time to give..." Anyway that's much more straightforward, and for another discussion....

Message: 8620 Posted: Tue Oct 19 19:17:37 1999 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Off the Subject, So if you're sensitive to that kind of thing...

Wow...that's really great. Thanks for the info and the link!
Erin :o)

Message: 8619 Posted: Tue Oct 19 18:04:52 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: The Meaning of "To Each His Own" Lyrics

I think GERRY (somewhere in the public domain) has said it was a song about all the moving he did as a military kid. I think DEWEY has also commented that he was influenced by all the moving his family did. I think DEWEY once said something to the effect that he moved 19 times in 21 years or something close to it. The only good thing about the constant moving was that if you messed up as kid, you could always start over again. So AMERICA's lifelong World Tour may have had it's roots in their childhoods. GO AMERICA !

Message: 8618 Posted: Tue Oct 19 15:59:28 1999 By: Mark
Subject: New Dan Peek Single?

I just dropped in to Dan's web page and checked what he had available from 7-Mile records and saw a listing I hadn't heard of before. It is:

On Wings of Eagles (Dan Peek) Single: $5.50*
*Proceeds go to International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.

Has anybody got it yet?

Message: 8617 Posted: Tue Oct 19 14:48:30 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: The Meaning of "To Each His Own" Lyrics

The topic of lyric interpretation is very interesting. I think Gerry's "To Each His Own" is one of his most beautifully sung songs on "Homecoming". From the following lyrics, I'm interested in knowing what others think the meaning is...especially the words in caps:

Familiar faces that I've seen
Turning red and turning green

They just got caught with WRITING ON THEIR SLEEVE
I guess I'll leave

Message: 8616 Posted: Tue Oct 19 14:35:22 1999 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Off the Subject, So if you're sensitive to that kind of thing...

Yes hunger is a problem in many areas. But in most cases you will find that it not due to a lack of food, but due to a lack of distribution. This is usually due to war or ethnic/political rivalries. Case in point, the Marines went into Somalia a few years back to end the starvation. They found wharehouses full of food, but it was under the control of various warlords and not available for general distribution where needed. Stalin did the same thing to the Ukranians in the 1930s. Food (rather the denial of food) is being used as a weapon in various places to settle political and ethnic disputes.

Message: 8615 Posted: Tue Oct 19 13:10:38 1999 By: Yng Moon
Subject: Re: Off the Subject, So if you're sensitive to that kind of thing...

You have a huge heart Matt...thanks for sharing this IMPORTANT post !! Giving back is a very serious part in life. The feeling of helping out your community or wherever, is incedible. We should all do our part....I will definitly add it to my favorite places !! Glad to see the "sensitive" side of you MB !!

Message: 8614 Posted: Tue Oct 19 13:00:43 1999 By: Yng Moon
Subject: Re: Submarine Ladies...

This is so cool Andrew.....I'll bite. Of course everyone has their opinion on what titles stand for, this is my perception for what it's worth.....

"Submarine Ladies".....submerged feelings of a love affair that can't be exposed in the light of day...kept under covers.....she can't see or feel his deep feelings for her....why doesn't she understand ?

Just a guess folks.....

Message: 8613 Posted: Tue Oct 19 12:46:57 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Long and short of it

Red Oak, I think that Kevin did a pretty good job of answering your first two questions. It REALLY IS up to the venue how long the guys get to play. Regarding your third question, nobody knows the Colorado dates for 2000. As the concerts are scheduled I receive an update from Morey Management and I post them the same night on the America Fans web site. Here is a link to the list of 2000 concerts so far.

Message: 8612 Posted: Tue Oct 19 12:19:04 1999 By: mBluLight
Subject: Off the Subject, So if you're sensitive to that kind of thing...

Hello Everyone.

I know what I'm about to say is off the subject but I truly feel that this is very important.

Every three and a half seconds someone dies on this small blue planet of ours becuase they could not get enough to eat. This is not because of anything they have done, an unwillingness to work or a self imposed fast, but simply because they live in an underdeveloped country where the food is simply not available. How hard this is for me to fathom. I get mildly irked if the cupboard is bare and I have to drive over to Rubio's for a snack.

I can not tell you why we are so lucky, how the infinite odds of chance and coincidence have born us into situatons where the majority of us can take the simple act of eating for granted. And that "majority of us" is actually a minority. In a global sense more of us are going without rather then with.

But there is now something you, person on the internet, can do. There is an internet site,, that is helping the fight against hunger. At no cost to you, you can hit the "donate food" button, only once a day, and a various list of sponsors pay for approximately a cup and a half of food to be sent to the UN's World Food Organization. Don't take my word for it. Go to the site. Check it out. It's truly a case where everyone, most importantly the hungry, win.

The Web Site respectfully asks that you do not spam people with the site address, thereby risking turning people off of a noble cause. But I consider the people on this folder to be somewhat more then completely random strangers. Therefore I've passed on the message to you.

Please, take the time to visit the site, add it to your favorties, and visit it once a day to donate. Once again, it is at no cost to you. It takes about ten seconds for you to be the difference between life or death for an individual.

Thank you for your time, I hope all are doing well.

matt Beckley

Message: 8611 Posted: Tue Oct 19 12:15:24 1999 By: KevinS.
Subject: re: long and short.

That's a good question. I've found the best, and only, way to find out if America is playing "the long set or short set" is to call the venue and ask some questions. America was in Houston earlier this year playing at some festival with a number of other acts. I figured it wouldn't be a very long show for each act, so I called. They told me America would play for roughly 40 minutes. As much as I love seeing America in concert, that particular show wasn't worth my driving 6 hours to see. The only thing I can think of is to do some legwork and find out on your own. I can't think of any other way.


Message: 8610 Posted: Tue Oct 19 11:52:21 1999 By: red oak
Subject: Long and short of it

How does a prospective America concert goer determine which program(long or short) they'll get when looking at the concert list?
Also, how does one tell if America is sharing billing at certain venues?
Does anyone know the Colorado dates for 2000?

Red Oak

Message: 8609 Posted: Tue Oct 19 10:41:35 1999 By: Beech
Subject: Re: Submarine Ladies...

Pretty COOL idea, Andrew!!! I wish I'd had YOU for and English teacher way back.....

Message: 8608 Posted: Tue Oct 19 10:05:36 1999 By: CJ
Subject: Pittsburgh!!!

Well, got in my little green truck and drove to Pittsburgh - got lost, nearly in tears in a scary neighborhood just around the corner from Palumbo!!! I finally did get there and had a wonderful time. Got the "short show" and only one encore :(

Got to hang with Pete & Bill a bit - a cig by the backstage door turned out to be a "Hey" to the band when they arrived!! Cool!!! Officially met Scott (we met before but didn't realize who he was - just loved his hair!!!)

I started out with 7th row, right, seats - not bad but not good 'cause the guy behind me kept having coughing fits!!!! After the opener (pretty good until he did his Clinton impersonation and THEN Elvis - couldn't take it, had to go for a walk), I was kidding a woman front & center about her seats and ended up sitting next to her for the whole show!!! Thanks to the pretty brunette!!! I'm spoiled at this point for anything less - makes me crabby!!

Got to sit with the Band after the show (took 'em roses) in their dressing room for a few minutes before Scott whisked them off - veryyyy cool! What's with the onions????

Eventually found the "Lobby Bar" and hung out for a little while - Pete, Gerry & Willie came out for a bit - it was nice, I think I like this part of the shows the best - comfortable, easy and no distractions!!

At 11:30p.m., I finally decided it was time to hit the road. Thanks to Bill for the alternate route, it took me 2.5 hours (atleast 1/2 hour less) to get home. Should have stayed - pretty wiped out when I finally pulled in - Please tell me I'm not too old for this anymore!!! Guess I shouldn't have gotten up at 5:30a.m. for a workout, huh?

In short, had a wonderful time!!! Thanks got to all, it's been a wonderful year of fulfilling that New Year's Resolution and I am truly greatful for the music, Friends and fans I've met over the last 10 months - it's been a colorful ride - nearly 3,000 miles to prove it!!

Hoping to see America in my town (for a change) in the Spring!!

Chris - Cleveland

Message: 8607 Posted: Tue Oct 19 09:37:45 1999 By: KevinS.
Subject: Re: Submarine Ladies.


I may be totally off base, but since you asked: I always thought it was a veiled sexual reference.


Message: 8606 Posted: Tue Oct 19 04:39:43 1999 By: Andrew
Subject: Submarine Ladies...

Today, I used "Submarine Ladies" in my University English class here in Japan, first as listening practice with a transcription, then later as a means to generate peer discussion and writing topics. As most of my students are very unfamiliar with foreign music, let alone early tunes by America, listening to this song was a novel experience for many of them. Many thought this to be a "sad" or "dark" song, about unrequitted love and so forth, not something they were prepared for early in the morning. One question that arose was the meaning of the title, "Submarine Ladies." Oddly enough, I didn't have much to offer in response in that my ideas were rather hard and complicated to explain to a class of second language learners...So, I'm really curious: What are your ideas about the title, "Submarine Ladies"? I'd really like to know...


Message: 8605 Posted: Tue Oct 19 01:45:49 1999 By: Brad
Subject: Re: Everyone I Meet Is From California

Every One I Meet was the B side 45 to Horse. It was also released on the Rhino release Encore More Greatest Hits. It is basically the same song except that is an all acoustic version with Dan singing. It also has a little different intro


Message: 8604 Posted: Tue Oct 19 00:19:25 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: Everyone I Meet Is From California

By the way, is that song actually known as EVERYONE I MEET IS FROM CALIFORNIA, or is it CALIFORNIA REVISITED? I'm sorry if I'm repeating a question that was already asked on these pages.
On another note, I've totally flipped over Dewey's song PAGES. (It can take me a while to really flip over a song) I must have played it twenty times today. I absolutely love the guitar work in that song, especially Dewey's excellent nylon string picking!
The acoustic guitars that they use in concert all seem to be Taylors, to address Billy's earlier observation. And yes, those Taylors always seem to sound great, even when everything isn't mixed too well. I'm glad that they got rid of the Ovation guitar line from a few years back. (no offense intended towards Ovation fans).

Message: 8603 Posted: Mon Oct 18 23:35:13 1999 By: Joe Knight
Subject: Fairfax

Fairfax was outstanding. They played 22 0r 23 songs including 2 songs for their encore.(as previosly mentioned) Deweys voice was really good last night, the best in the 4 shows we have seen this year. Gerry was as always ,at his best. The guy who opened for them was very good also. He was also funny. He did a great impersonation of Clinton. Funny stuff, a gret show all around.....................
We stayed over and went to DC . I spent the day in the Air and Space museum and visiting the sights...America rules.....Joe K

Message: 8602 Posted: Mon Oct 18 18:10:30 1999 By: ANDY

To those who saw the Fairfax show, I just want to say that I am soooooooooooo jealous that you got to hear EVERYONE I MEET IS FROM CALIFORNIA. They never seem to play that one when I see them. By the way, is it me, or has anyone noticed a resemblance between NEVER BE LONELY and THINGS WE SAID TODAY? Either way, they're both great songs, even if I'm just hearing things.

Message: 8601 Posted: Mon Oct 18 16:53:17 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: So CA Quake

Robyn, I'm glad to hear you're OK and I hope everything works out well for you in your change at work. As soon as you get a new e-mail address, let me know so that I can update your chat folder account. Your e-mail address is the one thing that can't be changed using the Update Registration screen because I don't want to allow people to give fake addresses. That's the reason that the password has to be e-mailed to you when you register. Those of you who have been on the chat folder for a while, should have noticed that it has cut out all of the anonymous posts attacking other fans. Accountability is a wonderful thing!

By the way, I got the same information from Scott at Thoughtscape Sounds as Virginia did. Since Gerry will have a break after tonight's concert, I suspect he'll be able to focus his attention on Van Go Gan again.

Message: 8600 Posted: Mon Oct 18 14:56:31 1999 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: So CA Quake

Hi all! Just to let everyone know, that despite having the misfortune of being in the Disneyland hotel during the quake, we are ok out here ( as my dd put it, "best ride in the Park!) Coulda been worse, my folks live in 29 Palms near the epicenter!

This is my last post for a while. Due to a change in work, I will be unable to get on line there ( I am on vacation and at a branch library, so I hope this posts!) I will be getting my OWN COMPUTER in about two weeks. Till then, I am at the mercy of public access. I will send everyone my new e-mail address at that time. Talk to you all later!!!!

Message: 8599 Posted: Mon Oct 18 14:17:48 1999 By: Billy
Subject: Re: Concert Review

Concert last night (17 October) at Patriot Center, Fairfax, Va., was awesome (did you expect anything else)!! Same set as in Conn., except they played two songs for encore...Everyone I Meet's from California and Horse with No Name. For guitar buffs, I did notice the custom Crook 12-string electric was replaced with a Rickenbacher. Also, I think Dewey was sporting a new telecaster. It was a really cool fiery orange. Accoustic guitars looked like Taylors (and sure sounded great). The show was excellent, but I was disappointed in the company providing the sound mix. It took them a few songs to dial in the mix--especially the vocals-- and they never did do justice to Brad's bass!

Message: 8598 Posted: Mon Oct 18 14:15:09 1999 By: Virginia
Subject: The latest on VGG release

Just got an e-mail from Scott at Thoughtscape replying to my inquiry about the release date of VGG. He said, "I am waiting on Gerry to call me and let me know if he has shipped the CD yet."

So, if you all out there are haunting your mailboxes, it sounds like it's going to be a little while longer. If patience is a virtue, then let me tell you, I have been SO virtuous. After tonight's concert, it looks like there is a break of several weeks (I'm sure they all need it!), so maybe soon.

Message: 8597 Posted: Mon Oct 18 13:34:37 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Concert Review

Here's the playlist from the second show of the Connecticut concert (Mohegan Sun Casino) on October 16. They played 2 shows on Friday and 2 on Saturday and I presume that the playlist was pretty much the same for all 4 shows.

Ventura Highway
You Can Do Magic
Don't Cross the River
Daisy Jane
I Need You
Wednesday Morning
Wheels Are Turning
Tin Man
Woman Tonight
Only in Your Heart
Lonely People
Things We Said Today
Sister Golden Hair
A Horse With No Name (encore)

Message: 8596 Posted: Mon Oct 18 12:20:40 1999 By: Indigoglow
Subject: Concert Review

Does anybody have the set lists from the concerts over the weekend. I would like to see what they played


Message: 8595 Posted: Sun Oct 17 21:58:45 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Mass. Shows

Thanks for the great review, Gary. I'm downloading the photos now and I'll try to get them out as soon as possible but I don't know if I'll have time to do it tonight or not.

Message: 8594 Posted: Sun Oct 17 15:28:44 1999 By: gary
Subject: Mass. Shows

Howdy America Fans,

I know it's a little late, but I have been awfully busy over the last week and have finally found the time to post my review of the Topsfield Fair shows from last weekend. The guys did 4 shows total, 2 on Friday and 2 on Sat. The venue was a small outdoor setting, but was jammed packed for each show. I will guess that there were probably about a thousand people at each show. The stage and sound system were excellent. I sat on the front row for each show and I was about 10 ft. from the stage. The weather in New England last weekend was absolutely gorgeous. The early shows started at 2:00PM and the late shows at 7:00PM. During the first show on Friday just after Riverside, Dewey goes running off the stage to one of the dressing trailers located out back. Gerry says to the audience, "Oh, Dewey went to go find his sunglasses". Meanwhile Woodzie starts playing the tune to "Jepreody". Finally Dewey appears on stage and says "man I wasn't expecting it to be so bright, we are looking right into the sun". Then Brad says under his breath "maybe you should try playing blind, it probably wouldn't be any worse". This got a chuckle out of the crowd. The set was basically the short set, and each show lasted about an hour. Gerry mentioned during the first show on Sat. that he had a cold. Then during the Sat. night show he tells the audience "for those of you who knew I had a cold, I think it is getting better. I keep getting a whiff of barn animal now and then". Also during this show just after "Only in Your Heart" Gerry goes 1..2..3..4..and starts to play the next song and then looks up but nobody else is ready. Dewey didn't even have a guitar strapped on and Woodzie was fiddling around with his amplifier. Gerry, very smoothly says to the crowd, "you can see just how slick and precision this act has become after 29 years". The crowd cracked up. I heard a lot of people after the shows comment on the friendliness of the band and their interaction with the audience. These shows were fee and were included with the price of admissio n to the fair which was $6.00. I heard a lot of people saying "man, I can't believe these guys are actually playing here". And also "what is a band like America doing playing at this little po-dunk fair". I immediately told then that these guys are not on an ego trip and are not the least bit pompus and will play anywhere as long as people are appreciative and enjoy their music. We all know that there are some bands out there (we won't mention any names) that are so full of themselves that they refuse to even ackwowledge their fans. (you know, the people who are responsible for their success and their paychecks)! Anyway, we all know that our band would never act like that. On Friday night, it was rather chilly and Pete, believe it or not, ACTUALLY had on long pants. You heard it right! I took a picture, but unfortunately it didn't come out. I was gonna' get Steve to post it 'cause I knew no one would believe me. Gerry actually said during the show "Let's hear it for Pete Leonardo, I almost didn't recognize him without shorts on". Also, here is something else that I found kind of ironic. After the early show on Friday, we left the fair and drove a couple of miles north and saw this sign that said "Bradly W. Palmer State Park.....1 mile." I looked at my wife and said "now this is really strange". We drove over to the park and sure enough, there was a big sign with Brad's name on it. I got a picture of it and included it with the other pics I sent to Steve to post on the website. On Saturday I saw Brad walking around the fair between shows and I said "hey Brad, we went over to your park, it is very nice". He looked at me like I was nuts or something. Well that's it, I didn't mean to ramble here. Sounds like eveybody had a great time at the Conneticutt shows. Wish I could have been there and met some of you. If anyone is planning to go to the show in Chandler, AZ please e-mail me.


Gary H

Message: 8593 Posted: Sun Oct 17 13:28:20 1999 By: Janice
Subject: need spell check!

the word that appears in my post is not "tolerale", but tolerable..please be tolerant of inability to proof as I type! :)

Message: 8592 Posted: Sun Oct 17 13:24:09 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re: Cameras and CT..etc. etc.

You know, I never gave thought about the flash pics at a concert and I have taken my share..sorry guys..that was a great reminder..just bought a digital, as my new scanner needs Windows 98 and I don't HAVE Windows seems the digital has a flash too..hmmm..a concert without pictures?
Glad all who went had a great time in Connecticut..sounds like a lot of you went! Hopefully the pictures that were taken will be posted?
And lastly, FP, a word for you, as I could sense how hurt/angry you must feel..the story behind your posts was very touching. I for one, am guilty as the next for not "sticking with the program", and sometimes I hestitate before hitting the "enter" key. But those who know me here can either hit "skip" or indulge my corny sense of humor or banter about my kids, etc. I can assure you that you are always welcome to post here..the nicest folks anywhere are right within these chat pages. Just as the band has diverse interests outside of playing music, we, as individuals do to, and sometimes it overlaps. And it is true, that the more your name appears, perhaps the more tolerale others are to indulge "insignifant banter" or un-related material. Please give us another chance..don't go away. Friends forgive, right? Hope everyone is having a wonderful weekend, and have fun tonight, Joe! Janice :)

Message: 8591 Posted: Sun Oct 17 08:46:17 1999 By: Joe Knight
Subject: Fairfax

Hi all. Gettting ready to go see the Fairfax show tonight. Whats left of the hurricane is blowing thru here now. I guess I will just have to deal with the bad weather. This will be my 4th show this year. I hope to get to talk to Dewey and Gerry about a " Live CD" . I want them to release a 2 or 3 CD set with as many of their live songs on it as possible. Kevin was right ,they don't need a record co. anymore, they can produce the CDs themselves and sell them on the internet. ....................Joe K
Note to Steve: I have made extra copies of the photos of the Salem, Va concert but I accidently deleted your address when I was cleaning out my personal files. Please email it to me again and I will mail the photos to you. You can keep them if you want.......Joe K

Message: 8590 Posted: Sun Oct 17 01:19:16 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: last posting

Actually, America HAS been featured on Dick Bartley's show. I don't think the show featured much material past 1976. Since the show is by definition a 70s show, nothing was featured from View From The Ground, or Your Move. Then again, maybe I missed something. Did anyone else out there hear that show?

Message: 8589 Posted: Sat Oct 16 23:28:47 1999 By: FP
Subject: last posting

Hello everyone!

There has been a lot of chat about geting AMERICA into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. In addition to meeting other criteria, a band must be remembered for what they've done in the past. I don't know if this has been done in the past, maybe it is worth a try... There is a national radio show titled "Rock and Rolls Greatest Hits", hosted by Dick Bartley. This is a national show that takes requests via a toll-free number, as well as through their their web site. This show also highlights a different band or theme every week. Maybe with a little effort we could get them to do a spotlight with an America theme. Just a thought....

There has been a little controversy regarding my previous posts. I had originally decided not to post any more. I have decided to stand up for myself and put up a small defense in this my last posting.

The reasons for my posts are complex, with a LONG story behind it. It involves life, death, a promise, and friendship (and my failure to recognize how much I meant to someone until it was too late). I stumbled on this site by accident a couple months before I made my first posting. I studied the site carefully making sure there were plenty of postings not directly related to America before I made my first post(and always adding a subject so those who did not care to look could easily avoid me). You all seemed so nice, it seemed like a suitable place to vent my thoughts. THEN I was politely reminded that this was the "America Fans Chat Folder". If this were the case, I would have continued to post, for I am a fan. I may not be a groupie or as passionate as some of you all, and it has been a long time since I have seen them play, none the less, I am still a fan. It was this posting that made me realize I was wrong. You see, this is not the "America Fans Chat Folder"--that is a misnomer. See? at the top of the page it reads "America Chat Folder"! My posts did not qualify!

So, it was this combination of events that led me to stop posting my "sappy" comments. In the future, please do not refer to this room as "The America Fans Chat Folder", because this is incorrect...Maybe it should be renamed "America Chat Folder (unless you are a regular--then you can post what you want)" That way people can avoid the feeling of being ostracized that I felt.

Thank you all for listening, I bid you adieu.


Message: 8588 Posted: Sat Oct 16 23:00:33 1999 By: LisaRose
Subject: Re: 10/15/99-Van Go Gan and Connecticut Show

I once again had the pleasure to see America. I didn't mind that the usual 2 hour trip took a little over 4 hours-it was worth it. I even stayed for the second show. Gerry, if you are reading this-I just want you to know that you are as personable as you are talented. I enjoyed talking to you about VGG and Jimmy Webb. I look forward to that as well as the CD you did with Robert Lamm and Brian Wilson. Hope to see you guys again soon!

Message: 8587 Posted: Sat Oct 16 21:24:02 1999 By: JoyceHall
Subject: Re: So CA Quake

Thank You Michelle!! As a matter of fact, This was my 1st Earthquake !! Yikes, I was laying on the couch with the headphones on when all of a sudden, It felt like an amusement park ride, I thought, NOOOOOO....Can't be, But when the couch started swaying back & forth, I thought, Oh my god !! & then went to sleep ! No biggie, Thank god. Peace Everyone...Love, JOYCE---:)

Message: 8586 Posted: Sat Oct 16 18:47:27 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: 10/15/99

I'm checking with Scott at Thoughtscape Sounds to see when VGG will be released. I'll post it here just as soon as I find out.

Message: 8585 Posted: Sat Oct 16 18:24:52 1999 By: Tres'
Subject: Duh!!

OK, so I THOUGHT today was l0/l5 - duh. Anyway, so wasn't YESTERDAY the magic day? If not, when???

Message: 8584 Posted: Sat Oct 16 18:19:31 1999 By: Tres'
Subject: 10/15/99

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't today the magic VGG day??? Can I start waiting @ the mailbox w/baited breath???????

Message: 8583 Posted: Sat Oct 16 16:41:53 1999 By: Michelle
Subject: So CA Quake

Hope everyone within shaking distance of last night's quake are OK.

Message: 8582 Posted: Sat Oct 16 14:03:58 1999 By: Cathy
Subject: Re: Chat

A few of us had a really nice time in the chat room Thursday evening. I think it wound down around 10:00 pm est.

Message: 8581 Posted: Sat Oct 16 11:40:06 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: I saw the Connecticut Show !!!!!!!!!!!

Andy, thanks for sharing your experience with us. It sounds like a very typical night for the guys and they were as accomodating as they could be (as usual). Of course, a typical night for them is head and shoulders above the other bands of the world. We look forward to hearing further comments from you about the show.

Message: 8580 Posted: Sat Oct 16 02:51:28 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: I saw the Connecticut Show !!!!!!!!!!!

I just saw the Friday Connectict shows a few hous ago. I won't kill the surprise for those that have yet to see them, but I will say that I was thrilled that they included a great song called THINGS WE SAID TODAY, by some group that George Martin produced before he got a real job producing America.(only kidding...sort of..)
I briefly met Dewey and Gerry after the shows, and they were generous enough to sign my unique first album that is MISSING A Horse With No Name. Dewey even asked me if he should make the autograph out to me personally, or to just sign it without mentioning me, in case I wanted to sell the LP someday!! I tried to tell him that I'd sell my limbs before I'd ever give up that LP!!!!!!!
I'm sure that they wanted to do other things than deal with the usual people wanting their time after each show. But as is almost always the case, they were super-generous with their time and they signed autographs, posed for pictures, or just answered every question thrown at them. Gerry and Dewey, if you two read this, you guys MADE MY NIGHT!!!!!!! Oh yes, you also put on a helluva great show. I'll post more on the Connecticut shows later.

Message: 8579 Posted: Sat Oct 16 02:21:34 1999 By: ANDY

I totally agree with Jimnak, about how camera flashes could disturb the band. Personally. I'd NEVER use a flash. One can get excellent results, even in dark conditions, by using very "fast" film of around 800-1000 ASA.

Message: 8578 Posted: Sat Oct 16 00:00:01 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Cameras and CT

Please keep in mind that the use of flash can be awful tough on the band. Highly not recommended even if the venue allows it. thanks.

Message: 8577 Posted: Fri Oct 15 17:57:28 1999 By: Georgianna
Subject: Cameras and CT

Last time we went to Mohegan, we used a flash camera but the pictures were pretty bad. i guess you have to be real close!!! Unfortunately i never have the luck to get in closer since they seat you where they(Mohegan employees) want you to sit. I'd rather buy tickets and hopefully get the seat I want but I will never give up the opportunity to see Gerry and Dewey. Georgianna

Message: 8576 Posted: Fri Oct 15 11:11:57 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: No cameras, huh?

O.K. so I'll leave the camera in the car....maybe.....

Message: 8575 Posted: Fri Oct 15 08:14:55 1999 By: Maureen
Subject: Conn....

Hi all,
I, too,will be in Conn. this wekend, but only for Saturdays shows.
I was there last year. No cameras are aloud!! Its inside the casino
itself. Be very careful, even without the flash.
See ya.


Message: 8574 Posted: Fri Oct 15 07:59:37 1999 By: CHICA
Subject: Re: Ct

Hi Lisa I will also be there tonight. with My camara too.

Message: 8573 Posted: Fri Oct 15 06:56:25 1999 By: rick
Subject: Re: Aussie....

Thanks for the welcome Jeff.AMERICA fans are most welcome in oz.The
weather's hot but we promise we'll keep the beer cold for ya.

Message: 8572 Posted: Fri Oct 15 01:04:05 1999 By: ANDY

Hi Lisa, and all that will be in Connecticut. I'm going to the 8:00 show on Friday 10/15/99...I'll have a copy of the first LP with me, and I'll have my camera as well. ( No flash, of course!!!) Maybe I'll see y'all there !!!

Message: 8571 Posted: Thu Oct 14 23:29:35 1999 By: LisaRose

Andy and anyone else who will be in conn on Fri at the 8:00 show-my name is Lisa and I will be there alone and would love to meet with anyone-I will have a seat(reserved it) but not under my name-I am 5 ft. 3, about 128 pounds, have long blondish brown hair and will have a camera and be taking pics -do you want to meet up-let me know

Message: 8570 Posted: Thu Oct 14 23:21:17 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Guest Book

The America Fans guest book is now functional. It seems that the directory where the guest book was stored was write protected sometime around the end of July and so no one has been able to sign it since that time. I have moved the guest book to a different directory which is NOT write protected. Once again, I appreciate Chris for bringing it to my attention. Now Chris and the others who have tried (unsuccessfully) to sign the guest book, will be able to do so.

Message: 8569 Posted: Thu Oct 14 22:34:30 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Chat

Sorry about that, Joe. I couldn't make it until a few minutes ago (11:30 pm Eastern) and nobody's there. I've got to see if I can fix the Guest Book so I'll be working on that while I keep the live chat box up to see if any other latecomers show up.

Message: 8568 Posted: Thu Oct 14 21:56:46 1999 By: Joe Knight
Subject: Chat

Was I late or did the chat night go by without any fans? I finally got my browser upgraded and no one was there :-(.......Joe

Message: 8567 Posted: Thu Oct 14 21:55:34 1999 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Oxygen

Me too, Thanx Karen, & everybody at Oxygen!!!

Message: 8566 Posted: Thu Oct 14 21:55:22 1999 By: ANDY

Let's see...22 hours until showtime in Connecticut. I'll be going with my (somewhat) rare first album that is MISSING A Horse With No Name, just in case I come across two certain individuals...........

Message: 8565 Posted: Thu Oct 14 19:43:49 1999 By: jeff brink
Subject: Aussie....

Rick, Good to see more fans from distant lands...I've always wanted to come to Austrailia but never made close once though. Anyway, welcome to the site. J.B.

Message: 8564 Posted: Thu Oct 14 19:26:40 1999 By: Michelle
Subject: Re: Oxygen

Thanks, Karen and Oxygen!

Message: 8563 Posted: Thu Oct 14 16:54:57 1999 By: CHICA
Subject: RE: 2ND SINGLE

I have a friend in the Radio business and he tall me that if a bunch of people send faxes and call the hot radio stations requesting Wednesday morning they will play it and hopefully more people will hear it and like it enough to make it a # 1 hit I know that we are all from diferent areas of the country but if we exachange radio station phone and fax #"s we could all help each other in each area I did it with two other persons they played it but it was, We need all the fans we can get.


Message: 8562 Posted: Thu Oct 14 15:07:07 1999 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Oxygen

I agree that Oxygen has done a great job for the guys (and for all of us fans). I guess when you have a taste of something delicious you just want second helpings, and thirds and fourths and.... But if a follow up single isn't in the cards anymore, so be it. We'll just have to hope that the Oxygen / America partnership has been successful enough to keep putting out and promoting great music.

Message: 8561 Posted: Thu Oct 14 13:44:07 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Oxygen

Well put, Johnny. I would add that Oxygen gave us some live mini-concerts (e.g. Borders bookstores) and a new home for the America Fans web site. That would make it 7 out of 8.

Message: 8560 Posted: Thu Oct 14 13:17:54 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: Oxygen

I think Oxygen deserves a lot of credit. If not for Oxygen, perhaps "The Guys" wouldn't have given us "Human Nature"; an appearance on the Home Shopping Network; the segment on VH-1; a TV appearance in New York City; and "FAMT" doing so well on the Gavin Charts. Plus, this year Oxygen's parent company, King Biscuit, re-packaged America's live CD recorded in Ohio in 1982. So, thanks Oxygen for all of that! My only disappointment is not having "Wednesday Morning" as a follow-up to "FAMT". Five out of six ain't bad at all!

Welcome aboard Rick!

Message: 8559 Posted: Thu Oct 14 10:23:59 1999 By: red oak
Subject: Re: Second single/new album?

All they would need to do is go on QVC (Shopping network) with some new material and repackage their old material and they could sell
more that way than over the internet or at concerts. When the viewing public sees what their missing, they will gobble the CD's up at record pace. Plus, if Kenny Rogers, John Tesh, etc can sell on there, why not AMERICA. What does their PR people do to promote interest in AMERICA, anyway? Not much it appears. Sell, sell, sell on QVC!!!!!

Message: 8558 Posted: Thu Oct 14 10:23:35 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Guest Book

Thanks for letting me know, Chris. I guess that explains why no one has signed it since last July. I'll take a look at it tonight and see if I can figure out what is wrong.

Message: 8557 Posted: Thu Oct 14 09:54:41 1999 By: rick
Subject: aussie fan saying g'day

aussie AMERICA fan just hooked up on the net just stumbled across this website.i feel like all my christmas's have come at once.
favourie album HATTRICK favourite song MOLTEN LOVE or NO FORTUNE
(at the moment, although it tends to change).i saw in their upcoming
dates that they'll be in oz for new years eve. how exciting.

Message: 8556 Posted: Thu Oct 14 09:50:36 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re: Dewey's favorites

You mean I actually got one of your trivia questions right?? Amazing. :0

Message: 8555 Posted: Thu Oct 14 09:36:49 1999 By: CJ
Subject: Guest Book

Guest Book doesn't work??? Tried to "sign" twice but got nothing??

Thanks -

Chris - Cleveland

Message: 8554 Posted: Thu Oct 14 09:07:55 1999 By: KevinS.
Subject: Re: Second single/new album?

I think it's obvious there won't be a second single. Oxygen fired the only shot it could afford on "From A Moving Train." It almost worked.

But since Oxygen is too small to be on the radio industry radar and too limited in resources to make a difference, that leads me to wonder: Why does America need a record company at all?

Why not record on their own label, sell their CDs over the internet and at shows. I would imagine America has enough of past sales record to get distribution into retail stores.

It seems much more feasible now with the internet and how cheaply CDs can be burned.

Or maybe that's crazy talk.


Message: 8553 Posted: Thu Oct 14 08:05:39 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: Dewey's Favorites

Way to go, Janice! Janice's correct answer is "Ventura Highway" and the "Hat Trick" album. I knew this from reading John Corbett's "Comprehensive History". So, thanks John for the information. I wonder which are Gerry's favorites. That would be very interesting to know.

Message: 8552 Posted: Thu Oct 14 00:00:48 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: Johnny's trivia question

Dewey's favourite song? Why, of course, it's PIGEON SONG!.... NOT
....Obviously, I haven't a clue. It's a great question.

Message: 8551 Posted: Wed Oct 13 22:44:03 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: HN

Sorry Joe, I don't have any idea how many sold.

Message: 8550 Posted: Wed Oct 13 21:56:00 1999 By: Joe Knight
Subject: HN

Is there any way to find out how many copies HN sold? I bought 3 copies, one for each car (2) and one for the home. Does anyone know? Steve? Karen?.......thanks Joe K

Message: 8549 Posted: Wed Oct 13 20:59:18 1999 By: Dan
Subject: re: Johnny's trivia question

Company or Seasons off my favorite album Hearts

Message: 8548 Posted: Wed Oct 13 20:08:16 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re: Johnny's trivia question

Let's see..Dewey's favorite song.."Ventura Highway" and favorite album.."Hat Trick". Hmmmmm???

Message: 8547 Posted: Wed Oct 13 19:23:13 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Like A Brother CD

FYI: The Beach Boys Fan Club Hotline web page claims that this CD will be out on October 15 but I don't think that's right. Of course, we can all call Scott at Thoughtscape Sounds on the 15th and see if he's got it. There's more info to come, I'm sure.

Message: 8546 Posted: Wed Oct 13 18:51:56 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Steve - you rule!

Thanks Tres'.

Message: 8545 Posted: Wed Oct 13 17:20:51 1999 By: Tres'
Subject: Steve - you rule!

I just wanna' say...Steve, you SO rule. ANYtime ANYone has ANY question whatsoever, you are so "johnny on the spot" - even if it's repetitive. Thanks for helping us keep our ducks in a row. TTFN

Message: 8544 Posted: Wed Oct 13 13:35:23 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Like A Brother CD

Mike, quite a while ago I posted a message about this new Beckley/Lamm/Wilson CD (message #8190 on September 20) but I'll highlight the important information here for those who may have missed it. Thoughtscape Sounds will carry the new CD, "Like A Brother", as soon as it is released. Scott can't get a firm release date yet, but he'll have it just as soon as it's available. It will be $15.99 or $16.99. I think I remember reading on the Chicago folder that it would come out after the new Chicago CD, likely the first of the year. When I hear anything more concrete, I'll be sure to post it here. --Steve

Message: 8543 Posted: Wed Oct 13 11:49:12 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: Misc. and a Trivia Q.

Andy, some of us on this folder have previously discussed your trivia question about the end of "Moon Song". We came to the conclusion that it remains a mystery. Maybe someone can ask Dewey or Gerry after a concert.

Mike, regarding "Like A Brother", did I miss something? It sounds familiar but I can't recall anything about it. Can you elaborate a bit about what it's about and by whom?

Here's another trivia question for today. As a trio, which album and which song of his, is Dewey's personal favorite? Hint: his favorite song is not on his favorite album.

Message: 8542 Posted: Wed Oct 13 09:33:55 1999 By: Mark
Subject: Re: New album?

As I recall, the Oxygen deal is a "multi-album" deal. However, the American Gramphone deal that produced the OUTSTANDING Hourglass CD was also a "multi-album" deal. These "multi-album" deals are usually written so that the company has the OPTION to produce future albums, but they can also opt out on any future albums (as did American Gramaphone). The decission is usually based on sales and profits. Recording companies are businesses and they have to show a profit to keep functioning. Hopefully Human Nature will sell enough so that Oxygen will think it's worth doing a second album. But it all comes down to dollars.

Message: 8541 Posted: Wed Oct 13 09:23:12 1999 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Will There Ever Be A Second Single?

I think it's pretty obvious that there will not be a second single and that Karen is probably busy with other projects. I wish Wednesday Morning had been released as the second single. I think it would have been a hit, especially after From A Moving Train had slightly cracked the charts. But I can't fault Karen or Oxygen. I think they gave it their best shot, it's just that Oxygen is a small label and doesn't have a lot of resources or clout in the industry and the major media outlets seem to have no interest in giving new America material a chance. They seem to be content playing the classics every now and then. But let's look on the bright side. Oxygen gave us a great new America CD (plus the King Biscuit CD) and America did make a major US chart for the first time since 1984. Thanks to Karen and Oxygen for all their hardwork in promoting Human Nature. BTW, does anybody know how Wednesday Morning did as a single in Europe? I know From a Moving Train went all the way to number 1 in Spain and that Wednesday Morning also made the charts there. But I haven't heard how it did.

Message: 8540 Posted: Wed Oct 13 09:03:34 1999 By: Mike
Subject: Like A Brother CD

Does anyone know when this album will be released? When it was recorded? Thanks!

Message: 8539 Posted: Tue Oct 12 22:24:29 1999 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: Re:Moon Song Trivia

...Dewey is singing the words "I buried Gerry"....played backwards it sounds like "errgarrasshhhhezzzmaaaawhaaa"

just kidding..good question....

Message: 8538 Posted: Tue Oct 12 21:26:48 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re: Connecticut shows

Looks like quite a few of you are going! Have a great time..and we want a full report! Some pics would be nice too... :)

Message: 8537 Posted: Tue Oct 12 20:31:10 1999 By: John Lussier
Subject: New album?

Since HN is a little over a year old, does anyone know if the guys have any new material they are writing or working on? Looking at their touring schedule for the past 12 months I don't really see how they would have had much time to but one keeps hoping for that next great America cd. I'd love a live cd from this tour and/or a Christmas cd as have been mentioned in the past but I'd really love to see a brand, spanking, shiny, new cd full of great Gerry and Dewey tunes. End of 2000, perhaps? Does anyone know what their current contract with Oxygen is for in terms of numbers of albums?

John....still recovering from eating too much turkey for our Thanksgiving up here over the border.

Message: 8536 Posted: Tue Oct 12 18:35:56 1999 By: BC
Subject: Re: Homecoming.

Kevin, I absolutely agree with you. Nothing wrong with the "later stuff", but the first 3 albums are, well, they just ARE! Love the tight harmonies and the "jam" sessions. Always wondered what their sound would have been and what success they would have had if they had kept Iam Samwell around. Don't get me wrong, America is my favorite group of all time. I have every album and/or CD they have recorded. I just tend to like their 1st three albums best because of their having fun jamming acoustically. Human Nature was a step toward a more acoustic sound which I like.

Message: 8535 Posted: Tue Oct 12 18:02:28 1999 By: KevinS.
Subject: Re: DUHHHH.

But will be wearing both shoes to both shows?


Message: 8534 Posted: Tue Oct 12 17:48:42 1999 By: Georgianna
Subject: DUHHHHH!!


Message: 8533 Posted: Tue Oct 12 17:46:35 1999 By: Georgianna


Message: 8532 Posted: Tue Oct 12 17:39:59 1999 By: ANDY

o.k. So now it's my MY turn to ask some trivia: Does anyone know what they are singing on MOON SONG just a few seconds before the song fades out? No, I don't know the answer to that question. To me, it sounds something like: "errrgerraashhhhezzzmaaaawhaaa...." Any theories out there?

Message: 8531 Posted: Tue Oct 12 15:54:11 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: Will There Ever Be A Second Single?

I'm listening to "Human Nature" on cassette here in the office and it always puts me in a better mood. I still think "Wednesday Morning" would be a hit if given the chance. Being a year since "HN" was released, I wonder if there's any plans for a second single? Karen D are you on-line with us? If so, can you share with us any plans?

Message: 8530 Posted: Tue Oct 12 10:03:44 1999 By: sylvain
Subject: Any Canadian dates?

I was lucky to see America in Ottawa, Canada a few years back. Considering it was my first concert at the ripe old age of 37, it was not for lack of trying, I have been a fan since I was 16. They do not seem to come to Canada very often

Message: 8529 Posted: Mon Oct 11 23:17:41 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Bonus Tracks

I hope HOUSES IN WHITE is also included, it's one of those songs that GERRY would have written if someone else had not. All bets are that the bonus tracks will be a great warm-up & prelude to GERRY's next solo CD. A 2nd solo CD in 2000 ? all bets are on. GERRY has a lot of new material to share w/the world.

Message: 8528 Posted: Mon Oct 11 20:18:38 1999 By: Brian
Subject: Re: Bonus Tracks

It will be intresting to see which songs will be the bonus tracks. I for one would vote for "Annabelle" as one. I think that's a great song. "Houses in White" would also go on my list and maybe some songs we've never heard before. Alternate takes are also intresting to hear. Whatever they are i'm sure we won't be disappointed.

Message: 8527 Posted: Mon Oct 11 19:05:57 1999 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Bonus Tracks

I'm hoping for "Houses in White." I think it's a classic "Gerry" sound, even though he didn't write it. "Sgt. Darkness" would be an excellent choice, as would be "All My Life."
We can all hope Gerry will occassionally continue to encore with All My Life, so more of us get to hear it live.
But I would expect Gerry would put on songs that have not been previously recorded as "America" even if they are his songs, since this is a solo album. Can't wait!
ShariL <><

Message: 8526 Posted: Mon Oct 11 15:18:52 1999 By: KevinS.
Subject: Homecoming.

Cornwall Blank does it for me. But all of Homecoming is phenomenal. I agree that every note is perfect. It's hard to compare or decide which I like better between Homecoming or Hat Trick, or America for that matter. Those first three albums were as good as any I've ever heard. What humbles me is how young the three of them were, and how gifted the were at such an early age, not just to perform the work but to produce it as well. I was just starting into my early dork years when I was that age.

Going back and listening to that sound, and hearing how it changed under George Martin, sorry, but it's just not the same. I don't know if anyone else agrees, but it seemed to me that with the first three albums, America was about making awesome music. After that, it was about writing awesome songs. A subtle difference, but a difference nonetheless.

Before George, America used to jam. Riverside, Sandman, Here, Clarice, Only In Your Heart, Cornwall Blank, Hat Trick, Green Monkey--all songs where America broke out into spontanous combustion, where they broke out into a jam session.

Since George, I can only recall one America song--"Company" from Hearts--where that happened.

Again, as a testiment to how gifted they are, even when their sound changed (or expanded as some would say), they still nailed it every time.

Oh well, things change.


Message: 8525 Posted: Mon Oct 11 14:12:13 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: Additional Tracks

ShariL, yes, "Houses In White"! I had forgotten it. Gerry did re-do his America song, "I Need You", on VGG.

Message: 8524 Posted: Mon Oct 11 13:17:22 1999 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Bonus Tracks

I'm hoping for "Houses in White." I think it's a classic "Gerry" sound, even though he didn't write it. "Sgt. Darkness" would be an excellent choice, as would be "All My Life."
We can all hope Gerry will occassionally continue to encore with All My Life, so more of us get to hear it live.
But I would expect Gerry would put on songs that have not been previously recorded as "America" even if they are his songs, since this is a solo album. Can't wait!
ShariL <><

Message: 8523 Posted: Mon Oct 11 12:21:21 1999 By: ANDY

Sgt. Darkness would make an awesome bonus track!! The question is, how do you make a perfect song any better? Even Gerry would have his work cut out for him on that one! Here's another suggestion from the "dream on, you're nuts" file: how about "She's gonna let you down"? Anyway, so much for the Fantasy Hour...... Be well..

Message: 8522 Posted: Mon Oct 11 12:12:23 1999 By: ANDY

Ken, I think you're right about HOMECOMING being the best album (at least one of the best) That album is one of the closest things I've had to a religous experience. I've long since stopped keeping it in the car, because if I put just one track on, I end up staying glued inside the car until the very last note of Saturn Nights fades out. This is not the most practical record for me to have in the car, except for long trips. There isn't one single wasted note anywhere...What perfection !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Message: 8521 Posted: Mon Oct 11 11:48:58 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: Guessing The Additional "VGG" Tracks

I think it would be great if "Sgt. Darkness" and "All My Life" were
two of the four additional tracks! Any wild guesses? I'll keep a log of the guesses and we'll see who's most right.

Message: 8520 Posted: Mon Oct 11 11:16:33 1999 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Van Go Gan

Just got around to pre-ordering Van Go Gan from Thougtscape Sounds
(1-800-435-6185) and Scott told me Gerry had called him Friday, and pressing is almost done. Scott expects it any day now! All right! Order now if you haven't already done so. Anxious to see what the four bonus tracks are, and who posts them first!
Have a good week, everybody.
ShariL <><

Message: 8519 Posted: Mon Oct 11 09:04:05 1999 By: Indigoglow
Subject: Mass. Shows

Anybody go to Mass. over the weekend to see the boys. Need any reviews


Message: 8518 Posted: Mon Oct 11 07:23:23 1999 By: kmar
Subject: catching up-favorites

Hey all. Been catching up on the room. Hope all is well with everyone. I, too, think "HAT TRICK" is a very under rated project. Listening to it from start to finish is a real 'event'. My choice for best overall would be "HOMECOMING". 'Saturn Nights' still does it for me. It embodies all that hooked me on AMERICA- classic harmonies, acoustic guitar, and piano.

For any artist, the second record- especially after a highly successful first record- is 'career making' or 'career breaking'. "Homecoming" nailed it. God Bless.

Message: 8517 Posted: Mon Oct 11 02:12:16 1999 By: ANDY

To those going to the show up in Connecticut, I called the casino and found out that there will be TWO shows each night. This surprised me since the concert list that I saw on the web makes no mention of this. Let's see...two shows....I guess I'll just have to go to both of them and see which one will be better !!!!To those driving from the New York area, have a strong bladder for the journey, and tons of cash for the tolls!!!!

Message: 8516 Posted: Mon Oct 11 00:42:10 1999 By: LisaRose
Subject: Van Go Gan

Does anyone know yet what the additional four tracks are going to be?

Message: 8515 Posted: Mon Oct 11 00:41:17 1999 By: LisaRose

I will be going the first show on Friday-it is well worth the Queens to Conn ride.

Message: 8514 Posted: Sun Oct 10 08:35:06 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re"Greenhouse Trivia

You win Johnny!!! (We cared.. :) You are truly the king of trivia..!

Message: 8513 Posted: Sat Oct 09 20:30:18 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: Crazy Horse in January

Shari,the Crazy Horse is suppose to move from Santa Ana to the spectrum in Irvine (even closer to OC airport). The Crazy Horse had been primarily a venue fer Country sangers. I think it is expanding it's menu of performers. They did have a similiar set up to the famous Coach house, but not sure when they move - will post when I find out. By the way tiks are not yet on sale for AMERICA. AMERICA always sells out fast in Southern California.

Message: 8512 Posted: Sat Oct 09 19:19:16 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: "Greenhouse" Trivia Answer

Maybe no one knew the answer and/or no one cares. Anyway, I'll give the answer just the same. In the October 1987 concert in Albuquerque, Dewey said "Greenhouse" would be on their forthcoming album (which didn't materialize, as you know) called, "Two-Car Garage". I believe John Corbett mentions "Two-Car Garage" in his "Comprehensive History".

Message: 8511 Posted: Sat Oct 09 15:14:30 1999 By: CHICA
Subject: Re: Ct.

I will also be going from Manhasset, Long Island.
I will be going for the friday show.

Message: 8510 Posted: Sat Oct 09 13:11:53 1999 By: Beech
Subject: Re: Greenhouse/LONG concert Venue

Yeah, it's at my place on the lanai, around the pool!!!! No admission, BBQ after! (BYOM+PT's) I'll furnish the liquid refreshments!

Message: 8509 Posted: Sat Oct 09 13:08:54 1999 By: Beech
Subject: Re: Submarine Ladies'/Mark

Amen, Mark on the Anthology. I've always wondered about reels of tape in the WB vault myself......ALSO if there isn't any "film" stock of the guys as well. I know they did ALOT of that in the early '70's. Wouldn't it be a GEM to find? (c= }

Message: 8508 Posted: Sat Oct 09 13:04:43 1999 By: Beech
Subject: Re: Submarine Ladies'

I love those bubbles! I have to laugh, because if you tried to do it live WITH sound effects (as a one man band) think of the HASSLE!!!! If you take a GOOD deep breath in the final natural pause before the note, you can do it.........


Message: 8507 Posted: Sat Oct 09 11:33:32 1999 By: ShariL in San Diego
Subject: Crazy Horse in January

Thanks for the tip, Jim!
Is it similar to Coach House is set up? Do you have to buy dinner tickets to get the best seats? Monday night seems like a funny time for that type of venue, since Mondays are traditionally dark at performing places.
Any insight from any of you who have been there would be helpful to get the BEST SEATS!
Hope to see many of you there!
Everybody have a great weekend.
ShariL <><

Message: 8506 Posted: Sat Oct 09 09:14:25 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re: Connecicut

A true fan you are..but I imagine that it will be absolutely beautiful up there even traffic being what it will..something about fall..when you live in a place where you experience the seasons is beautiful in Georgia right now..except our t-ball game and Scout weanie/marshmallow roast is rained out..guess I'll put in a fire and enjoy the scenery. living..have a wonderful weekend, everyone!!

Message: 8505 Posted: Sat Oct 09 05:01:32 1999 By: ANDY

Is anyone planning to see either the October 15th of 16th shows in Connesticut? I'm driving up there from Long Island, NY...This will be on drive that's 1000% worth it...Even fighting awful New York traffic !!!!!

Message: 8504 Posted: Sat Oct 09 02:38:14 1999 By: Spurs
Subject: Hat Trick

Hello again,with all this talk of Hat Trick how about this,much of this album was recorded much earlier by the BBC in England as part of a live radio broadcast along with much of their first album.The BBC have throughout the years released much from their archives i.e. Dire Straits,and many others,what is interesting is the politeness of the audience after each tune there is warm applause and then on to the next tune,smashing recording.The guy that put this tape may way also gave me live recordings from Milan,Radio City,Cleveland,and very interesting to hear Dewey's comments on Prince Reignier not sure of the spelling on that one but is a big cheese in Monico.

Message: 8503 Posted: Fri Oct 08 22:17:32 1999 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Southern California show - 1/24/00

Awesome!! That sounds like a show I can definitely make. My goal for next year is to see a show somewhere besides a casino. Thanks for the info, Jim!
Erin :o)

Message: 8502 Posted: Fri Oct 08 18:44:40 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re: Crazy Horse

Crazy Horse!!..I'm flipping my lid here..I'm thinking Coach House in Capistrano!!..America has never (to my knowledge) played Crazy Horse...yes, and very near the airport...great place!!..Long ago I saw Hoyt Axton there and it was very "country"..kind of reminds me of the Grizzley Rose in Denver..a very fun place!!

Message: 8501 Posted: Fri Oct 08 18:36:16 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re: Crazy Horse

Love the shows there..sigh..I'll be out there (on vacation) beginning December 24 for 3 weeks..wish the concert was just a couple of weeks earlier..story of my life..anyway, for those of you who can make it, and I think I have mentioned this before, it is a great place to see them!

Message: 8500 Posted: Fri Oct 08 16:49:24 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: Southern California show - 1/24/00

AMERICA has two shows planned at the Crazy Horse (per tour schedule) , this venue is w/in minutes of the Orange County Airport. The Southern California shows are always a treat. May be a great show to plan a trip & perhaps warm up a bit. The crowds are unbelievable !!!
AMERICA live in Southern California !

Message: 8499 Posted: Fri Oct 08 15:40:10 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: Trivia Question

Here's a Friday trivia question: Talking about "Greenhouse", the guys performed it in October 1987 in Albuquerque. What was the name of the album that it was suppose to appear on? The answer isn't "Hourglass". This should be easy for you true-blue America fans.

Message: 8498 Posted: Fri Oct 08 13:23:29 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: Sweetwater

A band called, "Sweetwater", huh Eddy? The name, Sweetwater, reminds me of former America bass player, David Dickie. He lives in Sweetwater, Texas from what I recall reading on the folder a while back. I believe he teaches guitar.

Message: 8497 Posted: Fri Oct 08 12:18:45 1999 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Greenhouse

I saw them perform Greenhouse in '93. Really rocked and the guys looked like they a fun time performing it. It was (is) a real gem and I waited and waited for it to turn up on a cd. If they would only add to their playlist ALL of the songs we'd love to hear (of course they would be on stage for a couple of days straight!) Now wouldn't THAT be a concert.

Message: 8496 Posted: Fri Oct 08 11:17:23 1999 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: Answer for Eddie Re: VH1 -9/22

Hi Chica,
I think what your talking about is "Where are they now" in which they got a spot on, of course, it would be great to see them on Behind the music, storytellers, or any other program for that matter, I figure if VH-1 can do a whole movie on a band called "Sweetwater" (I think thats the name!) they can give AMERICA AT LEAST a 1/2 hour!
I think it's great that you e-mailed them.
All for now,

Message: 8495 Posted: Fri Oct 08 10:33:00 1999 By: Robyn
Subject: Submarine Ladies

Always thought those bubble noises were simulated sbmarine submerging noises, ala the Submarine ride at Disneyland. I could be wrong....

Message: 8494 Posted: Fri Oct 08 09:11:15 1999 By: CHICA
Subject: Answer for Eddie Re: VH1 -9/22

Eddie, VH1 did a Behinde the Music I send them an email and they responded by telling me they did it. what we need to do is request they air it again. Im responding now because I just found these chat folder. Chica

Message: 8493 Posted: Fri Oct 08 08:38:49 1999 By: CHICA
Subject: Thanks Steve & Kevin

To all of you guy's that answer My question. You realy made my day
I did not believe it cut be true . I love the ban so much that I was so afraid that if I ever met them and they acted nasty I would stop liking them that if that was the case I would have preferd not to meet them at all, thank you so much, I will be going to Mohegan Sun on friday to see them. Thanks Again . And Steve have a Great vac. Chica

Message: 8492 Posted: Fri Oct 08 08:32:43 1999 By: Indigoglow
Subject: Hat trick

Cast my vote for Hat trick as the numero uno America tune. I would go bonkers if they ever played that live. I think they may need Dan Peek for that one,however.

Message: 8491 Posted: Fri Oct 08 08:19:05 1999 By: Mark
Subject: Re: Submarine Ladies'

Submarine Ladies is one of my favorite songs off Hat Trick. However, I like the earlier version of it, found on the "bootleg" CD Heard even better. While the sound quality on Heard is only so-so, the performances are great, especially Submarine Ladies. It is my understanding that after America finished recording their first album, Ian Samwell had them go back into the the studio because he thought the album lacked a big hit single to capture the public's attention. They recorded four more songs two of which were released on a 45 single, Horse With No Name and the original version of Everyone I Meet is From California. Two other songs were recorded, I have been told that one of them was an early version of Submarine Ladies performed in a fashion similar to the one found on Heard. I have yet to find out what the fourth song was. Just makes me wish WB and Capitol would do a box set or at least a double CD anthology; because I'm sure their archives are full of unreleased gems and alternate versions.

Message: 8490 Posted: Fri Oct 08 06:55:29 1999 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Greenhouse

Would you believe Gerry and Dewey were playing Greenhouse
early as 1986. Tune has been around a long time. But they stop
playing it in the early 90's I believe :0)

Message: 8489 Posted: Fri Oct 08 06:25:35 1999 By: Spurs
Subject: Hat Trick ,Greenhouse.

Hello all,I have to agree with everyones thoughts on Hat Trick,this is a summer album if ever there was one,particularly on those real scorchers.I beleive Greenhouse was mentioned the other day,what a top notch tune it is I'd love to see the guys perform this one in concert again with that bassline and organ super stuff.Glorious spring weather down under,and America appearing in December roll on summer!

Message: 8488 Posted: Fri Oct 08 00:23:43 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: Submarine Ladies'

Robyn, you're absolutely right about that sustained note in Submarine Ladies...I've occasionally tried playing that song on an acoustic guitar at local open-mics and coffee houses, and that sustained note usually trips me up. Besides, that song misses something without the joker who is blowing bubbles!!! By the way... can ANYONE explain the idea behind those bubbles?! Who's the joker that thought of that? Who's blowing those bubbles? Regardless, Submarine Ladies is masterpiece!!!!

Message: 8487 Posted: Thu Oct 07 20:50:37 1999 By: CJ
Subject: What's the point. . .

What's the point of having a live chat room if nobody visits??? I visit early & often on Thurdays only to find no one home. If you're checking in and checking out (kinda like AC on Friday night), you might miss someone good!! Unfortunately, even in this internet world, chat room connections are not instantaneous for everyone and hanging out is required. I frequent a chat room 2 nights a week for another band and we've blown up a motherboard or 2 on the server trying to cram people in (usually 10-20).

Hang out, you never know who might be lurking. . .

Chris - Cleveland

Message: 8486 Posted: Thu Oct 07 19:12:25 1999 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Hat Trick.

The end of one journey the beginning of a new adventure Kevin! ( I am something of an optimist!)

Message: 8485 Posted: Thu Oct 07 19:10:37 1999 By: Dragoness
Subject: The last unicorn

I'm looking for an mp3 or a sound byte of any of the america songs off of the movie. If you have some or know of some, please email me.

Message: 8484 Posted: Thu Oct 07 18:52:47 1999 By: KevinS.
Subject: Hat Trick.

Hat Trick is a hidden gem. For America, it was an end of an era.


Message: 8483 Posted: Thu Oct 07 17:17:47 1999 By: Dan
Subject: thanks

By the way, thanks Steve for straightening me out with my ID problem. Its taken care of and I appriciate the prompt response. You've got to be a hell of a nice dude to put your time into this page and the things you do for our favorite band. later, Dan

Message: 8482 Posted: Thu Oct 07 17:12:50 1999 By: Dan
Subject: Beach Boy covers

Two songs I'd like for America to cover would be Sloop John B or Sail On Sailor. It would be a difficult task to take on even for these multi-talented guys. Its tragic that Carl is not still around to lend his talented and beautiful voice to such an endeavor. Lets hear it though for the best America album in my humble opinion; HEARTS. Keep rockin. Dan was here.

Message: 8481 Posted: Thu Oct 07 17:06:00 1999 By: Dan
Subject: Re: test


Message: 8480 Posted: Thu Oct 07 17:04:33 1999 By: Dan
Subject: test


Message: 8479 Posted: Thu Oct 07 16:28:17 1999 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: "Muskrat Love" and "Hat Trick" LP

Submarine Ladies, with that final sustained note.... AWESOME then and now!

Message: 8478 Posted: Thu Oct 07 16:26:34 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: Re: "Muskrat Love" and "Hat Trick" LP

Well,I half agree with Johnny. If I HAD to listen to Muscrat Love, I'll take America's version any day. For me, the Hat Trick album will always be a treasure because it has the absolute, all time, 100000% greatest-ever America song: HAT TRICK! (In my lowly opinion).By the way, isn't Gerry singing SHE'S GONNA LET YOU DOWN to die for????

Message: 8477 Posted: Thu Oct 07 16:00:29 1999 By: Robyn
Subject: Steve

NEVER TELL THE COMPUTER YOU ARE GOING ON VACATION!!!!The last few times, it decided while the cat was away, the mouse would play!

Seriously, have a great one. I too am going on vacation for a week!!! I will be back on 10/19. Hopefully, by then, my very own copy of Van Go Gan will be waiting for me. Anyone know if Gerry is signing them like he did last time? That would be too cool!

Message: 8476 Posted: Thu Oct 07 15:30:25 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: "Muskrat Love" and "Hat Trick" LP

Like Steve, I've always liked "Muskrat Love" performed by America. The background vocals are superb. Captain and Tennille (Toenail, as Howard said Dewey called them) never bothered me with their version. As a matter of fact, as we all discussed before, the whole "Hat Trick" album is wonderful! I really like the unique album cover. It's sort of a "View INTO The Ground". The Western concept is very cool. The two-sided poster is great. I still get a chuckle when I look at the poster with Dewey, Gerry, and Dan sitting on the ground in the desert. Like "Hideaway" and many other of their albums, Gerry has his tennis shoes it near the snow, in a grassy valley, in the desert, or by the oceanside. He loves his tennies!

Steve: Hope you have a great vacation! You deserve it.

Message: 8475 Posted: Thu Oct 07 12:53:38 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Whew...

This has been a busy Chat Folder since the last time I checked it. By the way, I'm on my way out the door for a 4 day vacation so I may or may not check in during that time. I'll have my laptop with me, but if I'm having too much fun, forget the laptop!

Chica, I believe that the question about Dewey and Gerry accomodating people has been adequately answered, but let me add my support to the preceding answers. I have NEVER met a band so nice and so friendly as America. I was thinking about this a few days ago and it occurred to me that I really like America's songs, but there are other groups whose songs I like, too. So what sets America apart and why do I maintain a web page for them and why do I get so involved with them? It's because of the kind of people that they are. They are down-to-earth and don't make their fans feel like they are condescending when they talk to us. That's what sets them apart from many other performers.

Andy, you're right about Daisy Jane not being a real person and I think you're on the right track about Sarah, too.

Johnny and Howard, are you guys giving me a hard time again about liking Muskrat Love. I'll confess again, I like the version by C&T but I love the version by America. Of course, to me it's not the C&T song that America did, but the other way around.

BungeeAZ, I can't even imagine Gerry and Dewey stage diving, but it did give me a good chuckle. I guess you can get that tongue out of your cheek now.

Finally, to Scott, I don't know if anyone knows exactly what Sgt. Darkness is about but it has been mentioned before on this chat folder that it was either written during a bout with insomnia or possibly written about insomnia. Personally, I've never heard Gerry say what it means, so I guess we can give it our own meaning. Even without knowing what it means, it's a great song!

That's all for now. I'm off for the weekend and will be back on Monday.


Message: 8474 Posted: Thu Oct 07 12:18:39 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: Sealed Homecoming/ Sargent Darkness

Hi Scott. Personally, I don't need another copy of HOMECOMING since I have four already. I bought the first one, and promptly wore it out. The next three were bought so that I could properly decorate my dorm in school. Remember that the inner sleave has a great shot of all three guys, and the front cover is also a great picture. I thought this was a nice way to decorate during a time when most posters at school displayed Boy George ( GAG ME!!!! ) or some other new wave poop act. As for Sargent Darkness, I would also love to know what it's about. Even by America's and Gerry's own ultra-high standards, that tune is one of the most shockingly beautiful and haunting songs....EVER !!! I have no idea what it's about. Does anyone out there have a clue? For all I know it could be about a door--knob. Who knows? Gerry has the ability to write a masterpiece...about anything, and inspired from almost nothing. I could be wrong, but I seem to remember him saying that DAISEY JANE was not about a real person. Also, in 1983, I had a chance to ask Gerry what his song SARAH was about. I think he said it was more a reflection about his state of mind at the time, and not really about any single individual. My memory is a little cloudy since I was so totally nervous and overwhelmed from just meeting Gerry and Dewey in person, that I was trying to focus on simply NOT FAINTING.

Message: 8473 Posted: Thu Oct 07 12:11:48 1999 By: Beech
Subject: Re:/Ilk/

Uh, HUH. SUUUUUUUUREEEEE, Steve.............=-P
(He's actually hiding the keys to the internet's conciousness and WON'T GIVE THEM (c; Anyhoo, Thanks for the RE: Steve!

Message: 8472 Posted: Thu Oct 07 11:50:09 1999 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Re: Johnny/Questions not to ask

Johnny, as Dewey would say introducing Muskrat Love,

Here's a song in which the Captain and Toenail recorded...

Message: 8471 Posted: Thu Oct 07 11:26:23 1999 By: Robyn
Subject: name sharing,etc...

Well said as usual Kevin

The answer to my question was sort of a trick one. It's Caroline ( asin "Caroline is Falling in an out of love") and the classic BB tune from Pet Sounds "Caroline, No"

Mosh Pit, mBluLight? Nothing like a little crowd surfing.

Message: 8470 Posted: Thu Oct 07 11:03:35 1999 By: Indigoglow
Subject: Re; To Chica

Your friend does not know what they are talking about. Gerry and Dewey couldn't be more accommidating then they are. I was in AC on Friday and talked to them after the show and was at the bar for hours after the show rappin' with them. Tell your friend not to make statements they can't back up . And never 'dis our boys-Gerry and Dewey.


Message: 8469 Posted: Thu Oct 07 11:01:25 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: Re: Questions Not To Ask

Kevin, I liked your "questions not to ask"! Maybe others can come up with additional ones. Here's one more: How come you guys didn't play that Captain and Tennille song?

Message: 8468 Posted: Thu Oct 07 10:49:54 1999 By: Indigoglow
Subject: Re; To Chica

Your friend does not know what they are talking about. Gerry and Dewey couldn't be more accommidating then they are. I was in AC on Friday and talked to them after the show and was at the bar for hours after the show rappin' with them. Tell your friend not to make statements they can't back up . And never 'dis our boys-Gerry and Dewey.


Message: 8467 Posted: Thu Oct 07 09:55:09 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: Re: To Chica.

AMERICA is always accommodating their fans. What Kevin said is absolutely true. When they do 150+ shows per year, they are frequently under a very tight travel schedule & their road manager is always trying to keep everyone on schedule. In addition their time gets consumed w/sponsors, TV/radio interviews, venue management, etc., so they are on the run quite a bit. Even so they go WAY out of their way to take care of their fans on stage & off. They work real hard to take care of all their fans, consistently.

Message: 8466 Posted: Thu Oct 07 09:44:50 1999 By: KevinS.
Subject: To Chica.


I've seen America in concert over 25 times in my life. You ask whether Gerry and Dewey are nice to their fans. Let me give you my experiences with them, and you decide.

About 17 years ago, they were playing a concert in Indianapolis. After the show, Gerry announced that they were staying at the Holiday Inn down the road from the concert and invited anyone who was interested to stop by. I did. Where I got to to not only meet Gerry, Brad Palmer (bass player), Willie Leacox (drummer) and Michael Woods (lead guitarist), but I also had drinks with them and talked to them.

They have done this kind of thing a number of times since then. Inviting fans over to their "house" on the road. Name me one other band that has done that.

Time after time since then, they make themselves available after shows to sign autographs, let you get your picture taken with them, and just chat. All this AFTER they've just taken a gruelling plane ride across the country, raced to get to the venue, exhausted after a non-stop schedule of twelve cities in twelve states in twelve nights, then giving a flawless performace in stage, with very little sleep.

How friendly are most people when they just get off work? These guys are not only civil, they're as accommodating as any people I've ever heard of.

Hardly a week goes by when someone on this chat folder doesn't have a story of running into them before or after a show and being taken back by how warm, engaging and real they are.

So, you decide. I'm not going to tell you or your friend how to think. I can only tell you what I and countless others have experienced. After that, you have to draw your own conclusions.

The reality is, nobody can be nice 24/7. I'm sure even Mr Rogers has a bad day in the neighborhood once in a while. So maybe your friend caught them at a bad time. Or maybe your friend said something to them that pissed them off.

Here's a list of things past experience has taught me not to say to musicians:

"Hey, you guys suck."
"I thought you were dead."
"Weren't you one of the Village People?"
"Can I borrow a million dollars?"
"Are you Millie or Vanillie?"
"I could write better songs than you."
"Have you ever thought about a career in aluminum siding."
"Are you the guys who sing "Achy Breaky Heart'?"
"Is that smell coming from you?"
"Do you know Doctor Kervorkian?"
"Hey, you look like Keith Richards."


Message: 8465 Posted: Thu Oct 07 09:18:40 1999 By: BungeeAZ
Subject: Response to response to BungeeAZ

One of the rowdiest crowds I have hever seen at a concert was not Slayer, but at the America show. People were gaping in awe as Jerry and Dewey were stagdiving into the crowd ;)

Nevertheless, Russ Ballard has written many songs for several decades now. With the Zombies and Argent but he has also written 2 hits for Ace Frehley from KISS. One was NY Groove, the other was Into the Night from Frehley's Comet in 1984.

I have tried to play metal on acoustic guitar, it's fun. You just can't strum like Jewel.

Message: 8464 Posted: Thu Oct 07 08:36:43 1999 By: CHICA
Subject: ? to Steve

Hi Steve, just wanted to ask if is true that GERRY & DEWEY are not nice to their fans my best friend said that she notice when he went to
Atlantic City this past weekend how Gerry could not be botter with his fans, that he did not want to go and get his autograph, I can't beleive it. please say is not so. He told me that if I still wanted to love them it was best not to me them if I did not wanted to be disapointed.
thanks, Chica

Message: 8463 Posted: Thu Oct 07 07:33:24 1999 By: Scott
Subject: Sealed Homecoming LP

Hi, guys. In case anybody's interested, I'm offering up a sealed copy of "Homecoming" LP on ebay. Thought I'd never let it go, even when the CDs came out several years ago, but I think it's time.

Would also love to hear from anyone who can explain "Sergeant Darkness" to me.



Message: 8462 Posted: Thu Oct 07 01:41:47 1999 By: mBluLight
Subject: Re: Response to BungeeAZ

actually I seem to remember hearing something about a mosh pit at some Colorado show...


Message: 8461 Posted: Thu Oct 07 00:49:45 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: Response to BungeeAZ

I'm far from the best authority, especially on these pages...but I'm sure that whatever Gerry and Dewey chose to cover would by an improvement over the original version! Maybe the boys should try covering Heavy Metal, like KISS or Black Sabbath. Can you imagine a mosh pit at an America concert? Okay, I'm only kidding..But, if you think about it, America has done awesome covers of other artists: California Dreaming, Head and Heart to name a few. Also, after Dan left the group in 1977, they started to record songs written by other artists much more frequently. Have you noticed that the early 80s turned into a Russ Ballard fest? ( A very good one, in my humble opinion. )

Message: 8460 Posted: Wed Oct 06 22:49:32 1999 By: BungeeAZ
Subject: Response to Andy

ANDY, do you think that America can cover other artist's music? What are your thoughts?

Message: 8459 Posted: Wed Oct 06 20:59:23 1999 By: JoyceHall
Subject: Re: Thanks Steve

Hey Steve, I just wanted to say Thanks for a great web site, I always enjoy coming by & checking out the current photos & posts! & your always a help anytime I need to ask for help on some thing's, You always get right back to me. I appreciate you ! Thanks, Love, JOYCE ---:)

Message: 8458 Posted: Wed Oct 06 19:23:09 1999 By: red oak
Subject: name sharing

Or maybe California Girl

Message: 8457 Posted: Wed Oct 06 19:22:10 1999 By: red oak
Subject: name sharing

Is the answer Wendy?

Message: 8456 Posted: Wed Oct 06 18:39:12 1999 By: Tres'
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday, Tres'

Thanx Girlfriend! Thanx to all for their well wishes. Feeling like a "fine wine" today. Thanx to America and to Steve for this Chat room giving me the opp to meet so many new friends. Life is SO grand! Off to have a marguerita or two and some America tunes to celeb what's left of my day!

Message: 8455 Posted: Wed Oct 06 18:24:04 1999 By: Robyn
Subject: May I add

my kudos to the list. Congrats on the very sucessful page Steve. Always up to the minute with good useful and FUN information! The webmaster from should take a page from your book, IMHO.

Isn't anyone going to answer my EASY Beach Boys/America triv question, I reiterate--What "girl" do the Beach Boys and America share?

Message: 8454 Posted: Wed Oct 06 18:09:21 1999 By: jeff brink
Subject: Baseball and America

Thank you Mr. Burgess for responding to my post concerning "Magic". One of the two times that I've seen America was after a Columbus Clippers (AAA Yankees team) baseball game.

As far as the posting of things other than America on the folder...I don't think a little of it hurts. Besides, it's a way for America fans to see that they may have other things in common and are'nt just one dimensional in their thinking...

Message: 8453 Posted: Wed Oct 06 18:06:34 1999 By: gary
Subject: Thanks Steve

Howdy America Fans,

Well we are heading up to Boston in the morning to the Topsfield Fair. The guys will be doing 2 shows on Friday and Saturday. It is an outdoor venue and it is suppose to be c-o-l-d!! (anything under 40 deg. is cold for a South Texas Boy). Anyway as usual, I will file a full review along with pictures.

Steve. Congradulations on your 100,000th hit. You have done an absolutely fantastic job on this site and all of us really appreciate your efforts. Next time I see you and Janell, I'm gonna' treat 'yall to a big 'ol steak dinner.


Gary H

Message: 8452 Posted: Wed Oct 06 17:50:44 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re: Fish story

Steve..they'll let you rent one if you smile real big for the camera and promise to give it back. Give it back now, Dewey. (I'm just jeolous because of the "loser day" my son and I had in "Destin..the Luckiest Fishing Village in the World"..the fish were jumping alright..just not on to our hooks! Smart fish.

Message: 8451 Posted: Wed Oct 06 17:22:32 1999 By: Beth
Subject: What I Thought Was

What if our FP (Phantom Friend) is actually Gerry or Dewey in disguise?
That's what I've been thinking but of course would never say. No wars, here, man. We're just sharing opinions! It's what makes us great. Altho, you could try a softer touch if you're not out to hurt feelings, maybe. I'm a little hurt, but that's just me. I get defensive pretty quick. I will also get over it soon, too.
Stay tuned,

Message: 8450 Posted: Wed Oct 06 16:17:37 1999 By: Brandon Rose
Subject: What I Said Was, "This Is The..."

Who said all we thought or wrote about was America? What I said was... "This is the America Fans Chat Folder." I visit here a few times a week and enjoy the America stuff everyone shares. Isn't that the point of this place? Why should someone CONTINUALLY post something that doesn't pertain to the point of this place and the defense is, "Hey, if you don't like it skip over it." Why should I have to? I understand EVERYTHING posted here isn't always entirely about America. But to post subject matter over and over that doesn't have anything to do with America is a little absurd. How about going to the "Friends are... Bulletin Board" and posting that stuff there. My intentions are NOT to hurt anyone's feelings or start a war.


Message: 8449 Posted: Wed Oct 06 15:47:25 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: Re: Prizes/Ilk/Fish

Congratulations, Nick, for being Mr. 100,000. I can see that the excitement really got to you since it affected your typing. The home page should have credited $100,000 to your local bank account. If it didn't work, I guess it must have a bug in it.

Tery, you're not being picked on for using a MAC. I have a way of putting special HTML codes into the chat folder posts and that's how I get the font colors and italics. I wish I could come up with a way to allow all of you to do it automatically but there's not an easy way. Of course, you can always send a mail message to me and I can insert colors and italics into your existing messages.

Janice, I must have missed that tag on the fish. I'll go take a closer look. Do you think they would rent one to me?


Message: 8448 Posted: Wed Oct 06 15:37:08 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re:100,000 hits..

Well, being the swell sport that I am, think I'll just zap this post in a few times to make sure I win! Lol..Great job, Steve, really. And as for the fish picture..hmmmm..Dewey..what is that tag hanging off the fish?..I think it says Pete's Rent a Fish??

Message: 8447 Posted: Wed Oct 06 15:00:19 1999 By: Nick
Subject: America

Oops. That's Mr. 100,000. I guess I don't get a prize for typing!

Message: 8446 Posted: Wed Oct 06 14:59:06 1999 By: Nick
Subject: America

Just call me Mr. 1000,000! Is there a prize?

Message: 8445 Posted: Wed Oct 06 14:14:13 1999 By: Beech
Subject: Formatting and the ilk

Hey Steve?

How do YOU get pix and different fonts with color and ITALICS in you messages? Is it because you're the man with the plan here, or is it because I'm a MAC user? Just wanna know.....(lol)
(c= }


Message: 8444 Posted: Wed Oct 06 14:12:14 1999 By: Beech
Subject: Re: FP

I agree, Beth.....We're all here because of America but we don't all think about 100% of the day.....It's kind of like TV. If you don't like the show, skip over it......Diversity is the spice,,,,(c=

Message: 8443 Posted: Wed Oct 06 13:56:55 1999 By: Indigoglow
Subject: Happy B'day Tres"

Didn't know today was your actual birthday. Anyway, HAPPY BIRTHDAY from the guys and mom from NJ. I know you had a good birthday weekend so you might as well continue tonite. Not too many Margaritas though,it's a weeknight.

Message: 8442 Posted: Wed Oct 06 13:40:19 1999 By: CJ
Subject: Happy Birthday, Tres'

Hey "Sharon #1". . .

It's my pleasure to wish you a very Happy Birthday, my best friend!! Although the Birthday Fun was wrapped up in a totally awesome weekend in Atlantic City, today's the "Official Day"!!

You're the best friend anyone could ever have - you'll try just about anything once and that's one of the things I love about you most!! Without your fondness for America, I'm not sure I'd have caught on to a most wonderful thing. Thank you!

I am blessed by having you for a friend and we, together, are truly blessed! We have each other, our families, friends, fellow America Fans and fellow America Friends and I'm sure everyone joins me in wishing you a most Happy Birthday!!

Love Always,
"Sharon #2"

Message: 8441 Posted: Wed Oct 06 13:35:36 1999 By: Robyn
Subject: Beach Boys Redux/ Christmas CD

Nice to hear that Brian is touring again. He more than any exemplifies the line between genius and madness. As A California Girl, the Beach Boys were an integral part of summer, like the taste of Watermelon, or the smell of suntan lotion. Not for everyone, as some of the posts have indicated! Thanks, everyone, for answering.

Any new America CD would be a welcome one. My favorite would be Good King Wenceslaus. Nice opportunity for harmony. Not entirely a "Christmas" tune per se, but one that reminds us of the charity toward others of any of the winter holidays you might celebrate!

Now an easy Beach Boys/America question. What girl do they share?

Message: 8440 Posted: Wed Oct 06 13:10:59 1999 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Christmas CD????????

A Christmas Cd would be great. I'd love to hear them come up with some original Christmas tunes as well as a the ol' standards.

Message: 8439 Posted: Wed Oct 06 13:06:50 1999 By: Michelle
Subject: Re: Christmas CD????????

If there's one thing I can't resist, it's Christmas music. My albums come out in October so that I can play them while putting together handmade gifts for family & friends. Mitch Miller, Andy Williams, Oak Ridge Boys, Brady Bunch(!?!?!?)...anything and everything.
I would LOVE to add an America Christmas album to my collection. Gerry performing "Silent Night" and Dewey on "Little Drummer Boy"...those would be two of my picks.

Message: 8438 Posted: Wed Oct 06 11:38:51 1999 By: Indigoglow
Subject: Christmas CD

At least we know they can't call it "Holiday"

Message: 8437 Posted: Wed Oct 06 11:37:26 1999 By: KevinS.
Subject: Redoing Beach Boys songs.

It's not a Beach Boys song I'd like to see America redo, it's an America song. On Hourglass they redid "You Can Do Magic" and "California Revisited." I'd like to see America redo "Falling Off The World." It was a tragic song with so much potential to really rock and stick to the roof of your soul, yet it fell victim to the polyester production of K-tel drum machines and other glossy 80s affectations. Could you imagine how that song would cook if the band did it. I'd love to hear it live. Another "Even The Score" or "Green Monkey" or "Greenhouse." Lyrically, that song is another Dewey masterpiece. Haunting, and almost unbearably sad as it seemed to be an honest autobiographical assessment of where he and the band were at the time. What a great song.


Message: 8436 Posted: Wed Oct 06 11:12:21 1999 By: Virginia
Subject: Milestone/Christmas CD

Way to go, Steve! Your America Fan Page and the Chat Folder are my favorite places on the web. Glad to have contributed to many of those almost 100,000 hits.

Regarding the Christmas CD, all I have to say is Hallelujah! (Notice that that starts with the letter "H".)

Message: 8435 Posted: Wed Oct 06 11:08:14 1999 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: A Milestone Will Be Reached Today

So, if you're the lucky 100,000th does money come flying out of the disk drive?

Congrats and thanks Steve for a great site!

Message: 8434 Posted: Wed Oct 06 10:52:48 1999 By: Indigoglow
Subject: Christmas CD????????

In AC on friday I told Gerry that I enjoyed their version of "Hark the Herald Angels Sing" which can be found on a charity cd they did in 1995 and on "Heard". He thanked me and they told me that they were in the process of making one. I asked him if we would have it by this Christmas. He yelled over to Dewey who said NO WAY. Well, just wanted to know what everybody thinks about an America Christmas CD, I think it would be GREAT.

Message: 8433 Posted: Wed Oct 06 10:12:16 1999 By: AmericaSL
Subject: A Milestone Will Be Reached Today

Good morning everyone. Today the America Fans main home page will reach a milestone. Sometime during the day it will have its 100,000th hit, and it could happen fairly soon. The main page usually averages over 200 hits a day and as of last night the total count was over 99,800. I just checked the counter a few minutes ago and it was at 99,905 which means it will reach the 100,000 mark after 95 more hits. I want to thank all of you America Fans for making the web site the success that it is. Sure, I spend a lot of time and effort putting it together, but it's your input and contributions that keep it going. That's why it truly is the America Fans web site. Go ahead and check it out and while you're there, take a look at the photos from Dewey's recent fishing trip in Florida. The link to the photos is the first one in the "What's New" section.

Have a nice day everyone!


Message: 8432 Posted: Wed Oct 06 08:46:33 1999 By: EDDY
Subject: Dewey/Chris- Fishing


Message: 8431 Posted: Wed Oct 06 02:02:24 1999 By: JoyceHall
Subject: Dewey/Fishing Photos...

Hello, well I just wanted to say, That I just viewed the
photos of Dewey & his brother fishing & all I can say is,
It's really nice to see Dewey, who is in 1 of the hardest
working bands around, having some fun !!---You go

Message: 8430 Posted: Wed Oct 06 02:00:23 1999 By: JoyceHall
Subject: Dewey/Fishing Photos...

Hello, well I just wanted to say, That I just viewed the photos of Dewey & his brother fishing & all I can say is, It's really nice to see Dewey, who is in 1 of the hardest working bands around, having some fun !!---You go Dew--:)--JOYCE

Message: 8429 Posted: Wed Oct 06 00:10:38 1999 By: Brian
Subject: Re: Beach Boys/America Cover

Brian Wilson is touring. He opens a west coast tour starting in Seattle on Oct. 15th. He finished a very triumphant return to touring in June. He played some dates this spring in the Chicao area and then some east coast dates and Japan. He and his band got rave reviews. Jeff Foskett ( friend of America and former Beach Boy ) is the bands leader and from what i'm told is just fantastic. As far as covers go there are some songs that are just untouchable for example "God Only Knows". That's perfection. Beach Boys Family and Friends ( Al Jardine and the Wilson girls ) and Mike Love's Beach Boys ( Mike Love and Bruce Johnston )are not bad shows to see but things will never be the same without Carl. Brian is playing Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Las Vegas, LA. This could be a once in a lifetime chance to see Brian play his music with such an excellent band. I'm going to see him in Seattle and I can't wait.

Message: 8428 Posted: Tue Oct 05 22:35:56 1999 By: Beth
Subject: FP

I, for one, had no trouble reading Friend's posts. Yeah, so they weren't directly America related. Wooops. I've been guilty of not sticking to the direct subject, myself. I don't normally get in to the opinion exchange here, but had to put my two cents in. And you know what, if I don't wanna read someone's message, that scroll bar works pretty darn good. You can even use it on this message, if you want!
Stay tuned, Friends.

Message: 8427 Posted: Tue Oct 05 21:41:13 1999 By: Robert Burgess
Subject: To: Jeff (Baseball and America)


In response to your Baseball and America posting. I just wanted to let you know that the Baltimore Orioles used "You Can Do Magic" as their theme song for the 1983 season. We have great taste here in Baltimore if I may say so myself!

Message: 8426 Posted: Tue Oct 05 18:51:50 1999 By: jeff brink
Subject: Baseball and America

Does anyone remember back in the 80's when St. Louis was in the Playoffs or series...Daryl Porter was the catcher for the Cardinals and at the end of one of the games while the credits were running they were showing highlights of Porters feats and "You can do magic" was playing, Implying that Daryl Porter was "the one who can put out the fire"....

Message: 8425 Posted: Tue Oct 05 17:35:13 1999 By: Janice
Subject: Hi Tom!!

Glad to see your post! You know, you mentioned all of my favorite artists too..Bread of course being one of my all time favorites..I saw them last summer, all the original members..still have my original vinyls (protected)..they still sounded wonderful. Beach Boys? I have to agree with your choice of In My Room..although I have many favorites by them, growing up by the beaches in Calif. during the 70's,their music really takes me back..sigh..then there was this REALLY wonderful group of guys called America..I've been a fan ever since the first time I heard Horse..see Johnny? I can talk about other stuff besides baseball..

Message: 8424 Posted: Tue Oct 05 17:29:35 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: Cathy: Happy Anniversary To You, Too

Regarding Cathy's post #8397: Yes, Cathy, Happy Anniversary! Us folks in New Mexico rarely get to see "The Guys". So, any event by America in this State is a special treat, indeed. A year ago, the only autograph I had of Dewey and Gerry was on the back of the 1982 "Akamanjo" postcard. I never would have guessed that a year later, I'd have Dewey's autograph on three items and Gerry's autograph on five! Two of those items are black and white photos. One is of Dewey and the other is of Gerry. Each are autographed in gold ink thanks to that great guy named Ike Gauley who sent them to me! Plus, of course, getting to meet Dewey, Gerry, Willie, Woodz, and Brad!! And then there's all you great folks on this folder that I've met. Wow, what a year it's been!

Message: 8423 Posted: Tue Oct 05 17:16:10 1999 By: Tom T.
Subject: Beach Boy Cover/ Other Covers!!!?

Howdy! Long time-no chat! "In My Room" is my personal choice! I think it's one of the finest songs ever written. Since so many folks have gotten worked up about the lack of AMERICA chat I thought I would add to the mix. I recently got a copy of The Double CD set of BREAD. I believe it's an Anthology. Don't you get a kick out of listening to songs that you haven't heard for a long time and you realize just how amazing they really are?! In many reviews of AMERICA's recorded works during the 70's they were often compared to CSN&Y, England Dan & John Ford Coley, Firefall, and BREAD. Let's face it, not all songwriters are the modern day equivelent to Mozart, Bach etc... but the 70's mellow rockers were really terrific!!! David Gates could really write some great tunes! "If" has to be one of the absolute finest Love songs ever written! When I was younger, I thought it was wimpy. But now it kinda chokes me up. I guess I've turned into an old wimp! LOL! How about other tunes by various artists that could(and should) be covered by Gerry And Dewey? It would make for a great cover album!!! Let's about a James Taylor tune, a Beatles tune, Gordon Lightfoot, Simon and Garfunkel, Bob Dylan, Cat Stevens, oh well-whatever...I'm just in a ramblin' ramblin' ramblin' mood! Keep On Smiling :-) Tee Tee Salutations to all My Chat Folder Friends!!! Believe it or not, I've missed y'all! BuhBye

Message: 8422 Posted: Tue Oct 05 16:21:11 1999 By: CHICA
Subject: back stage passes

Hello, Im a big fan of america and will be going to Ct. in two weeks
and will like to get to meet the gerry, dewey,willy and brad.
i just found out of this chat folder and it sounds as if you guys can help me. am so happy to know that theirs so many fans.
"help CHICA

Message: 8421 Posted: Tue Oct 05 16:01:26 1999 By: Tres'
Subject: Re: to CJ & Tres'

Pictures!?!?! There were pictures????? Guess I was having WAY too much there such a thing??? Yes, home safe and sound...still relishing in the afterglow of a totally wonderful birthday weekend. It was wonderful meeting all of you; you're Mom is THE best! Sat. a.m. was not so much fun...took a while to get my bearings; but that "hair of the dog" did the trick (oh, and the whopping $5.25 I won w/slots! - livin' on the edge I am). Besides, we had to be in top form for Sat. nite's performance. In lieu of the tres' awesome wknd. we had, I could Never complain of lack of sleep. Life is STILL grand! Chris - I'll t/c/o t/c/o Pitt. Sorry you guys didn't make it Sat. nite. Tell all 'hey' and take care. TTFN

Message: 8420 Posted: Tue Oct 05 14:19:06 1999 By: Indigoglow
Subject: cj-web site

pretty impressive web page.I didn't realize we were in the presence
of such an important person. But we're all the same when it comes to being an America Groupie.

Message: 8419 Posted: Tue Oct 05 14:04:53 1999 By: CJ
Subject: Re: to CJ & Tres'

Made it home just fine - 8 1/2 hours later (or more) - I was one hurtin' little puppy but only from a complete lack of sleep!!! I think I got a total of 8 hours from 4:00a.m. Friday 'til bedtime on Sunday (sleeping on the floor on Saturday night didn't help either - good thing it was only 3-4 hours!!??) LOL!!!

Had a wonderful time in your family's company - I hope I'm still a groupie when I'm as old as your Mom. I guess as long as Daryl Hall & Gerry & Dewey are around, I'll be one. Your brother, the Accountant was a total scream.

Yes, we "imbibed" more than usual Friday night but that Cabo Wabo went down sooooo smoothly - I prefer a shot to a margarita, however. Woke up Saturday with something of a headache but a few aspirins and a "hair of the dog" (appropriately named "Los Valientes") fixed us right up!

Had a WONDERFUL time with you guys and everyone else!! I'm probably going to Pittsburgh since that's the closest the Boys will be until probably next Spring. Live a little, drive a little - BE THERE!!!

Thanks for the fun - tell the accountant I said "Hi"!!

Here's me

Always remember - "If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space!!"

Chris - Cleveland

Message: 8418 Posted: Tue Oct 05 13:40:14 1999 By: Indigoglow
Subject: to CJ & Tres'

hope you guys made it home ok.I see the boys are playing somewhere in Pittsburgh soon.Are You going? Got the pics back from AC,You two looked like You were feeling no pain.Talk to You later.

Message: 8417 Posted: Tue Oct 05 13:02:58 1999 By: Brandon Rose
Subject: Nothing Personal

Indiglow & FP... Thanks for your understanding responses. Indiglow, thanks for the support regrding my post, "Greeting Cards?" FP, nothing personal was meant by my post. Hey, friends are terrific. I have two of the best friends anyone could hope for. I just hope that I am as good a friend to them! Anyway, my point was that this is the America Fans Chat Folder. So let's carry on with the business at hand, talking about the greatest music makers in the whole damn world... Dewey Bunnell & Gerry Beckley! Don't you have any America stuff to share with the rest of us?


Message: 8416 Posted: Tue Oct 05 11:00:30 1999 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Beach Boys/America Cover

Robyn, point well taken about seeing only a fraction of what the BBs were. However, some people, their voices, stage presence, etc. age, to use an old cliche, like a fine wine. Others....

Message: 8415 Posted: Tue Oct 05 10:29:51 1999 By: Howard Lieboff
Subject: Beach Boys/America

I personally would like to hear Gerry & Dewey
sing "Surfer Girl", (or In My Room or Girls On The Beach or...)

I saw the Beach Boys back in 1976 at Madison Square Garden,
along with Chicago on the same bill. Great SHOW! For encore,
both bands came out and did "Jumpin' Jack Flash!"

hista hatca olderfa etsga eirderwa yba heta ayda.

bye for now, hl

Message: 8414 Posted: Tue Oct 05 10:06:17 1999 By: FP
Subject: friends

********Direct hit from Brandon Rose********

you're right, maybe my posts are annoying, inappropriate and (gasp) sappy

One more for the road....

To say that a man is your Friend, means commonly no more than this, that he is not your enemy. Most contemplate only what would be the accidental and trifling advantages of Friendship, as that the Friend can assist in time of need by his substance,his influence, or his counsel....Even the utmost goodwill and harmony and practical kindness are not sufficient for Friendship, for Friends do not live in harmony merely, as some say, but in melody.

I cannot take credit for that one was written by Henry David Thoreau.

Thanks for your candidness BR, maybe I have been treading on Sacred Ground!!

Thanks also to those who have sent positive comments


Message: 8413 Posted: Tue Oct 05 09:42:29 1999 By: Indigoglow
Subject: RE:Greeting cards

I agree with Brandon 100%. Let's stick with America Chat.
All that other junk gets old.

Message: 8412 Posted: Tue Oct 05 08:19:14 1999 By: Brandon Rose
Subject: Greeting Cards?

I don't want to start a firestorm here... BUT... I thought this was the America Fans Chat Folder. What's up with all of the sappy-greeting cards-esque "Friends" posts? There plenty of electronic greeting cards sites for that stuff. I don't want anyone getting upset and remember... A friend will tell you what he's thinking.


Message: 8411 Posted: Tue Oct 05 06:01:08 1999 By: JoyceHall
Subject: Re: Beach Boys/America Cover

I LOVED the Beach Boy's. saw them in 94 & was fourtunate enought to meet & talk to Carl. classiest man, I've ever met to this day !! I think My all-time favorite song was/is "wouldn't it be nice". I can hear gerry & dewey singing that.......Love, JOYCE---P.S. maybe " I can hear music" too ??

Message: 8410 Posted: Tue Oct 05 02:02:19 1999 By: Brad
Subject: Re: America/Beach Boys

Dan Peek covered a Brian Wilson tune on his Crossover Album I Know Theres An Answer,from the Pet Sounds era

Message: 8409 Posted: Tue Oct 05 00:17:43 1999 By: Erin
Subject: Re: America/Beach Boys

My favorite Beach Boys song has always been "Wouldn't It Be Nice." I remember listening to that one when I was little. We'd always play it on our camping trips. I'd love to hear them do that one...Hope everyone is having a nice night!

Erin :o)

Message: 8408 Posted: Mon Oct 04 23:43:28 1999 By: EDDY
Subject: Re: America/Beach Boys

God Only Knows, Good Vibrations, Caroline No, 'Til I die, Do it Again,Wouldn't it be nice.
I'm sure there are more I would like to see America cover, these were just at the top of my head. PET SOUNDS RULES!!

Message: 8407 Posted: Mon Oct 04 20:54:26 1999 By: FP
Subject: friends

Stress in your family life and in your job can can put strain on a friendship as well. Remember who it was that stayed with you during the bad times, for they are very special friends. Stay with them when the times turn better because they make excellent fair weather as well.


Message: 8406 Posted: Mon Oct 04 20:25:37 1999 By: Beech
Subject: Re: America / Beach Boys

You know what "gets" me? They are STILL out there plugging away with not a Wilson amoung them. Thats just sad. They should just PACK it IN while they can. I likeD them in the past, but w/o CARL,,,,,,,,it's just too much of a loss.......sigh. Oh, well. Sorry if I offended...just my opinion

Message: 8405 Posted: Mon Oct 04 20:20:42 1999 By: Beech
Subject: Re: Beach Boys/America Cover-yMr.B

Um, MATT? Do I detect a pattern to your posts lately? First Christine now those cheerleaders......rofl

Message: 8404 Posted: Mon Oct 04 20:16:03 1999 By: Beech
Subject: re: party pooper

BASEBALL? I don't NEED NO STINKING BASEBALL.....roflmho.......Go Tigers...... (c;

Message: 8403 Posted: Mon Oct 04 19:26:55 1999 By: Indigoglow
Subject: Re:CJ in AC

Yes CJ I was one of the 4 guys and groupie mom from NJ
It was a great show.Evidently there are alot of jealous America fans out there. HA HA. We really saw something special Friday night
"All My Life" RULES.

See Ya


Message: 8402 Posted: Mon Oct 04 19:03:21 1999 By: Maureen
Subject: for CJ

Hi CJ,
Hope you made it home OK. Please email because I don't have your
email address. OK.

Take Care.


Message: 8401 Posted: Mon Oct 04 18:56:50 1999 By: mBluLight
Subject: Re: Beach Boys/America Cover

i was rather fond of the beachboy cheerleaders...


Message: 8400 Posted: Mon Oct 04 18:39:41 1999 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Beach Boys/America Cover

John, the fact is that you saw only a shade of the former Beach Boys. Brian no longer tours and Dennis was dead by that time ( when I mentioned that the Beach Boys were still touring, to a friend who used to be a roadie for them, his response was "oh, c'mon! two and a half of them are dead.!" It amazes me that people have had such an adverse reaction to my question.

Message: 8399 Posted: Mon Oct 04 18:27:14 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: America / Beach Boys

I think you're right about the Beach Boys in concert.I think that their greatest contribution to music came from their studio work in the '60s, thanks to the awesome talent of Brian Wilson. Their live act? UGGHHHH !! Speaking of the Beach Boys, the late Carl Wilson and Bruce Johnston sang on my absolute, all-time 10000% favorite America song: HAT TRICK. Are you listening Dewey? Gerry? *hint hint hint !

Message: 8398 Posted: Mon Oct 04 18:07:06 1999 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: Beach Boys/America Cover

I'm not a Beach Boys fan either. I went to an outdoor concert about 4 years ago because America was opening for them. (america was superb as always). I stayed for about 20 minutes of the Beach Boys' set but couldn't endure it any longer. They sounded stale without much life to them. (The cheesey dancing girls on stage didn't add to the experience, either). To me, it really hit home how great America is and how fresh they can sound after 30 years of playing the same songs night after night.

Message: 8397 Posted: Mon Oct 04 17:28:33 1999 By: Cathy
Subject: Johnny: Happy Anniversary

Can you believe it was a year ago that we saw America in Albuquerque?! That sure was fun. Hope we can do that again in the near future!

Message: 8396 Posted: Mon Oct 04 16:01:10 1999 By: CJ
Subject: Re: Great show in AC

Would you be one of the "4 Guys & their Groupie Mom" from Jersey????

Message: 8395 Posted: Mon Oct 04 14:44:25 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: Beach Boys/America Cover

Not being much of a Beach Boys fan actually (although I saw them once in concert when I was in college), I'd choose, "God Only Knows". I think that's the name of the song.

Message: 8394 Posted: Mon Oct 04 12:22:30 1999 By: Robyn
Subject: This 'n' THat

RE Baseball. WHile I agree with Joe that Mickey Mantle, Joe Di MAggio and Babe Ruth were fantastic ballplayers, can we overlook the jerk factor that plagues the team? Billy Martin, Lou Pinella and the jerk to which all other jerks aspire, George Steinbrenner? As a loyal Dodger fan, I loathe the Yankees on GP! ;0) Good discussion, all!

Johnny, I think the cap Dan is wearing is an old time baseball type. He is wearing knickers. Brave man to have his picture taken for posterity in them!

"All My Life" live and unplugged. They just keep getting better and better! Full of nice surprizes! It will be a while till I can see them again. I suppose it would be too much to hope?

Food for thought. What BEACH BOYS song would you like to hear them do? I was lazing around the pool this weekend, thinking about the song "Warmth of the Sun" The beautiful harmonies on that one would be a natural. What do you all think?

Message: 8393 Posted: Mon Oct 04 09:04:54 1999 By: Indigoglow
Subject: Great show in AC

Hello everyone,Indigoglow is back on the scene.Sorry, I'm a little late with my concert review from Friday night, but here it is.The show was great,I got to hear three songs from Human Nature,specifically my favorite- WHEELS.But the highlight of the night came when we were all expecting the boys to come out for the grand finale-Horse, but instead Gerry came out on stage by himself,strapped on his guitar and did an AWESOME unplugged version of ALL MY LIFE. A special thanks should go out to Maureen who has Bugged Gerry for 5 years to play it and he finally treated her and the rest of us to it. Thanks Gerry. It was a legendary show and we were all lovin' it. It was great to meet all of my new America fans- Maureen,Chris, and Holly,we all had a very good time. I was hurtin on Saturday morning

The set List:

Ventura Highway
You can do Magic
Don't cross the River
Daisey Jane
Mirror to Mirror
Another Try
Three Roses
I Need You
Wednesday Morning
Wheels are Turning
Tin Man
Woman Tonight
Only in Your Heart
California Dreaming
Lonely People
The things we said Today(Beatles tune)
Never Be Lonely
Sister Golden Hair
All My Life
Horse with No Name

* 3 songs were on the list but crossed off(Moment to Moment,FAMT,Calif. Revisited)

See Ya later


Message: 8392 Posted: Mon Oct 04 09:04:14 1999 By: Tres'
Subject: Re: Atlantic City-Michelle

Thanks for your words of encouragement. I guess if I HAD to pick my fav. tune of all time - All My Life would be it....I was in AC for my b-day wknd (l0/6) and that was the perfect gift. Even got the opp. to thank Gerry - even tho' he had no clue he was giving me one! It was beautiful and it was a great treat. Glad to see others could possibly be as affected as I was. Speechless!

Message: 8391 Posted: Mon Oct 04 08:40:53 1999 By: Indigoglow
Subject: America in AC

Concert review coming up

Message: 8390 Posted: Mon Oct 04 01:04:16 1999 By: Joe Knight
Subject: Re:baseball

I want FP tp know that I am an Atlanta Braves fan......As a young kid growing up I idolized Babe Ruth(even though he was long dead) and Mickey Mantle , Roger Maris, Joe Dimagio,,the list goes on.... These Guys made baseball the great game it is...I dont like the Yankees of today though. Their owner stinks...............................
Thats just my opinion,,I could be wrong.........Joe K

Message: 8389 Posted: Sun Oct 03 20:46:11 1999 By: Michelle
Subject: Re: Atlantic City

Don't describe yourself as a "wuss" for showing a few tears...I imagine others of us would have done the same had we been lucky enough to be there.
"All My Life"...I spent many of my evenings as a teenager with tears in my eyes while listening to this song...there is no way I could have heard it live without those tears returning.
"There was a time
When I just thought that I would lose my mind..."

Message: 8388 Posted: Sun Oct 03 20:22:04 1999 By: FP
Subject: friends and baseball

Friends may sometimes ask for more than you give. If a friend denies a favor because he feels unconfortable with the idea do not take it as an insult, but try to understand where the difficulty lies.

a special note to Mr Knight: I agree that the Yankees are the "team of the century"--how can you argue with success. But they possibly are also the most hated team (Maybe the rest of us are jealous?). As for merchandising, it helps to be a large market team, but no one in this area would ever buy Yankee "stuff". Congratulations to the Yankees on their fine season. As far as the post season goes, I will cheer for anyone who plays vs the Yankees.


Message: 8387 Posted: Sun Oct 03 19:55:38 1999 By: ANDY

To those of you that got to hear Gerry sing "ALL MY LIFE", I just want you to know that I am SOOOOOOOO jealous !!!!!!!! That must have been a totally unbelievable treat !!!!!! I'll be going to the Mohegan Casino show on October 15. Is anyone else going to that one? If so, drop me an E-mail. See y'all there !!

Message: 8386 Posted: Sun Oct 03 18:24:47 1999 By: gary
Subject: America

Thanks to Robert, Maureen & Tres' for the Atlantic City reviews. That must have been awesome to hear "All My Life". I am heading out on Thursday to Boston for the Topsfield Fair Shows. If anybody else is going, shoot me an e-mail. Maybe we can meet up somewhere.

Gary H

Message: 8385 Posted: Sun Oct 03 16:17:37 1999 By: Tres'
Subject: Atlantic City

Atlantic City --- America --- SO rocked. They were awesome. All My Life - an incredible surprise (made me cry...wuss!) Maureen, Kelly, was SO wonderful to meet all of you! Thanx for being part of by b-day weekend...I am one lucky person. I had my best friend, my new friends, AMERICA, AND ... he sang All My Life-so cannot believe it. Hope everyone else enjoyed themselves even l/4 as much as we did. Thanx again to everyone! I am now a very tired puppy and going to take a power nap to face reality.

Message: 8384 Posted: Sun Oct 03 13:25:26 1999 By: Erin
Subject: Re: Atlantic City Shows

Wow...All My Life live. That must have been incredible!! I sure wish I could have been there for that one. Thanks for the review!

Erin :o)

Message: 8383 Posted: Sun Oct 03 12:19:52 1999 By: Maureen
Subject: For Kelly...

Hi Kelly,
It was great to finally meet you. You are a "super person".
Email me soon. OK.

Take Care for now. Maureen

Message: 8382 Posted: Sun Oct 03 12:16:12 1999 By: Maureen
Subject: Atlantic city

Hi All,
I, too, just got back from Atlantic City. The shows were fabulous !!
I am really very happy that I finally got to meet Holly, Chris and Kelly. You all are some of the nicest people I have meet.
Karen it was great seeing you again. My next show won't be for
two weeks, at the Mohegan Sun. Hope you all can go, too.

Bye for now.

Message: 8381 Posted: Sun Oct 03 12:03:40 1999 By: Robert Burgess
Subject: Atlantic City Shows

Hello Everyone!

I just got back from Atlantic City where I saw both the Friday and Saturday night concerts. They were both awesome, but on Friday night there was the rare treat of having Gerry sing a solo. As part of the encore Gerry came out with just his guitar and sang "All My Life" it was awesome. They did a 90 minuite set both nights that included "California Dreamin" ( I honestly think their version is the best I have ever heard,and I have always really liked that song). They did three songs from Human Nature. I tried to mingle with people at the concert and let them know about the Hall of Fame etc. It always amazes me that people tell me how much they love the band, but did not know that they had a new album out. Many people have asked me where they can get it. I think it would be a really good idea to sell the CD outside at every concert. The only concert where I did see the CD being sold was the July 3 Bowie, Maryland show.

Anyway an added highlight for me was I got to meet Gerry Beckley. I was on the boardwalk in Atlantic City at about 1:00 in the afternoon and I saw him walking down the boardwalk and I knew I had to seize the moment so I just walked up to him, shook his hand and told him what a great show it was on Friday night and that I was looking forward to Saturday night's show as well. Fortunatly, I had on my America T-shirt, Gerry said, "I like your shirt". It was a great moment. I have admired him for twenty five years so this was truly a dream come true for me.

I look forward to the Patriot Centre show in Virginia later this month.

Robert Burgess

Message: 8380 Posted: Sun Oct 03 00:23:44 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: re: HUMAN NATURE

That Ian Samwell interview that Scott West did on the Web site is fascinating, I can't wait for part II. Great timing w/the announcement of HUMAN NATURE as Pop LP of the year. Two interesting ends of the spectrum w/Ian who was involved w/LP #1 & AMERICA's smashing debut & then on the other hand AMERICA's latest effort some 27 years later. GO AMERICA 2000 !!

Message: 8379 Posted: Sat Oct 02 23:43:49 1999 By: Joe Knight
Subject: baseball

Sorry guys about the double post. I hit the wrong button, and I wasn't finished. As I said the Yankees are the team of the century.
Atlanta is the team of the 90s.....................................
also in mdse sales the Yankees are #1 and the Braves are #2 in America

Message: 8378 Posted: Sat Oct 02 23:38:50 1999 By: Joe Knight
Subject: baseball

Baseball team of the century has to go to the Yankees. Team of the 90s

Message: 8377 Posted: Sat Oct 02 23:38:47 1999 By: Joe Knight
Subject: baseball

Baseball team of the century has to go to the Yankees. Team of the 90s

Message: 8376 Posted: Sat Oct 02 23:35:41 1999 By: Joe Knight
Subject: hit it

I believe Dewey says "hit it" in "Lonely People"......
Got my tickets for the Fairfax Va. show. This will be my 4th show this year.......America rules Joe K

Message: 8375 Posted: Sat Oct 02 22:49:26 1999 By: Indigoglow
Subject: Heloo

Hello everybody

Message: 8374 Posted: Sat Oct 02 14:48:06 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: My Trivia Answer To Baseball and America

Andy, your selection of "Harbor" as the connection to baseball wasn't what I had in mind. That's a great answer, though! I hadn't thought of that. Robyn, you were thinking along the same line as me with Dan holding a baseball bat on the "Holiday" album cover and sleeve. I didn't know (or think) Dan was wearing a baseball outfit. I'll have to check it out again. I know this is a big stretch...there's two songs on "Holiday" that have the word "hit" or "hits" (a baseball term, right). In the song, "Lonely People", Dan says, "HIT it". In "What Does It Matter", Gerry says, "Great HITS of the 60's". I told you it was a big s-t-r-e-t-c-h!

Way to go Andy and Robyn!

Message: 8373 Posted: Sat Oct 02 13:00:10 1999 By: FP
Subject: friends

Lori (and all):

I never really stopped and thought about it; my comments may be inapproprite to some.
After all, a friends do not push theirselves where they do not belong. :)

So far no negative comments. I hope I have not offended anyone so far!

I hope to post more in the future!


Message: 8372 Posted: Sat Oct 02 10:49:58 1999 By: Lori York
Subject: re: HUMAN NATURE

Ditto! I'll be there! - I guess it is safe to assume it will be reading material (?) You got me all excited now. Have a great Saturday everyone!

Message: 8371 Posted: Sat Oct 02 10:24:22 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: re: HUMAN NATURE

Along w/naming HUMAN NATURE the Pop LP of the year, has an interview w/Ian Samwell, in 2 parts; A very revealing interview about the 1st steps for AMERICA into the national spotlight & consciousness of the planet Earth. Also w/some fotos that never widely published. I can't wait to see Scott West's work. Included is the explanation of the 3 Indians in the background of LP #1. AMERICA's lifetime tour continues, see them live.

Message: 8370 Posted: Sat Oct 02 07:08:01 1999 By: Lori York
Subject: Re: friends

A little apprehensive about responding to you FP because I don't know how everyone else feels about your comments, but I feel the need to say that it is nice to hear a few words about friendship from someone who understands.

Also, I think your posts are very appropriate and goes with "America" pretty well.

Message: 8369 Posted: Fri Oct 01 21:57:23 1999 By: jimnak
Subject: re: HUMAN NATURE

HUMAN NATURE gains the recognition that it so rightly deserves. Thanks Rock&, a very heavily traveled Web ( site for music fans. A portal to meet all your music needs. AMERICA playing some domestics shows b/4 going overseas for the year end of 1999. The HUMAN NATURE CD is the best !

Message: 8368 Posted: Fri Oct 01 21:46:07 1999 By: FP
Subject: friends

Be careful of the words you choose when you speak in anger, for these words are often spoken out of frustration, and are not indicative of how you truly feel. yet, despite their "lack of sincerity", words spoken in anger are among the most difficult to "take back" especially when the reality sets in and you realize you did not mean the message that was sent. At this stage one can only hope that he has a friend that is willing to discuss and (hopefully, in the end) forgive. Be careful of what you say when you think no one else is listening for words carry farther than we think, and misunderstandings may occur.


Message: 8367 Posted: Fri Oct 01 19:28:18 1999 By: JoyceHall
Subject: Re: ...something to do this weekend in San Diego...

Hello, just wanted to say that I am living in Ocean Beach & I am in walking distance to Dusty Rhodes park, I will definatly be their !! I love live music & if you guy's say he is good ! I'm their !!--:)--Hope to run across a few of you??-You can't miss my red hair !!--Peace, Joyce

Message: 8366 Posted: Fri Oct 01 18:06:16 1999 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: answer to baseball trivia from Johnny

RIGHT YOU are. They ARE at Anaheim Stadium, the big A ( I know it's called something elese now, like calling Candlestick 3-Com Park, the name will never stick.

I thought of the cover of Holiday, Dan is in old fashioned baseball togs.

Good Q as usual, Johnny.

Message: 8365 Posted: Fri Oct 01 17:37:50 1999 By: ANDY
Subject: answer to baseball trivia from Johnny

My only guess would be the Harbor album, since he LP version came with a poster of the boys at a baseball stadium in July, 1976. If that's not it, then I'm clueless.

Message: 8364 Posted: Fri Oct 01 16:54:50 1999 By: ANDY

O.k. So, if the Yankees win two more world series titles, would that make it a HAT TRICK? Ugghh !! Just the thought of it is enough to give me a HANGOVER !!!

Message: 8363 Posted: Fri Oct 01 16:52:25 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: Yeah, The Anaheim Angels

Yeah, that's right, Robyn. It is the Anaheim Angels. I would have asked Shari (Steve's sister) but she's gone for the day and so am I!

Message: 8362 Posted: Fri Oct 01 16:49:09 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: America/Baseball Triv Question

Friday trivia question time! Name the America LP that has a connection to baseball and tell us the connection? Boy, that's a broad question, isn't it? I'll give/confirm the answer tomorrow. In the meantime, "You're Out!" Rather, I'm out. Outta here, that is. Hope everyone has a great weekend.

Message: 8361 Posted: Fri Oct 01 16:44:16 1999 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Baseball and My Co-Worker

Acually Johnny, both are teams with lousy records, but Steve Sparks plays for the Anaheim Angels. The team is currently owned by Disney but they are trying six ways from Sunday to drop them. Their record? They make the Dodgers look like World Series Material!

Message: 8360 Posted: Fri Oct 01 16:30:26 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: Baseball and My Co-Worker

My co-worker's brother pitches for one of the California majors. I'm not a baseball fan so I'm not sure of the team's name. Is there an Oakland A's team or an Angels? Anyway, he's with the team in CA that has the worst record. I think she said the team's manager was recently let go. Her maiden name is Sparks. I think her brother's name is Steve. He holds the record for hitting the most batters with the ball!!

Message: 8359 Posted: Fri Oct 01 16:06:21 1999 By: gary
Subject: America's Team

Pete, Pete, Pete!!

Everybody knows that the Houston Astros are America's Baseball Team!

Message: 8358 Posted: Fri Oct 01 16:06:13 1999 By: Robyn
Subject: re: baseball

Yes, Janice, evnt though I am in CALIFORNIA DREAMIN' of another Dodger penant race, It is good to know I am in good COOMPANY, not in this dream WORLD ALONE. Hey, DON'T LET IT GET YOU DOWN.

Message: 8357 Posted: Fri Oct 01 16:00:37 1999 By: Robyn
Subject: Re: Baseball Talk

Hit... Single... lol. It'd be a GRAND SLAM!

Message: 8356 Posted: Fri Oct 01 15:41:36 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re: baseball

Oh..I get it..ok then..HERE is what I think of that..I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU wanting to keep us on track, but I NEED YOU to understand that some of us get excited about AMERICA'S favorite pasttime..all Robyn and I were saying is that we hope that the Dodgers will give it ANOTHER TRY next year because right now they have a VIEW FROM THE GROUND and we would just like them to EVEN THE SCORE someday. GOODBYE. :)

Message: 8355 Posted: Fri Oct 01 15:02:01 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: Baseball Talk

Okay Janice, if the topic's baseball, I'll say this: If "Wednesday Morning" or "Wheels Are Turning" were ever released as a single, I think it would be a HOME RUN for our favorite team! Go Team Go!! Go Team Go!!

Message: 8354 Posted: Fri Oct 01 14:29:17 1999 By: John Lussier
Subject: Re: ...something to do this weekend in San Diego...

I certainly agree with good 'ol Mr. Leaky. Anyone in San Diego should make the effort to check out Michael Tomlinson. I have 5 or 6 of his cds. All excellent. He also lists America as one his greatest influences. Haven't had the opportunity to see him live but he has some great tunes and quite an enjoyable website.

Message: 8353 Posted: Fri Oct 01 12:50:56 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re: Love's Last Gift

No No Johnny..we're talking baseball now, no changing the remember last year somebody said "Can we have a post that does not deal with baseball" can tell it's playoff time..the America/Baseball fans come out of the woodwork. Ronnie is in the midst of his first t-ball season..have a great pic of Mom (me) and Ronnie on the soon as I figure out how to use my scanner I'll post it..I know..I anyone is interested in seeing it! Pete..New York Yankees..America's team..hhrruummpphh..

Message: 8352 Posted: Fri Oct 01 12:31:39 1999 By: Leakycanoe
Subject: ...something to do this weekend in San Diego... always I have a post that has nothing to do with the recent folder topics...but I always like to share good music with fellow America fans...just wanted to inform those fans in the San Diego area that Michael Tomlinson will be playing on Sunday October 3rd at "Dusty Rhodes Park" in Ocean Beach. He is appearing as part of the San Diego Fall Fest " a celebration of food, health, music, and the enviro. He is do to play for one hour around 5pm. It's a free concert...( a great weekend and long live America....

Message: 8351 Posted: Fri Oct 01 12:26:57 1999 By: Robyn
Subject: re: party pooper

Like all good baseball fans, I say Wait till next year! ( Go Dodger Blue)

Message: 8350 Posted: Fri Oct 01 10:05:43 1999 By: Johnny
Subject: "Loves Last Gift..."

With the last couple of postings in mind and knowing this has nothing to do with this chat folder either, I thought I would pass along a wonderful phrase that I just recently heard. I feel weird posting it, but I really like it and I think it's quite profound. It's this: "Loves Last Gift Is Remembrance."

Okay, back to the topic of America!

Message: 8349 Posted: Fri Oct 01 09:47:59 1999 By: Pete
Subject: America's team

Go for America's team, the New York Yankees.

Message: 8348 Posted: Fri Oct 01 09:37:12 1999 By: Janice
Subject: re: party pooper

Right, Kevin..any team but the Braves!..(of course my first preference would have been the Dodgers..otherwise known as the Cellar-Dwellars)..sigh..right Robyn??

[September] [November]
Last Revised: 18 March 2000